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rich apex May 28, 2018, 6:16 PM

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new Allied Races?

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That'll cost a raid tier, clearly

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khadgarface

mint arch May 28, 2018, 6:16 PM

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lul

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 6:23 PM

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I mean.

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by that logic Dark

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They weren't showing any indication of adding sanlayn as an allied race regardless of Dreven being alive or nt

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not*

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:28 PM

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iincoming xp explot for farming 😃 then in bfa

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step 1 get 20 ppl on horde and 20 on allaince.

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step 2 get naked

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step 3 have 1 player stab 6 ppl so he gets assain status

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step 4 have the opposing side kill him using 1 spell

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step 5 azerite xp rep

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step 6 repeate till max

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step xxx laugh at silly pointless ness of wpvp

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 6:35 PM

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wpvp is always pointless

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and be honest, if you thought of this exploit don't you think that blizzard has as well?

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:36 PM

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oh i dint think of it

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and tbh no i really dont think bliz have thought it though

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 6:36 PM

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well since you put it here with several blizz employees that pass over the chats

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they do now. c:

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:37 PM

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becasue this type of faction expolit takes place in FAR more complicated policed games with faction vs faction systems

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bounty systems baicaly dont work

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they tried it in eveonline and it was very very 1 exploitable 2 silly

wild pewter May 28, 2018, 6:45 PM

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Are there anymore of those Turalyon/Liadrin screenshots but with different leaders?

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:46 PM

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good luck getting all those people to agree and then end up in the same shard

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:47 PM

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raids are a thing

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and with 40 ppl you could do it as a guild

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:47 PM

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okay

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and getting the opposite faction to agree?

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:47 PM

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someone gets world first but everyone is lvl 120 at end of day with 100 azerite for 5 hours work 😃

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:47 PM

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100 azerite is literally nothing

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:47 PM

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simple have ppl roll horde/allaince chariters

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:48 PM

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yeah

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:48 PM

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i think you missed step 6

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:48 PM

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but how do you get the two groups on the same shard?

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:48 PM

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well u tend to have ppl on same realm end up togther 😃

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:48 PM

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not when in raid groups

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:48 PM

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party then

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:48 PM

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also you dont get azerite until max level

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:48 PM

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just 4 party groups 😃

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:48 PM

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parties dont either

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:49 PM

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and it also tends to group playes of same guild togther

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:49 PM

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sharding doesnt work that way

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:49 PM

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for "immerison"

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:49 PM

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on one faction

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but you wont get both factions in the same place

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the game specifically doesnt allow it

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:49 PM

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do it out side of a city then

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:49 PM

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you wont get 2 parties of each with the same purpose in the same shard

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:49 PM

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which dose try to put you on same realm

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for the "for the horde/allaince" achiments

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:50 PM

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you wont get close enough

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city npcs have their level increased

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:50 PM

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plenty of places inside stormwind/orgimar where npcs dont attack you

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:50 PM

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and the area outside cities doesnt try to shard you

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only the actual city zone

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lol, good luck getting there alive

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also dont forget that after dying there is a dishonorable kill buff

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im pretty sure it eventually starts to increase following many deaths

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your method wont work

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the amount of time it will take to do what you want will be slower than doing world quests and some wpvp as normal

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:52 PM

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debuff is 2min isnt it?

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:52 PM

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again, pretty sure it increases following consecutive deaths

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and yeah

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2 min per person

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itll be slow af

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:53 PM

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and how did the "wait 10min till you can ask the doomsayer again" ?

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:53 PM

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again, world quests give several hundred azerite

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doing wqs will be faster

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:53 PM

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you never played rugby have u?

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:53 PM

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what does that have to do with anything?

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:54 PM

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cause then you would know something about stragagey and team games

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:54 PM

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lol

strange falcon May 28, 2018, 6:54 PM

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are you seriously discussing doing that supposed "exploit" it's 99% going to be much more of a waste of time than an efficient way to level

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:54 PM

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there are other team sports

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and again

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that doesnt change azerite being a faster source from wqs

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:55 PM

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well if all 20ppl get azerite from killing 1 person every min

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:55 PM

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same with actual quests

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:55 PM

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yeah it kinda will 😃

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:55 PM

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they give way more than the pvp bonus

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you dont get azerite per person

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:55 PM

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i use fishing raids as my exaple

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:55 PM

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you get it when killing an assassin

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which requires 5 kills

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so 1 party of alliance players can give 1 horde player the assassin buff

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:56 PM

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yes but howmany ppl get rewarded for killing an assain?

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:56 PM

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which can then earn 1 alliance player some stuff

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1

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the one who gets the killing blow

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:56 PM

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now have you tested that?

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:56 PM

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so literally you lose rewards

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yes

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i have

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1 person gets the rewards

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:56 PM

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well then 1 person gets world first 😃

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and enjoy the rolf situation

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:56 PM

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im still unsure if its whoever does the most damage or whoever gets the killing blow

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but its only 1 person

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it wont be a fast way to level

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because you dont get xp from kills

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:57 PM

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have u done it in a party?

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:57 PM

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the xp is a %bonus

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yes

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the xxp is a percent bonus on kills, but the big buff is its a %bonus on quests

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if you arent doing quests, the %bonus is worthless

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:58 PM

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you get xp for kills still?

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:58 PM

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a small amount

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not comparable to quests

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not even close

strange falcon May 28, 2018, 6:58 PM

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yes,it's an insignificant amount

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because (let's say,without any actual numbers) that the buff is 10% to exp right

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10% of 500?(from killing a guy) is insignificant compared to like 10k or whatever xp quests give

dense plover May 28, 2018, 6:59 PM

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quests give around 16k

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its a 15% bonus

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kills givee like 1200 xp

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the bonus is worthless in pvp

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 6:59 PM

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so its a 15% bouns for like 10min?

dense plover May 28, 2018, 7:00 PM

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but on quests it is somewhat significnt

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no

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the 15% bonus is active during war mode

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 7:00 PM

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ok

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so 1200xp for 1 kill?

dense plover May 28, 2018, 7:00 PM

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it is meant as a bonus for turning in quests

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 7:00 PM

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10kills = 12000xp

dense plover May 28, 2018, 7:00 PM

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yeah

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thats the equivalent of 4/5th of a quest

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 7:00 PM

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so i guess the murderpile is the best xp for lvling

dense plover May 28, 2018, 7:00 PM

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a quest which you definitely would finish first

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no

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you literally cant read can you

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quests are faster

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 7:01 PM

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everyone naked outside orgrimar i guess then

dense plover May 28, 2018, 7:01 PM

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that wont work

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honorable kill debyuff

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and again, only one side will get a bonus

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nobody is going to go stand and get killed repeatedly for no reward

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 7:01 PM

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lol that is wpvp

dense plover May 28, 2018, 7:02 PM

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no it isnt

strange falcon May 28, 2018, 7:02 PM

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look,if you want to do the murderpile,go for it,do it

dense plover May 28, 2018, 7:02 PM

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not in BfA

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you can try

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it wont work

strange falcon May 28, 2018, 7:02 PM

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we'll laugh at you when you're still 112 and we've been 120 for a week

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👏

dense plover May 28, 2018, 7:02 PM

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youll take forever to level

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also, ilvl matters for kill stuff

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pretty sure if you are naked, you dont count as an honorable kill

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since your ilvl is going to be like 30

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which is the equivalent of someone who is level 60-ish i think

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 7:03 PM

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i guess we will find out

dense plover May 28, 2018, 7:05 PM

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we dont have to because we already know how this works

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but your choice to try something ridiculously dumb is just that - your choice

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have fun taking forever to level and ignoring the fun quests

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or the other leveling methd - island expeditions

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 7:06 PM

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well i gues ill go to orgimar naked and see if i get killed for honr points

dense plover May 28, 2018, 7:06 PM

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you wont get any honor

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you got killed

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do you not know how pvp works?

