beta-ptr-spoilers

[sharp bluff]

0:10

[dense plover]

but it also says leader of zandalar

[sharp bluff]

so either he talks to both

[dense plover]

so maybe rastakhan dies?

[sharp bluff]

or one dies

[dense plover]

i doubt he dies

[sharp bluff]

ya sounds like it

maybe steps down?

do troll kings step down?

[dense plover]

anyone can

he might retire

[sharp bluff]

true enough

[dense plover]

or put her in charge and remain as an advisor

[sharp bluff]

I could see that happening

This is getting interesting

Best comment on that video though

Loa´Jin....Loa of Warchiefs and The Horde...

[dense plover]

i hope they dont kill him

[strange falcon]

he's already ded tho

[dense plover]

they had the chance to have zul kill him and they decided against it

[sharp bluff]

he might step down after seeing his daughter is doing a better job then him

[dense plover]

yeah thats what i think

i think he realizes how bad of a leader he has been

and how much the horde saved them

all thanks to his daughter

who tried to warn him

[sharp bluff]

I would be fine with this

[dense plover]

its the only way im okay with it

if he dies in some dumb way instead of to zul, ill be disappointed

because deciding to kill him and then not kill him and then kill him is fucking idiotic

[sharp bluff]

I would say old age, but ya killing him now makes little sense, I'll say step down

[dense plover]

old age is even shittier

hes motherfucking Rastakhan!

[sharp bluff]

lmao, yes

oh this might be a reason peach

He was blessed by the loa Rezan with a long life, swift healing, and strength beyond most trolls

with Rezan temporary dead

he will be significantly weakened

[tawny tree]

Anyone seen a treehouse in Drustvar?

[dense plover]

havent done much drustvar exploration

its pretty

[sharp bluff]

found it peach, it is old age

Without his power keeping Bwonsamdi at bay, Rastakhan began aging fast.[7

[dense plover]

link plz?

[sharp bluff]

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Rezan

under history

they don't have it on his page, but they have it on Rezan's

he started aging super fast, so he probably stepped down, or died

[dense plover]

there isnt anything to support that

the quest doesnt mention that

they references the kings gambit

but that quest doesnt mention him aging faster

that quote seems like bullshit

[sharp bluff]

seems like it could be true though, Bwonsamdi holds grudges, we do know that

[karmic copper]

Havent seen any houses in Drustvar

Currently only doing Stormsong

[sharp bluff]

I'll keep looking into it

[dense plover]

yeah it could be

[karmic copper]

I aint even 111 yet

[dense plover]

but the wiki says the quest kings gambit mentions it

but that quest doesnt

[sharp bluff]

Sorry Maylin, i am not in the beta so i can not look

[karmic copper]

Also I wonder why blizzard renamed a subzone of Stormsong from Crestfall to Storms Wake 🤔

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Crestfall

i guess blizzard didnt wanna introduce it yet

or it could still be crestfall but renamed

[pallid crescent]

I wonder when will azeroth become a globe map that you can fly around for no reason

[karmic copper]

renamed to Stormpeak's Watch*

[sharp bluff]

well we havn't even seen half of it i think

at best we may have seen half of Azeroth

at best

[dense plover]

anyone have an account on wowpedia?

that line is just 100% bullshit

theres literally nothing about him aging faster

and it doesnt match up with the whole zandalar finale

[sharp bluff]

ya i can't find anything about it in the quest info

[dense plover]

its 100% bullshit, like i said

[uncut vault]

btw, voljin is talking to talanji

rastakhan had nothing to do with the ghuun stuff, talanji and rokhan found it all out

[dense plover]

yeah i got that

but its telling her to lead her people

that they need a leader

so the question is: what happens with rastakhan?

[sharp bluff]

which is where we are confused on

[uncut vault]

he's dying

[dense plover]

he gets healed

[sharp bluff]

either he steps down, or oddly enough old age

[uncut vault]

no rezan = nobody keeping him alive

[dense plover]

in the zandalar finale he talks about feeling younger than ever

[uncut vault]

and he made a deal with bwonsamdi

[dense plover]

yeah we dont know what that deal is do we?

[sharp bluff]

live longer for more souls? lol

[uncut vault]

we dont, but its likely keeping him alive for long enough to save zandalar

[dense plover]

im imagining he dies before mythraxx breaks the seal or something

and theres going to be an epic cutscene

btw, i spent two hours in boralus yesterday just walking around

finding new nooks and crannies

SO MANY HOLES IN THE WORLD

SO MANY

theres a few in zuldazar

but its not as bad as boralus

it needs like a solid month of work

[uncut vault]

I said it a while back, they definitely did zandalar to beta ready first, and we got boralus coming to release ready over the last few months

now they need to polish zandalar

[dense plover]

yeah

theres a lot of weird alignment issues with stairs and walls and stuff

where some things are uneven

or clip

and way fewer interiors are actually open

and most of them are still pretty empty

there is a map coming though

upper and lower zuldazar city map

probably next build

along with a fix for the boralus city map

[empty mountain]

It would be SO cool if Rastakhan's deal with Bwonsamedi was that Vol'jin is returned to life

[dense plover]

no it wouldnt

that would be awful writing

also, why would he do that?

the deal is likely - let me save zandalar, and you can have my soul

[tulip sun]

I am confpicted if i want rastakhan to pive or not tbh

Conflicted

Love*

Live * e.e

[sharp bluff]

troll on troll? the new hot steamy romance novel?

[tulip sun]

I really like Rastakhan.

[dense plover]

i want him to live tbh

we have barely seen him

he is this bad ass that has many stories to tell

im hoping he just retires

and we get to hear him tell stories

or we get to learn more of his story

[sharp bluff]

knowing Blizz though...

