Hmm
#beta-ptr-spoilers
urban dew
grizzled sleet
They will fight each other
urban dew
We see Aysa at the Alliance embassy, while Ji sits in a corner
grizzled sleet
Battle for Azeroth 8.4 Battle for Pandaria
urban dew
They could recruit their respective Jinyu and perhaps Mogu
Er
I worded that wrong
Aysa could recruit the Jinyu while Ji recruits the Mogu
hollow dock
Aysa is meditating on a ship
Ji is in a trance on another ship
Thats their extent of existence.
urban dew
I'll be honest, I don't see hozen being playable
grizzled sleet
Not everyone in the embassy will recruit an allied race
urban dew
We don't know that for sure
tulip sun
So far it is looking like it
urban dew
So far, people in the embassies have had some sort of tie to allied races
grizzled sleet
embassy = reunion of people representing each race
tulip sun
Liadrin, Baine, now Eitrigg
Moira, Turalyon and Alleria
It is kinda pointing to doing stuff
I like the part in before the storm where the huojin perform a reenactment or whatever, lol
Is there a part where they join the parade? Anyone know?
grizzled sleet
Who will recruit sethrak from the embassy?
urban dew
Not sure yet
I'd have to look at who's in there
But it could be not all allied races are tied to the embassy just as you said
We really don't know
urban dew
If we're going by respective skeletons, Genn will recruit the Sethrak while Gallywix recruits the Vulpera
I have absolutely no idea on how that'd work
But I'm certain it would be hilarious
tulip sun
I dont think that matters
Liadrin gets nightborne
A human gets lightforged
So i dont think skeletons mean anything
tulip sun
I feel like Nisha and Ji might get along, lol
urban dew
Don't tell me you guys don't think that'd be hilarious
tulip sun
I lioe Gallywix nowadays
But doubt it
I really want Ji and Aysa yo be more involved, even just a short questline
urban dew
That's why I think Aysa recruits Jinyu while Ji recruits Mogu
urban dew
Jinyu appear in Boralus
terse patrol
when the heck are death knights getting spec colored eyes
tulip sun
Amd hozen are in the horde vanguard
urban dew
And Mogu were actually mentioned during an interview where a Dev mentions them when referring to allied races
Let me see if I can dig through my youtube history to find it
This might take a while
urban dew
GOT IT
Notice how he brings up the Mogu, then the DID, then mentions all ARs in particular
Don't tell me that doesn't seem fishy
dense plover
the mogu thing was an accident
he meant zandalari
but was talking about islands
the one they were talking about had mogu on it
brain works through association
accidents like that happen all the time
mogu allied race wont happen
they are not good guys
urban dew
I don't hear anything mentioning islands in there
rich apex
I mean Zandalari were bad guys until we met good ones
dense plover
no
urban dew
And who says that there can't be good Mogu?
tulip sun
My thoughts that mogu still work with zandalari after zul is dead were wrong too
urban dew
We don't know what happened after Ra-den left
dense plover
zul and his buddies arent
rich apex
Ehh
tulip sun
Apparently the alliance quests take place way before horde
dense plover
thats it
tulip sun
I dont understand why
dense plover
why the mogu work for zul?
urban dew
Not sure what the timeline is, I just know that the Alliance makes first contact with the Sethrak
dense plover
alliance zone quests dont all occur first
theres an order
alliance war campaign in voldun takes place before horde get there, but not the other two
tulip sun
Does the war campaign occur as you level?
dense plover
yes
tulip sun
There is a final quest in the war campaign where you kill mogu and zandalari
dense plover
yeah
tulip sun
And destroy ships
dense plover
there are still evil mogu at that point
urban dew
Also, there's a pretty big difference between the names Mogu and Zandalari. It can't be compared to the Blood Troll slip
dense plover
there are horde world quests dealing with the mogu too
zealous basalt
stoned cats
urban dew
Yes
zealous basalt
hahaaa
tulip sun
Hmm
urban dew
There is Mogu presence on Zandalar
tulip sun
I mean, maybe eventually
dense plover
we try to push it back, but they are working for zul and the zanchuli council who are working for ghuun
mogu wont be done until ghuun is
the mogu seek power
tulip sun
I just find it weird that the alliqnce would attack enemy ships of the zandalari
tulip sun
Instead of what remains of the zandalarinones
urban dew
Still leaves the possibility of Mogu happening later
dense plover
how would the alliance know the difference between mogu zandalari ships and allied ones?
they wouldnt
they dont know the mogu are the enemy of the zandalari that arent working for zul
they werent there to learn that
they just see mogu and zandalari together
and assume the horde is doing that because the horde is working with zandalar
essentially doing the horde and rastakhan a favor
tulip sun
I dlhave to admit playing a mogu would be funnas hell
urban dew
They do have male/female models
Something that the Hozen lack
The also use the Draenei skeleton
tulip sun
I think a reason female appear more could be created
urban dew
Yeah
Apparently the only 2 were the Twin Consorts boss from ToT
But there's actually another Mogu female that appears in Shado-pan brawl
Which means that those weren't the only 2
Jinyu actually lack a female model too
tulip sun
I love the way they look
Each faction could even get a uhh
Titan forged race
Idk how mogu look with flesh
urban dew
Do I see Arakkoa there?
tulip sun
Thinknthat is the website name
urban dew
Oh
tulip sun
I would totally make a mogu character
tulip sun
Now i really want mogu
urban dew
I'm telling you, they seem like they'll happen
tulip sun
Perhaps
steel venture
There are no flesh mogu.
