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tropic trail
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sindragosa's fury was previously the aa

neat idol
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whats aa?

tropic trail
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but now its golden

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artifact ability

neat idol
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oh

zealous basalt
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...what is frost dk's aa?

hollow dock
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It wasnt Rys.

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Its always been an active since launch [:

tropic trail
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the video I watched was during beta

hollow dock
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Thatd explain it

neat idol
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frost dk's aa it's that you have two swords floating around you(?

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don't know the english name :c

tropic trail
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@ me with beta comes back up

neat idol
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same

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pls

tropic trail
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Zandalari Trolls still have NE animations?

dense plover
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frost dks active ability is sindragosa's fury

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you summon a dragon to breath frost in a line

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it is a talent called frostwyrms fury in bfa

gaunt helm
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Is Beta Back up?

dense plover
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no?

gaunt helm
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When does it come back

dense plover
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once a new build goes out probably

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could be 4 or more hours

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yes zandalari still share some animations with night elves

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that wont ever go away

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they have a mix of night elf, troll, and unique animations

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so, update on beta

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it went offline about 6 hourrs ago

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this probably isnt a build deploy

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or if it is, something went wrong prior to that

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we may not see beta come back up at a reasonable hour or even at all today depending on what went wrong

mint holly
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Do they update at all on the forums about an eta?

dense plover
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sometimes?

zealous basalt
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hax

dense plover
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if it gets to be about 1pm PST and we havent gotten an update, theyll post of the forums

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its still decently early on the west cost

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if there is nothing in 2 hours, we will probably have an update from the blues

mint holly
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Seems like a good time to get on live and do the TW weekly.. but ugh. after playing beta BFA I don't want to go back to Legion

dense plover
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could always level allied races

tropic trail
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For some reason, Legion zones are awfull, and i love green :)) but the Questline, the plots and everything in BFA Seems better way better and more connected to the world, Spaceships and Universe Demons, oh wel.

mint holly
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I leveled a void elf. Was considering a HMT for a horde druid because I took mine to alliance.. but, wasn't crazy about Tauren in general

dense plover
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i love legion zones, but the problem with them is they are TOO dense

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bfa fixes that

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zones have tons of stuff, but are also spread out

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and very pretty

mint holly
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The questing in zones and on to the next is indeed very smooth in BFA

tropic trail
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Yeah, like too packed, and transitions, between zones, were awfull

dense plover
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some of the transitions were good

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valsharah to hm

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and valsharah to suramar

mint holly
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Suramar's beauty is hard to second though

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well most of it

dense plover
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im just excited for no more demons

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i mean, we each get a huge city to explore now

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and theyre awesome

mint holly
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I loved it, although alot of the zones, depending on the time of day, can be very beautiful

dense plover
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there were no bad zones this expac

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no spires of arak

tropic trail
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Lore wise, the Legion zones could've been better, so many things in the broken isles, NE, Naga, Aszhara, and all that.

dense plover
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but there were zones that felt too crowded like azsuna

mint holly
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I found the questing zones beautiful in BFA but the main cities are hard to navigate at first, they are so huge

tropic trail
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But it felt so rushed

dense plover
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i mean, main city wise for bfa - most of the stuff you need is right near the innkeeper

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and they have guards with directions now

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i like that the horde one is more spread out, considering we usually get cramped capitals

zealous basalt
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I have a question tho

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What's up with all the unused stuff below the water in the north of highmountain?

mint holly
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Yeah, it's just learning where they are, remembering it, and being able to locate the general area on the map.. and then how to navigate the paths/stairs/ramps to get there depending on whether you're horde or alliance side

dense plover
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youll figure it out

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sometimes they add stuff underwater just because

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when that team reaches expac launch, they often have little or nothing to do, so tthey go around and add little details that arent used for anything

zealous basalt
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what about the elite murloc island?

dense plover
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makes the world feel more like a world

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murloc island has a unique pet

mint holly
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I was happy to see the Scrap-o-matic as a place of interest from guard directions, that helped tremendously

dense plover
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its so useful too

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you can get crafting stuff from quest gear

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and you can get some of the ingridients back from stuff you craft

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and you might even get other profession stuff you can sell

mint holly
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Yeah I've been telling everyone I can about it because I learned kind of late about it, vendored so many greens I could have scrapped

dense plover
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yeah using it with greens and selling blues and purples for gold is the best use of it

zealous basalt
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would love to

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get final verdict back

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or the animation of it with the sound

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that thing was really satisfactory

sour burrow
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You mean 'using it with all BoP stuff if not an enchanter' is the best use of it, right? Because at launch, leveling greens will sell for ridiculous prices. :P

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Or wait, are you trying to trick people thereby further inflating the value of greens? :O

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(:P)

mint holly
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No, some of the items you get from scrapping are needed to level crafting professions and I have yet to find another reliable source for them.. I honestly believe those items will sell even higher than greens

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It's possible they will increase the drop rate or the source of those crafting items from other things like milling and prospecting but so far I've had no luck that way, only with the scrapping, and even then it's not always a sure thing for the blue items

tropic trail
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Is the Heart of Azeroth BFA specific content or is it here to stay for future expansions to come?

dense plover
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bfa only

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systems never carry over

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yes bop

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not stuff that isnt bop

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stuff that you pick up, cant auction, or selling is meh

mint holly
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well sb greens that you've worn and got an upgrade for, def scrap

dense plover
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also, its the only source of expulsom

mint holly
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Yeah, that one. Was going crazy trying to figure out where that came from and that was how I learned about the scrap

neat idol
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Does anyonw know how to configure G-keys on a Corsair keyboard?

mint holly
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google, there's surely a how to video

neat idol
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Trying but nothing D:

zealous basalt
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how 2 basic

mint holly
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really? because I highlighted the last part of your sentence and got 3 videos right away ๐Ÿ˜„

sour burrow
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Ugh, build when? :/

hollow dock
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when it come

uncut vault
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Dunno if it was shown here, but fire mage has multistrike back for a few azerite traits

tropic trail
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So why, I ask, it just doesn't make much sense. that a man of my stature should have to wear a dress.

frozen dust
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How much is a race change? Debating if making my orc shaman a brown orc shaman would be worth my while

terse patrol
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wow racist

tropic trail
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Probably should stay normal orc

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You dont get the armor

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and apparently the mag'har orc racials are worst than normal orc racials

frozen dust
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He wouldn't use the armor anyway, his mog is already square

terse patrol
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i wish normal orcs could use the maghar racial armor

tropic trail
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Mag'har orcs straight outta the movie

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OG Horde

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and for alliance Kul Tiran humans?

