#beta-ptr-spoilers

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dense plover
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holy shit

sour burrow
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Guardian (Level 26)```

\*cries as he just found this talent and realized it was really useful*
dense plover
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zandalar is like pandaria meets trolls

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so fucking sweet

tropic trail
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By lore mind you

hollow dock
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Port wants the restrictions lifted on artifact mogging, like Mages, Priests, etc have for classes like Frost DK,

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We never spoke of lore

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you placed that in :p

tropic trail
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And I wasn't talking about that XD

zealous basalt
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"Do you really want to shit youreself with this trait?"

hollow dock
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That's not what me and port were talking about

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we're talking about the actual gameplay

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not the lore

tropic trail
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I said that I would like to see Frost DK be able to dual wield 2handers

hollow dock
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Yes they used to be able to

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however

hollow bridge
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We got updated pictures for the dungeons and raid tab

hollow dock
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Balance between the two playstyles is way more work than is worth

zealous basalt
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I want to dual wield elves

dense plover
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starter azerite gear ilvl lowered from 300 to 270 and 275 for quest gear

tropic trail
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I give up

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I'm a lost cause

uncut vault
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I mean they already solved the balance problem in BfA, weapon damage no longer matters for abilities

tropic trail
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Ping me when I'm sober

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Au revoir

uncut vault
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all it matters for is stats and the AA itself

hollow dock
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Unless the ability requires

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a specific weapon

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which most do

dense plover
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holy shit

uncut vault
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I really dont know how else to explain this without insulting so Im just gonna

dense plover
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so much polish

uncut vault
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stop

dense plover
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mailboxes in zandalar work

hollow dock
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You're asking them to do work on something that's not relevant or doesn't matter.

zealous basalt
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kiss already

tropic trail
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I'd rather not

grizzled sleet
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Honor is converting now on beta

zealous basalt
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nani

dense plover
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new elementals for that area in voldun

zealous basalt
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ghost elemental

tropic trail
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My lips are about as sealed as the Tomb of Sargeras was

dense plover
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no more red sha

zealous basalt
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SPOOK

grizzled sleet
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Prestige => Honor works

tropic trail
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Tsk, I think the PvP honor system is becoming account wide, right?

hollow dock
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yup

strange falcon
tropic trail
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Nice

hollow dock
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that's the conversion

ruby star
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Have tbey fixed the floating stuff in bourlas? ๐Ÿ˜‚

zealous basalt
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OGOD

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THAT'S 2 SPOOK

strange falcon
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BOURLAS

tropic trail
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I like it

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I like that tbh

uncut vault
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new anim for opening an azerite item

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very nice

tropic trail
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Ghost elemental looking thicc

hollow dock
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B O U R L A S

uncut vault
zealous basalt
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Bourlas plox

tropic trail
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I'm curious on how they're gonna address burn-out though

hollow bridge
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The stormsong valley music is heavenly..

hollow dock
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you can't address burn-out.

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That's entirely a player problem D=

tropic trail
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did the blood elves leave the alliance in the warcraft games?

hollow dock
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nope

tropic trail
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I know why they joined the horde

hollow dock
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Blood elves didn't exist

tropic trail
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but they would've made a better alliance fit

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Oh wait wait

hollow dock
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Like during Warcraft 1 and 2

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they didn't exist

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inbetween 2 and 3, the High Elves of Quel'thalas left the alliance and seceded

tropic trail
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Warcraft 3 they showed up

hollow dock
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er

tropic trail
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"warcraft games"

hollow dock
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In wacraft 3 they are made.

tropic trail
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Warcraft 1, 2, & 3

hollow dock
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but they aren't apart of the alliance. Blood elves were never apart of the alliance to begin with.

dense plover
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dungeons have their title card art

tropic trail
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I mean, Kael'thas was working with Garithos.

terse patrol
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@hollow dock they were, under garithos

tropic trail
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That was about it.

dense plover
terse patrol
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they left

hollow dock
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Garithos wasn't even in the alliance by all technicality

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he was just what remains of Lordaeron

terse patrol
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tru

tropic trail
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bc I was reading about zuljin and apparently he only joined the horde because the blood elves joined the alliance

terse patrol
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garithos wanted to rule lordaeron im p sure

dense plover
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uldir maps are in

hollow dock
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he did

tropic trail
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And he was a racist jackass

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Who ended up getting rekt

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GG

hollow dock
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Zul'jin joined the horde to kill the HIGH elves yes

dense plover
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zuldazar port has unique music

hollow dock
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in the second war

zealous basalt
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WAIT

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wait

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recklessnesss is not 1h

dense plover
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it has marimba

tropic trail
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Translate

uncut vault
dense plover
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as i ssaid

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recklessness was a bug

uncut vault
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war campaign upgrades

karmic scroll
dense plover
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oh

tropic trail
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Lets hope

dense plover
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yeah

hollow dock
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That's when he joined Orgrim in trying to remove the high elves from his lands, but Orgrim abandoned him. @tropic trail

dense plover
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progression!

