i think its between zandalar an azsuna
#beta-ptr-spoilers
dense plover
theres the remnants of a possible island north of nazmir that was erased early on in development
not to mention the amount of naga in both nazmir and azsuna and how fast they got there
although tbh
there is one other possible location
dense plover
probably
better image
those are the two places i think it might be
if there is a naga raid, one of those areas is probably where it will be
sorry
lemme rephrase
when we get the naga raid
grizzled sleet
the left one is almost the same as here https://c-7npsfqifvt34x24e2v6q4m5x78qbz4lx2edmpvegspoux2eofu.g00.gamepedia.com/g00/3_c-7x78px78.hbnfqfejb.dpn_/c-7NPSFQIFVT34x24iuuqtx3ax2fx2fe2v6q4m5x78qbz4l.dmpvegspou.ofux2fx78px78qfejbx2fcx2fc4x2fHpcmjo_bsfb_tjuvbufe_po_uif_nbq.kqhx3fj21d.nbslx3djnbhf_$/$/$/$/$
dense plover
that maps not right tho
remember, how maelstrom was moved on world map to the left?
and kul tiras was moved
grizzled sleet
yeah xD
rich apex
something something times changes
feral shale
would be nice
dense plover
zandalar is a small island
pandaria is like 2/3 the size of kalimdor
it would ruin load times
each continent is an instance
its why you can move between zones without load screens
feral shale
wich one is bigger zandalar or kultiras?
dense plover
theyre about the same ingame and canonically
tropic trail
Someone here mentioned updates to Blackrock Mountain
Dungeon/Raid too or just the mountain?
dense plover
No, no updates
It’s the hub for the dark iron allied race
There might be changes tbh
We haven’t actually seen black rock depths as the hub in game
tropic trail
I mentioned the Dark Iron Dwarf background being a little outdated compared to the other Allied Races
and someone mentioned Blackrock Depths (the background) being updated next xpac
Unless their background is the hub
You're talking about the Grim Guzzler, right?
dense plover
What?
No
Dark iron dwarf recruitment scenario and intro for race is in black rock depths
It’s a version separate from the dungeon
It may or may not have updated graphics
Their background does not look outdated though
It’s very new
It’s just kind of different lighting
It looks different stylistically when compared to some of the others
But whether the actual graphics and environment is updated is a different story. If it is, it will only be for the scenario and hub, not the actual dungeon
It’s very likely the actual environment will be the same, but will have fancy new things like anvils and stuff around
tropic trail
hello
😃
It's old content mixed with new content
While Mag'Har orcs have new content because... well WoD
dense plover
i mean
its not exactly updated
most of it is actually what gorgrond was going to be in warlords alpha
so its actually just fixing some alpha textures using live ones
and then using stuff that was already done
and the hub is iron docks
which is not changing
tropic trail
Well a lot of Dark Iron Stuff is from Vanilla
While the Mag'Har orc stuff is from WoD
which is still sort of new
Also what are Allied Race hubs exactly?
And do Legion Allied races have hubs?
hollow dock
The hubs are basically cities.
LFD gets the vindicaar, VE gets Telongus rift, NB get instanced Suramar city-Nightwell area, HM get instanced version of the HM city.
Not sure what Mag'har get but the dark iron get an instanced version of Shadowforge City
tropic trail
So you can visit these hubs whenever you want, right?
Kind of like the class hubs in Legion?
hollow dock
Yes. But only for the allied races
hollow dock
No idea. I only know you get an instanced version of it.
dense plover
when you leave the embassy the portal is right in front and to the left
tropic trail
Thanks! I hope in the future they add some quest and what-not.
dense plover
nope
literally they arent supposed to be that
its just a little place to roleplay
they arent starting zones
tropic trail
Oh I know
dense plover
allied races are not supposed to be full races
viscid bobcat
hollow dock
I think he meant a quest to inform you about the portal Peach :p
tropic trail
I mean some quest like to unlock stuff rather than give xp
dense plover
unlock what stuff?
tropic trail
Could be anything really
Maybe a title if they want
Race specific title
since BFA is about race stuff instead of class stuff
hollow dock
Argent tourney styled titles would be nice.
dense plover
what zones?
zanddalar and kul tiras?
they arent dedicated to the race
the races are native to those zones
the zones have existed a long time
tropic trail
im too tired to debate on stuff like that, maybe save it for another day. Anyways, nice chat. Heading to bed now.
cinder knoll
@hollow dock I would like to see banner toy for allied races, I'm kind of missing that one
- city titles ofc
dusky ginkgo
Not true for everyone, the instanced Nighthold area is accessible no matter the race of the character you're playing
(And as long as you can fly)
Not sure for the Highmountain hub
uncut vault
it is too, it's the quest hub
Im betting maghar and dark iron will have race-only ones like velf and lightforged, and kul tirans and zandalari will have open world ones
terse patrol
@uncut vault I heard they might get exclusive access to Proudmoore Admiralty or something, and the Zandalari access to their own thing idk
I think they both get an interior area in the cities
uncut vault
they probably will but theyll still be open world
no reason why they need to be instanced when it can just be a kul tiran/zandalari only area in the keep/temple
sullen dagger
the point is:
undercity is conquered by alliance and teldrassil is conquered by horde
hollow dock
well.