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I guess they kind of count

frozen dust
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He's using the... I think season 1 PvP Legion set and the elemental shaman BoP appearance

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Fire everywhere

hollow dock
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you dont have to wear a dress, Rys.

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you canmog it off

tropic trail
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It's a song

mint arch
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any arguments going on?

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=D

frozen dust
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Not yet

tropic trail
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She was going to argue about the dress part

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sure of it

frozen dust
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I could try to get one going but no promises

mint arch
hollow dock
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I wasn't? o=

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I didn't know it was apart of a song

mint arch
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argument about whether vris was gonna go off about the dress!

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lets go~

tropic trail
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Most of the time thats how arguments start around here

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With a channel this dry, I'd imagine it's easy to start up a fire.

frozen dust
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Anduin

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More like

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Bland-uin

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Meh that's all I got

sharp bluff
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no no, he is very bland, your right

tropic trail
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That's good but they know you're memeing.

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You have to make it sound serious.

hollow dock
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^

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Write it out like Rys normally does and bam

tropic trail
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"Anduin is a bland character."

hollow dock
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we arguin bois

tropic trail
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Instant argument.

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Guaranteed.

hollow dock
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and no arguments have been started

mint arch
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anduin is still just a kid, what do u expect from him?

hollow dock
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WHAT!?

mint arch
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IM STARTING IT, LETS GO

hollow dock
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Are you telling me that I have to expect Anduin to act his ag?

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age*

meager warren
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Yes

frozen dust
hollow dock
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well alright

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That's fair

sharp bluff
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I mean if you want me to Vris, I can start the battle XD

hollow dock
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I know you're not being serious though

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so it wouldn' really work

tropic trail
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Not my fault you and peach are just ticking bombs.

sharp bluff
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Something something, Nelf leaders can't guard a tree, something something, gnomes are only smart ones in the alliance

tropic trail
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Even the slightest controversial topic lights y'all off.

hollow dock
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yea you're right

meager warren
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"Eith a channel this dry i'd imagine its easy to start up a fire" omg

mint arch
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something something horde has no smart ones

hollow dock
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I don't like that blizz has nerfed off my nelves.

tropic trail
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Dark Iron Dwarves are unoriginal.

sharp bluff
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Old age, those Nelf leaders are losing their minds

meager warren
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I don't like that blizz added nelves.
Boom get rekt

mint arch
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moira sucks

tropic trail
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Night Elves dont have much lore.

hollow dock
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Passionate people are like that Rys

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yea you all give fair points.

tropic trail
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๐Ÿ˜‰

hollow dock
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not true but I can't change your mind

sharp bluff
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So we know where the Nelfs moved to yet? or they hanging out in Stormwind?

meager warren
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What if it is true and you just don't know it

tropic trail
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Passionate about everything I'd assume?

hollow dock
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just in stormwind

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Passionate about this game yes

meager warren
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Wayyy too passionate

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Chill

tropic trail
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Lit the fuse my dude

frozen dust
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I'd be cool with VS being the new nelf hangout

sharp bluff
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thats dull, I can understand the forsaken hanging out in Org, but the Nelfs in a stone city just seems wrong

frozen dust
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It's already theirs anyway

meager warren
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Well why not

hollow dock
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can't help it. Been playing this game for 14 years.

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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can't be helped Zep

uncut vault
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Donโ€™t exactly have a choice atm

tropic trail
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I mean, the Nelfs had a section in the stone city originally

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"Why don't night elves join the horde, the have no reason to be alliance" ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Called "The Park:

meager warren
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What's VS

frozen dust
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Several people are typing

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We did it boys

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Val'sharah

hollow dock
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I know you're not being serious Rys

mint arch
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=D

meager warren
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O

uncut vault
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They could put them elsewhere later, but I like that theyโ€™re all in SW right out the gate

tropic trail
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Hey, let's join forces with a race we've been at war with for the past x amount of years

sharp bluff
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Can't be helped because they won't create a new city for them ๐Ÿ˜ข I know, same with Forsaken

meager warren
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Well they could live in the World Tree right next to that stone city

sharp bluff
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though i would dig the forsaken settling in Theramore

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just for laughs

tropic trail
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They might but it's unlikely because they're keeping the old zones and Zidormi

frozen dust
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Forsaken was my first race, I'm more torn up about losing Brill than anything else tbh

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Omg

meager warren
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Or Ashenvale khadgarface

frozen dust
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They go there and the nelves go to Gilneas

tropic trail
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Gilneas is a stone city too..

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"No realms Available" we are close boyzzz

hollow dock
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Give Silverpine forest to the nelves.

sharp bluff
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Nelves probably will get gilneas with the worgen, they are adding a few things to it afterall

tropic trail
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^

frozen dust
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Oh neat

hollow dock
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eh things are boring here. :c

frozen dust
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I actually didn't know that

tropic trail
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Jaina is a Dreadlord

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Just finished b4 the storm, I liked all the alliance parts and the goblin/gnome stuff. But I hate the fact that Sylvanas is a villian now.

frozen dust
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MORALLY

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GREY

mint arch
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no no

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we moved past that

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Jaina is actually

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J'aina

tropic trail
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They've kinda been building her up as a villain the entire expansion though

mint arch
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an old god

tropic trail
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Praise be J'aina

hollow dock
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again I know you're not being serious

tropic trail
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She's way way worse than Garrosh at least.

hollow dock
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so there's nothing to argue

sharp bluff
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Well they can only write the Boy-king as white, so everything else seems black compared to him
I'm not wrong with this statement

hollow dock
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She's not a villain

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at all Lilo

tropic trail
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They've been building up to it

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Idk Vris

hollow dock
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oh you mean Sylvanas

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sorry

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my bad

frozen dust
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"I sense Sylvanas is beyond redemption with my human sense," said Anduin in a nobly morally grey way

tropic trail
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???

