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Guardian (Level 26)```
\*cries as he just found this talent and realized it was really useful*
By lore mind you
Port wants the restrictions lifted on artifact mogging, like Mages, Priests, etc have for classes like Frost DK,
We never spoke of lore
you placed that in :p
And I wasn't talking about that XD
"Do you really want to shit youreself with this trait?"
That's not what me and port were talking about
we're talking about the actual gameplay
not the lore
I said that I would like to see Frost DK be able to dual wield 2handers
We got updated pictures for the dungeons and raid tab
Balance between the two playstyles is way more work than is worth
I want to dual wield elves
starter azerite gear ilvl lowered from 300 to 270 and 275 for quest gear
I mean they already solved the balance problem in BfA, weapon damage no longer matters for abilities
all it matters for is stats and the AA itself
holy shit
I really dont know how else to explain this without insulting so Im just gonna
so much polish
stop
mailboxes in zandalar work
You're asking them to do work on something that's not relevant or doesn't matter.
kiss already
I'd rather not
Honor is converting now on beta
nani
new elementals for that area in voldun
ghost elemental
My lips are about as sealed as the Tomb of Sargeras was
no more red sha
SPOOK
Prestige => Honor works
Tsk, I think the PvP honor system is becoming account wide, right?
yup
http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/745505.jpg ghost elemental D:
Nice
that's the conversion
Have tbey fixed the floating stuff in bourlas? ๐
BOURLAS
Ghost elemental looking thicc
B O U R L A S
Bourlas plox
I'm curious on how they're gonna address burn-out though
The stormsong valley music is heavenly..
did the blood elves leave the alliance in the warcraft games?
nope
I know why they joined the horde
Blood elves didn't exist
Like during Warcraft 1 and 2
they didn't exist
inbetween 2 and 3, the High Elves of Quel'thalas left the alliance and seceded
Warcraft 3 they showed up
er
"warcraft games"
In wacraft 3 they are made.
Warcraft 1, 2, & 3
but they aren't apart of the alliance. Blood elves were never apart of the alliance to begin with.
dungeons have their title card art
I mean, Kael'thas was working with Garithos.
@hollow dock they were, under garithos
That was about it.
they left
Garithos wasn't even in the alliance by all technicality
he was just what remains of Lordaeron
tru
bc I was reading about zuljin and apparently he only joined the horde because the blood elves joined the alliance
garithos wanted to rule lordaeron im p sure
uldir maps are in
he did
Zul'jin joined the horde to kill the HIGH elves yes
zuldazar port has unique music
in the second war
it has marimba
Translate
war campaign upgrades
liking this...
oh
Lets hope
yeah
That's when he joined Orgrim in trying to remove the high elves from his lands, but Orgrim abandoned him. @tropic trail
prices/creation times seem to be lowered for testing
"Led by Zul'jin, the Amani trolls joined the Horde during the Second War. They did so in part to fight against the high elves, who had joined the Alliance. " This is why I love Trolls
:-)
Still doesn't state blood elves
Yea. except they were powerless to the elves
Wait
and orgrim had to abandon them
I'm confused again.
ooh, interesting option
by what Lilo
allows you to instantly teleport back to boralus/ataldazar when youre standing next to a flight master
Everything
Wtf? 1 hour?
yeah its a group buff
or, should be
rip
...10s*
I mean, if it's a group buff, then it'd be 1h
THO I WOULD LOVE BETTER ARMOR FOR 110 FRESH CHARACTERS
They gave crikey armor to all the boosts before hand too
It's not supposed to be good
Spoiler alert: Alleria dies
Probably good
If she notices that, even if Alleria was like one or two days older than her
My sister died. Blood elf dance
Now she is millenia older
@dense plover I think this has been here a while but heres another of the same map, with another island beside it
A place for a different patch?
man this build has so much polish
me too
same
same
yeah, went down lol
I told you to not to push the Char Copy
look at what you did
"A block of memory was allocated but never freed"
:T
Free that block of memory!
Square to bob, I didn't do it
We're getting Wod timewalking with BFA right?
I hope not
probably
an additional way of getting a free seal then
I felt confused during that expansion
Boralus' music is just so good
also yeah they made it less obvious that stromgarde isnt the only one
Warfronts opened?