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 7:07 PM

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once again this is what freinds are for peach

dense plover May 28, 2018, 7:07 PM

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they wont be able to see you

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why dont you understand this

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it isnt one shard per realm

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its a mix

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and outside of rp realms, is cross-realm enabled

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there is no guarantee of seeing people you know from the other faction

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in fact, its very unlikely

strange falcon May 28, 2018, 7:09 PM

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in my time of playing wow(dont exactly know when they introduced shards),but by questing everyday in the same zones,through various expansions,the only time i saw the same person twice or more,

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was just 2 times

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once on argus,and another in pandaland

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 7:20 PM

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my freind kills me

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my freind kiling me naked gets honor 😃

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.<

lilac berry May 28, 2018, 7:23 PM

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I meean.

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 7:23 PM

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so yeah the murder pile works as a lving strat appenrlty

lilac berry May 28, 2018, 7:23 PM

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I really want to play as a Sanlayn. ._.

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And now ...

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https://youtu.be/-EQ6eHeBrhM

YouTube

danusia23

Sad Violin

A very beautiful music

▶ Play video

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I will never have them ...

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I will die alone.

terse patrol May 28, 2018, 7:24 PM

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Why do you say that

lilac berry May 28, 2018, 7:24 PM

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And I will keep Role playing as an Undead High Elf with a Blood Elf...

sudden oak May 28, 2018, 7:24 PM

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we can only hope blizzard introduces another blood prince

terse patrol May 28, 2018, 7:24 PM

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They already implied theres more blood princes I thought

lilac berry May 28, 2018, 7:24 PM

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Such a sad fate ...

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Link me some hope @terse patrol

undone sphinx May 28, 2018, 7:27 PM

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when do the new deathknights get created in the lore?

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 7:27 PM

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In Legion. We create our own 'expendable' deathknights that are, community called, Generation four.

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and tartine

strange falcon May 28, 2018, 7:28 PM

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i think player dks were generation 3?

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 7:28 PM

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just because Dreven doesn't exist anymore don't mean that san'layn are gone. he has acolytes.

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and yup! Player DKs are Generation 3.

uncut vault May 28, 2018, 7:28 PM

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There’s a blood princess out there, and Falstad implies he’s only one of the blood princes

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 7:29 PM

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In which, regardless of Dreven, theres no information or proof that San'layn are being made into an allied race just yet

terse patrol May 28, 2018, 7:35 PM

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I mean, it can be assumed. They seem to be setting up allied races for gnomes (junker gnomes), undead (san'layn), and goblins (vulpera).

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But Sethrak are still up in the air (worgen).

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I think it's pretty clear theyre making an allied race for each of the base races.

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(sans pandaren)

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@hollow dock

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 7:37 PM

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Assumptions are never a good thung

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Thing*

terse patrol May 28, 2018, 7:37 PM

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What's to assume? Junker Gnomes seem to be all but confirmed. What, with the initial questline in game, the mysterious vault, etc.

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Which means undead are their likely counterpart to get an allied race.

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And they've already introduced San'layn to the plot.

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They won't do Dark Rangers, because they'd be confined to the Hunter class.

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What other undead type could get an allied race? Only the San'layn have been given any screen time.

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just sayin

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 7:41 PM

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we get junker pics yet?

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 7:42 PM

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We dont even know if junker gnomes -actually- exist

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All we know is that they are gnomes. that wentmissing and leftbehind ruins of what looks to be a destroyed Tinker Town-like area.

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The only thing that mentions Junker gnomes are the asset names.

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:00 PM

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wh was the person comparing the sethrak to GW2 things?

strange falcon May 28, 2018, 8:01 PM

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because they're both androgynous

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at least the sethrak are,unless blizzard smokes some drugs and decides Snitties exist

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:02 PM

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no i mean i have an image for them

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was it you Honk?

terse patrol May 28, 2018, 8:03 PM

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A bunch of native Kul Tiran Gnomes disappeared on the island. The Rusted Vault is full of brand spanking new Gnome assets, as well. The quest ends with the quest giver saying "I'll send word when I find something."

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@hollow dock

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And no, they're specifically assets for the Kul Tiran Gnomes, as the cogs have anchor symbols.

idle nest May 28, 2018, 8:03 PM

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the rep mount is so disappointing 😦

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 8:03 PM

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Yes they are.

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Doesn't change that it's still like tinker town

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I never said the assets are directly of tinker town :p

terse patrol May 28, 2018, 8:04 PM

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It's pretty clear they're prepping for the Gnome allied race.

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:04 PM

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this is relevant to the snitties chat

terse patrol May 28, 2018, 8:04 PM

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no

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:04 PM

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this is a female asura in GW2

terse patrol May 28, 2018, 8:04 PM

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That race is ugly af

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 8:04 PM

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Despite the fact that once again. There's no proof to it than your own assumptions

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:04 PM

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if they could do it, why can wow not

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 8:04 PM

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That dances dangerously close to loli territory

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:05 PM

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indeed, but it shows they are androgynous

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image deleted so as to not get in trouble

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 8:05 PM

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das prolly why it's not going to get done in.

uncut vault May 28, 2018, 8:06 PM

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So, we might have found the culprit for Teldrassil

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The alliance player

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:06 PM

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?

uncut vault May 28, 2018, 8:06 PM

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Delaryn has us detonate azerite kegs in the waters around Teldrassil

terse patrol May 28, 2018, 8:06 PM

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why do they need to be androgynous

uncut vault May 28, 2018, 8:06 PM

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To keep them out of the hordes hands

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:06 PM

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wait what?

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 8:06 PM

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So how does some water explosives

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acount to the tree

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igniting

terse patrol May 28, 2018, 8:07 PM

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I'd prefer if gnomes were a hair taller, and their heads matched their size.

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But I want them to be clearly male/female.

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 8:07 PM

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When a massive flaming dragon that passes over it

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didn't

uncut vault May 28, 2018, 8:07 PM

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Plot convenience

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:07 PM

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Oh i meant for the snakes, gnomes are cleary male female

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 8:07 PM

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Somethings not quite right

idle nest May 28, 2018, 8:08 PM

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re that gw2 image, i don't think that's a real armor set

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:08 PM

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it is an oufit, Raiment of the lich

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it uses the male shirtless model, instead of the female model

idle nest May 28, 2018, 8:09 PM

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omg it does x.x

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i'm sure that's an oversight by anet

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:10 PM

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no

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look at charr female

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same thing

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this one should be fine

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📎 unknown.png

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they could easily do that with the Snakes

terse patrol May 28, 2018, 8:13 PM

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i dont like GW2 design

idle nest May 28, 2018, 8:13 PM

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i suppose, but in retrospect, many of the outfits for asura charr are single gender because they don't have breasts i guess

terse patrol May 28, 2018, 8:13 PM

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sorry

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:13 PM

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The outfit in the picture is absolutely horrible

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but it is for a point

idle nest May 28, 2018, 8:14 PM

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and sorry, i just joined the server 5 minutes ago, not sure what I walked in on xD

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:14 PM

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Technically the Sylvari don't have tits, but just vine shaped breasts also, but those are covered mainly due to the shape

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Snakes don't have the shape

idle nest May 28, 2018, 8:14 PM

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true, but they model themselves after humans, growing certain appendages and shapes

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:14 PM

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oh ok, someone in here was comparing the snakes in BFA to the charr females in GW2 a few days ago

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and i forget who

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basically saying this is how you make a race androgynous without stepping on peoples feet

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but ya honk, that particular outfit is horrendous, but i got it back when i could play the market in the game

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honestly I will give gw2 one thing, they make the female furries better, I would play the above over a female worgen ANY day

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 8:22 PM

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All of GW2 races I dont like how theyre designed tbh

terse patrol May 28, 2018, 8:22 PM

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Korean MMO design sucks.

