#beta-ptr-spoilers
terse patrol
Next patch probably yeah
sharp bluff
really need prepatch info to hit beta now
hollow dock
good =D
Bout time
also
can I just say
Look at all those quests.
Stonejaw Saurolisks. Whoever Ayame is. General Blackstone. The Big One.
terse patrol
I just got a feeling that we’re gunna accidentally do something old god related when we attack Zuldazar. @hollow dock
hollow dock
Probably. But I think zul is going to be the reason behind it
then again
alliance technically already did
with us and illidan
and all that shenanigans
Seriously illidan fucked us over hard and we can't punish him for it.
ruby star
So that San'lyn dude dies? XD
terse patrol
Ye, but apparently there are others
ruby star
Not surprised tbh
ruby prawn
How did illidan fuck us over @hollow dock
hollow dock
he opened the portal to argus
Which is the one thing hte legion has always wanted
and it let Sargeras stab azeroth
which causes the azerite thing
and not to mention
ruby prawn
Yeah but we stopped the legion after all
hollow dock
because of this stabbing, it seems that azeroth herself is dying
Oh and let's not forget that ALL THE TITAN FACILITIES are having containment breaches
ruby prawn
I thing the end of the legion is much more important than Azeroth
hollow dock
and the only thing they have to contain
is ya know
OLD GODS AND THEIR FORCES
I really hope you were just being sarcastic
ruby prawn
I want illidan to become a void hunter now
hollow dock
because if we dont have a planet here
ruby prawn
Yeah I was
hollow dock
OK good
ruby prawn
I couldn't find a way to make it more obvious so it was a bad joke
sharp bluff
Illidan is hopefully gone for good, but knowing Blizz... your probably gonna get that
hollow dock
I want us to open up the seat of the pantheon
ruby prawn
But I really want illidaddy to be a void hunter
hollow dock
and illidan's just there impaled on sargeras' horn or something
fucker deserves to perma die already
ruby prawn
No. We need him for a void hunter class
Demon hunters are irrelevant now. Like death knights
mortal pewter
if that were true then why is it DKs can still kick Paladin butts?
sharp bluff
still may get him, wasn't there something about paladins summoning the spirits who praised the light as a rumor for BFA a while back?
mortal pewter
not sure
sharp bluff
I forget about most of the paladin stuff
mortal pewter
all i know is i tried to fight a 110 DK i think last week in beta and my pally is 120. he kicked my sorry butt easily
summoned army of the dead and such
hollow dock
Yea unholy can burst you real hard
mortal pewter
and i still have to kill a horde player for my war campaign
hollow dock
@sharp bluff https://i.imgur.com/TGGNnDr.jpg Found the screenie for it. Looks like we're doing it to stop them and it does seem that we're sending them into the void for something. Maybe mind wiping?
sharp bluff
that sounds very VERY risky
I sorta am glad my main is a Velf-lock now though on Alliance
hollow dock
I dont think its anywhere as risky as you're trying ot make it out to be :p
since void elves were made purely on accident
it's not like the other races naturally turninto void monstrosities
sharp bluff
probably not, I was just thinking that is a good way for void to get info
sharp bluff
True, I suppose at this point it would be weird for them not to see other timelines
hollow dock
so yea. not really all that morally grey tbh.
like maybe you can consider it crueler than usual to say
poison?
or shivving
sharp bluff
I nothing is grey at this point, I want to see some black stains on both sides lol
well, anything is better then being around Gallywix
sharp bluff
ahh ok, bit mixed up
hollow dock
youre turned into a blood troll to infiltrate and take out the emissaries as a plus to help hide alliance secrets
almost like we do with the couriers in Suramar 🤔
sharp bluff
ahh ok, I wonder what happened with the alliance trying to get the Blood trolls on their side, since we brought them up
if they changed it any
rich ocean
Why is the first thing you go to is "mind wiping"
what makes you want to assume they are "mind wiping" them, is there anything to apply that?
hollow dock
the implication being that Umbric mentions the secrets that the emissaries are spreading of the alliance
and we are to silence them. sending them 'somewhere'
it sounds like we'd be sending them to the void to do something of that. One of which can be erasing those secrets from the mind
as shadow priests had that theme for a while
it's not that hard to think that it's a possibility
sharp bluff
probably did the old eject into space thing
if they are dead, they can't spill secrets
hollow dock
that's also true
sharp bluff
I still want to know how the Void Elves are increasing in numbers in all honesty, sounds like they are playing a major part this xpac
terse patrol
We’re unlikely to get blood trolls. They follow G’huun.
sharp bluff
I doubt it also, but i thought there was a quest where you guys tried to recruit them, how south did that go?
cinder knoll
@sharp bluff I would say the old way 😄
terse patrol
Void elves aren’t necessarily growing in numbers, they’re acting as an elite squad.
cinder knoll
also they cant really increase in number except for reproduction, because their change from belfs was a one time accident
cant repeat to more belfs
sharp bluff
can't you? it seems like they could
cinder knoll
they couldnt, because what changed them wasnt their action
hollow dock
void elves are acting as Nighborne foil essentially
cinder knoll
it was action of someone else and they stopped him in the middle, ending in the state they are now
hollow dock
and yea. You physically cannot make more void elves at this time
hollow dock
as void elves were made entirely by accident, not of their own violation
terse patrol
Void Elves are at the halfway mount of being ethereals and elves, basically.
