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Because canonically its bigger
it's not the size it's supposed to be
ALL OF THE WORLD NEEDS TO BURN
Let's burn WoW for not being complete
IT'S ALL NOT PROPERLY SCALED
#WoWisAnIncompleteGame
^
#BlizzardchangetheEngine
lol
#KillmyPC
let me make some popcorn
#killmepls
#Sylvanascantmelttress
You're wanting to remove teldrassil because it falls under teh same issues that the rest of the game does. It's all scaled down just to fit in it. 😆
Teldrassil is still in the damn game
If deathwing was scaled correctly?
lmao
no it isn't
#MakenewLevelExperiences
If deathwing was actually the proper size he was supposed to be
#GiveZidormiabreak
If you haven't done the Teldrassil burning questline, they still live there.
But they don't after it because they're all dead
The dragons aspects are bad scaled too
Oh and I know Rys
Even Vris is bad scaled
and know that I will log into all my 110+ toons to swap it perm
so I can never have to see this shit excuse for an expansion start
Its war
It's stupid
The game is called world of warcraft
the damn expansion is called battle for azeroth
I've told you
Rys, you idiot
MULTIPLE TIMES
lmao
there's plenty of war WITHOUT the faction conflict
The war expansion is good...if they have given it a proper way to start a conflict
the best years of Warcraft actually IGNORED the faction conflict
gotta love a bit of faction conflict
I am still personally very excited for this expansion
I'm happy for everything else
as am I
this is just a shit excuse to start it up
They just dont like that their petty tree burned down
Same Khamnin, Warmode is awesome
I'm horde you doofus
Me and Mr GM and a few others went around Zandalar killing horde like adds
i know what they're bloody saying
^
Cities being destroyed is fine
No you dont rys
and yea. As Kham said.
All of it is perfectly fine. It happened with cata and we were OK with it
it made sense, it had good lead up and a good execution
some people here actually hate that
Pick them out
You don't know what we're saying
rather than speak for them
It's just...the paranoia of Sylvanas that start everything tbh
And nothing cant be said because thats her character
Sylvanas is evil
And that is the bad thing
Sylvanas is Garrosh 2.0
Its a shitty reason well executed
^
If Varian was alive
Well I like it
As I said, the war's not what we hate. It's not even that we lose Kalmindor and the EK.
Now it would be a different way
You like trash in that case
What we hate is the lead up and the actions that make the actions happen
Because I do believe that Varian might do what Sylv says
says the person who's been rude
But fucking Manduin
No need to be defensive
i am happy if they make Slyv look really bad
Manduin of all the people
As am I
They are acting like their characters
So basically we cant even get mad at them but at the same time we can
as long as you dont have to omit shit
Its...
to make it work
An alliance person being happy the horde warchief looks bad
Conflicted
well I like it
I'm honestly liking Sylvanas due her character and how did it become more...crazy in Before the Storm
But the reason of all
That small spark that ignites the war
Its the thing I dont like
I like all of it
Unless Anduin did something that we eont know
and just makes me more excited to see what happens next
Okay, Rys. We get it. You like bad stuff
Unless...
Doesn't make it any less bad
She got paranoid of him after how he played her in the book
maybe
let Slyv be bad, we can execute her at the gates of stormwind
Im alright with sylvanas being bad too
anything to get nathanos being leader of the forsaken
fixed that
Ah
I mean
Prolly if he doesn't die for his warchief
Nathanos doesn't have much of ap ersonality without Sylvanas
dw when Wrathion gets as big as Deathwing he will side with the Alliance and we will crush the horde
he's generic when she's not around
He shows signs of it
We wont live to see that moment drorith
Maybe sylvanas will get turned on by her own people
BFa just further pushes that he isn't even really his own person
Wrathion is what
just male sylvanas to do what sylvanas wants
he's like 5 or 6 yea
smol dragon
He is a drake atm
@zealous basalt feels bad man, I mean we will if we go into stasis
And we havent seen his dragon form
Whelp
WoD you see him still in Whelp form mak
he's only 5 or 6 years old
Wrathion will bring in the alliance dragon allied race, when we least expect it
Dragons do not mature that fast
tbh playable drakonids for alliance pls
Drakonids are dragon creations tho
no
Drakonids are mortals who are changed by dragon magic
why not ogres and vrykul
Well, some sources say that they are evolved dragonsworn
Most Drakonids are Dargonsworn mortals that've been changed by the dragons they've sworn themselves to
Black Dragonflight allied race
for alliance
Black dragonflight?
its both Mak.