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@hollow dock

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 8:24 PM

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yup. unless theyre human females

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:24 PM

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I agree, but better then this ^ lol

terse patrol May 28, 2018, 8:24 PM

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One example.

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 8:25 PM

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so the worgen invalidate all of World of Warcraft?

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that's not a tad shallow?

terse patrol May 28, 2018, 8:25 PM

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Compare all other WoW races in comparison to all Guild Wars races.

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:25 PM

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oh no, I am saying female worgen look ugly

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 8:25 PM

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No ones disagreed with ya. We're stating Korean MMOs tend to suck for non-human female models.

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since that's where most of their money ends up going

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:25 PM

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non humanoid, yes

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Norn Females in GW2 are thic and done right

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 8:26 PM

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Oh hey

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human female

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Who woulda thunk

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:27 PM

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humanoid

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norn are basically Kul Tiran

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 8:27 PM

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So

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human

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female

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that doesn't change the statement I made before

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:27 PM

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again I am not following? I am agreeing with you

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 8:28 PM

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So yes they made human females incredbily well like the other Korean MMOs. Why reiterate what I said as now Im confused. O.o

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 8:28 PM

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we are both confused I believe

tulip sun May 28, 2018, 9:18 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvf1-rTFSvE

LIKEQUOTE

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Horde War Campaign Finale: The Strike on Boralus

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tulip sun May 28, 2018, 10:47 PM

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So is Zelling technically a shaman?

uncut vault May 28, 2018, 10:48 PM

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Tidesages are basically shamans, so yeah

tulip sun May 28, 2018, 10:48 PM

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So....forsaken shamans?

uncut vault May 28, 2018, 10:49 PM

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if they manage to raise more kul tiran tidesages, sure

tulip sun May 28, 2018, 10:50 PM

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In the last mission we acquire the tidesage secrets

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I totally see Zelling training more even

still lily May 28, 2018, 10:50 PM

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Will Timelord title achievement be removed in BFA for chromie scenario and shet

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??

uncut vault May 28, 2018, 10:51 PM

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No

still lily May 28, 2018, 10:52 PM

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Okay rad

sharp bluff May 28, 2018, 11:12 PM

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forsaken Shaman before forsaken paladins? didn't think that would happen

still lily May 28, 2018, 11:13 PM

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o3o

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That sounds reasonable tho

uncut vault May 28, 2018, 11:47 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/223122687227199489/450248102159319040/unknown.png?width=1202&height=677

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D&D nerds in kul tiras

dense plover May 28, 2018, 11:54 PM

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lol

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thats so great

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I attack the darkness!

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i take candle!

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so great

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all it needs is a strongest potion joke

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then its done

hollow dock May 28, 2018, 11:56 PM

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They did it

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they made the meta joke

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while making

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a meta joke

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"It'd be easier to heal you if you weren't standing in fire all the time."

dense plover May 28, 2018, 11:57 PM

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still needs a potion seller! joke

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 12:24 AM

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I like this art style SO much more

jade basalt May 29, 2018, 12:25 AM

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The artist, Katherine, is good.

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The Reunion comic's artist(s) is/are pretty good as well, and they're actually rather famous in the industry, but the opinions are more controversial on it, a lot of people didn't like the art style while others did.

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 12:27 AM

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I didnt hate the artstyle

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but jaina had no spine

jade basalt May 29, 2018, 12:27 AM

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Yeah a lot of people made spaghetti jokes and even memes.

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The Magni comic's style is more common and safe. And there's no odd proportions it seems.

tulip sun May 29, 2018, 12:31 AM

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alliane

rich apex May 29, 2018, 12:31 AM

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📎 Warcraft_meme_57.png

tulip sun May 29, 2018, 12:31 AM

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alliance comic*

rich apex May 29, 2018, 12:31 AM

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who wore it better

tulip sun May 29, 2018, 12:31 AM

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neutral comic

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I assume the next will be Horde

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Pft, of course I can't read it lol

dense plover May 29, 2018, 12:38 AM

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very likely

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so in a day or two we will get the full comic

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thats what happened with tha jaina one

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then a week after we will get another comic

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 12:55 AM

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My bets are either Saurfang or Nathanos for the horde one

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Then the post-launch one will be an actual story progression instead setup

dense plover May 29, 2018, 12:56 AM

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oh i was thinking gallywix or nathanos

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or maybe even talanji

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 12:56 AM

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Didn’t even consider Gallywix that’d actually be amazing

dense plover May 29, 2018, 12:57 AM

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since we dont have the story before BfA for how talanji got caught

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those are the 3 i can think of

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 12:58 AM

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wasn't it that she went to the horde and the alliance found her on intercept?

dense plover May 29, 2018, 1:00 AM

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yeah

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but how did she get caught?

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stormwind isnt anywhere near ogrimmar

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gallywix story would definitely be better

steel venture May 29, 2018, 1:01 AM

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unless she was trying to go to undercity she wouldn't have realistically gotten caught tbh

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 1:01 AM

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Are we applying realism to this and not everything else?

dense plover May 29, 2018, 1:01 AM

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so what do you guys think the chance of a drust raid or mini raid is?

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we only see a little bit of them

tulip sun May 29, 2018, 1:02 AM

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She was on her way to meet Sylvanas, I don't think it was specified where

dense plover May 29, 2018, 1:02 AM

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but gorak tul is on the load screen

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and he has an easy to say and catchy name

tulip sun May 29, 2018, 1:02 AM

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I am excited after seeing those finales

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But I have no clue where the Horde will go from here, but the alliance one flat out states they are invading Zuldazar.

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 1:02 AM

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I hope we get more drust content

tulip sun May 29, 2018, 1:03 AM

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But ya, I suspect the drust will get more info

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 1:03 AM

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The stuff in Drustvar, as good as it is, is woefully small

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And the origins are in a side quest

dense plover May 29, 2018, 1:03 AM

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yeah it seems like there is more

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again, he is on the load screen

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also he does say "your nightmare is just beginning" - "by destroying lady waycrest you have opened the doorway to your world"

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oh

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OH

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thros is after the dungeon

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 1:05 AM

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Yeah all that work in his final room has to be for something

dense plover May 29, 2018, 1:05 AM

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one of his death lines is "fools - i await you in the blighted lands"

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also seems there may be an explanation of how kul tirans learned druidism from the drust

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its related to thros

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 1:05 AM

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My bets are there will be continuations like the mage tower in a future patch

dense plover May 29, 2018, 1:05 AM

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and an npc named Ulfar

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Op1FhZ8MA&t=1736s

YouTube

Noone182

Battle for Azeroth Beta Voice Over Patch 8.0.1 26707

New Voice Over Patch 8.0.1 26707 in World of Warcraft Battle for Azeroth - Early Preview Beta 00:00 akunda 01:27 captain_delaryn_summermoon 05:41 gorak_tul 1...

