#beta-ptr-spoilers

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meager warren
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Rys is being was n idiot, Vris. Don't mind him

zealous basalt
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Because canonically its bigger

tropic trail
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they have lore reasons too, it's just that it also solves the trump thing

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lmao

hollow dock
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it's not the size it's supposed to be

zealous basalt
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Same with orgrimmar

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Actually

hollow dock
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ALL OF THE WORLD NEEDS TO BURN

zealous basalt
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Let's burn WoW for not being complete

hollow dock
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IT'S ALL NOT PROPERLY SCALED

zealous basalt
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#WoWisAnIncompleteGame

hollow dock
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^

meager warren
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Smh

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Guys

zealous basalt
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#BlizzardchangetheEngine

tropic trail
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lol

zealous basalt
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#KillmyPC

tropic trail
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let me make some popcorn

meager warren
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#killmepls

zealous basalt
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#Sylvanascantmelttress

hollow dock
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You're wanting to remove teldrassil because it falls under teh same issues that the rest of the game does. It's all scaled down just to fit in it. 😆

zealous basalt
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Do you know

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How fucked we would have been

tropic trail
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Teldrassil is still in the damn game

zealous basalt
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If deathwing was scaled correctly?

tropic trail
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lmao

hollow dock
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It's not

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it's burned

tropic trail
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Yes it is

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You can go back

hollow dock
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no it isn't

tropic trail
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night elves still level there

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zidormi

zealous basalt
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#MakenewLevelExperiences

hollow dock
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If deathwing was actually the proper size he was supposed to be

zealous basalt
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#GiveZidormiabreak

hollow dock
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along with ALL the dragon aspects

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we wouldn't have won

meager warren
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If you haven't done the Teldrassil burning questline, they still live there.
But they don't after it because they're all dead

zealous basalt
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The dragons aspects are bad scaled too

hollow dock
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Oh and I know Rys

zealous basalt
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Even Vris is bad scaled

hollow dock
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and know that I will log into all my 110+ toons to swap it perm

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so I can never have to see this shit excuse for an expansion start

tropic trail
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Its war

meager warren
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It's stupid

tropic trail
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The game is called world of warcraft

hollow dock
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It's bullshit forced conflict to give the horde the win

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and Rys

tropic trail
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the damn expansion is called battle for azeroth

hollow dock
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I've told you

meager warren
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Rys, you idiot

hollow dock
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MULTIPLE TIMES

tropic trail
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lmao

hollow dock
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there's plenty of war WITHOUT the faction conflict

zealous basalt
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The war expansion is good...if they have given it a proper way to start a conflict

hollow dock
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the best years of Warcraft actually IGNORED the faction conflict

ruby star
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gotta love a bit of faction conflict

tropic trail
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I like the faction conflict tho

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lmao

meager warren
tulip sun
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I am still personally very excited for this expansion

hollow dock
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I'm happy for everything else

tropic trail
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as am I

hollow dock
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this is just a shit excuse to start it up

tropic trail
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They just dont like that their petty tree burned down

ruby star
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Same Khamnin, Warmode is awesome

meager warren
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I'm horde you doofus

hollow dock
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We don't like Lordaeron being ruined either Rys

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nice try though

zealous basalt
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They are saying

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War is good

ruby star
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Me and Mr GM and a few others went around Zandalar killing horde like adds

zealous basalt
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But the reason arent

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Reasons even

tropic trail
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i know what they're bloody saying

hollow dock
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^

tulip sun
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Cities being destroyed is fine

hollow dock
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No you dont rys

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and yea. As Kham said.

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All of it is perfectly fine. It happened with cata and we were OK with it

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it made sense, it had good lead up and a good execution

tropic trail
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some people here actually hate that

hollow dock
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Pick them out

meager warren
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You don't know what we're saying

hollow dock
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rather than speak for them

zealous basalt
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It's just...the paranoia of Sylvanas that start everything tbh

hollow dock
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^

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This whole war is started on the paranoia of a faction leader

zealous basalt
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And nothing cant be said because thats her character

ruby star
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Sylvanas is evil

zealous basalt
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And that is the bad thing

meager warren
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Sylvanas is Garrosh 2.0

zealous basalt
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Its a shitty reason well executed

meager warren
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^

zealous basalt
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If Varian was alive

tropic trail
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Well I like it

hollow dock
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As I said, the war's not what we hate. It's not even that we lose Kalmindor and the EK.

zealous basalt
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Now it would be a different way

meager warren
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You like trash in that case

hollow dock
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What we hate is the lead up and the actions that make the actions happen

tropic trail
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No need to be rude my friend

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People just like different things

zealous basalt
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Because I do believe that Varian might do what Sylv says

hollow dock
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says the person who's been rude

zealous basalt
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But fucking Manduin

meager warren
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No need to be defensive

ruby star
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i am happy if they make Slyv look really bad

zealous basalt
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Manduin of all the people

hollow dock
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Indeed Mak

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Which is another thing

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she absolutely disregards Anduins character

tropic trail
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As am I

zealous basalt
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They are acting like their characters

hollow dock
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Remember Rys what I said a few days ago

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about things are OK for a faction war

zealous basalt
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So basically we cant even get mad at them but at the same time we can

hollow dock
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as long as you dont have to omit shit

zealous basalt
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Its...

hollow dock
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to make it work

meager warren
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An alliance person being happy the horde warchief looks bad

zealous basalt
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Conflicted

tropic trail
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well I like it

zealous basalt
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I'm honestly liking Sylvanas due her character and how did it become more...crazy in Before the Storm

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But the reason of all

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That small spark that ignites the war

