beta-ptr-spoilers

[zealous basalt]

i am blind sorry

[dense plover]

not sure which

[hollow dock]

There's no fountain in Lordaeron as fara s Im aware

is there? I haven't been there often.

mostly go in through the sewers

[dense plover]

i think its lordaeron because when she teleports in she brings a kul tiras ship with her, and she talks about how she was doing stuff at home i think

think the fountain is near where the boat lands

[hollow dock]

But like

[dense plover]

the central area where sylvanas is on the horde side once you teleport out of underground

[hollow dock]

there's no fountain

anywhere in Lordaeron

[zealous basalt]

the fuck with that girl

[dense plover]

ill find it

[hollow dock]

Again as far as Im aware.

that certainly looks more like Theramore tbh

since it matches up in both backdrop and style as the start

which is in theramore

[zealous basalt]

Probably before she teleports the boat there?

Why does Odyn's crow hate elves?

[hollow dock]

I didn't think it was only elves

I only had it trigger on my DH

[dense plover]

oh

youre right

its theramore

its still not an accident though

the boat is definitely supposed to be there

the thing where it was floating was the bug

theres even a rut on the ground

[tropic trail]

What the hell is the paraxis

[hollow dock]

It's a legion dreadnaught that occasionally strikes in areas around Argus

[zealous basalt]

BS that's what is

[hollow dock]

if you're not under cover when it fires, you will get killed

[tropic trail]

any rewards from it?

[tranquil steeple]

Specifically, in the Antoran Wastes, and that you get rid of while defending Eonar in Antorus.

[zealous basalt]

Nope

[hollow dock]

Nope. It's just a death sentence

[zealous basalt]

If you aren't covered

safe death

Just like deathwing

[hollow dock]

Yup

[tropic trail]

Looks like on the back of azeroth is another eastern kingdoms and broken isles, according to this map

im joking btw

if you think im remotely serious

[stiff vector]

mirror world c o n f i r m e d

[frozen dust]

https://i.gyazo.com/5ce52b31b239d3910899a8304371985e.png
They're not even being subtle about telling us anymore

[zealous basalt]

LOL

[strange falcon]

that's just a clever marketing scheme to shut up the people going "horde bias"

xD

[tropic trail]

never seen no hordie go alliance unless their friends convinced them

usually what happens is alliance players get fed up and go horde

then get fed up with horde and go back

cough swifty

[strange falcon]

[zealous basalt]

So

Got some epic i745 lvl 100 Gear

should i sell it

[hollow dock]

yea

[strange falcon]

was it boe

[meager warren]

I'm horde and i went alliance

[zealous basalt]

Ye

[meager warren]

I want to do Kul'tiras too

[strange falcon]

that's because you're a cuck O.O

[meager warren]

Or you're a dick

[strange falcon]

maybe 🤔

[meager warren]

Rekt

[strange falcon]

the fact i may be a dick doesnt make you any less of a cuck for going alliance though

[zealous basalt]

well

I didn't have a real reason to be either horde or allianceuntil now

[tropic trail]

do female nightborne have different animations

their standing animation looks odd

[hollow dock]

The nightborne have different idle animations

all others are shared with night elves as far as Im aware. I think they have a unique dance as well

[zealous basalt]

What is the kul tiran dance?

[neat idol]

Beta down? Cant log in

[tropic trail]

zandalari dance?

[strange falcon]

i dont think we can even see those yet

[viscid bobcat]

Nightborne have same dance

[tropic trail]

fem night elf dance looks hideous

the actual dance its based off of is alright

[viscid bobcat]

IK I hate it 😦 wish they had made it unique

[tropic trail]

but it looks so damn cartoony on night elves

[terse patrol]

male night elves in general are hideous

[tropic trail]

agreed

which is why im a human

for now

[viscid bobcat]

I like everything else about nightborne tho. Like that they're taller, tattoos are pretty and skin choices

[terse patrol]

i remember when humans were the ugliest race on the alliance

[tropic trail]

Same

[terse patrol]

deformed guinea pig faces

[tropic trail]

Im considering making my mage a Nightborne

when I faction change

[viscid bobcat]

Im maining mage nightborne in bfa woo

[terse patrol]

when are humans going to get wizard beards

[tropic trail]

when are humans going to get aragorn beards

because current short beard option

doesnt even have sideburns

also when are dwarves going to get short beards

[terse patrol]

no

dwarves dont need short beards

short beards are a shame to dwarves

[tropic trail]

how am I going to be thorin

[sullen dagger]

rys man

you are so full fo shit

[terse patrol]

The Hobbit movie’s dwarves were short humans

[sullen dagger]

alliance is the place

hordes are filthy and unkempt

[tropic trail]

yes but they're the closest thing to vrykul

and I dont like long vrykul beards

at least not on all my characters

[dense plover]

then dont have one?

you dont have to have a beard

also, thorin looked nothing like the movie version in the book

[tropic trail]

Okay but I like how he looks

Obviously I dont think like you

please dont force your opinions down my throat

I would make my dwarf have no facial hair but I dont like how it looks

I still want a beard, just not a gigantic beard

[sullen dagger]

do a gnome

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tropic trail]

dont like gnomes

second best thing to a vrykul besides a dwarf is a human

[zealous basalt]