▶ Play video

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he is a drust bear

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thats who Ulfar is

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i linked the specific moment

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it seems he has taught the kul tirans druidism

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 1:09 AM

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Yeah I hope he’s used plenty

dense plover May 29, 2018, 1:09 AM

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it definitely seems like there is more drust story planned

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oh

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they are called The Thornspeakers

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so it seems there may be some back and forth with them

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"My ways embrace death as part of the natural cycle"

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so thats why theyre all wicker-y

meager warren May 29, 2018, 1:10 AM

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forsaken druids confirmed?

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 1:10 AM

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It’s funny

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I’ve RPed a D3 style necromancer for years

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And used their balance ideology

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Now it’s official canon

tawdry haven May 29, 2018, 1:51 AM

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Hey, has there been any more info on this achievement?
https://bfa.wowhead.com/achievement=11339/legions-bane

Wowhead

Legion's Bane

Complete the quest line "The Council's Challenge," unlocking a new appearance for your artifact weapon. In the Legion Class Hall Achievements category.

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 2:20 AM

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None afaik

jade basalt May 29, 2018, 2:25 AM

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It might've been a test or scrapped achiev for the challenge tower questline.

steel venture May 29, 2018, 3:15 AM

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Probably what would've replaced it if they didn't say "Actually, no. You can't get this anymore."

dense plover May 29, 2018, 6:41 AM

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So I’m beginning to worry about endgame for BfA

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There’s no suramar equivalent

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At max level, once you complete the war campaign there isn’t much to do but world quests, islands, dungeons, and warfronts if they’re up

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It’s the same repetitive content with no real story progression

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I don’t know how blizzard can fix this, but they need to, or player retention will fail hard

drifting current May 29, 2018, 6:47 AM

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Hopefully they’ll add a patch or something just after release to add some nice endgame fun

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Because I agree, I don’t want to grind the same 3 things over and over until something interesting arrives

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*4 things sorry

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Forgot about warfronts, easy mistake

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 6:49 AM

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well, muffinus has been open to an 8.0.5, plus theyre making the gap between 8.0 and 8.1 longer

drifting current May 29, 2018, 6:50 AM

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If there is an 8.0.5, they should put in good level 120 stuff

terse patrol May 29, 2018, 6:53 AM

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what proof is there that there wont be a suramar equivalent

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 6:54 AM

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I mean, Suramar was tested

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so far theres nothing like that to test

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no max level zone, unless they have one to pop in for surprise

drifting current May 29, 2018, 6:56 AM

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They’d better, because currently endgame is looking, meh

terse patrol May 29, 2018, 7:06 AM

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I’m sure they’re hiding a lot of stuff until launch

deft escarp May 29, 2018, 7:10 AM

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People tend to forget that you don't have to play the game nonstop

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When there's no content, take a break

drifting current May 29, 2018, 7:12 AM

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But what people want to do is play as much as possible and get as much story and gameplay out of WoW as is possible, and if there’s just WQs, Dungeons, Warfronts and Islands on repeat until a major patch comes out, then it just bores the players

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It’s why WoD was such a failure, the endgame was stagnant

deft escarp May 29, 2018, 7:13 AM

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I hope they add another mage tower

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It's the only reason why I'm still subbed :p

drifting current May 29, 2018, 7:13 AM

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Mage tower was a great addition, they just need to add something to do the mage tower for

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Seen as the current one is for Artefact skins, they need a BFA equivalent

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Then I’m all for Mage Tower #2

deft escarp May 29, 2018, 7:15 AM

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I'm hoping for class-themed sets

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Like in MoP

drifting current May 29, 2018, 7:15 AM

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That would be a nice idea, or what with the whole premise of the expansion, faction sets for the classes, if that makes any sense

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Like a Horde Warlock faction set

deft escarp May 29, 2018, 7:17 AM

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Think they're saving the faction-themed ones for warfronts

drifting current May 29, 2018, 7:17 AM

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They’ll go all out on faction themes I think, really push the faction pride in

deft escarp May 29, 2018, 7:18 AM

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Well not for raids

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They said they're doing all the raid sets around the theme of the raid

drifting current May 29, 2018, 7:18 AM

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The Raid sets are pieces of shit

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The Mythic looks normal and all the rest look like questing gear

deft escarp May 29, 2018, 7:21 AM

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Yea, I think they should've kept the class-themed sets

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DHs only got like 3 sets

drifting current May 29, 2018, 7:22 AM

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Class sets felt more, unique

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 7:22 AM

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given community backlash itll probably be a BfA only thing

drifting current May 29, 2018, 7:22 AM

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Thank god

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Also, will we be getting Hearthstones for Dazar’alor and Boralus like we do Dalaran?

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 7:31 AM

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dont think so, but they have boats, and portals

untold fractal May 29, 2018, 7:33 AM

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will mages get teleports/portals to the capitals? maybe?

drifting current May 29, 2018, 7:33 AM

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I think mages will be able to teleport to the capitals, I’ll just have to change my hearth to Dazar’alor then

deft escarp May 29, 2018, 8:11 AM

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I think it's nice that we're finally going back to ships and zeppelins

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:25 AM

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I mean. like. to be fair. IN terms of class sets

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all the classes minus DH have been done in to death

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:26 AM

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I would still have that over the shitty raid sets thet we're getting

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:27 AM

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We haven't even seen all the raid sets...

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:27 AM

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Well so far with the Uldir ones, I’m not sold on them at all

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Cloth, Mail, Leather, Plate

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All bad

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:28 AM

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are you sold on any of the first raiding tier of sets? O.o cuz I'm almost never am

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:29 AM

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The Legion ones were pretty good, nice, varied and lots of fun glowy and 3D stuff (which makes a set for me) the Uldir ones the best we get is glowy eyes on Mythic

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And that was just the first tier for Legion I’m talking about

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:30 AM

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the first tier of legion was the first set of innovative sets we've had in a while =/

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:31 AM

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If anything that makes the Uldir stuff more disappointing

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:33 AM

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If anything it goes to prove Blizzards point even more.

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Nighthold is 1 tier of three and the other two tiers was a copy of an older tier and the final one just wasn't good.

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:36 AM

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The final tier was actually pretty good, the second one although it was a copy, they felt like they had revitalised some iconic sets

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I was really looking forward to seeing the BFA sets after the success of the Legion ones

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:38 AM

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I wouldn't call them a success :p I've encountered a lot more people who just didn't like the legion ones, minus a few classes.

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:39 AM

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I’d rather have a few classes and sets great and a couple of duds than a complete let down with all of them

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:39 AM

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to me this is more of the same. A tier or two is just a complete dud and one or two I really like ¯_(ツ)_/¯

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:40 AM

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None of them feel, special, for me

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:40 AM

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No set ever felt special to me.

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:42 AM

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I’ve found that the sets feel special as they’re more directed to you and your class,which allows it to feel more personal, not just a general ‘oh here’s one for plate, one for cloth users, one for mail and a leather one thrown in’

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:43 AM

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how are they directed for you though? o= sure for the class but how is a crystalized paladin set for 1 person but a more plate-mountain styled one not?

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:45 AM

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By to you I meant class, my Warlock doesn’t want to be identical to a priest, the crystal Paladin one and the plate mountain one would be similar, but not totally identical so it doesn’t feel like every class is copy-pasted across the game

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:46 AM

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I just don't see it. Every paladin looks the same while they all wear the same armor. It just now extends to the other two plate wearers. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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which it'd happen anyways. Since look-a-like armor exists.