The ethereals were “freeing them of their flesh.”
Point*
hollow dock
Yup and without the nether prince, there's no way to replicate it
cinder knoll
maybe Locus Walker could?
sharp bluff
just kinda weird seeing that written down, the thing with all the races before was there was more of them then a small handful
Velfs really seem like such a small number for them to be playable if that is the case
sharp bluff
I know i know
hollow dock
just dont matter
sharp bluff
such an odd odd race
terse patrol
high elf posters crawl from their hole
hollow dock
You're the one tha tbrought up high elves honk
terse patrol
😉
ruby star
O_o
sharp bluff
wasn't me
hollow dock
You're the one who mentioned it tho.
sharp bluff
that... that is true isn't it?
ruby star
Not really Honk xD
hollow dock
Honk mentions it while a high elf poster is discussing things not high elf
terse patrol
Dont deny that I summoned Drorith with simply a mention of them.
hollow dock
He creeps here whenever any of us are speaking
ruby star
I have discord open on my other monitor, so I was lurking anyway xD
sharp bluff
everyone knows the gnome-elfs are the next race
ruby star
High Gnomes inserts Ions face xD
sharp bluff
High gnomes
a beautiful creature, for a more peaceful time
sorry Vris I kept that because it gave me such a great laugh
hollow dock
GNOMEATOR
rich ocean
Has there been a confired drop location for the bee mount yet?
deft escarp
yea
rich ocean
and that is..?
deft escarp
You have to BE farming for it
rich ocean
Can i get a mod in here i need someone banned
deft escarp
raw horizon
So it seems like Fury Warrior is extremely fluid in the latest build with people saying it is much better than live. I have a feeling we will be seeing a lot of fury warriors and demo locks this xpac
rich ocean
The bee mount....
sharp bluff
the bee mount Vris
hollow dock
Oh its island expeditions I thought
sharp bluff
the one voiced by jerry seinfeld lol
rich ocean
I was looking in game for it in the mount journal couldn't find it.
hollow dock
Oh so its not updated yet. Thought it was. http://www.wowhead.com/news=284417/battle-for-azeroth-build-26624-new-mounts-and-pets But!
The darkforge and Darkforge rams are for <paladins>
Not dark iro
Dark iron*
Dawnforge*
sharp bluff
Dawnforge? Nice name
tropic trail
daring wind
wild pewter
I so want an Alpaca mount
hollow dock
I still want mydevilsaur mount :c
dense plover
i cant wait to see boralus once it isnt a hot mess
its pretty great right now
but a lot is broken or unfinished
boralus is going to be amazing on launch
steel venture
🤔
Sethraliss is slimmer, and she has non-magicy scale-horns and bumps underneath all that flair.
I, for one. Would approve of spiky-but-relatively-androgynous sethrak gals.
Yes good.
meager warren
they look the same to me too
strange falcon
thats the point
tropic trail
except he said one was slimmer, but its not
uncut vault
it is
tropic trail
that was the point of my post
meager warren
even if it is slimmer, it's not slimmer enough to be a separate sex
meager warren
because they're just that close
tropic trail
actually i see it now, it's very very slight
steel venture
Yeah, it's rather slight. It's actually as minimal as male/female charr tbh.
meager warren
gnomes are an old race.
vulpera are an allied race of an old race
steel venture
male's overlayed ontop of her
uncut vault
the main difference aside from the spikes is the chest
different layout of the muscles
steel venture
honestly i would be all for sethrak staying minimally different
and yeah that too
if sethrak become the charr of WoW i would be very pleased.
uncut vault
sethraliss very clearly has sniddies
meager warren
coot
steel venture
also round eyes + eyelashes?
she cute.
terse patrol
imo
steel venture
She's a dungeon-related NPC model, there really was no reason to make it so you can completely remove her armor unless they might reuse it for actual female sethrak now.
terse patrol
Female Sethrak should be larger than the males.
strange falcon
thats kinky
meager warren
no u
terse patrol
its just biology
steel venture
Depends on if they make them based off of king cobras or indian / egyptian cobras.
uncut vault
the ability to remove her armor was added recently afaik
steel venture
Yeah, it was.
uncut vault
when we initially got the model people had to look around her bra to see the sniddies
strange falcon
lul
uncut vault
shes got sniddies, theyre just not anime sniddies
which, good, shes a fuckin snake
its more just the shape of her chest muscles
uncut vault
blizz correcting their mistakes
terse patrol
Snakes dont need boobs.
terse patrol
fucking furries
meager warren
if the tauren don't have udders but do have tits, then why don't the sethrak have tits
steel venture
cows have flat stomachs otherwise
meager warren
doesn't make sense.
blizz should at least use some consistency
terse patrol
Snakes not having boobs is fine.