LET ME INN BETA
aww theyre moving him back down
I liked where he was
eitrigg talking with a valkyr seemed interesting
this one is cool
Rip
i think i'm in love with the kul'tiras place names
but i also love the zandalar place names

Preemptive apologies to the secrets community: you brought this on yourselves.
secrets community? wot
I honestly
that's the real question. 
Feaseeeeeeel
Prefer pre-legion's Sylvanas model and who is he
If you didn't want to go ridiculous mode, maybe you shouldn't have solved the skull so fast.
LOL

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the secret findings discord is all hyped with the anticipation of a truly sadistic puzzle that puts the Nightmare maze to shame
who is jeremy feasel
Muffinus*
Wait
especially the secret findings discord
so he is gonna torture them?
With a truly horrifying puzzle
is what we're hoping for
since we solved a secret before it even hit live LOL
Worse than the 100 Halls?
We're hoping it's worse than that maze
...Are you sadicts?
Cuz Muffin is promising something horrible
https://twitter.com/Muffinus/status/1009226448844943360 from the secret findings discord
...Oh boy
@hollow dock you
why tho
nor their fault that the blood serpent was pathetically easy compared to kosumoth or the lucid ngihtmare
You sadic girl
all the music
saddict*
its very different from the other two zones
people porting to boralus are getting stuck here
@grizzled sleet report it
One message removed from a suspended account.
I did, just saying so that you avoid that
no
oh that is such a nice touch
the area around daelins statue and grave has jaina's theme from MoP
and.. again
lol, that's ok
I'm not going to regret it yet
oh boy
that's for future me to regret
all the bugs
fuck you future me
the new one
...
Poor maiden
Jesus
That's when I cried at first in the beta
this is a kids game
wow they just
"I've been impaled."
really like killing her
This is a kids game
...
That's for...
this is not a kid's game
Where we get the heart?
vris it stopped being a kids game the moment drustvar and nazmir were playtestable
yeah
BFA is going in hard on the violence.
it stopped being a kids game the moment Anduin became a king
it stopped being a kids game the moment orcs started to skin night elves
lets be real here
^ not shown in game
Not sure if anyone has said this yet but the new title screen/music is on the PTR now
It stopped being a kids game when Garona was made
@median monolith welcome back from the past
or, the moment people started complaining about "it's not PEACEcraft, it's WARcraft!" when someone suggests neutral factions
it stopped being a kids game when Llane was assassinated )
and when you talk to her
Who cares about that
mount area is new
LETS US KILL EVERYONE
drops banter
nobody but you 
o
she says something diferent
@ornate pivot Does she do the whole trying to contact the other titan facilities still?
...
screaming internally at those prices
so no discounts
Does that mean
that everyone can kill him?
If you didn't want to go ridiculous mode, maybe you shouldn't have solved the skull so fast.
what
Muffinus being a dick because beta testers from before were dicks
it's a hopeless cycle
We already posted that Mak
https://twitter.com/Muffinus/status/1009218604347211776 prior to that post. @zealous basalt
Preemptive apologies to the secrets community: you brought this on yourselves.
and the vendor has been there for at least 6 builds
How can I put the game on windowed without doing it from the game itself?
because when i do it bug
wat
no
"Endless halls but each rune room is a pet battle dungeon and each orb room is a mage tower challenge"
From the secrets discord on what this new secret could be
Future me is gonna be pissed at me

old nazmir music is king's rest music
what does your friend think beta means
it probably will
but it'll be horrible to get
and I'm so hopeful for it
cuz fuck future me. Current me, to become past me, is enjoying this
U N F
^
now bring him back to life
500k aint that bad for a cool looking direhorn
its not a repaint
this is cool
Red horridon?
armor
red horridon
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rerridon
its a variant of the zandalari racial model - thats what costs 500k
redrrion
tameable horridon
that isnt the model
I think it should be that racial mount
with armor
Anybody else can't log in?
