beta-ptr-spoilers

[solid fable]

anyone know what the update today did? It was very small

[tropic trail]

fantasy inspired IMO

reminds me a lot of LoTR

also what type of proof are you sending lilo

truly curious

[hollow dock]

Men in lingerie that I oogle at every now and then

but yea. It gave me more roman vibes which I adore

[tropic trail]

Oh god

[hollow dock]

I adore they kept that aesthetic alive and not just secluded to the book.

Though in terms of general 'fantasy' I've lost that in BC.

With space ships

and space.

and space goats

and the realization that orcs and ogres are actually aliens

[tropic trail]

yeah but they're the good type of alien

[hollow dock]

not really

[tropic trail]

at least better than LotR's orc's origins

[hollow dock]

they're not implanting eggs and wiping out civilization as we speak

LotR orcs were badass for origins D= Elves that succumb into corruption of Morgoth. Visually and metaphorically becoming beasts

[tropic trail]

most people associate orcs with wow orcs

so thats pretty cool

[forest tartan]

goblins planting eggs in the ground lol

[sullen dagger]

eh that's kinda not true

[tropic trail]

We need Frodo in Warcraft.

[sullen dagger]

orcs usually are the lotr ones

outside the wow community, offc

[hollow dock]

huh. Most of the people I know of that associate orcs either use the Orks from Warhammer or the LotR ones yea.

since Warhammer and LotR have been around a heckin lot more than WoW.

[meager warren]

we need some creatures that are like the orcs in lotr

[sullen dagger]

man warhammer 40k orks are super fun

i'd love if there was more written about them

[tropic trail]

I always see them being related to LotR, not so much Warhammer

[meager warren]

when i think of orcs i think of warcraft and the second thing i think of is lotr

[tropic trail]

I thought the same omake

[sullen dagger]

or d&d

[hollow dock]

D&D is becoming more popular.

[sullen dagger]

rly?

[tropic trail]

Eh. warcraft and DnD are pretty much the same thing, and true

[hollow dock]

yea

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i tought it was the contrarty

[hollow dock]

thanks to influences like Mercer

who brought the overwatch crowd in

D&D's have a huge surge now

[sullen dagger]

huh

i dod the thing since i ws a teenager

[hollow dock]

I never got into it until now.

And now Im addicted and a DM

[tropic trail]

DM?

[sullen dagger]

but always tought that dnd'ers were an almost extinct race

dungeon master

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Dungeon Master

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the "narrator"

[hollow dock]

the "God" of D&D =D

[tropic trail]

DnD has been making a comeback

[sullen dagger]

vris you do 5e?

or pathfinder?

[hollow dock]

I 5E and sometimes pathfinder.

More so 5E

[sullen dagger]

try a module

i did it a few years ago

[hollow dock]

Currently DMing Storm Kings Thunder actually

[sullen dagger]

it's awfully good

lemme grab it

it's free

[hollow dock]

Going to be starting up a Horde of the Dragon Queen this sunday with my guildies

[tropic trail]

Im so confused

[hollow dock]

These are modules, or pre-built adventures, within DUngeons and Dragons

players make a bunch of characters to form a party and I take them through as they, and I, see fit

[sullen dagger]

vris, here it is

[tropic trail]

D&D is strictly, right

[hollow dock]

Nope

Well

[sullen dagger]

there are two books, this is the core

http://www.dmsguild.com/product/194172/The-Dungeon-Land-v12

[hollow dock]

No I shouldn't say No

It's strict based on the DM

[sullen dagger]

this the "addon"

http://www.dmsguild.com/product/201347/The-Many-MiniDungeons-of-Dungeon-Land-Handbook

[hollow dock]

people like me, we're pretty lax as long as you're not purposefully breaking the game

but there are DM's out there that are super strict

[sullen dagger]

d&d it's pretty lax

[hollow dock]

it depends on the Dm you get behind

[sullen dagger]

check that when you have time

it gives dungeons a new layer of depth

[hollow dock]

I am now

[sullen dagger]

it's a very well tought system

and can craft it on the fly

[hollow dock]

I have my own dungeons planned for my full Homebrew world. when I eventually finish it.

[sullen dagger]

hah

we all do

[hollow dock]

the DM's curse of never finishing their worlds

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and we all hope

[hollow dock]

#D&Dproblems

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^

but this is very useful when a player goes batshit carzy

[hollow dock]

Oh I normally just drop a Remorhaz on them

[sullen dagger]

and maybe opens a portal to another dimension or some shit

that's plain mean

[hollow dock]

=3

[tropic trail]

D&D Is that RP game where you fight by rolling dice n shit?

[sullen dagger]

yep

[hollow dock]

Yup.

[tropic trail]

Meh

[hollow dock]

You use dice to simulate the randomness of the world

[tropic trail]

I can see that

[hollow dock]

Just because you're a master at swinging your sword doesn't mean that orcs armro isn't thicker than normal or that you just have bad days

[tropic trail]

World of Warcraft could be the same

kind of

but its not

[hollow dock]

it is in some RP situations

[tranquil steeple]

D&D is the game where you can be the biggest badass, and the chance is still there that you'll embarass your character infront of your friends' characters

[tropic trail]

Most RP I've experiences isnt like that

[hollow dock]

^

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in fact

[hollow dock]

Or you can be me

[tropic trail]

thats the rp I wanted to experience

[hollow dock]

and accidently end the world

by hitting a nat 1

[tropic trail]

but its just people sitting around goldshite

[tranquil steeple]

[tropic trail]

goldshire

and shit

[uncut vault]

so you're saying you've never left goldshire

[tropic trail]

that do shit like stars you in eyes while cleaning dishes

I did

[hollow dock]

there's this thing called small talk

try it

interact with people

[sullen dagger]

chaos magic?