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Its the thing I dont like

tropic trail
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I like all of it

zealous basalt
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Unless Anduin did something that we eont know

tropic trail
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and just makes me more excited to see what happens next

meager warren
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Okay, Rys. We get it. You like bad stuff

zealous basalt
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Unless...

meager warren
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Doesn't make it any less bad

zealous basalt
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She got paranoid of him after how he played her in the book

tropic trail
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maybe

ruby star
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let Slyv be bad, we can execute her at the gates of stormwind

tropic trail
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Im alright with sylvanas being bad too

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anything to get nathanos being leader of the forsaken

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fixed that

zealous basalt
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Ah

hollow dock
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I mean

zealous basalt
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Prolly if he doesn't die for his warchief

hollow dock
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Nathanos doesn't have much of ap ersonality without Sylvanas

ruby star
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dw when Wrathion gets as big as Deathwing he will side with the Alliance and we will crush the horde

hollow dock
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he's generic when she's not around

tropic trail
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He shows signs of it

zealous basalt
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We wont live to see that moment drorith

tropic trail
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Maybe sylvanas will get turned on by her own people

hollow dock
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BFa just further pushes that he isn't even really his own person

zealous basalt
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Wrathion is what

hollow dock
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just male sylvanas to do what sylvanas wants

zealous basalt
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6?

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7?

hollow dock
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he's like 5 or 6 yea

tropic trail
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smol dragon

zealous basalt
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He is a drake atm

ruby star
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@zealous basalt feels bad man, I mean we will if we go into stasis

zealous basalt
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And we havent seen his dragon form

hollow dock
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he's a whelp atm.

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and we have

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twice in fact.

zealous basalt
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Dragon

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Not whelp

hollow dock
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Whelp

zealous basalt
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Like big

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Ror

hollow dock
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WoD you see him still in Whelp form mak

tropic trail
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he's a whelp

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smol

hollow dock
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he's only 5 or 6 years old

ruby star
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Wrathion will bring in the alliance dragon allied race, when we least expect it

hollow dock
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Dragons do not mature that fast

terse patrol
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tbh playable drakonids for alliance pls

zealous basalt
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Drakonids are dragon creations tho

terse patrol
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no

hollow dock
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not entirely Mak

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Some drakonids yes are made by dragons like Nefarion

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BUT

terse patrol
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Drakonids are mortals who are changed by dragon magic

tropic trail
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why not ogres and vrykul

zealous basalt
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Well, some sources say that they are evolved dragonsworn

tropic trail
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instead of dragons

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please

hollow dock
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Most Drakonids are Dargonsworn mortals that've been changed by the dragons they've sworn themselves to

ruby star
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Black Dragonflight allied race murloc for alliance

zealous basalt
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Black dragonflight?

hollow dock
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its both Mak.

zealous basalt
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Why black?

tropic trail
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why would the dragonflights choose sides

hollow dock
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More so the former at this point and time

terse patrol
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Drakonids can probably make more drakonids tho

ruby star
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Wrathion would make them

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pick the alliance

zealous basalt
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Wrathion said

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That he is fully blue

terse patrol
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Black drakonids pls

zealous basalt
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In MoP

hollow dock
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another thing that Wrathion said

zealous basalt
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Oof

hollow dock
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he has no plans on reviving his flight

ruby star
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he also appeard in then alliance embassy for a short time before ebing removed

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maybe they will readd him in the future as a surprise or maybe not

zealous basalt
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Well

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He is in the future

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In the deaths of chromie

terse patrol
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imagine being a qt elf but are transformed into a drakonid

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lmao

meager warren
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I can see ogres joining horde but why would the vrykul

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Join either

tropic trail
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reasons

zealous basalt
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New class

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Drakonid

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Deja vu

ruby star
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I could totally see Wrathion being a leader of a dragon allied race for alliance

meager warren
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Why

tropic trail
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i think there are two more allied races after kt humans and zandalari trolls

meager warren
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What reasons

tropic trail
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and thats it

ruby star
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though the horde would cry and Blizzard would remove them

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then we get void ants

zealous basalt
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Because he is Alliance?

terse patrol
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Wrathion’s more likely to go Alliance either way

meager warren
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Wrathion isn't alliance what

zealous basalt
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What

tropic trail
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lol

hollow dock
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Wrathion in MoP

zealous basalt
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Wrathion is

hollow dock
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did say he supports the alliance

zealous basalt
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He said that he supported the alliance all the way

meager warren
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Didn't he try to destroy it tho

ruby star
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🎉

zealous basalt
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When he was doing his whelp tantrum

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No

terse patrol
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Wrathion considers Anduin to be his bestie

ruby star
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I won't be surpised if we see wrathion come back in a major way in a future BFA patch

zealous basalt
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He said that it was the only chance that the alliance would break up horde entirely

ruby star
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I mean we try to find him in BFA already

zealous basalt
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With new manduin like model

ruby star
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If you get teh island quest

tropic trail
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what's wrathion's title again?

zealous basalt
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Black prince

tropic trail
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oh

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... oh

hollow dock
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he is the Black Prince. the 'last' living black dragon.

tropic trail
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thought it was cooler

zealous basalt
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He isn't omnipresent tho

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But still

hollow dock
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Omniscient* :p

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but yea

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he dropped the ball on tha tone

zealous basalt
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Manduin like Wrathion model

meager warren
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Why

ruby star
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I mean if we have a quest to find him in BFA perhaps he could get a major role or appear at somepoint in a later patch

zealous basalt
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For the fanservice

hollow dock
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We do fhave a quest

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to go and see him

ruby star
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yes

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I said

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that

zealous basalt
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We dont know what happens next tho

hollow dock
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after we encounter the dragons.

