beta-ptr-spoilers

[hollow dock]

It's heavily implied they fucked

[dense plover]

^

like i realize its crude

but yeah, she brought him back because she likes him

[mint arch]

how do they fck? arent undead... no blood?

[tropic trail]

likes him

[dense plover]

and then she gave him that body

[tropic trail]

doesnt mean they're doing eachother

[dense plover]

lets not qquestion these things

[hollow dock]

not right now Rys

[tropic trail]

I can think of a few ways they could fuck.

[dense plover]

this channel isnt nsfw

[tropic trail]

...

[hollow dock]

but when they were alive

[mint arch]

xD

[dense plover]

we could literally get banned from discord

[tropic trail]

its world of warcraft not fifty shades of grey

[dense plover]

not from this channel

[mint arch]

no we wont

[tropic trail]

Fifty Shades of Dead

[dense plover]

from all of discord

[hollow dock]

Again it's just heavily implied that when they were alive Rys, they were a couple. they slept together.

all that good stuff.

[dense plover]

its against discord rules to discuss nsfw stuff when a cchannel isnt marked nsfw

[mint arch]

...

[tropic trail]

its world of warcraft though

[dense plover]

just be careful is what im saying

[tropic trail]

not some intense romance novel

O

[mint arch]

ive talked NSFW stuff in normal discords

[hollow dock]

It doesn't go into detail Rys

[mint arch]

its just text

[hollow dock]

It just implies it

[dense plover]

^

[mint arch]

images/videos, ok i can see a point there

[tropic trail]

Detail is for Steamy Romance Novels

[hollow dock]

^

also that

[dense plover]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/story/short-story/dark-mirror

[hollow dock]

The steamy romance novels exist

[dense plover]

literally read it

[tropic trail]

its one of those situations where the readers think too much of it

[hollow dock]

and also don't forget that in Highmountain

you see Marcus

alive and in the flesh

[tropic trail]

Marcus..

[hollow dock]

walking out from a three way

[dense plover]

oh yeah

lol

[tropic trail]

And then you got gay couples in Suramar with children.

also that link didnt bring me anywhere

[dense plover]

you do?

thats great

[tropic trail]

just brought me to the wow front page

[dense plover]

i didnt know there were same-sex couples in suramar

[hollow dock]

https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/template_resource/N2AKXLMJQPFT1492469483982.pdf this is the download link for the PDF of the story Rys

[dense plover]

^

[hollow dock]

Oh I just realized there's a countdown on the bottom of the screen

[sour burrow]

There are crossdressing Vulpera. Though I think that's just a bug...

[hollow dock]

for BFA's release

[tropic trail]

I feel like gay couples are surprisingly lacking from WoW

[hollow dock]

they are

it's localization

[dense plover]

^

[hollow dock]

since WoW is in countries like Russia

and China

where it's not really allowed

[dense plover]

itll probably become more common as time goes on

[tropic trail]

True.

But you got games like Overwatch

Where they detail it in comics, not so much in-game

[hollow dock]

oh yea and Tracer being gay stirred up a lot

[dense plover]

and then people stopped caring

[sour burrow]

Meh....

[mint holly]

Star Wars the Old Republic has several NPC's of the same sex that you can romance or have a fling with, is that game not in those countries?

[dense plover]

because you shouldnt care. it shouldnt change your opinion of a character

[sour burrow]

Would rather such things not be overemphasized.

[dense plover]

thats bioware

[mint arch]

as long as u dont push gay couples in ppl's faces, no one will care

[tropic trail]

Could also do that in Saint's Row

[dense plover]

they let you fuck a wooden lamp if you wanted to

[hollow dock]

Bioware is different. Somehow they get away with it.

[languid yoke]

well China banned a section of the Eurovision Song Contest this year where two men held hands

[dense plover]

thats because they dont care

bioware lets you bed anyone

and everyone

[languid yoke]

so uh go figure what that means, shewildwolf :D

[hollow dock]

yea pretty much

[languid yoke]

apparently swtor is not released in china

[tropic trail]

But you can assume there is same sex couples in Suramar

[dense plover]

it wouldnt surprise me

[mint arch]

assume?

[hollow dock]

I actually imagine that it's more enforced

Less same sex couples is less children

[dense plover]

trapped under a dome, way too many children and parents keep getting exiled

also that

[hollow dock]

which is less food to sustain a trapped population

[dense plover]

same sex couples means less children

[mint arch]

how would u know if they were gay btw?

is it shown?

or in text?

[tropic trail]

Eh, not quite.

[hollow dock]

The female nightborne

Lilo, two females can't create a child. Not without a male. :p

[tropic trail]

But you can assume it's something if you see two males walking along side eachother with a child.

[hollow dock]

that's the idea of it.

[tropic trail]

I know.

But adoption exists.

[hollow dock]

yea it does.

[mint arch]

i mean... 2 dudes walking with a kid is...

[hollow dock]

but adoption doesnt' create a new child

[tropic trail]

Bet.

[hollow dock]

it moves one child into a new home

[mint arch]

could be brothers, cousins, friends, w/e

[hollow dock]

is the point m e and peach are making

also Void

the female nightborne is interested in Tyrande

[tropic trail]

You take a kid and beat him over the head a few times, he'll be different

[mint arch]

i know about the nightborne VA

[mint holly]

.... several people are typing... lol we really are getting anxious

[mint arch]

ya

[sour burrow]

Condoms are also useful. Also cultures that suppress birth control will end up with higher population and cultural dominance. In essence.

[tropic trail]

I'm curious.

[sour burrow]

So it'd have to be a world problem.

[tropic trail]

Do each race have 'racial' condoms?

