it currently fairs better than dx11 on mid-end rigs, with higher total fps, but it has stability issues which will hopefully be resolved
#beta-ptr-spoilers
dense plover
dense plover
"With the current Beta build, Beta testers are experiencing the entirety of the Warfronts: Battle for Stromgarde experience. An alternating cycle kicked off on Thursday, June 7 between the Horde and Alliance vying for control of Stromgarde and Arathi Highlands. Both Horde and Alliance testers have queued since then.
Here’s an outline of how the cycle works:
The Alliance starts with ownership of Arathi Highlands, and Horde players challenge them by contributing professions items, gold, and War Resources to help their faction build up enough strength to attack. This is a region-wide effort.
Once enough contributions are supplied by the region, the Warfront: Battle for Stromgarde unlocks and Horde players are able to queue for the experience. This queue remains open for a set duration, allowing players to complete the Warfront on a schedule that works for them.
After the Horde attack is complete, the Horde takes control of Arathi Highlands, giving them access to a unique World Boss and a series of rare spawns and other rewards only available during the period when their faction owns the zone.
The Alliance then begins contributing resources to challenge Horde control.
The cycle continues perpetually, with each faction competing against the other to gain access more quickly or reduce the enemy team’s access to the zone. Currently, the queue window in the Beta is set to remain open for 2 days.
Notably, this update included a first look at a completely updated version of the Arathi Highlands zone, including new creatures, as well as access to your faction’s base in the zone, and plenty of other surprises.
Please feel free to post your feedback on Warfronts in this thread, and please submit issues with Warfronts to our BFA Beta Bug Report Forum."
sour burrow
"Plenty other surprises" secrets?
dense plover
probably
uncut vault
Oh thank god they’re changing motherlode, I’m happy about that
Maybe they can change some of the mobs while they’re at it
uncut vault
I just want those weird Moira mindbenders to use their orbs less, if they’re irritating and nearly a wipe on normal, gonna be a nightmare on keystones
jade basalt
Yes
uncut vault
Except the Druid forms, they are account wide atm
frigid crater
Learn more about Battle for Azeroth Expansion - http://www.wowhead.com/battle-for-azeroth-expansion.
Be first to hear about latest Beta additions and changes - http://www.wowhead.com/battle-for-azeroth-beta-datamining.
Interested in Lore of Battle for Azeroth? Check out the http://www.wowhead.com/the-lore-of-battle-for-azeroth Guide.
viscid bobcat
The additions page links to the lore page
tropic trail
I hope next expansion has a very medieval fantasy feel. I dont have the beta yet but so far it looks kind of like that.
with Kul Tiras
hollow dock
but the alliance sucks I thought
tropic trail
no, just the community
untold fractal
I get a more colonial feel from wht I have seen of Kul Tiras
still lily
No the alliance is pretty horrible o3o
hollow dock
Horde has more 'ancient meso-american' feel.
untold fractal
indeed
tropic trail
After Legion Im ready for another Azeroth themed expansion focused around Medieval Fantasy
hollow dock
there won't be one.
tropic trail
Hopefully the expansion after BFA.
zealous basalt
And a ship
still lily
and uhh most of all the wrath of the old gods or the threat of azeroth fucking exploding o3o
hollow dock
tbh the last time WoW was ever Medieval was WC1
zealous basalt
A space ship
still lily
Honestly at this rate Azeroth's going to become another outland
frigid crater
@viscid bobcat fixed. Thank you 😃
tropic trail
Im just going to stop talking in this channel
hollow dock
othankgod
urban dew
Black Empire expansion when?
hollow dock
PLS^
untold fractal
I mean the alliance still has an over all medieval feel, with the alliance capital, nature based elves, the Draenai kinda mess it up with being space goats, and aesthetic from Gilneas more closely match early to mid 1800's
hollow dock
LEMME GET ALL DEM TENTACLES
untold fractal
yeah but who cares about them
hollow dock
WC2 is when Warcraft lost its medieval only fantasy
tropic trail
@untold fractal Can we talk in #retail-wow?
hollow dock
I'll just follow y'all there
jagged elk
Blood Troll allied race? https://clips.twitch.tv/SecretiveAgreeableFriesBlargNaut
distant folio
what?
I thought he was referring to the many instances of you transforming into a blood troll
were they announced as an allied race?
distant folio
I'm confused, the guy talking does not say "blood troll allied race"
urban dew
I think the Alliance tried to recruit the blood trolls to join them
You can imagine how well that turned out
distant folio
The human who was sent for diplomacy became one of the blood trolls' leaders and then was put down by you yea
distant folio
Ah
hollow dock
[8:36 PM] Aratus: Blood Troll allied race? how miss this
still lily
right on, I'ma need to febreze my eyes to get the stench of blood troll out
urban dew
I'm tempted to play some of the Beta
But I really don't want to spoil it all for myself
hollow dock
dont do it birb
then you'll find out all the spoilers
like Rezan dying
and Jaina dying*
still lily
o3o
tranquil steeple
hollow dock
*technically
urban dew
I meant more along the lines of that I'll be running it all alot
I don't wanna burn myself out before the Xpac even comes out
still lily
I am fine with Jaina dying
hollow dock
whai
still lily
Handy hands
untold fractal
I seriously hoping to get a beta key, its really the only way I am gonna get to play the expansion. I start grad school 2 days after release
grizzled sleet
Jaina won't die, Sylvanas won't die, Azshara won't die, no one will die.