It is red Horridon. The Zandalari racial mount is a recolor of the MOP dire horn mounts.
not just a recolor
With a new seat
they should have put on armor
I hope the upgrades are represented ingame, like how troops would change in class halls once you've upgraded them
also, the cannons are for war
@dense plover screen?
we dont use our mounts in combat
of what?
look up zandalari direhorn
it exists on wowhead
its really easy ti fubd'
where armor?
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the things on the side arent armor dude
those are cannons
we dont weaponize our mounts
It's the same armor as Horridon
xD
dude
Leave the poor dude alone
its been in the game since beta started
I only see a chair
and all artifact appeareance in one sheet
its supposed to show racial style
@serene marsh Tier 4 local transportation is wrong
you use your flight wwhistle near any flight master
Dark Iron mages got redundant
and it takes you back to your new capital city
I might go Dark Iron Shaman then.
to be fair quiet
Mages can port to more than Stormwind
and Ironforge
and not on a 30 min CD
Dark Irons probably can too, they're just missing
maybe you need to discover the spots
Nah.
but if its just those two
though
Because there's an option for Eastern Kingdoms. Wouldn't make sense if there was no other continent planned to be an option.
why do we need to specifically open EK
A port to the Dark Iron racial hub seems logical
flavor?
I like chocolate
I do too
shesh
in soviet azeroth, goblin pays you
oh geez
some of the music is inspired by powerhouse
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I really like that they updated the kul tiran music to be more than brass
all the different drums and violin make it so much more diverse
please tell me other people see this
wait
and it isnt a wine issue
The nazmir music is so nice
whats wine?
trying to run the ptr on linux is a recipe for disaster
wine is a compatibility layer for runnning windows programs on linux
oh well
cant hurt to test things
looks like it was only the menu anyways
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waycrest music is on organ
perfect
๐
Phantom of Waycrest Manor
literally inspired by phantom of the opera
i had no clue the drustvar theme they used was this
they mustve made this
then used it for the drustvar theme
๐
i figured it was just a world quest in the mountains
they recently added an icy slide on one
and it would make sense to race penguins down it
they have music for the Dive Bars
did they just sneak nerf war mode rewards?
its not a nerf if it wasnt live
its a tweak
๐
there are 3 different dive bar songs
all are completely different
semantics
yep
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ooo, so a lot of the old drustvar music is back but they added a lot of new variations with different instruments
definitely will spice up the music in that zone
hey guys?
does this sound like a different piece of music?
it reminds me of older wow music
but i cant figure out why
isnt it a spin on an old track?
it is
build is downloading, that mean realms are finally up?
ye
look at this and tell me we can't have undead droods
realms have been up
bout time
theyve been a mess
That's not undead though?
The emerald nightmare doesn't consist of only dead things..
...you're missing my point entirely
... you'd be better off using kul tiran druid forms as a point for undead druids
since the drust and by extension, kul tiran druids--literally use druidic death magic
i mean
its more like they believe death is a part of the cycle
its not death magic
Yeah, being a cat made from twigs isn't death magic
...did you miss the huge-ass skull on said cat
drust literally pervert life and twist it
its about a balance between life and death
????
the drust do.
drust druids do not
the Druids dont
May the drust guide you
the druids believe there is a balance between life and death
"May the nightmare be ever in your favor"
the druids, from before the current drust, are about balance in life and death
Oops, pardon me, I'm just allergic to drust.
that death is neccesary for others to live
I mean I know but what I'm saying is, don't use NIGHTMARE to try to justify undeath in druidism.
we arent
at all
we are saying you are wrong tho
because the game literally says so
So, if you're playing a Balance Kultiran druid, you're balancing 2 things at the same time
Like discipline priests
they believe death must come so other things can be stronger
if everything lives, nothing grows, nothing changes
no death means no growth
hence death being part of the cycle
basically a rehashing of Pandaria's point. Where you need adversity for growth
im noticing a pattern
well death is a part of life.
in the end, all things die, even druids so it isn't really unbelievable to think that an undead druid is possible and might exist in WoW's lore somewhere even if it's been hidden so far
so they beat us over the head with em
theyre remasters of OG nelf zone music right
some are
Sure
yes
islands have unique music
peppy music!
god
they nailed how all music doesnt need to have the same theme
and how it should be relevant to the task
WoD had the best music
that was legions main issue starting at the broken shore
Change my mind
havent gotten that far yet
"WoD had the best music change my mind"
no.