[tropic trail]

I dont want to do that rp though

[hollow dock]

that's how you segway into the fun stuff Rys

just like real life, you have to be social FIRST then you get all the fun stuff after

[tropic trail]

whats the fun stuff? lmao

[urban dew]

Character interaction is some of the most fun RP

[sullen dagger]

or you can be a barnarian with a 7 in int and do shit just because

[hollow dock]

the fun interactive combats, the romance, the bromances or sisterhoods

[meager warren]

small talk is so boring tho

[tranquil steeple]

It's like running Normal dungeons to progress to HC, and then to Mythic

[hollow dock]

^

[tranquil steeple]

The more you do the boring stuff in Roleplay, the more options open up as you go

[hollow dock]

Who knows what crazy stuff will go down when you talk to that human that just walked in with a limp

[tropic trail]

Id rather do D&D type of RP instead of doing what I do in real life in a game

[uncut vault]

so find a guild

[tropic trail]

tried

[uncut vault]

thats literally in every RP guild

[hollow dock]

what you'd do in D&D is also what you'd do in WoW

small talk

[meager warren]

my first instinct when talking to someone with a limp is "Are you okay"

[hollow dock]

and talk with people

[tranquil steeple]

Vris also put it pretty good

[hollow dock]

and a guild would give you what D&D also gives you

just on a much larger scale

[tranquil steeple]

What if you help that guy with a limp?
[Que your in-game character's whole story while leveling]

[tropic trail]

The guilds I tried finding were very specific. A lot of them were about militaries and shit for some reason

[hollow dock]

since you can coordinate multiple guild groups into massive hundreds of player battles

[sullen dagger]

or you can be el lucha

https://i.imgur.com/wW6fdmK.jpg

[meager warren]

or on a much smaller scale since you're more likely to know the D&D people irl

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I CAST PUNCH

[tropic trail]

I literally cant read that.

[sullen dagger]

GRAPPLE ALLTHEWAY

JUST OPEN THE LINK

ops sorry caps

[tropic trail]

BITCH I'M BLIND

[meager warren]

"I attempt to punch the opponent but but because my luck is horrible, i punch one of my allies or myself instead"

[sullen dagger]

oh sorry

[tropic trail]

Well if y'all know a good US D&D styled RP guild HMU

but most of the ones I see are military ones

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tought it was because the size of the image

[tropic trail]

that are strict as fuck

[sullen dagger]

@tropic trail ```Playing half-orc monk. Decided to play something beyond weeaboo 'i am master of martial arts'. Spent 100gp on an inlaid mask with intricate tribal designs sewn on the sides with a 'fin' on top. Thus I became LOS TIBURON, THE SHARK OF THE LAND, MASKED WRESTLER. I took all my feats revolving around grappling. Grappled EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING. EVERY. FUCKING. THING. Including, but not limited to, a bear.

Final part of the campaign: OH SHIT DRAGON. Dragon acts like a dick, ducking into the water and popping out for breath weapon. Fuck that; I'm charging its ass. My brother was playing a warforged fighter and assists my MIGHTY LEAP into the air, where I pose mid-air and shout about the HONOR OF THE MASK. That's how I TACKLED A FUCKING DRAGON. Dealt unarmed damage, latched on, and took a deep breath to prepare for the underwater struggle.

Dragon goes up. Forgot they can actually fly. DM gives me the option to let go before he goes up. Fuck that, I'm still wrestling! 200 FEET IN THE AIR, STILL WRESTLING A DRAGON AND DEALING UNARMED DAMAGE! Dragon actually starts hurting me; I need a plan. That's when brilliance strikes me:

"I roll to pin."

The entire table fell silent. "I roll to 'pin' the dragon's wings behind its back, so it can't fly anymore." THE ENTIRE TABLE LEANS FORWARD TO WATCH THIS ROLL OF DESTINY. NATURAL. FUCKING. TWENTY. I pin the dragon's wings, sending it and me hurtling into the ground. I have one combat round left to make my final statement.

"I AM LOS TIBURON! AND I... AM... A LUCHA!!!"

Dragon's neck snaps on impact. Through sheer luck or GM fiat -- possibly both -- I survive at -4 HP. The party cleric brings me back up to 1 HP, picks me up, and holds one arm into the air. My brother the fighter immediately bangs his shield twice, making the bell noise. Party's bard/diplomancer announces "And the winner is... Los Tiburon!"

And that's how I made it to level four.```

[tropic trail]

That's just sad.

[hollow dock]

sad?! that's amazing!

[tropic trail]

It's le sad.

[hollow dock]

He wrestled a dragon 200 feet into the air

[tropic trail]

Looks at Dragon Soul

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then forced it to plummet straight down and live

[sullen dagger]

it's the summum of epicness

[tropic trail]

Again, looks at Dragon Soul

[hollow dock]

Unlike dragon soul, he didn't use any bitch magic

he used his own fists and muscles

like any true luchadore!

[sullen dagger]

greentexts are kinda nice

[tropic trail]

But it's nicer when I'm able to actually see and read it

[sullen dagger]

there goes another ```Make a bear character in D&D 3.5. DM laughs. Make a bear rogue, put every point I can into disguise. Prestige class as a spy to get more disguise. DM says I can't speak English. Max out bluff. By growling and gesturing, I can fake speaking a language I don't speak (english).

Use money to hire a butler NPC. Give him a magical item to let him speak bear.

"GROWWWWWWL"

"An excellent suggestion, Mister Bearington. We really should ask the group to investigate the Black Marsh."

Over the course of the game, be knighted as Sir Bearington. Queen holds a dinner in my honor. A guest becomes the first man to ever make a perception check that can beat my disguise. Shouts out loud, "HEY, THAT GUY'S NOT A GUY, HE'S JUST A BEAR!" Man is escorted out of the castle while the guards apologize profusely for the indignity.

"We're so sorry, Sir Bearington, very sorry for this man's behavior."

"ROAR" shrug```

[tropic trail]

is it weird when guys try to talk soft when flirting

asking girls btw

or gay dudes

whatever

[sullen dagger]

what

[hollow dock]

LOL

[sullen dagger]

rys dude

[hollow dock]

that's great Omake

[sullen dagger]

bearington is awesome

and that shows the level of controlled chaos that can be in play on d&d

[hollow dock]

But mind you

Your DM has to be behind it all

[tropic trail]

is it though

is it weird

[hollow dock]

Never just straight up do it on your own

[sullen dagger]

yeah, a good dm is super important

[hollow dock]

always consult the DM

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what's werid?

