does she even use a horse outside of silverpine
#beta-ptr-spoilers
hollow dock
Broken Shore's in game cinematic. Gilneas.
Those are the only times I see her mounted on anything
grizzled sleet
They can at least give her that bat mount from the prepatch
hollow dock
That doesn't make sense to be running on? O.o
uncut vault
I always kinda thought the classic horse look fit her better
a lot sleeker than the new ones
grizzled sleet
@hollow dock oh yea xD
hollow dock
the script is for her to be mounted and riding around on the ground
stiff vector
i mean technically bats can walk
hollow dock
It can
stiff vector
it just looks ridiculous and isnt very fast
frosty matrix
Give her the old Tauren Plainsrunning racial from the vanilla beta. Problem solved.
hollow dock
but why run around on a bat when the horse just looks better
frosty matrix
No mount needed; she just fuckin' BOOKS IT
uncut vault
the felbat run animation is also just
completely ridiculous
realistic for a bat, but ridiculous
hollow dock
and when its sitting still
the constant motion downwards as it's breathing doesn't really make to be an 'imposing' mount
uncut vault
I just wish theyd give the old bats a sit/idle anim
grizzled sleet
@uncut vault actually it's not a Felbat but a Plaguebat :p
uncut vault
uses the felbat skeleton tho
hollow dock
its a felbat
grizzled sleet
Undercity Plaguebat
stiff vector
felsbatman
hollow dock
^
grizzled sleet
A bat without fel is not a felbat
hollow dock
it is a felbat
uncut vault
Im honestly more excited for the unarmored bat mount
hollow dock
best mount is entirely subjective
grizzled sleet
Btw
ruby prawn
Invincible is the best mount
grizzled sleet
I tried argus invasion as a lvl 110 in the PTR and I can solo them easily
ruby prawn
Or Headless Horseman's Horse
hollow dock
I'd imagine.
grizzled sleet
Not sure if it's intended
hollow dock
It is
ruby prawn
Maybe it's an ilvl squish bug
hollow dock
Remember, the Pre-patch and all subsequent patches are giving us the new scaling for our stats
and with the mob squishing down to a much lower ilvl, the tuning is all over the place.
grizzled sleet
distant folio
@stiff vector "i mean, their parent race is goblin according to the game" oh is there a file or something that directly says that?
stiff vector
yeah chrraces says base race is goblin i think
distant folio
I mean it's kind of obvious but this comment got me curious
Ah alright
I didnt know there was a base race column in chrraces
distant folio
Alright 😃
Someone above said that kul tirans use a modified vrykul skeleton? is there any evidence to that? I've never seen any
urban dew
I believe when people were viewing their skeletons, they found they use a heavily modified Vrykul skeleton
stiff vector
they do look pretty similar tho
urban dew
Which makes Vrykul kinda unlikely
grizzled sleet
hollow dock
it looks good
grizzled sleet
hollow dock
but did you expect Snitties?
urban dew
I'm judging you very harshly right now
sullen dagger
dayum son
uncut vault
ogritties 😩
hollow dock
Judge away I have no shame
grizzled sleet
No shame no gain
grizzled sleet
You know how can blizzard make +OO$ in a week ?
They add an allied race with a powerful racial with a raid progression
maybe Zalandari will get an enhanced troll racial
hollow dock
None of the ones we've seen elude to that o;
grizzled sleet
Dark Iron Dwarves got an enhanced Dwaves racial
sullen dagger
give females big tiddies
hollow dock
I wouldn't say that at all Mim
sullen dagger
and armor with cleavage
grizzled sleet
but Maghar Orcs got something worse
hollow dock
the 1% physical reduction is a huge step down to 20%
sullen dagger
SLUTMOGS LEFT AND RIGHT
uncut vault
regeneratin' seems to be a different regeneration, but I dont think zandalari have berserking
plus, if something can be BETTER than berserking
man would that be the best racial
sullen dagger
velf version is pretty nifty
grizzled sleet
Zalandari were supposed to be added with DID, and DID got an enhanced active racial
sullen dagger
the damage spike is lower but longer
uncut vault
zanda were never meant to be added with dark irons
they just got revealed together at blizzcon because they were more finished
grizzled sleet
🤔
hollow dock
that's not a better raicial mim
that's supremely worse in all situations BUT being focused in PVP
sullen dagger
which one?
hollow dock
The remove all poisons, diseases, curse, magic and bleed effects and increase your primary effect by 100 for each one removed
2 min CD.
At best in PVE, that's 100 free stats every 2 minutes.