terse patrol
Giving tauren udders would be autism
meager warren
oui, be nice
steel venture
brings up charr again on why tauren / pandaren / worgen women having tits is stupid
uncut vault
tauren and pandas at least have the excuse of being mammals, so humanoid versions -could- have tits
snakes are reptiles
and im glad its just different muscle shape instead of actual tits
steel venture
a female dev basically said this:
"no breasts or SIX BREASTS. no exceptions. They're giant cats why would they need tits."
rich apex
meager warren
pretty much every playable race is mammalian tho.
why don't they just keep giving us mammal pcs
rich apex
(for bonus points, argonians don't even sexually reproduce)
meager warren
tbf, they can get the goblins to do some genetic engineering on sethrak to give them tits
terse patrol
no
steel venture
and worgen women have a /silly about having "six nipples" so actually they would have six tits. your mind is ruined ur welcome.
terse patrol
if that was a thing
i think most worgen females would kill themselves when they realized they had six boobs
meager warren
?
why
terse patrol
degeneracy
terse patrol
and more than two is gross
meager warren
no u
steel venture
honestly the live version of worgen females looks more furrybait than the alpha version
fucking makeup on fur.
meager warren
ye
steel venture
its so bad.
anyway tho like
legit sethrak being like the charr would be 👌
meager warren
charr?
steel venture
how you tell with charr is softer-featured faces and their tails really. from a quick glance
terse patrol
worgen females should be hunched too imo
steel venture
male on left, female on right.
these are charr.
males have lion-tails
females have cat-tails.
males are more monster-faced
females usually are more feline-faced
meager warren
charr look like mammals tho
steel venture
But they actually share most animations, and can be equally bulky or thin.
(And no I know, but I'm saying the minimal dimorphism would be something nice to add to sethrak.)
Since reptiles don't really have much dimorphism either outside of size and minor features similarly to how ArenaNet designed the charr. (Who are based off of large cats, which don't really either outside of lions.)
sharp bluff
Ahh Charr, furries done right
steel venture
^
So here's to hoping if Sethrak become playable they'll be scalies done right.
Without .. fuckin snitties.
terse patrol
inb4 thicc snake titties
slate ingot
hmm in other news I have another war campaign quest
even though I finished the warcampaign
hollow dock
Anyone here have the screen shot
of the znadlari druids
who are balance?
referencing Luna'lai?
slate ingot
hollow dock
no one?
slate ingot
dont think so
uncut vault
im looking
slate ingot
apparently I have a breadcrumb for siege of boralus
uncut vault
Ive linked it here
slate ingot
if that war campaign thing is correct, horde gets a quest for siege of boralus
hollow dock
we've posted so much shit in here
slate ingot
ye I dumped basically the entire horde war campaign in here didnt get much credit for that as its being posted on wow head
uncut vault
hollow dock
ty port
uncut vault
is it the dungeon siege of boralus, or an actual end quest chain?
cause alliance gets a quest chain
slate ingot
look at the image above
I dont know what it is yet because I cant log into my character its stuck but
thats what I have I finished the war campaign as well
dense plover
yeah the quest unlocks the dungeon
uncut vault
like, gone to sylvanas, had all your followers there, and gotten the "grats, but we're not done" stuff?
dense plover
and then it has you go to attack a tidesage temple in the city
and then you cant continue
slate ingot
you can finish the tidesage stuff
hollow dock
port
dense plover
because the tidepriest temple door is blocked now
slate ingot
or what I did atleast? on the horde side
slate ingot
did they change stormsong monastery?
dense plover
you get teleported to a basement
slate ingot
yes
dense plover
no that still happens
this is after
you get to a basement
but the exit is blocked by an invisible wall nopw
because boralus is a hot mess
slate ingot
and you have to steal an artifact?
sharp bluff
Vris you have a snek folder don’t you?
dense plover
you cant do it now though, the basement is broken so you have to HS out
they broke it
slate ingot
I mean I have the entire thing done, I dont know what is
dense plover
you take to tattersail
hollow dock
Now I do
dense plover
and teleport to the great sea
then you complete a quest by talking to lillian
its an acept and complete quest
uncut vault
oh I know exactly what that is, its just the "hey heres the dungeon now" quest
I got it for kings rest on my ally dude
slate ingot
yeah siege is gated behind the war campaign? it seems
how far are you on the war campaign
uncut vault
I finished it, but it's a part of the great sea section
horde equivalent is fishing for derek
slate ingot
Yeah, there is an update for fishing for derek as well
and some dialogue
basically while fishing they lose a boat and fight off the alliance
so alliance does know about derek somehow
uncut vault
you dont find out about derek during alliance one
the alliance attack is the alliance campaign
we're just after dreven
uncut vault
sink the sanlayn ship, zeiling uses his magic to protect the other one
terse patrol
does the sanlayn ship have a unique look
sudden oak
I do hope that doesnt mean that dreven and the other horde san'layn are dead
uncut vault
No, its just a forsaken ship with blood crystals on it
dreven is dead
all the sanlayn are not
dreven is not the only blood prince
sudden oak
thanks the heavens
I really like San'layn
and I would kill to have them as allied race
sharp bluff
oh oh oh
guys we don't get the bronze dragons to help
Time magic was the province of our former leader, Grand Magistrix Elisande. Much of her knowledge died with her.