ruby star
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but we don't know what happens

terse patrol
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What if Azerite cures black dragons of madness and corruption?

hollow dock
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wouldn't surprise me

zealous basalt
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They arent corrupted

meager warren
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Nobody wants a copy of Anduins model for wrathion

terse patrol
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Yes

ruby star
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I hope they don't remove the quest

terse patrol
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Which is why they are collecting Azerite

hollow dock
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All the black dragons PRIOR to this were corrupted Makore

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with the exception of what's his name

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Ebonhorn

terse patrol
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What if they are using Azerite to try to purify the Flight?

meager warren
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Ebonhorn is hawt 👀

zealous basalt
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Isnt that just a

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A

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...

tropic trail
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ettin allied race when

zealous basalt
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Temporally fix?

meager warren
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Why

zealous basalt
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Or are effects permanentM

hollow dock
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not at all Mak

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Once cleansed

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you're cleansed

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You can fall back into corruption later, but you wouldn't willingly do that

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ya know?

zealous basalt
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Ohh

terse patrol
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Ressurect Onyxia and purify her woke

zealous basalt
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Again

terse patrol
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Then have Lady Prestor marry Anduin

ruby star
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would you guys hate or love the alliance getting a dragon allied race lead by Wrathion for Alliance?

terse patrol
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yas

zealous basalt
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2 old

hollow dock
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I'd hate it

zealous basalt
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I am all for playable dragons

tropic trail
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if the horde gets something equally as cool I'd be fine with it

hollow dock
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no playable dragons

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stop gimping my dragons

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babyrage

terse patrol
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I wouldnt mind playable DRAKONIDS

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not dragons

hollow dock
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^

zealous basalt
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Or drakonids

hollow dock
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Drakonids or Dragonspawn Im OK with

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gimp them all ya want

tropic trail
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or maybe we can get a darker skin tone for orcs

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Yeah?

zealous basalt
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Hero class dragonsworn with chance of becoming drakonid

hollow dock
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Don't gimp my dragons

meager warren
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I'd hate it but not because i'm horde.
Because it doesn't make sense for dragons to choose a side when they've been neutral for all this time

ruby star
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well Wrathion could change that

terse patrol
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@meager warren unless the Horde forced their hand

ruby star
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probbaly

tropic trail
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im alliance now

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whoop

zealous basalt
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Wat

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No

tropic trail
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yes

meager warren
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Like they did in Orcs snd Humans?

ruby star
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he'd beat them all to join the alliance

zealous basalt
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Go back to horde

terse patrol
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The Horde -has- enslaved dragons before

tropic trail
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Staying alliance

zealous basalt
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Well

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Not the whole horde

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Just orcs

meager warren
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They did force their hand but they're still neutral

zealous basalt
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They dont like orcs, at least the red dragonflight

tropic trail
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Guys, I copied my characters on from Live to PTR yesterday, but now my friends cannot copy their characters anymore anyone know why?

hollow dock
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I mean. they still did in cata.

zealous basalt
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Now, the rest

hollow dock
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its just a bug Arthan

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check back later

terse patrol
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I could see Alextrasza finally getting fed up with Horde war mongering, since she’s the Aspect of Life

tropic trail
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Ohh okay ty

zealous basalt
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Cares little about mortal problems

hollow dock
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she's not tho honk

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She stopped being the aspect in cata

zealous basalt
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And she wouldnt risk more of her dragonflight tbh

terse patrol
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Whatever

hollow dock
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^

terse patrol
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Red dragons still protect life

hollow dock
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especially if the canon part of the mount quest

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is that we wiped out

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all their dragons

zealous basalt
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Not really

hollow dock
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They really dont

zealous basalt
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To vris

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Its not canon

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What is canon is the assault

hollow dock
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that's why I said IF

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makore

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IF

flat drum
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BLACKROCKSTOLEMYBIKE!

meager warren
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Imo all horde druids and illidari should be fighting for the alliance this expac

zealous basalt
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But depending on the PC choice

hollow dock
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Yea I know

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but there's always 1 canon choice

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when its multi choice

zealous basalt
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They would react to him in da next part

hollow dock
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so IF the canon one is that we wipe dout the dragons there

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she certainly wouldn't risk more

tropic trail
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Also Murderous

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about vrykul choosing sides

zealous basalt
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I still think

meager warren
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What

terse patrol
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Horde Druids: “all his environmental catastrophe we’re doing sure is good for nature and the planet...”

zealous basalt
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That they being unable to lay eggs because power is ridiculous

tropic trail
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the hm tauren chose a side tbh

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so

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also vrykul have connections to humans

meager warren
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Right, Honk?

hollow dock
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it is mak

meager warren
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The HM tauren chose a side 'cause big plothole

hollow dock
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but fuck it they made it as canon as possible

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from that tweet in Cata

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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it's not really a plothole arson

tropic trail
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how were the nelves fucked in cata anyways

zealous basalt
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Just retcon it

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There is nothing to lose

hollow dock
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Uh

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ASHENVALE

meager warren
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Eh

hollow dock
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Did you not see all of that?

tropic trail
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No

hollow dock
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just suddenly the orcs are able to steamroll into their lands?

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with no retaliations?

meager warren
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It doesn't really make sense imo

hollow dock
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they already made it in game Makore

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they can't retcon it anymore sadly. :(

tropic trail
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guys, guys

hollow dock
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and with chronicles solidifying it. It's just dead.

meager warren
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It might make sense if blizzard knew how to write

zealous basalt
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They have retc9ned lots of things b4

tropic trail
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We're not talking about the important stuff

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how the new troll leader

zealous basalt
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Seriously tho

hollow dock
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Yea that's the point of chronicles

tropic trail
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should get a model update

zealous basalt
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Who is the one that writes that?