Supremely worse than the base dwarven racial. 10% physical damage reduction and removes all the same effects.
sullen dagger
well, i think humans and undeads got the best racials till the nerf with the medallion of courage
hollow dock
Only in PVP really.
sullen dagger
nah, in raids it could save you from some problems
hollow dock
It was nice to have the CC freeing racial in some raid fights but it barely came up
as most CC that's being applied is because you made a mistake
sullen dagger
its like the ashbringer effect in legion
hollow dock
Especially since most effects go off when the CC breaks
sullen dagger
1000% of the retard pallies in my guild stand in the friggin stuns
hollow dock
so breaking it early was actually more harmful thang ood
sullen dagger
EVERY ONE OF THEM
hollow dock
yea. and they won't be doing that anymore
sullen dagger
thank god fir that
grizzled sleet
I think you're right, I forgot about the 10% reduction
sullen dagger
also
hollow dock
What makes it worse is that Fireblood requires you to cleanse yourself of at least 1 debuff
to get the benefit of using it
sullen dagger
does any race have magic red as racial?
mint holly
I have a question for those who have actually played the beta.. were there any professions you found more useful than others? The two main characters I plan on leveling have Inscription and Alchemy.. just wondering if I should change to JC or something or if those are going to be good to stay with. I haven't explored JC, or Tailoring or other professions on the beta to find out
hollow dock
Depends on what you're looking for
¯_(ツ)_/¯
It's entirely subjective on what's useful and what isn't
mint holly
What's useful for A. gold making, and B. Guild/raid contributions
grizzled sleet
Embrace the Loa may be an active ability for damage (zalandari troll)
hollow dock
that's never changing as everyone requires herbs, pots, and flasks as well as books for changing in raids and scrolls are coming back
grizzled sleet
hollow dock
Looks like a healing icon
grizzled sleet
This is the healing https://static.icy-veins.com/forum-files/uploads/monthly_2018_04/ability_racial_regeneratin.thumb.png.0b141dca0c1591e3466b77f852596aa7.png
Regeneratin
hollow dock
they both look like healing
mint holly
That was kind of my thought, Vris, but on the off chance the other professions changed enough to be useful and a gold mine, I had to ask 😄
uncut vault
embrace the loa could be similar to the maghar racial
hollow dock
Again entirely subjective on if they are or aren't
uncut vault
get a random loa effect
hollow dock
The safe bets are always alchemy and inscrip but some people might find use in Blacksmithing or Leatherworking even if it is in more niche markets
grizzled sleet
Mag'har - Hunters
Nightborne - Mages
Void Elves - Shadow Priests
Lightforged - Paladins
Highmountain Tauren - Tanks
Dark Iron Dwarves - Warriors
Kul Tiran - Outlaw Rogues
Zandalari - Druids
hollow dock
Why would I roll mag'har for hunter when normal orc gives me 5% more pet damage?
grizzled sleet
This is from lore perspective, Mag'har got Increases pet health by 10%. and Increases mounted speed by 10%.
uncut vault
Maghar not being shamans as the best fit?
grizzled sleet
But I may be wrong xD
hollow dock
Pet health doesn't make that much sense
for PVE that is
cuz the pets aren't tanking
and they don't die to AOE
hollow dock
Like I get the thematic of it. just for usefulness
that's not really useful in the end game content
grizzled sleet
Maghar got the most useless racials
Reduces the duration of Poisons, Diseases, and Curses by 10%.
Increases mounted speed by 10%.
Increases pet health by 10%.
hollow dock
that reduction is actually pretty good for raiding
less damage taken from those debuffs
grizzled sleet
🤔
grizzled sleet
But still
hollow dock
they don't tick faster, they tick for shorter amounts of time
grizzled sleet
normal orcs still better than Maghar
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instead of doing 100 damage every second for 10 seconds, it only does it every second for 9
hollow dock
yea pretty much. that's 100 less damage you have to take and 100 less damage that has to get healed.
While it's not a flashy 5% damage increase, it's better for the healers :p
hollow dock
That and Crusader don't stack with other mount speed increases I thought.
Outside of pathfinder
grizzled sleet
Not going to happen unless we get a Wotlk 2.0 with Bolvar
But I think Bolvar should be for a patch not an expansion
grizzled sleet
I don't think so, they usually introduce something to use it the next expansion, like guldan in wod then a raid boss in legion, or Azshara with Zin-Azshari and eye of azshara and such and they're using her in BFA.
hollow dock
I'm just wanting to see why Alex would play a role
when she's just living out her life with the alst of her flight
uncut vault
I mean, whenever bolvar comes around she'll definitely be involved, theyve been setting up bolvar and the red flight twice now
and alexstrasza made him what he is
terse patrol
I’ve got no proof, but I’m 90% sure Alex will die this expac
hollow dock
They haven't actually done anything with the flight as a whole?...
it's 1 red dragon we help thanks to something we deathknights did
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The DK mount quests involve quite a few
hollow dock
It involved a grand total of 2 reds, 1 bronze.
and then the optional slaughter of the flight.
terse patrol
Also, look at the new login screen. The flying forms above the city don’t look like birds or bats to me.