BUT AZEROTH WILL FALL
urban dew
If I could pass my beta access to someone, I would.
grizzled sleet
I have a lot of work to do, if Blizzard want to ruin my life, they can simply give me a beta key
zealous basalt
...
Vris
begins /argue
Methinks it is just a way to see how lost in dispair she went
hollow dock
Well she is pulled into the realm of the dead
untold fractal
I mean technically sylvanus has died a couple of times. She just keeps getting brought back
zealous basalt
Traveling around
Ikd
65 worlds
everyone with some continents
Make this game 1tb
oof
tranquil steeple
lul
zealous basalt
3.36 tbs
untold fractal
I dont have nearly that much.... must be a pleb
zealous basalt
Of SSD m.1
hollow dock
u r casul red
untold fractal
I am indeed'
work, family, school.... just dont got time to hardcore game anymore
still lily
Family = Lowtier
lol
Everyone knows that a family build is lowtier
what are you
a pleb
untold fractal
I can promise you that my family feels tht way when I am playing
still lily
a job build is also pretty mediocre
uncut vault
Well, I’m happy for the people who wanted blood trolls.
untold fractal
blood trolls do look pretty cool
grizzled sleet
More draenei, more tauren, more humans, more elves, more trolls, more dwarfs... We need more panda
grizzled sleet
More undead
untold fractal
I agree with more undead
hollow dock
no more undead
untold fractal
we need undead elves and tauren and trolls and orcs
hollow dock
cuz then the sylvanas fanbois come
hollow dock
Link to what thing
terse patrol
the thing about blood trolls
meager warren
Blood trolls are amazing
meager warren
Don't they have the same model as jungle trolls?
meager warren
O
grizzled sleet
Blood troll for the horde, naga for the alliance.
rich apex
uncut vault
Im betting theyll announce prepatch date on thursday, and have the ptr go up on tuesday
rich apex
Hooopefully
grizzled sleet
I hope it's in mid-july
uncut vault
Im hoping for july 10th or 17th, based on past ptr cycles itll be the 17th, full month of ptr
which Id be fine with, gives me a month or so to get my last 200 rating
grizzled sleet
I need to finish 2k rating for few classes and mage tower for some specs so I hope it's on 17th
urban dew
Smol armor wall
grizzled sleet
Same for me but with Kultiran shaman with this season elite set
if they can be shaman :x
the skin is red
with the new elemental model it's awesome
fire elemental
tropic trail
tattoos looks like you have a goatee
other than that nice tmog
Looking up Mag'har Orcs and Dark Irons on the discord most of the people here seem to like dark irons much more
anything relating to mag'hars are just negative or them being upright
tropic trail
I dont think racials alone are the reason people are neglecting mag'har orcs but it definitely adds to it, sadly.
molten gyro
@grizzled sleet is there a pic?
grizzled sleet
a pic of what?
molten gyro
Same for me but with Kultiran shaman with this season elite set
if they can be shaman :x
the skin is red
with the new elemental model it's awesome(edited)
fire elemental
sounds awesome
grizzled sleet
One second
Elite skin : http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/657723.jpg
The new fire elemental model : https://www.mamytwink.com/upload/news/2018/juin/08/elementaire-feu-battle-for-azeroth.jpg
grizzled sleet
model viewer : http://www.wowhead.com/dressing-room#RM0k0zJ89b8ONv8zcE8ONC8zcE8OuF8zcE8ONn8zcE87mONJ8zcE8ONg8zcE8ONF8zcE8ONl8zcE8ONx8zcE8Cuz87cA
uncut vault
you can view it on kul tirans if you want
helm is a bit wonky but man is that nice on them
grizzled sleet
I hope they can be shamans because I can't keep with dwarfs
do you think female kultian faces are not yet finished or this is what we'll get ?
uncut vault
Neither of them are finished, faces especially
grizzled sleet
Cool then, so npcs will keep those faces until they update them when kultiran are released or do you think they're going to update them on beta?
uncut vault
Most likely they will keep the current faces, since there's more than enough for the NPCS we have in game
but they do need work for playability
grizzled sleet
Ok 
uncut vault
currently all the armor they wear in game is custom fitted to them
basically any other armor has a lot of bugs and issues
grizzled sleet
Ok 
mint arch
hey, they got what they wanted, fat human xD
grizzled sleet
Snorlax
molten gyro
wtf is on her face? Alien.