It is said Elisande had mastered incantations known only to the bronze dragons. Perhaps they would be willing to aid your cause.
er wait
isn't she all phased out?
uncut vault
hollow dock
Well excuuuuuuse me, Banshee Prince. Sorry if I'm rattled after nearly getting killed... in a deal that I was against making in the first place!
That deal was more trouble than it was worth. There is an easier way to get what we want... by cuttin' out the middle man, if you get my drift.
Gallywix
must
be
purged
HE REFERENCED THAT WHICH SHOULD NEVER BE REFERENCED
sudden oak
?
hollow dock
He referenced Zelda CD
sudden oak
WHAT IN THE LIGHTS NAME IS THAT ABOMINATION
hollow dock
that which shall not be named
sudden oak
sharp bluff
PURGE HIM NOOOOOOOWWWWWW
tropic trail
"well excuse me princess" is from the cartoon, not the games
meager warren
@hollow dock what's wrong with Zelda references
there's references all over the game
and bet this isn't the first one to zelda
meager warren
that's funny considering this isn't even the first zelda reference.
Also, care to explain?
dense plover
it was an awful cartoon
balmy heart
I liked the Zelda cartoon 😦
dense plover
most people didnt
balmy heart
I will agree, however, that the cd-i games were turrible
My Druid has the quest rewards from doing the Zelda quest chain in Un'goro back in the day. (Or was it Feralas?)
dense plover
ungoro
slate ingot
Ungoro and that was from the cata revamp
low zinc
Guys, if i now lvlup my shaman from 1lvl and reroll him for Maghar orc in BFA i get my race armor ?
dense plover
no
you have to create a maghar and level it up
race changing does not give race armor
but race changed characters can use race armor once it is unlocked
low zinc
ehhh... /cry but thanks
dense plover
its the same with all of the allied races
fierce crane
So terrible they were Ninty does not awknowledge them
slate ingot
so this wasnt a thing before in recent builds
rapid berry
so im doing boralus quest of the horde war campaign anyone found the npc to give in quest
slate ingot
which part
rapid berry
last one
slate ingot
whats the name of the quest
slate ingot
if its return to the harbor nathanos isn't there
olive mirage
its also a great reference
slate ingot
never noticed as horde
rapid berry
i got 3 quests relics of ritual, forfeit souls, tidesage teachings
slate ingot
hes in stormsong monastery and should follow you around
olive mirage
that quest is almost word for word the intro to the indie game Darkest Dungeon
rapid berry
that the thing not nathanos gave quest but that new forsaken dude
olive mirage
and i love it
rapid berry
he didnt followed me
slate ingot
if its the zeiling quests
he should phase in if you run out and back or check the basement
rapid berry
i seequestion marks but no him did reload
slate ingot
are you in the basement? keep in mind the updates to boralus have broke shit over there
the basement with the portal
meager warren
you already said that
dense plover
still true
and still relevant
and still worth restating
not everyone read it
even in its state though, its gorgeous
meager warren
i bet
autumn tartan
So I just learned zen pilgrimage doesn't work -.-
sullen dagger
where?
crude void
have play beta since last night
been up ll night no sleeop geting carry for 1800
after im going get tranmog banana SET than go horde city org and mess them up and than get back on beta lol;
slate ingot
Basement works fine
tulip sun
So, are all the San'layn dead now? Or is there more loyal to the Horde I wonder.
tulip sun
They aren't what.
tulip sun
Have we seen them elsewhere though?
and oh damn
The alliance plans to raid Zuldazar and take or kill Rastakhan
dense plover
which lines up with talanji taking over
and would be a reason for the horde to continue fighting the alliance
since rastakhan doesnt want to fight them
but talanji does
tulip sun
Poor Rastakhan though
He is great
I mean, he could always survive the encounter and such
and that raid would make him want to fight
dense plover
he definitely is going to be stepping down as leader
dense plover
there is VO implying that by Uldir, Talanji will be stepping up as leader
so its likely he steps down more than dying
tulip sun
Nothing is really pointing straight out that he'll die, or if so, when/where.
He ruled a very long time
dense plover
no, theres just vo evidence that talanji will be taking over as leader
no reason given so far
tulip sun
It seems the entire alliance campaign has been played through...they got some major victories at the end.