[oak shell]

how do i get a beta key

[tranquil steeple]

Luck

[oak shell]

is there anyone on here giving out keys

[tranquil steeple]

There's a Wowhead giveaway

[oak shell]

how often do they give out keys

[tranquil steeple]

This is the first one, so far: https://www.wowhead.com/news=284375/wowheads-battle-for-azeroth-beta-key-giveaway-week-1 - steps of what to do and everything in the post

[oak shell]

do they email you the key?

[dense plover]

no

it says in the post

they send you a message on wowhead

then you have 14 days to claim it

oh wait

im wrong

"Please allow up to ten (10) days for winners to be finalized and contacted. A winners' list will be posted on the contest page once they're finalized.
If you win, you will receive a site achievement and beta key code emailed from [e-mail] to the address used for Wowhead Registration. Make sure that email is current!"

[plain crescent]

Anyone know if they have some kind of coordinate/location tracker when reporting a bug from ingame? or does anyone know an addon that is working on the beta that can show coordinates?

[uncut vault]

for the beta? They track your location and quest stuff.

[plain crescent]

yee ok thank you, if I for example wanted to report a random hole that makes u fall thru the world and have trouble explaining the exact position

[dense plover]

its automatically tied to your report

if i find a hole i just open the report and say "hole in world"

or "glitchy texture on ground"

or "see through wall"

or "x is broken - it should be this"

[plain crescent]

[dense plover]

report them all

worst case scenario the report sucks

best case scenario, you help solve world holes which are the fucking worst

boralus has so many

i probably reported 20 just in the area around proudmoore academy last night

theres some super broken shit there

[plain crescent]

yeah ur right, good shit

[uncut vault]

the end of tiragarde has some hilarious bugs

[meager warren]

even if it's just the texture and it says "WIP," reporting it doesn't not do anything

[uncut vault]

like the ashvane pursuit quest still having the horse run along the old path up to the keep

so you run and just fall through the world on a horse

[dense plover]

its not WIP textures

its things like literal holes in the world

walls you can walk through

misaligned walls you can walk behind or inside of

[oak wraith]

At one point I thought "oh, a cave!" and went through as it was a misaligned bottom end of a wall + some terrain that made it look cave-like. It was a loooong way down (to the kill-level)

(looked it up again and reported it from a little bit away)

[dense plover]

always get as close as you can

it gives your coordinates

[meager warren]

remember that idiot that refused to report it, peach?

[dense plover]

so if you can stand right next to it and provide a cardinal direction, or stand in it if its a weird thing

theres lots of idiots that dont report

i was running a dungeon and reporting bugs

and the thing didnt pop up to report bugs with the boss

and the guy was like "i cant"

theres a big fucking report bug button

some people

[meager warren]

rip

i feel like blizz should give out beta keys only to specific people

[dense plover]

then people would complain

[meager warren]

instead of doing random giveaways and shit

[dense plover]

streamers are the real problem

most dont report bugs while streaming

which is fuccking dumb

[meager warren]

tough shit, they're gonna complain either way.
better to at least get something out of it

[dense plover]

report a bug when you see it

[worn rune]

Publicity > bugs probably

[dense plover]

running a dungeon? report!

fighting a boss? Report!

talking to twitch chat? report!

[meager warren]

^

i agree 100%

on all those

[dense plover]

too busy saying something dumb and reading off subs to type into a box? go fuck yourself!

[meager warren]

^

[dense plover]

the streamers where they see a bug and keep going

blizz should just not give them a key next time

make them wait until beta

and when they ask why tell them straight to their face that they arent doing their part to report bugs

[meager warren]

they still have a chance to get them in random giveaways or when the bots give them out (I assume blizz has bots to give them out anyway)

could probably report the people that aren't reporting bugs

idk if blizz will do anything but

[wild pewter]

PTR update 😮

[karmic copper]

I guess theyre preparing the prepatch thing on ptr

[hollow dock]

hypu

[tulip sun]

Like being released?

[dense plover]

dont think its an actual ptr update

its a new live build

[sharp bluff]

I wonder if the mounts are prepatch

[dense plover]

but ptr is being matched

which hasnt happened for a while

its moreso showing that they are preparing ptr for access

[hollow dock]

They are zep

as the scenarios

are prepatch

=D

[sharp bluff]

Sweeeeeet

Need me that bat and hippo

[hollow dock]

Dont care for the bat

[sharp bluff]

Gryph

[hollow dock]

I havemy dog-bats

And theyre the bestest most beautiful good boys out of all the heckin doggo bats

[sharp bluff]

Lol

Argus ones?

[hollow dock]

ye

Looted in the same week as I earned the other

[oak wraith]

Hm, funny. The final number of the patched PTR is 26654, Live is 26365, and Beta is 26640. Looks like a later build than the Beta 😄

(but still 7.3.5)

[sharp bluff]

Dang someone slept with Lady Luck

[hollow dock]

Nah

they just dont like being separated c:

[sharp bluff]

Lol

[dense plover]

jeez every time i thibk hippo i keep thinking of the actual hippo

but people mean the hippogryph

[hollow dock]

yea the hippo

c:

[dense plover]

but theres the war hippo

its literally a hippo

and its alliance

[hollow dock]

Yup

[dense plover]

its confusing

[hollow dock]

but there's also the non-war hippo

[sharp bluff]

Kul tiran mount

[hollow dock]

that's also a hippo. but not a hippo.

KUL

TIT

AN

LOL

[dense plover]

shakes head

[sharp bluff]

iPhone typos suck

Do we know Kul tiran racial mount yet anyways?

[hollow dock]

Nope!

[sharp bluff]

It could be the hippo then

[hollow dock]

We know very little about Kul tirans

[karmic copper]

Unlikely

Only seen those hippos in Zandalar

[sharp bluff]

Hippos would fit them

Fat horses of the water

[hollow dock]

CUZ THEYRE FAT

GET IT

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[sharp bluff]

Better then another horse lol

[hollow dock]

CUZ THEYRE FAT

ORIGINAL JOKE

[sharp bluff]

Ok?