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Give me a name

hollow dock
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all of Blizzards writers

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there's no 1 author to it

zealous basalt
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Okay

meager warren
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All of them

zealous basalt
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I love you all

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Dont go to blizzcon this year

hollow dock
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Don't make that joke

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that's not a funny joke to make

meager warren
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I don't plan on it but what vris said

terse patrol
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^

tropic trail
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what happened

hollow dock
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that's seriously fucked up

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Makore just implied they were bombing or shooting up blizzocn

tropic trail
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y'all turn on eachother so quick

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fucked up tho

hollow dock
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Yes if you make a fucked up joke

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I call you out on it

zealous basalt
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Would you like me to be specific and target just the writers?

hollow dock
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because its fucked up

tropic trail
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I have a meme for this

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;-)

zealous basalt
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Or 'writters'

meager warren
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Vris, you get concerned about fucked up jokes now when u used to make them.
I'm proud of you

zealous basalt
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#CalledOut

hollow dock
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I never made a 'shooting' joke

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not once

meager warren
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No

tropic trail
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Okay so I dont actually have the meme on me but it goes like this.
Everyone jokes around about school shootings and what-not - I sleep
Celebrity dies and one person makes a joke - someone lost their life that's fucked up

zealous basalt
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That's moral for you

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Thankfully I dont have such thing as a censor bar

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You like it or not

hollow dock
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I dont care if you censor yourself

tranquil steeple
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I'll make jokes without direct real life implications

zealous basalt
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They keep doing ridiculous things with no backsupport

meager warren
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I don't either but i do try not to say stupid shit

hollow dock
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have some fucking decency.

zealous basalt
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I am decent

tropic trail
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this chat went from 100 to 0 real quick

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lmao

zealous basalt
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Do you see me writing really bad jokes all the time?

tropic trail
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thats my job

tranquil steeple
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Those numbers should be the other way around, but yeah, it really did.

meager warren
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If you think it was ever 100 yoh must be new

tropic trail
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#unfunny

zealous basalt
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I save the best for when its time

meager warren
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So, never?

ruby star
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Garrosh did nothing wrong

zealous basalt
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But if you want apology for triggering you all

tropic trail
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garrosh did nothing wrong

zealous basalt
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bows

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Apologies

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Princess

ruby star
gaunt helm
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will we see any of Thrall this Expac?

tropic trail
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yes

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a little bit

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I think

gaunt helm
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what is he doing?

tropic trail
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Dont remember

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sowwy

zealous basalt
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Fluttering around

ruby star
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Going back to where he belongs

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in a swamp

zealous basalt
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What r u doing

meager warren
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Hopefully drowning himself

tropic trail
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rude

zealous basalt
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I am surprised that blizzard hasnt done a shrek meme already

tropic trail
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im happy

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because thats shitty

meager warren
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You're shitty

zealous basalt
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It's not that bad

gaunt helm
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Whos that Big Octopus old gold?

meager warren
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Yogg i think

hollow dock
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its not an old god

tropic trail
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N'Zoth?

hollow dock
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it's just a depiction of something form the deep.

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most likely a C'thraxxi

gaunt helm
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@tropic trail Will we fight him?

hollow dock
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from*

tropic trail
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We dont know yet

hollow dock
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Unknown if we'll fight him yet

tropic trail
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but by the looks of it

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probably

hollow dock
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We do know that his prison has been breached

tropic trail
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Its hinting at it and a lot of the events look to be leading up to it

hollow dock
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thanks to the sword stabbing: All titan facilities have critical containment failures

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you can thank illidan for that btw

zealous basalt
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Suspicious

ruby star
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Illidan ❤

tropic trail
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illidan should've been the night elf leader

ruby star
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He did a good job

tropic trail
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leans back in chair

hollow dock
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Illidan kileld our planet

zealous basalt
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Thanks illidank

hollow dock
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that's not a good job

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killed*

ruby star
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it's great

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it means more horde die

tropic trail
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hey

hollow dock
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we die too

zealous basalt
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It was a matter of time tho

ruby star
#

And?

hollow dock
#

We're the idiots that LIVE on this planet

ruby star
#

at least we die killing horde

zealous basalt
#

It is better sooner or later

#

Than*

tropic trail
#

garrosh did nothing wrong

ruby star
#

I just feel bad for all those poor murlocs

hollow dock
#

#garroshdidafewthingswrong

tropic trail
#

MRGLGLGL

#

vris ruined it

meager warren
#

I see that guardians reference and raise you 200 gold

tropic trail
#

always

zealous basalt
#

I'm surprised that there werent earthquakes

tropic trail
#

damn

ruby star
#

Make Azeroth great again my dudes

zealous basalt
#

Or tidal waves due the plunging

hollow dock
#

that's part of the meme

meager warren
#

#garroshdidafewthingswrong

hollow dock
#

#GarroshDidNothingWrong

tropic trail
#

it is 0Ld g0Dz day my dude

meager warren
#

Oof

zealous basalt
#

Taran Zhu as horde leader

hollow dock
#

#GarroshDidAFewThingsWrong

tropic trail
#

stop

hollow dock
#

Zhu hates both sides

ruby star
#

Illidan will one day return to crush Slyvanans skull

gaunt helm
#

I really wanna Fight whats her name

hollow dock
#

#GarroshDidAFewThingsWrong

gaunt helm
#

IN BFA

meager warren
#

#GarroshDidAFewThingsWrong

tropic trail
#

sylvanas?