Sounds familiar
It's Chris Metzen
no Naaru Music, but the Naaru haven't forgotten us
that thing with Calia
thats not in game
Naaru don't care about petty mortalkind
thats in the book
They won't add it in-game in another patch if Calia is somehow important?
not the scene but something about the story
i mean
she might be relevant eventually
but it isnt going to take place in the priest order hall
order halls are done
those new warlock animations are snazzy
wont be in 8.0 either
^
^
for whoever liked WoD's drums a ton
Mag'har - Battle For Azeroth Music (Allied Race)
lordaeron horde music too
its so good
alliance music is good too
it just doesnt have the percussion
oh god finally
player illidari tabard
cooot
oh damn
nazmir music is completely different
guess using it for kings rest meant replacing it
cool
damn the login music is amazing
whats the bug? the hammer with shield?
yeah the artifact pair thing only applies to the main hand
REEEEE GIB PLAYABLE OGRES
Its a consumable @uncut vault
naga polearm
Weird though that they put it in
Blizzard keeps putting in little ogre things in BFA
these ilvl 325 from island expeditions are from what difficulty?
omggg i give up, the DCs are strong on the beta realms tonight
so island expeditions are the best way of getting a 340 weapon when BFA launch (aside from mythic dungeons) ?
The quest I was grabbing didn't go to the log
this weapon tho
You can only run mythics once a week, but I believe island expeditions don't havee that limit, or maybe yes?
they dont
you can run regular mythics over and over
regular mythic gives higher ilvl then mythic islands i think
also islands dont have guaranteed gear drop do they?
wait
im pretty sure mythic
not mythic +2
you get loot normally
dont you?
on beta you can run unlimited mythic+0 per week, but on live it's limited to 1 loot per boss per week
they said that the unlimited loot on mythic is only for beta for quick gearing
oh
hmmm
these might be from heroic or mythic islands
and again
drop chance isnt guaranteed for islands i dont think
in mythic you always get loot
Ok 
...and of course
anyone think our Heart of Azeroth is going to get placed back into Azeroth to be her sort of pacemaker?
Shit is in game
i think we will end up dumping the azerite back in
There had to be a quest with shit
Next artifact after Heart of Azeroth : The Soul of N'Zoth
Absorbing void energy to heal the world
Sorry, @hollow dock I was dealing with a chinchilla issue. No, she doesn't try to contact the other facilities, not that I've seen, but I have seen that dialogue
Oh
yea not that she physcailly tries
There are different graphics options now
just that she still gives that dialogue
What graphic options?
Rendering scale has gone back to advanced
^
Sounds like they had fun making it, too
definitely
Anyone know what the 3gb update on ptr is?
Thank God for Slayers Tabard
lol
All we need is ones for other class halls and I'm happy
I am getting a "Character with that name already exists" whenever i want to get on my character
Wait for few minutes
Your character is still online, wait a bit until it get disconnected automatically and you can login again
Oh we got map stuf
what isn't it :thonk:
I hope they finaly change the trial of style vote system so that we avoid the premade groups wins
Do we lose all marks of honors when expansion start?
Id imagine so
hey is anyone else having problems with the starter quests in BfA on ptr?
specifically, the areas where you do the quests get reverted back to their original non-BFA locations, thus renderign u unable to do said quests?
cuz thats what happened to me
Did you report it?
i mean you can try leaving the area and relogging, and check if they are still in your journal
tried, didnt work
the portal to Ashran is gone, even
i see people entering it but i cant see nor interact with the portal lol
if i fly to Asrhan its just the regular old version, not the BfA one
im sorry, i kept saying Ashran
i meant Astranaar
i dont think thats live yet
since on ptr the burning of the tree itself hasnt happened
its a bit buggy
so, its the same for everyone? has no one been able to do the quests i just found myself unable to do?
...why would we lose Marks of Honor
no
we dont
you dont lose marks of honor'
theyre a currency
you do have to earn the correct ranking to spend them tho
finally getting to the end of the music list
take a listen to this beauty
I love the "stealth" quest of the horde in sw
So Uldir open on 4 September
Ooh
So wait, if BfA is on the 14th, does that mean we have less than a month before first raid tier opens?