They're famous for reversing the Curse of Flesh via their use of anima.
zealous basalt
aka bs boss in 25h
urban dew
Are you referring to the Dark Anima boss?
steel venture
No as in:
Literally there's no flesh mogu.
That's a major part of their lore.
Lei-Shen discovered he could revert the curse via using Anima.
urban dew
Was asking Makore
urban dew
Who says that the Mogu AR has to be flesh though?
tulip sun
No one
steel venture
Nobody, I'm just slightly correcting the mistake on the flesh comment. o/
tulip sun
But i can jear alliancr complaining anout horde getting a titan forged race
steel venture
Like it's just literally impossible to have squishy mogu.
steel venture
hides my mogu in the closet.
urban dew
Maybe Alliance get's mechagnomes?
Then both have titan-forged races
Ones just cooler than the other
tulip sun
Oooohhh, why cant this happej now
urban dew
Welcome to my pain with Sethrak and Arakkoa
urban dew
Welcome to my world of pain
tulip sun
Birbsnek, do you have before the storm?
tulip sun
I wanna know if the huojin and ji were in that parade, if so, sylvanas' thoughts on them
Leaks only show the tauren and blood.elves
urban dew
Ji and the Huojin seem to be forgotten a lot
A shame
Since I think he could do some stupid but incredible things with the Horde
tulip sun
Wowhead said he was not at the parade or feast, as he was far away
His followers participated in the feast though
Not.wowhead
Wowpedia
At least they appear somewhat
urban dew
Yeah
tulip sun
I like how in the books, the height of the tauren are really shown
urban dew
Yeah, the Tauren are huge
tulip sun
Even on horseback
urban dew
I think Ogres are slightly smaller than them
tulip sun
Sylvanas just reaches Baine's eyes
Ogres can vary from what i understand
Frim same. Short or taller
The horde truly have some of the stronger races
urban dew
Yeah, the Horde has far more physical strength
But the Alliance shouldn't be underestimated
They got the best smiths and crafters
rich apex
Saurfang: i must face my enemies in a fair fight with honor
Saurfang: lifts up an axe the size of an average human
urban dew
I'd be surprised if they cared for the Horde at all
Yeah
That's where I aim on them going
tulip sun
Hmmm
urban dew
MU Horde treated them horrendously. AU Iron Horde tried to push into their territory.
With Mag'har joining the Horde, it wouldn't surprise me if the Arakkoa avoid them like the plague.
I got a thread link for the idea if you guys want to check out what I and others have worked on so far
tulip sun
I cant help but think Yrel and her light fanatics are trying to convert them as well
urban dew
Either convert or kill
Not all Arakkoa worship the sun
Half of them worship the sun, the other half worship the shadows.
tulip sun
I wanna know about all the other races as well, lol
urban dew
But we have no knowledge of the Saberon, any remaining Ogres, and especially the Arakkoa
terse patrol
So, we can assume the rest of the Orcs now follow the Light, along with the Ogres and Arakkoa.
urban dew
Arakkoa don't follow that light
urban dew
Probably
There was an Ogre continent planned for WoD
But like many other things, it was scrapped
A shame how WoD turned out
Could've been an amazing expansion
I believe that there were rumors of Arakkoa and Ogres becoming new races too
tulip sun
I wouldnt mind having Moknathal like Rexxar
urban dew
I still think they might be stowed away waiting for something like the allied race system
Yeah, Mok'nathal would be pretty cool, but their numbers are small and they isolate themselves
Rexxar is the only exception to them
tulip sun
Seeing his new model and him in action...
inner sonnet
small numbers argument doesn't really hold up since then let void elves be an allied race
tulip sun
I also dont see why theyd put that much work into a model for him, and make it so his unique gear comes off.
karmic copper
Were there any Mok'nathal in AU Draenor (I know rexxar was there)
karmic copper
yea
urban dew
Either way, Horde lost their means to travel back to AU Draenor after the events of the Mag'har recruitment
karmic copper
Also I wonder if the AU clans have new warchief's for them, or its just Grom.
urban dew
I think it was just Grom as the warchief
That obviously changes after the scenario, but during it, yeah
karmic copper
Grom dies right?