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war campaign upgrades!

hollow bridge
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Recklessness is 1 hour for me

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Oh it jsut changed wth

uncut vault
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prices/creation times seem to be lowered for testing

dense plover
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the support polls hanging off the flight area in the port are fixed!

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finally

tropic trail
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"Led by Zul'jin, the Amani trolls joined the Horde during the Second War. They did so in part to fight against the high elves, who had joined the Alliance. " This is why I love Trolls

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:-)

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Still doesn't state blood elves

hollow dock
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Yea. except they were powerless to the elves

tropic trail
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Wait

hollow dock
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and orgrim had to abandon them

tropic trail
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I'm confused again.

uncut vault
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ooh, interesting option

hollow dock
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by what Lilo

uncut vault
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allows you to instantly teleport back to boralus/ataldazar when youre standing next to a flight master

tropic trail
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Everything

neat idol
uncut vault
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yeah its a group buff

dense plover
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oh no

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game crash

uncut vault
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or, should be

tropic trail
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I can't wait to get my horn of winter back

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I get to toot my own horn again

zealous basalt
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Its a bug

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tf

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my game crashed

hollow dock
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does it actually give you a 1h buff tho

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or is it just a text bug

zealous basalt
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Only in the english ver

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In the spanish it says 1h

hollow dock
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rip

zealous basalt
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...10s*

tropic trail
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I mean, if it's a group buff, then it'd be 1h

dense plover
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one of the new teldrassil prepatch tracks

zealous basalt
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THO I WOULD LOVE BETTER ARMOR FOR 110 FRESH CHARACTERS

tropic trail
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They gave crikey armor to all the boosts before hand too

zealous basalt
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This armor is just...

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Not gud

uncut vault
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they relegated Alleria to the order hall upgrade NPC

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

tropic trail
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It's not supposed to be good

zealous basalt
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no no

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like

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aesthethically

tropic trail
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Spoiler alert: Alleria dies

zealous basalt
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I wonder how would Sylvanas feel

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In a crack way

tropic trail
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Probably good

zealous basalt
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If she notices that, even if Alleria was like one or two days older than her

tropic trail
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My sister died. Blood elf dance

zealous basalt
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Now she is millenia older

tropic trail
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I'm curious if Turalyon could age further though

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appearance wise'

zealous basalt
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He looks oof

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Oh look

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Free Azerite change

uncut vault
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@dense plover I think this has been here a while but heres another of the same map, with another island beside it

tropic trail
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A place for a different patch?

dense plover
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tortollans give timewalking stuff

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that island is on some maps in zanddalar too

zealous basalt
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probably

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between the three big continents

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Broken Isles, Zandalar and Kul'Tiras

dense plover
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man this build has so much polish

uncut vault
dense plover
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but im also getting dc'd and crashes

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ooo

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ferry icons

uncut vault
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continent travel points too

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little world icon is the boat to stormwind

zealous basalt
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wat the fuck

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dc'd

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also

uncut vault
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me too

neat idol
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same

ornate pivot
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same

uncut vault
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yeah, went down lol

dense plover
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world server crash

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its buggy

zealous basalt
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I told you to not to push the Char Copy

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look at what you did

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"A block of memory was allocated but never freed"

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:T

hollow bridge
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Free that block of memory!

ornate pivot
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Square to bob, I didn't do it

grizzled sleet
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We're getting Wod timewalking with BFA right?

hollow bridge
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I hope not

zealous basalt
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probably

dense plover
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probably

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which is fine

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good dungeons

grizzled sleet
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an additional way of getting a free seal then

ornate pivot
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I felt confused during that expansion

dense plover
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this is new

uncut vault
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Boralus' music is just so good

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also yeah they made it less obvious that stromgarde isnt the only one

zealous basalt
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Warfronts opened?

uncut vault
zealous basalt
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I have a question

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well

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to the monks in beta

uncut vault
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new war campaign icon

zealous basalt
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LET ME INN BETA

dense plover
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requirement for tier 3 upgrades

uncut vault
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aww theyre moving him back down

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I liked where he was

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eitrigg talking with a valkyr seemed interesting

dense plover
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this one is cool

tropic trail
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Rip

dense plover
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nazmir music has bits of troll starting zone music in it

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๐Ÿ˜„

meager warren
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i think i'm in love with the kul'tiras place names

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but i also love the zandalar place names

jade basalt
meager warren
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secrets community? wot

zealous basalt
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I honestly

hollow dock
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Oh god

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what did he do

meager warren
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that's the real question. murloc

rich apex
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Feaseeeeeeel

zealous basalt
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Prefer pre-legion's Sylvanas model and who is he

hollow dock
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LOL

meager warren
stiff vector
hollow dock
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the secret findings discord is all hyped with the anticipation of a truly sadistic puzzle that puts the Nightmare maze to shame

zealous basalt
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who is jeremy feasel

hollow dock
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Muffins

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he's one of the WoW devs that likes to tease and prod the community

tropic trail
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Muffinus*

zealous basalt
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Wait

hollow dock
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especially the secret findings discord

zealous basalt
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so he is gonna torture them?