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:47 AM

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But the sets don’t even look nice, I would accept the idea of no class sets if these new Raid ones actually looked good

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 9:47 AM

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honestly, at least atm Im 100% fine with sacrificing tons of tier sets for the sake of other things

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like warfront gear

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and heritage armor

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and I hope the trend continues in 8.1 with the barrens warfront and azshara raid

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:47 AM

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Same port. Im willing to wait for the other raiding tiers before I judge. First tier of raiding is generally never good.

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:48 AM

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This has not put my hopes high

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 9:48 AM

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just that azshara raid staff is enough to convince me the gear will be at least decent

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:48 AM

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I never expect to be blown away

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Expect the least and never get disappointed.

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:49 AM

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I look forward to sets, I like seeing how creative Blizzard can get with these things

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And they are an incredibly creative company and have great game devs and designers

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:50 AM

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these past few years blizz has not been all that creative with them.

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A lot of the time, like with Hellfire, Blackrock, SoO, etc have all felt samey. Nightholds the first time in a few years that it felt unique and even then it's just because they put dragon heads on my deathknights shoulders.

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:52 AM

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Again, I’d rather take having dragon head shoulders than the bland, uninspired sets in Uldir

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:52 AM

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For me I understand the concept of not being able to reinvent the mage every single time.

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Id rather em not get so restricted

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:53 AM

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I don’t understand why they couldn’t even make the sets look nice though

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:54 AM

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it's meant to be titan-specialized and sadly Ulduar made the first splash on that market

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:54 AM

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The Ulduar sets for the most part don’t actually look that Titan specialised

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So Uldir was a great opportunity for them

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:55 AM

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really?

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I can see that for the deathknight

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since that was seen on Darion before the Ulduar raid was released

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but Paladin with its floating titan runes, warriors with its steam-powered machinations, etc didn't seem Titan inspired?

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 9:56 AM

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I mean in the Chamber of Heart they set up another titan facility somewhere

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so they have another shot

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Uldir isnt really meant to just be titanic, its got a lot of troll roots

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and I think the armor meshes that well

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especially plate

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:57 AM

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There’s always a sodding troll raid

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 9:57 AM

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I think the problem is more the colors they chose

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:57 AM

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no there isnt

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 9:57 AM

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rather bland outside of the golden mythic

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:57 AM

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Last troll raid we had was MoP

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:57 AM

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They’ve definitely tried to go for a titany theme with Uldir

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Just the sets feel bland

strange falcon May 29, 2018, 9:58 AM

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they feel unimpressive,like something an actual person could wear instead of "particles galore floating pieces of gear 3000"

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 9:58 AM

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plate is one of the best in a while for me, if only because we finally have realistic chestplates

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instead of pasted on collars

strange falcon May 29, 2018, 9:58 AM

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which is good,we dont have enough of those sets

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 9:59 AM

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most of the kul tiras gear is realistic stuff, and Im glad the horde side of things is getting some

drifting current May 29, 2018, 9:59 AM

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I think the Mythic ones should be better, if you do Mythic raiding, you want to scream it

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 9:59 AM

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because the azshara raid is guaranteed to have flamboyant highborne gear

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 9:59 AM

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if you do mythic raiding, often times its not for the gears look :p

drifting current May 29, 2018, 10:00 AM

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Still want everyone else to know that you do

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I’m holding out for the Azshara sets, but as of now I’m quite disappointed with what could’ve been

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 10:01 AM

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plenty of other indications that you do. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

unique crag May 29, 2018, 10:01 AM

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Yo guys

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Hi

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 10:01 AM

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hello

drifting current May 29, 2018, 10:01 AM

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Hi

unique crag May 29, 2018, 10:01 AM

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Does anyone know where Wowhead got "San'layn emissary" part in their Alliance War Campaign part 6

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 10:02 AM

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Probably on the beta.

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 10:02 AM

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I mean, mythic gear isn't all that unique, hasnt been really ever, just a few modifications to the normal sets

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only tier that had really unique, fully different sets was t17

drifting current May 29, 2018, 10:03 AM

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Still looks more visually impressive

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 10:03 AM

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which tier was that again?

drifting current May 29, 2018, 10:03 AM

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Blackrock Foundry I think

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 10:03 AM

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highmaul

drifting current May 29, 2018, 10:03 AM

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Oh yeah

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 10:03 AM

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ah ok. ehhhh. The blackrock/highmaul sets felt kinda samey but their mythic variants cranked em up a notch

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 10:04 AM

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mythic warlock is still the best warlock set for me

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epitome of what an orc warlock should wear

drifting current May 29, 2018, 10:04 AM

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Why didn’t they do that for Uldir, introduced the concept of having no class sets with a bang

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 10:04 AM

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First tier of raiding is normally never impressive. 🤷

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The exception being Legion

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because it skipped the generic armor stage

drifting current May 29, 2018, 10:05 AM

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But this isn’t just a first tier, it’s a whole new idea and you want to impress on your first impression or else people will get skeptical

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 10:05 AM

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I mean Id say they impressed on the other end of WHY theyre doing less raid sets

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people love the warfront sets

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 10:06 AM

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and the heritage armor

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Heck the questing armor for the first time in a long while look actually appealing

drifting current May 29, 2018, 10:06 AM

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The Warfront/Heritage sets is the concept I said done right, if only they had applied that to raiding

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 10:06 AM

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the dungeon gear is gonna get used so much for human RPers

terse patrol May 29, 2018, 11:36 AM

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Think we’re getting anything today from Blizz?

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 11:39 AM

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we just got a shit ton of cutscenes

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so maybe not

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGaZKXcMG8k thats a way to kill a king

YouTube

Wowhead

Zuldazar - The Coup

▶ Play video

terse patrol May 29, 2018, 11:56 AM

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There’s speculation we may see the prepatch hit the PTR this week.

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@hollow dock

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 12:21 PM

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ah I see makes sense.

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I forget, did legions' prepatch hit the PTR or was it all tested in the beta?

terse patrol May 29, 2018, 12:35 PM

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Dont recall

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But this a bigger prepatch than any other

verbal badger May 29, 2018, 1:02 PM

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legion pre patch was just the invasions, dh and some vendors

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I don't think it was on the ptr

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 1:03 PM

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Yea Im curious on if the prepatch was tested at all on the PTR or if it was solely on the beta

terse patrol May 29, 2018, 1:11 PM

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Ye. So they might launch it this week or next. who knows.

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Maybe in june

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tbh

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I think they’re going to wait for the Overwatch anniversary to end.

wheat elm May 29, 2018, 1:11 PM

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it was on ptr

terse patrol May 29, 2018, 1:11 PM

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Blizzard doesnt like taking away from their other games

wheat elm May 29, 2018, 1:12 PM

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you could go there and test class changes

tropic trail May 29, 2018, 1:12 PM

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Well, maybe we're going to see a longer Pre-Patch period with a bit internal timeagting

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Like, I could say it having three "phases".

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The stuff with silithus and the artifacts

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The stuff around Teldrassil

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The stuff around UC

verbal badger May 29, 2018, 1:19 PM

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yes it will mostly likely have several phases

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because even if it drops only mid july

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you still have a month

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where content has to stay somewhat relevant

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because you remove artifacts

earnest mortar May 29, 2018, 2:25 PM

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i need bfa

📎 mail2.PNG

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the mogs are calling

📎 mail.PNG

deft escarp May 29, 2018, 2:25 PM

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holy moly

earnest mortar May 29, 2018, 2:26 PM

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exactly

tropic trail May 29, 2018, 2:39 PM

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wow those shoulderpads are THICC

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 2:41 PM

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ew

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horde

tropic trail May 29, 2018, 2:42 PM

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i'm alliance and I think that looks sick

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Well good for you.

sharp bluff May 29, 2018, 2:53 PM

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is that blue horde armor?!?!?!