urban dew
Yeah
tulip sun
Well
urban dew
He holds Yrel and the Lightbound off as the Horde champion flees with the other Mag'har
karmic copper
That sucks, really wanted to take him into the normal universe and show him outland and orgrimmar
urban dew
Would be a hell of a twist for Yrel to somehow forcefully convert him
He seems more likely to die fighting
urban dew
Yeah, not sure what happens to those who stay behind
Supposedly the full force of the light crusade is at their door step
And although I know Orcs are tough, against a light imbued army, good luck.
karmic copper
I dont really like the scenario, I'd rather have it be that we went to AU Draenor with for some reason AU Krom'gar (Still being like the normal Krom'gar, evil and uncaring for citizens) and the Draenei were friendly with the Mag'hat, and they could use Faralohn, and after killing the evil guy there, we go back and Grom watches as Krom'gar almost drops a bomb on Shattrath, but then Grom takes him by the neck and throws him into the water, being eaten by a shark.
Might be a little weird, but I' like to see Faralohn actually used.
urban dew
Yeah, it's a shame so much was cut
But I don't despise the scenario
After all, it could mean playable Arakkoa
urban dew
But not an Arakkoa
karmic copper
A birdtroll
urban dew
Just because it uses the same skeleton doesn't mean that the Arakkoa are out
In fact, I think that helps since they got a model ready for use
For players
tulip sun
We are still missing some druid forms
tulip sun
They dont have one yet, lol
karmic copper
Oh
Well I hope its gonna be a mini version of one of those dinosaur sea monsters
Ya know the ones that look like the loch ness monster
tulip sun
Ya
tropic trail
I hope Zandalari Trolls get different skin tones for their travel forms
like KT Humans
urban dew
Honestly, Arakkoa could work as druids as well
Have you boys ever heard of an Owlbear?
tropic trail
Absolutely! Just as Vrykul can be shamans
Please blizz
Runestone Totems wont leave my mind
urban dew
Yeah
That'd be terrifying
And we already got owlcats in the game
God, I can tell it's just me being beyond hopeful, but it really seems like Blizz is setting up Arakkoa
tropic trail
I wouldnt be so certain
I have been waiting years for playable vrykul
and so far we have walking pandarens and possibly whatever the hell vulpera are
urban dew
It's just, no matter how I see it, so many things line up for Arakkoa to come in
urban dew
Draenor is in trouble, we got both Light and Shadow on Alliance, we have a means to get there
tropic trail
I love my zandalari trolls
and the dinoforms 👌
Oh and the Dark Iron Dwarves, I was so happy when the shaman totems were datamined
Firstly, because that confirmed Dark Iron Shamans
and secondly, because they're so badass
tropic trail
If we should get DI Dwarves and Zandalari Trolls, I see no reason for Arakkoa to not be added.
urban dew
They're about as requested as other major races
tropic trail
Actually, I know this is a little odd, but I think Arakkoa and Naga should both be added. Since no more neutral races apparently.
I wouldn't know which factions to place them.
urban dew
If Arakkoa were to be added, Ogres are the perfect pair to go with them
tropic trail
That's true, but Naga have been highly requested for a very long time.
I'm going to go ahead and say more than Ogres.
karmic copper
I'd like Ogres too
tropic trail
Plus, they're probably going to be important to the story.
Perhaps they will leave Azshara and join the Horde or Alliance.
urban dew
Issue is that they follow N'Zoth and Azshara
karmic copper
Maybe with 2 heads, you'd be able to have first head piece on the 1st head and none on the second head
urban dew
And they've committed atrocities to both sides.
tropic trail
True but we have death knights, don't we? 😉
urban dew
But we only lived because of Tirion's good heart
Who would dare stick up for the Naga?
urban dew
I don't think the blood elves would
tropic trail
Blood Elves are really into "forgiveness" and shit.
Im sure they'd find it in their hearts to forgive the naga
urban dew
I don't know
They went against Kael'thas and his allies
That includes the Naga
I mean, after 8.1, we'll see
Since 8.1 is Azshara
urban dew
There's just a lot of difficulties that surround them, both lore and gameplay wise
tropic trail
I know the other two did, but I'm not sure about the naga
urban dew
Not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised
After all, Sargeras is locked away
Meaning the biggest threat to N'Zoth is gone
tropic trail
To be fair the Naga had noble intentions when working with Illidan
urban dew
Which means that the Naga have no more need to ally with Illidan
tropic trail
even under the influence of N'Zoth
My memory is a little blurry but...
didn't the naga save Tyrande?