hollow dock
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With a truly horrifying puzzle

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is what we're hoping for

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since we solved a secret before it even hit live LOL

zealous basalt
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Worse than the 100 Halls?

hollow dock
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We're hoping it's worse than that maze

zealous basalt
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...Are you sadicts?

stiff vector
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oh man some of this music

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A++++++++++++++++++++

hollow dock
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Cuz Muffin is promising something horrible

meager warren
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why are you hoping that

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stupid

zealous basalt
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...Oh boy

meager warren
hollow dock
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Yup

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and Im loving every bit of it

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Muffins is a great man <3

meager warren
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why tho

steel venture
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nor their fault that the blood serpent was pathetically easy compared to kosumoth or the lucid ngihtmare

zealous basalt
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You sadic girl

dense plover
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all the music

zealous basalt
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We are going to regret it

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You are going to regret this fwiend

dense plover
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voldun music

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so good

meager warren
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saddict*

dense plover
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its very different from the other two zones

grizzled sleet
dense plover
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more forebodng

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totally different instruments

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so great

rich apex
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'worse than the maze'

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internal screaming

meager warren
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@grizzled sleet report it

lean jacinth
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One message removed from a suspended account.

grizzled sleet
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I did, just saying so that you avoid that

meager warren
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no

uncut vault
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oh that is such a nice touch

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the area around daelins statue and grave has jaina's theme from MoP

neat idol
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and.. again

ornate pivot
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lol, that's ok

hollow dock
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I'm not going to regret it yet

dense plover
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oh boy

hollow dock
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that's for future me to regret

dense plover
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all the bugs

hollow dock
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fuck you future me

ornate pivot
hollow dock
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Oh

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Oh my

zealous basalt
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...

neat idol
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Poor maiden

hollow dock
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Jesus

zealous basalt
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That's when I cried at first in the beta

hollow dock
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this is a kids game

uncut vault
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wow they just

steel venture
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"I've been impaled."

uncut vault
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really like killing her

hollow dock
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This is a kids game

steel venture
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...

zealous basalt
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That's for...

meager warren
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this is not a kid's game

zealous basalt
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Where we get the heart?

steel venture
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vris it stopped being a kids game the moment drustvar and nazmir were playtestable

ornate pivot
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yeah

steel venture
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BFA is going in hard on the violence.

zealous basalt
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...

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What the fuck

grizzled sleet
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it stopped being a kids game the moment Anduin became a king

hollow dock
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it stopped being a kids game the moment orcs started to skin night elves

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lets be real here

steel venture
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^ not shown in game

median monolith
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Not sure if anyone has said this yet but the new title screen/music is on the PTR now

zealous basalt
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It stopped being a kids game when Garona was made

grizzled sleet
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@median monolith welcome back from the past

meager warren
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or, the moment people started complaining about "it's not PEACEcraft, it's WARcraft!" when someone suggests neutral factions

hollow dock
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it stopped being a kids game when Llane was assassinated )

uncut vault
ornate pivot
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and when you talk to her

zealous basalt
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Who cares about that

uncut vault
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mount area is new

zealous basalt
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LETS US KILL EVERYONE

ornate pivot
zealous basalt
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drops banter

meager warren
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nobody but you murloc

zealous basalt
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o

uncut vault
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yikes

zealous basalt
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she says something diferent

uncut vault
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they made the guy who sells the mounts a pvp target

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no faction

hollow dock
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@ornate pivot Does she do the whole trying to contact the other titan facilities still?

zealous basalt
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...

meager warren
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screaming internally at those prices

uncut vault
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so no discounts

zealous basalt
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Does that mean

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that everyone can kill him?

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what

meager warren
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Muffinus being a dick because beta testers from before were dicks

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it's a hopeless cycle

hollow dock
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We already posted that Mak

dense plover
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porter

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mount area isnt new

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its been in since launch

hollow dock
dense plover
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and the vendor has been there for at least 6 builds

grizzled sleet
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How can I put the game on windowed without doing it from the game itself?

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because when i do it bug

meager warren
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wat

zealous basalt
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Alt enter

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Yo vris

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Your friend doesnt know what "Beta" means

dense plover
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anyone remember fantasia? and the sorcerer's apprentice?

meager warren
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no

hollow dock
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"Endless halls but each rune room is a pet battle dungeon and each orb room is a mage tower challenge"

From the secrets discord on what this new secret could be

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Future me is gonna be pissed at me

rich apex
dense plover
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old nazmir music is king's rest music

meager warren
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what does your friend think beta means

terse patrol
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i hope the secret gives a mount like usual

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@hollow dock

hollow dock
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it probably will

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but it'll be horrible to get

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and I'm so hopeful for it

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cuz fuck future me. Current me, to become past me, is enjoying this

terse patrol
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if its as good as the nightmare

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worth it

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still my favorite mount to use

rich apex
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U N F

hollow dock
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textured like his

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uh

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HOTS model

tropic trail
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@uncut vault 500k for direhorn repaint ?