Why black?
why would the dragonflights choose sides
More so the former at this point and time
Drakonids can probably make more drakonids tho
Black drakonids pls
In MoP
another thing that Wrathion said
Oof
he has no plans on reviving his flight
he also appeard in then alliance embassy for a short time before ebing removed
maybe they will readd him in the future as a surprise or maybe not
reasons
I could totally see Wrathion being a leader of a dragon allied race for alliance
Why
i think there are two more allied races after kt humans and zandalari trolls
What reasons
and thats it
Because he is Alliance?
Wrathion’s more likely to go Alliance either way
Wrathion isn't alliance what
What
lol
Wrathion in MoP
Wrathion is
did say he supports the alliance
He said that he supported the alliance all the way
Didn't he try to destroy it tho
🎉
Wrathion considers Anduin to be his bestie
I won't be surpised if we see wrathion come back in a major way in a future BFA patch
He said that it was the only chance that the alliance would break up horde entirely
I mean we try to find him in BFA already
With new manduin like model
If you get teh island quest
what's wrathion's title again?
Black prince
he is the Black Prince. the 'last' living black dragon.
thought it was cooler
Manduin like Wrathion model
Why
I mean if we have a quest to find him in BFA perhaps he could get a major role or appear at somepoint in a later patch
For the fanservice
We dont know what happens next tho
after we encounter the dragons.
but we don't know what happens
What if Azerite cures black dragons of madness and corruption?
wouldn't surprise me
They arent corrupted
Nobody wants a copy of Anduins model for wrathion
Yes
I hope they don't remove the quest
Which is why they are collecting Azerite
All the black dragons PRIOR to this were corrupted Makore
with the exception of what's his name
Ebonhorn
What if they are using Azerite to try to purify the Flight?
Ebonhorn is hawt 👀
ettin allied race when
Temporally fix?
Why
Or are effects permanentM
not at all Mak
Once cleansed
you're cleansed
You can fall back into corruption later, but you wouldn't willingly do that
ya know?
Ohh
Ressurect Onyxia and purify her 
Again
Then have Lady Prestor marry Anduin
would you guys hate or love the alliance getting a dragon allied race lead by Wrathion for Alliance?
yas
2 old
I'd hate it
I am all for playable dragons
if the horde gets something equally as cool I'd be fine with it
^
Or drakonids
Hero class dragonsworn with chance of becoming drakonid
Don't gimp my dragons
I'd hate it but not because i'm horde.
Because it doesn't make sense for dragons to choose a side when they've been neutral for all this time
well Wrathion could change that
@meager warren unless the Horde forced their hand
probbaly
yes
Like they did in Orcs snd Humans?
he'd beat them all to join the alliance
Go back to horde
The Horde -has- enslaved dragons before
Staying alliance
They did force their hand but they're still neutral
They dont like orcs, at least the red dragonflight
Guys, I copied my characters on from Live to PTR yesterday, but now my friends cannot copy their characters anymore anyone know why?
I mean. they still did in cata.
Now, the rest
I could see Alextrasza finally getting fed up with Horde war mongering, since she’s the Aspect of Life
Ohh okay ty
Cares little about mortal problems
And she wouldnt risk more of her dragonflight tbh
Whatever
^
Red dragons still protect life
especially if the canon part of the mount quest
is that we wiped out
all their dragons
Not really
They really dont
BLACKROCKSTOLEMYBIKE!
Imo all horde druids and illidari should be fighting for the alliance this expac
But depending on the PC choice
They would react to him in da next part
so IF the canon one is that we wipe dout the dragons there
she certainly wouldn't risk more
I still think
What
Horde Druids: “all his environmental catastrophe we’re doing sure is good for nature and the planet...”
That they being unable to lay eggs because power is ridiculous
Right, Honk?
it is mak
The HM tauren chose a side 'cause big plothole
but fuck it they made it as canon as possible
from that tweet in Cata
¯_(ツ)_/¯
it's not really a plothole arson
how were the nelves fucked in cata anyways
Eh
Did you not see all of that?