[noble zinc]

why is beta still down

[mint arch]

also suramar is kinda the last place to assume this, since its more likely families have been torn apart

[tropic trail]

But it could work

[dense plover]

build is still coming

eventualy

[mint arch]

sure, it could work ya

[tropic trail]

Timmy Bluefire gets lonely and can't find a female

Know what you do?

[mint arch]

i guess, but the general atmosphere of the nightborne when we meet em is desperation

xD

[hollow dock]

Well void, the idea right

[tropic trail]

And then you got blood elves that have confirmed gay people in their society.

[hollow dock]

is that if you have a popualtion that's constantly breeding

without war or famine or any way to cull the population

without actually culling them

you'd run out of space and food. Especially when boxed up

[mint arch]

well, sure

[hollow dock]

How do you avoid this? You enforce alternatives.

[tropic trail]

Unless you're a mage.

[mint arch]

doesnt mean ppl will suddenly go gay

[hollow dock]

We're not saying that

at all

[mint arch]

u enforce safe sex

and limit child

like some countries do

[tropic trail]

Yes, Elisande breaks into every house and make sure they're protected.

[hollow dock]

We're saying its more likely that the government of Suramar ENCOURAGES same sex couplies

[mint arch]

before forcing ppl to go gay xD

[hollow dock]

We're not saying forced

ffs

[tropic trail]

Encouraging is not forcing.

I feel like there's a joke there, but I'm not touching it.

[mint arch]

lol, so the most likely option to control population = "encourage" same sex xD

[hollow dock]

...

Alright if you're not taking it seriously I'll stop

[tropic trail]

......

[mint arch]

lol

im just amused that u think that is a legit strategy

[tropic trail]

Looks at real world examples of control population

did lorthemar have a crush on sylvanas or something

Notes how all of them banned gay rights

[hollow dock]

Again Im not bothering anymore

[mint arch]

crush on sylvanas 🤢

[hollow dock]

you guys enjoy.

[tropic trail]

How about this

[hollow dock]

Lor'themar hates sylvanas

what are you smoking

[sour burrow]

Thing is, that's not the only way. Japan doesn't encourage such things even if they have otaku culture that are entertained by it. But yet they have a declining birth rate.

[hollow dock]

It isn't tobia

tobias

[tropic trail]

Lor'themar is jealous of Nathanos

[hollow dock]

that's why I said LIKELY

jesus

[tropic trail]

Yeah, didn't Lor'themar have a talk with her about leaving his people alone on the ground before making them into zombies?

[mint arch]

how does a government even "encourage" same sex?

[tropic trail]

"it's hinted at"

[hollow dock]

You promote it. You're a totalitarian government, you have complete control over everything

[tropic trail]

this chat is fucked

because no one can stop arguing for a second

Insert joke

[hollow dock]

I wanted to just drop it

but void wants to keep it going

[sour burrow]

Through the entertainment sector. We see slight signs of it in current American culture.

[tropic trail]

So because someone keeps going that means it's your duty, as a regular, to continue arguing

[mint arch]

ok, with total control why would governments jump to gayness? trying to change ppl's sexuality is harder than just enforcing birth limits or safe sex or w/e

lol

[tropic trail]

Eh, I'm still here to talk about it.

Actually, not really.

if I was taught that as a kid, I would've been fucked

Hopefully not literally..

[mint arch]

o.o

[dense plover]

#no-wow-discussion ?

[tropic trail]

Tsk

[mint arch]

lol

[tropic trail]

Where's Naz'jatar?

If I'm thinking correctly

....

#russian please

[hollow dock]

again Im not bothering at this point

I say its an implication. that's all. It's a possbility.

[tropic trail]

It's possible that they're not.

[hollow dock]

Naz'jatar is somewhere like.

[tropic trail]

Who knows?

[hollow dock]

between EK and the maelstrom

last I knew.

[tropic trail]

But it never was confirmed EXACTLY where it was?

Only a general location?

Bloody hell, if I had a nickle for everytime someone said "again" "to be fair" "we're not saying/i'm not saying"

[hollow dock]

Oh

[tropic trail]

I'd be rich

[hollow dock]

Oh it was confirmed

[tropic trail]

If I a nickel for everytime you had "I" in your sentences.

had*

Ack.

[hollow dock]

Naz'jatar is the former city of Zin'azshari

[tropic trail]

Thats a letter though

lmao

[dense plover]

we dont know where nazjatar is following cata

[sour burrow]

Lol ryswell should take a job in customer service so that he can learn all the language subtleties they teach.

[dense plover]

it should be near the maelstrom

but it couldve moved

[hollow dock]

yea. In the Sundering it was noted to be below the maelstrom

but the cataclysm moved everything in the world

so we dont know if it's still there

[tropic trail]

And also stupid question, is there any obvious damage on Zandalar from Cata?

[dense plover]

I dont know if we will see nazjatar, but my naga island theory is this

[hollow dock]

yes

[tropic trail]

Sorry for the rapid fire questions

[dense plover]

yes'

[hollow dock]

the swamp

[dense plover]

nazmir

[tropic trail]

Just trying to bury the former talk

[hollow dock]

that was the sinking of Zandalar

[mint arch]

I say its an implication. that's all. It's a possbility. and ya, im saying its an extremely small and unlikely "possibility" cause there are other more effective ways to control population

[tropic trail]

I knew it was sinking, but I was just asking if there was any 'after-terms' from it

We're moving on from that

[hollow dock]

stop void

[dense plover]

https://i.imgur.com/uhCXxOP.jpg

[hollow dock]

please

[tropic trail]

Bury it

[hollow dock]

we've said multiple times to just move on

[mint arch]

lol

[dense plover]

1 is where i think naga place will be

2 is the other possibility

[tropic trail]

Hmm

I think that second spot is a little off imo

[dense plover]

1 because it is in between all recent naga activity

2 is related to the missing island north of nazmir

[sour burrow]

Likely or not doesn't mean crap when it comes to cultures. Take a look at the odd cultures on Earth. Who knows what weird things would become a cultural thing. Just because it isn't what we would do doesn't mean a culture can't reach a different conclusion.