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gg blizzard

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paint style

hollow dock
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we wanted gold sinks

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we asked for this

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can't complain that we got it

terse patrol
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^

grizzled sleet
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now bring him back to life

uncut vault
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500k aint that bad for a cool looking direhorn

dense plover
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its not a repaint

tropic trail
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this is cool

dense plover
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its an updated texture

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and has some different armor

hollow dock
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Red horridon?

tropic trail
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armor

hollow dock
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red horridon

tropic trail
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๐Ÿค”

hollow dock
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rerridon

dense plover
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its a variant of the zandalari racial model - thats what costs 500k

hollow dock
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redrrion

zealous basalt
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tameable horridon

dense plover
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that isnt the model

tropic trail
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I think it should be that racial mount

tropic trail
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with armor

dense plover
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thats an old skin

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textures suck

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new direhorn has updated textures

wary frigate
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Anybody else can't log in?

dense plover
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yes

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its a fucking mess

jade basalt
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It is red Horridon. The Zandalari racial mount is a recolor of the MOP dire horn mounts.

dense plover
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not just a recolor

jade basalt
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With a new seat

dense plover
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different textures

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the skin textures are new

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much higher resolution

tropic trail
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Yeah, that's a new texture

dense plover
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the red one has old textures

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those are all old models

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why are you linking these?

tropic trail
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they should have put on armor

dense plover
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they have armor

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its different armor

wild pewter
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I hope the upgrades are represented ingame, like how troops would change in class halls once you've upgraded them

dense plover
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also, the cannons are for war

tropic trail
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@dense plover screen?

dense plover
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we dont use our mounts in combat

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of what?

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look up zandalari direhorn

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it exists on wowhead

dense plover
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its really easy ti fubd'

tropic trail
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where armor?

dense plover
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yeah

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the back?

tropic trail
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๐Ÿค”

dense plover
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the things on the side arent armor dude

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those are cannons

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we dont weaponize our mounts

jade basalt
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It's the same armor as Horridon

neat idol
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Oh

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New spellbook

tropic trail
zealous basalt
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xD

dense plover
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dude

zealous basalt
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Leave the poor dude alone

dense plover
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its been in the game since beta started

tropic trail
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I only see a chair

dense plover
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its not supposed to be an armored mount

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its the allied race mount

neat idol
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and all artifact appeareance in one sheet

dense plover
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its supposed to show racial style

jade basalt
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Yeah those are just ornaments

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Golden shiny thingies

dense plover
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mole machine racial!

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yeah

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it matches the aesthetic

zealous basalt
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Btw

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Wonder if they will add the cloak mechanic?

dense plover
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its a second hearthstone

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stormwind or iron forge

jade basalt
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Sends you to the capitals

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Missing a few

terse patrol
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yaaaaaaas

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Dark irons get a damn portal.

dense plover
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@serene marsh Tier 4 local transportation is wrong

terse patrol
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Their party members can use it

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or raid

dense plover
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you use your flight wwhistle near any flight master

jade basalt
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Dark Iron mages got redundant

dense plover
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and it takes you back to your new capital city

terse patrol
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I might go Dark Iron Shaman then.

hollow dock
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to be fair quiet

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Mages can port to more than Stormwind

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and Ironforge

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and not on a 30 min CD

terse patrol
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tru

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Well appreciated mobility though for every other class though

jade basalt
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Dark Irons probably can too, they're just missing

uncut vault
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maybe you need to discover the spots

terse patrol
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nah

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Dark Irons only get ports to the two dwarf areas

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Areas that make sense

jade basalt
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Nah.

uncut vault
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but if its just those two

terse patrol
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though

jade basalt
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Because there's an option for Eastern Kingdoms. Wouldn't make sense if there was no other continent planned to be an option.

uncut vault
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why do we need to specifically open EK

terse patrol
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A port to the Dark Iron racial hub seems logical

hollow dock
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flavor?

dense plover
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goblin music from the motherlode!

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so fun

tropic trail
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I like chocolate

hollow dock
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I do too

zealous basalt
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shesh

dense plover
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in soviet azeroth, goblin pays you

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oh geez

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some of the music is inspired by powerhouse

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๐Ÿ˜„

zealous basalt
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wait

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HOW DIDN'T I NOTICE THAT JUDMENT GIVES 1 HOLY POWER

dense plover
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this is my favorite goblin music next to brewfest

uncut vault
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I really like that they updated the kul tiran music to be more than brass

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all the different drums and violin make it so much more diverse

tropic trail
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oh wow particles are broken on the ptr

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everything is a pink box

dense plover
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everything is broken

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but we have music

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and world holes were fixed

tropic trail
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please tell me other people see this

dense plover
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wait

tropic trail
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and it isnt a wine issue

dense plover
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all particles?