Do a dwarf

[tropic trail]

which I have

I have dwarves

I have a dwarf shaman and a dwarf warrior

[dense plover]

like, its a video game

they have to have tropes to races to make them identifiable

also, they havent added new customization in years

although we did finally get gold eyes for blood elves

[tropic trail]

we have straight backed orcs

and golden eyes for blood elves

[dense plover]

i would rather they work more on nightborne and fix goblins and worgen

straight backs is a skeleton thing

and its the default for maghar

[tropic trail]

According to vris they are adding new customization options to the legion allied races

[dense plover]

it made sense given saurfangs model too

he uses the rigging

[tropic trail]

and they're considering updating worgen and goblins

[dense plover]

they arent adding any new customization to any allied races currently

and the plan for worgen and goblins is sometime during the 8.x patch cycle

so thats good

[tropic trail]

Vris must've been confused then

she was pretty certain about it in my opinion

[dense plover]

or you were confused

[tropic trail]

lol how

you're welcome to look it up and read through the discussion

I wasnt confused

see the bullshit I get for just wanting dwarves with short beards?

impossible to have an opinion here

[dense plover]

no

[zealous basalt]

...Stop victimizing yourself

[dense plover]

you just tried to blame someone, and im saying that you might be confused about what someone meant when they said something

because its easy to misunderstand what someone said

but then you scream victim

i dont know who to, nobody is agreeing with you saying you are a victim

[tropic trail]

Want me to give you a screenshot?

[dense plover]

yes

[tropic trail]

not to be rude vris

sorry about this

[hollow dock]

Last I heard, the Void elves, LFD, Nightborne and the Highmountain were getting more customizations

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rich apex]

...They are?

(Sidenote: Do we know if the next two character slots will be added with prepatch?)

[hollow dock]

yes thy will be

[rich apex]

Yay

[tropic trail]

and about victimizing myself. There are times when we can debate on stuff and there are times when Im just stating I like a particular thing

[hollow dock]

You'll state it not as a like or dislike

but as a fact

and we read it that way

[dense plover]

where?

[tropic trail]

This time I didnt at least

[hollow dock]

as you don't clarify

[dense plover]

i never heard about this vris

[hollow dock]

It was at the start of alpha. Might have been a rumor but I haven't heard anything to discredit it yet.

[dense plover]

i havent seen anything to prove it tho

[tropic trail]

my bad for bringing you in this

I really dont mean to be rude about that vris

[dense plover]

sorry for accusing you rys

[meager warren]

@strange falcon the only reason i went horde is cause undead are in horde and an undead was my first character.
I'm also not sure you're using "cuck" right

[dense plover]

ive never heard this tho, and there is no evidence of this on beta, so im gonna go ahead and call this an unsubstantiated rumor

[hollow dock]

My bad then for spreading it

[terse patrol]

All blizzard said if I recall is that there was potential for more customization options in the future

But I wouldnt bet on it until the main allied races are implemented

[dense plover]

^

nightborne really need it

they barely look like nightborne

[tropic trail]

I like valsharah

its like normal night elf shit

except its updated

and pretty

[terse patrol]

see: Zandalari, Kul Tirans, San’layn (maybe), Junker Gnomes (Probable due to in game questing), Vulpera (maybe) and Sethrak (maybe).

[dense plover]

they dont have any of the whimsical metal bits on their armor, their skin tons is weird, their faces are gross

[hollow dock]

The nightmare themes kinda got tired on me

sadly

thanks to the horde

[tropic trail]

I dont like the amount of red

[hollow dock]

I dont think we'll get anything not-nightmare related for night elves.

[tropic trail]

for the nightmare

[dense plover]

what?

what does that have to do with the horde?

[tropic trail]

what I said?

[hollow dock]

You guys kicked us out of darkshore, ashenvale and burned down teldrassil?...

Did you already forget that

[tropic trail]

Im just stating I dont like the amount of red in the nightmare

[dense plover]

but what does that have to do with the nightmare aesthetic

[meager warren]

I don't think i'll ever get tired of nightmare. Val'sharah is probably my second favorite location in Legion

[hollow dock]

it doesn't. Rys was talking about one thing I was talking about another

[dense plover]

word for word

"The nightmare themes kinda got tired on me
sadly
thanks to the horde"

[hollow dock]

It's one continuous thought peach

[dense plover]

yeah

[hollow dock]

[4:34 PM] Vris: I dont think we'll get anything not-nightmare related for night elves.

you forgot this bit

[dense plover]

so how does the horde doing stuff have to do with you getting sick of the nightmare

[hollow dock]

right after it

the full thought:

[tropic trail]

Suramar is basically night elf related

and naga right?

[hollow dock]

The nightmare themes kinda got tired on me. (for rys mentioning valsharah)

the next thought

sadly, thanks to the horde, we won't get anything not-nightmare related

for nelves

[dense plover]

oh

[meager warren]

The Nightmare is more related to droods than nelves tho isn't it

[hollow dock]

since we lost all the night elf stuff

[dense plover]

ok

i mean

gilneas hopefully

its two birds with one stone

[hollow dock]

I'd rather not get a half-assed night elf area

that's just me

because sure you're horde

you dont care

but I'd rather a full dedicated thing to replace what was lost

[dense plover]

i do care

thats why im suggesting gilneas

big zone

whole foresty area that could be redone

im not saying just shove them in the zone

[hollow dock]

that's still not even a candle to what we lost. ._.