[meager warren]

http://prntscr.com/jjpjmg
it's sad that they had to say this

[hollow dock]

Dude people can't get it throught heir thick skulls

[meager warren]

i know

and that's fucking sad

people are dumb

[hollow dock]

Yes they are. Welcome to my life

[meager warren]

also, source for image:
https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/16/17357534/wow-battle-for-azeroth-timeline-draenor

also, it seems like WoD, because of our having saved it, is similar to the storyline in the Age of Ultron comic

in that, it didn't get better. It's just as bad

[hollow dock]

Alright there's the character limit increase

18 per realm!

[terse patrol]

ye more slots

[meager warren]

much hype

[sharp bluff]

Nice

Now if only we could get 3 more next time instead of 2 lol

[terse patrol]

now give us the prepatch already

[meager warren]

how many new races do we have?

[terse patrol]

by all accounts, we'll have one for each race minus pandaren

[meager warren]

oh no :c

poor pandaren

[terse patrol]

blizz doesnt want to do more neutral races

because it probably makes things difficult for them technically

[meager warren]

blizz doesn't want to do anything fun

it makes things difficult in the publicity sense because people hate pandas

[terse patrol]

thats why tortollans wont be a thing

they're too memey

[sharp bluff]

Atm we hav 17 races

[rich apex]

Everyone knows Ion hates fun

[sharp bluff]

16 slots

[rich apex]

That's why he's big boss for a video game

[terse patrol]

"haha turtle people who sound like they're all 80 something who like to tell stories"

[rich apex]

Pay no mind to the silliness of neutral races in the faction war expansion

[sharp bluff]

One less slot then we have races

[tulip sun]

That males no sense

Makes

[terse patrol]

I'm pretty sure they added a slot when they added pandaren

[sharp bluff]

That was for monk

I think

12 slots = 12 classes=/= 13 races, at start of legion

[uncut vault]

https://gyazo.com/f8b603dd949f5a84bd3ce77430a0d253

[tropic trail]

im still waiting for a fucking naga race since BC

thanks blizzort

[strange falcon]

naga are not happening ever because no legs

closest you'll maybe get is sethrak

and they arent even confirmed

[tropic trail]

it can be done blizzard can't see the profit in a naga class we all know how this works

[uncut vault]

https://gyazo.com/b82ad573197945ce079a207d294bc6d0

[tropic trail]

You know what class we need in wow.

what ?

[ruby star]

Bard

[tropic trail]

Okay two classes we need.

would love to see a bard

But yes Bard would be dope.

anything original in terms of classes

I could totally see a Bard having 3 specs.

Taunting people with songs

Buffing people with songs.

And attacking people with songs.

whispering sweet sweet vicious mockery to do damage into their ears

Yes, that would be beautiful.. .And I honestly forgot what I was gonna say

we need naga's ever since 2005

13 years later we still need naga's

Eh, I diont know, I need races I can see their like boots and stuff.

[strange falcon]

nagas are never going to happen because no feet

if they ever come out

screenshot this

[tropic trail]

like i said it can be done

if only they tried

because they have no feet it can be fun

something different and all that

a deviation from the normal bipedal path

[strange falcon]

it would take too much work from blizz

and they are nope-ing right out of there

[tropic trail]

they have all the money to do it

and the staff

[strange falcon]

yea,but the problem is that they dont WANT to do it

[tropic trail]

exactly

[strange falcon]

because it requires probably some engine breaking shenanigans

they have to redo every single mount in the game

all quests that put you on a mount

all gear

[tropic trail]

it would take some work on their part but certainly up for a try imo

[strange falcon]

"some work"

[tropic trail]

"sarcasm"

[strange falcon]

you clearly dont understand the ramifications of a race with no legs

[tropic trail]

if only they tried

so much could be achieved

[mortal pewter]

don't you think they probably tried already?

[tropic trail]

i think they didn't try hard enough

gave up half way

[strange falcon]

just thinking about it,is like looking into the grand canyon chasm

[tropic trail]

that's the blizzard way

[mortal pewter]

omg here we go.....

[tropic trail]

😃

[hollow dock]

I mean

guys

look at the name

they're a fuckin weeb

and you're taking him seriously

[strange falcon]

if you are not a game developer,or programmer you cannot understand what GIGANTIC problems a race with no legs in a game,where it's literally coded to only work with 2legged races

[tropic trail]

is that your response lol ?

i thought you were gonna say that

[strange falcon]

they would have to rework at least half the code or more

[tropic trail]

i take it your a developer then lol

[hollow dock]

I mean. Are you to say it just takes some more work than average to just recode a game from the ground up?

[strange falcon]

yes,my brother is a developer,and we live together so i feel like i have a good understanding

of development

and ramifications

[tropic trail]

your brother is

[hollow dock]

Hell you dont even need to be a dev yourself

you can -talk-

to devs

everywhere.

Get the insight required on just how much work is required for such projects

[tropic trail]

talking about new things is scary i know guys no need to get so defensive about it haha

[strange falcon]

it's not "new things"

[tropic trail]

oh it's not ?

oh ok

[hollow dock]

We're not. You're playing it off like the WoW dev team is lazy

[strange falcon]

it's quite radical almost impossible without massive changes

to the entirety of the goddamn game

[hollow dock]

When you look at the past 14 years of development they clearly aren't

so you come off as painfully ignorant

[tropic trail]

you might think that yeah i understand

[hollow dock]

You have just said that the team is lazy and bails halfway through. that it's their way.

[tropic trail]

they are lazy

[mortal pewter]

no they are not

[hollow dock]

So yes I will think that you are just painfully ignorant

[tropic trail]

hahaha

[hollow dock]

Maybe even blissfully

[tropic trail]

i don't care

[hollow dock]

If you don't, then you would stop typing.