urban dew
I'd much prefer Sethrak
grizzled sleet
Fat humans eat snakes
terse patrol
i dont get why blizzard is sticking to their guns on female kul tirans
rich apex
Can't believe Blizz isn't remaking a model from the ground up in the middle of the expansion cycle, smh
Wouldn't want a lady that's got some meat on her
zealous basalt
word
mint arch
either blizzard don't have the time to fix the kul'tirans
or they really just want to push fat humans
rich apex
something something Allied Races are lazy designs
mint arch
das true
rich apex
except when they're fat, in which case they're too different
And need to look more like base humans
mint arch
but the fixes ppl have brought up are simple
rich apex
mint arch
its basic work on the model
mint arch
the female model right now looks like base model
just fat
thats the issue we have with it
lol
its the art team's job
and its not every forum goer
a few ppl, one in particular, has made extremely good edits of the model to showcase what a simple change can do to improve the model
zealous basalt
bla bla bla
rich apex
Is it making a draenei model but with white skin
mint arch
lul
zealous basalt
bla bla bla
rich apex
Quality design
rich apex
uncut vault
work you don't like =/= lazy
rich apex
TFW Kul'tirans are the one Allied Race that isn't just a reskin
(Tho the other reskins are mighty fine reskins. And them being reskins is why we're getting 8 races at once)
sharp bluff
^
zealous basalt
but shit on fem kultirans
mint arch
oh boy, using the word fat has triggered some ppl, poor souls need their safe space xD
uncut vault
nah man, I personally dont like kul tiran women, they must be lazy
mint arch
tropic trail
i wonder if they plan on giving nightborn their own animations or if they are gonna use the old nightelf ones forever?
i know they reduced the shoulder armor size for nightborn in bfa atleast
mint arch
own animations would require lotta work
tropic trail
not it wouldnt lol
mint arch
blizzard still working on class animations
so they'd need to finish those up before moving on to race animations
tropic trail
it would take one person an evening, maybe less to rig some animations up to that old skeleton
mint arch
well, blizzard don't work like that xD
tropic trail
someone lied to you about how much effort it would take lol
rich apex
It would take one evening to modify
but clearly Blizz devs clock out early for happy hour
every day
tropic trail
lmao
rich apex
terse patrol
eh my issue is
rich apex
Pay no mind to the entire development of the rest of BFA
tropic trail
they should hold a community contest for people to design animations and armor for the game and then accept the best of the entries and give the winner something good lol
terse patrol
They don’t look like the monster fighters they say they are. The males are fine. The females look like housewives
I’m fine with them being pudgy.
But give them muscle.
tropic trail
the kultiran females are fishwives.
mint arch
nah, we're not allowed to talk about this
terse patrol
I’m also still waiting for proper black options for humans
mint arch
making suggestions for improvements is bad
tropic trail
" Oi Loik Tou Foight Houde Cuz Theh Evol" - kultiran fishwife
terse patrol
when tf can we play black people rather than white people with black skin.
tropic trail
nah man, she doesnt have any feet
tropic trail
pegleg confirmed!
mint arch
tropic trail
int his day and age people would scream blackface and writh in the streets over anythign they added
mint arch
simple face edit, already much better
tropic trail
damn that is leagues better
mint arch
terse patrol
yep
mint arch
he did the edit with the scars and such
tropic trail
fits the art of the game better even
terse patrol
those faces are nicer
tropic trail
plastic looking even
tropic trail
i was excited for the prospect of straight back undead.
mint arch
terse patrol
but ye, compare the kul tiran females face with the males. The male face is higher quality
mint arch
the body changes are also nice, simple edit for muscle and tone
uncut vault
tfw "I want them to be more muscular" proceeds to give them smaller arms
just say you dont like them having a stomach
terse patrol
that model is actually too skinny for me
terse patrol
i want the females to be akin to the bulkiness of the males
Just not fat
I want Zarya please @uncut vault
tropic trail
the males are even a bit too fat
sour burrow
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEFElM2XcAAFjny.jpg Interesting to think that's Kul Tiras with an extra island south of it, heh.
tropic trail
the skinny option just uses the female undead skeleton and it is horrid
uncut vault
Like, I think those face edits are fine, so long as they keep a soft option too, but the body edit is just so obviously "I want conventionally attractive buff women"
tropic trail
conventially
mint arch
the dude who did the body edits said he didnt try hard at it
his focus was on the face edits
tropic trail
the body edits arent bad
uncut vault
they arent bad at all, theyre quite good, theyre just clearly not the image blizz has for the kul tiran women
if you want big muscular women, the horde is there waiting for you
terse patrol
pffft
tropic trail
blizz is just trying to please the sjw crowd im sure
I mean, I find them kinda haute in a weird way.
terse patrol
@uncut vault Even Orc women need a rework
terse patrol
They’re really close to human females
tropic trail
lets be fair, worgen need a rework before all else
They sound like Lemmy Kilmister with a higher pitched voice
mint arch
regardless of the body
tropic trail
I'm down with the thiccness though
mint arch
the face edits needs to happen imo
zealous basalt
I like how they look tbh, the other face looks so sore...
tropic trail
kultiran humans are possibly the most bland race of the expansion
zealous basalt
They aren't just a reskin tho...
terse patrol
tropic trail
they live by the sea, eat a diet of mostly fish, are riggers and sailors and somehow everyone is fat
zealous basalt
Beer makes you fat m8
jade basalt
I mean there isn't 289 different ways to make another type of human. Giant, burly human is one of the most distinct appearance for another type of human compared to the "regular" ones, so they literally could not have done better.
tropic trail
They look nothing like they're supposed to in-game
jade basalt
In-game orcs are ew.
tropic trail
Of course, we get anorexic humans too, don't we?