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mygod, I need that, it looks amazing

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what is up with the worgen boots though?

earnest mortar May 29, 2018, 2:54 PM

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toe armor

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xD

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steel toe shoes

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idk

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there is also a black set

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warfront mail armor 👌

sharp bluff May 29, 2018, 2:56 PM

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mmm that armor is going to looks so good on most of the horde

wheat elm May 29, 2018, 3:18 PM

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That aint toe armor

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Thats brass knuckles for feet

glacial silo May 29, 2018, 3:35 PM

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That's the mail armor? Bruh yes please

quartz mango May 29, 2018, 3:59 PM

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anyone been trying Arcane Mage on beta? opinions?

karmic copper May 29, 2018, 4:00 PM

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I like how Blizz hid the side of Azeroth that has Zandalar and Kul'Tiras on the world here.

📎 aaa.png

dusky torrent May 29, 2018, 4:08 PM

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bfa beta questlog buggy?

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 4:09 PM

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very much so

sullen dagger May 29, 2018, 4:09 PM

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bfa is buggy as heck r/n

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also, honest question, why when people is asked about what race would you like to have as a playable race they ask for non humanoid ones, when it's friggin obvious they aint going to go that route?

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i find that mind - boggling

jade basalt May 29, 2018, 4:10 PM

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They didn't hide it. Zandalar would be located between the Maelstrom and Pandaria, it's just missing, because it's a 7.3 map

karmic copper May 29, 2018, 4:14 PM

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yea its to the right of kulai

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meaning that maybe that little thing there is zandalar

strange falcon May 29, 2018, 4:26 PM

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bruh,i dont like the warfront armor in general

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but that mail one

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oh boi

earnest mortar May 29, 2018, 4:32 PM

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@strange falcon i feel ya

sullen dagger May 29, 2018, 4:34 PM

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the alliance warfront lvl 3 is sweet as candy

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http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/718241.jpg

strange falcon May 29, 2018, 4:38 PM

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eh not really my cup of cake,just like the plate horde one

sullen dagger May 29, 2018, 4:39 PM

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i just leveled a warrior to get this

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murloc

dense plover May 29, 2018, 5:09 PM

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i think i realized how they plan to do max level content

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i think there will be quest lines in the other factions zones that arent directly part of the war campaign

ornate pivot May 29, 2018, 5:10 PM

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I thought they said that at Blizcon?

dense plover May 29, 2018, 5:11 PM

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not specifically

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they pretty much just described the war campaign

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which isnt that long

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though i imagine the rep grind will take longer on release

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since its pretty fast right now

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in general, i expect most of the reps to be slowed down

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since you reach revered with most of the leveling factions by the time you reach 120

ornate pivot May 29, 2018, 5:12 PM

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That could be a problem with keeping people

verbal badger May 29, 2018, 5:15 PM

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you could get exalted pretty fast in legion too

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on release

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if you spammed world quests and dungeons

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except nightborne which took a while

tropic trail May 29, 2018, 5:25 PM

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what are yalls thoughts on the new Paladin set up ?

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hm

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 5:30 PM

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Pretty dang fluid

meager warren May 29, 2018, 5:42 PM

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Nightborne took about the same imo

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It was finishing the story that was difficult

verbal badger May 29, 2018, 6:02 PM

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it might've been because of the stupid scenario that you kept having to do

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that made it feel like it took forever

ionic terrace May 29, 2018, 6:22 PM

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Wow, the Magni comic is super sad...

frigid crater May 29, 2018, 6:23 PM

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sad

ionic terrace May 29, 2018, 6:23 PM

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Queen Eimear Bronzebeard FeelsBadMan

dense plover May 29, 2018, 6:24 PM

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its only a preview

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theres several more pages

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they just arent released yet

ionic terrace May 29, 2018, 6:24 PM

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Yes they are 😛

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https://www.mmo-champion.com/content/7635-The-Speaker-Comic-Preview

"The Speaker" Comic Preview - MMO-Champion

"The Speaker" Comic Preview

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It says preview but it's the full thing

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https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/story/comic/magni-the-speaker @dense plover

dense plover May 29, 2018, 6:32 PM

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oh shit

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weird that it isnt advertised yet

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also servers just crashed

ionic terrace May 29, 2018, 6:32 PM

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Beta?

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and yeah, it's a really good look into Magni's family

dense plover May 29, 2018, 6:35 PM

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yes

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and damn

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apparently if we dont stop the wound, the world will explode

ionic terrace May 29, 2018, 6:35 PM

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Yeah monkaS

dense plover May 29, 2018, 6:35 PM

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also the parallels between his past and the sword are pretty great

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glad they didnt forget his past to make his present seem more important

ionic terrace May 29, 2018, 6:36 PM

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I've always loved Magni since I first played, heh

meager warren May 29, 2018, 6:56 PM

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@verbal badger what scenario? I was talking about that stupid currency you had to pay for everything

verbal badger May 29, 2018, 6:57 PM

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the one with the withered army

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and the spiders

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:00 PM

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you only needed to do it like 3 times if you were a tank

tulip sun May 29, 2018, 7:07 PM

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That comic...

strange falcon May 29, 2018, 7:19 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/329807329245659147/451101435225178122/Capture.PNG

agile token May 29, 2018, 7:25 PM

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oh my

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📎 unknown.png

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:26 PM

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Yea

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big surprise

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our planets dying if we dont act

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:27 PM

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not just dying

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apparently it explodes

verbal badger May 29, 2018, 7:29 PM

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we all know what this is leading to

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namely the whole artifact scenario

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I wonder what we'll be wielding as weapons till BFA though

sharp bluff May 29, 2018, 7:29 PM

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so... who likes outland 2.0?

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:31 PM

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The artifacts

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but as stat sticks

tulip sun May 29, 2018, 7:31 PM

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Is it bad that i wpuld like it to explode?

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Would

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:32 PM

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yes

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Very bad

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in fact

tulip sun May 29, 2018, 7:32 PM

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It would be interesting

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:32 PM

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loads of people die because of that

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and theres 0 guarantee we survive it.

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Unlike outland that was torn apart by portals

tulip sun May 29, 2018, 7:32 PM

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The krokul and animal lufe did on argus

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:32 PM

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ours is a literal explosion from within

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Because demons had to still inhabit Argus

tulip sun May 29, 2018, 7:32 PM

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Eh, if goijg by that image above

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:33 PM

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yeah what happened on argus is totally different

tulip sun May 29, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Going*

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It seems like there is

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:33 PM

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there's also no guarantee that the pieces stay where Azeroth is

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for all we know we crash into other planets and die

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that's not really interesting :p

tulip sun May 29, 2018, 7:34 PM

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We dont know if that would happen or not v.v

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Vlizz can write it however they want

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Blizz

meager warren May 29, 2018, 7:36 PM

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Outland 2.0...... sad

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:39 PM

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it wouldnt happen

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that would require an entire world cataclysm

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that would take so many resources

sharp bluff May 29, 2018, 7:39 PM

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it won't lol, but you can almost hear the fear

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outlands 1.0 is bad enough

tulip sun May 29, 2018, 7:40 PM

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I am not saying it was

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BUt it is neat to think about

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:45 PM

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think about sure.

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But to have happen, not so much

tropic trail May 29, 2018, 7:46 PM

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So are the drust vrykul?