[dense plover]

it was there in early beta

then mostly removed

[tropic trail]

I would place two more south of Eye of Azshara

[dense plover]

except for the edge

which is still there

[hollow dock]

Oh jesus fuck

Move on

[tropic trail]

Don't do it Void

I swear to god

[mint arch]

but...i...must

;_;

[tropic trail]

I will come to your house and feast on your soul.

[hollow dock]

dont do that

you'll catch their weebism

[mint arch]

its too juicy a reply for me to counter

[tropic trail]

I'm countering your counter.

[dense plover]

2 is based on this

[tropic trail]

Stay buried

[dense plover]

https://i.imgur.com/KnIf9tV.png

this was removed

but part of it is still there

[sour burrow]

Culture is a weird thing. And it's easy to apply our own cultural expectations. And yes, that was mostly removed except some random sunken ruins within fatigue.

[tropic trail]

I would still place is below Eye of Azshara due to the heavy naga forces in both Broken Shore and Azsuna

[dense plover]

https://i.imgur.com/79REkAa.png

see?

[sour burrow]

And damned it all where is the build?!?

[dense plover]

but there are also heavy naga forces on the east of zandalar

[mint arch]

/wants to reply to Tobias

[dense plover]

and the south and north of kul tiras

[sour burrow]

Yeah, fighting them off with the Tortollan.

[dense plover]

mostly the west of kul tiras tho

[mint arch]

new build btw?

[dense plover]

like, 1 is the center of all activitty

2 is based on the nazmir island

why keep that weird edge if it wasnt important

new build eventually

its coming

we dont know when

[mint arch]

think we'll get teldrassil with this one?

[dense plover]

ptr realmlist just went up

[tropic trail]

Comes a week later

[dense plover]

so soon

same build for both beta and ptr

[hollow dock]

so that maybe means class changes as well?

[tropic trail]

Still wants Dark Iron death knights

[hollow dock]

https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/wowpedia/thumb/b/b3/Goblin_area_situated_on_the_map.jpg/800px-Goblin_area_situated_on_the_map.jpg?version=5e5870dcbe230b9e2a417843b541179d early map of WoW in vanilla

Remember when EK was called Azeroth?

[tropic trail]

Barely

I never looked at the older versions of the map

[dense plover]

that whole map is garbo

[tropic trail]

^

[hollow dock]

It is

cuz it's a concept map for vanilla

Drawn on some employee's white erase board

[uncut vault]

both kul tiras and zandalar have islands off their coast hinted at

[languid yoke]

kezan as its own continent LUL

[hollow dock]

The continent of Azeroth

[languid yoke]

rip that idea

[hollow dock]

LuL

[tropic trail]

I want to be able to explore Kezan w/o the instance tbh

[languid yoke]

play a goblin that refuses to finish quests

[tropic trail]

Especially in the volcano

[languid yoke]

he's just too greedy

[uncut vault]

theres a map in tol dagor that has an island south of freehold, it is circled, along with all areas where old gods/naga are involved on kul tiras

doesnt show up on any other map

[dense plover]

hmmm

so that matches my 1 right?

[hollow dock]

it matches it if you follow your heart

=3

[tropic trail]

Has no heart

Oh..

[uncut vault]

https://gyazo.com/c576bd73b20d2af9f2020b7edc8ac9a7

[dense plover]

hmmmm

is that island even there?

[sour burrow]

It's circled, lol

[dense plover]

i mean in game

[tropic trail]

Waits for Tel'Abim

[sour burrow]

Could be freehold before it was attached to the mainland?

[dense plover]

no

freehold is on that map

my guess is its just art

theres no evidence of anything there in any build

and its so small

[tropic trail]

It's like that one Farahlon

Useless

A waste of time

[grizzled sleet]

Waist of time

[tropic trail]

That's Nozdormu

[grizzled sleet]

[dense plover]

btw

been reading

zinazshari was mostly destroyed

pieces exist in azsuna and azshara - huge city

but nazjatar was a new city

it was built to rival zinazshari

in size and beauty

[sour burrow]

If aoes could be auto targeted when in water, and where spherical, then water content wouldn't be as obnoxious.

Were spherical. Stupid tablet.

[tropic trail]

I'm still confused of what you're saying regardless XD

[sour burrow]

I personally liked vashjir.

[tropic trail]

Same here

[sour burrow]

But trying to use AOE type skills is awkward when they are designed for flat ground.

So elements like that make fighting in the water really awkward.

[dense plover]

dont think it will be an underwater zone

[sour burrow]

Having spells change in some way or another for aquatic content would be cool. I never had an issue with the camera for it. It could also apply to 'flying' content.

[dense plover]

very likely to be a raised island

[sour burrow]

Not saying it has to be, just thinking how I would design such content.