sullen dagger
what if undercity is no more the starter for undeads, and teldrassil for elves, instead we got to play low levels undeads in teldrassil after sylvannas raise her kin there so we can play as undead elves or hunams
hollow dock
not really conquered
so much as torched and left there
That won't happen
pre-110 it's not phased
sullen dagger
no?
hollow dock
at 110+ it gets phased
sullen dagger
aw schucks
hollow dock
Nope
this is what they did with the blasted lands
and theramore
you need a specific trigger to phase the area.
Same with the Kor'kron in Barrens
at level 90 those become hostile
rather than neutral
Why?
the night elves have 0 lands within EK
and 0 reason to be there
their ancestral home is Ashenvale.
sullen dagger
yeah, and the zones near hyjal
hollow dock
that's all Ashenvale :p the forest that is Ashenvale stretches from like. the edges of Winterspring all the way to Feralas and the thousand needles.
that whole carved part of the contienent
sullen dagger
right
hollow dock
Uh
literally every druid ever
the last time they forced a world tree to grow it corrupted the land
which was Teldrassil
and they dont have aspects to cleanse/bless
sullen dagger
and they needed the blessings of aspects righty?
hollow dock
Yes to cleanse the corruption.
The whole reason darkshore looks the way it does and why teldrassil is such a mess is because it was grown without the blessing of the aspects
That's kinda the point of forcing nature to do your bidding Sudura
that's the lore. Dealwithit
Only trash cuz it doesn't fit your dream :p
only meant 'nothing' in the long run because we went and cleansed the NIghtmare
Im guessing you just never did the druid orderhall then
right
every class that isn't yours did nothing :p
sullen dagger
well, i did the rogue oh
they did nothing really
but still was a blast of fun
i think it was the one i most enjoyed
hollow dock
Well hey your interpretation is clearly better than the actual lore
Rogues had probably the most important of all the order halls tbh
sullen dagger
and i did the druid, dh, warrior, paladin, mage and some other
sullen dagger
but bt far the rogue was the best of all
hollow dock
We have to go knock some sense into him within the dream and when we kill Xavius, he's freed with all the other nightmare trapped spirits there
The invasions happens post-Emerald Nightmare so Cenarius is now up and directing druid forces within Val'sharah against the Legion and helps out in the Broken Shore. [source world quests]
sullen dagger
we cleanesed the iv7,. but thats it
sullen dagger
kek
frozen dust
So did Malfurion ever express remorse for being literally directly responsible for Ysera's death or did we just sorta roll right past that
hollow dock
yes he did when we free him in the dungeon
frozen dust
Righto
sullen dagger
ysera's death it's a huge setback for us
frozen dust
Haven't done DHT in a hot minute
hollow dock
it really isn't.
sullen dagger
why so?
frozen dust
I think it's actually been over a year lol
sullen dagger
it's one of the last aspects, apart of chromei, aint i right?
frozen dust
Being an aspect doesn't really mean anything post Cata
hollow dock
The five aspects were Neltharion (Deathwing), Malygos, Alexstrasza, Nozdormu, and Ysera.
In cataclysm, Malygos is replaced with Kalec and all the aspects, along with their dragonflights, sacrifice their titan strength to kill deathwing
So now they're just normal dragons slowly dying out as they can't breed.
sullen dagger
huh
hollow dock
The remaining aspects only really have the honorary title. It doesn't mean much now.
sullen dagger
i didnt played cata, so i guess i missed that
zealous basalt
He disbanded the flight
hollow dock
they just all fucked off
sullen dagger
oh well
hollow dock
some decided to stay at the Nexus Vault
and guard it. Most just left. doing whatever they wanted
The reds rebuilt Wyrmrest temple and the Sanctums.
sullen dagger
yep so ysera was an oldie
zealous basalt
Meh, just hope Blizz does something good with them instead of killing them
sullen dagger
no biggie there
hollow dock
There's nothing to really do with them.
Outside of zones like Azsuna where you just help out a brood of them
One of the last broods of them.
zealous basalt
Still, why place them on a death toll instead of idk, just letting them be
zealous basalt
Is blizzard goinf to kill everything that isnt is usable for them?
frozen dust
Same reason Krypton's now been blown up four different ways: when you have fifteen years' worth of writing teams, they're gonna want to go dig up stuff they want to play with
hollow dock
Nozdormu has to die.
zealous basalt
Besides having her flight almost annihilated
hollow dock
cuz he turns into Murozond and we kill him in the dungeon
zealous basalt
Yee Sax
hollow dock
her flights mostly in tact since cataclysm though. O.o
you even see the Ruby Sanctum is absolutely full of dragons and eggs. Last of her brood.
unless you're a dk that decided to slay em all
zealous basalt
But you know, Blizzard shouldnt be changing teams and rewriting stuff they already did in the lit past xpac
frozen dust
👀 -The Deathlord's reaction
hollow dock
they dont change teams as far as I know
they add people into it, but don't really change them like comics do
zealous basalt
Bfa's team didnt do Legion but did WoD
So I'm a little afraid of what they are going to do
hollow dock
WoD was fine until the whole
"1 legion" thing
THEn it became all convoluted as fuck
zealous basalt
WoD wasn't fine, let's admit it
hollow dock
It really was.