[strange falcon]

let me try to explain to you

in more simple terms

[tropic trail]

i don't care about what you think about me i do care about some changes to the game though

[strange falcon]

think of the game itself as a house of cards

it's specifically made to support 2 leg playable races

if you try to alter the code too much

the house of cards crumbles

[tropic trail]

i lost you

can you start over please

[mortal pewter]

maybe we should use crayons

[tropic trail]

yes

that might work

[dense plover]

jesus

just block this troll

[strange falcon]

as a resident troll myself

this is 0/10 quality trolling

[mortal pewter]

ty Mr Peach

[hollow dock]

I mean you are falling for hte bait

[tropic trail]

thank you i didn't know i was trolling

[dense plover]

just block him

ends everything

[high crag]

What are you guys talking about? I can see messages from vris responding to someone... everyones is blocked

[hollow dock]

wait

[strange falcon]

xD

[hollow dock]

you blocked everyone

BUT

me?

Shit I did the wrong job

[tropic trail]

lovely lol

[strange falcon]

he likes you vris

[high crag]

I like you, ultimate trolls dont get blocked

[dense plover]

well thats a mistake

[mortal pewter]

what did i ever do to pnau

[dense plover]

vris isnt an ultimate troll

[hollow dock]

Ikr peach?

[dense plover]

ultimate trolls would never be serious

or actually know what they are talking about

[hollow dock]

absolutely

[high crag]

Vris is serious?

[tropic trail]

ikr

[hollow dock]

Am I?

[dense plover]

or actually participate in the conversation

[high crag]

He knows what he is talking about?

[dense plover]

i mean

we make theories that are actually possible

[tropic trail]

real trolls aren't serious never ever

[dense plover]

and actually know lore

so id say neither of us are trolls

[hollow dock]

And then I just shitpost.

[high crag]

Im just fucking with you though, vris doesnt believe in the troll master race

Elves here, elves there

[hollow dock]

Elves are the master race

tyvm

jsyn

[tropic trail]

People who claim to be trolls aren't trolls. It's just called being Ignorant.

[high crag]

Look at my profile pic though, blood knight ftw

[hollow dock]

what if their ignorance is so high that they believe theyre actually trolling?

[uncut vault]

vris is basically an elf

[hollow dock]

🤔 🤔 🤔

[uncut vault]

an evolved troll

[tropic trail]

Basically same thing more or less Vris.

[dense plover]

lol

[high crag]

Mutant troll

[dense plover]

thats a decent joke

[hollow dock]

the best mutant trolls

[tropic trail]

im talking about naga's being implemented into the game and clearly that makes me ignorant lol 😮

[hollow dock]

Oh that'll never happen.

[high crag]

It would never happen

[dense plover]

nope wont happen

[hollow dock]

Not without either a rework to naga themselves

or

[dense plover]

they got no legs

[hollow dock]

a rework to the entire game

[high crag]

Indeed

[dense plover]

also, theyre villains, and also, if they were added it wouldnt be an allied race

[hollow dock]

and I dont see either happening at anytime soon.

[dense plover]

full race only

[hollow dock]

To be fair peach

[tropic trail]

i'd say your too stuck in your way of thinking

[hollow dock]

the Iron Horde were 'villains'

sorta

theyre an allied race now

[dense plover]

id say you havent read most lore

they were sort of the villains

[strange falcon]

let me put it to even simpler terms @tropic trail saying naga playable is like saying "can wow have super realistic graphics like modern games?" surely it can,but how much work do you have to put to make it possible

[dense plover]

but its also been 30 years for those orcs

[tropic trail]

and anything creatively different that comes along is "scary" and has to be brushed off with word like "ignorance" and such

pretty typical

[hollow dock]

Well that is true

[dense plover]

timeschange.jpg

[hollow dock]

Well nothing to say the naga can't go through the same. 🤷

[wild pewter]

Naga would be cool but unlikely 😄

[dense plover]

yeah im all for naga

[hollow dock]

Hell we pulled an entire allied race straight from our butts

[dense plover]

we are just realistic

we arent scared

[hollow dock]

so anythings possible

[high crag]

Snek happened, they have legs for some reason though. So...

[strange falcon]

we know the facts,the current situation,how the game is coded,unless a major rework to naga happens

[dense plover]

insulting people is the first step of a person who fails to accept being rebuked

[sullen dagger]

velfs?=

[strange falcon]

they are impossible

[hollow dock]

yup

[dense plover]

pretty much what dafire said

theyre not even close to a state where they would work as a race

[sullen dagger]

i dont think naga will happen

[hollow dock]

We pulled void elves out of thin air so tbh

Anything is possible

[wild pewter]

I wonder if Allied races will just be a THIS expac feature or actually go on into the future.

[sullen dagger]

mainly cause they has no legs, and that's too much work to redo all the old models for them

[high crag]

It will go on

[hollow dock]

They stated at blizzcon that if its successful

[dense plover]

yeah but void elves are just reskinned blood elves

[high crag]

No doubt

[hollow dock]

it'll go on

and this is VERY successful so far

[dense plover]

they dont need to add weird legs

naga wwith legs would suck

[uncut vault]

in some weird news

[high crag]

They have alot of possbible allied races in the works

[uncut vault]

the head turn stuff from 7.2 got more added to it

[hollow dock]

like the sneks

[uncut vault]

https://gyazo.com/f90488fa638455f1013e9719fe576cd7

whole torso now turns

[rigid furnace]

Need expansion hype? Add in races that look cool. Easy, Simple.

[high crag]

Sneeeek

[dense plover]

id place bets on taunka and tuskarr before naga

[sullen dagger]

tbh a little starter zone would have been neato for the allied races, with mobs 1-20 or so

[hollow dock]

but not the waste

waist*

god that's going to be creepy

[tropic trail]

looks perfectly normal lol

[hollow dock]

you turn your torso without moving your waist?