gaunt helm
#

Aszhara

zealous basalt
#

Illidan will return riding Sargeras' back

tropic trail
#

We will fight azshara

hollow dock
#

She's our second raid boss

#

either second to last boss

#

or last boss

zealous basalt
#

"This is for Prince Farondis"

west relic
gaunt helm
#

Illidan isnt coming back rn

ruby star
#

I'm so glad Khadgar gone

tropic trail
#

What if sylvanas gets turned on by her own people

zealous basalt
#

Dadgar?

tropic trail
#

eating away at her flesh

#

yummy

zealous basalt
#

...rotten flesh

gaunt helm
#

Suarfang is joining the alli

tropic trail
#

undead dont care

meager warren
#

I doubt Sylvanas is ever going to die

tropic trail
#

they have a burning hatred

#

in their hearts

#

they'll eat rocks if they have to

ruby star
#

Slyvnanas would get rekt by Illidan

zealous basalt
#

Let's talk about a better topic

#

Foos

meager warren
#

Undead aren't given any choice so we don't know thst they don't care

zealous basalt
#

Food

#

What's the best cuisine in WoW

meager warren
#

Ew food

gaunt helm
#

Anduin can kill Sylvanas

zealous basalt
#

Oof

#

I saw that

tropic trail
#

saw what

meager warren
#

Good

ruby star
#

Can't wait for Illidans return in the future, He will from now on dedicated himself tot he alliance

gaunt helm
#

Anduin is a Pally and a Priest

ruby star
#

and Crush every horde leaderss skull

zealous basalt
#

Holly illidan

#

Holy*

ruby star
#

with Sargereas on a leash

zealous basalt
#

Holy Dankgeras

gaunt helm
#

Do u guys Main alli?

zealous basalt
#

I want a ship expansion too pls blizz

#

I do but I'm all for both stories

ruby star
#

New Alliance allied race. Sargaeres + Illidans children

tropic trail
#

the Alliance is going to get corrupted by the 0҉͓̟L̴̦̟d̨̞̦ ͙͇͎g̳̺̹0̖̰͘D̟̳̕z

west relic
#

Alliance > Horde

gaunt helm
#

I Main alliance

ruby star
#

I main alliance, I'd never join the horde spits

gaunt helm
#

But i main a Warrior so i have a Orc warrior and a Human warrior

zealous basalt
#

O

gaunt helm
#

lol

zealous basalt
#

I cant stand repeating classes

#

Idk why

gaunt helm
#

I just boosted the Orc one

tropic trail
#

guys guys

zealous basalt
#

Ah

tropic trail
#

just hear me out

gaunt helm
#

I want Genn to die plz

#

I hate Worgens

ruby star
#

I want all the Vulpera to die

#

fucking furries

meager warren
#

I want a ship expac too.
I ship Drorith and Sylvanas

zealous basalt
#

Kek

tropic trail
#

Anduin turns into a shadow priest and gets corrupted. Void Elves go mad crazy. Genn dies because he cant save the alliance. Alleria's dream comes true and she is the new old god or whatever

zealous basalt
#

And?

tropic trail
#

0҉͓̟L̴̦̟d̨̞̦ ͙͇͎g̳̺̹0̖̰͘D̟̳̕z expansions boys

zealous basalt
#

New topic on old god expansion

ruby star
#

@meager warren I think you got the wrong sister, you mean Alleria

zealous basalt
#

Go back to the Black Empire

meager warren
#

We've had old god expacs already

tropic trail
#

alliance becomes corrupted

zealous basalt
#

Classes empowered with Void

tropic trail
#

and the horde, being the nice boyz, purifies the alliance

meager warren
#

No i mean sylvanas, drorith

tropic trail
#

and saves them

gaunt helm
#

Void elfs take over

zealous basalt
#

And the main color is purple

#

Not green

tropic trail
#

anyone on board with this?

gaunt helm
#

Who is the the leader of void elfs

tropic trail
#

alleria

meager warren
#

Not me

zealous basalt
#

Illidan

tropic trail
#

and some other void elf

gaunt helm
#

Alleria and Sylvanas are sisters

#

soo

meager warren
#

What

#

They hate each other

tropic trail
#

Sylvanas feels remorse and purifies the alliance from the 0҉͓̟L̴̦̟d̨̞̦ ͙͇͎g̳̺̹0̖̰͘D̟̳̕z corruption

#

and saves alleria

#

but she sacrifices herself

gaunt helm
#

@meager warren They are Sisters

meager warren
#

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) o rly

#

....

gaunt helm
#

Windrunner

meager warren
#

And?

gaunt helm
#

They might fight eachother hmmm

tropic trail
#

Guys, guys

#

The alliance gets corrupted

#

Anduin tries to do his light thing

#

he becomes a shadow priest

#

corrupted

#

void elves go mad crazy

#

and alleria becomes the old god like her dream said

#

sylvanas feels remorse and sacrifices herself to save her sisters

#

like she did in the comic a little

zealous basalt
#

But

#

Anduin is really stable rn

meager warren
#

She'd be a parody of an old god wnd not an actual old god unless blizz has forgotten that as well

tropic trail
#

Yes but he would do anything for the alliance

#

and he tries saving alleria

#

but she's too strong

#

and he becomes corrupted

#

oh and something with jaina being involved

#

J'aina

#

just a theory

#

would y'all be ok with this theory becoming true?

#

Only sylvanas ends up dying

#

Anduin becomes cleansed

#

and he goes on the lead the army of the light

gaunt helm
#

My Maghar orc is 115 lol plz be 120

zealous basalt
#

You and your theories

#

I stg

tropic trail
#

its good tho

meager warren
#

No it's not

tropic trail
#

finally the alliance suffers

meager warren
#

....