[hollow dock]

a happy DM is a good DM

[sullen dagger]

^

[tropic trail]

is it weird when guys try to talk soft when flirting

[hollow dock]

not for me.

I think its cute. =3

[sullen dagger]

but honestly, all the dm wants usually is involvment

[tropic trail]

awh shit

by soft I mean totally out of character

[sullen dagger]

what flirting dude

who with who?

[tropic trail]

like they could be the loudest person

then start talking soft

I like flirting if it can be reciprocated :p

[hollow dock]

I think its adorbs =3

they're all shy and unsure.

[tropic trail]

The makings of a true daddy

[hollow dock]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

[tropic trail]

its cute when they're shy because you can easily convince them to do certain... stuff

aka the whip daddy

[hollow dock]

If you want to abuse it

sure

If that's your thing have at it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sullen dagger]

i'm lost af

[hollow dock]

Rys is asking if it's weird when a man speaks softly when flirting

[strange falcon]

this went south fast

[hollow dock]

as if they were shy

[sullen dagger]

why so?

[strange falcon]

for science

[tropic trail]

It goes south real fast when family is involved

[sullen dagger]

wut.jpg

[hollow dock]

I dunno

Rys asks a lot of weird questions. I just entertain him,

[tropic trail]

I dont ask a lot of weird questions though

I could ask weirder but that's an avenue for more closer people XD

all my questions are either controversial or having to do with ingame help

tbh

[hollow dock]

Almost every single question you ask is weird, subjective and seemingly personal.

[tranquil steeple]

I almost take that as a challenge, but I'm not a person close to you @ Lilo

[tropic trail]

No, not really

unless you consider asking stuff like

"will vrykul be an allied race"

[hollow dock]

thats' why I said almost Rys

[tropic trail]

or "what's the prydaax"

[hollow dock]

Almost all of them.

Like 90/10 split

the 10 being WoW/Beta questions

[tropic trail]

except most of the questions I ask have to do with that

almost all of my questions have been wow related, rarely beta related though

[hollow dock]

They really don't. You ask a lot more on the IRL/Off topic social stuff than the WoW stuff.

[tropic trail]

as of today, yes

While me, a classy individual asks about WoW in-game stuff because let's be honest, no one cares about sexy men in lingerie.

[hollow dock]

Oh no, no one should unless you're in a discord for that.

[sullen dagger]

well not really

[tropic trail]

Looks at my discord servers

Heh...

[tranquil steeple]

are you implying I should from here on out?

[tropic trail]

You're welcome to read through our discussions days previous of today, I'm pretty sure of it

please dont accuse me of that stuff

I accuse you of asking Vris personal questions.

personal would be asking like "where you live" "what age are you"

Which I dont

[hollow dock]

I consider IRL questions to be along the lines of Personal considering the medium we're on and the familiarity we share

[tropic trail]

^^

Really any IRL questions whether it'd be about flirting.. Interests.. or etc is personal.

I dont really ask personal questions

because I dont really care

Looks at the question asked earlier

Dont remember what it was

the part about soft voice?

Oui.

That's not really personal

just wanted an opinion on that

[frigid umbra]

The motherload of all personal questions... mustard or ketchup? 😂

[tropic trail]

It's kind of weird, I guess, but it's not really personal

It's not like im asking for your love life

[sullen dagger]

ketchup + mayo

clearly

[urban dew]

Nah, the real question is: Coke or Pepsi?

[frigid umbra]

Uuuu forgot mayo... good one

And def pepsi

[tropic trail]

The true question is, Has the icestone melted?

Sprite or 7 UP?

[frigid umbra]

Sprite for sure

Lol

This are existential questions... very deep

These*

[tropic trail]

green tea or iced tea

may not seem that hard to y'all

I prefer black tea.

but it's really hard for me to answer

[hollow dock]

I dont like tea.

I drink water

[tropic trail]

And tears*

[hollow dock]

^

[frigid umbra]

Lol

[tropic trail]

All the tears of the Horde dogs.

[hollow dock]

Lilo knows what's up

[frigid umbra]

Victory for sylvanas

[tropic trail]

Always have to, Night elves have a special mind-meld technique with eachother.

[hollow dock]

nelf fist bump

[tropic trail]

water is flavorless though

atleast clean water

[hollow dock]

So?

[tropic trail]

...?

[hollow dock]

It quenches my thirst

[tropic trail]

I just said that to set up my joke

And doesn't dehydrate you.

about nasty water having flavor

Ever drank water from tap?

[hollow dock]

shudder

what monster forces anyone to drink tap

[tropic trail]

I will only drink tap water if it's been frozen for a week.

Literally

ever tried to drink pool water

after not cleaning the pool for a week

[obsidian zodiac]

Yeah, tastes pretty good

[tropic trail]

I mean.. Considering I can't swim..

I would post a picture of my nasty ass pool, just for y'all to imagine the type of diseases you'd get from drinking it

but my phone broke

consider yourself lucky

but no it's really bad

I've drank pool water inadvertanly

If I keep it empty the ground cracks around it

and if I clean it and fill it up again

it'll just get dirty

I dont have the time to clean it everyday

It's called having a filter

I have one

[sullen dagger]

dude, there are places that the tao water is actually quite good

tap*

[tropic trail]

Not where I live

Around here it's well water, which if you ever had that. I'm sorry.

[sullen dagger]

nah never

[hollow dock]

You dont have to clean a pool every day you know

Clean it once a week

chlorine it once a week

Clean its filter once a month

and done

[tropic trail]

Yeah thats what I meant lol

by everyday

plus I have a lot of trees looming over it

That's not everyday

[hollow dock]

everyday and once a week are very separate things

:p

[sullen dagger]

^

[tropic trail]

right...