[wild pewter]

Just makes me wonder what allied races they have planned!

[sullen dagger]

HIGH ELVES

[tropic trail]

yes don't you ?

[strange falcon]

like,i believe void elves were a compromise for highelves that dont look identical to Belves

i think the sethrak

are the same

for the naga

[sullen dagger]

WE NEED HIGH ELVES

[uncut vault]

https://gyazo.com/6a263ede0ed8ba005ee03e49b73e6946

[hollow dock]

They were supposed to Dafire

but it backfired

horrendously

and instead made the demand even higher

because the arguement of 'to similar a model'

no longer exists

[sullen dagger]

HIGHER elvenly

heheh

[dense plover]

ill start pushing for high elves if those same people will push for horde tuskarr

[tropic trail]

oh nice tuskarr

would love to see them ingame

[dense plover]

i mean tuskarr are actually sort of likely

[tropic trail]

as a playable race that is 😉

[dense plover]

they share model similarities with pandaren

[strange falcon]

currently tuskarr have no relevance to the story

[hollow dock]

I'll push for tuskarr to not be of pandaren

[strange falcon]

tortollans are more likely than them

[hollow dock]

but full fledged race

[strange falcon]

really

[dense plover]

oh i would love them full fledged

[hollow dock]

of allied race

not pandaren

[dense plover]

especially if we go back to northrend

[hollow dock]

why did I type that

[sullen dagger]

tuskarr will be like the nagas

[hollow dock]

Nah. Tuskarr have legs

so they can work

[dense plover]

tuskarr are way more likely than tortollan

they have normal body shapes

[sullen dagger]

anythiong that dont ressemble a skeleton and meshes in the game with sets etc, wont be happening

[hollow dock]

I advocate for people to play whatever the heck it is they want tbh

[dense plover]

not big shells

[hollow dock]

Pandaren

[uncut vault]

I mean, in terms of BfA tuskarr could be very relevant if they want them to be

[hollow dock]

You can alter them to be more like the Pandaren and bam

[sullen dagger]

huh that could work

[uncut vault]

their kraken goddess is basically the same as the tidemother

[dense plover]

yeah thats what im saying

tuskarr as a pandaren allied race

[sullen dagger]

but what would be the appeal?

[hollow dock]

So yes Peach, I fully support this idea. Would prefer it to be a full fledged race, but if the allied race fits

then it fits

tog o play a walrus person

[dense plover]

appeal?

[hollow dock]

the hecks yoru appeal to go play a cow man

other than

[dense plover]

native american race that isnt tauren

[hollow dock]

playing a cow man

[dense plover]

also, we could always use more animal people

[tropic trail]

i want an actual playable cow ingame

[rigid furnace]

If it would be a pandaren allied race, then the question comes would it be an independent race as well. Unless each pandaren side brings their own race.

[dense plover]

no

they dont want to do neutral races

[ruby star]

I'd love High Elves,Wildhammer,Broken,Vkyrul for alliance

[sullen dagger]

yeah, horde aore pretty weird people

[tropic trail]

true haha

[sullen dagger]

and now forsaken (not really now) lightforged

[strange falcon]

wildhammer were confirmed to not be in bfa at least

[sullen dagger]

OH THE GLEE

THE BILIS FROM THE HORDE

[rigid furnace]

Yeah, the having 3 factions for 1 race issue soured them on it pretty harshly.

all the hoops and hurdles too.

[dense plover]

wildhammer could happen

but not so soon following the dark iron

[sullen dagger]

i dont know how blizz gonna pull the forsaken

[dense plover]

sanlayn

[hollow dock]

calia

[sullen dagger]

yep

[dense plover]

or that

[ruby star]

We can guess they have allird races planned for 8.2 and 8.3 as they said in interview thay have tgem planned out HOWEVER thing could changr after whag they learned

[sullen dagger]

all the manathil messes things

[dense plover]

sanlayn seem likely since they would be horde alt blood elves but also undead

[sullen dagger]

menethil?

[dense plover]

and theyre already in the story

but we probably wont know until at least 8.1 if not 8.2 when we find out via datamining

[terse patrol]

hurrgh

[sullen dagger]

it's kinda sad that we are still 2 monts rom the xpac and we know a shitton of things

[terse patrol]

prepatch when...

[rigid furnace]

If alliance got a 2nd elf allied race to pair off against San'layn and it COULDN'T be High Elves what could they have?

[terse patrol]

junker gnomes

[sullen dagger]

LIOGHTFORGED ELVES

[uncut vault]

assuming BfA has the same patch numbers as legion, my guess is, after KT and zanda in 8.1, we get sanlayn and their counterpart in 8.2, and vulpera and sethrak in 8.3

[sullen dagger]

clearly

obviously

[ruby star]

It would be High elves

[sullen dagger]

nonononono

lightforged elves

i see it now

I'VE SEEN THE LIGHT

[uncut vault]

I think a realistic counterpart is junker gnomes

[dense plover]

yeah sethrakk need a shitton of work

also yeah

junker gnomes are heavily hinted

[ruby star]

San'alyn and High Elves would be best cojnternparts

[dense plover]

no they wouldnt

[uncut vault]

if only because theyre being set up alongside sanlayn

[dense plover]

thats two types of blood elves

thats stupid

[terse patrol]

Let me let you in on a secret

[dense plover]

also, you can make more sanlayn

but you cant make more high elves

[terse patrol]

Blizzard is doing an allied race for each base race.

[uncut vault]

even though I dont think high elves are out of the question, I dont think theyll add another two at the same time

[sullen dagger]

but honestly, i'd guess sanlayan - vikings

[terse patrol]

All that's left for them to do are Undead, Gnomes, Worgen, and Goblins.