[dense plover]

im saying fully redo the zone

ofc it isnt

[hollow dock]

which is why I said

[dense plover]

loss means nothing if there are no consequences

[hollow dock]

I dont want a half-assed area

for my nelves

[dense plover]

horde lost undercity

[hollow dock]

yea great

[dense plover]

we have no equivalent for that

[hollow dock]

we lost our forest and our home

[dense plover]

its the same loss of an aesthetic

[terse patrol]

i suspect we’re going to get an expansion where we find a continent on the other side of the globe.

[dense plover]

like, the fact you dont see the equivalence is showing your bias more than anything else

[hollow dock]

it's not even an aesthetic Im complaining about

it's the fact that I can't wander through the beautiful forest of ashenvale

[terse patrol]

And both sides colonize it

[hollow dock]

Never once have I ever declared myself not biased peach.

I am heavily biased, and have shown that, against the horde. You know this

[dense plover]

i mean, ashenvale isnt being phased

it literally has no changes

[hollow dock]

Always going to be reminded that somehow a bunch of corpses managed to do what an infinite army of demons couldn't

that's what was lost

[dense plover]

actually, assault isnt mostly by undead

its mainly orcs and tauren

and they werent trying to burn it

[hollow dock]

So they say

[dense plover]

sylvanas even says she wants to capture it

[hollow dock]

Again

that's before Saurfang changes the plan

[dense plover]

like, jesus christ, why would they burn it? what logical reason would there be?

you lose a valuable outpost

its a fortified outpost

[hollow dock]

Why would they blight undercity and kill their own int he process?

Denial of resources

[dense plover]

because they didnt want the humans to have it

thats easy

there are no resources in that tree, and no resources in lordaeron

[hollow dock]

We see in that picture of the burning that the Night elven fleet is coming

[meager warren]

Didn't the horde destroy the undercity before the alliance could get it back

[hollow dock]

Yes there are peach

[dense plover]

its not denail of resources, that was spite

[hollow dock]

Sylvanas even says yes

there is

resources

in teldrassil

[zealous basalt]

What we talkin bout

[hollow dock]

It's being used as an Azerite transport.

[dense plover]

she says they will use the tree to finnel azerite

she doesnt say it is being used for that

[hollow dock]

It's already being used for that

[dense plover]

she says they will use it for that

[hollow dock]

She says

"The alliance is using Teldrassil to funnel Azerite into Kalmindor*

[meager warren]

Do you have a 110 horde vris

And ok but what does it say on horde side

[dense plover]

"What IS certain is that the Alliance will use Darnassus as a safe harbor for funneling Azerite into the Eastern Kingdoms. Anduin Wrynn will build powerful new weapons, and sooner or later he will turn them upon our homelands. First he will strike at the Undercity and Silvermoon, then his gaze will fall upon Kalimdor.
"

will use

not are using

she sees the potential danger

and wants to sieze the location

[tropic trail]

Are old night elves getting the new nelf armor aswell?

[dense plover]

"By occupying Darnassus, we will control the flow of Azerite and ensure it cannot be used against us. The Alliance will dare not attack its own city for fear of harming civilians."

[tropic trail]

I'd like to see the armor on the nelves in the temple of elune

[meager warren]

Not yet rys

[zealous basalt]

By occupying it

Not blasting the shit out of it

[dense plover]

^

[hollow dock]

And port had brought in the information that there was Azerite

already at darnassus

it was being dunked into the water

or we were fishing it out

[dense plover]

source

[hollow dock]

he wasn't all that clear on that

[dense plover]

you mean the quests?

[hollow dock]

@uncut vault

[zealous basalt]

I wonder if

[dense plover]

its on the coast of darkshore

not teldrassil

[zealous basalt]

Something went wrong

Although

[dense plover]

horde goes to get some too

[hollow dock]

He said it was near teldrassil

not dark shore

[zealous basalt]

What if Zul burned the tree?

[hollow dock]

he said that it's a possible reason for the tree igniting

Zul isn't alive

[dense plover]

thats the working theory - something went wrong

zul isnt there

he is alive

[zealous basalt]

The prophet Zul

[dense plover]

hes on zandalar

[hollow dock]

Oh the prophet

right

thought of Zul'jin

my bad

[zealous basalt]

He was captured tho

[dense plover]

he leaves with talanji for stormwind following the siege

well

[hollow dock]

he was at Stormwind when this went down Mak

[dense plover]

not yet

[zealous basalt]

Ahh

[dense plover]

hes in zandalar

[zealous basalt]

I got a thought of him burning the tree

[dense plover]

following the siege he wants to head for ogrimmar with talanji

they get captured

during and prior to the burning he is on zandalar

[zealous basalt]

Because he likes pyromancy coughs

[dense plover]

he lit stormwind on fire because he saw the future

and knew that was how he would help us escape

[zealous basalt]

Yeah

[hollow dock]

by the way, there is no reason Jaina couldn't have frozen the trolls in place, and then went to deal with the fires

[dense plover]

she could have

i dont think they made it obvious how bad the fire was

[hollow dock]

drama and story must go on

[dense plover]

i imagine it was really bad

[hollow dock]

it was.

but that doesn't mean Jaina couldn't have

[dense plover]

also, if she left, loa couldve helped break us out

[hollow dock]

for like 5 seconds

frozen all of em

[zealous basalt]

He played her correctly

[tropic trail]

P L O T A R M O R

[hollow dock]

^

[tropic trail]

It's not too late

you can tell the writers

[hollow dock]

titan staff peach.