[hollow dock]

I clean it every sunday morning

[urban dew]

Hah, I take my water from the stagnant pond out back!

[sullen dagger]

woah man

dod y'all live in the countryside?

[hollow dock]

I'm hispanic. We don't know the meaning of 'sleep in'

[tropic trail]

I'm German, I don't know the meaning of 'Sober'

It may not seem like it but I actually have pretty busy days

Just type here inbetween

[hollow dock]

oh so do I. )

[tropic trail]

^^

I own about 50 chickens

[sullen dagger]

^^^

[hollow dock]

but my weekends are pretty clea8r.

So I just pick sunday morning to clean my pool

[sullen dagger]

i onw the dark souls cat

she's friggin amazing btw

[tropic trail]

I dont have a pool. :^)

I wouldnt recommend owning 50 chickens btw

too many damn eggs

[sullen dagger]

sell'em

[tropic trail]

^^

[hollow dock]

Just toss em at people

that's what I'd do

[sullen dagger]

or do sish kebab with the chikens

[hollow dock]

or aros con pollo

mhmm aros con pollo

[sullen dagger]

i preffer chicken tears

[tropic trail]

nobody wants to buy eggs

tried

[hollow dock]

just egg people

[tropic trail]

if you seen my previous comment I live on a pretty small island

so there's not much people to sell eggs too

hell I'm lucky I even get internet

its bad though

[sullen dagger]

look that beatuiful prick

👌

[hollow dock]

Go out on a boat

and

[sullen dagger]

she's an ass tho

[hollow dock]

check eggs at sharks

that's what I'd do

[tropic trail]

that'd be wasting eggs

^

[hollow dock]

You have 50 chickens

how many eggs do you honestly eat

per day

that it' dbe wasting

[tropic trail]

about 57 actually

[hollow dock]

that can't be healthy

[tropic trail]

had more but coons

You eat 57 eggs?

Holy fuck I feel bad for you bmi

5 of them are roosters

[hollow dock]

Oh

he's talking about chickens

ok

jesus

[tropic trail]

and I sell most

Eating 57 eggs.

[hollow dock]

I thought you meant 57 eggs a day

[tropic trail]

Shivers

[sullen dagger]

i think the average medics advice is 5 or so at week?

[tropic trail]

I eat that many in a month :p

Ack.

[hollow dock]

ah shit. I eat way to many then

[tropic trail]

I would play more games but wow's a handful

[hollow dock]

2 a day every day.

[tropic trail]

I'm almost jealous.

Make me some eggs.

[sullen dagger]

eggs has lotsa cholestrerol

[hollow dock]

come on over and i'll make you a colombian delicacy

Aros con huevos

[tropic trail]

Omw ;^)

[hollow dock]

fry an egg, mix it in some rice

bam

that's your dinner

[sullen dagger]

Eggs got a bad rep in the past for their high amounts of cholesterol (186 mg per large egg—previous guidelines advised consuming no more than 300 mg of cholesterol total per day).

[tropic trail]

I do that already

[hollow dock]

ha fuck the health advisory

[sullen dagger]

best way to eat eggs is the spanis omelette

period

spanish*

[hollow dock]

Nah

[tropic trail]

I actually dont really like eggs 😃

[hollow dock]

best way to eat eggs

[sullen dagger]

yah

[hollow dock]

is in arepas

[frozen dust]

I can't cook rice without it either clumping together or burning to the pan

My whiteness is too strong

[hollow dock]

Use oil, sax.

[sullen dagger]

olve

[tropic trail]

They're just my grandmama's chickens

I usually just boil it

well

[hollow dock]

Like while the rice is starting to boil in the water

dash in just a bit of oil

a bit of salt

and bam

[sullen dagger]

yeppers

and cover the rice when it's cooking

[hollow dock]

and make sure to stir periodically.

[sullen dagger]

that's one of the main things

[frozen dust]

Oil, salt, cover, stir a bit

Rad

[tropic trail]

Also, having some kelp rolls sounds nice rn

[sullen dagger]

^except in the paella, but that's other dish

well, i never stor the rice when i cook it

[tropic trail]

Thats prolly the issue

[sullen dagger]

13 mins medium covered and it gets perfect

basmati rice, tho

[hollow dock]

OH SAX

Jasmine Rice

That is by far the best rice

[tropic trail]

Is it just me or do y'all also paint a picture of someone in your mind when talking with them online

[hollow dock]

I don't.

[tropic trail]

I'm a basic bitch, I just like white rice because I'm uncultured

[hollow dock]

ugh

never come to my home

[tropic trail]

💔

[hollow dock]

I'll spoil you with good food

[sullen dagger]

white rice is one of the staples

[hollow dock]

and you can never go back to mediocre food ever again

[tropic trail]

I can show you some German sushi ;p

[frozen dust]

Jasmine, cool

[tropic trail]

y'all ever tried frozen food? that shit good

[hollow dock]

Bleh

[frozen dust]

The store I work at sells that for cheap

[tropic trail]

Frozen

[sullen dagger]

frozen food is satan

[hollow dock]

^

[tropic trail]

its all I have to eat

and eggs

[sullen dagger]

all handamde, all with love

[tropic trail]

Eat your chickens

[hollow dock]

same omake

[frozen dust]

I dunno, as far as frozen food goes

You should really just

Let it go

[hollow dock]

Since I live so close to Hialeiah, I can get chicken and pig fresh every day

slaughtered in front of me if I wish =3

[tropic trail]

I can get both fresh if I paid enough

[grizzled sleet]

I can get them both if I ask my little undead servant to bring them to me

[tropic trail]

I would make fresh food but I go grocery shopping like every 2 weeks

every 3 weeks

And?

and I dont know what to buy really

[hollow dock]

Get some chicken breasts

boneless

[tropic trail]

I go to the store once a month and I cook for myself

[hollow dock]

or thighs

boneless

chop em up at home

put em in baggies

[sullen dagger]

chicken breasts, potatoes, rice, some carcass for broth

[hollow dock]

slap em in the freezer

bam

[tropic trail]

Oh well I make burgers and stuff like that, yeah

[hollow dock]

Fresh chicken for the next few weeks

[tropic trail]

I don't just make burgers.

hold on

[hollow dock]

I wonder if Thulm is still watching us and just sitting in disblief in how far off topic we've gotten

[tropic trail]

I just dont have time to make fresh food all the time

y'know?