It's an alternate timeline. Garrosh used a bronze dragon to get there. Connected our timelines together through the dark portal
zealous basalt
It was an incomplete game with a lot of cut content that could have given us more content
zealous basalt
But no
hollow dock
That has nothing to do with the writers LOL
frozen dust
I didn't start playing until Legion and only doing the story stuff made it seem okay
hollow dock
1 big content patch which was 6.2
frozen dust
I'm a bit annoyed with what they're doing with Yrel but all cards on the table I don't plan on making a brown orc anyway so that shit doesn't affect me
Yet
hollow dock
BUt here's the thing
people keep tossing Yrel under the bus for no fuckin reason
because she's not out causing a genocide.
zealous basalt
What made Yrel to do that
hollow dock
the Lightbound are
hollow dock
Want to have the full unabridged story Mak?
hollow dock
Alright so what we know is this so far from datamined text:
frozen dust
Yrel: I'm sorry it has to come to this old friend :(
Hellscream: NEVER BE SLAVES REEEEEEE
The orcs deserve it anyway
hollow dock
A naaru landed on Draenor. We don't know when, but we believe it's a prime and is the AU version of Xe'ra essentially. No legion means she's free in all other timelines so it makes sense.
The Lightforged are made and Yrel leads them. The peace between orcs and Draenei exchange practices like Priesthood. Yrel asks orcs to convert over to the Light entirely and thus makes the Lightbound, a faction of orcs that begun as those that would convert willingly. Later on we know the Lightbound attack FFR and kill Durotan. Whether or not Yrel condemned the action or ordered it, we do not know.
Yrel approaches with her Lightbound and Lightforged and ask Grom to join them one last time before she says they'll do it Grom's way.
Grom gets killed as the Mag'har escape.
The Lightbound have, again assumed from the datamined text, started to essentially act like our timelines Fel Orcs. Forcibly converting or killing whatever is in their path.
zealous basalt
Ohh
If what you say about she being the AU version of Xe'ra is correct, that is the answer I'm looking for
hollow dock
along with Velen's final words to her before he comes a naaru
zealous basalt
I knew that Naaru was going to cause problems since the beginning
hollow dock
people also look to those for some more added help. since they can be taken as any which way you want.
frozen dust
So the whole thing could be the Lightbound have gotten out of control but she's hesitant to stop it because "Well I guess this is what the Naaru wanted even if it kinda sucks"
That makes sense
hollow dock
Yea.
frozen dust
I like that
hollow dock
But again, it could very well be that Yrel is just a genocidal maniac of the Light now, but it could also just be that she can't always control the Lightbound
they are orcs
and orcs are savages :p
frozen dust
I mean, if she suddenly remembered "Oh right you guys killed a lot of my friends and family"
I couldn't blame her that much
hollow dock
Well there is a reason I don't think that really plays into it much.
She calls Grom an old friend and apologizes.
So to me, that means that she is not really that happy to do this
frozen dust
Right
hollow dock
Though I do love that both sides think the other is destroying Draenor.
zealous basalt
Probs she doesnt want to but must do the Naaru's judment because well, draenei and Naaru
hollow dock
ye
zealous basalt
She never got told like us that Naaru can be "darky"
hollow dock
that they can be overly zealous :p
zealous basalt
Like Velen told us in Mac'Aree
Me thinks that if AU Velen was alive, he would have given her some advice
frozen dust
Yeah
I could buy a lot of it being just the pressure on her because she has to follow up the Prophet
So when something she perceived as being more able than her showed up she went "Oh thank fuck"
frozen dust
Yrel did nothing wrong
zealous basalt
See? That is a good storyline we could do
strange falcon
inb4 morally grey character
frozen dust
And I'm going to level her straight to 10 when she comes out in HotS next week
zealous basalt
Yrel was always like...
zealous basalt
Ourselves when we have some high pressure
hollow dock
Yrel's jealous of us even that we went to Argus =D
frozen dust
Her voice lines are SO GODDAMN GOOD
hollow dock
Her thighs can crush skulls*
strange falcon
because they're in a different engine?,i'm not a tech guy,or maybe too high resolution?