hollow dock
Which if they make it canon that we wiped out hte sanctum
they certainly wouldn't be helping
since they just wouldn't have the numbers
Gryphons Honk
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looks like a stylized vulture to me
hollow dock
^
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cause its the aftermath of a battle
hollow dock
those are absolutely birds
grizzled sleet
So Thrall is going to play a role in BFA ? because Chris Metzen is in the credits
hollow dock
Metzen is in all credits
he kinda made this world
in which, thrall's seemingly removed from the quest he's to show up in
for reasons we aren't aware of
frosty matrix
He's voiced other characters, and he did so much of the original world-building, he's often still credited regardless, as Vris said
grizzled sleet
So no important role for thrall ? 
hollow dock
I wouldn't say it was an important role to begin with
grizzled sleet
ruby star
Perhaps we'll see thrall at some point on BFA
hollow dock
maybe.
ruby star
They just want to keep it secret or try
grizzled sleet
Thrall was always voiced by Metzen?
grizzled sleet
https://youtu.be/-VxkC3MNAew isn't it Metzen voice?
terse patrol
Yes
hollow dock
Oh yea. he does Varian as well.
uncut vault
Im kinda glad thrall was removed from the voljin quests
not that it doesnt make sense for him to help voljin but
Id rather have trolls like rokhan and gadrin be going to bwonsamdi
hollow dock
Bolvar is of fire and ice
terse patrol
So, Bolvar’s returning.
hollow dock
that's an obvious thing
I just dont' understand where alex falls into it all?...
since she's no aspect. She's just a really big dragon at this point. She has no ties to the dead or keeping it under control, just like she didn't have any reason to actually help in the scourgewar
terse patrol
Alextrasza’s flame powers him.
hollow dock
so why would she help in the second?
terse patrol
Vris, there’s a reason every single one of the original aspects is being picked off one by one imo.
uncut vault
Id see it more as bolvar going after alex
hollow dock
and it's not alexstrasza's fire honk
remember
it WAS NOT alex that burned him
it was red dragons
terse patrol
Red dragon fire, whatever.
hollow dock
I'd believe that a bit more Port.
But her going into the scourge war, that doesn't make sense to me. Especially since they stayed out of the first one
terse patrol
I’m not sure it’ll be Bolvar who kills her though.
ruby star
Dw Wrathion will bring a dragon allied race to Alliance
grizzled sleet
No, he will just be the King with Anduin
ruby star
I mean he was in embassy but was removed at one point
hollow dock
probably because they couldn't make a story with him being there.
terse patrol
I think the five original aspects are the “five keys” to the prisons of the Old Gods. All that’s left, technically, are Alex and Nozdormu. “The Lord of Ravens will turn the key.” I think Odyn, who hated the idea of creating the Flights, will kill Alextrasza in an attempt to prevent her inevitable madness. In doing so, he plays right into the Lich King’s wishes.
And Alex is ressurected as a fire wyrm.
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his story doesnt need to be all that complicated tbh. I was hoping theyd address him in a book, but write a short story about him talking with Anduin again would be good enough for me
terse patrol
I think we’re gunna see Bolvar use Alex as a mount.
ruby star
We might see wrathion in 8.3 or 8.2
uncut vault
r/azerothporns got you covered for that
uncut vault
there is, you grab a scale off of a young, seemingly uncorrupted black dragon and go to find wrathion in the most logical place
ruby star
Oo has anyone actually done this yet
uncut vault
nah they dont drop on beta
uncut vault
the items are all there but the testing only gives the basic reward
a little item to turn into emmisaries
hollow dock
so do you get the item to do the wrathion quest or not? I'm confused now
grizzled sleet
How many items related to Wrathion ?
uncut vault
you do get the item, its a rare drop from the end of an island expedition
theyre just not in the loot pool for beta testing
terse patrol
ye, it’ll be there for live
hollow dock
OK so like I said, it' sjust in the files for now? since you can't get it in game
terse patrol
I think Blizz doesnt want to spoil everything in the beta
grizzled sleet
Just 1 item related to wrathion ?
terse patrol
yes its in the files
uncut vault
Yeah a quest starter
grizzled sleet
is there any others related to something else?
uncut vault
each enemy halfway spawn can give an item
its either a rare drop, or something you get from your first time encountering them
uncut vault
quest text leans towards the latter but the current reward stucture only really works for the first
uncut vault
yes
grizzled sleet
Oh
hollow dock
I know it exists honk
zealous basalt
Leave dragons alone shesh
I swear someone is going to be shot if another aspect dies
forest tartan
i wonder if we can kite Ysondre into org when vanilla comes out
hollow dock
Probably
In their update, they wanted to keep it as close to vanilla in terms of gameplay as they can
frozen dust
Twitter
hollow dock
so aggro ranges aren't put onto a limit
sullen dagger
uh oh
hollow dock
so enjoy the world bosses in low level areas
sullen dagger
so bad it is?