#

Wow ok

tropic trail
#

horde suffers all the time

#

and what

#

varian dies?

meager warren
#

Horde suffers all the time because they're fucking dumbasses

gaunt helm
#

Voljin lives one xpac lol

zealous basalt
#

Lol

gaunt helm
#

Like bye bye

tropic trail
#

true

#

let the alliance suffer for once

zealous basalt
#

We do suffered b4

meager warren
#

Why

zealous basalt
#

Thabks to horde

tropic trail
#

in the end sylvanas has a change of heart and sacrifices herself anyways

zealous basalt
#

They destroyed our lifestyles

#

Our culture

meager warren
#

Source?

gaunt helm
#

Wrynn is king till legion lol

tropic trail
#

Its a theory

zealous basalt
#

Who?

#

Me?

tropic trail
#

I said earlier its a theory

meager warren
#

That has no basis in fact

#

So not theory

tropic trail
#

yes it does

#

the windrunner comic

#

the vision that alleria has

#

or dream

#

whatever the hell it is

#

dark mirror

#

the events in BFA

#

everything else though is just speculation

meager warren
#

"Anduin becomes cleansed" implies he's corrupted.
"Sylvanas is the onky ond to die" implies she will

#

No basis in fact

zealous basalt
#

But anduin is

tropic trail
#

Anduin needs to show his shadow side

zealous basalt
#

He is corrupted by

#

slowly turn around

gaunt helm
#

Zandalr is a nice play

frozen dust
#

He's human, that's close enough

zealous basalt
#

Love

tropic trail
#

and sylvanas shows that she cares about her sisters in the comic

#

and lets say if alleria does become corrupted

#

which she might because the dream

#

and the rest of the alliance goes down with her

#

its up to the horde to either abandon them, or save them

meager warren
#

Anduin is not

gaunt helm
#

I love that they add hipos to this game

tropic trail
#

and sylvanas will have a change of heart and sacrifice herself

#

and then there'll be another windrunner comic

#

after the events

meager warren
#

Why would she do that when it's the complete opposite of everything she's done since her inception?

tropic trail
#

also in dark mirror there's still a "human" side to her deep down

#

beneath all that evil

#

she's still a little alive

#

like nathanos

meager warren
#

She's not human tho lol

tropic trail
#

you know what I mean by "human"

#

dont play stupid

meager warren
#

No i don't

tropic trail
#

human like having feelings and remorse and shit

#

instead of pure evil

ruby star
#

Soooooo

#

I have no sub

#

but

#

I can play on my level 110

#

character

meager warren
#

She might have "remorse" and other stuff but it comes too late

#

She's already sunk herself into the hole

#

Too far

tropic trail
#

well even though it's totally out of character for her, she'll have a change of heart

#

breaking these damned chains that undeath put upon her

meager warren
#

Source?

tropic trail
#

its a theory dude

meager warren
#

Based off what

tropic trail
#

theories dont 100% always have sources

#

based off the windrunner comic

#

and the book

#

book I mean by dark mirror

meager warren
#

They should. Otherwise it's not a theory but conjecture

tropic trail
#

y'all try to hard to shut down every little thing I say

#

its just a theory

#

chill out

#

never said it would happen

#

just my idea on what might happen

zealous basalt
#

Wrong words mate

tropic trail
#

I forgot I had to refer to it as a "conjecture"

#

since every little thing here has to be strict

frozen dust
meager warren
#

Words mean things, my dude

tropic trail
#

talkin to me?

#

I dont enjoy having to be very specific with what I say just to have a discussion here

meager warren
#

Nobody does but if ya don't do it, nobody takes you seriously

tropic trail
#

In this chat, yeah

#

in other servers I dont have to

hollow dock
#

I mean. Rys.

#

In this chat we like to actually dissect, talk and further expand upon theories.

#

To do so, you don't give much for us to work on with "Oh well I have no proof its just what I think"

tropic trail
#

Except its a theory

#

and Im ok with criticism

#

except y'all seem to try to criticize every little thing

#

and y'all joke around about me here a lot, I get that, and when I say a thing about peach he gets angry af

hollow dock
#

Yes that's how theory sharing works

tropic trail
#

I just dont get it

hollow dock
#

We take a look at the whole theory

#

and see if it makes sense.

meager warren
#

Every Sylvanas hater or whatever has said that exact "theory" because they're desperate for it to be so.

tropic trail
#

Its good ima just stop presenting theories here, I work better with other servers

meager warren
#

Just like everyfanboi of hers has said she'll be redeemed

tropic trail
#

love me some sylvanas

hollow dock
#

Like an example of a theory that we discuss a lot about: "I think G'huun was created by the titan constructs specifically to devour the Old Gods out of Azeroth."

dense plover
#

i just want her to step down

hollow dock
#

We then present reasonings, logic and evidence

dense plover
#

no redemption, no death

hollow dock
#

then everyone in the chat discusses

meager warren
#

I want to kill her

dense plover
#

a good middle ground

hollow dock
#

you only do 1 part of the work and refuse to do the rest so we don't really have much more input than shooting your theories down

dense plover
#

yeah the ghuun theory we have is based on voice lines, datamined stuff, art, blizzcon, and a bit from chronicles

tropic trail
#

never seen any talk about ghuun unless I started it

dense plover
#

its a theory from when the vo was first added

hollow dock
#

Peach and I have been discussing the theory ever since the VO was added

meager warren
#

When did you join this server?

dense plover
#

ghuun is essentially just a mouth and stomach

meager warren
#

Rys

dense plover
#

and was made by the titans, they didnt intend to make an old god, so what was its original purpose?