I wonder what the Horde's finale will end with
dense plover
i mean, so does horde
direct attack on proudmoore keep probably
theres an active attack on the back side of the keep
sharp bluff
Death of a troll king/ death of old proudmoore, both daughters take over, I could see that
dense plover
more thros vo probably: https://youtu.be/-VxkC3MNAew
sharp bluff
Ghost voice? Or other?
tulip sun
Mogu are still working with the Zandalari in the last portion of the alliance war campaign?
strange falcon
in the horde zandalar story,the mogu are pretty angry they didnt receive the army of ships from zul
tulip sun
They are helping work on the zandalari naval ships.
strange falcon
at the start sure,but when zul pulls his cards
they are evidently hostile and you kill quite a bit of them
tulip sun
You don't understand, this is the last part of the alliance war campaign
Aka after Zul's betrayal
strange falcon
🤔
tulip sun
strange falcon
halfway through the zone's storyline
tulip sun
Exactly, this is after all that. AFter the main storylines
dense plover
yeah the mogu are everyone's enemy
strange falcon
you're not understanding what i'm saying here,the mogu are enemies to the zandalari trolls under rastakhan they're with zul
mystic heart
@dense plover Rhonin's for uther story or something
mystic heart
and i'm think we will see ARTHAS 😄
tulip sun
Dafire, but this time-wise takes place after all that
strange falcon
even if it takes place after,they are still allied with zul
dense plover
^
tulip sun
This is the main fleet for the Zandalari they are on.
strange falcon
yeah,zul gave them the ships
dense plover
because zul didnt give them to them like he said he would
tulip sun
If they took the ships, why would they be a concern to the Alliance?
dense plover
the mogu arent allied with the zandalari
because the alliance think they are allied with the zandalari
because they dont know the difference between zul and rastakhan and throne of thunder
why would they?
they only have the story theyve seen
tulip sun
This whole thing about attacking them is to weaken the Zandalari Fleet. If they were taken by the Mogu, that would be weakening them, not the Horde.
tulip sun
I don't think that what your saying is true, but whatever. Lets move on to another topic.
I saw Vris say there is no proof that the alliance attacked Emissaries
They slowly vanish into the rift.
dense plover
wait
you think im lying about the zandalari NOT allying with the mogu?
they arrent
watch a playthrough of zuldazar
zul brings them in to help
then when we find out they are allied with zul against rastakhan we go attack them
then they go rogue
and become a persistent threat
they are literally a threat for zuldazar worl quests too
sharp bluff
Vris agreed they pulled in the emissaries Khamnin, it is the shredders we don’t know about
tulip sun
They even killed an emissary who was healing a wounded zandalari 😦
and ya, I didn't see any shredder
Peach, I knew you fought them as Horde at one point, but this is set after all that.
Which makes me believe some are friendly to the base Zandalari and not just Zul
sharp bluff
Shredders are different part we were talking about wether the shredders were robots or goblin pilots
strange falcon
just because they show as "red" to alliance
rich ocean
IS there confirmation yet you are killing them?
rich ocean
From what ive heard its impied they are mind wiped.
sharp bluff
Idk which is worse honestly Fel
tulip sun
Dafire, the quest specifically states you are going in to destroy part of the Zandalari's naval fleet, manned by Mogu and Zandalari
rich ocean
I mean... better alive with some memeories erased then dead...
sharp bluff
Who said only some memories?
strange falcon
the alliance dont know that there are zandalari that are with zul
they just see "zandalari"
they dont make a distinction
rich ocean
Still better then dead then, unless they are being tortured, so we will see. The horde has done much worse all the way back to vanilla.
Let us look back to the women and men trapped in cages in undercity being turned into animals, or being forced to drink acid?
tulip sun
Unless this all takes place during the main campaign before Zul betrays, I find it unlikely that there are still Mogu with ships infront of the capitol.
rich ocean
Alright, no biggy, just making a point. About time the alliance stops taking the hordes nonsense.
tulip sun
I highly doubt Blizz would give the Alliance a fake victory as well
strange falcon
there still are,AFTER you complete the storylines
and as peach said
the mogu and the ships they stole
appear as worldquests
so they are still there after the story of the zone itself
rich ocean
Also it just dawned on me.
sharp bluff
But we are talking about velfs, who just joined, so not talking about old war crimes, talking about new ones
rich ocean
Why does the horde suddenly go to the zandalari, the faction who has tried to kill them like... uhhh 5 times now?
sharp bluff
Rescued princess 🤷
strange falcon
because they break zul and talanji out of prison
and have to escape stormwind
and the ship is talanji's so she decides where to go
tulip sun
Talanji was on her way to Orgrimmar to request the Horde's aid when captured as well
rich ocean
Ah ok. Seems abit weird though, the zandalari and the horde suddenly not literally slaughtering eachother on sight.
I mean i understand the faction conflict but i mean... They tried to kill you like 5 times guys.
sharp bluff
Diplomatic immunity I think is the case
So we take the chance to try to bargain
Belfs tried to kill the horde a lot to
Forsaken also
It is a habit I guess
sharp bluff
Pretty much everyone but Tauren (reg not Highmountain) have tried to kill the horde atm now that I think about it 😆
sharp bluff
Did they attack the horde? I thought they only attacked the Tauren
hollow dock
Grimtotem do attack the horde. O.o
that whole thing with mag in Thunderbluff and her getting Carine killed?
remember that?
sharp bluff
I mean yes Tauren are part of the horde, but I don’t remember them being outside thunderbluff
Yes I remember
hollow dock
thousand needles too
hollow dock
who?