They are just omitting she has it

[zealous basalt]

But I liked that part

[dense plover]

titan staff?

[zealous basalt]

The sneaking

[dense plover]

what?

[hollow dock]

We keep telling you :x

Her staff has the power of Aman'thul in it

[tropic trail]

I mean even if she did freeze them they probably would've broke free

[zealous basalt]

Not only it

But the powers of Lei Shen

[hollow dock]

that is the power of Aman'thul

[dense plover]

oh

[zealous basalt]

O

[dense plover]

leishen

yeah

ra den

that stuff

i mean

[hollow dock]

She siphoned all of the powers from his machine into her staff.

[dense plover]

talanji has that staff that seems to work even when silenced

[hollow dock]

Which is all the stuff ra'den put in there

[dense plover]

so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tropic trail]

The Temple of Elune is absolutely beautiful

Hopefully Nelves and Undead get new Capitals

[hollow dock]

they won't

[tropic trail]

just because of the updated content

[dense plover]

they might

i wouldnt be surprised if we get gilneas and the under-whatever from kezan

and gilneas is nightelves/worgen

[tropic trail]

World of Warcraft is pulling a lot

[dense plover]

kezan is goblins/undead

[tropic trail]

They might

[zealous basalt]

Inb4 goblins move Kezan

[tropic trail]

Like I understand deathwing destroyed a lot

[dense plover]

he didnt tho

[tropic trail]

but two whole capitals being demolished?

and just not parts of it

[dense plover]

it was gallywix's fault sort of

[terse patrol]

issue with kezan:

Kezan is not Gallywix's.

[dense plover]

he found the azerite vein, and started mining, and then deathwing happened

and it set off the volcano

[strange falcon]

i believe in the book they say that after the volcano eruption and deathwing shenanigans,they found a lot of azerite there

[dense plover]

probably

[terse patrol]

Kezan is a "neutral" island owned by the Trade Princes.

[dense plover]

except it isnt

gallywix always had the most power

[hollow dock]

not since cataclysm when it was buried under a bunch of lava

[tropic trail]

May I ask, does Kul Tiras have undead related things? I'd be disappointed if it doesnt

[dense plover]

and with the horde behind him, it wouldnt be hard to go in and reclaim the under-whatever

kul tiras has undead, yeah

mostly drustvar stuff

wittches and undead horrors

[hollow dock]

^

[dense plover]

abominations

mary-shelly type monsters

[hollow dock]

Undermine peach

[dense plover]

and witcher type stuff

[hollow dock]

its the Undermine

[dense plover]

thank you

[hollow dock]

www.undermine.com

[dense plover]

undermine might still be an option

[hollow dock]

cmon now D=

[dense plover]

and considering how much theyve gone out of the way to either make the motherlode not kezan, or nothing like kezan, i wouldnt be surprised if we actually go to kezan in a patch

[terse patrol]

If the Horde ended up taking Undermine, the other cartels wouldn't be happy.

[hollow dock]

Not like the cartels can do much

If they try anything

blight

[meager warren]

If Blizz makes something inspired by the Hulk, they should set him loose on Sylvanas. To keep pounding her into the dust every time she dies

[terse patrol]

I was HOPING they'd introduce the other Cartels in BFA, but no such luck.

[hollow dock]

what cartel are we missing still

[terse patrol]

Three of them.

We know Steamwheedle and Bilgewate.

Bilgewater*

[dense plover]

actually

we do see something with cartels

the motherlode is another cartel

not sure which

[terse patrol]

er

thats not a Cartel

[hollow dock]

Bligewater, Steamwheedle and Venture co are all cartels

[dense plover]

they essentially take over the operation gallywix set forth

[terse patrol]

The Motherlode is a location being mined by Venture Co.

[hollow dock]

but there's no other cartels that have been mentioned?...

[terse patrol]

Razdunk wants to use Azerite to become rich enough to be named a Trade Prince.

Venture Co is close to becoming a Cartel, but Razdunk is probably going to die this expac

[hollow dock]

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Cartel

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Quest:Morin_Cloudstalker proof that yes. venture co. is a cartel.

[terse patrol]

Well

By Cartel, I mean

Major Cartel.

AKA, lead by a Trade Prince.

[dense plover]

oh

ok

[strange falcon]

🤔

[hollow dock]

You dont need to be led by a trade prince to be a cartel o;

[terse patrol]

I realize

[hollow dock]

In which there's still only 3 Goblin Cartel's in WoW.

[terse patrol]

I mean major cartel.

[zealous basalt]

fucking goblins

[terse patrol]

There are five trade princes.

[hollow dock]

there's no mentions of other cartels as far as the games concerned

[terse patrol]

Steamwheedle and Gallywix.

aaaand

Donais.

[hollow dock]

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Trade_prince

[terse patrol]

But we don't know the name of Donais' Cartel.

[hollow dock]

being a trade prince

doesn't mean you have a cartel

[terse patrol]

herp

[hollow dock]

Now in the RPG, yes there are 5 cartels

well

5 trade princes that rule amongst various cartels

[zealous basalt]

So

What is the meaning of a "Trade Prince"

[terse patrol]

I want some more variation though.

Gets boring seeing the same Cartels over and over.

[hollow dock]

Trade prince, or merchant princes, are known as leaders of the goblins essentially.

[tropic trail]

https://welcomeback.worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/ Can someone get this image for me?