hollow dock
and devilsaurs everywhere
sullen dagger
this is going to be like that raoming boss?
sullen dagger
frozen dust
Oh boy
sullen dagger
welp, time to get engenieering to not step on sw till the patch
hollow dock
OH I DO HOPE THAT WE HAVE THE PET DISEASE BUG
sullen dagger
oh god no
hollow dock
YAS
hollow dock
It was because of that we actually got real world studies into diseases
sullen dagger
everybody going to the instance, recalling the pets with the disease and going to the ah
and them bam
that's like
king of dick moves
hollow dock
Vanilla is a great game when you ignore all its faults
sullen dagger
as everything is
xD
i mean, wod without its flaws was a great xpac
nice music
👌
hollow dock
Indeed
hollow dock
is just shit
sullen dagger
'main problem is, we all know everything
back in vanilla or even bc, it was all new
you go to lets say
strangethorn vale
as an alliance
you did darkwood
and went south
then there was all that troll-y feeling
and the pirates
and that was at lvl 20-40
there wasnt endgame, and leveling took months
now imagin leveling for months when you already know EVERYTHING
that's a problem classicers dont want to adress
they already did everything
there's not a new patch, there's not a new nothing
all is minmaxed, you know where the best loot drops
you know mechanics,
dunno man, it's not the same
frozen dust
I'm personally probably gonna just check out Classic for a few months to see what it was like and then once my hipster friends have gotten the edge off I'll be done with it tbh
sullen dagger
i'm not even touching that
i loved the shit uotta vanilla
but i'm not going again through that
foggy socket
can't wait for classic beggers will realize the hard truth and laugh at them
foggy socket
all the time/effort/resources put to please the vocal minority that wants it. and that might be costly later 😛
sullen dagger
nah, that's a very good pr move
they have a very small team putting that together
and they have a very real argument to close classic private servers
i do remember there was a controversy going on
foggy socket
I used to think (will there ever be a WoW-Killer?)
and since WoD it was clear to me, the only way WoW dies is if WoW kills itself 🤔
sullen dagger
since they closed a vanilla server, completely non-profit
because that had like 1000-2000 users
and their argument was that they loved vanilla, and blizzard didnt offer that
foggy socket
I mean whats next? TBC Classic Edition ?
foggy socket
a door that shouldn't be opened honestly
sullen dagger
deppends on acceptation i guess
foggy socket
people wanna feel like they did when they first played the game 14 years ago
that will never happen
sullen dagger
anyway, i thik that one of the beauties of wow, and one of the reasons the game has survived for so long, is that the game over time has evolved with us
we did bt, and that shaped the world
we defeated the LK, and that carried on
frozen dust
Calling it now, the reason people will find for not liking Classic is they "changed too much"
So it's not real vanilla
sullen dagger
hah
because they remember that as a glorifed version of vanilla
and they were MILLIONS of players
vanilla servers 2 months after the release will be kinda...
eh
foggy socket
and then realize it was a waste of resources and time
sullen dagger
¯_(ツ)_/¯
frigid umbra
No fing way.. i finally won a beta key... whoooo hooooo. let the 40gb download begin :)))... and maybe then some beta action.
tnx wowhead
hollow dock
congratz
tropic trail
So, only part 1 of the Teldrassil thing is on the PTR now?
rich apex
Yes
tropic trail
Do you think they will quick test everything? So PTR is one week ahead of live?
uncut vault
No, not likely
They will give at least two weeks of announcement for the prepatch, due to the pvp season
rich apex
I'm betting the Teldrassil finale won't be on PTR
tropic trail
It gives me sort of an Argus vibe, really.
rich apex
Gotta keep something as a surprise
rich apex
Yes 😛
hollow dock
I read prepatch for some reason O.O
rich apex
GG
hollow dock
I need the sleeping quarters
tropic trail
Here lies Vris. RIP.
hollow dock
but yea it probably wont have the full thing there
rich apex
I sure hope we don't have to wait until launch day to find out wtf happens at Teldrassil 😛
But that seems unlikely, yes
tropic trail
We can always kidnap Christie.
hollow dock
Why
she's a good girl
don't kidnap her D=
In which I don't thikn she's had much to write on for Teldrassil
rich apex
TFW you get a nice gig as -one- of the writers of WoW but everyone thinks you're writing the entire thing and should be blamed for every perceived fault
in before poor Christie deletes her twitter
hollow dock
;3;
rich apex
Red Shirt Guy can't comprehend the notion that the Alliance and Horde questlines take place a different times and now there's probably a thousand pissy nerds tagging Christie over something that has nothing to do with her
Isn't online fandom fun
sullen dagger
https://twitter.com/TheRedShirtGuy/status/1009435151854657537 this guy is someone known?