tulip sun
The way they were killed tho
uncut vault
Disposed of quickly, because we are in a timetable
Void elves are explicitly brought in because they’re good assassins and scouts
If we’re willing to straight up murder Gallywix, why would we be interesting in randos being taken prisoner
mint arch
G R E Y
tulip sun
drifting current
What can you use the Pandaren leaders for anymore anyway
hollow dock
Monk stuff. I can't name a single alliance leader that isn't going through some form of trauma. Have them on the front lines being monks. Have them healing like a monk. Hell have them brewing for all I care.
sharp bluff
I’m pretty sure brewing is being done on the horde side, don’t worry
drifting current
The Horde love a brew
Actually there is one Alliance leader not going through trauma
Gelbin Mekkatorque
hollow dock
He's still toiling over what he did to Thermaplugg.
drifting current
For all I hate Gnomes, I feel they should actually show their story and stuff a little more because I knew we killed Thermaplugg, but I didn’t actually know what impact it had on, anyone
sharp bluff
They really do need more story
drifting current
Or, we can just cut out the middle man and cook them in a pie that will feed the poor of Azeroth
sharp bluff
Take the pie goblins, leave the gnomes
drifting current
Goblins are better than gnomes
Neither are great, but gnomes are the bane of my existence in a way no one understands
In fact, for my birthday last year, my boyfriend because he’s a funny man, printed off loads of pictures of gnomes and posted them round our flat as decorations
drifting current
The first thing I saw when I woke up on the morning of my 23rd birthday was in order my boyfriend, awake looking at me, my lamp, a gnomes head by my feet
I had an actual heart attack
sharp bluff
Not a bad way to start the day in all honesty
drifting current
I genuinely could not think of a worse way to start a day, he found it so funny he fell out of bed
I did not talk to him for the rest of the morning
tulip sun
I love that Aysa appears
On the war campaign ship too, maybe she is a part of the next step
drifting current
That would be nice
sharp bluff
gnomes are better then what one of my uncles did to me, I did not even know they sold airhorns in bulk
sharp bluff
everywhere, behind doors, in the fridge, in my car
beside my bed so i stepped on one rigged up to a pedal
and that is after i got woke up with one
drifting current
That is the most cruel yet amazing prank in the world, how did he fit them so sneakily
sharp bluff
he still won't say
he has a spare key though so probably that
and i sleep like a log
drifting current
My boyfriend said when I woke up: (he does IT) “my friends at work looked so confused when they saw me printing out 50 pictures of gnomes, but the moment I told them it was your birthday, they just nodded and knew immediately”
sharp bluff
sounds like good friends
drifting current
Eventually he made up to me by taking me out to breakfast wearing a post it note on his forehead saying ‘I glued gnomes round our flat, this is my punishment’
sharp bluff
Brilliant
drifting current
And yet STILL I have to call it a serious relationship
There is nothing serious about that whatsoever
sharp bluff
gnomes are serious business lol
drifting current
He put one in my underwear drawer
sharp bluff
😆
drifting current
I’ve never had more consecutive heart attacks
Underwear drawer, end of bed, behind coffee, in the microwave
Some highlights of my birthday last year
uncut vault
“Mekkatorque doesn’t have trauma” I think that having to slice your best friend in half and leave him to die is pretty traumatic
sharp bluff
turned her worgen to save her?
tulip sun
That is what I am thinkin
wild pewter
She just sounds like an old woman to me. At what point does she sound Worgen?
hollow dock
When she has a growl in her voice
uncut vault
Pretty sure thats just her being old, and underneath a tree thats literally burning to ash
wild pewter
^
tropic trail
yeah I'm not hearing the worgen
uncut vault
I mean, even genn's said that at this point, being worgen doesnt have many downsides
just has a stigma
meager warren
well yeah, but being worgen is just so last year amirite
uncut vault
even though it doesnt seem shes becoming a worgen here, I wouldnt be mad
pretty sure we dont have any actual female worgen characters
aside from celestine and the kaldorei worgen in felwood
meager warren
i wonder how they'd make the unique NPC female worgen model
hollow dock
Worgen become Warwick from LoL
rich ocean
Queen mia greymane: Genn may be known as the old wolf. But I can make him purr like a kitten
one thirsty fucking dog there
fierce crane
lewd
sudden oak
ಠ_ಠ
meager warren
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
tight wagon
prestige leveling works the same in bfa? besides account bound
50 levels per prestige
uncut vault
Prestige levels are gone in BfA
its just honor levels now, and its 5.5k honor per level
tight wagon
cool thanks!
dense plover
i thought the amount per level increased? is it static?
uncut vault
as far as we know, it is static now
there are addons that do the calculation for you on live servers
uncut vault
you know, I just realized, with how crazy auto attacks are in BfA
will slice and dice finally be good on outlaw?
meager warren
if they are good, they're probably just gonna be nerfed again
uncut vault
well theyve said that auto attacks are explicitly meant to be more powerful again
and you cant really nerf slice and dice without completely changing what it is
dense plover
i thought everyone just took slice and dice because they dont like roll the bones
spring pumice
hi, will hunters have stealth in BfA?