[sullen dagger]

hahaha

[tropic trail]

I don't either

That's why I have enough for leftovers.

[hollow dock]

I make the time

[sullen dagger]

i think he just knows we're all bonkers

[grizzled sleet]

https://welcomeback.worldofwarcraft.com/static/images/hero-bg-1800.jpg

[sullen dagger]

the beauty of the cuisine is that of you cook, you can have food for days

[hollow dock]

Yea peach got us that pic earlier today.

[sullen dagger]

and for far less than premade food or forzen food

[hollow dock]

horde bias

[dense plover]

bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/template_resource/LSCKJJOCOUW51529534555536.jpg

[hollow dock]

and all that

[dense plover]

there is this version too

[hollow dock]

Oh hey peach

[sullen dagger]

it can save you a fuckton of money as months pass by

[dense plover]

its slightly different

[hollow dock]

did you catch what I said on the void elves and LFD?

[dense plover]

yes

[hollow dock]

and? o= you kinda just dropped it.

[sullen dagger]

whaddya said?

missed that

[hollow dock]

Oh it was the topic of LFD Shadow priests and holy velves and how, by lore, they shouldn't exist. Solely by lore since it kinda breaks it

[tropic trail]

peach

am I supposed to search google with that

oor?

Yes.

[sullen dagger]

just paste that in the broswer bar

[tropic trail]

I did that

[dense plover]

i understand the point

[tropic trail]

it just brought me to google

You're supposed to look it up on Firefox.

[frozen dust]

Where do you stand on belf spriests btw, Vris? I've seen people angry at velves over making them irrelevant or pariahs in Silvermoon and I usually like hearing your take on these things

[sullen dagger]

nono, in the browser bar

[tropic trail]

Yeah

the browser bar

let me try again

[hollow dock]

I think its more a pariah socially for the belves themselves.

[dense plover]

you are right that there cant be light void elves

[hollow dock]

But every belf does not need to feed on the sunwell

[tropic trail]

Okay got it

[hollow dock]

that's my stance on it

[dense plover]

^

clearly some still feed on life force since they can be warlocks

[tropic trail]

Flaw with void elves

[tropic trail]

Damn

[hollow dock]

yea.

[tropic trail]

At least HM Tauren classes fit perfectly

[hollow dock]

Priest does fit perfectly Rys

just specifically shadow priest.

[dense plover]

^

[tropic trail]

I mean, you got elves like Liadrin who don't need the sunwell anymore to feed their magic addiction.

Yeah I know

[hollow dock]

but by the game you have to have holy and disc in there.

[tropic trail]

but holy void elves

[hollow dock]

Indeed Lilo

[dense plover]

disc priest makes some sense

[hollow dock]

but that's not hte case for every belf.

[dense plover]

they have some shadow stuff dont they?

[tropic trail]

I know.

Never said it was.

[hollow dock]

Discipline does yea.

[sullen dagger]

i think it's doable

[hollow dock]

It has some shadow, but mostly light.

[sullen dagger]

like the undead priest

[uncut vault]

disc is very much a holy leaning spec. can glyph/talent to make everything except shadowmend holy

[hollow dock]

An undead priest is different than a void elf doing holy powers Omake.

[tropic trail]

They can do what they did with dark iron paladins and kind of give them a dark theme

[hollow dock]

As stated in Chronicles, pure energies of the void and light meeting caused our universe to be made.

[sullen dagger]

well, right

they aint rised by the void

i give you that

[hollow dock]

And then again in Thousand years war, Light and Shadow cannot mix.

[uncut vault]

dark iron paladins dont have a dark theme, more of a heat of the anvil theme

[hollow dock]

The holy fire theme is for DID paladins

[tropic trail]

Yeah that's kind of what I meant when I said dark theme

But it's not dark..

[hollow dock]

It's quite the opposite. Unless you mean it's dark int he idea that it's grimdark.

Where it's more akin to scarlet crusade.

[tropic trail]

Yeah

[frozen dust]

I think by dark he meant it's grittier than standard pally fair, yeah

[hollow dock]

ah ok.

[tropic trail]

I mean grimdark too

[hollow dock]

I wouldn't say that they're grittier/grimdark compared to the normal paladins we have.

[tropic trail]

Grim Guzzler?

[hollow dock]

The darkest paladins got by that sense is the Scarlet Crusade and the old Blood Knights pre-Sunwell.

[tropic trail]

And even some of the Silver Hand OGs too.

[hollow dock]

ehhhh. That's a little to ambiguous since that was WC1/2

[tropic trail]

Do the Dark Irons have a Paladin order?

or are they part of the silver hand

[hollow dock]

Nope. they'd more or less be joining the Silver Hand.

[tropic trail]

Or at least the Argent Dawn if anything

Err

Crusade?

Damn, It'll be cool to have some Dwarf type paladin group

[hollow dock]

The Dawn and Crusade's been absorbed into the Silver Hand

[tropic trail]

I'm sorry ;-;

[hollow dock]

it's alright!

[tropic trail]

definitely for roleplay reasons

[hollow dock]

it can be pretty confusing

See, that'd take some player ingenuity Rys!

there's certainly room for you to operate a dwarf only paladin group. Independent of the Silver Hand.

[frozen dust]

The Molten Hand

[tropic trail]

Also

Lmao

Dark Iron hype

[frozen dust]

YEAH BOI

[hollow dock]

I'm only really excited for Kul Tiran

I want my wicker cat

[tropic trail]

Looks more like dog to me

[frozen dust]

DID and Zandalar boomkin for me

[hollow dock]

I got my wonderful helf turned velf and my true to heart Crusader that'll shove her holy light down your throat LFD.