Twitter
or just a random peep?
ah shit
i just read the tweet handle
i know who he is
nvm
zealous basalt
Who is he
hollow dock
Uh
ornate pivot
He's the red shirt guy
hollow dock
yea
zealous basalt
And who is red shirt guy
hollow dock
He's the one that constnatly calls out all of blizzards inconsistencies
rich apex
He became a meme and used that meme fame to get an article gig on some fansite
zealous basalt
So
rich apex
Like his primary quality is he's a meme
hollow dock
Every blizzcon he shows up to ask and point out all of WoW's inconsistencies in the lore
ornate pivot
he has an npc in game, doesn't he?
zealous basalt
He represents the fanbase that think they could be better at blizzard's writting
hollow dock
Not really makore
he points out literal inconsitencies that DO NOT MAKE SENSE
And there's a lot of them
Teldrassil and Lordaeron being two more onto the pile.
sullen dagger
^
rich apex
He made a good point about his claim to fame with Falstad
But
Obviously the Alliance questline takes place after the Horde one
Things Happen offscreen
rich apex
The Alliance is responding to the Horde attack
rich apex
(Entire other bit aside that it's the most painfully obvious plot device of N'zoth cultists manipulating the war to turn the factions against each other by committing a few war crimes while Saurfang is distracted)
hollow dock
In which he is pointing out the Horde's brutality. That can't be called Morally Grey, and with the placement of events, things are NOT making sense.
rich apex
The Horde PC sees the Horde occupy Astranaar
Time passes
The Alliance PC arrives, everyone's dead
Clearly something happened
rich apex
After the convenient moral reps of Saurfang and the Horde PC have left
as if someone
wants the Alliance to go all out on the Horde
hollow dock
in which btw the old gods do not have specific cultists. It would JUST be twilight's hammer.
yea
that's sylvanas Hyper
rich apex
Okay, yeah, Twilight cultists, whatever
hollow dock
did not you read the book
rich apex
Or it totally could be Sylvanas
zealous basalt
What buk
hollow dock
Sylvanas dances around the sight of the horde leaders
rich apex
It is entirely possible that Sylvie ordered the soldiers out of Astranaar and then had her deathstalkers the elves
But
hollow dock
that was Blizzards big selling point Makore
rich apex
We don't see the full picture yet
zealous basalt
They would probably add something between
hollow dock
Sylvanas herself IS NOT MORALLY GREY
rich apex
There's no indication Saurfang sat there having a smoke while the orcs starting a-murdering
hollow dock
Shocking
I know
I mean
he did in Cataclysm?
Do you not remember the whole orcs skinning night elves?
uncut vault
that tweet is from before all the info was out
zealous basalt
So
hollow dock
I would like to hear his input on the current story we know
hollow dock
We dont know what they'll put on the PTR
ornate pivot
I don't
hollow dock
and what they won't
zealous basalt
I see
hollow dock
That's not told ot us. They just do it
terse patrol
Saurfang does not intentionally kill civilians.
zealous basalt
Saurfang does anything that honor tells him to
terse patrol
Saurfang regrets his actions against women and children when he was driven by bloodlust on Draenor.
He wouldnt do that again, even for Sylvanas.
zealous basalt
That's why I said honor
I honestly loved that part of the Siege
When Saurfang and Sylvanas spoke to each other
The first one would die along the horde in an honorable way, and the latter doesnt csre about ways, but the survival
Its pretty deep and metallic if you think about it
hollow dock
I'm alliance so it's pretty shit for me on both. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
zealous basalt
But the Siege is a great scenario for both
Mostly when you are running from the blightboms
Just like this
terse patrol
Tbh I think Sylvanas destroying Capital City/Undercity is going to only play into Calia’s claim to authority.
@hollow dock
zealous basalt
That's a morbid humor tbh
uncut vault
I mean Calia has less of a claim now, the place she actually lived and would have ruled from is ruined
hollow dock
and you can't even use it. it's filled with blight
that dream of her claiming it is pretty far off
uncut vault
the people she'd rule no longer live in lordaeron
and she cant exactly claim to be queen of orgrimmar
hollow dock
as its alliance land and the forsaken are gone
zealous basalt
I want to see
The cinematics there
Also I want to make an horde
Orc warrior
Or forsaken priest?
hollow dock
Orc Warrior so you can be like Rys. ;3
zealous basalt
I dont want to hit slutmoggers girls
sudden oak
that too
zealous basalt
Cant I be priest tank
sudden oak
tbh I must say that the tentacles from shadow are quite tempting
zealous basalt
Oof
uncut vault
Best of both worlds, orc priest
zealous basalt
Why can't orcs be pallies
hollow dock
they weren't trained to be them
being a priest is pretty easy
paladin's another thing
uncut vault
Cause you serve the horde instead of the naaru like a good lightbound should
zealous basalt
Orcs should have a god of war and say it's something like the magic of the fires
uncut vault
Horde pallies can only do photosynthesis for their powers
zealous basalt
Or some fuc like dat
sudden oak
hey we blood elves dont do photsynthesis for our powers
yes we have something called the sunwell
but its not literal
gilded drum
Excuse me, I play Belf and I can confirm we use photosynthesis.