I want to set it as my background

but im not sure how to get it

[hollow dock]

not that you get a cartel for being a trade prince, but you lead something

[zealous basalt]

The goblin from Tanaris

Is a Trade Prince?

[terse patrol]

To become a trade prince requires a lot of money, influence, etc.

And you don't get that without running a Cartel.

No. @zealous basalt

[hollow dock]

I believe he's a baron isn't he?

[terse patrol]

Those goblins work for Trade Prince Steamwheedle.

[hollow dock]

just someone under the actual trade prince

[terse patrol]

A Trade Baron.

They're below the rank of Mogul.

A Baron runs a Cartel town.

A Mogul can run numerous ones.

Mogul Razdunk runs the Venture Co Cartel, but he's not a Trade Prince.

[hollow dock]

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Marin_Noggenfogger yea he's a baron of Gadgetzan.

[terse patrol]

(Also)

To knock someone out of the spot of Trade Prince, you kinda gotta. . . well.

Get rid of them.

[hollow dock]

Kill them

in some way that doesn't link you

as Gallywix did

[terse patrol]

yep

If Razdunk could kill one of the sitting Five, he could likely become one.

[hollow dock]

or if he just gets enough wealth to compete with the others on the underground scene

[terse patrol]

imo, Gallywix probably wants to kill the Five and rule all goblins.

I think that's his plan.

[hollow dock]

To note: this is assuming that they make the 5 main Trade princes canon from the RPG

[terse patrol]

well ye

But they've been using the RPG lately.

So who knows

[hollow dock]

It's possible, just wanting that to be kept in the forefront

[terse patrol]

I do think though that Gallywix is going to betray the Horde.

[hollow dock]

I mean

[terse patrol]

And he'll be replaced by Mida.

[hollow dock]

he sorta does

already

steals from his allies

[terse patrol]

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Boss_Mida

She was going to lead Bilgewater, but Blizzard backed out of it last minute.

It was weird

[hollow dock]

they wanted ol' jastor

[terse patrol]

I think she'll return tho

Blizzard's been fond of making female leaders lately.

[hollow dock]

Uh huh

yea

sure

I'll believe that when I see it

[terse patrol]

Well, think about it.

Who else would replace Gallywix if he gets offed?

[hollow dock]

Gallywix clone

that's who

because turns out

that's not the only gallywix that exists

it was just an imposter

[dense plover]

BOOYAH

[zealous basalt]

Gally is a hoe tho

[dense plover]

got the background image

[zealous basalt]

I WILL NEVER FORGET HIM

FOR THE GNOME-GOBLIN COUPLE

[hollow dock]

share it peach! >:0

[meager warren]

if gally dies, they need to kill the clone too in that case

unless blizz makes a plot macguffin in which he stays alive

[dense plover]

Enjoy!

https://i.imgur.com/HRUfHIP.jpg

[meager warren]

is baine and alleria fighting in that

[dense plover]

its just a void elf and a highmountain

[zealous basalt]

tmw the void elf looks better there than ingame

[dense plover]

not a specific character for either

its a cool image

i spent 10 minutes and was finally able to find the actual image

[zealous basalt]

I was going to say that I wanted those daggers

But

[terse patrol]

mfw the void elf in the art has purple eyes

why dont we get that

[zealous basalt]

They are just normal daggers

[meager warren]

but they glowy

[tranquil steeple]

The axe is also a normal one, Tyrannical Gladiator

[zealous basalt]

I meant, they are already in game

Its a good art

[tranquil steeple]

Honestly, I like it that they used in-game weapons, so we don't get teased with stuff we can't get until 4 expacs later (for example)

[hollow dock]

you know what that reminds me of

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/8/8e/Night_and_Blood.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100319043253

I knew it looked somewhat familiar

[meager warren]

dat ass tho

[zealous basalt]

OOF

[tropic trail]

hm tauren and void elf one is better tho

[frozen dust]

@dense plover you tha real MVP

[tropic trail]

10/10

only problem tho

is that the HM tauren is obviously for the horde

and then there's a void elf

[hollow dock]

the Highmountain Tauren

is horde

shocking

the faction that joined hte horde is a horde warrior :p

[tropic trail]

I mean that he has horde

colors

and a horde banner

while the void elf doesnt even bother with the alliance

[tranquil steeple]

Wrong

Look in bottom right corner

[tropic trail]

damn nice catch

[tranquil steeple]

Well, not ALL the way in the corner

But it's there

[hollow dock]

It's connected to her cape even

or looks like it anyways

[tropic trail]

thats what I thought

lol

[hollow dock]

If anything the pic shows horde biase :p

horde takes up 80% of the pic

[zealous basalt]

the blue cloak?

[tropic trail]

Its cool seeing a hm shaman vs a void elf rogue

so damn cool

[hollow dock]

Shamans dont use two handed axes

[tropic trail]

except he has a totem

and it could be a tmog

who knows

[zealous basalt]

part of the environment

[hollow dock]

Yea all highmountain have a totem

that's not specific to shamans

its not even specific to HM

anyone that buys the totems can have em

[tropic trail]

I mean that totem is specifically the highmountain shaman totem

[tranquil steeple]

Could be recognition to the old days where Enhance shamans could use 2h weapons for insane burst with Windfury Weapon

[zealous basalt]

jpw dp o

[tropic trail]

its not the back totems

[zealous basalt]

how do i*

[tranquil steeple]

But, doubtful

[hollow dock]

they'd only do it for the windfury bug and mostly with Sulfuras if you managed to get it. Or some other on hit weapon hoping for procs off the weapon

[tropic trail]

huh?