jade basalt
Playable ? Nope
tropic trail
Ah
zealous basalt
Apparently
tropic trail
Sorry for asking
zealous basalt
no one flips shit about them
tropic trail
someone needs to go back and learn how to scale armor peices to thier respective models
terse patrol
Blizzard goes too far in trying to make WoW females “attractive”
zealous basalt
Why do you think Sylv is warchief
And we saw it a few hours with that one called Go ku
tropic trail
orc shoulder armor is way too huge, like most male shoulder gear
terse patrol
I want the races females to look like their races
terse patrol
How is it that orc males have orc mouths, but orc females have human mouths but with tusks.
mint arch
thing is though, sex sells
tropic trail
I need to stay silent I repeatedly tell myself
the real question is why are orc females so much damn smaller than the males?
Because they're not a wolf with teeth?
Sorry, Grom
proportionatly most of the female models in game are vastly smaller than the males
zealous basalt
You know
tropic trail
Tbh, I'd like to see a race where females take charge, almost like val'kyr
ill pass ont hat
on that*
zealous basalt
They once tried making this game with no sex selling
terse patrol
You mean...
zealous basalt
But horde was dying
terse patrol
Night Elves?
uncut vault
That was night elves pre-cata
jade basalt
This is closer to what orc models should look like.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavHvr3X0AEA8hd.jpg
https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/004/390/220/large/wei-wang-orc-body-green-001-small-size.jpg?1483333085
https://i.imgur.com/i8vC8Dd.png
Instead we get this. I don't even get why literally every orc face is Garrosh's face. https://res.cloudinary.com/lmn/image/upload/fl_lossy,q_80/f_auto/v1/gameskinny/a21a982f3d0cd9f63a18590f448866f5.jpg
zealous basalt
So they made Blood elves
zealous basalt
Garrosh looked like that tho
uncut vault
the upright stance helped with the monkey face
terse patrol
Blizzard is pulling in a bigger and bigger female audience
zealous basalt
Thank people like Goku
uncut vault
You're mad that women are major characters? lmao
terse patrol
So its not surprising
jade basalt
The first picture is Rexxar's model in BFA without the armor. I'm saying it looks closer to what an orc should look like than the actual orc model we got.
@tropic trail
zealous basalt
No, I am mad that they giving them oversexualixed bodies in purpose
jade basalt
"pure orc" Woah calm down Garrosh
tropic trail
I meant pure-bred.
uncut vault
I mean, where is a single woman in BfA thats sexualized?
jade basalt
Garrosh I said calm down !
tropic trail
Hmmm..
terse patrol
I think you could pull off making an orcy female attractive looking in a Amazon, brutal way.
uncut vault
Yes, they had a HUGE problem with that in the past but
tropic trail
The witches?
zealous basalt
And people qq to make them sexualised
uncut vault
so far the men show way more skin
tropic trail
They look pretty sexy to me
yea no port im not mad that female characters are the majority of BFA's focus, it just seems over the top considering current events
jade basalt
tropic trail
Not sexual AT ALL
jade basalt
This fan art looks better for me. https://pre00.deviantart.net/a280/th/pre/f/2012/231/6/d/nightelf_by_nadrojwobrek-d5boq8e.jpg
mint arch
lol, sex sells is why things are sexy
tropic trail
Either way, it's not much protection.
maybe if the female characters werent written all the same way
tropic trail
^
terse patrol
idk why yall think thats a new look
tropic trail
I never did?
jade basalt
Nobody said that.
tropic trail
???
zealous basalt
It looks bad but that's how the Engine is
terse patrol
anyways, black options for humans when
jade basalt
It's not an engine issue.
terse patrol
they literally had a chance with kul tirans to have options
tropic trail
I just want some female ogres mate
terse patrol
but nope
jade basalt
They just wanted to give them the iconic look some night elves had in previous art (Vanilla cinematic..)
uncut vault
That's a fair point, but Id point to the men to say it's equal opportunity. I guess major characters was a better way to say it
Jaina, Sylvanas, Talanji, Katherine
first two got redesigns for more practical armor
jade basalt
Ashvane, Grand Mada Ateena
terse patrol
do i have to wait for blizzard to add a specifically black allied race
jade basalt
Lots of important female characters in BFA.
uncut vault
latter two are wearing practical armor
zealous basalt
Dark irons man
jade basalt
Moira too
terse patrol
Dark Irons aren’t black people.
uncut vault
the point Im making isnt "there are female characters" people are saying that blizzard just wants to make sexualized women, which, if it were two or three expansions ago, I'd agree
terse patrol
@tropic trail a dark skin option, and no “black” face options or hair styles
zealous basalt
You never said that you wanted a nibba
uncut vault
but in BfA, all the major women characters have practical, full armor
tropic trail
WrA I would definitely agree
terse patrol
@zealous basalt wow
terse patrol
how
zealous basalt
They are dark?
terse patrol
How are they even remotely comparable?
zealous basalt
Almost ash?
jade basalt
Humans and Tirasian both have black (brown-skinned) skin options
uncut vault
When people say they want black skin tones, they want human black skin tones
the "lol we have black ash skin" is a 2004 era joke
terse patrol
We want dark, human skin tones with black face options and hair.
jade basalt
They did
jade basalt
Brown humans allied race
terse patrol
they’re giving Blood Elves new face models with gold eyes
tropic trail
I still want new models for a lot of things.
west relic
tropic trail
its just a pre-existing eye option for the blood elf model that has been around since wrath
Worgens, gnolls..
mint arch
ya, what ur asking is for the Caucasian based human model to be redesigned
jade basalt
To think they put troggs on Kul Tiras instead of gnolls, doing gnoll things instead of trogg things.