[mint holly]

Guild Wars 2 does that.. you have land abilities/weapons, and aquatic abilities/weapons

[grizzled sleet]

If nazjatar is underwater then the raid should be underwater too which is strange

[strange falcon]

underwater raid,Abyssal Maw revengeance

[dense plover]

it will probably be raised from the sea

it would be an epic cinematic

[grizzled sleet]

Jaina will raise Nazjatar from the sea

Katherine : Jaina !? What have you done?
Jaina : Sometimes the hand of fate must be forced

[strange falcon]

Jaina will be the one to morph into an illidan self referencing quote box

[dense plover]

"while you fight for azerite above, beneath the waves we have been planning" "now is our time to take what is ours " magic is cast as an island rises from the sea, the waves pushing the fighting horde and alliance ships "soon you will see what has been waiting" various previews of the inside with different bosses "BENEATH THE TIDES" Patch title sequence

see?

epic

[uncut vault]

man I would not be opposed to that

[dense plover]

😄

[uncut vault]

actual patch as a high seas conflict

[dense plover]

if i could animate i would

considering azshara is 8.2 raid

or 8.1

i guess?

when was nighthold

[uncut vault]

8.1.5

[dense plover]

oh

then its the first patch

i bet we get the patch cinematic at gamescom

considering they start patches on ptr very quickly

[uncut vault]

well keep in kind patches wont be EXACTLY like legions

[tropic trail]

Nathanos is jaime fucking lannister

[grizzled sleet]

but they said that nighthold came too soon, so I think 8.1.5 will be delayed a bit

[tropic trail]

I knew it

[uncut vault]

8.1 wont be like 7.1

[tropic trail]

Nathanos is jaima fucking lannister

[uncut vault]

its going to be further out, so itll probably be a full on content patch

[dense plover]

i mean

yes

im saying the island wouldnt just be the raid

it would also be a huge city

[zealous basalt]

full raid continent

[dense plover]

with like quests and world quests and stuff

a zone

like throne of thunder

but bigger?

throne of thunderr is a bit small

[uncut vault]

I honestly wish azshara was 8.2 instead of this xpacs nighthold

[grizzled sleet]

I think they will go from 77 days per patch to around 90, even if they said 77 wasn't intended

[uncut vault]

cause I would have loved 5.1 style patch in between launch and going into old god stuff

[hollow bridge]

Does anybody know why the beta realms are offline?

[dense plover]

i mean, if azshara is 8.1, im excited to find out what 8.2 and 8.3 are

new build coming

its taking a long time

[uncut vault]

oh Im very excited cause I honestly have no clue what its gonna be

I expected azshara to be the halfway point

[grizzled sleet]

black dragonflight

[dense plover]

eh

if any dragonflight

it would be infinite

we still are missing most of that story

[zealous basalt]

or twilight

[dense plover]

because we went to the future to kill nozdormu

but we havent had nozdormu be born yet

we witnessed the end of the dragonflight

but not the beginning

[ruby star]

New build on beta?

[uncut vault]

not out yet but yeah

[ruby star]

Ay nice

[zealous basalt]

How do you kno?

[uncut vault]

cause they posted about it

ptr build too

[zealous basalt]

oof?

[tropic trail]

In the meantime would someone like to talk about the similarities between nathanos and jaime?

Please?

[zealous basalt]

no

[dense plover]

honestly things i can think of - naga patch, infinite dragonflight/dragon isles/tie in to chromie thing

uhhh

[grizzled sleet]

and old gods

[dense plover]

blood troll hakkar thing maybe

yeah

and old gods

[grizzled sleet]

and the gnome thing as mini raid maybe

like trial of valor

[zealous basalt]

Can u not push the ptr copy

[ruby star]

I am indeed lookimg forward to 8.2 and 8.3, interested to see whats in store

[zealous basalt]

character copy*

[dense plover]

character copy is coming with new build

we could always get other south sea islands

[ruby star]

Charatcer copy is already up on beta

[zealous basalt]

i know

[half iris]

It was already there...

[zealous basalt]

but im asking

[dense plover]

tel abim, plunder isle, kezan

[zealous basalt]

can you not push the poor character copy?

[dense plover]

no

[grizzled sleet]

but there is a datamined zandalar raid right ?

[dense plover]

its disabled right now

[zealous basalt]

"
Also, character copy will be enabled! Please note that under load, the character copy system could fail to create at times due to volume of requests. If things seem slow, take a deep breath, wait a bit and try again later."

[dense plover]

zandalar raid is probably not a zandalar raid

[uncut vault]

there's been a map and a lot of lore hints towards it

[zealous basalt]

I was refering to this

[dense plover]

its probably a pkaceholder

[uncut vault]

best bet is a ToV style raid

[dense plover]

yeah it cant be pushed on its own

something broke

hence new build

[ruby star]

What's tel abim? And really? So thry enabled it then disabled it and are no renabling again?

[dense plover]

NEW BUILD ALERT

[tropic trail]

IF y'all dont watch game of thrones I suggest you do

[dense plover]

ITS FINALLY GOING OUT

RED ALERT

[uncut vault]

small raid that doesnt affect major progression, that allows them to make it different between factions

[dense plover]

NOT A DRILL

[tropic trail]

If you like WoW lore you might like GoT lore

[dense plover]

got isnt wow

[grizzled sleet]

@uncut vault I think the small raid will be the gnome thing

[dense plover]

#no-wow-discussion rys

[tropic trail]

No it's not

[dense plover]

especially cuz

[uncut vault]

As much as I'd love that

[dense plover]

NEW BUILD MUTHAFUCKERS

[uncut vault]

I hope they save the gnome stuff for actual patch stuff

[tropic trail]

Doesn't mean someone who likes WoW lore cant enjoy Game of Thrones lore for being similar in some aspects

[forest mango]

is the beta offline?

[zealous basalt]

y u lie

[hollow bridge]

Where's the new build?