uncut vault
😭
sudden oak
I also play belf and I say we dont
gilded drum
At least the Paladins do
gilded drum
Paladins do because they convert the light into strength
hollow dock
So yes it is technically photosynthesis
gilded drum
Photosynthesis
zealous basalt
If Solaire was in wow
uncut vault
Every paladin should aspire to [T]/ PRAISE THE SUN [T]/
zealous basalt
He would take a sink in the sunwell
To praise dat sun
Umless he did
And then was banned
hollow dock
Solaire was added back in WoD
sudden oak
the sunwell had that beaming sunlight even when it was arcane magic
hollow dock
It was just yellow
hollow dock
the beaming sunlight is specifically because of M'uru
hollow dock
your face?
sudden oak
that would be a very bad joke vris
hollow dock
Chicken butt.
zealous basalt
turns around slowly
hollow dock
Which skills tho
zealous basalt
...To RP
uncut vault
You know, with Azerite being yellow, the OG sunwell being yellow makes a bit more sense
hollow dock
I offended.
uncut vault
Water from the well over the original wound
hollow dock
I mean
uncut vault
Obviously they didn’t think of that but
hollow dock
Port. the Soul well in Black temple was also from the same waters
the water wasn't yellow o;
zealous basalt
What if the maelstrom becomes an Azerite fortress
hollow dock
I think the yellow was just elven aesthetics
undone trail
so I've heard about the reason for Mag'har Priests are tied in with the questline to unlock them something about Yrel and alternate timeline draenei getting zealous and attempting to convert or destroy the Mag'har?
hollow dock
You've heard some misinformation/head canon
sudden oak
what if there is already an Azerite fortress in the depths of the maelstrom and the naga are using it? :^)
zealous basalt
Oh yeah
rich apex
They're just Shadowmoon void users man
terse patrol
What Hyper said
hollow dock
The Mag'har and the Dreanei over on AU dreanor lived in relative peace until a naaru, hinted to be a Prime Naaru, lightforged the Draenei and they started to offer conversions. The Orcs that willingly converted went all crazy and forcibly converted all they could
rich apex
Ain't no one getting a special class quest in BFA
hollow dock
that's all the info we know
rich apex
Especially not for a single race/class combo
undone trail
is that where you can justify a holy priest mag'har?
zealous basalt
How do you justify holy velves
rich apex
You can justify a mag'har holy priest like you can justify a void elf holy priest
terse patrol
I mean, yes, but you’d be an outcast among Mag’har.
hollow dock
Yes. A priest that did not go with the Lightbound Orcs and instead fled to Azeroth.
sudden oak
I mean can you justify shadow lightforged draenei?
terse patrol
You could go live with the Blood Elves.
rich apex
But the quest text clearly sets up that the Mag'har are fleeing the Lightbound
hollow dock
I just omit the whole 'Shadow LFD' and 'Holy Velf' in terms of lore
zealous basalt
I think that even lightforged know that there is a balance between void and light
terse patrol
Most Mag’har priests would be shadow priests
zealous basalt
Because I think even Manduin knows da wae
hollow dock
and vice versa
hollow dock
Just the Legion*
undone trail
Also @hollow dock idk if you ever watched Stargate SG-1 but the Naaru and the Lightforged Draenei are starting to sound a lot like the Ori lol
hollow dock
Yea probably
undone trail
Hallowed are the Ori Naaru
hollow dock
blizzard isn't at all original in ANYTHING they do
frozen dust
I started rewatching SG1 with my bf recently but we're still on the Apophis stuff
hollow dock
Hell there is a sliver, a tiny sliver, of possibility that Sylvanas becomes Kerrigan
frozen dust
I just wanna get to Anubis already
uncut vault
Azeroth gives up her life essence into Sylvanas, she becomes a titan
frozen dust
God nooooo
undone trail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAPkAHmaz7o like I think this is what happens when a draenei is lightforged lmao
terse patrol
@uncut vault Please no, they’d just be blatantly rehashing Kerrigan’s storyline in Starcraft 2
uncut vault
That was the joke lol
terse patrol
i was eating wings
zealous basalt
Inb4 prophecy about Sylv being Azeroth's avatar
cinder osprey
Do we know how the different Heritage Armour tints are unlocked yet?
hollow dock
they're just sitting unused for now
TBH what may happen is that they're open for all mogs
and the specific tint is for the allied races
tropic trail
I can see why some may want Calia as the new leader of the forsaken
I just don't get how they dont see Nathanos as a better fit
terse patrol
Nathanos sucks is why
tropic trail
Have you read Dark Mirror?
hollow dock
We didn't say that Rys
we're saying she'll come up to be the Queen fo Lordaeron
but there's nothing in lordaeron to rule
tropic trail
Firstly, I'm not talking about you
hollow dock
r00d
tropic trail
Im talking about the people who said they want calia as the new leader of the forsaken
hollow dock
I was in that conversation. That's not what we were talking abou
tropic trail
Must've been a different conversation
This conversation was about sylvanas dying and who would replace her
hollow dock
yea that wasn't this mornings convo
tropic trail
What about this morning's convo?