No
just suddenly the orcs are able to steamroll into their lands?
with no retaliations?
It doesn't really make sense imo
guys, guys
and with chronicles solidifying it. It's just dead.
It might make sense if blizzard knew how to write
They have retc9ned lots of things b4
Seriously tho
Yea that's the point of chronicles
should get a model update
Okay
All of them
I don't plan on it but what vris said
^
what happened
that's seriously fucked up
Makore just implied they were bombing or shooting up blizzocn
Would you like me to be specific and target just the writers?
because its fucked up
Or 'writters'
Vris, you get concerned about fucked up jokes now when u used to make them.
I'm proud of you
#CalledOut
No
Okay so I dont actually have the meme on me but it goes like this.
Everyone jokes around about school shootings and what-not - I sleep
Celebrity dies and one person makes a joke - someone lost their life that's fucked up
That's moral for you
Thankfully I dont have such thing as a censor bar
You like it or not
I dont care if you censor yourself
I'll make jokes without direct real life implications
They keep doing ridiculous things with no backsupport
I don't either but i do try not to say stupid shit
have some fucking decency.
I am decent
Do you see me writing really bad jokes all the time?
thats my job
Those numbers should be the other way around, but yeah, it really did.
If you think it was ever 100 yoh must be new
#unfunny
I save the best for when its time
So, never?
Garrosh did nothing wrong
But if you want apology for triggering you all
garrosh did nothing wrong

will we see any of Thrall this Expac?
what is he doing?
Fluttering around
What r u doing
Hopefully drowning himself
rude
I am surprised that blizzard hasnt done a shrek meme already
You're shitty
It's not that bad
Whos that Big Octopus old gold?
Yogg i think
its not an old god
N'Zoth?
@tropic trail Will we fight him?
from*
We dont know yet
Unknown if we'll fight him yet
We do know that his prison has been breached
Its hinting at it and a lot of the events look to be leading up to it
thanks to the sword stabbing: All titan facilities have critical containment failures
you can thank illidan for that btw
Suspicious
Illidan ❤
illidan should've been the night elf leader
He did a good job
leans back in chair
Illidan kileld our planet
Thanks illidank
hey
we die too
It was a matter of time tho
And?
We're the idiots that LIVE on this planet
at least we die killing horde
garrosh did nothing wrong
I just feel bad for all those poor murlocs
#garroshdidafewthingswrong
I see that guardians reference and raise you 200 gold
always
I'm surprised that there werent earthquakes
damn
Make Azeroth great again my dudes
Or tidal waves due the plunging
that's part of the meme
#garroshdidafewthingswrong
#GarroshDidNothingWrong
it is 0Ld g0Dz day my dude
Oof
Taran Zhu as horde leader
#GarroshDidAFewThingsWrong
stop
Zhu hates both sides
Illidan will one day return to crush Slyvanans skull
I really wanna Fight whats her name
#GarroshDidAFewThingsWrong
IN BFA
#GarroshDidAFewThingsWrong
sylvanas?
Aszhara
Illidan will return riding Sargeras' back
We will fight azshara
"This is for Prince Farondis"

Illidan isnt coming back rn
I'm so glad Khadgar gone
What if sylvanas gets turned on by her own people
Dadgar?
...rotten flesh
Suarfang is joining the alli
undead dont care
I doubt Sylvanas is ever going to die
Slyvnanas would get rekt by Illidan
Undead aren't given any choice so we don't know thst they don't care
Ew food
Anduin can kill Sylvanas
saw what
Good
Can't wait for Illidans return in the future, He will from now on dedicated himself tot he alliance
Anduin is a Pally and a Priest
and Crush every horde leaderss skull
with Sargereas on a leash
Holy Dankgeras
Do u guys Main alli?
New Alliance allied race. Sargaeres + Illidans children
the Alliance is going to get corrupted by the 0҉͓̟L̴̦̟d̨̞̦ ͙͇͎g̳̺̹0̖̰͘D̟̳̕z
> 
I Main alliance
I main alliance, I'd never join the horde spits
But i main a Warrior so i have a Orc warrior and a Human warrior
O
lol
I just boosted the Orc one
guys guys
Ah
just hear me out
I want a ship expac too.