[grizzled sleet]

or maybe they're planning 2 small raids this time

[dense plover]

im not

refresh launcher

[sour burrow]

"We have a problem checking data" lol

[hollow bridge]

Oh it sas update

says

[zealous basalt]

a

der we go

calling it

[runic blaze]

4GB

[sour burrow]

Transferring data* lol

[zealous basalt]

login

[ionic terrace]

[ruby star]

4GB?????

Nice

[zealous basalt]

oly fuck

[hollow bridge]

This is gonna be a spicy build

[sour burrow]

Bleh why is it misbehaving for me?

[ionic terrace]

music

[dense plover]

3.94 gb

[zealous basalt]

Boralus fixed?

[dense plover]

music build likely

[ionic terrace]

yee

[hollow bridge]

Is there like build/patch notes for the beta.. or do we have to figure it out ourselves?

[grizzled sleet]

Everytime I'm launching beta I get this, is it normal ?

[ionic terrace]

[dense plover]

yes

beta is buggy

i think they enabled that on purpose

[strange falcon]

@zealous basalt spanish

[grizzled sleet]

Ok

[dense plover]

so that if you enable a setting that breaks

you can still play

[zealous basalt]

whats wrong with spanish?

[grizzled sleet]

I see

[sour burrow]

There it goes. Dirty Bee-stard.

[dense plover]

login screen

[ionic terrace]

omg

YEET

lordareon

[zealous basalt]

oof?

[hollow bridge]

SHHHHH

[ruby star]

SHOW ME

[strange falcon]

pics or it didnt happen

[hollow bridge]

I havent seen it yet

[zealous basalt]

SHH

[ruby star]

PEACH SHOW PIC

[zealous basalt]

let us see

[ionic terrace]

need to dl more

[dense plover]

https://i.imgur.com/HzhyZ3p.jpg

[grizzled sleet]

😮

[zealous basalt]

wait is that animated?

[ionic terrace]

that is low res one

aka when you don't have all the data

[zealous basalt]

ah

[dense plover]

this is at plaable

so no animations yet

[strange falcon]

we need the full rez one

[dense plover]

someone will have a video in like 30 min

[zealous basalt]

Dafire

[tropic trail]

is the ptr down?

[sour burrow]

Oddly, PTR got the beta models added into it, heh.

[zealous basalt]

something wrong with spanish?

[ionic terrace]

soon tm

[tropic trail]

im having issues with it

[grizzled sleet]

the sky and the winds are the things animated

[dense plover]

ptr build = beta build with bfa flag off

[tropic trail]

this has no bloody animations though

however im running through wine so that might be it

[zealous basalt]

yep

exactly peach

[tropic trail]

THIS HAS NO ANIMATIONS

REALLY?

[zealous basalt]

so when the thing comes

[hollow dock]

Yes Rys it's not fully implemented

it's partial

[ionic terrace]

if it's the same when fully d/l

[grizzled sleet]

@tropic trail Just imagine the sky and the winds animated

[hollow dock]

yea its not like there's much to animate regardless

[zealous basalt]

idk but i never liked the legion screen

[sour burrow]

Seems that way, yeah, peach.

[tropic trail]

Its bland

There's a lot to animate, what you're talking about? LOL

[hollow dock]

I dont like any of the login screens

[sour burrow]

Same content this time.

[zealous basalt]

Like my faves were

Wrath, cata, panda and wod

[tropic trail]

Animate the skies, the smoke, the banners, the winds

[ionic terrace]

download faster

[zealous basalt]

but Legion

[tropic trail]

The birds

Hell there's a lot if you ask me

and you bother saying "not much"

[hollow dock]

Because that isn't much

those are all tiny insignificant things

[uncut vault]

after the mess of green that was legion's

Im so happy toget one with soft colors

[sour burrow]

cinematic???

[hollow dock]

think the only screen I 'liked' was LK. and that was just because its less annoying

[zealous basalt]

you have it already

[dense plover]

it definitely isnt finished

[hollow dock]

and Tobias we already have the cinematic for it

[ionic terrace]

just the bfa one

[hollow dock]

^

[forest mango]

(hope its not just me) the 2 servers are down? can anyone else get on?

[hollow dock]

it's not

the servers are still down

build is being applied

the datamining has begun bois

[forest mango]

ohh ok

[zealous basalt]

Seriously tho

My eyes feel so good looking to this hue of colours

[tropic trail]

You're telling me

You didnt like the deathwing login screen?

[hollow dock]

I didn't like any of them

[ornate pivot]

I thought that was amazing

[tropic trail]

WrA was okay

[hollow dock]

Lich king is the one I tolerated the most

[tropic trail]

I wonder though

Of all the things I've heard in my life, I thought I would never hear THAT coming from someone.

What?

WrA was garbage?

That cinematic was amazing

[grizzled sleet]

Legion had the best login screen, said no one ever

[dense plover]

it definitely didnt

[hollow dock]

Legion had the best login screen

bam

[dense plover]

but it was better than warlords

[tropic trail]

^^

I agree with Vris

It did

[hollow dock]

also the hecks WrA?

[tropic trail]

10/10

Errr

[hollow bridge]

I was really hoping the cata login screen would be like a twilight gate or something, but we got a red annoying dragon reeing at us.

[tropic trail]

Wrong shit

Sorry

[zealous basalt]

i hope you didn't mean

[tropic trail]

Still thinking of servers

[zealous basalt]

Wyrmrest

Accourd

[hollow dock]

WotLK maybe?