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Visible confusion

mint arch
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sylvanas ๐Ÿคข

hollow dock
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I read talk about Jaina and didn't see the mention of Sylvanas prior

tropic trail
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She is awful.

hollow dock
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my apologies

tropic trail
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I'M LOST

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Lilo is not the hero we want, but the hero we deserve. When no one else could start an argument

hollow dock
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I thought you were talking about Jaina. My bad.

tropic trail
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I know that

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The only one who still likes Sylvanas is LSWindrunner.

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XD

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But wtf are we talking about overall

hollow dock
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I don't know

tropic trail
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Seems like there's six different conversations going on

hollow dock
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they're trying to get me to argue with them

tropic trail
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One about Anduin

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Everything

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Another about J'aina

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Anduin is Ragnaros

dense plover
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realms are down

tropic trail
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I'm spread out so thin you can barely taste my butter

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Just shared my thoughts on the new book.

dense plover
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build incoming

tropic trail
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Like crike

frozen dust
hollow dock
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yea. Theyre setting her up to be Garrosh 2.0

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without being Garrosh

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Kinda like it

tropic trail
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Garrosh was interesting

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I hope they finally make moira's fucking kid older now

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I don't even mind Sylvanas being portrayed as shady and evil. But the fact that all horde members are fine with it hurts me as a horde player.

hollow dock
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He was. Until Pandaria. IMO

tropic trail
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True.

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little shit has been a baby forever

hollow dock
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I mean.

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Tiny.

tropic trail
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Leaders and members.

hollow dock
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Your whole motto of the horde

tropic trail
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But let's be honest, the fight between him and Taran Zhu was badass

hollow dock
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is you live, breath and die for the warchief

tropic trail
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I hate that.

hollow dock
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that's been it since Thrall revived the horde

tropic trail
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:((((

sharp bluff
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@tropic trail they arn't but they have an oath, Baine isn't happy, the traitor Weak-fang isn't happy

zealous basalt
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How the heck do you give the flavor of an hardboiled egg to a fried egg

meager warren
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I think the biggest reason people like her is cause "Boobs" or some shit

tropic trail
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Ill live and die for dreadlord jaina

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Saurfang is awesome.

meager warren
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Ew dreadlords

mint arch
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the only reason ppl like sylvanas is boobs

frozen dust
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I was in it for the midriff

hollow dock
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In which, I will have to note something Tiny

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Unlike Garrosh

tropic trail
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@meager warren true loo

frozen dust
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And then she put on a shirt and I lost interest

tropic trail
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Personally, I don't see why we don't make someone like Eitrigg, Saurfang, or even Rexxar warchief.

sharp bluff
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Traitor-fang WAS, past tense, awesome

tropic trail
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Lol

hollow dock
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Sylvanas IS actively HIDING everything from the other leaders

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the Leaders cannot get angry over things they dont know

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they aren't this chat

terse patrol
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^

tropic trail
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Hmmm

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Garrosh pretty much presented his orcish schlong on the table and said, "Come at me."

meager warren
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Except Gallywix but he's an even bigger shit than her

hollow dock
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Yea

sharp bluff
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she tells baine something though Vris, but we don't know what

tropic trail
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That's actually quite eye opening.

terse patrol
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nah

frozen dust
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Baine sitting at a computer
"Wait a second"

terse patrol
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gallywix is just a different type of shit

hollow dock
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That's why I said she's being set up to Garrosh 2.0

tropic trail
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She does threaten baime though.

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Im guessing they're setting up sylvanas for something big. Seeing as Vol'jin was warchief for only one expansion

hollow dock
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without actually being Garrosh

tropic trail
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In the new book.

terse patrol
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Gallywix in a way is honest. His motivations are out there for all to see.

tropic trail
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You guys read it?

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Debatable.

meager warren
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Baine breaking the fourth wall while confronting Sylv

terse patrol
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Sylvanas is much more conniving.

hollow dock
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"I heard from the Wowhead discord that you're hiding shit Sylvanas"

frozen dust
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So Calia is like guaranteed to be the next undead leader right

tropic trail
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Kind of sax.

terse patrol
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not guaranteed

uncut vault
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Nothing can live in Theramore, undead arenโ€™t immune to the arcane mess

meager warren
tropic trail
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My question is

hollow dock
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Zep

meager warren
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No

tropic trail
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I am

hollow dock
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reword that

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You might seriously

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want to reword that

meager warren
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I hate flat villains

tropic trail
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Is it possible that some demons pledge themselves to the void?

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The book makes Sylvanas look different from every forsaken ever.

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As a Horde Main, I'm happy with a evil warchief

sharp bluff
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eh halright

terse patrol
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I still think that things will be splitting between Light and Shadow, and the Light following Forsaken will side with Calia.

frozen dust
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Haw

sharp bluff
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here is a better question, is anyone happy Blizz is making another horde leader morally black? not grey, just straight up morally black? (talking about the book)

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Better?

hollow dock
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Ok that's better

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just that last one was

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iffy

sharp bluff
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๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ

meager warren
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"mORraLy GrEY"

tropic trail
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^^

terse patrol
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That one Forsaken from the Argent Crusade will likely become more important again

tropic trail
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@sharp bluff Gallywix and Sylvanas, thats kinda it.

frozen dust
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It was something else

hollow dock
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Im pretty happy with it

tropic trail
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As a Horde Main, yes I am happy with that. I am also happy with a grey warchief

hollow dock
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Horde's always been the villain to the alliance.

tropic trail
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It adds character

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It adds story

sharp bluff
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You just want to kill another Horde leader Vris ๐Ÿ˜†

tropic trail
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Ooo no it doesnt

hollow dock
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Yes I do

tropic trail
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Gtg now

terse patrol
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Wowpedia

Leonid Barthalomew the Revered is an undead member of the Argent Crusade revered by his colleagues for the sacrifices he has made. He investigated the return of the powerful lich, Ras Frostwhisper, in the Eastern Plaguelands. Barthalomew looks at his undeath as a malady, an i...