hollow dock
camouflage? I think its still a talent for survival
spring pumice
ya, thank you!
lone fern
Just a quick question, on mobile, is the heroic queue bug fixed by now?
dense plover
Probably not
Or wait
Yes probably. These are probably temporary
Especially since the fate of Renan is supposed to be a cutscene like the banquet post argus cutscene
sudden shoal
Does anyone know where this would come in? I thought in the thros scenario but i cant find anything about it on the datamined stuff 🤔
sharp bluff
Chromie? ❤
dense plover
Lots of jainas story isn’t in yet
sudden shoal
Ooooooh very excited gotta love jaina history hehe
rich ocean
hear me out
alright?
so uhhh Loa can be ressurected
What if voljin becomes a loa
gets ressurected as like a dinosaur, lets say a trex
then becomes warchief again
HORDE TREX WARCHIEF
Alright when is blizzard gunna hire me? We will hit 15 mil subs tomorow if i can make this happen
dense plover
loa dont change forms
bwonsamdi still looks like a troll
loa that look like animals are wild gods
they were animals before they became loa
rich ocean
Yeah but maybe when you BECOME a loa
dense plover
no
rich ocean
you can choose
rich ocean
Is there anything saying you cant?
dense plover
yes
rich ocean
Bwsombi could have chosen to look like that.
dense plover
no
he couldnt
the story of loa tell us they start off as what they are with spirits so strong that they are godlike
bwonsamdi was once a regular troll
rezan was once a regular devilsaur
torga was once a regular turtle
thats how loa work
if voljin becomes a loa
he will look like voljin
rich ocean
But there is nothing saying they cant choose what they look like though. Also could voljin not then be ressurected into the body of a devilsaur?
dense plover
thats not how any loa work
literally none of them
they arent going to change things for one character
especially since it would come from left field
rich ocean
I mean they have done stuff like that for ALOT of stuff.
dense plover
no
they havent
they havent been - here is 20 different examples of this thing, but not for this thing
like, you are arguing a point that is unrealistic
rich ocean
Except maybe none of them chose to pick a differant form, we have had lore changes plenty of times
dense plover
not recently
rich ocean
a minor one like voljin able to choose his form is nothing compared
dense plover
chronicles
the loa are defined in chronicles
they wont do it
also there is no minor loa
there just are loa
some are stronger than others
rich ocean
Who said minor loa..?
rich ocean
A minor change...
dense plover
its not a minor change
rich ocean
You seem super angry this morning.
rich ocean
Who says they all cant but didnt choose to?
rich ocean
We literally just had kiljaden turn out to be a "good guy" in it all, and we just had everything we knew about the light flipped upside down.
dense plover
no we didnt
no we didnt
he was evil the entire fucking time
at no point did KJ become a good guy
velen forgave him
that is not even sort of the same thing
and we didnt have anything about the light flipped upside down
we knew almost nothing about the light
it was expanded on
your examples show you dont know the lore at all
rich ocean
I put it in "" Because its more of how he apologized speaking about how he wouldnt have done it if he had known sargeras could be defeated, literally saying "I wish i had known he could be defeated, i would have gone with you"
dense plover
you can ask for forgiveness and still be a bad guy
that does NOT make him a good guy
he was dying
rich ocean
I am gunna pop out this is getting abit ridiculous.
dense plover
he asked for forgiveness from one of his oldest friends
tropic trail
why don't they bring up dead characters as often in quests and what-not
clever ember
Why would Vol’jin choose to be anything but himself? Everything he accomplished that earned him his place as a loa, he did as a regular troll. It wouldn’t make sense for him to be resurrected as anything but himself, if it were possible.
rich ocean
He is aparenrtly "much more powerful" In BFA says zalazane, also the zandalari ressurected Mandokir into another body when we go to fight zulgurub again.
Also i mean... If you can choose between a troll body and a trex....
hollow dock
I'd choose the troll body that can transform into a t-rex
best
of both
worlds
=D
wheat elm
Honestly what i want to know is how Rezan has light powers
wheat elm
Yeah i know that, it's just kinda weird idk
rich ocean
The trex can talk, so i mean.
wheat elm
Its true that blizzard is making all light have the same source but
rich ocean
https://youtu.be/cCK2jtbBRCQ if you handt seen it.
rich ocean
He might just be a filter, like he gets the light, then teaches others to obey him, and in that sense they are obeying the light
SERIOUSLY? Lol thats legit man
wheat elm
Soo even before rezan was confirmed the light loa
rich ocean
im sure they are coming, how he spoke about them during that Q&A
wheat elm
We had been speculating about it
rich ocean
also with dark iron shaman, they cant.
rich ocean
btw i know people like the kultiran one but
tropic trail
what about dark iron shamans?
rich ocean
i feel like the zandalar ones are WAY better
wheat elm
I'd like to see the zandalari aqua form
rich ocean
like the kultiran are just "bear but whicker" while the zandalar are literaly completly differant dinosaurs!
wheat elm
And kultiran moonkin
tropic trail
I hope the flight form looks like the undead ravens from the Broken Isles
wheat elm
I know they would never do it but I'd love that we could get different colours for our spells
Like paladin tauren would have more orange light and zandalari smth like that aswell
tropic trail
like death lookin magic for kul tiran humans?
hollow dock
I'd like the same. if the spells weren't going to get changed in the future.
otherwise its just extra work. especially since player spells are used for bosses and vice versa.
tropic trail
I don't think Zandalari Paladins are happening btw
They can be druids and shamans
Why paladins too?
hollow dock
I personally don't think so but hey. ya never know.