[tropic trail]

Oui

Merci, beaucoup

[hollow dock]

it was the one login screen I tolerated the most

[strange falcon]

with bfa they couldnt find anything resembling a doorway,or arch,so they just went with faction war

[zealous basalt]

WotlK was so calm

[ionic terrace]

World of Warcraft: Wyrmrest Accord confirmed

[sour burrow]

yeah, this login screen is actually decent.

[hollow dock]

all the others i just never liked

[wild pewter]

Hopefully the login screen is just temp and unfinished

[zealous basalt]

IT IS

[dense plover]

its the entrance to lordaeron keep dafire

[hollow dock]

it is unfinished Echo

[dense plover]

it also is definitely not done

[zealous basalt]

Also

[dense plover]

legion login screen was changed several times before launch

[zealous basalt]

Oh?

Does someone have pics of it?

[wild pewter]

Cool 😄

[tropic trail]

I only remember legion having one login screen..

[dense plover]

https://i.imgur.com/HzhyZ3p.jpg

hot mess build btw

[zealous basalt]

No

not those

[dense plover]

expect data mining to take forever

[zealous basalt]

Legion's

[dense plover]

oh

you mean the changes to legion's?

[hollow dock]

I just want another WotLK screen. Something happens every now and then, but mostly serene

[dense plover]

i can look

[zealous basalt]

Oui

I saw WoDs

[ionic terrace]

MoP

was the best

ok

[zealous basalt]

Meh

[tropic trail]

Eh

[zealous basalt]

It was a tease

After Garrosh' patch

[tropic trail]

It didn't fit with late MoP though

[zealous basalt]

I want to see the golden pagoda

[ionic terrace]

[hollow dock]

It especially sucked

[uncut vault]

would have been cool if they updated it in 5.4

[hollow dock]

for those that joined post 5.3

[ionic terrace]

no

[hollow dock]

when the vale got destroyed

[sour burrow]

[ADDED] creature/pygmy/pygmyroadie01.skin

[hollow dock]

so they don't get to see how great it was

[dense plover]

here is the first legion login

https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/520414-legion-login-screen-old.jpg

notice how low res it is?

[zealous basalt]

ye

[hollow dock]

Looks straight out of photoshop

[uncut vault]

cause it just straight up was a pic of mardum

[dense plover]

exactly

[sour burrow]

[ADDED] sound/music/battleforazeroth/mus_80_zandalarilament_a.mp3 and some others.

[uncut vault]

with fel lords in front

[dense plover]

we have nothing to worry about

[ionic terrace]

music yeee

[zealous basalt]

...

Those dataminers are fast af

[tropic trail]

You have to be

[zealous basalt]

Not even 10 minutes

[dense plover]

https://bfa.wowhead.com/achievement=13144

here is the achievement for world quests

Wide World Quests

[broken bridge]

oh so it was released now? Time to log out of the game to get it then!

[dense plover]

100 wqs

[uncut vault]

what I like about this one is that it has Lordaeron, but the gates arent the focus of the shot

so we dont have something we're never going to see as the ONLY thing we see every time we login

[zealous basalt]

only 100?

[dense plover]

diplomat achievement is ranmed to Azerothian Diplomat

changes based on your faction

[broken bridge]

I just really like the aesthetic look of it over all. It's that kind of dark, near sepia-tone. Like a story being told.

[ruby star]

https://youtu.be/8MxWjCck9L0 animated version

[gaunt helm]

@dense plover This looks good

https://i.imgur.com/HzhyZ3p.jpg

[zealous basalt]

I mean

we never saw whatever the heck the login screen is

I want to ask something

to those that played cata and the prepatch

Did deathwing appeared in the city in game and broke stuff?

[dense plover]

eh

[tropic trail]

Not really.

He did catch people on fire though!

[dense plover]

new moon talent changed from 30 to 25sec cooldown

[broken bridge]

eh

[dense plover]

fuck tons of number and cooldown tweaking this build bois

[broken bridge]

Deathwing just wrecked havoc over all

and was like "oh hey, Stormwind. Think Imma rest here for a minute"

[lean jacinth]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[tropic trail]

Kinda what the dragon did for LK

[grizzled sleet]

Recklessness Go berserk, increasing all Rage generation by 100% and granting your abilities 20% increased critical strike chance for 1 hour.

They are serious about this ? XD

1 hour

[lean jacinth]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[zealous basalt]

wat

wait

[dense plover]

wildfire bomb damage buff is huge

[zealous basalt]

are those the buffs back?

[grizzled sleet]

no

[zealous basalt]

I mean, they said that buffs would come back

[grizzled sleet]

Recklessness Go berserk, increasing all Rage generation by 100% and granting your abilities 20% increased critical strike chance for 10 sec.1 hour.

They changed this from 10 sec to 1 hour, maybe a bug, it's a 1.5 min cooldown

[dense plover]

crash lightning now buffs stormstrike

[tropic trail]

I'm curious if Drek'thar is dead by now

By BfA*

[zealous basalt]

maybe old af

[tranquil steeple]

Hpala buffs, neat

[dense plover]

stormbringer now increases dmg of stromstrike by 25%

huge shaman dmg buffs

stormstrike dmg was doubled

[tropic trail]

Sounds like Cata

Watch elemental get nerfed into the ground

[zealous basalt]

don think these are bugs

Ehh

[hollow dock]

Looks like this is the number tuning boys, girls and that technicolored rainbow in between

or at least the start of it

[dense plover]

https://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2018/june/loadingscreen_underrot_wide.jpg

[zealous basalt]

Inb4 we oneshot the world

[dense plover]

fancy underrot loadscreen

[zealous basalt]

Azeroth be lie

like*

[uncut vault]

wildfire bomb definitely needed it

was waaay too back loaded on damage

[zealous basalt]

"The fuck I have in my shoulders*

[hollow dock]

Looks like the focus is on healers and problematic DPS talents

and a massive wacking to feral

hope they're OK after that reduction

[zealous basalt]

Chi Burst generates 1 Chi per enemy target damaged, up to a maximum of 2.