hollow dock
Well
zealous basalt
Look at the wow girls
frozen dust
The same thing that used to be up with them and midriffs
hollow dock
Like in comparison to her body
As the original Draenei were modeled to be more like the Tieflings
zealous basalt
I personally dont want a tail slap
hollow dock
in D&D
and since it was put into BC, the hardware just wasn't there to properly envision it
also probably dodging a lawsuit from WOTC
zealous basalt
Gdi blizz
strange falcon
do lightforged have long tails?
frozen dust
"Nah these things are way too specific"
"Anyway let's go sue Valve over their Skeleton King character"
hollow dock
nah. they use a modified draenei model
strange falcon
i wonder when will blizz enable all of these hidden customization options for players,like the draenei long tail
because it's been there since tbc
it's never been taken out
hollow dock
So was Dark Iron skin for dwarves
and the high elf customizations for belves
certain things aren't meant for us players sadly. =/
frozen dust
Vulpera when
strange falcon
the only alternative to sneeple paired with vulpera
is an asspull
there's not really any other logic candidate
zealous basalt
Tortles
hollow dock
tortles wouldn't fit
zealous basalt
O
strange falcon
tortles are being built up as being the "kirin tor" of bfa
zealous basalt
Furries vs scalies
hollow dock
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees~
zealous basalt
Vulpera
terse patrol
someone asked “whats up with blizzard and thighs”
frozen dust
The true Battle for Azeroth
zealous basalt
You mean
terse patrol
Should be self explanatory.
zealous basalt
Furry elves
strange falcon
hollow dock
Nope
never will Dafire
as long as there's hope
even 1%
I will never stop championing the cause!
strange falcon
have you read the newest comic?
hollow dock
DEUS VULT DEUS VULT DEUS VULT
terse patrol
thigh highs pls
strange falcon
the sylvanas comeback about blood elves tho
hollow dock
Sylvie is still a monster
strange falcon
👌
hollow dock
We dont want blood elves.
terse patrol
but thats my job
strange falcon
the faceapp meme is canon now
hollow dock
Cmon now. Have you not seen blizzard constantly running addons into the ground by adding them to the game baseline?
hollow dock
^
strange falcon
magni reeee is more like "nothing good ever happens" and sylvanas ree is more like "wtf is this shit" rage,so that's better
terse patrol
Baby Moira is way too cute tho
terse patrol
not precisely
He just knows he needs to be there for Azeroth, unlike how he wasnt there for Moira
hollow dock
IMO, he sees Azeroth as his second chance
terse patrol
He’s Azeroth’s dad now.
zealous basalt
He doesnt want Azeroth to have a bad mean boyfriend
terse patrol
thaurissan wasnt bad tho
zealous basalt
Hail to the king baby
terse patrol
magni did underhanded shit too
hollow dock
he wasn't! Taurissan was an actual dad to Moira
terse patrol
the Dark Irons and the Bronzebeards were more alike than they believed
Just one side was enslaved to Ragnaros
Thaurissan wanted to free his people, but was killed before then
zealous basalt
I wonder if the Defias felt bad for Varian's waifu
frozen dust
Ragnaros was pretty bad but he never dragged Moira into the middle of Ironforge with the express intent of publicly executing her
terse patrol
They did
frozen dust
Varian went through a few phases didn't he
terse patrol
Tiffin was the only one trying to help the Stonemasons
zealous basalt
I read that she was really kind with the stonemasons
terse patrol
Van Cleef wasn’t evil, and was helpless to Onyxia’s corruption of his organization
zealous basalt
So Onyxia was there when it happened?
Idk if Varian was king or he was a slave when that happened
terse patrol
Onyxia effectively ruled Stormwind after Tiffin died.
She’s also likely why the Forsaken diplomats never returned to Lordaeron.
ruby star
How do I unlock the Island tutorial Quest? I am level 116
frozen dust
I was like one of the undead
"My jaw kept falling off, it was really weird"
zealous basalt
Lol
sullen dagger
MANGI IS BASED DAD
frozen dust
I was pretty lukewarm on dark iron dwarves until Wowhead did their storytime thing on Moira and now I'm fuckin hyped to make a shaman
strange falcon
you never questioned why moira was in the last boss room in blackrock depths?
frozen dust
No, I knew why she was there
I had just never gotten the full backstory
IE, Thaurissan and his people actually being pretty chill and respectful to her
strange falcon
if they werent nice to her,why would she have been hostile to players when u got there
🤔
frozen dust
Because I took the mind control thing at face value and didn't care to read into what an NPC had to say whenever I last ran it however long ago it was
Almost like I'm more interested in lore when I purposely seek it out as opposed to mindlessly leveling
stiff vector
Did they fix the AoE exploit/bug on beta yet?
stiff vector
It wasn't
hollow dock
that's what WoWhead reported.
stiff vector
WoWHead is bad at reporting then I guess! Server tech I talked to mentioned it wasn't intended at all for spells to take that long
hollow dock
Maybe then it's good that Blizzard found that bug while they stress tested? O.o it seems silly to me that a player somehow found a way to make that bug happen and no ones been able to replicate it
stiff vector
People obviously were able to replicate it to some extent
hollow dock
in which why would it start in Zandalar, end, and start again in Borealus? If they fixed it in Zandalar and ended it, wouldn't that stop it from appearing everywhere else?