Dark Iron and normal Dwarves can be shamans and paladins. So /shrug
wheat elm
Well ion hinted at the possibility
hollow dock
Anything is possible.
Heck he even said certain allied races are possible in the future.
tropic trail
I'm happy Dark Iron Dwarf Shamans are a thing, wouldn't have made any sense without them.
hollow dock
to each their own on that. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
wheat elm
I think they wouldn't put lore reasons so we can't have zandalari just to mess with us
hollow dock
same. But rezan does get rezzed so. 🤷
tropic trail
Zandalari Trolls and Kul Tiran Humans are so amazing, puts the other allied races to shame.
Except maybe Dark Iron Dwarves and Nightborne
wheat elm
@hollow dock does he?
rich ocean
Ryswell.
hollow dock
Yup
wheat elm
When
rich ocean
Tauren can be druids, shaman, and paladin.
hollow dock
Later on in the campaign
rich ocean
Why cant zandalari?
hollow dock
@dense plover knows more about it than I. I hardly pay attention to the horde stuff.
tropic trail
Yeah but Tauren miss out on other classes which most races have
Like rogues
mages
hollow dock
Indeed it is
which is why people say it's possible and that is why Ion said it's possible
We just don't know of anything past that event
rich ocean
Rezan gets rezzed i nthe quest where you unlock the zandalari race
hollow dock
Yea.
rich ocean
you rez him and cleanse him of rthe blood corruption
hollow dock
Well yea cataclysm showed that
wheat elm
By putting its soul into a new body
hollow dock
With Malfurion raising Cenarius and Malorne
wheat elm
So you put torga soul into a baby turtle
tropic trail
I would be okay with Zandalari Trolls being Paladins
As long as Kul Tiran Humans get to be Shamans
rich ocean
You can ressurect a loa by putting its soul into a new body.
wheat elm
Which doesn't seem unlike
rich ocean
So we put Vol'jin's soul in a trex body... Trex warchief!!!
wheat elm
Unlikely *
hollow dock
But would vol'jin want to bein that body
Id rather be in my own body and then morph into a Trex at will
rich ocean
Implying anyone wouldnt want to be a fucking trex?
Aparently "Loa cant change their apperance" so...
tropic trail
Will normal trolls get a straight back option?
wheat elm
@tropic trail i dont remember the zone in kultiras but one of them is pretty much tied to shamanism
They said nope
wheat elm
Its a characteristic of thr darkspear
hollow dock
Yea sadly.
rich ocean
Yeah unlike the orcs there isnt a skin colour difference, there is also a specific reason for them to not be straight back.
The maghar and the normal orcs are mixed, while the zandalar and darkspear are very differant, woulda been nice but wouldnt have quite worked out, specially since the darkspear trolls woulda been HUGE if they stood up straight
tropic trail
Zandalari Master Race
wheat elm
well the zandalari models are as tall as a straight darkspear
tropic trail
I would have rather Amani trolls though
wheat elm
and in lore they are suposed to tower over tauren
hollow dock
even when Vol'jin straightened his back a zandalari woman towered over him
rich ocean
Interesting, did not know either of those.
tropic trail
so are zandalari models going to depict that?
hollow dock
NOPE
tropic trail
All hopes of a vrykul allied race
rich ocean
But serious, T-Rex Voljin for Warchief year 35 lets go bois.
hollow dock
if we do get em
tropic trail
have been destroyed
hollow dock
they wont be larger than tauren
hollow dock
ye
rich ocean
This thing leading the horde? I would faction change
tropic trail
Zandalari Trolls are a 10/10 allied race
hollow dock
I still wont faction change
tropic trail
only thing I dont like
tropic trail
is that the mount doesnt match the armor
hollow dock
I oves me some Lovecraft and Wiccan themes <3
hollow dock
Nah. they're just overgrown lizards
rich ocean
wheat elm
our lord and savior rezan
tropic trail
I know
wheat elm
loa of kings
tropic trail
Im talking about their mount doesnt match their armor
wheat elm
im here for rezan propaganda XD
dense plover
@rich ocean loa that are wild gods like rezan can be resurrected as soon as a body which shares a similar form is available
tropic trail
I really like Kul Tiran Humans and Zandalari Trolls
I hope allied races after that
are just as good, if not better
rich ocean
A similar form? Where is this confirmed?
rich ocean
But... Mandokar was not a wild god
hollow dock
(Cenarius, Malorne, Goldrinn, )
(etc)
(we go on a rezzing spree of the wild gods in hyjal)
wheat elm
i believe it is confirmed that the loa are similar to wild gods but a bit different
just in terms that