tropic trail
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Game of Thrones most people would describe as "grey" but Cersei exist.

hollow dock
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Down with the horde

tropic trail
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In a way, the conflict between the Horde and Alliance is a lot like the conflict between the void and light

meager warren
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Rys, sometimes i think that you're more for the alliance than horde

tropic trail
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Why's that?

meager warren
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Because you're fine with the horde destroying itself

tropic trail
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At least it's more intense than alliance.

frozen dust
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I had a vision of a world where Greymane was being a shitty advisor and using his place as surrogate father to push Bland-uin to war while Vol'jin was still around to go "Wait what the fuck" but I don't know where they could go from there, so I'm ultimately fine with this

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Tbh I'm excited for BFA either way

tropic trail
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Ack

terse patrol
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idk why people dont like Anduin

frozen dust
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Nathanos can flap his jaw all he wants, I've got a cool dinosaur to go buy

meager warren
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Hey, Anduin isn't bland. He's just socially inept

frozen dust
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I don't dislike him

tropic trail
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I'm more excited for the fact that we get to see Tel'Abim finally

frozen dust
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I'm just pushing that now

tropic trail
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I'm fine with the Horde destroying itself, it adds drama and story and what-not. Compared to the Alliance which is a little to bland for my tastes.

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Also I know Blizz wont truly let the Horde die.

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Ah shit

terse patrol
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I want to see them dismantle both factions and go Light vs Void, but thats just me.

tropic trail
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^^^

meager warren
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I would say that the Alliwnce knows more about what honor is than horde but this is wow

tropic trail
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BURNING LEGION FACTION WHEN

sharp bluff
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seriously though, they have tried, emphasis on TRIED because they really havn't done a good job, to always write both sides as morally grey, even before Slyvanis wasn't totally bat(crap) crazy, let alone the fact it is a repeat of Blizz writing yet another horde leader as crazy (see me am Orc, Orc master race Garrosh), it is like saying lets make Malf go bloodthirsty, then 2 expansions later have the Spacegoat leader go crazy

meager warren
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NEUTRAL FACTION WHEN

tropic trail
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They both have different perspectives on Honor

meager warren
sharp bluff
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it just seems

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so

frozen dust
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I heard someone say something along the lines of the Horde isn't the same Horde we started with and that's a problem while the Alliance is the same Alliance we started with and that's a problem too, which is a weird way of saying it, but I think I get what they were getting at

sharp bluff
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so very much so

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lazy

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It really isn't though

meager warren
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^

tropic trail
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1 7 F A C T I O N S

sharp bluff
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The allaince atm is ruled by the boy king

tropic trail
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The only major thing that's happened for the Alliance is Wrynn dying

sharp bluff
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and his goats

meager warren
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2 0 0 0 fACTIONS

tropic trail
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Meanwhile you got the horde..

sharp bluff
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and his mutt genn

terse patrol
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its almost like basing an entire faction around outcasts and morally "grey" factions is a recipe for disaster. GuriThinking

tropic trail
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by goats you mean draenei?

frozen dust
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I played bass for Boy-King and His Goats

sharp bluff
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rock on?

tropic trail
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I still want the Banana People on Tel'Abim

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B A R D C L A S S W H E N ???

sharp bluff
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featuring the Mutt Genn?

meager warren
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The Alliance started going to shit when Varians dad died

tropic trail
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kek

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I like how genn is fine with varian sacrificing himself then when he actually dies he cries in despair

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I want to see Gilneas become a capital though tbh

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Too much there for it to just sit there

terse patrol
#

you can still feel bad about someone dying

meager warren
#

Makes you think, did Genn do that to manipulate Varian somehow

frozen dust
#

He needed to make it look good for everyone watching

terse patrol
#

even if its a good reason

#

@meager warren oh god ffs no

tropic trail
terse patrol
#

Don't be that guy.

meager warren
terse patrol
#

Next you're going to say that Sylvanas is Lawful Good.

frozen dust
#

"Here Anduin I have some shirts that are your size"
"No these didn't belong to Liam what are you talking about"

tropic trail
#

She's more along the lines of Chaotic Neutral tbh

terse patrol
#

Lawful Evil*

meager warren
#

SYLVANAS IS LAWFUL GOOD, LADS

tropic trail
#

SYLVANAS IS GAY FOR JAINA

mint arch
#

neutral GWqlabsFeelsLULMan

sour burrow
#

Why is the channel being all spammy?

tropic trail
#

Because idiotas.

meager warren
#

Why are you not

sour burrow
#

Because I am an adult. ^_^;

tropic trail
#

Im always spammy whatchu talkin about

meager warren
#

So are we ;)

tropic trail
#

O.o

#

Panic button

#

Dont worry it's nothing as bad as offtopic was that one day

meager warren
#

Manic button

sour burrow
#

So with the real list down, we should be getting the build soon. Woo. Wonder what will be added this time...

tropic trail
#

Kul Tiran Moonkin

sour burrow
#

I will have to bug report again the things that haven't made it in. And it moonkin don't seem to be a launch requirement. I am more concerned about Captain Eudora.

tropic trail
#

I'm curious about the Kul'tiran fish form

sour burrow
#

Then again neither were zandalari moonkin and aquatic, lol

terse patrol
#

hope we get kul tiran boomkins this build

tropic trail
#

Kul Tiran forms are just normal forms as plants

#

while zandalari forms have effort put into them

#

Debatable

#

But go on

#

Thats it

sour burrow
#

The animations are the same for the zandalari forms.

terse patrol
#

if they dont get kul tiran boomkin one of those humanoid wicker men forms I'ma be sa

#

sad

sour burrow
#

So I dunno if they are really that much more work.

frozen dust
#

KT moonkin are the pigmen

tropic trail
#

I mean, all the Zandalari forms are is the old skeletons from the Sun Birds and etc.

meager warren
#

It's still cooot

tropic trail
#

Zandalari Travel form doesnt have same animations

#

does it?