I ship Drorith and Sylvanas
Kek
Anduin turns into a shadow priest and gets corrupted. Void Elves go mad crazy. Genn dies because he cant save the alliance. Alleria's dream comes true and she is the new old god or whatever
And?
0҉͓̟L̴̦̟d̨̞̦ ͙͇͎g̳̺̹0̖̰͘D̟̳̕z expansions boys
New topic on old god expansion
@meager warren I think you got the wrong sister, you mean Alleria
Go back to the Black Empire
We've had old god expacs already
alliance becomes corrupted
Classes empowered with Void
and the horde, being the nice boyz, purifies the alliance
No i mean sylvanas, drorith
and saves them
Void elfs take over
anyone on board with this?
Who is the the leader of void elfs
alleria
Not me
Illidan
and some other void elf
Sylvanas feels remorse and purifies the alliance from the 0҉͓̟L̴̦̟d̨̞̦ ͙͇͎g̳̺̹0̖̰͘D̟̳̕z corruption
and saves alleria
but she sacrifices herself
@meager warren They are Sisters
Windrunner
And?
They might fight eachother hmmm
Guys, guys
The alliance gets corrupted
Anduin tries to do his light thing
he becomes a shadow priest
corrupted
void elves go mad crazy
and alleria becomes the old god like her dream said
sylvanas feels remorse and sacrifices herself to save her sisters
like she did in the comic a little
She'd be a parody of an old god wnd not an actual old god unless blizz has forgotten that as well
Yes but he would do anything for the alliance
and he tries saving alleria
but she's too strong
and he becomes corrupted
oh and something with jaina being involved
J'aina
just a theory
would y'all be ok with this theory becoming true?
Only sylvanas ends up dying
Anduin becomes cleansed
and he goes on the lead the army of the light
My Maghar orc is 115 lol plz be 120
its good tho
No it's not
finally the alliance suffers
Horde suffers all the time because they're fucking dumbasses
Voljin lives one xpac lol
Lol
Like bye bye
We do suffered b4
Why
Thabks to horde
in the end sylvanas has a change of heart and sacrifices herself anyways
Source?
Wrynn is king till legion lol
Its a theory
I said earlier its a theory
yes it does
the windrunner comic
the vision that alleria has
or dream
whatever the hell it is
dark mirror
the events in BFA
everything else though is just speculation
"Anduin becomes cleansed" implies he's corrupted.
"Sylvanas is the onky ond to die" implies she will
No basis in fact
But anduin is
Anduin needs to show his shadow side
Zandalr is a nice play
He's human, that's close enough
Love
and sylvanas shows that she cares about her sisters in the comic
and lets say if alleria does become corrupted
which she might because the dream
and the rest of the alliance goes down with her
its up to the horde to either abandon them, or save them
Anduin is not
I love that they add hipos to this game
and sylvanas will have a change of heart and sacrifice herself
and then there'll be another windrunner comic
after the events
Why would she do that when it's the complete opposite of everything she's done since her inception?
also in dark mirror there's still a "human" side to her deep down
beneath all that evil
she's still a little alive
like nathanos
She's not human tho lol
No i don't
She might have "remorse" and other stuff but it comes too late
She's already sunk herself into the hole
Too far
well even though it's totally out of character for her, she'll have a change of heart
breaking these damned chains that undeath put upon her
Source?
its a theory dude
Based off what
theories dont 100% always have sources
based off the windrunner comic
and the book
book I mean by dark mirror
They should. Otherwise it's not a theory but conjecture
y'all try to hard to shut down every little thing I say
its just a theory
chill out
never said it would happen
just my idea on what might happen
Wrong words mate
I forgot I had to refer to it as a "conjecture"
since every little thing here has to be strict
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/154321712425467904/459420927625789450/Steam_Summer_Sale.jpg
Anduin and Genn after taking the Undercity
Words mean things, my dude
talkin to me?
I dont enjoy having to be very specific with what I say just to have a discussion here
Nobody does but if ya don't do it, nobody takes you seriously
I mean. Rys.
In this chat we like to actually dissect, talk and further expand upon theories.