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that sounds like a you issue

hollow bridge
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The nazmir music is so nice

tropic trail
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yeah

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i think its wine

dense plover
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whats wine?

tropic trail
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trying to run the ptr on linux is a recipe for disaster

dense plover
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oh

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yeah no that wont work for sure

tropic trail
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wine is a compatibility layer for runnning windows programs on linux

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oh well

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cant hurt to test things

tropic trail
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looks like it was only the menu anyways

uncut vault
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๐Ÿ˜ฉ

dense plover
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waycrest music is on organ

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perfect

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๐Ÿ‘Œ

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Phantom of Waycrest Manor

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literally inspired by phantom of the opera

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i had no clue the drustvar theme they used was this

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they mustve made this

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then used it for the drustvar theme

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๐Ÿ˜„

uncut vault
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looks like we might be getting a microholiday on kul tiras

dense plover
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i figured it was just a world quest in the mountains

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they recently added an icy slide on one

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and it would make sense to race penguins down it

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they have music for the Dive Bars

hollow dock
dense plover
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i hope they do that ui for all artifacts

#

not just druid

lethal gulch
#

did they just sneak nerf war mode rewards?

dense plover
#

its not a nerf if it wasnt live

#

its a tweak

#

๐Ÿ˜›

#

there are 3 different dive bar songs

#

all are completely different

lethal gulch
#

semantics

uncut vault
#

the jukebox songs are great

#

all this music is actually canon

dense plover
#

yep

#

๐Ÿ˜„

#

ooo, so a lot of the old drustvar music is back but they added a lot of new variations with different instruments

#

definitely will spice up the music in that zone

#

hey guys?

#

does this sound like a different piece of music?

#

it reminds me of older wow music

#

but i cant figure out why

#

isnt it a spin on an old track?

meager warren
#

Nightmare druids? murloc happy

#

undead druds when

dense plover
#

oh shit

#

it is valsharah isnt it

uncut vault
#

they implemented the drood stuff

#

forced to use fist weps ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

dense plover
#

is this a twist on valsharah music?

#

i think it is

uncut vault
#

it is

dense plover
#

awesome

#

drustvar druid music

#

cool

mint holly
#

build is downloading, that mean realms are finally up?

hollow bridge
#

ye

meager warren
dense plover
#

realms have been up

mint holly
#

bout time

dense plover
#

theyve been a mess

tropic trail
#

That's not undead though?

meager warren
#

it's the opposite of dream

#

exactly

#

so

tropic trail
#

The emerald nightmare doesn't consist of only dead things..

meager warren
#

...you're missing my point entirely

dense plover
#

theres a night theme too

#

so witcher

steel venture
#

... you'd be better off using kul tiran druid forms as a point for undead druids

#

since the drust and by extension, kul tiran druids--literally use druidic death magic

dense plover
#

i mean

#

its more like they believe death is a part of the cycle

#

its not death magic

tropic trail
#

Yeah, being a cat made from twigs isn't death magic

meager warren
#

...did you miss the huge-ass skull on said cat

dense plover
#

its drust druid magic

#

it still has life

#

its a mix

steel venture
#

drust literally pervert life and twist it

dense plover
#

its about a balance between life and death

steel venture
#

????

hollow dock
#

the drust do.

dense plover
#

drust druids do not

hollow dock
#

the Druids dont

grizzled sleet
#

May the drust guide you

dense plover
#

the druids believe there is a balance between life and death

meager warren
#

"May the nightmare be ever in your favor"

hollow dock
#

the druids, from before the current drust, are about balance in life and death

tropic trail
#

Oops, pardon me, I'm just allergic to drust.

dense plover
#

that death is neccesary for others to live

steel venture
#

I mean I know but what I'm saying is, don't use NIGHTMARE to try to justify undeath in druidism.

dense plover
#

we arent

#

at all

#

we are saying you are wrong tho

#

because the game literally says so

grizzled sleet
#

So, if you're playing a Balance Kultiran druid, you're balancing 2 things at the same time

dense plover
#

drust druids believe in a balance

#

instead of just being about life

tropic trail
#

Like discipline priests

dense plover
#

they believe death must come so other things can be stronger

#

if everything lives, nothing grows, nothing changes

#

no death means no growth

#

hence death being part of the cycle

hollow dock
#

basically a rehashing of Pandaria's point. Where you need adversity for growth

tropic trail
#

Thanks Xuen.

#

:^)

hollow dock
#

im noticing a pattern

meager warren
#

well death is a part of life.
in the end, all things die, even druids so it isn't really unbelievable to think that an undead druid is possible and might exist in WoW's lore somewhere even if it's been hidden so far

hollow dock
#

they implement subtle themes and points

#

and we just ignore them

hollow dock
#

so they beat us over the head with em

uncut vault
#

theyre remasters of OG nelf zone music right

dense plover
#

some are

tropic trail
#

Sure

dense plover
#

yes

#

islands have unique music

#

peppy music!