What the fuck did you do blizzard

[hollow bridge]

Where are you finding all this info?

[zealous basalt]

srsly wat the fuck

[hollow dock]

http://www.wowhead.com/news=285032/battle-for-azeroth-26871-class-changes-abilities-talents-azerite?webhook/battle-for-azeroth-26871-class-changes-abilities-talents-azerite

#latest-news-old will always have the new stuff Verick

[ionic terrace]

?

[zealous basalt]

you have to go and

[hollow dock]

Oh those got made legacy

OH

[zealous basalt]

Kek

[hollow dock]

I know why

teldrassil aint a thing

[ionic terrace]

It is tho

[dense plover]

azerite traits renamed to azerite powers

[zealous basalt]

And Saurfang either

[hollow dock]

and Saurfang is not in Orgrimmar.

It's not Pad

[ionic terrace]

just go back in time

[uncut vault]

teldrassil isnt a thing, and sylvanas is now in org

[hollow dock]

Pre-patch burns it off

[ionic terrace]

it's still there

[hollow dock]

as Port said

That's why the achieves are removed

[ionic terrace]

Guys

[zealous basalt]

Wait

[hollow dock]

Yes Pad we know

[zealous basalt]

Sylvy is in Org now?

[hollow dock]

BUT

currently

the current state of the world

[ionic terrace]

True

[uncut vault]

at 110, unlike with teldrassil, there is no way to go back from having Sylvanas in orgrimmar

[hollow dock]

is what they base the PVP achieves off

[uncut vault]

so they removed the equivalent achieve with saurfang for balance

[hollow dock]

yea

[dense plover]

"NEW AZERITE_POWER_NOT_FOR_YOUR_SPEC
This power isn't for your specialization."

[zealous basalt]

So

kden

[dense plover]

you can no longer take non-spec powers

[uncut vault]

hows that gonna work when you change specs lol

[ionic terrace]

Ok

[hollow dock]

Buff to Warlocks

the big DPS demons are now costing mana instead of Soul shards

[zealous basalt]

oof

[hollow dock]

that's good

that frees more shards to use for big spenders

rather than CDs

[dense plover]

https://youtu.be/8MxWjCck9L0

animated

[hollow dock]

drorith beat ya to it :p

[dense plover]

oops

[hollow dock]

they didn't forget D.E.H.T.A. exists!

[hollow bridge]

Wait...... Recklessness Go berserk, increasing all Rage generation by 100% and granting your abilities 20% increased critical strike chance for 10 sec.1 hour.

[hollow dock]

Yes

Fury is going to be insane

[tropic trail]

Has D.E.H.T.A even been seen since WrA?

Errr

[hollow dock]

It hasn't

[tropic trail]

WotLK

[hollow dock]

outside of the murloc man in Highmountain

there's been no reference to em

[tropic trail]

The king*

[hollow bridge]

I just want fury to have specific enhancements for one hands and two hands again

[hollow dock]

Until now =D

they won't verick

having to balance around both playstyles is way more work than its worth

[tropic trail]

I want to see some 2h frost dks again

My breddas

Deathlord Lilo has arrived with a zweihander!

[uncut vault]

the hope is that theyll use the new xmog rules for all weps, instead of just artifacts

[hollow dock]

Doesn't it only cover the uh

awkward DW artifacts

[dense plover]

tiragarde jukebox

https://bnet.marlam.in/temp/preview_5b315eedac178128de871232b7a390b6.mp3

[hollow dock]

like the mage and priest weapon?

[zealous basalt]

I am pissed

[dense plover]

tons of new music

😄

[hollow dock]

every other artifact is in classes that can mog to it normally

[zealous basalt]

Why did they have to put a limit on Chi Burst

[hollow dock]

its to stronk

[dense plover]

^

[hollow dock]

that's why it gets nerfed

[dense plover]

it was broken

[tropic trail]

I imagine the skull would be awkward to mog

[uncut vault]

Hpally is getting it too

[dense plover]

also the 1 hour thing has to be a bug

[uncut vault]

can mog a 2 hander despite using a 1h and shield

[zealous basalt]

Probably they will nerf it to 5% crit

[hollow dock]

Well for hpally I can understand cuz it's something you can't mog normally

[dense plover]

im serious about the music guys

[hollow dock]

but

[dense plover]

https://bnet.marlam.in/temp/preview_5b315eedac178128de871232b7a390b6.mp3

[hollow dock]

like

[dense plover]

this is a song

its in game

[hollow dock]

a hunter mogs their bows and guns normally

[dense plover]

😄

[hollow dock]

and a Survival mogs their weapon normally

[zealous basalt]

I want

True shotgun sounds

[tropic trail]

^

[hollow dock]

There's an addon for it

[tropic trail]

I want a healing DH spec

[hollow dock]

I want one too.

but I understand that fel doesn't really heal

[uncut vault]

its just the general rule of artifact appearances override the equipped weapon, but dont always have to

[hollow dock]

because yes the developers DID try a fel healing spec. It didn't work

[tropic trail]

If the shadow can, then fel can.

[dense plover]

alliance warfront general walk music

https://bnet.marlam.in/temp/preview_cd967b7d6de43148a2300ac400d71e72.mp3

[uncut vault]

should be like that for things like frost DK, surv hunter, and fury warrior too, independent of artifacts

[hollow dock]

Shadow heals because it's a duality of Light, Crystal

but

Frost DKs always DW

[tropic trail]

I also feel like Blood shield have the ability to equip shields too

[hollow dock]

so that makes no sense for that rule to be enforceD?