[uncut vault]

Id rather they save high elves for the Quel'thalas conflict we basically know is happening anyways

[sullen dagger]

the night elves worgen would bea neato

[uncut vault]

actually have it tie into the story well

[hollow dock]

Why

Why would they be cool

they're literally night elves

who shapeshift into normal worgen

[terse patrol]

I dont want Night Elf Worgen.

[sullen dagger]

but the forbidden form

[dense plover]

yeah we dont need more worgens

[terse patrol]

I want Sethrak.

[polar geode]

ewww nelf worgens... gtfo

[dense plover]

we need og worgens fixed

[rich apex]

(night elves you won't ever see because worgen are locked in combat)

[hollow dock]

Forbidden form IS worgen

[rich apex]

(so you're just playing a worgen)

[hollow dock]

^

[strange falcon]

night elf worgen is the worst allied race

[dense plover]

^

[sullen dagger]

hm

[strange falcon]

ever

[sullen dagger]

that kinda backfired

[ruby star]

High elves and wildhammer make thr most sense for thr alliance

[strange falcon]

IT'S NOT EVEN A RECOLOR

[terse patrol]

dude

[rigid furnace]

I have the feeling Majordomo Staghelm laughs at the burning of Teldrassil from beyond the grave.

[dense plover]

drorith

[terse patrol]

Get this through your skull.

[sullen dagger]

it wont happen the high elves

[dense plover]

stop arguing the same point

plz

they said no high elves

[sullen dagger]

we will get lightforged high elves

[dense plover]

and no wildhammer

[terse patrol]

You are not getting High Elves until all the other races have an allied race attached to them.

[dense plover]

they wont do two types of blood elves and two types of dwarves

[terse patrol]

And you might not get them even then

[dense plover]

that would suck

[ruby star]

Lmao

[hollow dock]

We wouldn't want em now

but we want them evetually

[sullen dagger]

the wildhammer i guess they should add the tatoos and racial stuff to the dwarves

[hollow dock]

hell we can give you horde Forest Trolls

[uncut vault]

theyre both in the "possible in the future" category

[sullen dagger]

like they did with the mag'ar rocs

[hollow dock]

at the same time

[polar geode]

Honestly there really isnt any realistic sub-class for worgens and I honestly hope it stays that way. I have been maining a worgen since they came out and i dont want Blizz to ruin them with some dumb allied race.

[hollow dock]

as we get HIgh elves

[terse patrol]

Here's my guess as to what's coming: Junker Gnomes, San'layn, Vulpera, and Sethrak (they need a lot of work.)

[deft escarp]

High Elves or riot

[sullen dagger]

the redo of the worgens is a must, imho

[terse patrol]

So, I suspect Vulpera and Sethrak are end of expansion.

[sullen dagger]

they look horrible, specially the female model

[uncut vault]

while I don't think theyll save em, I still wish that theyd save them for the upcoming QT stuff, have forest trolls, wildhammer, undead elves and high elves all involved in a northern lordaeron conflict

[polar geode]

y'all should know by now Blizz is never giving us high elves

[sullen dagger]

nonono

[ruby star]

Stuff can change DRASTICLY after intervieews and q&as soo

[sullen dagger]

high elves are dead, long live to the lightforged high elves

[uncut vault]

if you want good looking furries, the vulpera are there waiting for you

[terse patrol]

^

[strange falcon]

that's savage

porter

[dense plover]

vulpera look fine

[terse patrol]

I already got the name Ratchet reserved.

[ruby star]

Furries are abominations

[dense plover]

like ive played through voldun twice

its a great zone

[polar geode]

If you want furries go play Wilddstar 😉

[dense plover]

best desert in wow

by a lot

[strange falcon]

^

[dense plover]

i cant wait for the music

[terse patrol]

people who won't stop ranting about high elves are an abomination.

[ruby star]

When I make my High Elf, I'm gonna have Vulpera carpets

[dense plover]

thats fucked up

[sullen dagger]

savage

[polar geode]

lol

[terse patrol]

Look, I want high elves, but we've been waiting years. We can wait longer.

[dense plover]

skinning a sentient ccreature?

that isnt a centaur?

[strange falcon]

damn

you give horde sh*t

and then you skin sentient creatures

wow

[ruby star]

We shouldn't have to wait Longer thougj Honk

[sullen dagger]

eh, but genn is a good boi

[uncut vault]

Eh at this point I want to wait longer

[ruby star]

Any furry playable race should be made into carpets

[sullen dagger]

also, f*ck sylvannas sideways

[uncut vault]

have them come after the QT fighting

[polar geode]

giggity 😉

[dense plover]

genn isnt a good boi though. he went directly against his kings orders

[ruby star]

I mean Alleria and Umbric both wanna take back silvermoon

[dense plover]

and almost got himself killed

i dont even know if you can cure black arrows

[uncut vault]

yeah thats what I mean, do that story and either have them lose or win the fight for silvermoon

[dense plover]

i wouldnt be surprised if that poison arrow ever comes back to bite him like iron man

with like a toxic festering wound

[sullen dagger]

well see

[terse patrol]

peach

[dense plover]

it would be interesting for that event to actually have a consequence

[uncut vault]

one thing's for sure, sylvanas will use genn's bones whenever he dies

[terse patrol]

genn is a good boy, read the book leaks

[sullen dagger]

but after the reading time i had for seconds, genn has stepped up quite a few staris to the good

[terse patrol]

He is a good boy who learned.