meager warren
tropic trail
#

I don't remember what it looks like

uncut vault
#

Itโ€™s just a raptor

tropic trail
#

So I can't tell

#

Ah

uncut vault
#

And a pterordax

tropic trail
#

Different from the deers

#

at least

hollow dock
#

They have the lizard-bear and lizard-cat Port

sharp bluff
#

summed up the things that made no sense lately in a single post, enjoy

#

still, to see the writing right now, it feels like they just went "ctrl+c" to the SoO plot, replaced Garrosh with Sylvannis,

-they gave Genn a redemption arc, with a bad excuse for a reason mind you (seriously, the guy has never seen a nice forsaken? all it took was a nice forsaken? sounds like something DC would write)
-The part I agree on with Vris, they made Nelf's leaders dumber then a tree they should have been able to defend their land with no problem
-Janna is suddenly not crazy again? only in time for a faction war, if it wasn't for a comic we (the players) seriously would have no idea shje was fighting the legion
-Spacegoats do no evil (I am thinking the laser is run by minerals on argus, therefore they have no ammo,idk they never say why)

now on the horde side,
-Trolls unknown till we get more info on Voljinn
-Tauren nothing, even though the Highmountain recruitment quest hinted at stuff
-Orcs, who knows, thrall was written out again
-Sylvannis is ebil, despite her being the last OG horde leader

sour burrow
#

Not sure on that one but it isn't like it is brand new.

hollow dock
#

and their moonkin form is the Arakkoa like thing

sharp bluff
#

Do we have a Zandalari aquatic form yet?

tropic trail
#

I guess you can say the Kul'tiran forms are sticky.

hollow dock
#

Not as far as i know

tropic trail
#

Crickets

hollow dock
#

throws a boot to Lilo

uncut vault
#

Ya but neither have unique anims, they didnโ€™t get anything more than the Kul Tirans did

hollow dock
#

GET OFF THE STAGE

tropic trail
#

It'll prolly just be a seal like always

#

OI

hollow dock
#

yea not saying they have unique animations

tropic trail
#

I'M NOT A PEON

hollow dock
#

Rys was asking if they had the same animations as an arakkoa

tropic trail
#

holy shit so many blocked messages in general

#

some shit prolly going down

#

The moonkin forms for Zandalari?

#

Yeah.

frozen dust
#

My personal explanation for the Vindicaar not doing shit is the belf demon hunters got the Fel Hammer in the divorce and there's an orbital standoff going on for the entire expansion

sharp bluff
#

you need more minerals, but the minerals are on argus

tropic trail
#

Im taking the fel-dog!

meager warren
#

When was Jaina ever evil tho

sharp bluff
#

that one can easily be written off, but the writting is just so bad lately

terse patrol
#

what if the vindicaar evacuates teldrassil

tropic trail
#

she's a dreadlord

#

she's evil all the time

frozen dust
#

"We require more vespene gas"
"THE HELL IS THAT"

meager warren
#

Proof?

sharp bluff
#

๐Ÿค”

#

Honk careful

tropic trail
#

proof is that she's a dreadlord ๐Ÿ˜‰

sharp bluff
#

You will upset the elves

uncut vault
#

I feel like people overestimate the vindicaar

meager warren
#

Rys. That is begging the question

uncut vault
#

Itโ€™s got one laser beam that can cut through like 10 feet of rock

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And needs time to recharge each time itโ€™s used

sharp bluff
#

Blizz just needs some good writers ๐Ÿ˜‘

meager warren
#

We require blizz to quit hiring shitty writers who don't know how to improve themselves

strange falcon
#

@frozen dust you need to construct more pylons "WHAT ARE PYLONS,ANSWER ME"

terse patrol
#

@uncut vault the strength of the vindicaar isnt firepower, but its ability to act as a troop carrier

tropic trail
frozen dust
#

Christ

tropic trail
#

Get Christie Golden as an in-game writer :p

meager warren
#

That isn't proof lol

sharp bluff
#

๐Ÿค” I mean i guess?

tropic trail
#

It's proof because t h i c c thighs do not lie

#

everyone knows that

strange falcon
#

not understanding that skins are made as jokes ๐Ÿค”

tropic trail
#

^^^^

meager warren
#

,_,

tropic trail
#

not understanding that im memeing

#

Not understanding that I'm feeling something

meager warren
#

Not understanding that your memes are trash

strange falcon
#

you're just trolling if no one understands you're memeing

tropic trail
#

literally 5 minutes ago I was joking that I was saying dreadlord jaina as a joke

meager warren
#

And?

tropic trail
#

I said I was joking before I started saying that

#

and y'all are taking it serious

uncut vault
#

Pray that this next build is the music and login screen one

sharp bluff
#

on a serious note, written calmly, a lot of the choices lately (story wise), have been quite odd, even downright breaking established lore (such as the night elves losing to sticky corpses (I play forsaken, yes we stink)), did they change a big portion of their staff?

tropic trail
#

what I really want to know is if they have different teams

sour burrow
dense plover
#

i thought it was a boat

sharp bluff
#

looks like goblin made?

tropic trail
#

Pardon me

dense plover
#

i think its used for a world quest

sour burrow
#

Added 26707 and maybe it's a boat?

tropic trail
#

But what part of a map is that?

gray wigeon
#

That's N'zoth's personal pleasure airship

tropic trail
#

From*

zealous basalt
#

ur mums

uncut vault
#

Itโ€™s a venture co boat

dense plover
#

ptr build is c oming too, with character copy

sharp bluff
#

Zandalar

#

NW

tropic trail
#

Ah

#

kk

sharp bluff
#

west of the sands by looks of it

sour burrow
#

There's a small boat there, but that other thing's massive, and in fatigue-land.

sharp bluff
#

that... is that a battleship?

tropic trail
#

Looks like that one ship from Thousand Needles

sour burrow
#

I'll have to look when realms come up. It's been there for a while, though.

uncut vault
#

Itโ€™s a copy paste of Gallywixโ€™s ship

#

Venture co has them all over

gray wigeon
#

Might just be a ref marker for something later

sour burrow
#

4 large builds.