Troggs.
zealous basalt
Cannonically they should have added the golden eyes in WotlK
tropic trail
Troggs already had model updates
uncut vault
Id settle for just the skin tones honestly. Id love the whole package, but I dont ever expect it
jade basalt
In preparation for BFA.
tropic trail
I wouldn't mind seeing some of the void elf hairstyles for Blood Elves
mint arch
honestly wow should have these customisation options for all races, more variety
tropic trail
Also, quick question
i dont see WoW ever havng that
Are all void elves former blood elves or is there a chance that some of them were high elves too?
uncut vault
Im hoping that in whatever the next xpac is, they focus on some player customization, swap around some belf and velf hairstyles, give both of them some new skin tones
tropic trail
maybe when they are tired of making expansions and the game is just on small update mode
uncut vault
As of now, all void elves are former blood elves
we dont know if the process can be done again
jade basalt
WoW is terrible at character customization. You can't even change your eye color independantly from your entire face. Hell, if you're a night elf, you can't even choose to have no beard without removing your eyebrows. You either have eyebrows and a beard on your face or you have no facial hair at all.
mint arch
aye port, blizzard need a time to just focus on the customisation and models and such
they can do it, its just matter of time
and players need to be cool with lack of content during that time
hell, maybe release classic during that time
zealous basalt
That is a good idea
tropic trail
I think they should let some classes have a unique option for customization, like giving Night Elf dks the option for black hair
blizz has so many employees that they can continue to make content whiel another team works on a different project
mint arch
all races should have heritage armor
tropic trail
hell most of BFA was done during legion being worked on
uncut vault
All nelfs should have the black hair option
jade basalt
Black hair should be an option for any night elf regardless of class
tropic trail
They already have a team working on an unannounced project while doing all this stuff
uncut vault
same with both genders deserving both eyes
tropic trail
Also
Give us leper gnomes!
undead need a rework too
I like the chinese forsaken tbh
They make more sense anatomically than the world-wide release version
the chinese versions looks liek an odd off-white bag
Sounds like me
uncut vault
they look exactly like the normal ones, just without the gaps of bone
tropic trail
And the spine poking out..
chisti golden wrote the undead as being paper frail
yet we have undead warriors and deathknights
Eh
I mean
Undead Death knights die 3 times
uncut vault
players are more powerful than the default of a race by default
uncut vault
plus not all undead were risen in the third war, plenty of current ones are from Cata
zealous basalt
After watching "Sylvanas purrs"
tropic trail
...
zealous basalt
I...don't know what to think about Christie
zealous basalt
No please
tropic trail
You've aroused my.. curiosity.
zealous basalt
OGOD NO
uncut vault
I mean
tropic trail
I do too...
the way she portrays a character is typical and homogenized, simular to how Robert Jordan wrote conan the barbarian
urban dew
Can't tell if they're joking or not
uncut vault
the blood troll clip sounds like an accidental slip up IMO
tropic trail
Could be
uncut vault
that or he just meant to say zandalari and stuck with it
tropic trail
Personally, I've been pretty oblivious to the actual gameplay of BfA
urban dew
I remember reading that the Alliance tries to recruit the Blood Trolls to join them
tropic trail
So I know very little of what the stories are
its more of the samea s legion, but the combat is slower
as*
uncut vault
they try, but the blood trolls just used the alliance as sacrifices
uncut vault
it was one commander who was desperate, turned into a blood troll disciple, blood trolls used her all along
zealous basalt
of that book and its writting
urban dew
Yeah
west relic
Vulpera
uncut vault
maybe thats the real reason sylvanas is recruiting them :^)
tropic trail
I would like to see more neutral races though
Maybe even offer Blood Elves as such in the future..?
uncut vault
Theyre sure setting up blood elves and high elves finally reconciling, I hope it happens in BfA, whether through neutral race or the probable ending of the faction conflict in BfA
tropic trail
I say WoW definitely needs more neutral races
west relic
We have pandas.
urban dew
But people say Blizz don't want to do any more neutral races.
uncut vault
I saw that
zealous basalt
World of warcraft
The begginging of the end
Watch as the factions are destroyed
In a post-apocaliptic world
rich apex
God I can dream but it'll never happen
zealous basalt
Play against players
In the first true pvp expaction
And become Azeroth's apex predator
rich apex
That'll never happen either 😛
zealous basalt
(Image of a tuskar)
Oh no, im making an add
Play in a new whole destroyed world
From Level 1, to level 1337
Ten revamped classes, all neutral races
urban dew
World of Battle Royale (Last BR joke, I'm sorry)
tropic trail
the look on her face
zealous basalt
"Just wait until you turn back, you fuckin kunt mate
grizzled sleet
I think I found where Najzatar will spawn
Kultiras Map but there is something else in the south
You can see it clearly if you zoom the image
it doesn't seem 100% land, a little bit transparent
grizzled sleet
But maybe it's Nazjatar and it still planned for another patch
uncut vault
it probably is planned, but that map doesnt point to anything
grizzled sleet
ruby prawn
We got that map so long ago
I can still remember some speculations about it
Good times
tropic trail
I have a question for y'all
Would y'all rather play Mag'har Orcs or Dark Iron Dwarves. If you had to choose.