I remember something about her floating down a river
urban dew
Uh, no
That was not the Naga at all
I'm pretty sure that was Illidan
After Maiev almost let Tyrande die
tranquil steeple
Illidan, with the aid of the Naga IIRC from the WC3 mission
tropic trail
Yeah! That's it
I can't say that'd give them reason alone to join the Alliance, but it helps.
tranquil steeple
Which was what got him the 'get out of jail for free' card from Tyrande and Malfurion... but not Maiev
urban dew
Hmm
tropic trail
It's coming back to me, thanks.
urban dew
Those Naga would be loyal to the Illidari though, not any faction
tropic trail
Old stuff like that is always hard to remember
tranquil steeple
Honestly, I see the Nagas joining the Illidari more than anything, if they defect after the Azshara raid
urban dew
Same
tropic trail
IDK if that would support them becoming playable
tranquil steeple
And being there to help the Horde and Alliance against similar threats like the Burning Legion, but not on as big of a scale as the Burning Legion itself, of course
For example giving us a hand with underwater areas
urban dew
I still think that Naga just have too many gameplay issues to become playable
tropic trail
But Sethrak should?
urban dew
Sethrak don't have the issue of no legs
tropic trail
Why can't naga just wear skirts all the time?
urban dew
I don't like shutting down any allied races, but I try to keep a realistic view on them
Mounting still has an issue
tranquil steeple
Mounting could be done similarly as Worgen, if anything.
urban dew
Do you mean racial mount?
tranquil steeple
But I honestly see Nagas as an on-demand ally against enemies
tropic trail
urban dew
Nothing wrong hoping for Naga, in fact I want to be proven wrong, but I just don't know how they'd work
tropic trail
Well shoes wont appear on them
pants will be a skirt with some designs to make it look better
kind of like how pandaren have the tail ring
and the toe rings
tranquil steeple
Well... let's point out one kinda major thing with Nagas: animations.
How are we going to have all our current animations work on them?
urban dew
They'd look silly as monks
tropic trail
so dont make them monks?
urban dew
Was just thinking of what a Naga trying to do a Blackout kick would look like
Don't tell me that doesn't sound hilarious to imagine
tropic trail
Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Priest, Mage, Maybe Warlock, Maybe Shaman, and Maybe Demon Hunter
Kicks will be replaced with a tail slap
tranquil steeple
With all current player animations, I can really only see caster classes, and Hunter, for nagas
unless they do a MAJOR overhaul of the model(s)
tropic trail
Last legit race was in Pandaria
a lot has changed then
Sure, naga would be a pain compared to other possible races
but hey, it's highly requested
or maybe they'd do what they did with Azshara and give them a lot of tentacles to act as feet
oops wrong pic
other tentacles will act as "tails?"
and two of em' will act as feet
mint arch
naga is very unlikely to happen
its gonna be A LOT of extra work for blizzard to make a non-humanoid model work with old models and such
and then new models need to be made specifically for the naga model
aint worth it really~
viscid bobcat
anyone know what the update did today?
tropic trail
I suggest races and get shit for it
if I say anything about races y'all suggest
well I still get shit for it
even get shit for Vrykul Shamans
urban dew
Calm down, I didn't say anything was wrong with Vrykul shamans
mint arch
lol
mint arch
what u getting triggered for?
tropic trail
No, just sayin
Get a wave of hate for disagreeing about KT Druids and Playable Sethrak
but what I suggest, well I still get hate
y'know?
urban dew
Alright, I'm heading to sleep. See ya guys later.
sour burrow
@viscid bobcat Removed the bug reporter thing. >_> I disagree with this action, lol.
viscid bobcat
Oh really??? Why would they do that? lol
verbal badger
gonna go with by mistake
tropic trail
Something tells me people can't take criticism. :^)
strange falcon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/419964105940795404/461088220210528256/WoWScrnShot_062618_033638.jpg chilling in boralus (pickpocket glyph btw)
hollow dock
I didnt even give shit about Vrykul shaman. I said, and I quote, "I dont recall the vrykul being shamans at all", "why would the elements care about the vrykul", "can you show me anything that shows they have shamanism". We then spoke about the runescribers and how they enslaved elementals and this proves them to be shamans. I then called out this bullshit by showing another example of non-shamans enslaving elementals, Mages. Then proceeded to mock the concept that enslaving an elemental made you a shaman
And after all that someone actually showed proof of some dungeon npcs using shaman spells
ruby star
Does anyone know why they removed the report a bug area on beta?
vagrant granite
Was wondering about that as well
verbal badger
probably not intentionally
mint arch
no one knows, though it most likely a mistake or someting
hollow dock
it's unintentional most likely and will most likely be back in the next build
runic verge
I wrote up an extensive review on the dps specs, regarding questing and leveling https://old.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/8txpe6/bfa_dps_spec_review_gameplay_and_overall_feel_not/
keep in mind that's purely subjective though, as any gameplay review
uncut vault
Definitely subjective, demo is a community favorite atm
hollow dock
to be fair, it's based on leveling and even in BFA, DEmo leveling is pretty low on the spectrum
urban dew
The birbsnek is here!