[tropic trail]

Sounds like a fun time ;p

[hollow dock]

DUES VULT

[tropic trail]

Speaking of High Elves and Paladins, since they're giving Paladin Allied Races to Ally and Shaman Allied Races to Horde

High Elf would be a perfect fit

[hollow dock]

Dark Iron can be shamans as well. o;

[tropic trail]

Dark Iron shamans make sense though

[hollow dock]

the only reason that LFD can't is because they didn't get to learn from Nobundo.

[tropic trail]

Not making them Shamans would be a shame

Also how do I trade mana to Thalyssra for the World Quest

You talk to her

[hollow dock]

You collect it from nodes.

you then talk to her and offer them to her through clickable options

[dense plover]

its likely that zandalari will be able to be paladins

it will help balance the number of different classes across factions. it wont fix it, but it will help

[frozen dust]

Ion has been really coy about that so far

[hollow dock]

he's been coy/crass about a lot of things honestly

[frozen dust]

Also as far as KT goes I'm thinking about changing my nelf to one

[tropic trail]

Yeah I clicked her but I dont see the option

[frozen dust]

The only allied race I'm not real on board with is Mag'har

[tropic trail]

Shame on you

[hollow dock]

it's literally normal orc

that's brown

[tropic trail]

I think it's cool that it's happening though

been requested for a very long time

and they're as different as high elves are to blood elves

[frozen dust]

Oh yeah, it's cool

But I'm not gonna work for the heritage armor like the others

[dense plover]

its so great for rp

and it isnt just brown orrcs

its almost every clan

laughing skull, blackrock, bladefist

shadowmoon i think

[frozen dust]

Yeah, I'll almost definitely swap over the one orc shaman I have lol

[hollow dock]

tinted orcs*

[tropic trail]

I dont see where I turn in 400 mana

[hollow dock]

I've come to help with the withered and their combat training

like it states

in the WQ

[tropic trail]

"brown orcs" black orcs exist

black skin options I mean

Black orcs are already an option though

[hollow dock]

tinted orcs*

[tropic trail]

Spray painted*

Can anyone help me with this though

[hollow dock]

you almost made me choke lilo

[tropic trail]

I cant find where I turn in mana

[hollow dock]

I already told you

[9:39 PM] Vris: >I've come to help with the withered and their combat training
[9:39 PM] Vris: like it states
[9:39 PM] Vris: in the WQ

[tropic trail]

Es tut mir leid ;-;

[dense plover]

its roleplay

i like the different skins

[tropic trail]

I dont want to do that WQ

I want to do the one where I turn in 400 ancient mana

Visible confusion

[hollow dock]

ITS THE SAME OPTION RYS

[tropic trail]

THAT'S THE WQ

FACE DESK

No need to be rude

I just seen a WQ earlier

[hollow dock]

that's not being rude

[tropic trail]

that said to do the withered training

and I thought it was a totally different thing

its a little rude when you say stuff like "THATS THE WQ FACEDESK"

[tranquil steeple]

._.

[tropic trail]

But it's bad when you don't read the title of the WQ itself.

Im a little tired

just want to finish these WQ

I really like the suramar dungeon kind of feel

when going in old temples

Does anyone know how to get to Na'zak?

[frozen dust]

I'm not sure, honestly

[tropic trail]

its good, found it

[terse patrol]

Horde: “wow thank goodness these furbolg have allowed us to pass after dueling their leader”

alliance shows up later

all the ‘bolgs are enslaved by the horde

wot

[frozen dust]

[rich apex]

time gaps man

[uncut vault]

they arent allowed to pass, the leaders are defeated, and the horde rolls in and takes over the area.

[tropic trail]

So I just seen a night elf druid with masquerade go into a manasaber

do they have bearforms too?

[tulip sun]

o.o

Woa

Didnt know that

[tropic trail]

Pretty cool, right?

I had the same reaction

I guess thats why people want nightborne druids so bad lol

[tulip sun]

Doesn't make much sense though

[tropic trail]

Yeah, that sucks

I dont think HM Tauren druids have much lore either

Though I know there are people in this server who love to prove me wrong

[uncut vault]

they make plenty of sense, arcane induced nature magic is a common thing, theyve got grovetenders everywhere, a boss in NH that is the definition of a balance and resto druid

[tulip sun]

HM Tauren make more sense than Nightborne.

At least, wait a while

[tropic trail]

I feel like someone here said Malfurion was the first druid and he couldnt teach them or something at the time

[tulip sun]

They were not taught Druidism

[tropic trail]

though I could've read that online

[grizzled sleet]

is it true that some characters last names tell something about their fate like Cordana Felsong ? is there any other example?

[uncut vault]

cordana felsong just got her name from WC3

[uncut vault]

she was a random warden hero

[tropic trail]

triggered yet?

[grizzled sleet]

But doesn't "Felsong" speak about what happened to her in the end?

[uncut vault]

I mean they probably chose it for that, but it was just a name made up in 2003

[grizzled sleet]

Okay

[strange ermine]

Anyone know how hunters are looking next expac?

[tropic trail]

never tried it but heard some positive feedback on survival

[grizzled sleet]

I tried BM and it's good, rotation is even better than legion if you don't take the "Hati" talent. It's good for pvp too, I did some duels near stormwind

[strange ermine]

Thanks!

[tropic trail]

Im really impressed with how Legion turned out

Definitely broken isles, just beatiful

[uncut vault]

MM is a bit wonky atm, especially with AoE, but the new design is decent. I'm probably one of the few that liked vulnerability, but the new stuff isnt bad

BM is basically unchanged, with talent improvements

Survival overhaul is spectacular, might become my main hunter spec

feels a lot more like the classic WC3 beastmaster than beast mastery

[zealous basalt]

Yeah, Legion was a nice expac

[uncut vault]

in an xpac or two, I guarantee legion will be remembered as one of the best alongside wrath by the community, if not the best

[zealous basalt]

Wrath has something that makes it the nostalgia hit

[grizzled sleet]

Varian, Vol'Jin and Ysera don't think that legion was a good expac

[tropic trail]

Definitely voljin

lasted one expansion

We got big plans for you Voljin next Xpac

You're gonna get fucked

isn't vol'jin making an apperance in bfa?