#

god

#

they nailed how all music doesnt need to have the same theme

#

and how it should be relevant to the task

tropic trail
#

WoD had the best music

dense plover
#

that was legions main issue starting at the broken shore

tropic trail
#

Change my mind

uncut vault
#

the call to arms in the alliance warfront music

#

๐Ÿ‘Œ

dense plover
#

havent gotten that far yet

meager warren
#

"WoD had the best music change my mind"
no.

dense plover
#

i think this was part of the login screen music

#

not all of it

#

but pieces

tropic trail
#

Not my fault

#

I'm a slut for percussion

dense plover
#

warlords had very good music

#

it just had no end game content

tropic trail
#

Sounds familiar

uncut vault
#

call to arms on the bloody piano

#

I love whoever this new composer is

tropic trail
#

It's Chris Metzen

grizzled sleet
#

no Naaru Music, but the Naaru haven't forgotten us

dense plover
#

naaru arent relevant

#

why would they have music?

grizzled sleet
#

that thing with Calia

dense plover
#

thats not in game

meager warren
#

Naaru don't care about petty mortalkind

dense plover
#

thats in the book

grizzled sleet
#

They won't add it in-game in another patch if Calia is somehow important?

#

not the scene but something about the story

dense plover
#

i mean

#

she might be relevant eventually

#

but it isnt going to take place in the priest order hall

#

order halls are done

#

those new warlock animations are snazzy

uncut vault
#

wont be in 8.0 either

dense plover
#

^

uncut vault
#

plus if theyre gonna add calia music

#

its gonna be lordaeron themed

dense plover
#

^

uncut vault
#

for whoever liked WoD's drums a ton

dense plover
#

lordaeron horde music too

#

its so good

#

alliance music is good too

#

it just doesnt have the percussion

uncut vault
#

oh god finally

#

player illidari tabard

meager warren
#

cooot

dense plover
#

oh damn

#

nazmir music is completely different

#

guess using it for kings rest meant replacing it

#

cool

tropic trail
#

damn the login music is amazing

dense plover
#

all the music is amazing

#

havent run into a bad track yet

uncut vault
#

cool bug on beta

dense plover
#

whats the bug? the hammer with shield?

uncut vault
#

yeah the artifact pair thing only applies to the main hand

dense plover
#

yeah i noticed

#

which sucks

#

i want to mog my fists

#

the first weapons suck

terse patrol
#

REEEEE GIB PLAYABLE OGRES

uncut vault
#

is it a consumable?

#

cause if not

grizzled sleet
dense plover
#

lots of new models

#

and a few recolors

#

and a few old models that were unused

terse patrol
#

Its a consumable @uncut vault

dense plover
#

naga polearm

terse patrol
#

Weird though that they put it in

#

Blizzard keeps putting in little ogre things in BFA

grizzled sleet
#

these ilvl 325 from island expeditions are from what difficulty?

mint holly
#

omggg i give up, the DCs are strong on the beta realms tonight

dense plover
#

probably normal lvl 120

#

maybe heroic

#

def not mythic

zealous basalt
#

Hmm

#

I lost a quest

grizzled sleet
#

so island expeditions are the best way of getting a 340 weapon when BFA launch (aside from mythic dungeons) ?

dense plover
#

yes?

#

mythic dungeons are better

#

and probably have a higher drop chance

zealous basalt
#

The quest I was grabbing didn't go to the log

dense plover
#

this weapon tho

uncut vault
#

recolor of the monkey king staff

#

finally

grizzled sleet
#

You can only run mythics once a week, but I believe island expeditions don't havee that limit, or maybe yes?

uncut vault
#

they dont

dense plover
#

you can run regular mythics over and over

#

regular mythic gives higher ilvl then mythic islands i think

grizzled sleet
#

you can't on live

#

just on beta

dense plover
#

also islands dont have guaranteed gear drop do they?

#

wait

#

im pretty sure mythic

#

not mythic +2

#

you get loot normally

#

dont you?

grizzled sleet
#

on beta you can run unlimited mythic+0 per week, but on live it's limited to 1 loot per boss per week

dense plover
#

really?

#

huh

hollow dock
#

recolor of the twilight's hammer two handed weapon

#

It's only been 8 years

grizzled sleet
#

they said that the unlimited loot on mythic is only for beta for quick gearing

dense plover
#

oh

#

hmmm

#

these might be from heroic or mythic islands

#

and again

#

drop chance isnt guaranteed for islands i dont think

#

in mythic you always get loot

zealous basalt
#

That balance

grizzled sleet
#

Ok murloc

zealous basalt
#

...and of course

hollow dock
#

anyone think our Heart of Azeroth is going to get placed back into Azeroth to be her sort of pacemaker?