#

probably something to remove the old gods

hollow dock
#

He looks like one too. HIs dialogue backs up that claim.

dense plover
#

^

#

it will probably never be revealed, but its still a fun theory

tropic trail
#

ok but its not a nice discussion when everyone starts namecalling

#

fyi

meager warren
#

If you think we're going to be nice you havent been here long enough

hollow dock
#

The titans know how dangerous they are, so they had to be desperate to try anything with Old god blood and flesh. Which makes sense in finding a way to remove the old gods permenately and safely. It'd also put up as a good reasona s to why no other titan facility tried this

tropic trail
#

didnt say anything about being nice

#

just dont have to namecall

meager warren
#

No we don't but we absolutely love it. Turns us on when our prey squirms

zealous basalt
#

So it gone wrong? Ghuun?

hollow dock
#

Yup

#

It's a titan experiment gone wrong

zealous basalt
#

that's why it is ugly?

hollow dock
#

We don't know the why but it's very likely that it was made specifically to eat out the other old ogds.

#

gods*

dense plover
#

thats why it isnt a mass of tentacles

#

it looks completely different from all the other old gods

hollow dock
#

It's just a mouth with a stomach attached =3

dense plover
#

when we kill it in uldir, we will ACTUALLY kill it

hollow dock
#

Which is basically what all worms are.

dense plover
#

it doesnt have more mass under the earth

#

that body is the whole thing

zealous basalt
#

Does the beta say why it gone wrong?

hollow dock
#

Nope

#

That's why we made the theory. o; to bridge the why

meager warren
#

What theory

hollow dock
#

G'huun was made to eat up the Old Gods from inside of the planet outwards

meager warren
#

Ooh

hollow dock
#

Since it looks like a proper worm, a mouth attached to a stomach, all the eating lines it has in it's dialogue

zealous basalt
#

can imagine it making its way to the old gods

#

while they are chilling

#

and sudden munch

hollow dock
#

That's the idea.

zealous basalt
#

But where is the other end

meager warren
#

Can't wait for BfA even tho the start is shit

hollow dock
#

That body is the full body

dense plover
#

what other end?

hollow dock
#

there is no more to it

zealous basalt
#

you know, there is a mouth where the food enters

dense plover
#

the theory is the stomach would contain the old god bits

#

no exit

zealous basalt
#

ohh

dense plover
#

so it could seal the corruption

#

but it became corrupted

hollow dock
#

or gained sentience

zealous basalt
#

What if ate something and corrupted it from within?

hollow dock
#

one or the other

#

That might have happened

#

but we don't know what went down for it to go berserk.

zealous basalt
#

A ultra spicy tako

summer cobalt
#

a midnight at Taco Bell

zealous basalt
#

Damn

meager warren
#

The real question is, what if something eats it 🤔

hollow dock
#

I think the idea is that it just sits inside of it

#

and it grows.

meager warren
#

Oof

zealous basalt
#

and assimilates it?

hollow dock
#

or maybe those in Uldir didn't get that far before g'huun went on a rampage

zealous basalt
#

Well, it's lair doesn't seem all titanic

hollow dock
#

it's just made to contain it

#

so it's very likely that either right as it was brought ot life or sometime after, it gained sentience and linked itself to the void and went berserk and they had to seal it up

zealous basalt
#

hopefully we get more information as time proceeds

dense plover
#

actually, ghuun's lair is definitely a titan chamber

#

its just filled with disease and ffungus

hollow dock
#

Im hopeful, but I won't hold my breath for it

dense plover
#

its a metal chamber behind all of that toxic goo

hollow dock
#

think it like the uh

#

Xenomorph hives

#

G'huun and whatever it created coated the metal and walls to make living more comfortable for it

zealous basalt
#

Mini G'huuns?

meager warren
#

Mini xenomorphs

zealous basalt
#

Oh neptune

hollow dock
#

Well. that one bleeds into a new theory that's sort of canon but not entirely.

#

The Old God forces are made by dividing up the Old Gods biomass.

#

So as G'huun consumes stuff, it gains more biomass to separate and continue to make more old god forces such as C'thrax and Faceless Ones

zealous basalt
#

Think titans would go that far to create one eater disguised of an old god perfectly?

hollow dock
#

In an effort to solve the old god problem

#

yes

#

but they'd only do it once. No other titan facility has tried this so its safe to say that Uldir is the first one that did

#

and no one else did because they know the outcome

zealous basalt
#

Hmm

#

I wonder if Uldir is the first titan facility

meager warren
#

When making a old god goes wrong

hollow dock
#

I don't think it's the first facility, but I do think this is the first facility that tried to experiment on the Old God blood

#

Actually we know the first Facility

#

the Well of Eternity

zealous basalt
#

Accidental facility tho

hollow dock
#

The Well wasn't accidental

#

it was made purposefully to seal the wound Aman'thul made

zealous basalt
#

Wasn't the well the open wound of it?

terse patrol
#

That one naga siren who loved that gnome needs to reunite with her love @hollow dock

zealous basalt
#

I thought the elves made all the fancy stuff near the wound

hollow dock
#

They made the city

#

However

#

when the dark trolls went into the facility that surrounded the well, they found the Kaldorei langauge and the name 'Kalmindor' that described azeroth

#

so the facility was made first before the night elves existed

zealous basalt
#

I didn't know that

hollow dock
#

another thing to note is that the Temple of Elune, now known as the Tomb of Sargeras, was built ontop of a titan facility.