I think so

He's like a loa now

[zealous basalt]

Are copies available in Beta?

[uncut vault]

character copies? yes

[zealous basalt]

My friend wants to create a magar and it says that he needs bfa

[tropic trail]

damn this sucks

doing HM WQ

on a PVE server

join a team doing a WQ boss

and then I start getting fucked by a warlock outta nowhere

[zealous basalt]

HAH

[tropic trail]

I dont get it

was my team on a PVP server or something?

no that cant be it because I was grouped with my friends on a pvp server in durotar

and I had to enable pvp

[zealous basalt]

You got phased into a pvp realm perhaps

[uncut vault]

if you join someone who is on a pvp realm you are flagged up

also Rys, non-BfA/future stuff goes in #retail-wow

[tropic trail]

yeah my bad

[uncut vault]

we might have a prepatch date

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411187738520322050/459549126988660746/VsSPGdy.png

based on when this ends, and the amount of time this takes (month minus 3 days), prepatch, or at least darkshore, will be on July 17th

[meager warren]

it'll be released on ptr/ live?

[zealous basalt]

its already in ptr

[stiff vector]

a surprise build appears https://www.mmo-champion.com/content/7716-Battle-for-Azeroth-Beta-Build-26903

[uncut vault]

so new allied races will be to the max level of that xpac?

odd

[zealous basalt]

like right now?

new snek

[urban dew]

Sneks

There we go boys, we got the Sethrak female model

[wild pewter]

Surprise build boiiis

[zealous basalt]

@hollow dock Skitties

[wild pewter]

I like the cloaks and tabards, do we know what they're for?

[meager warren]

when i saw "Sethrak female model" i was excited but then i looked and nope

[urban dew]

Sorry man, it was a joke

[uncut vault]

theyre the elite tabard and cloak

for seasons 1 and 2 at least

[meager warren]

yea ik that now

[urban dew]

Anyone else curious about the new snake model?

[uncut vault]

https://i.gyazo.com/2ea368d24a473381dbf6dbc0c710f5d6.png

[urban dew]

Aw boo

I was wondering if that could've been a potential druid form

[stiff vector]

hah

good joke

[urban dew]

?

[stiff vector]

that being a viable druid form

[urban dew]

Could've been a travel form

[stiff vector]

i disagree

but alas

that doesnt mean much in this channel generally

[urban dew]

Anything can happen. They may or may not have druid

[stiff vector]

sure

[urban dew]

I believe it's 4 to 5 right now with Alliance 4 and Horde 5

And usually that's meant to be kept equal

[stiff vector]

yeah it will be

i'm just not sure it'll happen this beta still

[urban dew]

Yeah, I don't think they'd release any major spoilers around Sethrak being a playable race

I think we got enough of a hint

[stiff vector]

yeah we'll see in 8.1 PTR or higher

which at this rate is only like a few months away so

[urban dew]

I actually think elsewise, but I'll leave it there before I'm called crazy

[stiff vector]

👍

[grizzled sleet]

Is the 3 hunters pets passives shared between all pets spec now or I'm dreaming ?

[dense plover]

no

pets no longer can change specs

each pet family has a set of abilities

so classifying them by spec serves no purpose

Also, if new allied races are to the max level of the expac, maybe theyll start higher than level 20, maybe level 30?

[bronze holly]

Something's not quite right. 🤔

[uncut vault]

Mur’hurhur

[sour burrow]

Jump in ze vat!

[dense plover]

i mean

it makes sense that the expansion allied race requires getting to that expacs level

but if they continue to start at lvl 20, its going to get very tedious

[grizzled sleet]

@dense plover you didn't inderstand what I said

the recent build gave all pets specialisations the passives

+15% leech +8% speed +5% HP

to the 3 specs

Pathfinding You and your pet gain 8% increased movement speed. None - Cunning & Cunning Spec. Ferocity, Tenacity Spec. Unlimited range.

Predator's Thirst You and your pet gain 10% Leech. None - Cunning, Ferocity, Ferocity, Tenacity Spec. Unlimited range.

Endurance Training You and your pet gain 5% increased maximum health. None - Cunning, Ferocity, Tenacity & Tenacity Spec. Unlimited range.

So you get 8% speed +5% HP +15% leech no matter what pet you take

[dense plover]

oh

hmmm

maybe its because those abilities and specs arent related

thats what i mean

like

a tenacity pet isnt always going to have all those abilities

it depends on the pet family

[grizzled sleet]

no, pet familly got a special ability (the family ability) but the spec still matter (even if yo ucan't change it)

wait a sec

I will screen

The recent build isn't yet applied to the beta, so for now here is what we got

The recent build gave all specs these passives (but not the actives abilities)

Now if you take a spirit beast you get the healing spell (spirit beast ability) + Survival of the fittest + 5% HP for you and your pet

With the new build if you take a spirit beast you get the healing spell + survival of the fittest + 5% HP + 8% Speed + 15% leech

[dense plover]

huh

i guess they are sharing all the passives then

maybe its a balancing concern

since some pets would be better for the passives otherwise

new fishing rod cast noise btw

just noticed

Also, just caught a fish called a midnight salmon

that says it aappears in the late hours of the day

which it is

on use, it teleports you to the nearest fishing node in KT or Zandalar

[grizzled sleet]

Hummm

Did you try herbalism ? last time I tried I got 5 or 6 differents herbs from the same zone, can we farm all of them anywhere ?

[dense plover]

no

some of them only exist in certain biomes types

there is a snow one for example

doesnt exist on zandalar

but zandalar has a few unique ones too

you will need to farm on both continents i think

[grizzled sleet]

Oh I see, I will try on Zandalar next time

[dense plover]

but i dont think you will need to farm on both continents to level your profession at least to the point where you will be able to go back and forrth beween both continents

[grizzled sleet]

how many herbs are there in total?