tulip sun
Wooohoo
I know it is pretty much impossible. But i cant help but imagine how neat it would be to be a tortollan
hollow dock
I think Id get tired of it pretty fast tbh
urban dew
They're cranky old guys that like artifacts
hollow dock
I like my artifact and am not a cranky old guy =C
restive sage
😦
urban dew
Tortollan personalities seem fun, but their model presents a multitude of issues.
hollow dock
Yea. But aside from the technical difficulties
urban dew
I honestly think Pandaren and Tortollans would make great friends.
urban dew
I can just imagine Lorewalker Cho relaxing drinking tea with one of them.
urban dew
Not saying Tortollans will be playable, I'm just imagining interactions.
terse patrol
Blizzard doesn’t want to have a repeat of Pandaren.
hollow dock
I can see Cho doin that with everyone
terse patrol
They’re the least played race of all WoW.
hollow dock
Thats just how cho is
uncut vault
Well, combined they aren’t. But as individual factions they are
terse patrol
So, introducing another light hearted race just won’t be a thing.
hollow dock
Honk: Fourth tine. Ignoring the technical side of it.
terse patrol
I’m not ignoring shit.
hollow dock
We are. We're just musing the ideas behind them on the world scene.
terse patrol
People keep putting Tortollans forwards despite the fact it’d be a pain in the ass to make them a dynamic model.
urban dew
We're just thinking of their interactions with the world.
terse patrol
they look like rejects from the Dinosaurs sitcom.
hollow dock
Honk is apparantly filling my role for today
I'll fill theirs for today in return:I think Magni is gonna die
terse patrol
uncut vault
Corrupted die or betrayed die?
hollow dock
Yes
terse patrol
yall just salty cuz im right that tortollans are lame af
hollow dock
You never even proclaimed that.
urban dew
They have their niche
Not advocating for allied race
Just enjoying them for what they are.
I typically try not to spurn other people, so please try and do the same.
hollow dock
"Are we the baddies?" - Horde
terse patrol
uncut vault
🐢 📜
tulip sun
Blackmailing them in order to stay tgere and all that, lol
sullen dagger
Pretty much yea
urban dew
Oh
sullen dagger
Mornin btw
uncut nymph
Arakkoa for alliance allied race when?
urban dew
I just think there's a few signs
urban dew
One, the amount of time that's passed on AU Draenor
35 years is a long time just to show fanatical Draenei and recruit Mag'har
tulip sun
I do hope they show more
frozen dust
Saberon allied race when
urban dew
It also gave time to rebuild a certain race that had low numbers after a civil war and betrayal from within.
Two, Arakkoa worship a balance of light and shadow. Look at the two current Alliance allied races right now.
Tell me what you see
tulip sun
I wish the Horde had something similar
urban dew
Three, there's been plans for them before apparently back for WoD. That's just rumors, bur supposedly Arakkoa and Ogres would be new races. As we can tell, that was cut if it was planned. Now we got the allied race system that makes it far easier to implement new races. Hmmmm.
tulip sun
I think if they planned for new races
They would have announced them or had leaks
More than just mere rumors
urban dew
Four, and this one is a stretch, there's been interest in them before from Aviana who wanted to offer them a place in the borough or something like that. It's an inn quest in the garrison, but it could potentially hold a bit more meaning than we think.
And lastly five, there was a new Ogre model that was recently datamined that uses the Kul'Tiran skeleton as a base.
That seems a bit suspicous, right?
I understand a good chunk of that is far reaching, but what else can you do when there's practically no evidence you can show?
uncut vault
Can you link it?
tulip sun
I can confirm there is an ogre model
rich apex
Oh man
The Wowhead discord icon changes to a fiery background
For a second I thought today was prepatch
tulip sun
-wonders if the clothes are removeable-
tropic trail
You need Jesus
urban dew
Not sure, but they got an Ogre hooked up to the KT skeleton
uncut vault
Oh, the boss lol, that’s just a pirate dude, doesn’t do much for AU ogres
urban dew
Meaning that Ogres can probably run off of a modified version of that
uncut vault
And it’s still just the normal ogre skeleton
rich apex
Call me when ogres can wear normal armor
terse patrol
gib playable ogres
rich apex
Actually, call me when we see a female ogre 😛
rich apex
Yes
terse patrol
maybe one day
terse patrol
they’ll need to formulate how to make them attractive
rich apex
terse patrol
this is blizzard we’re talking about
rich apex
Oh for sure
urban dew
Mogu female don't seem all that attractive
terse patrol
mogu are made out of rock anyways
terse patrol
ogre grills gunna be thicc af
terse patrol
tbh @tropic trail dont rain on our parade!!!
rich apex
This is what we should get https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/d/d1/OgresDuoPortrait.png/revision/latest?cb=20140531111804
urban dew
rich apex
This is what we will get https://orig00.deviantart.net/08b7/f/2013/091/3/2/new_ogre_female_model_for_world_of_warcraft_by_gl_of_cybertron-d604e6n.png
urban dew
That's artwork from Traveler
terse patrol
Reasons.