[zealous basalt]

Besides

[tranquil steeple]

Bug? I wasn't aware it was a bug

[hollow dock]

It was.

[zealous basalt]

You can see rage on his face

[hollow dock]

Windfury is supposed ot only trigger 1 additional swing back in Vanilla

but it'd trigger 4-5 regardless of weapon

so 1 swing turned into 6

and each of those could proc your weapons on hit effect

[tropic trail]

Oh well

I like Highmountain Tauren regardless of class

definitely more than void elves

in fact I dislike void elves

[hollow dock]

yea yea yea. You're horde.

we get it

[tropic trail]

so this brings me joy

its not a faction thing vris

I like dark iron dwarves too

[hollow dock]

you dont have to keep regurgitating the same things over and over

[tropic trail]

Just showing my appreciation for this wallpaper

definitely a keeper

might be permanent

[hollow dock]

all official wow art is a keep for me

[tropic trail]

Void elf armor looks sick though

even though i dislike everything else

its what normal blood elves should've gotten

[hollow dock]

rolls eyes

[tranquil steeple]

I'm hoping for something Spellbreaker-esque for Blood Elves' heritage armor

[tropic trail]

I thought u dont like void elves either

arent you totally into lore?

[tranquil steeple]

What some might at this point call a recolor of the Nightborne heritage armor

[hollow dock]

I do like them. What I don't like is that they're the replacement for another race that I absolutely adore.

[tropic trail]

but they hardly have any lore

[hollow dock]

Their lore is a contiuation of the blood elf, which is a continuation of the high elf, which is a contiuation of the highborne, which is a continuation of the night elves, which is a continuation of the dark trolls.

[tropic trail]

Ill judge void elves but I wont judge high elves

which is a continuation of the first trolls

[hollow dock]

I don't judge them on lore as we don't actually have anything to judge.

they just got created. Give them time ot get fleshed

then judge

This is the first time that a race has been created with nothing behind it in this MMO as a player race

[tropic trail]

only reason I might judge playable high elves

is because void elves

cough too many elves

[hollow dock]

Which is what I was refering to on why I dislike them Rys

[tropic trail]

true

well as long as you dont judge playable vrykul I wont judge playable high elves

[zealous basalt]

2 many elves, if there were more humans, 2 many humans, more dwarves and 2 many dwarves, more orcs and 2 more orcz

[hollow dock]

I wouldn't. I even would want to make up some story for them to join the alliance.

[tropic trail]

also im alliance now

forgot to say

besides my mage

[hollow dock]

Don't believe you.

[tropic trail]

he's going horde

[hollow dock]

but OK

[tropic trail]

dont feel like faction changing

all my chars

too much money

even with the discount

[meager warren]

you could also just try deleting half your characters and making new ones for the alliance

[hollow dock]

he's all alliance already

he wanted to go horde

then realized that's several hundred dollars

[meager warren]

it's not several hundred dollars if you just delete them

[hollow dock]

he doesn't get them on horde tho

[meager warren]

wat

[hollow dock]

he wanted to transition all his alliance toons

to horde

but isn't

cuz that costs hundreds of dollars

[tropic trail]

I have two max level horde characters

three if you count my demon hunter which im going to be leveling up soon

[meager warren]

soon™

[strange falcon]

well,just level your demon hunter on horde from the start

problem solved

xD

[hollow dock]

that's what he's doing

o.o

[tropic trail]

ecks dee

[strange falcon]

ECKS DEEEEEE

[hollow dock]

EXSCH DHEEEE

[zealous basalt]

Leveling is so nice but so tiresome

[tropic trail]

@hollow dock thats what I imagine people who say XD sound like

Leveling up is nice but I dont want to end up having two characters of the same class

and I feel guilty about deleting characters

[hollow dock]

I don't

Deleted my horde toons in Cata. Haven't looked back at that decision.

[meager warren]

how are you going to see Zandalar and Kul'tiras from Horde side then? gasps

[strange falcon]

i havent had any alliance chars in the first place,and i used my 110 boost on one just to unlock allied races because OCD,and i havent touched him since

[hollow dock]

Look up videos on youtube or read the articles people publish about them?

I dont have to play horde to get the horde story

shocking I know

[tropic trail]

zandalar is on the horde side

and Im going to keep at least one character of the opposite faction

[meager warren]

alliance will be able to play on zandalar after they get kul'tiras done

[hollow dock]

the war campaign has you go on the other side

[meager warren]

but it won't be the same

[tropic trail]

Oh okay

Well as I said im staying ally

[meager warren]

why

traitor

[zealous basalt]

tmw

[tropic trail]

because it's too much for a faction change

[zealous basalt]

i restored my orc dk

[meager warren]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zealous basalt]

but i forgot that i strup him

[meager warren]

strup?

[zealous basalt]

strip

[tropic trail]

I wonder if most people play BElves because they like them

or because Horde is better and they're basically humans on the horde

Humans, aka the second most played race

also every class humans can be belves can be

[zealous basalt]

Ehh...its the stuff in the broken isles still ilvl-scaled?

[tropic trail]

yes

[sudden oak]

tbh on my case I saw fab elves and when straight to them

[zealous basalt]

Think i will survive naked?