stiff vector
Could just be some player purposely dropping it in there because he's a dick
Most people aren't
Looks like yesterday's restart might have fixed it, neato
sullen dagger
(x) doubt
stiff vector
That most people aren't dicks? Yeah, fair enough. 😄
tropic trail
I dont think the HM portal is instanced
just died to a max level
Nevermind the HM Protector killed me... for some reason?
misty blaze
as long as jaina or any of the windrunners sisters dont die im all fine they my waifus 😃
tropic trail
When will the next build go live?
ruby star
later tonight
sour burrow
New build, horray~ *Gets his pickaxe*
drifting current
I’d love to see the login screen
I’m that asshole who gets excited about everything in a build for one reason or another
hollow dock
As in they come back up?
waxen obsidian
yes
i worded my sentence so badly haha
i got my beta access yesterday so idk where can i check these things
hollow dock
No one really knows.
waxen obsidian
ou okay
waxen obsidian
how long is it usually ? are we talking hours or minutes 😛
there was a restart yesterday it took like 5 mins
tropic trail
What's the next random animal we didn't realize we needed, but we did need it for years?
Find out in the next episode of BETA DATAMINING!
dense plover
This isn’t a restart
It’s a new build
Expect it to be down at least an hour or two
ruby star
^
dense plover
Could take 4 or 5 depending on when they deploy the build and how long that takes serverside
tropic trail
I can wait...
dense plover
This may be a music build
In which case it will be a large download
Small download means less or no music
So if you get like 7 or 10 gb, that’s good news
stiff vector
It won't be 7-10 GB for just music
dense plover
It won’t?
stiff vector
No, music isn't that large.
dense plover
What size would a music build be?
stiff vector
Depends on what else comes with it
dense plover
I mean, the normal builds we’ve been getting are between 700mb and 1.8gb
waxen obsidian
thanks for info :>
dense plover
So I imagine it would be larger than the normal builds right?
stiff vector
Not for WoW it can't be @agile token
stiff vector
Lets say each music file is 2MB which is generous considering the ones currently in-game
There's no way they're adding 7-10GB of 2MB tracks 😄
dense plover
Hmm, so like 300 x 2mb = 600mb, so that’s not a lot
But we also might get login screen
Although I don’t th8nk that’s a huge file either
stiff vector
Even if it's 5MB per track for 300 tracks that'd still only be 1.5GB for just new music
Login screen is tiny, few MB maybe.
We won't really know if it is a music build based on size
We've had huge builds that were just file format updates
stiff vector
Also for more stats, Legion has a total of 389 MP3s for all of the expansion of which about a 100 are post 7.0
So with the current amount of mp3 references that are still unshipped we're looking at a lot still
dense plover
But there are like 300 mp3 placeholders currently
stiff vector
No placeholders, just references
dense plover
And there are more zones for this expac
stiff vector
375 to be exact
dense plover
We have 6 zones
stiff vector
They actually took out the only music they shipped a few builds ago as well so we now have nothing really 😦
dense plover
Dungeons that will need unique music because they don’t match other locales like the MOTHERLODE
And don’t forget we have a warfront that needs music
And music for dark iron and Maghar maybe
stiff vector
Sure, but still far off 7GB 😄
dense plover
Yeah I goofed on that
stiff vector
Patches of that size are either file format updates or rebases
And we're due for a rebase soon with pre-patch I hope so that should be good
dense plover
This expac will definitely have a lot more music than legion at launch tho
stiff vector
Yeah definitely
dense plover
It’s exciting
I’ve finally started to get sick of the legion music
Except for the high mountain one
I love that one
tropic trail
I love the Stormheim music as well.
neat idol
I guess Im the only one who doesnt like to play with music :v
ionic terrace
Did someone say server shutdown? 
dense plover
I’m equally excited to hear more of this though: https://youtu.be/K7Hw8QEGnno
agile token
@neat idol why tho
hollow dock
music can be annoying and when you listen to your own music it can get pretty sucky
agile token
Then turn off your own music xP
hollow dock
why? it's blizzards music that's the problem
agile token
In what situation?
hollow dock
when Im listening to my own music
ruby star
update out? I haven;t got it yet
dense plover
restart the launcher if it isnt there
ionic terrace
sour burrow
b.26788
ruby star
Yeah restarted launcher and its here!
ionic terrace
Noooo
grizzled sleet
2.2 GB Build
terse patrol
A build dropped?
grizzled sleet
yes
dense plover
2.32gb
ruby star
shame serevers are down
grizzled sleet
no login screen too
dense plover
yeah they went up with a new build before it went out to the client
neat idol
💔
grizzled sleet
neat idol
Do we know anything about this build?
dense plover
dont post each thing
its not big
those are mount tokens
the mount models and mounts already exist
dense plover
lots of mount tokens are missing
dense plover
uhhhh
neat idol
Shrine of the Storm?