sharp bluff
#

Tobas try it on a DK, I think they can make it

#

I'll try with mine after work also

uncut vault
#

I suggest rogue + water strider

#

For grapple

sharp bluff
#

I never got to copy mine so no strider ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿฝ

sour burrow
#

Measuring the distance of the north non-fatigue area, yeah, it's possible to reach without dying.

uncut vault
#

Letโ€™s you get into the fully uninstanced, empty tol dagor

dense plover
#

i just told you

#

im pretty sure its part of a world quest

tropic trail
#

I'm pretty sure

#

That boat is coming to kill people

sharp bluff
#

I believe you peach, just want to see what is on it now

tropic trail
#

Heh... LITerally

sour burrow
#

This was the build before, interestingly. So there was a ship before, and it was moved, lol.

uncut vault
#

Maybe for potential lag reasons, move the area that you sail/fly to further out

#

Cause that harbor has a LOT of quests and world quests in it

tropic trail
#

I want another battleground like Alterac for BFA

dense plover
#

i think its a small goblin ship

#

its used for a tortollan world quest

sour burrow
#

(omfg, where's the build, lol...) So did we ever get an answer from blizzard on why the Seething Shore looking thing was removed from what's now a mysterious cove with a sunken city? :P

#

Cool.

dense plover
#

the thing there was moved

sour burrow
#

What about the sethrak encampment in the same screenshot?

dense plover
#

its the goblin azerite area near xibala now

sour burrow
#

Oh, I think I see it, Mrpeach.

#

Moved further south by the skeleton.

uncut vault
#

Maybe seething shore is actually ogrezonia, and we killed all the female ogres ๐Ÿค”

tropic trail
#

We didnt kill them

sour burrow
#

But yes, there's a Faithless encampment as the southernmost rocky area north of the harbor. Is there a world quest involving it?

tropic trail
#

male dwarves consumed their essence to create female dwarves

#

which is why their beards smell like ogres

#

the more you know

dense plover
#

think so

#

not sure

frozen dust
#

Does Rexxar only smell slightly of dorf beard then

hollow dock
#

I'd kill for that Rys

#

another Alterac styled BG

tropic trail
#

Absolutely

#

Definitely with BFA being a faction war expansion.

#

It'd make sense.

hollow dock
#

it would!

#

Make it like, massive 40 v 40 over the northern part of Kul Tiras and Zandalar.

strange falcon
#

World of Warcraft:BATTLE ROYALE

frozen dust
#

It's in Khadgar's living room

tropic trail
#

"where we landing bois"

frozen dust
#

Just rub it even harder in his face

strange falcon
#

let's land in the sand dome

tropic trail
sharp bluff
#

so anyone other DKs that are in the beta notice that they left our floating death pyramid in the broken isles?

hollow dock
#

yea

#

it's also still in the Eastern PLaguelands btw

#

like dalaran is still in northrend

sharp bluff
#

well I know, but our portal only leads to one

tropic trail
#

I want the darkspear islands tbh

#

that'd be a good way to introduce a new capital for an old race

#

without gameplay issues

hollow dock
#

Ah ok yea as a capital.

#

Maybe phase it like they do Sentinel Hill

#

after you do x quests it becomes a normal place

frozen dust
#

That'd be cool

tropic trail
#

A lot of people are contemplating whether or not they should reintroduce gilneas or give new capitals to the undead and night elves

#

Darkspear Isles though would be a good way to start though

#

Hardly any issues

hollow dock
#

reintroduce legion? O.o

tropic trail
#

Wait what

#

brain farts

#

meant gilneas

#

I was about to say.

hollow dock
#

ah ok.

tropic trail
#

I don't remember seeing that place

hollow dock
#

Understandable! we all have em

frozen dust
#

Reintroduce Legion

#

The nelves move to Argus

tropic trail
#

Oh god

hollow dock
#

LOL

tropic trail
#

mr peach comes out of shadows "They wont do that because it doesnt have max level content, remember cataclysm"

frozen dust
#

"dibs"

tropic trail
#

Not my beautiful Night elves ;-;

dense plover
#

rys

#

seriously

#

fuck off

hollow dock
#

I agree lilo ;3;

dense plover
#

ive asked you nicely to stop

#

im done being nice

#

fuck

hollow dock
#

he keeps editing it

dense plover
#

off

#

get off my back

tropic trail
#

Brain farts

#

Im just joking bro

#

calm down

dense plover
#

its not funny

#

ive asked you to stop

#

you are attacking me

#

directly

#

by name

hollow dock
#

Joke all ya want, but not at the expense of peeps.

tropic trail
#

Simmer down mate, he gets the message

dense plover
#

ive told him 3 times

#

not sure he does

tropic trail
#

Trust me, I'll get on his ass next time

#

;-)

dense plover
#

next time I WILL ping mods

tropic trail
#

Not like that..

dense plover
#

because attacking someone IS against the rules

tropic trail
#

:-(

#

I may be gay, but not with you mate

#

It's all in good humor, my friend

#

I do not have anything against you

hollow dock
#

It's not for peach tho.

tropic trail
#

just playfully teasing around

dense plover
#

if someone doesnt like something and they ask you to stop, you stop

#

if you keep going, it is no longer in 'good humor'

tropic trail
#

It's like kicking a mother bear.

dense plover
#

^

slate pulsar
#

Preach mrpeach

tropic trail
#

You'll stop when that bear rips your leg off.

frozen dust
#

mrpreach

tropic trail
#

Calm down, friend. I got your message. You can not be anymore clear.

dense plover
#

good

#

in other news

#

ptr build and beta build are both coming, login screen is likely since we got login music

tropic trail
#

You shouldn't make mod threats though.

dense plover
#

other music is possible as well

#

theres something like 340-ish music files waiting to be added

tropic trail
#

I'm curious though

dense plover
#

whicch is nearly double what legion had at launch

frozen dust
#

Jesus

dense plover
#

most will be varriations of the same thing - each zone usually has 11-15 variations of the same theme

#

and then cutscene music too

#

but it still means that there are probably multiple themes per zone

#

city music

tropic trail
#

Anyways, introducing the Darkspear Islands could work out.

dense plover
#

dungeon music

tropic trail
#

Max level content while also having low level players explore.