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:46 PM

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no

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they look similar but aren't

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:49 PM

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gorak tul is the only actual drust we have seen

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the other are like spirits

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but they are similar to vrykul visually

tropic trail May 29, 2018, 7:50 PM

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They could be descended from Vrykul though, right?

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:50 PM

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they might but there isn't any real information on the how

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other than they look similar

tropic trail May 29, 2018, 7:50 PM

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I don't see them being descended from the Wild Gods or Trolls.

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:50 PM

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In which looks have nothing to do with relation

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since the Jinyu are mutated murlocs

tropic trail May 29, 2018, 7:50 PM

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I definitely dont see them coming from another planet either.

sharp bluff May 29, 2018, 7:50 PM

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all humans are descended from Vrykul

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Humans are mutant children of them

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:51 PM

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and we look nothing like them

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:51 PM

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the drust have no origin story we know of

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but they dont seem to be related to vrykul from the story we know

tropic trail May 29, 2018, 7:51 PM

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I mean they kind of have an origin story

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:51 PM

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no

tropic trail May 29, 2018, 7:52 PM

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like they have druid magic, that's very important

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:52 PM

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they have a - they were here before the kul tirans showed up - story

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thats not an origin story

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thats backstory to help explain their existance to the player

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backstory =/= origin story

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:52 PM

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they were the natives to Kul Tiras and I dont remember Uldir having titan constructs in it. Though the Drust having come from Uldir would make sense.

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:52 PM

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same as how we dont know the drogbar origin story

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we dont know if they are related to something like troggs

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or if they are unique

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the same goes for the drust

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:53 PM

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Yup.

tropic trail May 29, 2018, 7:53 PM

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we do have an origin story though

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aren't drogbar failed titan constructs?

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:53 PM

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not that we know of

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drogbar have no origin story

tropic trail May 29, 2018, 7:53 PM

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Xal'atath says that

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the priest artifact

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:53 PM

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all we know is they helped strap the plates on to deathwing

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:53 PM

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She implies it

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but does not outright say it

tropic trail May 29, 2018, 7:54 PM

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yes

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:54 PM

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implication is not enough for an entire origin story

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and we have nothing for the drust

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:54 PM

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It just gives a possible way for blizzard to expand if they want to

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if not, since it came from Xal'atath, they can just say she lied

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:54 PM

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we just know they were on kul tiras and then wiped out by the kul tirans

tropic trail May 29, 2018, 7:56 PM

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I can see no one is interested in talking about drust

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:57 PM

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we are

tropic trail May 29, 2018, 7:57 PM

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quickly denying anything said about their backstory

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:57 PM

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but we have nothing

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we arent denying

tropic trail May 29, 2018, 7:57 PM

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so I'll be on my merry way

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:57 PM

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we have nothing

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:57 PM

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You had asked us questions

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we answered the questions

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:58 PM

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the fact that we dont have answers isnt our fault

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we dont know

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because there is nothing in game

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:58 PM

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if you'd like to speculate, maybe not ask the flat question and present the speculation?

bitter sequoia May 29, 2018, 7:58 PM

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Sorry if its already been discussed or whatever, but will the allied races have the same requirements post launch as they do know? It seems strange to me that blizzard would want to lock away their new creations behind a grind wall, especially for new players

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:58 PM

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maybe

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:58 PM

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So far, yes.

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:58 PM

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we dont know

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they could change it after the prepatch

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which they might

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 7:59 PM

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there hasn't been any information on them changing other than "We're looking into it"

dense plover May 29, 2018, 7:59 PM

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^

bitter sequoia May 29, 2018, 7:59 PM

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Alright, thanks guys

rapid berry May 29, 2018, 8:39 PM

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I have question if I have 890 ilvl paladin what ilvl he will be in bfa. Can I see anywhere

drowsy wolf May 29, 2018, 8:40 PM

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The base characters are in 880 gear, so cross multiply

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880/185 = 890/x

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186.09 roughly

terse patrol May 29, 2018, 11:37 PM

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That comic was really good.

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@hollow dock

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 11:39 PM

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that comic was good.

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Im glad they put a reasoning for Magni's treatment of Moira

uncut vault May 29, 2018, 11:43 PM

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Yeah Magni and Terenas being the only two men with sexist views in warcraft was... weird

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glad theyre rectifying it

hollow dock May 29, 2018, 11:46 PM

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Indeed. They rectify it without excusing it. He's still sort of in the wrong for being so overprotective of Moira but it's more understanding of why he acted the way he did. I like that.

tulip sun May 30, 2018, 12:28 AM

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So uh....the riverbeast is a hippo.

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I was thinking iy was that animal from draenor

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:34 AM

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no

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it uses the same skeleton i think

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but its a new model

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inspired by the draenor thing

terse patrol May 30, 2018, 12:34 AM

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Well

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:34 AM

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but more hippo like

terse patrol May 30, 2018, 12:35 AM

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Its literally a hippo, just with tusks.

uncut vault May 30, 2018, 12:37 AM

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they are from draenor

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its a riverbeast

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it and the clefthoof are both draenor mounts

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:38 AM

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it isnt from draenor

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and it looks very different

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:38 AM

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can and will we ever get Azotha as an Allied Race?

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:38 AM

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legion: http://www.wow-petopia.com/images/skin_pix/hippo2_black.jpg

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BfA

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not legion

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Draenor: http://www.wow-petopia.com/images/skin_pix/hippoblue.jpg

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what are azotha?

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oh

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:39 AM

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They're the semi cannon race of humans and vrykul

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:39 AM

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no

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they arent canon

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:40 AM

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Kind of cannon

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:40 AM

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theres 0 mention of them in 3 volumes of chronicles

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they are no longer canon

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:40 AM

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Because of the azeroth thing

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but thats about it

devout wagon May 30, 2018, 12:40 AM

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Azotha are referenced in Lands of Conflict.

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:41 AM

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The WoW RPG books are not considered canon anymore

devout wagon May 30, 2018, 12:41 AM

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And Shadows & Light.

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:41 AM

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Wait

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who's the kid of garona

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:41 AM

#

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/2721372142?page=1

Ask Creative Development -- Round II Answers - World of Warcraft F...

The moon recently sent some irate emails to our Creative Development team, threatening to vacate Earth's orbit if we didn't divulge the answers to the "Ask CDev #2" thread soon. Rather than calling the moon's bluff, the CDev team stepped up its timetable and is now ready to p...

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:41 AM

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isnt he in the wow rpg books only?

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:41 AM

#

medan?

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:41 AM

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yeah

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:41 AM

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he isnt canon either

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:41 AM

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He's cannon

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:41 AM

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no

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he isnt

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:41 AM

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just the tirisgarde thing isnt cannon

devout wagon May 30, 2018, 12:42 AM

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Med'an is no longer canon. He was. He isn't anymore.

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:42 AM

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All of Med'an has effectively been removed from every story plot point in Chronicles

#

Med'an is not officially retconned out

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:42 AM

#

^

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but he literally doesnt matter now

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:42 AM

#

but every single event he appears in, he simply doesn't

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:42 AM

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so he might as well not be canon

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:43 AM

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Oh I thought they were just writing him out the plot but still keeping him

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:43 AM

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Garona helps out against the Hammer not because of her son, but because she wants to. Things like that.

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:43 AM

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they wrote him out of everything

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his status as existing is a bit up in the air

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:43 AM

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Yeah but that doesnt make him not cannon

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:43 AM

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but he doesnt matter

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:43 AM

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As I said.

#

He's not officially retconned out

devout wagon May 30, 2018, 12:43 AM

#

Rys does make a point.