zealous basalt
#

Shit is in game

hollow dock
#

to fix her irregular heartbeat

#

and all that

dense plover
#

i think we will end up dumping the azerite back in

zealous basalt
#

There had to be a quest with shit

dense plover
#

thats what we do during the intro for the heart

#

akways

hollow dock
#

there's always 1 quest in every expansion

#

that deals

#

with poop

zealous basalt
#

I wonder if in the end she will just

#

poop out the sword

grizzled sleet
#

Next artifact after Heart of Azeroth : The Soul of N'Zoth

#

Absorbing void energy to heal the world

ornate pivot
#

Sorry, @hollow dock I was dealing with a chinchilla issue. No, she doesn't try to contact the other facilities, not that I've seen, but I have seen that dialogue

zealous basalt
#

Oh

hollow dock
#

yea not that she physcailly tries

zealous basalt
#

There are different graphics options now

hollow dock
#

just that she still gives that dialogue

grizzled sleet
#

What graphic options?

zealous basalt
#

Rendering scale has gone back to advanced

dense plover
#

taverns have jukeboxes, but they also have shanty themes

zealous basalt
#

Boralus got fixed

#

yay

#

wat the fuck is this music

dense plover
#

which music?

#

all of it is so good!

ornate pivot
#

^

dense plover
#

its egyptian, horde, and unique at the same time

#

so good

ornate pivot
#

Sounds like they had fun making it, too

dense plover
#

definitely

stone seal
#

Anyone know what the 3gb update on ptr is?

dense plover
#

new build

#

mostly beta stuff, but there are class changes and bug fixes

uncut vault
#

i dunno man, from that title it sounds pretty distinctly alliance

#

๐Ÿ˜‰

wild pewter
#

Thank God for Slayers Tabard

dense plover
#

lol

wild pewter
#

All we need is ones for other class halls and I'm happy

zealous basalt
#

I am getting a "Character with that name already exists" whenever i want to get on my character

grizzled sleet
#

Wait for few minutes

#

Your character is still online, wait a bit until it get disconnected automatically and you can login again

zealous basalt
#

Oh we got map stuf

grizzled sleet
meager warren
#

what isn't it :thonk:

grizzled sleet
#

I hope they finaly change the trial of style vote system so that we avoid the premade groups wins

#

Do we lose all marks of honors when expansion start?

hollow dock
#

Id imagine so

subtle mason
#

hey is anyone else having problems with the starter quests in BfA on ptr?

#

specifically, the areas where you do the quests get reverted back to their original non-BFA locations, thus renderign u unable to do said quests?

#

cuz thats what happened to me

untold fractal
#

Did you report it?

subtle mason
#

yea

#

i tried to re-acquire the quests but now i dont see them anywhere

untold fractal
#

i mean you can try leaving the area and relogging, and check if they are still in your journal

subtle mason
#

tried, didnt work

#

the portal to Ashran is gone, even

#

i see people entering it but i cant see nor interact with the portal lol

#

if i fly to Asrhan its just the regular old version, not the BfA one

#

im sorry, i kept saying Ashran

#

i meant Astranaar

dense plover
#

i dont think thats live yet

#

since on ptr the burning of the tree itself hasnt happened

#

its a bit buggy

subtle mason
#

so, its the same for everyone? has no one been able to do the quests i just found myself unable to do?

dense plover
#

lol, are the warfront walk themes rehashed warcraft music?

#

thats great

rich apex
#

...why would we lose Marks of Honor

dense plover
#

no

#

we dont

#

you dont lose marks of honor'

#

theyre a currency

#

you do have to earn the correct ranking to spend them tho

#

finally getting to the end of the music list

#

take a listen to this beauty

zealous basalt
#

I love the "stealth" quest of the horde in sw

grizzled sleet
urban dew
#

Ooh

#

So wait, if BfA is on the 14th, does that mean we have less than a month before first raid tier opens?

grizzled sleet
#

There is 4 dates, 4, 11, 18, 25, but I think they're for lfr wings

#

It should start on 4

urban dew
#

Is raid open from launch?

grizzled sleet
#

no

#

3 weeks after launch

urban dew
#

So raid opens on the 4th, and LFR first wing is open then?

#

Can't remember if it was always like that

grizzled sleet
#

There is 4 dates saying "Uldir Begins" in the calendar, 4 September, 11 September, 18, September, 25 September

#

So I think each date is for an lfr wing

zealous basalt
#

Wow

#

I thought Zandalar was going to be boring

#

But the zone is actually pretty cool

grizzled sleet
#

I think July 17 is the prepatch. War of the thorns start June 19 and end July 16 on the PTR / Beta
Doesn't it mean that July 17 is the prepatch and should last around a month just like the PTR / Beta ?

urban dew
#

Any info on what War of the Thorns is?

grizzled sleet
#

Prepatch events

#

it has the teldrassil image so it's certainly the prepatch event

zealous basalt
#

So, how do we go there?