dense plover
^
ruby star
htanks
grizzled sleet
hype for classe changes
neat idol
I hope for some changes for the Nether Portal of Demo Lock
neat idol
I´ve tried it several times but never felt good enough
neat idol
Dont know, its like every time I use it, cant summon more than 3 or 4 demons
dense plover
yeah
because youre not supposed to
its supposed to summon between 4-6 demons depending on when you use it and what you do with it
thats a lot
neat idol
Never enough(?
dense plover
and with the changes to implosion, you can get shards faster
so its possible to get more
ive seen demo warlocks with like 20 demons during boss fights
its cool as hell
neat idol
Well, on hc dungs bosses dont last long enight to use it at pull with out some demonic core stacks
On this last builds?
dense plover
you can get demonic core from implosion though
neat idol
Before it summoned a demon per soulshard spent
dense plover
just take the passive imp talent
neat idol
Inner demons?
sharp bluff
yep
still no boomkin form though
KT is looking like the way to go for druid though
grizzled sleet
I want that flight form
dense plover
theyre both pretty great
dapper cosmos
Creepy wicker skeleton creature > Dinos
silk sable
looks like my plans of going outlaw rogue for bfa got crushed by kultiran druids
dense plover
wrong
neat idol
Its kind of weird that Cat form of zandalari are tank lizards for hunters
grizzled sleet
@silk sable why not both?
dense plover
so its not exactly relevant tbh
silk sable
tru
sharp bluff
they both look amazing, but I play necromancer in most games, to me it is winning atm
neat idol
Kultiran Boomkin form may be some kind of those skeleton humanoids maybe
sharp bluff
has to flap
neat idol
And on BfA you wont be able to change pet spec
sharp bluff
KT boomkin has to flap, so idk
neat idol
Each family will have a preset spec
dense plover
i thought each pet family got abilities
not spec specific
but family specific
if they are changing that, im cool
neat idol
I dont know what class level up for alter
dense plover
but also, none of the new pets have that stuff set up correctly yet
its one of the last things they do
dense plover
enhancement shaman is solid
fire mage is good
arcane is sad now
i liked legion arrcane
hollow dock
Raven with Wicker =D
neat idol
I never learned Legion Arcane
dense plover
its a ramp up
neat idol
But tried this one and seemed more friendly
neat idol
Also, I think Arcane or Dpriest are not spec for alters
tbh
I liked arcane for ST but AoE I hate it
dense plover
its never been an aoe spec
neat idol
Should try spriest maybe, but never were too fan of it
dense plover
arcane is a singletarget burst spec
neat idol
That makes sense
dense plover
fire and frost are better geared toward aoe
near cosmos
you can build for good aoe as arcane, from what I gather from Bay's vid
also arcane is purdy
ruby star
Tom CHilton is on the Credits xD poor Ion
grizzled sleet
Frost changes won't be complete in this build I think
ruby star
Did they put the wrong Credits in?
sour burrow
"[MODIFIED] interface/worldmap/karazhan/karazhan14_1.blp" I know modified doesn't often mean much but this is still strange.
neat idol
But running out of options
sour burrow
Darkshore obviously got some tweaks.
ruby star
probbaly Khadgar telling us to fuck off @sour burrow
sour burrow
Netherstorm (9) / Tempest Keep (3/4) also got edits. These are the only 'out of place' things.
near cosmos
first week everyone should play a druid with herb/ench anyway for that sweet cash money :P
herbing in travel form ftw
grizzled sleet
first 3 weeks*
sour burrow
[MODIFIED] item/objectcomponents/waist/buckle_armor_waistoftime_d_01.m2
grizzled sleet
GDAPI_REALMTYPE_NORMAL - PvE Normal
GDAPI_REALMTYPE_RP - RP Roleplaying
New realmtypes
Normal and Roleplaying
sour burrow
How does one do character copy these days?
dense plover
Additionally, today is the day you've all been waiting for. . . character copy will be enabled! Please note that under load, the character copy system could fail to create at times due to volume of requests. If things seem slow, take a deep breath, wait a bit and try again later.
CHAR COPY BOIS
uncut jetty
sour burrow
The whole thing except... ah it's a button o nthe login screen.
dense plover
GDAPI_REALMTYPE_NORMAL - PvE Normal
GDAPI_REALMTYPE_RP - RP Roleplaying
PvE -> normal
RP -> roleplaying
two realm types now
neat idol
Whats the fun of RP?
grizzled sleet
I was right
near cosmos
@neat idol goldshire inn 😏
terse patrol
New Blood Knight mount, maybe
near cosmos
wot
sharp bluff
Battle for Azeroth Beta - Character Copy Now Available
Arvaanas just tweeted that character copies are now enabled on beta!