rich apex
The actual canon art there is pretty good
tropic trail
Hah, no worries, I accidently alt-tabbed to Discord when I meant to type in something else.
terse patrol
UsualBlizzardreasons.jpg
rich apex
I just don't expect that to carry over 😛
uncut vault
See the problem is
rich apex
On the other hand
uncut vault
When they make realistic big women
rich apex
KT women are pretty thicc
uncut vault
Communities throws a fit
rich apex
That is the thing
Every shitbro on the Internet can't comprehend a woman that doesn't look like Megan Fox
Why do we let nerds dictate anything
terse patrol
@uncut vault eh, theres realistic and then theres “doesn’t make sense.”
terse patrol
If they make ogre females look like stay at home moms, I’ll be mad.
rich apex
'CLEARLY a fat kul'tiran woman cannot be a hero, they'd tire themselves out too easily'
no comment is made on even fatter KT men
terse patrol
@rich apex I dont mind Kul Tiran females being heavy weight, but I’d like them to be built for adventurer. Have some muscle.
Same with ogre females
tropic trail
solution: all ogre women should look like illaoi
rich apex
rich apex
Big people have bulk https://i.pinimg.com/originals/98/28/f7/9828f71093d02dc44006ff3e488125ae.jpg
terse patrol
But ye
rich apex
And he's a bodybuilder
Well, that's an understatement
He's the Strongest Man in the World
terse patrol
You cant argue that Kul Tiran females look like they’ve never left their house.
Don’t look like*
rich apex
Half of the female models don't have anything remotely resembling muscle
More than half, probably
terse patrol
I agree, but even the regular human female is more realistic.
rich apex
realism
tropic trail
Meet my new Kul Tiran Human
rich apex
i can fight demigods with my bare (or bear) fists
👌
alternatively, i can fight demigods as a 2 foot tall gnome
terse patrol
I mean, that basically is a Kul Tiran
tropic trail
Boralus is like Lake-town
Oops fixed that
Here's Lake-town...
and here's Boralus.
terse patrol
I still wish they went with a Castillian/Portugese theme with Kul Tiras.
Tired of everything being English themed.
@rich apex know what i mean
rich apex
I would not overestimate the cultural-historical awareness of a bunch of dudes from Cali
terse patrol
lmao
tropic trail
No offense but Lake-town looks 10x better than Boralus.
terse patrol
Like, I suggested that if they ever went back to Alterac, it be made to be Germanic/Swiss. Stromgarde I could see being Italian.
hollow dock
An unfinished product looks worse than a finished one? Shocking
uncut vault
Why can’t my video game look as good as a multi million dollar blockbuster 😠
rich apex
clearly Blizz is lazy
dense plover
saying lake town looks better than boralus
the fuck did you expect?
praise?
youre trying to start shit
terse patrol
Rys.
I’m calling you on your bullshit directly now. Do you just come in here every single day to say something really fucking stupid, in order to cause an argument?
Because it feels that way.
tropic trail
Im just not going to bother initiating in y'alls argument this time
Im going to wait for it to slide by
terse patrol
Most of us in here are tired of it.
tropic trail
^^
then dont say shit
its not hard
it takes two people to argue
And a third to chip in.
Which is where you've came in
zealous basalt
I stg Rys
tropic trail
Multiple times.
Its good, I'm not going to say anything
you're right, it's pretty darn stupid
terse patrol
Don’t say anything from now on.
tropic trail
every time i check this chat it's always an argument
terse patrol
Because all you do is intentionally start shit.
tropic trail
why can't we talk about the best ways to make gold in bfa?
Oh well
Btw what youre doing right now is trying to argue honk
and you're "tired of it"
so why keep trying?
Rys
Please for the love of christ
Stay quiet
Nah it's good, don't worry
It's not good if you're trying to provoke someone
Just don't say anything
Just end it there
tulip sun
If added, your birbs wouldn't be for another year or more tho
urban dew
Eh
They can be added in at any time, really
Since it doesn't rely on story advancing at Kul'Tiras or Zandalar
uncut vault
Kul Tiras
tropic trail
They're usually added in during the Prepatch, just not available to get in the older content you're stuck in
tulip sun
Ya, but i doubt theyll add them befpre patch 8.2
8.1 i assume are kul tirans and zandalari
tropic trail
talking about arakkoa?
uncut vault
They definitely aren’t coming before Kul Tirans and Zandalari
tropic trail
Were they confirmed or something?
tropic trail
oh.
dense plover
they have no model customization, no animations, and arent even sort of relevant to the story in any way
urban dew
Always negative as ever, eh?
tropic trail
I mean, I can see them becoming an allied race but a lot of people are getting pissed about too many allied races.