#

Does someone know what is happening in the PTR?

topaz moss
#

pre-patch testing

zealous basalt
#

i know, but that war of thorns thing

topaz moss
#

oh no idea

dense plover
#

its going to be the darkshore leadup

#

then burning of teldrassil and darkshore world quests

#

then siege of lordaeron

#

july 16th is probably not prepatch

#

its a monday

#

the 17th is an option

dense plover
#

they fixed the little hole by the flight point at the sliver

#

ive been reporting that bug once a week for like 4 weeks

crimson plover
#

looks like Soul Fire got the nerf stick (i guess having 2 chaos bolts on your bar was just too much lol). They fixed a quest turn in with Magni, and chaos bolt still doesn't fire off 2 shots with Havoc

daring lodge
#

anyone know if they changed island expiditions to not be avail at 116? or if it has any other pre-reqs?

sage night
#

What do you guys think of the login screen? ๐Ÿค”

uncut vault
sage night
#

Eh

#

Lol

urban dew
#

When was it that Uldir opens up?

cinder knoll
#

3 weeks after launch

uncut vault
ruby star
#

Ooooo

#

Alleria gives you quests now

#

to research upgrade

strange falcon
#

funky

uncut vault
#

is this raging blow anim new?

#

I like it a lot

sullen dagger
#

fury warrs are the cream

tropic trail
#

๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

#

Nice dreaming Christie

ruby star
#

Yeah that was a mistake

#

she tweeted about it

tropic trail
#

She did? XD

ruby star
#

yes

tropic trail
#

Honestly, worgen need tails

ruby star
tropic trail
#

Secretly they're already working on models that include tails

strange falcon
#

well,they made working animated tails for vulpera,i bet they can include them in the worgen update

#

if they really wanted to

uncut vault
#

already got tails working on a bunch of modified worgen anims with the sethrak

strange falcon
#

but the sethrak tails have like 12 bones and they're too long

#

i think the vulpera ones fit them better

uncut vault
#

having more bones than needed for tails is a good thing, lol

urban dew
#

Honestly, Worgen seem awkward without a tail

cinder knoll
#

panda female also have tail

#

like, if you choose red panda version ๐Ÿ˜„

rich apex
#

To be fair to Christie, werewolves have tails in other settings ๐Ÿ˜›

cinder knoll
#

yeah, to be honest I never thought about it that they dont in WOW ๐Ÿ˜„

tropic trail
#

Ok, let's compromise

#

Orc get upright posture and Elves get golden eyes. Worgen get tail options and night Elves can choose between gold and white.

strange falcon
#

upright orcs and golden eyes are already a thing though

#

๐Ÿค”

uncut vault
#

I mean Im already expecting post-BfA at some point to give each race some new stuff, orcs and belfs included

#

biggest visual thing people ask for after new races and unrestricted xmog is new base race customization

strange falcon
#

long tail for draenei has been in the files since tbc but never used ๐Ÿค”

hollow dock
#

So. If alleria is doing upgrades, has our AU Draenei just been replaced? Such as the Rangari

uncut vault
#

they just took a free NPC already on the boat that isnt a follower and gave them the job

#

eitrigg doesnt make much sense over grapplehammer or gallywix

hollow dock
#

so I take it that nothing else has changed. Thanks port.

uncut vault
#

azerite got a few more touch ups, more of an arcane glow now

grizzled sleet
#

You mean void glow ? murloc murloc murloc murloc

forest mango
#

did anyone happen to test to see if the sky crystal will kill alani instant?

#

been waiting for her to spawn... its taking forever!

fossil rover
#

the mole racial for dark iron dwarves gave me the option to go to stormwind or ironforge

#

after clicking on it i had 1 dialogue which was eastern kingdoms after clicking it i got the option to go to stormwind or ironforge so i assume when you explore places you unlock them

tropic trail
#

pretty cool

terse patrol
#

@uncut vault

tropic trail
#

oooof

#

you forgot naga fans

scarlet cloak
#

Is anyone elses ptr not working ?

hollow dock
#

Ogres and High elves have been request as long as each other :x @terse patrol

tropic trail
#

Back at it again

terse patrol
#

@hollow dock ye but at least they got in game sort of via blood elves. theres no playable ogres at all tho

hollow dock
#

Sorry but the orcs are waiting for you. :ionface:

frozen dust
#

We get Rexxar as an allied race

#

We just have to share

hollow dock
#

Yea I do hope you guys get half-ogres at least

#

it's more than we helves will get.

grizzled sleet
#

half-elves too then please

#

half-human half-elf

#

which means human with blue eyes and elf ears

hollow dock
#

no thanks on that end.

zealous basalt
#

Half orcs

#

Quarter human

#

Quarter draenei

hollow dock
#

no

#

never

#

NEVER

sullen dagger
#

THE MAN PIG BEAR

hollow dock
#

It's MANBEARPIG fyi tyvm

sullen dagger
#

HAHA

#

that

tropic trail
#

what about vrykul tho

#

we dont have any giants in game

#

Maybe Half Ogres for the Horde and Half Vrykul for the Alliance

#

Both can be the "giants" of their faction

#

Kind of like how Goblins and Gnomes are the midgets of the faction

hollow dock
#

maybe.

#

I'd rather full racials for Ogres and Vrykul though \

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

tropic trail
#

Full racials?

#

OH

#

Okay yeah

#

but there might be size problems

hollow dock
#

just make em roughly tauren size