dense plover
#

and maybe island expedition music

tropic trail
#

I think it'd be a nice touch.

dense plover
#

probably even

tropic trail
#

I'm asking for Tel'Abim to be the capital of Night Elves

#

We want those Banana Elves

dense plover
#

lol

tropic trail
#

Banana ears

dense plover
#

tel abim is practically in horde territory

#

its neutral

tropic trail
#

Nah

dense plover
#

but the seas around it arent

tropic trail
#

Have to fight off the Banana People

#

It's all in good humor, friend. He is just joking

dense plover
#

lol

#

banana people

#

new allied race confirmed

tropic trail
#

Little walking bananas with spears

sour burrow
#

Banana people? Sethrak?

tropic trail
#

So cute

dense plover
#

tutti fruiti

frozen dust
#

Just drape banana peels over nelf ears

tropic trail
#

Though, you made an idea sprout in my mind Peach.

frozen dust
#

New allied race

sour burrow
#

Yellow skin snek.

tropic trail
#

What if, and hear me out. What if there is a new island shared by the Undead and the Night Elves

#

two capitals

#

That's called Northrend.

#

๐Ÿ˜‚

frozen dust
#

Sorry I got distracted by the idea of Tyrande in a coconut bra and hula skirt

tropic trail
#

...I'd like to see that tbh

#

blizzard employee comes out of shadows

#

"How would you like a job kid?"

#

Depends on what I'm doing as a job?

frozen dust
#

Gee that sounds swell mister

tropic trail
#

"Whatever includes getting tyrande in a that coconut bra"

#

I don't feel like being the Lewinsky for Morheim.

#

Crickets

frozen dust
#

I'd laugh if I got it :c

tropic trail
#

Monica Lewinsky, that's all you need to know

frozen dust
#

Ohhhhh.

tropic trail
#

Yep.

dense plover
#

new build

#

26869

sour burrow
#

thx

dense plover
#

its out on the realms

#

not client yet

sour burrow
#

Hmm, it's not flagging for me yet.

#

Ah.

#

869 is a moderate jump but well, they're also making ptr builds within that so...

#

Shout again if it's been pushed.

dense plover
#

ptr build should be the same build

#

just with the flag off

#

size will tell us of music

sour burrow
#

Yes but with work being done on both, more iterations.

dense plover
#

world servers are coming back up so client deploy should be soon

#

i mean

#

work is done on one version

#

and its distribute twice

#

they are only making iterations on one version

#

thats why its the same version for both

sour burrow
#

Yes but I still think they are making more frequent pushes to get the polish tested. Stuff found on ptr etc.

tropic trail
#

Are Zandalari Forms getting color variants aswell?

#

Seeing as how Kul Tiran Druids have color variations for the travel form

#

and flight form

#

and water form

dense plover
#

probably

#

there hasnt been a lot of work on them

lone marten
#

I wonder wath the water form will be?

dense plover
#

they arent coming with launch so there is no reason to work on them

lone marten
#

wat*

#

what*

tropic trail
#

What does mole machine do?

#

Also blizz, please add proper panties and underwear to Zandalari Trolls

sharp bluff
#

Loincloths?

tropic trail
#

Oh and PLEASE make the mount match the armor

hollow dock
#

That second one is the armor so far

tropic trail
#

Yep and the mount DOES NOT MATCH IT

#

like it does for the other allied races

#

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

#

Cool tats though on the direhorn

hollow dock
#

nice way to separate it to the thousand other direhorn mounts in the game

tropic trail
#

^^

dense plover
#

thats not the zandalari direhorn

#

thats the purchaseable one

#

the zandalari one is blue

#

it matches them

hollow dock
#

Oh

#

so wait

#

is it like the horridon mount

#

if its blue?

dense plover
#

wait

#

no that is it

#

ummm

#

hmmm

#

it does match

#

which is weird

#

maybe they changed it?

hollow dock
#

I will now assume that if it is Horridon's Mount model

#

it's just place holder

dense plover
#

it isnt

#

its just that the model viewer shaders are weird

#

it looks better in game

tropic trail
#

It's both

#

why is there no red on my mount

dense plover
#

its not a placeholder

tropic trail
#

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

meager warren
#

because red is lame

dense plover
#

it has new textures

meager warren
#

ayyyyy

tropic trail
#

So are they changing it or not

dense plover
#

like the model is similar to the old ones from pandaria

#

the base direhoprn is the same

#

but the textures are unique and much higher resolution

#

no

#

they arent changing it

#

its a unique color

#

it looks good

tropic trail
#

clears throat

dense plover
#

it doesnt look right on the model viewer

tropic trail
#

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

dense plover
#

itll match

hollow dock
#

OK so its not Horridon's?

dense plover
#

no

hollow dock
#

alright great.

dense plover
#

its kind of slate colored

tropic trail
#

There's no bloody red though!

dense plover
#

why would there be red?

tropic trail
#

because the zandalari armor has red

forest mango
#

Does anyone know what the best spec for mage is in BFA? I am frost but it seems like everyone is fire in bfa

tropic trail
#

A lot of red actually

dense plover
#

the zandalari armor is gold

#

the mount if covered in gold

#

also

#

the zandalari armor might not be that color

#

there are multiple colors for the orc and kul tiran versions

#

so i wouldnt be surprised if the base one is supposed to be green

hollow dock
#

Baby, there is no specific best spec yet

#

number tuning has not happened

dense plover
#

^

hollow dock
#

Wait for the numbers, which include damage values, scaling, etc etc etc, to be done

tropic trail
#

Also there's no purple on the zandalari armor

forest mango
#

oh okay ๐Ÿ˜ƒ i just got beta so ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

tropic trail
#

compared to the mount, which has a lot of purple

hollow dock
#

then decide

dense plover
#

it isnt purple in game

#

again

#

model viewer has weird shaders

tropic trail
#

actually that image took too long to load

#

bad wifi

#

so I posted that before I seen what you said

#

about the model viewer

#

"Baby"

#

gag

mint holly
#

The "best" spec is the spec you enjoy playing the most, the playstyle you feel most comfortable and confident with.

dense plover
#

thats their username

tropic trail
#

Right.

dense plover
#

it is

#

go look

forest mango
#

๐Ÿ˜›

dense plover
#

see?

tropic trail
#

bruh these nuts stink

#

ima just find something else to eat

#

Then wash them..?