[dense plover]

you cant raise a worgen though

i wont read the books until its out

we dont know if those leaked pages havent been changed

[uncut vault]

cant raise em as forsaken

[sullen dagger]

those aint leaked pages

[uncut vault]

can raise anyones bones as just a mindless servant

[sullen dagger]

it's a preview on amazon

[dense plover]

theyre from amazon

but they could be old

they couldve changed the whole thing

[sullen dagger]

x for doubt

[terse patrol]

Doubtful

[uncut vault]

nah theyre real

[dense plover]

its happened before

[uncut vault]

I asked Christie Golden about it on twitter

[dense plover]

there were chronicle preview pages that were changed

[uncut vault]

theyre real and she's no longer recommending amazon on her twitter for preorder

[dense plover]

i still want the entire story though

[uncut vault]

Im still lucky enough that I only know one single detail

so Im more intrigued for the book

[tulip sun]

So amazon dun fked up

I mean, i would be mad ig they spoiled half the novel too that i wrote

Everyone is freaking out even though we dont know the meat of the story

[uncut vault]

from what ive seen, they dont explain the stuff thats actually important to BfA in the epilogue

IE all the azerite stuff with gallywix and the priests

[sullen dagger]

well see

[uncut vault]

so far the calia stuff is completely irrelevant to BfA

[sullen dagger]

i wanna read the whole thing

[tulip sun]

The calia stuff at the end is just setting up for future plots

It is suppose to be a novel about the end of legion to the prepatch

I think it sets it up decent. I totally see why sylvanas would attack the qlliance amd the horde following her willingly

[sullen dagger]

nonono

[tulip sun]

But i gotta say i love the horde book version of the epulogue, lol. Horde pandaren dancing

[sullen dagger]

the main flock was returning to her

only some of them tried to run for it

[tropic trail]

I wish Sylvanas would handle me like she handles her bow.

[sullen dagger]

and she killed all of them cuase "hope is adisease"

[tulip sun]

Oma, but they hesitated.

[sullen dagger]

cause*

[tulip sun]

They returned likely out pf ear

[sullen dagger]

huh when she blowed

[tulip sun]

Of fear

[sullen dagger]

the horn, i mean

[tulip sun]

Not loyalty

She is not stupid.

[sullen dagger]

but that's kinda what she's expecting, rule by fear

[tulip sun]

She was betrayed before, and if they stayed out there that long, with calia and others running

[sullen dagger]

afaik the whole thing went like this

[tulip sun]

And no, she is not. She expects loyalty.

[sullen dagger]

1. undead and living family unite in the plains and each side in a "fortress"

[tulip sun]

It is even canon that if serving her willingly and loyally after many uears, all you need to do is ask

[sullen dagger]

2. some reunite and are happy, some part

3. seeing a copule that are wandering thru the allianceside, she blows the hron trhice to call the reunion over

4. almos all of them go back, even the apothecary and the brother of the inn

5. some of them decide to try and go for the aliance for protection cause they wanna try living together

[tulip sun]

It doesnt matter what they were doing. They were outside still when the defecting began. They will be painted traitors, which i do not completely argue against.

[sullen dagger]

6. menethil is discovered and she yells to run for it at the undeads and sylvannas gives the order to attack

cause she was hidden till now as a random priest

dude that was a bloodbath

[tropic trail]

Moist.

[sullen dagger]

an unnecesary bloodbath

[tulip sun]

Not particularly

[sullen dagger]

how so?

[tulip sun]

All forsaken there were members of the desolate council

[sullen dagger]

all of them?

i know the apthecay was

[tulip sun]

Yes

All of them

[sullen dagger]

hm

i dunno man, well see

still i think that was a disaster

[tulip sun]

I qould get the evidence

Tag me later

Got a phone call, emergency

[sullen dagger]

np

[tropic trail]

War,War never changes.

[umbral fiber]

Calia, a light forged forsaken/undead... is that like, mixing Necromantic Energy with Light Energy? Does Calia feel like how they describe Forsaken priests handling light energy? ie: HOLY MOLY THIS STUFF BURNS OW OW OW! ???

[uncut vault]

Most likely, but she probably learned how to control it from her teacher

IE the only official self controlled undead who uses the light

[terse patrol]

No.

As said in the book

There is no darkness in her.

[umbral fiber]

oh

[terse patrol]

The pain caused by Light energy is due to the fact the Forsaken are raised via necromancy/shadow.

[umbral fiber]

so how is she undead at all and not just resurrected?

[terse patrol]

Well, in D&D, holy undead exist.

My guess is, she fulfills a specific purpose for the Light. She was made undead because the Light wants to bring the Forsaken into the fold.

What better way to show that the Light will accept them, than send them one of their own who is perfectly aligned with the Light?

Faol merely overcomes the pain of his existence when using the Light. She is perfectly in tune with it, it seems.

[sharp bluff]

Even though the like abandoned them so long ago it wants them back

[terse patrol]

the light never abandoned them

Most Forsaken turned from the Light because it caused them pain, or they think the Light didn't protect them from the Plague.

[rich apex]

I mean if a naaru guided Anduin to rez her

They're probably doing things better than the average undead holy priest

[tropic trail]

So it's pretty clear that anyone could be lightforged then?

[rich apex]

In theory

Assuming that Calia's new state -is- lightforging

When it's not specifically said as such

[meager warren]

Every time blizz does something like this i feel like their refusal to nake undead paladins or druids, etc playable is childish

[tropic trail]

or nelf paladins

[meager warren]

^

[candid ginkgo]

Delas Moonfang tells me that NElves should be paladins.

[tropic trail]

I haven't read the preview yet, is calia actually stated to be an undead, or just resurrected?

[sudden oak]

undead

[tropic trail]

whats really the difference when she's a Jesus undead

[primal valve]

MaxtorCoder#3203 has been warned

[uncut vault]

thats not ominous at all.

[tropic trail]

Ugh

Annoying.

[drifting current]

Cruel world (of Warcraft)

[tropic trail]

Just for adding some nice gifs 😩

[elder otter]

...from a sandbox. You're forgetting the relevant part.

[tropic trail]

Who cares? A lot of people post sandbox stuff without telling.

[elder otter]

Obviously we care... but more importantly, Blizzard cares. There are other places you can do that if you wish, as long as it isn't here or on our site.