There is 4 dates, 4, 11, 18, 25, but I think they're for lfr wings
It should start on 4
Is raid open from launch?
So raid opens on the 4th, and LFR first wing is open then?
Can't remember if it was always like that
There is 4 dates saying "Uldir Begins" in the calendar, 4 September, 11 September, 18, September, 25 September
So I think each date is for an lfr wing
Wow
I thought Zandalar was going to be boring
But the zone is actually pretty cool
I think July 17 is the prepatch. War of the thorns start June 19 and end July 16 on the PTR / Beta
Doesn't it mean that July 17 is the prepatch and should last around a month just like the PTR / Beta ?
Any info on what War of the Thorns is?
pre-patch testing
i know, but that war of thorns thing
oh no idea
its going to be the darkshore leadup
then burning of teldrassil and darkshore world quests
then siege of lordaeron
july 16th is probably not prepatch
its a monday
the 17th is an option
they fixed the little hole by the flight point at the sliver
ive been reporting that bug once a week for like 4 weeks
looks like Soul Fire got the nerf stick (i guess having 2 chaos bolts on your bar was just too much lol). They fixed a quest turn in with Magni, and chaos bolt still doesn't fire off 2 shots with Havoc
anyone know if they changed island expiditions to not be avail at 116? or if it has any other pre-reqs?
What do you guys think of the login screen? ๐ค
When was it that Uldir opens up?
3 weeks after launch
funky
fury warrs are the cream
She did? XD
yes
Honestly, worgen need tails
- Sharp eyes have caught a slipup in Before the Storm--unlike Genn, I'm only human. I mistakenly pinned a tail on the worgen. @Llorewalker caught it & we thought we'd docked all the tails, but missed one, so there is a vestigial tail in the book. So no, worgen don't have ...
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Secretly they're already working on models that include tails
well,they made working animated tails for vulpera,i bet they can include them in the worgen update
if they really wanted to
already got tails working on a bunch of modified worgen anims with the sethrak
but the sethrak tails have like 12 bones and they're too long
i think the vulpera ones fit them better
having more bones than needed for tails is a good thing, lol
Honestly, Worgen seem awkward without a tail
To be fair to Christie, werewolves have tails in other settings ๐
yeah, to be honest I never thought about it that they dont in WOW ๐
Ok, let's compromise
Orc get upright posture and Elves get golden eyes. Worgen get tail options and night Elves can choose between gold and white.
I mean Im already expecting post-BfA at some point to give each race some new stuff, orcs and belfs included
biggest visual thing people ask for after new races and unrestricted xmog is new base race customization
long tail for draenei has been in the files since tbc but never used ๐ค
So. If alleria is doing upgrades, has our AU Draenei just been replaced? Such as the Rangari
they just took a free NPC already on the boat that isnt a follower and gave them the job
eitrigg doesnt make much sense over grapplehammer or gallywix
so I take it that nothing else has changed. Thanks port.
You mean void glow ?

did anyone happen to test to see if the sky crystal will kill alani instant?
been waiting for her to spawn... its taking forever!
the mole racial for dark iron dwarves gave me the option to go to stormwind or ironforge
after clicking on it i had 1 dialogue which was eastern kingdoms after clicking it i got the option to go to stormwind or ironforge so i assume when you explore places you unlock them
pretty cool
Is anyone elses ptr not working ?
Ogres and High elves have been request as long as each other :x @terse patrol
Back at it again
@hollow dock ye but at least they got in game sort of via blood elves. theres no playable ogres at all tho
Sorry but the orcs are waiting for you. :ionface:
half-elves too then please
half-human half-elf
which means human with blue eyes and elf ears
no thanks on that end.
THE MAN PIG BEAR
It's MANBEARPIG fyi tyvm
what about vrykul tho
we dont have any giants in game
Maybe Half Ogres for the Horde and Half Vrykul for the Alliance
Both can be the "giants" of their faction
Kind of like how Goblins and Gnomes are the midgets of the faction
just make em roughly tauren size