#

they're salty though

#

I dont want to wash away the salt

dense plover
#

nuts are supposed to float

#

if they sink it means they are overcooked or rotten

sour burrow
#

Still none. Huh.

dense plover
#

unrelated, but thats how seeds work

mint holly
#

/facepalm at this convo.. if anyone just happened upon it, without context.. omg lmao

tropic trail
#

XD

dense plover
#

we are going stir crazy

#

build impatience

mint holly
#

I know.. I keep checking sigh

dense plover
#

ill make an announcement like always

#

i promise

mint holly
#

only 4:30 here tho so I still have several hours that I could play

uncut vault
#

as an actual enjoyable spec, people will probably be going fire since despite all the stuff it's losing, it has an actual rotation, unlike the other two specs

#

so unless frost/arcane do insane damage post-tuning, fire will be popular

mint holly
#

I find frost, in all of it's simplicity, actually very fun to play

sour burrow
#

They posted about the beta an hour and a half ago. |3

uncut vault
#

the simplicity is about 1 button in BfA

mint holly
#

it's been 1 button, if you wait for the procs to use flurry and ice lance, apart from doing aoe

#

But you can still talent for Ebonbolt

#

which procs insta Flurry

tropic trail
#

Frost on DK is pretty fun for me tbh

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new build or not?

mint holly
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But, if you get lucky on procs, frost mages can do some really good damage, at least in Legion. I've not gotten high enough on the beta to test it in LFR

forest mango
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I been seeing everyone in fire thats why i asked ๐Ÿ˜›

mint holly
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Also, all opinions are good and matter, it's a personal taste in rotations and priorities ๐Ÿ˜„

dense plover
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new build is coming, isnt out yet

mint holly
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I started as fire on my mage in Legion, even had the helm legendary that paired well with Alexstraza's fury talent

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I just enjoyed frost more

dense plover
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someone asked about this

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its apparently auto-enabled

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so thats cool

tropic trail
hollow dock
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All of her actions are incredibly well thought and paced.

tropic trail
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Yes.

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That's why she attacked Eyir.

hollow dock
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To be fair if it wasn't for Genn she'd have succeeded

tropic trail
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To be fair its just my reaction and not yours

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though I appreciate your feedback on a meme

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TyRAnDe

hollow dock
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your reaction is a meme?

tropic trail
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Im using a meme to describe my reaction

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Or is the meme his reaction?

hollow dock
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yea and Im taking your reaction, which I can only infer is that Sylvanas is doing stupid actions, seriously and wishing to inform you that from a storytelling standpoint and from a character standpoint, it's not. o;

tropic trail
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Tyrande is the best elven queen, change my mind.

hollow dock
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can't do so Lilo cuz you right

tropic trail
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Exactly.

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We night elves are much better than those mana sucking blood elves.

dense plover
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i mean

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there is no other elven queen

tropic trail
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why are you such a party pooper

dense plover
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so theres no argument

tropic trail
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And we also have a lot of wood a lot of big, thick wood

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Azshara

dense plover
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azshara is a naga now

hollow dock
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azshara isn't an elf

tropic trail
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She's our queen.

dense plover
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she stopped being an elf 10k years ago

tropic trail
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I mean.

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She can still become an elf.

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technically tyrande isnt a queen either

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As seen in Aszuna.

dense plover
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thats just magic

tropic trail
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But with magical

dense plover
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she still is a naga

hollow dock
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Yea but it's polymorph. in terms of D&D

dense plover
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^

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pretty much this

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her true form is still that of a naga

tropic trail
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Her true form is beautiful.

dense plover
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blood elves have lorthemar, he isnt a king

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and nightborne have thalyssra but she isnt a queen

tropic trail
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ya

dense plover
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tbh tyrande technically isnt a queen either

hollow dock
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it is

dense plover
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shes just their leader

tropic trail
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thats what I said

dense plover
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do they ever call her queen?

tropic trail
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They call her Priestess or Moon Priestess.

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Or TyRAnDE

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Saurfang is elune

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mY LoVE COmE sAvE mE

hollow dock
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she's High Priestess of Elune

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Thus they call her 'High Priestess'

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or 'Mistress' once or twice.

tropic trail
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maybe she's just a normal priestess

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Gags at Mistress

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thats high

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on felweed

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M I S T R E S S M A I E V

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I have a question but I feel it'd be too lewd

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ask

hollow dock
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ask in DMs then

tropic trail
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dont be shy

dense plover
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this isnt a nsfw channel

tropic trail
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...Is Sylvanas Nathanos' mistress?

jade basalt
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Tyrande is called queen of the night elves once

dense plover
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oh

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no

jade basalt
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by naga ๐Ÿ˜›

hollow dock
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in life probably

dense plover
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its the other way around

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nathanos is 100% sylvanas' boy toy

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theres literally a short story

hollow dock
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Nathanos is not Sylvanas' mistress

tropic trail
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I dont think nathanos would hit that

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Like I can't help but imagine Nathanos being chained up to a plague machine as things happen.

hollow dock
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Nathanos did hit that Rys

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heavily implied

tropic trail
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but no factual evidence

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so therefore

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no

hollow dock
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Short story explaining his new body

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where they went back in time

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and remembered the time where both were alive

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and young

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and not dead.

sour burrow
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*antsy/annoyed* build plzzz...

tropic trail
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LiNk iT

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Be hitting that sussy

hollow dock
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alone. In Tirisfal.

dense plover
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"He turned to Sylvanas. "How do I look?" He tried to sound as if the question meant nothing to him. But it did.

"Such vanity, Blightcaller!" Amusement laced her voice, but he sensed delight in it as well. Was she pleased that the mighty Val'kyr had been bent to her will, or was she simply relishing the acquisition of a new toy? She guided him toward a large oval mirror that hung in an ornate frame upon the wall. "See for yourself.""

hollow dock
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^