[tropic trail]

K

[mint arch]

[tropic trail]

🍆

[frigid umbra]

Say no to 2 parts giveaways.. booooo👎

[sullen dagger]

they are betther

[hollow dock]

you just get online and take a screenie o.o

like most class mounts have a pet associated with them

so that's real easy to do

[sullen dagger]

^

[hollow dock]

yea no Im not that selfish

[tranquil steeple]

It would be nice to get, but I'm not that desperate for beta. I'd rather be a nice person and choose one of the others.

[clever ember]

Lol

[wild pewter]

It's just a meme. It's not that deep.

[dawn wolf]

smash that blue botton

[frigid umbra]

I dont have an active sub now.. so no way to do the screenshots... thats why i dont like it. I'm donewith legion. no point in wasting money on the sub until the prepatch

[sage tapir]

well if you have allied races unlocked, you can make one of those and take a screenshot with it

[rustic mountain]

I’m really confused who would even make a meme like that...

[wild pewter]

It's the internet dude.

[karmic copper]

So how is max level content on the beta?

[hollow dock]

buggy. Otherwise, more of the same.

[dense plover]

its fun though

the design of the zones is very different

they are a lot more open than the legion zones

way fewer impassable hills

[karmic copper]

I'm currently leveling my mage to 120

[wild pewter]

I'm surprised how quiet this chat has been

[dawn wolf]

Ugh

The non sub people are here

Great.

[hollow dock]

more glorious smiles for me to repost/steal

[terse patrol]

@hollow dock

[wild pewter]

@dawn wolf What are you even on about? 😄

[dawn wolf]

The people who don’t have a sub, get beta, then come into discords going oh look at me I’m not subbing till BfA launches

But I can still play beta

[dense plover]

jesus

who gives a fuck

you shouldnt

[strange falcon]

hypocritical people

[dense plover]

and if you do, no one wants to hear abbout it

[strange falcon]

pogchamp

[dense plover]

i dont care who gets beta as long as they are reporting bugs, subs or no

[dawn wolf]

Nah it’s just annoying that inactive/banned/unsubbed accounts get beta

There was a post on the reddit of a dude who was perma banned 5 years ago who got beta

[dense plover]

banned people dont

[dawn wolf]

Yeah they do

[dense plover]

then he mustve made a new account

when you are permabanned you cant just buy another license

[dawn wolf]

Nope it was to the email of his banned account

[dense plover]

🙄

[dawn wolf]

It was very weird

[tropic trail]

can't you make multiple accounts with the same email?

[dawn wolf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dense plover]

honestly it doesnt fucking matter

if they report bugs, idgaf

[dawn wolf]

They just won’t play it

So it’s a waste

[dense plover]

it isnt though

any bug reports are helpful

even those people who dont play on live

also, beta isnt going to be up forever

it goes down when the patch goes live

[dawn wolf]

I think you missed what I was trying to say

They just won’t play beta

So it’s a waste

[tropic trail]

we're really not that far from prepatch

[dense plover]

thats why they send thousands of keys in waves

[dawn wolf]

Yeah I think it’s <2 months

[dense plover]

not everyone who gets a key plays

[dawn wolf]

Right?

[dense plover]

they probably have a predictable margin of who will play

part of the beta is also focus group -esque

getting a random selection of players ensures it is representative of the playerbase on live

and ensures feedback is accurate

this includes morons who dont report bugs

cheater, hackers, and asshats

and the average joe

[uncut vault]

Despite them saying its random, they do have markers for testers they want

[dense plover]

ofc

but some of it is random

its based on the content you play

i do fuck loads of world quests

[dawn wolf]

From what I’ve read BfA is pretty much good to ship. Just class tuning and bug fixing to go right?

[uncut vault]

people who just unsub and dont actually test the beta wont get invited again, unless it's in a random wave

[tropic trail]

beta is also used for advertising the expansion, that's why streamers always get beta access, so it makes sense to give some to potential customers that don't have active subs

[dense plover]

which is probably why i got in a build before they started doing wqs

that and i gave decent feedback and bug reports during the leveling changes ptr

[dapper swift]

Found in Stormsong valley

[tropic trail]

rabbit and owl not there?

[dapper swift]

sadly no

[sharp bluff]

oh... derp

now I get it

[uncut vault]

Im more sad about kanga and roo not being there

WoW needs some kangaroo models

[sharp bluff]

agreed

[dapper swift]

i second that

[uncut vault]

Im realizing that it's gonna be really fun to do WoD as a maghar orc

especially as a rogue

[dense plover]

oh god

thats even more confusing than a dk doing burning crusade

you are going 30 years into your own worlds past

[hollow dock]

the story possibilities though!

but srs

imagine

A lightforged doing BC

[dawn wolf]

Just avoid wod

Problem solved

[hollow dock]

you cant

No alternativesto WoD

[dawn wolf]

You can if you have the $$

[hollow dock]

besides WoD leveling was fun

[uncut vault]

WoD leveling was spectacular, its a shame its the fastest stretch of leveling now

[dawn wolf]

Yeah wod levelling was alright, nagrand is always a good zone

I don’t have wod flying lul

[uncut vault]

BC/Wrath leveling takes like four days, I can get through WoD in two or three hours

[dense plover]

or

you can do it in 3 hours using garrison leveling pots

and flying for treasures

no questing needed

[uncut vault]

yeah thats what I mean

[dawn wolf]

I’d go back and get wod flying

[hollow dock]

Or do it in like. 30 minutes if you have a 300% xp pot laying around :p

[dawn wolf]

But there’s not much point

[uncut vault]

not even treasures needed, can just do the bonus objectives

get like 2 levels a zone

[sharp bluff]

WoD flying is worth it the trouble, got mine a few weeks back, don't know how I lived without it

[dense plover]

yep

i got it during WoD