#

The purpose of this facility before Aegwynn sunk it is unknown

zealous basalt
#

Was the portal there though?

dense plover
#

no

#

the facility below the temple is an unknown

#

my theory is it is part of the locks that imprison nzoth

#

its in approximately the right place

#

and lines up with the 5 keys thing

#

it also explains why the naga are there

strange falcon
dense plover
#

oh, thats why its free

#

cool

zealous basalt
#

i wonder

hollow dock
#

I love that velf vs HM tauren pic btw

zealous basalt
#

if the death knights will break their connection with the lk after legion

hollow dock
#

I don't actually think we can

#

My theory is this: The deathknights are, and always will be, bound to the Helm of Damnation. As long as the Lich King exists, the deathknights will be bound to his will.

#

Now you might ask: "Well why did Sylvanas and the Forsaken free themselves? Why did the Val'kyr?"

#

Well I might be able to explain that.

#

For Sylvanas and the Forsaken, they weren't risen by the Lich King, they were risen by Arthas. Before he could ascend to the Throne. As for the Val'kyr, Arthas either created them or had bound them to his will. Which means not resurrecting them and tying them to the helm.

#

For us third generation deathknights, we are risen directly by Arthas. Bound directly to his helm.

zealous basalt
#

So when Sylvanas and her Val'kyrs met, they changed masters and were tied towards her?

hollow dock
#

Yup

#

It's even depicted as such, that the Val'kyr willingly submit themselves to Sylvanas' will.

zealous basalt
#

I wasn't before cata

#

How were the new Forsaken made?

hollow dock
#

New forsaken were made, as of cataclysm, by none other than the Val'kyr.

#

The 7 greater valkyr that bound themselves to Sylvanas created lesser Val'kyr that acted as her necromancers and made more Forsaken

zealous basalt
#

And why was she in need of more?

hollow dock
#

Forsaken can't reproduce.

#

They're a faction of undead. They can't replenish their numbers through the living conventional means

#

if they wish to keep a hold of their lands and keep in the fighting, they need more.

zealous basalt
#

So what you are telling me is

#

That all the dead lordaeronians are either forsaken or simple undead now?

dense plover
#

yes

zealous basalt
#

There aren't more dead ppl in Lordaeron?

dense plover
#

no

hollow dock
#

Maybe not ALL

#

but Most

dense plover
#

^

#

99.9%

zealous basalt
#

that's rough

hollow dock
#

Yea. A very small percentage actually managed to get out

#

Those that did survive blended with Stormwind or the refugees of Dalaran

zealous basalt
#

I see now why she needs more dead

hollow dock
#

You can't make forsaken out of the living. You need them to die.

#

What's the best way to get mass amounts of the dead?

#

A world war.

zealous basalt
#

Are you theorizing that her apparent paranoia is just an excuse?

hollow dock
#

it's why she's been promoting this war. Going behind the backs of the horde and doing her best to make the horde Totalitarian under her rule.

#

Oh no the paranoia is apart of it

#

but she stands to gain so much more. It's just a bonus in addition to her paranoia

zealous basalt
#

Hmm, makes sense

hollow dock
#

When you read Before the Storm, assume all her words are lies except with Nathanos

#

Nathanos is the only one she trusts and thus wouldn't have much reason to lie to him

zealous basalt
#

I knew that she didn't like the rest of the horde

#

But she does underestimate the Alliance a lot

hollow dock
#

She underestimates them but also overestimates them

#

Anduin does not want war. He wants peace.

dense plover
#

she does genuinely care about the forsaken though

#

i mean, the way she cares is twisted

hollow dock
#

But she insists that he's building for war and to attack the horde

dense plover
#

but she does care

hollow dock
#

It's like those girls that hurt you or kill other people that look at you.

#

they do it for the loves.

#

even if its sick and twisted

zealous basalt
#

It makes me think now that she knows that, the moment the alliance goes into serious mode, they will lose

hollow dock
#

that's always been the horde's issue

zealous basalt
#

Or at least survive with little

hollow dock
#

the moment that the alliance goes on the offensive, the horde can't stay together against them.

#

that's why, ever since garrosh, the horde has had to rely on surprise attacks and brutal strategies.

zealous basalt
#

I don't think I haven't seen the Alliance that reckless before than in the Siege

hollow dock
#

Siege wasn't really reckless of the alliance. That's just an invasion carried out in fantasy style

zealous basalt
#

Where did the boat come from tbh

hollow dock
#

which boat

#

Oh you mean the Lordaeron thing

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that's a graphical bug I'm like 99% sure

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Since where that boat is, is where Jaina is supposed to be standing

zealous basalt
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It could be funny if a boat launched itself from the shore to hit the wall

dense plover
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no

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not a bug

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she literally teleports the boat

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with people on it

hollow dock
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Oh she does?

dense plover
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into the side of the keep

zealous basalt
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...

dense plover
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its in the comic

zealous basalt
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That girl is insane

dense plover
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we dont have the cutscene yet

hollow dock
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which comic? I don't remember that

dense plover
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last page or two of the jaina comic

tulip sun
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How does a wooden boat destroy a stone wall o.O

dense plover
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its not wood

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its metal

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mostly

tulip sun
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O

hollow dock
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there's no boat there peach

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that's just jaina standing in Kul tiras

zealous basalt
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i don't see a boat

dense plover
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1 sec

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unless this is theramore

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which is also possible

hollow dock
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that's Kul tiras

dense plover
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no

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it isnt

zealous basalt
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wait

dense plover
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theres no fountain at that area

zealous basalt
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i see the boat

hollow dock
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Oh wait

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I see it now

dense plover
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its either lordaeron or theramore