I didnt see that
I just got on
Im talking about the convo a few days ago
hollow dock
We were talking about the Forsaken leaving Lordaeron and Calia's claim to the lands
rich apex
If only Calia was conveniently turned into an undead so that she could be connected to the Forsaken, the true successors of Lordaeron
hollow dock
That doesn't matter all tha tmuch
since no forsaken in lordaeron
and she's not becoming Queen of Orgrimmar anytime soon. As port said
zealous basalt
Not right now
rich apex
Lordaeron isn't a place, it's a people
tropic trail
Nathanos embodies what the forsaken are kind of
tropic trail
and he's actually not entirely evil
rich apex
After 5 years of squatting in Stormwind
hollow dock
King of the GIlneans*
terse patrol
@hollow dock i mean to be fair
Theres a lot of Lordaeron that isnt ruined
The capital city can be cleaned over time
hollow dock
It's still in Ruins
rich apex
<King of Gilneas>
tropic trail
I dont think Lordaeron was meant to be a new capital
hollow dock
without alliance support?
hollow dock
Heckin no
tropic trail
Oh you meant gilneas?
hollow dock
No Hyper and I are talking about another topic entirely Rys
tropic trail
I'll like to see gilneas rebuilt
terse patrol
The Alliance has Andorhal, Caer Darrow, and likely Tyrs Hand/New Avalon.
hollow dock
Honk and I are talking about Lordaeron
terse patrol
And probably Hearthglen and Stratholme
terse patrol
Yes, but they can cleanse it.
karmic copper
They have gilneas too, even though its abandonded.
hollow dock
Heck
terse patrol
Also
tropic trail
Language
terse patrol
Realize, it’s been more years since Cataclysm than it has been between Vanilla and Cataclysm. @hollow dock
hollow dock
Im kinda amazed that Straholme isnt ashes at this point
terse patrol
So
terse patrol
Lordaeron is likely 90% deplagued by now
hollow dock
why would we think that these places arent' still rotting?
The plaguelands sure
but these specific heavy scourge areas?
tropic trail
Idk what y'all talking about
but it'd be smarter to just build a new city
then to settle in lordaeron
hollow dock
The lordaeron lands that aren't currently plagued out
terse patrol
Anymore*
hollow dock
and that was due to the efforts of the alliance and horde
While we haven't had that same pressure in Caer and Stratholme
terse patrol
I’m just saying, theres plenty of areas that can be rebuilt and farmed.
terse patrol
That’s what new Lordaeron can be
hollow dock
and we haven't been shown that it's happening
terse patrol
So saying theres nothing left is silly
hollow dock
so we don't really have a reason to think its happening
I never said there's nothing left
terse patrol
Why do you think it wont happen? The Alliance controls that territory, why wouldnt they utilize it?
hollow dock
It's just that it's all in ruins. Which yes is now wrong as of cataclysm as the lands are being cured, but most of these heavier areas have still been ignored.
Because our attentions on rebuilding Kul Tiras and Stromgarde
where the horde are
We're in war
you don't rebuild an area that the war isn't in
terse patrol
except we see Southshore is being rebuilt, and thats hardly a focus.
terse patrol
Same with Gilneas
tropic trail
They're probably not going to bring Lordaeron up as a new capital, definitely not for the Horde. With all the pissed NE and Undead fans I wonder if they will get a new city
eventually
karmic copper
War maps?
terse patrol
Night Elves need their own place again, somewhere.
hollow dock
From the mission table. We have troop movements where the alliance is pushing hte horde out of the Eastern Kingdoms
They march through and fight over Hillsbrad, Arathi, and Gilneas.
karmic copper
Didnt wowhead post the war map? I was looking for it
tropic trail
Im hoping forsaken resettle in Eastern Kingdoms
instead of kalimdor
just fits so well
y'know, if they do resettle
rich apex
Implying major old world changes
hollow dock
As of now, it's alliance land
rich apex
hollow dock
Because that's where the HORDE is
tropic trail
and they wont rejoin the alliance
tropic trail
Ok well blood elves are in Eastern Kingdoms
terse patrol
So
hollow dock
the horde's capital is Orgrimmar and always will be
Sylvanas was cut off from the blood elves
tropic trail
Kalimdor is like tribal shit and what-not
hollow dock
so they couldn't flee north
terse patrol
Ryswell wants us to just return to the status quo territories.