hollow dock
neither tbh
tropic trail
If you had to choose.
hollow dock
My answer doesn't change
tropic trail
Why reply then?
untold fractal
Dark Iron dwarves, im not a fan of orcs of any kind.
oak gust
Dark Iron Dwarves
deft escarp
Dark Iron Dwarf>rest of the allied races
sudden oak
mag'har im not very fond of dwarves
meager warren
mag'har
meager warren
traitor
viscid bobcat
lel, I'd be alliance if my friends werent insistent on horde
meager warren
pfff who needs friends
deft escarp
Good guys>Morally gray
viscid bobcat
Or overtly crazy 😂
sour burrow
lol Mimig at least you got a reply to that map thing. No one said a word when I posted it.
tropic trail
My friend wont go horde because he has too many friends on the alliance
viscid bobcat
My predicament :\
sour burrow
That's why you need more awesome things on each faction. Also most people will have a reason to have a character on each side after this expansion.
tropic trail
Damn right
ruby prawn
They are more powerful and much more interesting
sullen dagger
i think that's quite hard to measure
the power i mean
also, what do you find interesting about the horde?
tropic trail
They're more diverse and although it varies depending on server, overall they are for the most part much friendlier
Also, I think it should be added to where you can be in the group with people but not preventing them from queueing for dungeons and what-not
hollow dock
On Rys' server theyre pretty friendly. On my server they're just assholes.
tropic trail
I play 5 servers.
tropic trail
Well, as I said, it varies depending on server.
Not that you would notice that, though.
blissful jungle
I like WrA and it's better on Horde. I like playing Horde characters and I like Orgrimmar. I like SW and some of the Alliance races as well.
Overall, I'm probably 55 : 45 Horde Alliance.
hollow dock
Considering that all my horde interactions have been of assholes. Yea.
sullen dagger
wra?
blissful jungle
I'm an asshole at times :') but that's not because I play one faction or the other
hollow dock
Wymrest accord
blissful jungle
Accidently ganking someone because I didn't realize I phased into a PvP realm while grouping for WQs is fun...and an oops moment.
tropic trail
Is that what you mean by asshole vris? Ganking?
hollow dock
I roleplay on WrA and MG. most griefers been horde players. Anytime I've tried to make a new horde character just to try it out, been harshly treated for askin simple questions.
tropic trail
just wondering.
hollow dock
Like 'Where's X' or 'how do I get to X' and then they call me an inbred.
tropic trail
cant wait to go horde
hollow dock
Im happy for ya. Just don't say they're overall good. Neither side is
blissful jungle
I like the Alliance's allied races (the preorder ones at least) better than the Horde's
I wish I could play any faction with my characters, lol.
Well, kinda...not really. But I like the idea.
tropic trail
A lot of people here disagree about Lightforged Draenei
blissful jungle
I like Draenei but I'd prefer if the Lightforged weren't just 99% Paladins now
sullen dagger
well it fits the lore
blissful jungle
It does, and the racials
sullen dagger
^
blissful jungle
Anyways @hollow dock I wouldn't treat you harshly ingame. I like helping people out.
hollow dock
that's good.
hollow dock
https://realmpop.com/us-drenden.html my main one is pretty nice.
cinder knoll
does it matter?
well, it does, mythic raids and auction, if you are in the smaller part
but some people prefer that
brave cypress
@sullen dagger Dun modr alliance is probably the best option to do mythic raiding in Spain and it's alliance heavy sided
horde in dun are few and they are mostly in pvp clans who go hunt single alliance players in groups xD
uncut vault
Finally read everything, I think this has knocked Tides of War out of my favorite Warcraft novel spot
lilac berry
You guys going to ask why San'layn Allied race were canceled ?
ruby prawn
@sullen dagger the Horde did something the Legion couldn't in 3 tries
Burn that world tree and drive the nelves out of Ashenvale
lilac berry
Azerite. @ruby prawn
tropic trail
canceled?
viscid bobcat
It wasnt confirmed
hollow dock
it wasn't even hinted at
tropic trail
hinted enough for people to start making videos about... smh
hollow dock
A single san'layn was added into the game. So clearly that's the hint of them being an allied race
tropic trail
and them being recruited into the horde?
by sylvanas I think
at least thats what I've been told
uncut vault
There's a small group of them who are/were members of the horde, the only named leader we know of gets killed. There's hints at other blood princes/princesses, but nothing concrete
Only thing related to them post-Dreven is Brann picking up one of their crystals for further study and use
hollow dock
^
viscid bobcat
In one of the alliance story quests one of the NPCs said they could be a nice addition. Maybe later in the xpac they'll show more of them.