@dense plover yep^
your right
near cosmos
goldshire inn is a tavern in Elwynn Forest, and is commonly known on RP realms for ERP
sour burrow
Heavy Silithus Phase 01 edits.
hallow hollow
Plenty of Roleplayers also do PVE, PVP, and whatever else there is to do in WoW :)
grizzled sleet
Sometimes I RP on a non-rp realm because I feel like doing it
rich apex
I don't understand how people play WoW full time if they don't RP >_>
Like that six month content drought
What do you do
sour burrow
"This artifact's power was sacrificed to draw out the darkness from the sword of Sargeras and stabilize Azeroth's wounds."
sharp bluff
stabilize, not heal, very important
near cosmos
slut it up in goldshire is the only reasonable way of spending those 6 months
grizzled sleet
@sour burrow No! After all we have endured... It must not end this way!
hollow dock
@rich apex I end up just grinding old expac stuff I missed or passed on when it was current
hollow dock
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
rich apex
Bahaha
grizzled sleet
It may be a bug
hollow dock
Please let that be a bug
Either let it be a bug or give us the cinematic where we give the POWER OF FISH TO HELP STABALIZE AZEROTH DAMN IT
dense plover
grizzled sleet
dense plover
grizzled sleet
tranquil steeple
Finally, I guess?
grizzled sleet
Looks like this is the 400 mounts achiev
tranquil steeple
IIRC people have talked a lot about that mount and how it's been unused for so long; WELL NO LONGER
hollow dock
there's still plenty more unused mounts in game
tranquil steeple
No doubt, this is just one I've actually heard about before. (Not a mount collector, besides ones I personally want 'cause I like 'em)
grizzled sleet
Legion of Super-Heroes
http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/742289.jpg
dense plover
oh man
all of the vo is in for the siege
it feels a lot more finished
also i think i know why saurfang is so pissed
its not the blight
sylvanas plans to blow the undercity sky high
they added goblins setting up bombs in the underground part
sharp bluff
Oh so they are hers? Not the tubby prince?
sharp bluff
She is worried about light zombie chick
dense plover
my guess is that is part of the final cutscene
sharp bluff
Is blight flammable?
ruby star
anyone else characters vanished?
dense plover
dying world quest updated
sharp bluff
You can copy them now Drorith
dense plover
now gives you an (optional) take portal to uldum to get closer quest step
ruby star
dw my charaters returned
dense plover
rich apex
I mean
Sylvie is pretty prepared with all that blight and explosive
And with an Alliance army, led by Anduin and Genn and Jaina, conveniently lured into the city
Seems clear she never meant to hold the city
And thus Saurfang doesn't appreciate Horde warriors dying just to be bait
dense plover
btw, leggos are from ilvl 1000 -> ilvl 265
rich apex
(even if they were also dying to buy time for civilians to evacuate)
dense plover
so theyll be gone around level 115 or 116
abilkities turn off at 115 - its in the tooltip
tweaks to heart area entrance in silithus
ruby star
All teh Island Alliance teams have vanished
hollow dock
Did the horde have any island teams visible?
ruby star
not sure , have not checked horde as didn;t bother starting one yet
grizzled sleet
any class changes for SV or frost DK?
dense plover
yes horde had island teams
grizzled sleet
yea but are they in this build?
dense plover
theyre probably just missing temporarily
hollow dock
Clearly they aren't mim as they made up the article out of thin air :p
Eyyyyyyyyyyy Sindragosa is now a talent
HRW is now baseline
Huh Pillar of Frost is no longer baseline
it's now a talent that gives the 20% buff and the effects of Obliteration. or it's just been removd entirely and Obliteration is just now renamed Pillar of Frost. not entirely clear on that
oh nvm
PoF's effect isjust flat gone
oak wraith
Those goblins were in before, when you told them "evacuate" they just grinned and went on doing their bomb things.
sour burrow
BFA's 'button' eh. :P
worn quarry
can confirm the goblins have been there for at least a month
ruby star
Um if you fly to shrine of the storm, it says you can't breath
and you get teleported away
dense plover
worgen cutscene during stormwind stockade scenario is in
grizzled sleet
oh 😮
oak wraith
Hm, any news on the pre-scenarios? Teldrassil doesn't seem to be burning (yet)
dense plover
thalyssra puts up bubble
most of teldrassil alliance stuff is in
nothing for horde yet
dense plover
yeah it goes away once you start siege
grizzled sleet
Artifact appearances are not account bound, may be a bug too
oak wraith
Ah, alright.
languid yoke
ow the last bit of genn voiceover :(
dense plover
breaking ice during stockades has changed
big rezan doesnt show up anymore
instead its a paladin bubble bufff
oak wraith
Hm, did Lone Wolf change to just a passive, where dismissing your pet activates it? (MM hunter)
tranquil steeple
iirc they changed it so the damage buff is only active while you have no pet, but lets you summon a pet, at the cost of losing the damage buff until dismissed
grizzled sleet
and they said the damage % is just placeholder, it was 18% I think
tranquil steeple
as it is on live
grizzled sleet
is it always 18% on beta now?