I think I will try farming on each zone to find out what is the best way of farming them quickly on live

[dense plover]

at least 6

maybe more

i know there are some that are exclusive to each continent

kul tiras has a winter one

zandalar has akuna's bite

maybe other stuff too

[grizzled sleet]

Ok

[uncut vault]

https://i.gyazo.com/9a9581501b013dac3099dbef3ec8f62f.png

added at the end of the dungeon

totally mage tower-esque challenge set up

[worthy jolt]

Can someone tell me what’s the difference between the beta and the ptr?

[tranquil steeple]

Beta has actual BfA content for you to make sure works. PTR just has pre-patch stuff (currently, afaik)

[worthy jolt]

Got it,thanks

[simple pilot]

Hey guys, i need the expansion to play beta?

[frigid crater]

no

[clever ember]

You need an invite from blizzard to play the beta. But they are random. You could also enter a giveaway on wowhead or win a code from a wow streamer.

[strange falcon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7CqHu7IfVQ

[grizzled sleet]

The element of surprise is on our side

[jade basalt]

http://bfa.wowhead.com/item=164370/highmaul-ambassadors-garb 🤔

[frozen dust]

[runic vault]

PTR Kinda bugged out for me, lol. I was pleasantly surprised when I found this

This is how I logged in on my DH

[hollow dock]

Yea the artifact skins are all wonky

[tropic trail]

Taste the rainbow

[hollow dock]

you'll even have ones appear that you haven't actually earned from time to time if you don't mog them

[tropic trail]

What if you have all of them?

[oak wraith]

Is PTR character copy still bugged?

I could copy one char, but after that never had the button appear again 😢

[tropic trail]

I wonder how mogu would've looked like with the curse of flesh

[hollow dock]

You've seen Lei Shen right?

how they look now is the whole 'Curse of Flesh' look for em. o;

[tropic trail]

so swole smurfs

[hollow dock]

well not all of them are blue. but yea.

[tropic trail]

alright

[zealous basalt]

I was confused

Leí shi with shen

[meager warren]

Welp, i bet the next expacs secret is gonna be a nightmare to solve

[frozen dust]

?

Oh

I read that as "survive" for some reason

[fallow kiln]

Does anyone know how to fix this?

i have this problem both in the ptr and beta

[zealous basalt]

Are you playing Splatoon

Have you tried changing the DX engine?

[tulip sun]

Highmaul appear? :o

[hollow dock]

it's an toy that's been found before

that's about it

[tropic trail]

this is as close as I can get

[fallow kiln]

DX engine?

[dense plover]

directx version

also what operating system are you running?

[sleek cloud]

hey guys i have ptr for a bit now like 1-2 and someone toldme we could go to boralus wich i cant because by trying it says i dont have bfa prepurchase when i clearly have the deluxe edition on live, so idk how to get to it when everyone else can !!!

please help !!!!

[dense plover]

you cant

that person lied

ptr does not include bfa

it is testing prepatch only

[sleek cloud]

but people went to boralus

i see them using Scroll of Inner Truth

http://bfa.wowhead.com/item=163695/scroll-of-inner-truth

idk man, they are using that and how did they get it if they cant get to boralus

[dense plover]

are they monks?

also, im not lying to you

you cant get to boralus

even if you could teleport there, it would kick you out

[sleek cloud]

ok

but idk

a warlock was using it

[dense plover]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

they mustve gotten it some other way

you ccant get to boralus

[sleek cloud]

well HAX

[dense plover]

no

it kicks you out

you ccant get there no matter what

[hot pumice]

Question about the beta, and Veng DH. I have big problems staying alive with normal mobs in the leveling zone, and my dps hasnt changed much since I was 115. I`m 120 now, and got 285 ilvl. It was pretty good before wednesday, but after my health is dropping like crazy.

also having problems with orbs in closed up rooms. I consume them so I cant use bomb. Pretty annoying.

[dense plover]

how many mobs are you pulling?

also, 300 ilvl is the standard for lvl 120

so you are undergeared for sure

[hot pumice]

to be fair.. thats the reason I have problems with my health. in open terrain its usually fine. I get 5 orbs pretty fast.

depends. I noticed some mobs hit way harder than others. but currently in drustwar

I know im undergeared. I copied a DH I barely made to 110 on live with heiloom gear to see how hard it would get. been struggeling with gear when leveling, but Its been ok so far. the last few days I been struggeling, and I wanted to test the leveling zones before I start doing dung. Might have to gear up in dung when bfa hits live.

[dense plover]

i mean

what you should do is as follows

level through - get your 3 azerite gear pieces, 1 from each zone

then

when a quest tells you to do a dungeon

run that dungeon

finally

once you reach max level

world quests

ALL THE WORLD QUESTS

and if your rep is in a good place

you might be able to buy some max level gear

or craft it

[hot pumice]

So its a gear issue, not necessary something they changed with DH.

[dense plover]

bingo

you are way undergeared

hence your health being way lower than it needs to be

same with your dmg

also, stuff just plain hits hard

pulling more than 3 mobs out in the world as a tank can be really dangerous

[tropic trail]

So, is Anduin a paladin now?

I feel like you have to have some certificate to be a paladin but he shows signs of being one!

And no, I don't mean a literal certificate. I mean something like, being baptized perhaps?

[sharp bluff]

no still a Priest

just one in heavy armor with a sword 😑 yes it makes little sense, but they said since he is an npc he is not bound to player rules

[hollow dock]

He's not even a priest.

He's just a light user

Be aware that by lore, you are not restricted into a specific role or class. :x

[tropic trail]

Except anduin is

in before the storm

[hollow dock]

He's not tho.

[tropic trail]

where the naaru tells them

about reviving calia

[hollow dock]

Oh. Then yea.

[jade basalt]

He's a "priest" yeah.. aka a Light-wielder.. in full plate armor.. wielding a giant 2H weapon.. cough

[tropic trail]

why can't there cant be a guardian...

for the light

Like if Medivh was a priest

[hollow dock]

Because arcane and light do not function in the same way

[dense plover]

i mean

he doesnt really use the weapon