Surv hunter ALWAYS has its two hander

[dense plover]

shit tons of music

so much

[ruby star]

Damn, Dataminimg really gets me hypef fot bFA

[dense plover]

😄

[hollow dock]

Fury always has two 2h

[uncut vault]

as of legion, yeah

[hollow dock]

As of forever

[tropic trail]

Even before that

[hollow dock]

unless they change the spec

[tropic trail]

They usually had 2 2h

[hollow dock]

Lilo they can't use them now

[zealous basalt]

wait

waitwaitwaitwait

[dense plover]

guys

[uncut vault]

frost DK before Legion was able to use 2H, was the better spec up till MoP

[zealous basalt]

Stop Vris

[hollow dock]

Half of frosts abilities require DW

[dense plover]

why talk about specs

MUSIC

[uncut vault]

fury warrior with dw 1h was meta in MoP

[dense plover]

and world is up

servers are up guys

[zealous basalt]

PEACH

PEACH

[hollow dock]

Again Port

[dense plover]

yes

[hollow dock]

changed in legion

[tropic trail]

I know, but I went off to talk about Warrs, dear :p

[uncut vault]

yeah thats

[hollow dock]

that's not getting unchanged

[uncut vault]

exactly the point

[zealous basalt]

If Tyrande isn't accounted for the For The Horde

Does that mean that she isn't a racial leader anymore?

[uncut vault]

people want the ability to MOG over the requirements

[dense plover]

392 new mp3s guys

no

[hollow dock]

no Makore

[dense plover]

she is

[hollow dock]

we explained why

[zealous basalt]

snaps fingers

[dense plover]

just no teldrassil

[hollow dock]

Teldrassil isn't there

you can't go and kill her now

[tropic trail]

Teldrassil is missing

[dense plover]

guys

music is in

[hollow dock]

Saurfang is the same

[zealous basalt]

And now where do horde go to kill her?

[tropic trail]

I'm sure you can

[dense plover]

all 392 mp3s

[hollow dock]

They dont have to

shes like Vol'jin

[ruby star]

I mean you can kill her in the embassy right?

[hollow dock]

A leader but not required for the PVP achieve

[ionic terrace]

servers up

[pliant chasm]

awww yeah

[hollow dock]

nice peach we don't seem to care for music as much as you :p

[tropic trail]

XD

[zealous basalt]

...I am confused now for the thing, not about Tyrande

[dense plover]

holyy shit

[tropic trail]

Sadly

[dense plover]

golden city is the main theme for dazar alor

honor level merging is in also

[hollow dock]

the golden city is the main theme for the golden city?

[uncut vault]

I understand that mechanically, frost dk, fury warrior, surv hunter etc. are locked in that, because the pace of AAs matter, but the xmog of them shouldnt be locked

[tropic trail]

The meta

[hollow dock]

Until Frost DKs are

ya know

NOT

built around DW

I dont think it matters

[tropic trail]

I feel like Frost DKs would have the ability to dual wield 2h tbh

[hollow dock]

they do Lilo

[dense plover]

emmisaries give azerite armor now

[hollow dock]

but half their abilties don't work

abilities*

[zealous basalt]

Ooof

I need to max my character for BfA

[tropic trail]

Alright, I'm missing something

[zealous basalt]

like

In the beta

[tropic trail]

WTF ARE WE TALKING ABOOT?

[hollow dock]

They need DW to play as a full class. that is how blizz designed them in legion

[hollow bridge]

Uhhh recklessness stays for 1 hour like it says

[zealous basalt]

so its not a bug?

[sour burrow]

Lol I like that 2nd music you linked. Albumy thing.

[hollow bridge]

Nah

[zealous basalt]

REST IN PASTA META

[tropic trail]

And no, Frost DKs cannot dual wield 2h

[hollow dock]

Port wants all the artifacts to be 'free' of their restrictions for the other classes that have the possibility of not being locked into 1 weapon

No Lilo

that's not what I said

[neat idol]

Why is beta still down? Im crying

[tropic trail]

That's what I said though

[dense plover]

zandalar and kul tiras are smaller on the world map

[hollow dock]

To which it doesn't matter if theyre restricted or not

[hollow bridge]

New music AHHHGGHGHHG

[tropic trail]

A'ight

[hollow dock]

you're not switching off of DW because you can't actually function as a class

[dense plover]

wow, i can paste print screen directly into discord

cool

[hollow dock]

without it

[uncut vault]

Vris

[tropic trail]

This shit is confusing the fuck out of me

[uncut vault]

I am not talking mechanically

[hollow dock]

Port

[uncut vault]

mechanically, they would still wield two 1 handers

[hollow dock]

it doesn't matter if its restricted

[uncut vault]

I am talking VISUALLY

[hollow dock]

or not

You CAN'T AND WONT use a 2h

on frost

to mog it

to DW

[tropic trail]

I wasn't saying they would..?

[stoic vortex]

DW?

[hollow dock]

Im talking to Port Lilo

[zealous basalt]

Dual wield

[hollow dock]

Dual Wield

[tropic trail]

I'm too confused rn

[grizzled sleet]

Dual shield

[zealous basalt]

...Imagine mogging dw into 2h dw

[hollow dock]

I tried to explain it to you Lilo

[tropic trail]

Apparently me and you were talking about something else

[dense plover]

theres a confirmation box for picking azerite traits now

[tropic trail]

I was talking about what would technically be possible by lore