To do so, you don't give much for us to work on with "Oh well I have no proof its just what I think"
Except its a theory
and Im ok with criticism
except y'all seem to try to criticize every little thing
and y'all joke around about me here a lot, I get that, and when I say a thing about peach he gets angry af
Yes that's how theory sharing works
I just dont get it
Every Sylvanas hater or whatever has said that exact "theory" because they're desperate for it to be so.
Its good ima just stop presenting theories here, I work better with other servers
Just like everyfanboi of hers has said she'll be redeemed
love me some sylvanas
Like an example of a theory that we discuss a lot about: "I think G'huun was created by the titan constructs specifically to devour the Old Gods out of Azeroth."
i just want her to step down
We then present reasonings, logic and evidence
no redemption, no death
then everyone in the chat discusses
I want to kill her
a good middle ground
you only do 1 part of the work and refuse to do the rest so we don't really have much more input than shooting your theories down
yeah the ghuun theory we have is based on voice lines, datamined stuff, art, blizzcon, and a bit from chronicles
never seen any talk about ghuun unless I started it
its a theory from when the vo was first added
Peach and I have been discussing the theory ever since the VO was added
When did you join this server?
ghuun is essentially just a mouth and stomach
Rys
and was made by the titans, they didnt intend to make an old god, so what was its original purpose?
probably something to remove the old gods
He looks like one too. HIs dialogue backs up that claim.
If you think we're going to be nice you havent been here long enough
The titans know how dangerous they are, so they had to be desperate to try anything with Old god blood and flesh. Which makes sense in finding a way to remove the old gods permenately and safely. It'd also put up as a good reasona s to why no other titan facility tried this
No we don't but we absolutely love it. Turns us on when our prey squirms
So it gone wrong? Ghuun?
that's why it is ugly?
We don't know the why but it's very likely that it was made specifically to eat out the other old ogds.
gods*
thats why it isnt a mass of tentacles
it looks completely different from all the other old gods
It's just a mouth with a stomach attached =3
when we kill it in uldir, we will ACTUALLY kill it
Which is basically what all worms are.
Does the beta say why it gone wrong?
What theory
G'huun was made to eat up the Old Gods from inside of the planet outwards
Ooh
Since it looks like a proper worm, a mouth attached to a stomach, all the eating lines it has in it's dialogue
can imagine it making its way to the old gods
while they are chilling
and sudden munch
That's the idea.
But where is the other end
Can't wait for BfA even tho the start is shit
That body is the full body
what other end?
there is no more to it
you know, there is a mouth where the food enters
ohh
or gained sentience
What if ate something and corrupted it from within?
one or the other
That might have happened
but we don't know what went down for it to go berserk.
A ultra spicy tako
a midnight at Taco Bell
Damn
The real question is, what if something eats it 🤔
Oof
and assimilates it?
or maybe those in Uldir didn't get that far before g'huun went on a rampage
Well, it's lair doesn't seem all titanic
it's just made to contain it
so it's very likely that either right as it was brought ot life or sometime after, it gained sentience and linked itself to the void and went berserk and they had to seal it up
hopefully we get more information as time proceeds
actually, ghuun's lair is definitely a titan chamber
its just filled with disease and ffungus
Im hopeful, but I won't hold my breath for it
its a metal chamber behind all of that toxic goo
think it like the uh
Xenomorph hives
G'huun and whatever it created coated the metal and walls to make living more comfortable for it
Mini G'huuns?
Mini xenomorphs
Oh neptune
Well. that one bleeds into a new theory that's sort of canon but not entirely.
The Old God forces are made by dividing up the Old Gods biomass.
So as G'huun consumes stuff, it gains more biomass to separate and continue to make more old god forces such as C'thrax and Faceless Ones
Think titans would go that far to create one eater disguised of an old god perfectly?
In an effort to solve the old god problem
yes
but they'd only do it once. No other titan facility has tried this so its safe to say that Uldir is the first one that did
and no one else did because they know the outcome
When making a old god goes wrong
I don't think it's the first facility, but I do think this is the first facility that tried to experiment on the Old God blood
Actually we know the first Facility
the Well of Eternity
Accidental facility tho
The Well wasn't accidental
it was made purposefully to seal the wound Aman'thul made
Wasn't the well the open wound of it?