dense plover
they arent relevant
tropic trail
Could be cool as a full race tho.
dense plover
there are many more relevant races that would be added before them
tropic trail
Don't worry Birbsnek
Just make a Zandalari Troll druid and stay in moonkin form all the time.
hollow dock
8.2: Alliance steals the time artifact and starts the holy crusade
tropic trail
Insert Slayer song
urban dew
Time shard was shattered
tulip sun
I don't get people complaining about too many allied races.
tropic trail
do female arakkoa exist
tulip sun
Like our snekkies
urban dew
Final boss of Skyreach is a female
tropic trail
Ruhkmar is female if you want to go that route of the Arrakoa
I guess people dont want a lot of allied races ¯_(ツ)_/¯
urban dew
They've been wanted since BC
tropic trail
I would like to play Arrakoa, but it just isn't gonna happen
tulip sun
The whole point of the storyline thus far in BfA is gaining allies for the war effort
And it ain't gonna stop
urban dew
Also as Khamnin says
tropic trail
I like the idea of allied races but I feel Arakkoa are just better off as their own race.
Plus, you get more than allied races would get in a lifetime so...
tropic trail
We need ogres though
hollow dock
Thats what people said about pandaren
tropic trail
They make sense
tulip sun
Pandarens have a starter zone?
urban dew
And you can't put in something like the wandering isle in for Arakkoa since they only live in Spires of Arak
hollow dock
Prior to them being made kham
tropic trail
Which is literally a fucking turtle
zealous basalt
Patch 8.3
tropic trail
I dunno, you can introduce them in Ashran to start off.
hollow dock
My point is lost on you all =X
zealous basalt
We go back to 1.0
tulip sun
I mean
tropic trail
Es tut mir leid!
tulip sun
Pandaren are natives
That is different than being form an AU conquered by teh light, on an alien planet
hollow dock
My point is still being lost.
tropic trail
Do arakkoa still exist in Outland?
urban dew
I don't see how they gain more for being a race on the character screen compared to an allied race,
urban dew
Yeah, but their numbers are so few
hollow dock
Numbers dont matter
tropic trail
^
urban dew
More cursed Arakkoa can't be created from Outland, unlike Void Elves which have at least some way to create more
tropic trail
Numbers don't matter, that's why when Mag'har orcs come out there's going to be so many Garrosh Hellscreams
urban dew
They were practically almost extinct from before, with any sort of good Arakkoa in Outland having next to nothing
They just got fucked over hard in our timeline
tropic trail
Who says you have to be a newly created Arrakoa?
You can be like a pre-existing Arrakoa there for that story
Similar to how the Goblins are
And Death knights..
urban dew
You mean one of the remaining few that probably don't even enter the double digits?
Actually, they don't
There's six
tropic trail
Is that a confirmed number?
tropic trail
That's just notable Arrakoa though..
hollow dock
Void elves actually dont
As far as we are aware:there is no way to replicate what happened to make void elbed
Elves*
tropic trail
Even though there probably is
hollow dock
We dont have access to it
tropic trail
Yet*
But it's possible that we might not ever get access
It could be entirely impossible to recreate that
hollow dock
Unless we capture the nether prince, the process to make ethereals and then interupt it to make more void elves is lost to us
urban dew
We have Locus-Walker, don't we?
hollow dock
Are you assuming that just because hes an ethereal that he knows the ritual used by the nether prince?
tulip sun
I think there has to be a way to replicate more void elves.
tropic trail
Would a vrykul allied race come from Northrend or Stormheim?
hollow dock
Stormheim.
tropic trail
Most likely Stormheim
Stormheim Vrykul look to be shorter IMO
and they're friendlier
hollow dock
Its just model sizing.
tropic trail
By Odyn's Beard
urban dew
At least AU Dreanor Arakkoa had 35 years to rebuild
hollow dock
There isnt canonically Khamnin. Maybe a few hundred void elves were made but we have no canonical way to make more.
tropic trail
I wouldnt be too surprised if some of the Arrakoa got sucked into the light aswell
tropic trail
I can see Vrykul going horde
but dwarves..
dwarves would be really nice to the vrykul, yes?
Eh.
Both have a fascination for the titans
more or less the vrykul
Vrykul is more of a worship.
Dwarves may want to learn more about the titans through the vrykul
maybe
Dont know
frozen dust
If I had to guess, I would think they go Alliance
Especially because of the Eyir (?) thing
tropic trail
Either way, playable Stormheim Vrykul would be Warriors, Hunters, Mages, Priests, and Maybe Paladins
Those are the classes that I'm mostly certain of.