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:43 AM

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he literally could be any character now though for all intents and purposes

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:44 AM

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but he is essentially retconned as of this moment.

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:44 AM

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he has no important role

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:44 AM

#

They could be saving him for something

#

Im guessing

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:44 AM

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i doubt it

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:44 AM

#

Even in chronicles vol 3 they place him in the index

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:44 AM

#

they want him gone

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:44 AM

#

next to the numbers "404"

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:44 AM

#

but dont want to say he doesnt exist at all

#

because those comics are nice

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:44 AM

#

and the writers have gone on note when asked about Med'an to "Let things go"

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:44 AM

#

^

#

they essentially dont plan to use him

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:45 AM

#

Keeping him in their pocket, just in case

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:45 AM

#

but they dont want to fully retcon incase of emergency lore reasons

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:45 AM

#

Right

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:45 AM

#

yup

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:45 AM

#

if they need garona to feel threatened

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or create a reason for garona to do something

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:45 AM

#

So the Azotha exist, right?

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:45 AM

#

no

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:45 AM

#

no

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:45 AM

#

That is RPG material

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:45 AM

#

those books are 100% not canon since 2011

#

none of the RPG material is

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:46 AM

#

RPG material is 100% not canon until they make it canon by altering it for the storyline

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:46 AM

#

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/2721372142?page=1

Ask Creative Development -- Round II Answers - World of Warcraft F...

The moon recently sent some irate emails to our Creative Development team, threatening to vacate Earth's orbit if we didn't divulge the answers to the "Ask CDev #2" thread soon. Rather than calling the moon's bluff, the CDev team stepped up its timetable and is now ready to p...

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:46 AM

#

Okay

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:46 AM

#

they answeredd there

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:46 AM

#

What is Azeroth's name?

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:46 AM

#

that is its name

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:46 AM

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Azeroth

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:46 AM

#

thats her name

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:46 AM

#

Azeroth's name is Azeroth

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:46 AM

#

The humans named the planet azeroth though

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:47 AM

#

Nope

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:47 AM

#

nope

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:47 AM

#

No?

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:47 AM

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thats the name of the titan

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:47 AM

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Why'd they change it?

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:47 AM

#

Chronicles

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:47 AM

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just like argus is the one from argus

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:47 AM

#

Volume 1

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:47 AM

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because thats how titans work

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because the name was decided on randomly 20 years ago

#

so they gave it a reason that made sense with argus coming up

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:47 AM

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Each of the titan souls have their own name. That name is placed onto the Planet.

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:47 AM

#

since that was probably already in planning somewhere

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:48 AM

#

Azeroth's is Azeroth, Aman'thul was Aman'thul (which is kinda odd for the rest of the pantheon but eh. )

#

not the strangest thing they've written into the game

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:48 AM

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not even close

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:48 AM

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Well that's disappointing for me

#

Anyways, I really hope the final boss isnt an old god

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:48 AM

#

it probably will be

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OR it will leead into an old god expac

devout wagon May 30, 2018, 12:49 AM

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It wont be.

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:49 AM

#

I mean. N'zoth is the only old god we haven't touched.

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:49 AM

#

but it probably will be

#

we havent even seen nzoth

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:49 AM

#

Yeah but we just got done fighting a Titan in Legion and after this we're just going to fight a puny old god?

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:49 AM

#

and theres so much old god stuff going on

#

old gods arent puny

#

theyre massive monsters

#

the size of continents

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:49 AM

#

Yeah but a titan can easily kill one

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:49 AM

#

Granted in comparison to a titan, yes they're tiny and insignificant.

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:49 AM

#

though they dont

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:49 AM

#

yeah

devout wagon May 30, 2018, 12:49 AM

#

This isn't an old god expac. It's just the prologue to one.

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:49 AM

#

and kill the planet too

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:49 AM

#

^

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:49 AM

#

its either a prologue or a full blown old god expac

#

its not clear

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:50 AM

#

Im calling it right now

devout wagon May 30, 2018, 12:50 AM

#

It really is.

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:50 AM

#

I hope a prologue

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:50 AM

#

8.1

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:50 AM

#

it is likely they are pulling a warlords -> legion

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:50 AM

#

Old God shit happens

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:50 AM

#

where BfA is about stuff and old gods are half the problem

#

then the next expac, old gods become the main problem

#

i mean

devout wagon May 30, 2018, 12:50 AM

#

Kul'tiras is invested with old go d influences, but none of the bosses that are leaked have anything to do with them aside from Azshara.

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:50 AM

#

we are fighting azshara

#

so theres going to be nzoth stuff there

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:51 AM

#

We do know 1 thing Maxi

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:51 AM

#

nzoth and azshara are story linked

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:51 AM

#

Azshara is this expacs Ghoulish daniel

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:51 AM

#

pretty much

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:51 AM

#

so you know what that means

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:51 AM

#

and nzoth is probably this expacs argus

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:51 AM

#

Old God shit happens bay

#

beeeeeeeeeeee

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:51 AM

#

Why not have this xpac be the prologue to the void lords xpac and have the old god be like the first or second raid boss

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:51 AM

#

we can't fight void lords

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:51 AM

#

we cant fight the void lords

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:51 AM

#

they dont exist in our reality

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:51 AM

#

Why not?

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:51 AM

#

they dont exist on our plane

#

they exist in a place we cant visit

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:51 AM

#

Okay something inbetween void lords and old gods then, if they exist

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:52 AM

#

it leaked once and destroyed the planet of the ethereals

devout wagon May 30, 2018, 12:52 AM

#

Old gods are the Void Lord's weapons. We can just take away the weapons. 🤷

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:52 AM

#

before they were ethereal

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:52 AM

#

yup

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:52 AM

#

void lords are serious shit that we cant ever fight

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:52 AM

#

Can we fight Azeroth?

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:52 AM

#

why would we?

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:52 AM

#

Maybe? but why

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:52 AM

#

Because corruption

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:52 AM

#

she's our planet

#

our home

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:52 AM

#

she isnt a void titan

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:52 AM

#

She's not corrupted yet

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:52 AM

#

and if she was two things would happen

devout wagon May 30, 2018, 12:52 AM

#

Yet.

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:53 AM

#

one, she would be way stronger than argus

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:53 AM

#

Sargeras wants to off her because she -might- be a corrupted titan

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:53 AM

#

Yeah they can pull some type of shit to make her corrupted afterall

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:53 AM

#

2, the planet would be fucked just like argus was

#

they arent going to do that

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:53 AM

#

and yea we kinda live here still

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:53 AM

#

that would require revamping both continents

#

it takes too many resources

#

it will never happen

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:53 AM

#

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3e/21/43/3e2143bc67f670e80f83e652e9a0ef7a.jpg gif related

devout wagon May 30, 2018, 12:54 AM

#

They're making a massive world war expac and are only changing two zones. I doubt they would change anything else.

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:54 AM

#

more than two

#

barrens

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:54 AM

#

theyre changing some parts of the old world

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:54 AM

#

dustwallow marsh

devout wagon May 30, 2018, 12:54 AM

#

How are they changed?

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:54 AM

#

teldrassil

tropic trail May 30, 2018, 12:54 AM

#

Okay so what other type of final bosses will be presented after we defeat the other faction and the last old god

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:54 AM

#

theyre getting completely redone in a later patch

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:54 AM

#

Arathi has all the new warfront assets baked in

dense plover May 30, 2018, 12:54 AM

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just like arathi

hollow dock May 30, 2018, 12:54 AM

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since theres warfronts there