[sudden oak]

and with time I started to like more the horde

[hollow dock]

Most people porbably played Belves because its a pretty horde race. @tropic trail

but that's changed since that was back in BC

[tropic trail]

the only pretty horde race at that

[hollow dock]

As if you look at populations, horde was ded in Vanilla

BC revived it with belves

[sudden oak]

if not because trolls and orcs still have the hunch I would play them

[tropic trail]

people dont like ugly races

[sudden oak]

and in BfA I will

[tropic trail]

people like pretty races

[tranquil steeple]

My favorite has to be Undead, actually. They got some nice animations

[hollow dock]

shocking isn't it?

[tropic trail]

yes because I like ugly races

[tranquil steeple]

And then with physical classes like Warrior and Shaman (when Enhance).. Orcs

[zealous basalt]

Welp time to try it

if i die i have died with honor

[tropic trail]

also alliance has too many slutmogs... I know, I know. Im sorry but it's true!

I know horde has slutmogs too but belf slutmogs look silly

[meager warren]

my favorite is undead but they clip through every mount so i can hardly play them

[tropic trail]

also I like belf lore and im biased

[zealous basalt]

my fave horde races are the main ones

[meager warren]

main ones? like what

[tropic trail]

vanilla ones

[meager warren]

orc?

[tranquil steeple]

Orc, Undead, Troll, Tauren

[urban dew]

Upright orcs look pretty good in some armor

[tropic trail]

either he means vanilla races

or warcraft races

like forsaken arent part of the horde in those games

I dont think

[meager warren]

orly

[tropic trail]

I know this isnt Beta related

but it would be cool

if you can customize the background of discord servers

kind of like twitter banners

and colors

[strange falcon]

tweet discord devs

[tropic trail]

I dont have a twitter

but if you guys like y'all can contact them

Just wanted to share

[swift cypress]

Hey guys, how do you get the Inquisitor title?

[neat idol]

Why is beta so unstable?

[hollow dock]

Its beta

[neat idol]

I mean, today

[hollow dock]

and we don't know yet John

[neat idol]

Its like doing heavy crush constantly

[swift cypress]

Because I met today a player with that title

Some gnomish priest or mage

[meager warren]

http://bfa.wowhead.com/title=628/inquisitor

we don't know yet unless someone who got it decides to change the wowhead article

[tropic trail]

There's one reason why frost mages would exist within the Iron Dwarven ranks: militairy and smithing purposes.

How else will you quickly cool off your weapons in a place where it's scolding hot while you can have frost mages cool the weapons quickly. Not mention the large machinery that would probably run hot too.

[hollow dock]

I mean. Why does there need to be a reason? (Outside of straight up lore breaking like LFD Spriests and Holy Velves)

You could just have been a DID that liked cooling himself down

or herself

[dense plover]

holy void elves are possible

if you were a holy blood elf

[tropic trail]

so what happened to 2h enhancement shammy?

in BFA

[dense plover]

that wasnt a thing in legion

[tropic trail]

@hollow dock I just like to figure out the reason to have certain class / spec combos within the ranks. 😃

[dense plover]

it isnt in bfa

[tropic trail]

Oh my bad I meant 2 1h shammy

[dense plover]

enh shaman use 2 1-handers

[tropic trail]

I heard rumors that they can only carry one weapon now

[dense plover]

no

[hollow dock]

So wait

The line of

"Shadow and Light can't mix"

was bullshit then peach?

wasn't shadow and light coming into contact of each other what created the universe?

@dense plover

[dense plover]

who said that line?

the void coming into contact with pure light

but shadow priests prove that light and shadow can exist together

the regular universe is a combo of light and shaadow

[hollow dock]

Locus Walker

alleria

Thousand Years of War

you even see that in Turalyon when he was pulled through a void portal, he was left writhing in pain after

A user of shadow and light sure that can exst

but a being of void

using light

[dense plover]

yeah, pure light cant exist in pure shadow

[hollow dock]

that sounds like a recipe of disaster

and void elves are void beings

just like LFD are light beings.

they're infused and interwoven with that thing

see where Im comin from now?

[grizzled sleet]

From a lore perspective void elves can't be holy priests, only shadow or discipline, but in-game you can, they can't remove a spec for a race only

[urban dew]

Light and Void are always going to wrestle for complete dominance

[hollow dock]

yea that's how I always s-

wait

Birb

when did you become Overlord?

DID YOU GIVE IN TO THE SNITTIES?!

[urban dew]

No, I merely realized that I must step into a position of absolute power, otherwise my views will never be recognized!

[uncut vault]

🐍
:🍊 🍊

[hollow dock]

All hail to the Arakkoa and their Bitties.

All hail to the Sethrak and their Snitties

[grizzled sleet]

What about Kultirinitties ?

[hollow dock]

they're normal humans dude

they already got tits

[grizzled sleet]

Kultirans are the best allied race
Change my mind

[hollow dock]

drust altered humans*

[grizzled sleet]

No

Outlaw Rogues that can play other classes*

[hollow dock]

I was correcting myself mim

still humans

but drust altered humans

[grizzled sleet]

With Kultirans you're basically playing outlaw rogues with other classes / specs

[hollow dock]

not really

outlaw had all the pirate stuff removed

[grizzled sleet]

The moment you wear the Kultiran heritage armor

you became an Outlaw rogue

[hollow dock]

good thing that I dont mog on my druids

cuz wicker cat

[grizzled sleet]

[tropic trail]

this bothers me

[urban dew]

Why

Why does Varian look like some sort of pretty boy?