Either way, Seth'rak and Vulpera seem to be more likely
jovial carbon
All blood elves have golden eyes now, something about the Sunwell
uncut vault
Arator's a half elf, and a high elven one at that
jovial carbon
well, blood elf model
uncut vault
His old look didnt go away
jovial carbon
it is odd they didnt keep his eyes the old way
hollow dock
probably because the Sunwell isn't the only thing that changes elven eyes. Cuz ya know. High Elves eye colors change based on the magic they use/suckle.
uncut vault
My thing is more that they established that arator's got normal green eyes, and reiterated that in Three Sisters
I just really with belf/helf eyes werent so simplified
should separate eye glow from eye color
hollow dock
wish they'd decide on 1 color of eyes for Alleria.
tribal sand
beta realms down?
mint holly
I think so, I just got kicked off after about 15 minutes of very high lag
knotty pecan
yeah they are down atm
zealous basalt
Inb4 "thank you for testing"
terse patrol
please
limber mortar
Anyone have a spare beta key ❤️❤️
hollow dock
nope
dull iron
if some one has a spare beta key please give @limber mortar one first then give me one
mint holly
http://www.wowhead.com/news=284914/wowheads-battle-for-azeroth-beta-key-giveaway-week-3 patience grasshoppers, enter the giveaways and check your emails daily.. I got a beta invite directly from blizz
limber mortar
Congrats @mint holly
zealous basalt
Peps at beta
dull iron
?
dull iron
People are saying Blood Trolls now
I want the beta key so badly
how is so many people getting it
zealous basalt
Luck
dull iron
how do i get da luck
hollow dock
and then slay 100 more rats
hollow dock
and then you keep farming the rats for a currency that has a .5% chance of dropping
for 1,000 WoW bucks
zealous basalt
Probably not in the zone in your map
tropic trail
hy! anyone give me bfa beta key? pls 😃
terse patrol
Is the beta still down?
stiff vector
should be up according to my tools
meager warren
What if ur tools are wrong
mint arch
sullen dagger
dude did you just created an acc to ask for beta keys?
terse patrol
stiff vector
@meager warren then someone will surely correct me 😛
meager warren
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
limber mural
@sullen dagger he's been asking all day today
sullen dagger
who?
the betakey dude?
i guess it's another skittering scum trying to resell beta keys
zealous basalt
<@&299347348847329281>
barren latch
¯_(ツ)_/¯
sullen dagger
the tome makes it kinda obvious that they want them for nefarious purposes, tho
tone*
sullen dagger
ah right-o
dense plover
least you can do is block em
sullen dagger
^
tropic trail
what?
rotund sorrel
^
meager warren
Anyway, blood trolls as playable race? Aye or nay
And how likely are we to get them
meager warren
We used to slaughter zandalari and dark irons and one demon hunter
meager warren
But hey, they're fighting for us.
Redemption is possible
hollow dock
We slaughtered Zandalari, but Zul's Zandalari.
rich apex
Anything's -possible-
meager warren
CLOSE ENOUGH
hollow dock
We never actually 'killed' illidan. technically.
and the Dark Iron that we slaughtered were enslaved to Ragnaros.
ruby star
Blood Trolls could be cool as long as they are not alliance
nova hamlet
I don't know how they did it, but Enhance feels slower then Elemental... or at least you get a LOT more downtime as enhance then you use to 😦
ruby star
It would be kinda funny as it would destroy Ions statement/logic
hollow dock
you do as there's less haste to play around with Puru
meager warren
Ion is too rood to let us say "we told you so"
mint arch
what is love~
strange falcon
he specifically said they are not going to be playable,and i even have screenshots of that clip with subtitles
everyone just cut out the word "dont" from his sentence
and boom
blood trolls confirmed
there you go https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/419964105940795404/456163683609870337/1.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/419964105940795404/456163681756250112/2.png
enjoy
meager warren
"Don't be surprised if you don't see the opportunity"
Wat
So somehow we got the opp to play zanda but not blood trolls?
strange falcon
yup
also blood trolls are universally evil as of now,the alliance scouts sent to recruit them were slaughtered and sacrificed,the entire plot of the nazmir zone is that the blood trolls are the archenemies of the zandalari
you kill their leader(in the questline) and their god(in the raid)
they have no reason to even be considerable as playable
nova hamlet
@hollow dock Yes I know from multiple places its missing. I can't see it being enough even decked out in pure haste to be able to NOT have downtime at all, granted it doesn't always happen but there are periods of doing nothing waiting for your builder to come off CD which I don't think a large sum of haste will fix, I had decent haste given my gear and it was good long blocks of nothing
meager warren
Pffff
dense plover
it was probably a slip up
meager warren
We've done worse and we still have people who should hate us with us
hollow dock
It's a bit of we're missing teh haste to close up the GCD gaps and the missing Azerite stuff.