That one naga siren who loved that gnome needs to reunite with her love @hollow dock
I thought the elves made all the fancy stuff near the wound
They made the city
However
when the dark trolls went into the facility that surrounded the well, they found the Kaldorei langauge and the name 'Kalmindor' that described azeroth
so the facility was made first before the night elves existed
I didn't know that
another thing to note is that the Temple of Elune, now known as the Tomb of Sargeras, was built ontop of a titan facility.
The purpose of this facility before Aegwynn sunk it is unknown
Was the portal there though?
no
the facility below the temple is an unknown
my theory is it is part of the locks that imprison nzoth
its in approximately the right place
and lines up with the 5 keys thing
it also explains why the naga are there
i wonder
I love that velf vs HM tauren pic btw
if the death knights will break their connection with the lk after legion
I don't actually think we can
My theory is this: The deathknights are, and always will be, bound to the Helm of Damnation. As long as the Lich King exists, the deathknights will be bound to his will.
Now you might ask: "Well why did Sylvanas and the Forsaken free themselves? Why did the Val'kyr?"
Well I might be able to explain that.
For Sylvanas and the Forsaken, they weren't risen by the Lich King, they were risen by Arthas. Before he could ascend to the Throne. As for the Val'kyr, Arthas either created them or had bound them to his will. Which means not resurrecting them and tying them to the helm.
For us third generation deathknights, we are risen directly by Arthas. Bound directly to his helm.
So when Sylvanas and her Val'kyrs met, they changed masters and were tied towards her?
Yup
It's even depicted as such, that the Val'kyr willingly submit themselves to Sylvanas' will.
New forsaken were made, as of cataclysm, by none other than the Val'kyr.
The 7 greater valkyr that bound themselves to Sylvanas created lesser Val'kyr that acted as her necromancers and made more Forsaken
And why was she in need of more?
Forsaken can't reproduce.
They're a faction of undead. They can't replenish their numbers through the living conventional means
if they wish to keep a hold of their lands and keep in the fighting, they need more.
So what you are telling me is
That all the dead lordaeronians are either forsaken or simple undead now?
yes
There aren't more dead ppl in Lordaeron?
no
that's rough
Yea. A very small percentage actually managed to get out
Those that did survive blended with Stormwind or the refugees of Dalaran
I see now why she needs more dead
You can't make forsaken out of the living. You need them to die.
What's the best way to get mass amounts of the dead?
A world war.
Are you theorizing that her apparent paranoia is just an excuse?
it's why she's been promoting this war. Going behind the backs of the horde and doing her best to make the horde Totalitarian under her rule.
Oh no the paranoia is apart of it
but she stands to gain so much more. It's just a bonus in addition to her paranoia
Hmm, makes sense
When you read Before the Storm, assume all her words are lies except with Nathanos
Nathanos is the only one she trusts and thus wouldn't have much reason to lie to him
I knew that she didn't like the rest of the horde
But she does underestimate the Alliance a lot
She underestimates them but also overestimates them
Anduin does not want war. He wants peace.
she does genuinely care about the forsaken though
i mean, the way she cares is twisted
But she insists that he's building for war and to attack the horde
but she does care
It's like those girls that hurt you or kill other people that look at you.
they do it for the loves.
even if its sick and twisted
It makes me think now that she knows that, the moment the alliance goes into serious mode, they will lose
that's always been the horde's issue
Or at least survive with little
the moment that the alliance goes on the offensive, the horde can't stay together against them.
that's why, ever since garrosh, the horde has had to rely on surprise attacks and brutal strategies.
I don't think I haven't seen the Alliance that reckless before than in the Siege
Siege wasn't really reckless of the alliance. That's just an invasion carried out in fantasy style
Where did the boat come from tbh
which boat
Oh you mean the Lordaeron thing
that's a graphical bug I'm like 99% sure
Since where that boat is, is where Jaina is supposed to be standing
It could be funny if a boat launched itself from the shore to hit the wall
Oh she does?
into the side of the keep
...
its in the comic
That girl is insane
we dont have the cutscene yet
which comic? I don't remember that
last page or two of the jaina comic
How does a wooden boat destroy a stone wall o.O
its not wood
its metal
mostly
O
i don't see a boat
that's Kul tiras
wait
theres no fountain at that area
i see the boat
its either lordaeron or theramore