grizzled sleet
So it's 10% now cool
oak wraith
And there is no talent for it.
tranquil steeple
on live it's 18% more damage dealt, and disables use of Summon Pet, and as Gilthy shows; on beta it's 10% but lets you summon a pet, at the cost of losing the damage buff
oak wraith
nodnod
grizzled sleet
yea it's no longer a talent, if you use the pet the 10% buff disappear
zealous basalt
So i have a question
tranquil steeple
go on
zealous basalt
How do you get beta, is 100% a random thing?
tranquil steeple
luck. lots and lots of it, either through giveaways, or random waves from blizzard
tranquil steeple
nowadays blizzard is done doing random waves
grizzled sleet
start streaming wow, you will get invited for next expac alpha / beta
tranquil steeple
and it's down to giveaways
zealous basalt
well, one of my friend (someone that doesn't play alot) just got beta and well...feelin bad man
ruby star
Enter giveaways or hope you get given it by blizz is your best bet
zealous basalt
owell, i just got into the wowhead giveaway so, im just hoping
grizzled sleet
Hope is not lost, @zealous basalt The spark of life still flickers within these giveaways.
grizzled sleet
blissful jungle
I just found a really weird bug...my professions got changed to a cap of 100 and I "unlearned" them without them actually being removed. So I can train engineering again, for example, but I can't because it won't let me purchase it because it still sees me as having 2 professions already.
I reported it but it's still weird
tranquil steeple
may be rough to say, but do you still have everything you had before they "unlearned" themselves, Tyravari?
tranquil steeple
'cause if so no real damage was done, atleast
dense plover
zandalari emmisary is now in the bank area in the great seal - the royal treasury
tranquil steeple
ah yeah it's just showing 100, since wod skill is 700, and legion is 800
so difference is 100
dense plover
yeah its a bit bugged
you cant learn them but it says you are max level in them
itll be fixed before launch
blissful jungle
I still have all my recipes and everything. I think it's just a bug with the character copy and how the professions are currently coded for new beta characters
dense plover
^
grizzled sleet
try with the engineering npc on stormwind, because all recipes are being separated by expansions
blissful jungle
I'll try that before I try dropping and relearning them
grizzled sleet
zealous basalt
I just hope to have a first time beta
I don't get how people can have all dem betas
meager warren
it's mostly luck i think
dense plover
i got beta somehow
im pretty sure its because i reported lots of stuff in legion beta
and gave actual feedback about leveling during 7.3.5 ptr
blissful jungle
The SW eng trainer has all the stuff, but for some reason i could train cata engineering...while the initial train engineering thing is available. It's bugged to hell lmao.
dense plover
itll be fixed
blissful jungle
Oh I know.
I'm just expecting an in work beta to be 100% perfect and bug free
/s
dense plover
we still dont have a zuldazar or boralus hearthstone do we
grizzled sleet
I don't think we will get them
oak wraith
I've also signed up on the Blizz site early and often, there's an option there to say you're interested in testing. And I've actually done (or tried to do) sensible reports for all the beta's and stuff I've been in. Not a huge amount though.
grizzled sleet
the ingineering bracers enchant apply to "hearthstone" when used on kultiras and zandalar, so we have use the normal hearthstone
zealous basalt
I have been signed there since I brought cata
oak wraith
nods probably also a bit of luck, I guess.
zealous basalt
PC specs do help?
oak wraith
No idea... I'd guess not, if I was testing something like WoW I'd want a range of PC specs.
I do have a permanent PTR installed. And poke it from time to time (not that often, I hardly get around to playing live at the moment)
blissful jungle
1000 ilevel squashes to 265 ilevel. Interesting
prime kestrel
the motivation xD
blissful jungle
I need to go buy that AH mount with the free beta gold
floral gyro
grizzled sleet
zealous basalt
whats up with these avatar elves
dense plover
the bank in zuldazar works
terse patrol
It's Blizzard returning to their Vanilla/WC3 roots.
unique harbor
yes
zealous basalt
I think...Blizzard has already left that point where he ca return
grizzled sleet
Wake me up when class changes are up on wowhead
violet sphinx
so happy to see the mailbox to the inn in the right place now
uncut vault
Oh did they do updates to Zuldazar?
dense plover
artifact transmogs are definitely working
uncut vault
I hope they’re moving some of the essentials up into the temple
dense plover
all of the ones i unlocked for my brewmaster are in my collection
small bits
what essentials?
everything is either at the top or at the base
its not too hard to navigate
especially if you get paku as your loa
waxen obsidian
did anyone checked if you can tmog a shaman with 2 doomhammers or smtg like that ?
plus im getting an infite loading screen on my copied char that logged out in the old dalaran FeelsBadMan
waxen obsidian
cool
dense plover
or other element
its cool
wardruid loti has vo now
@uncut vault what did you mean about moving the essentials?
waxen obsidian
everything important is near the inkeeper really, dummies are lower but thats it
maybe few proffesion trainers from what i remember