Classes I'm not so certain of are Shamans, Death Knights, Monks, and Rogues
hollow dock
I'd argue that Brann would probably go to the Keepers in Ulduar or Odyn himself
hollow dock
The only part that Vrykul DKs wouldn't fit in the current scenario is
tropic trail
Though, having playable vrykul without them being death knights is a sin
If it's Stormheim Vrykul, it wouldn't make much sense
hollow dock
the argent dawn kill your best friend quest
tropic trail
Rogues kind of make sense, Vrykul Assassins definitely exist but IDK about them being rogues
hollow dock
Technically Lilo, there's no real difference if its a dragonflayer Vrykul or a whateverskorn the living vrykul are in Stormhiem
tropic trail
Plus they're too big
hollow dock
and he's an ogre
tropic trail
A sexy ogre at that
hollow dock
Dagg is best ogre
tropic trail
Yeah but it looks like only the really big races cant be rogues
like Tauren
and Draenei
tropic trail
Clip clop clip clop
hollow dock
not size, but the clippity cloppity of the hooves
uncut vault
Draenei should be able to be rogues anyways, fits the rangari + Camo on Hunters
lone marten
My thoughts exactly
tropic trail
But yet he's a rogue
steel venture
Hooves aren't silent but cloven hooves aren't as loud as horse hooves.
hollow dock
Man'ari got extra legion magic shit
lone marten
I bet noone will suspect a massive smurf running arounf
tropic trail
Well Stormheim Vrykul Assassins were only mentioned very briefly
steel venture
There is also literal, actual shoes for horses.
Not metal ones.
normal rubbery ones.
they're typical orthopedic shoes
hollow dock
Horseshoes don't exist in WoW as far as I'm aware.
either that or are rarely mentioned
tropic trail
They do
hollow dock
Oh they do?
tropic trail
They dont, if they did the lf draenei would've used them by now
hollow dock
Where
tropic trail
Look at the bottom of the Stormwind horses feet
The armored ones*
Pretty sure they have shoes
steel venture
also you can find horseshoes around blacksmith areas typically?
and yes, the armored ones do
tropic trail
^^
hollow dock
I've never seen them. O=
steel venture
and lightforged draenei have some type of "shoe" on their feet
tropic trail
Well, who exactly looks at Horse's hooves when they're running :p?
hollow dock
they're not feet D=
tropic trail
why are half their jokes about their hooves hurting
hollow dock
apparently you two
hollow dock
which ones rys
tropic trail
where they keep stepping on shit in the vindicaar
tropic trail
Actual shit or..?
hollow dock
that's the joke of 'Careful, we're still stepping on shards of Xe'ra that we didn't sweep up'
the joke of broken glass on the floor
you always miss some and it cuts your foot
tropic trail
I wish I had cuts on my feet
After being aboard a ship for so long, it is nice to walk on solid ground again. All those hard surfaces were murder on my hooves!
hollow dock
We don't need to know about your foot fetish
zealous basalt
There arw
steel venture
Leatherworkers?
zealous basalt
Hoove guards
hollow dock
So do cellphones then exist in WoW cuz an engineer can clearly make one :p
hollow dock
Mak we're asking the hoof boots
zealous basalt
The trial of valor set puts stuff on hooves
hollow dock
that Nile JUST posted
zealous basalt
Ah
tropic trail
We're talking about the Horse booties
tulip sun
Boots for hooves is beyond our tech
steel venture
This is a universe where there are diesel-and-steam fueled tanks.
tropic trail
steel venture
I think some padding on a hoof isn't that hard.
hollow dock
yea and we still don't have a clip-loaded gun
but we have air fortresses
the tech in WoW is never safe for assumptions
tropic trail
And Godfrey has machine pistols
hollow dock
Machine pistols with no clips*
steel venture
Also there's sayaad and satyr rogues.
hollow dock
btdybs
steel venture
They have hooves too.
hollow dock
btdubs*
steel venture
Hell. GRIMTOTEM have rogues.
hollow dock
saytrs got legion magic and shit
steel venture
And they're twice as big as draenei.
hollow dock
OK grimtotem you got me
cinder marsh
oh the gladiator's sanctum realm is online
steel venture
which still existed in the MU
hollow dock
Hunters can stealth at a base anywas Nile
tropic trail
because I have a shaman has a rangari initiate tmog set
tropic trail
that I cant use on my hunter
steel venture
but yeah no hooves aren't actually as loud as you'd think
there are people who get crept up on by their fully grown horses
hollow dock
people can also be completely distracted from a car crash
or sleep through vaccuums right ontop of them
the passive senses are not really a way of judging stealthiness
steel venture
its actually the metal shoe that makes them sound so loud on harder surfaces though, tbh.
a bare hoof is notably quieter than the typical characteristic "CLIPCLOP"
not totally silent mind you, but not something a humanoid wouldn't be able to cover up.
hollow dock
and yes lilo, here in the states they are called vacuums
tropic trail
Oh, I call those harlots.
hollow dock
right I getcha
hollow dock
as I look through now, rogues also just don't fit with their society.
tropic trail
That doesnt mix
hollow dock
Blood elves rys