strange falcon
stop supporting the reskins,and start supporting actual new interesting and unique races
hollow dock
AS the start of every expac feels a bit slower than the end of the previous one
nova hamlet
I don't recall it being remotely as slow at the start of legion though with enhancement. I mean heck if your that low haste just pick the talent without a CD on your builder
Aka not rockbiter
errr Boulderfist*
ruby star
woudln't be surpised if horde ends up getting them after Ghunn dies then they "redeem" themselves for patch 8.2 or 8.3
so horde will have 3 trolls
meager warren
I bet, if alliance gets another draenei or dwarf or elf 9r gnome, horde could get brolls
strange falcon
the more we support reskins of existing race where they are lightforged draenei level of lazy reskin,blizz is going to think we like that more than unique races,and remember that the AR slots are LIMITED as far as we know,so we should take the better option out of what we get
hollow dock
just gotta make it about high elves huh Dafire :p
meager warren
And they said we wouldn't be getting nightborne but here we are
ruby star
@strange falcon Can you please fucking grow up? People are allowed to request allied races they want
strange falcon
just the response i wanted drorith
hollow dock
There is absolutely 0 proof tha tAR slots are limited
meager warren
Drorith is defending me. The world has really ended. Wr can all go home
hollow dock
Believe it or not Arson, we want people to get the races they want to play.
meager warren
But you want helf
hollow dock
Yup. We do.
nova hamlet
Its so silly the whole not doing High Elf thing. Specially when Pandas already counter the "Not wanting to confuse people" thing for the sides
hollow dock
void elves. Nightborne. Don't forget those exist Puru.
nah the AR issues only apply to them.
them being high elves
strange falcon
from an unbiased point of view,as a player i would rather have the allied race that has a lot of work put into it ,and is brand new and unique,rather than have the same thing we've had for 12 years but with the only difference being bodypaint
nova hamlet
Yeah, just saying Panda beings exactly the same thing on each side with no difference though which counters the 'looks similiar' argument pretty hard.
hollow dock
From a biased player who has played for 12 years and is told that ARs are supposed to be easy to slot in,
it seems to me that when they're willing to slot in reskins
mag'har, LF, Void Elves
Nightborne
Dark Iron
zealous basalt
Vris
hollow dock
heck Zandalari are reskins
hollow dock
heck even Kul tirans are reskins for half their race. So far
ruby star
Vris don't forget high mountain too
hollow dock
Highmountain as well!
strange falcon
they slot in reskins if they are relevant to the story,only darkiron are technically not super related to the story,and that's just because they were fan requested races for years,but all other allied races,have a somewhat relevance to legion and/or bfa
meager warren
The horns of HM Tauren are unique tho
hollow dock
Mag'har as well.
In which
they can write the story in any way they want
especially in future patches
ruby star
Technically High Elves are relevant to the story
faction conflict
High Elves fight for the Alliance
verbal badger
high elves are already in the game
ruby star
Yes just not playable @verbal badger
hollow dock
and yea when the sister of the Warchief is at war, High Elves are going to get tossed in eventually.
strange falcon
high dont even make a single appearance in bfa
verbal badger
they're called blood elves
hollow dock
heck,
verbal badger
how have so many people not played warcraft 3...
hollow dock
and they do Dafire. Several times.
ruby star
@strange falcon They do, theres a High Elf quest giver
hollow dock
Pleau, pls.
ruby star
and a isladn team member
meager warren
Pleau, i have a feeling you and ion would be good friends
hollow dock
ALl the high elves did not become blood elves.
verbal badger
there is no please for this one
verbal badger
they're literally the same race
strange falcon
look,we can discuss for days,and we will still not come to an agreement,because i will say they are not going to happen,and you will say "they're totally happening" and we'll keep going forever
nova hamlet
Then void Elfs are the same race
hollow dock
^
ruby star
Also just wanna add qucikly randomly but
hollow dock
Void elves are ACTUALLY the same race
verbal badger
i mean i'm not talking about is it going to happen
hollow dock
they're void tainted blood elves
verbal badger
i'm saying should it happen
verbal badger
same with the trolls and same with the orcs
hollow dock
Highmountain
meager warren
Yes. They are. But they're different
tropic trail
Thanks drorith!
ruby star
thats your opinion Pleau just because you don't like something, it doesn't mean others should have to suffer
hollow dock
clearly this argument doesnt work
verbal badger
well no it's just that
meager warren
Zandalari trolls are different from regular trolls
tropic trail
I was scared of a big shitshow coming up haha.
verbal badger
people like re-colours for some reason
hollow dock
I like it because these are allied races.
verbal badger
and that's what allied races are
hollow dock
RAces to expand on the customization
tropic trail
Like with vulpera and helves.
hollow dock
the immersion the feel
that's what they're supposed to be.
This is our chance after 14 years of playing this game to finally see high elves playable. Which has been requested since vanilla. D=
tropic trail
Anyone hyped for the WoW stuff at E3?
tropic trail
Prepatch date release hype?
meager warren
Blood trolls are not the same race as high elves
hollow dock
Im more hyped for news about BFA's future patches tbh
meager warren
But they look the same
tropic trail
Also can we stop debating about helves.
hollow dock
@strange falcon keeps forcing the topic back into the limelight
verbal badger
I mean I'm done with the topic
tropic trail
Ion confirmed they have/had no plan of adding them.
hollow dock
For the moment Tiny*
in which
High elves have always been on the table for addition
forest tartan
blood elves are high elves. also alot of sylvanas undead are high elves
verbal badger
you have to consider what for the moment means