tropic trail
Which the forsaken arent
terse patrol
As if the war never happened.
hollow dock
as much as I'd enjoy that
hollow dock
sadly we have to acknowledge the war is happening
there's no where for them to settle Rys. It's ALL ALLIANCE LAND now.
tropic trail
Lordaeron is no mans land
hollow dock
Anywhere the horde are in Kalmindor is a war zone
Orgrimmar and those parts of Kalmindor are the only places they can sit safely
tropic trail
there are no human settlements in Kalimdor for the forsaken to settle in anyways
hollow dock
Northwatch
terse patrol
The only reason the Blood Elves are still in EK is because Blizzard says its difficult to edit their instanced areas.
hollow dock
not that it's difficult honk
terse patrol
Same with Azuremyst
tropic trail
blood elves should stay in EK
hollow dock
it takes to much time and effort to do that
terse patrol
inb4 ryswell wants night elves to stay out of kalimdor
hollow dock
he is horde so.
tropic trail
I want them in kalimdor
hollow dock
¯_(ツ)_/¯
terse patrol
So you want the status quo.
tropic trail
Mount Hyjal could be a cool place for them to settle
tropic trail
its war
terse patrol
strong warrior elf race gets steamrolled
terse patrol
alliance has difficulty taking lordaeron
terse patrol
feels shitty
tropic trail
I feel its still important to atleast have one faction on each continent
terse patrol
The Horde get it easy in 8.0
hollow dock
and that happens Rys
blood elves are still in EK
cuz they're not on the world map
same with the Draenei
terse patrol
Forsaken can go live in the Ghostlands.
tropic trail
I wonder where the nelves will resettle
hollow dock
maybe the hinterlands
terse patrol
Hinterlands is their best fit
hollow dock
With their cousins =3
terse patrol
lets kick the Revantusk out
tropic trail
meh doesnt matter where the forsaken live tbh
im troll so whatever
but then again I have an undead
even if its one
hollow dock
honestly if I was one of hte Forsaken
I'd be pissed as fuck at Sylvanas
mucking up teldrassil and losing us Lordaeron
tropic trail
I dont care tbh
meager warren
Same but what can we do. Not like Blizz lets us do anything by our own choice
tropic trail
teldrassil needed the burn
terse patrol
I think the Forsaken are going to split.
meager warren
....no it didn't
terse patrol
Some will follow Calia, others Sylvanas
tropic trail
live along the tree?
zealous basalt
I know it wasnt a 100% functional world tree but...it was home for the elves
hollow dock
you build out, around and inside massive trees.
tropic trail
so there are smaller trees inside a big tree
hollow dock
It was functional as a world tree
Yes.
Much like on the back of a turtle is an island
tropic trail
lol what
terse patrol
meager warren
It may not have been totally 100% functional but it was a giant wound in the world when it died
dense plover
they cant fit it in game
meager warren
And it's a World. Tree.
zealous basalt
It's a tree with big trees inside
dense plover
its too fucking huge
tropic trail
this is teldrassil though
zealous basalt
Why does it have trees
hollow dock
what we have in game is a farcry from what the actual teldrassil is
dense plover
the stump you see is canonically not a stump - it is the entire tree
tropic trail
zealous basalt
Because its fantasy
dense plover
yeah, because thats the height limit
hollow dock
is scaled as fuck down
dense plover
they physically cant make it bigger
tropic trail
I said in game earlier
dense plover
it doesnt fit in game
tropic trail
I didnt say lore
hollow dock
Yes and we're explaining it to you Rys
terse patrol
That model was made back when the engine was WAAAAAAY more limited.
dense plover
then what is the purpose of what you are saying
meager warren
I have a feeling rys is trolling again
dense plover
it could be updated to be bigger, but it would never be its full height - its too big for the engine to support it
tropic trail
no Its just that my messages take 5 years to load
hollow dock
Look at Vordrassil.
tropic trail
and y'all chat way too fast
meager warren
So you're not trolling?
zealous basalt
Next time open the topic with the words
meager warren
tropic trail
poopoo internet
zealous basalt
"I dont know technically why it doesnt look complete"
meager warren
Thinks a stump is the entire world tree when that's just the game's engine
tropic trail
I didnt say that
zealous basalt
Who else but quagmire
tropic trail
or think that
lol
Im just sayin that it's a good thing that it burned
since they couldnt add the whole damn tree
meager warren
How is it a good thing
meager warren
Why
hollow dock
You do realize
that
they can just do what they did
for 14 years
right?
and just leave it be?
meager warren
^
hollow dock
they dont have to get rid of it
tropic trail
Id rather not
hollow dock
or burn it
tropic trail
its warcraft
hollow dock
for such a petty reason
tropic trail
world of warcraft
zealous basalt
Why not burn stormwind for being incomplete then?
hollow dock
Burn orgrimmar