Where's my battle hardened king?

[uncut vault]

clearly just a varian cosplay

[tropic trail]

all of it bothers me

from the art style

to the damn draenei about to kiss him

[dense plover]

do we have confirmation they are drust altered?

i thought that was just a theory

[grizzled sleet]

no confirmation

[dense plover]

ok

[hollow dock]

I think it's just

cute

I think its cute

[tropic trail]

the artwork?

its cringy though

its a damn draenei kissing prettyboy varian

atleast about to be

a purposely slutty one at that too

[hollow dock]

Why is it cringy?

and remember what I said

about cleavage

not being slutty

and Rys

[tranquil steeple]

Nothing to worry about, your Prettyboy Varian is Deadboy Varian

[hollow dock]

if you're only posting art to shit on it

please dont do it

[tropic trail]

its not only the girl showing too much skin

varian looks too pretty too

obviously not battle hardened

[real scarab]

If you don't like it don't keep looking at it.

[hollow dock]

^

[tropic trail]

i stopped

[hollow dock]

You just come off as petty and annoying :x

[tranquil steeple]

I'm with Vris' last statement on this one; "if you're only posting art to shit on it: please don't do it"

[real scarab]

^

[tropic trail]

thats the only time though

[hollow dock]

you're a man of habit

that much is clear

Im wanting to stop it before it becomes a habit

[tropic trail]

Yeah thats pretty true

singling me out for it though

[hollow dock]

You're the only one causing an issue

[tropic trail]

Yeah, I guess

The artstyle isnt too bad to be honest

Its mostly the part where varian is hooking up with a draenei

[hollow dock]

I get it. You don't like women. You don't like alliance. I really get it and understand it

[tropic trail]

everything else about it is alright though

[hollow dock]

but we don't have to hear it

[tropic trail]

Nonsense!

I absolutely adore moira and garona

two of my favorite characters

Im just used to old fashion

You see, Im not really up to date with fashion and what-not

so a lot of that stuff seems indecent to me

[hollow dock]

That's a flat lie. Cleavage has been a thing since the 1800s

Don't use that excuse

[tropic trail]

thats not what I mean by old fashion

[hollow dock]

It's been a thing for nearly 300 years

[tropic trail]

I live in the country so Im not used to that type of fashion

we refer to it as old fashion down here

:-)

[hollow dock]

Country women have shown cleavage on average due to it being what the 'city folk' have used when they're dressing up. When you wish to speak of old fashion trends.

I'm quite versed as I have to build D&D worlds and these details are added in

[tropic trail]

It's not like that down here

[hollow dock]

I live down here with you

[jade basalt]

Checks the channel

country women have shown cleavage

Leaves channel

[hollow dock]

Hi quiet

by quiet

it's just more Rys talk

[tropic trail]

Just dont see much of that where I live

[hollow dock]

Unless you live in every area of the South, don't proclaim it's what the South does.

[tropic trail]

I didnt though

I just said down here, which means where I live

because thats what we refer to it as

[hollow dock]

Down here refers to the Souther area

[tropic trail]

Im in the most southern area you can get

[hollow dock]

If you wish to specify it, specify it.

You aren't

Im in northern cuba

[tropic trail]

I mean in the USA

[hollow dock]

I am as souther as you can get here in the USA

Yes Northern Cuba is in the USA

(It's south florida. that's the joke)

[tropic trail]

Oh

I live on an island

in the gulf of mexico

[hollow dock]

I live in an everglade.

[tropic trail]

but yeah, Im not used to that where I live

It's really rare, though It's a pretty small island

Maybe in the schools

since a lot of teens use the internet

but other than that, I dont think so

[hollow dock]

then that's a thing for your area

[tropic trail]

mhm

[hollow dock]

it's pretty common, and even heavily enforced, here in the mainland

[tropic trail]

heavily enforced?

how so?

[hollow dock]

the fashion industry

Anything

any top

has cleavage showing

[tropic trail]

Huh

[hollow dock]

for women.

[tropic trail]

I travel to the mainland often

right now I am

[hollow dock]

Unless you get it specifically designed to not do so

it's the 'sexy' thing to do and all that jazz.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tropic trail]

In order to be sexy you must wear a dress.

Prove me wrong.

I agree

[hollow dock]

Lingre

bam

disproven

immediately

[tropic trail]

Oh god

Eh.

Men in lingerie?

Not my taste.

[hollow dock]

that's the best sight

fyi

tyvm

[tropic trail]

I would say send proof but I'm afraid of what the possibilities are

are you talking about men in lingerie or women

so confused

[hollow dock]

Both

[tropic trail]

Men personally

[hollow dock]

So do you want the proof or not

[tropic trail]

how long was legion worked on

who him or me?

[hollow dock]

Lilo

and Legion's been worked on for 2 years

roughly

maybe longer

[tropic trail]

Oh I disagree with lingerie being better

[hollow dock]

Well for the expansion

the story has been worked on since Pandaria

so like. 6

years

[tropic trail]

Broken Isles really revisits the fantasy in WoW

From Norse Mythology and the Vrykul

Sure, I'm intrigued to see proof.

to Night Elves and the ancient empire

[hollow dock]

'fantasy' in this game died in BC ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tropic trail]

The ancient night elf empire is pretty uh