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tulip sun
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Horses

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xD

hollow dock
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GOOD

twin echo
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I need the parrots FFS

hollow dock
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Hunters SHOULD be able to tame all manners of wild creatures

sharp bluff
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have we? I found something in the achievements

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if not the goblins are scaring me

harsh wedge
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@hollow dock Do you count taurens and worgens as wild creatures or not

hollow dock
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No. They're sentient and/or cursed creatures

sharp bluff
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Clever Use of Mechanical Explosives Use a Saronite Bomb on the Lichen King

harsh wedge
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Sad ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

hollow dock
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though back in vanilla you could tame night elves

sharp bluff
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Saronite Bomb

hollow dock
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OH

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LOL

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LOL

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OK

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so

harsh wedge
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Wasnt it the nelves druid in be-

hollow dock
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for those who dont understand it

harsh wedge
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Saronite bomb ?

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Oh god no

hollow dock
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Back in WoTLK

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Saronite bomb was bugged

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and did insane damage to LK

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which is how a guild got the world first kill

twin echo
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in lich king you could get gilneans

hollow dock
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they claimed it wasn't bug abusing it was "Clever use of mechanics"

harsh wedge
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Inb4 WF G'huun with saronite bomb

untold fractal
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and then banned

hollow dock
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and then yea the GMs said "Yea no. You're bug abusing." banned em and re-opened the world first kill

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Im so glad they finally made a reference to that

harsh wedge
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Hunters will have a portable stable ?

hollow dock
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PLEASE LET THAT BE TRUE

sharp bluff
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well this was already predicted
How to Ptrain Your Pterrordax Raise a pterrodax from hatchling to mount at Warbeast Kraal in Zuldazar.

hollow dock
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OH

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that means a return to the uh

twin echo
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chess?

hollow dock
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Winterspring/Ravasaur mounts

untold fractal
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I mean, we can summon any mount we want or pet at a moments notice, I dont see why they cant do that with pets

hollow dock
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man it's about time they did those again

twin echo
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sims playing with the chicken?

uncut vault
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god I love the raising mount questlines

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so happy we're getting one again

harsh wedge
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Found my new staff on every character guys

untold fractal
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you can still get the winterspring/ravasaur mounts yeah?

dense plover
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@hollow dock I fucking told you so

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Battle for Azeroth Pathfinder, Part One (New) Complete the Kul Tiras and Zandalari achievements listed below. Reward: Increased Mount Speed in Kul Tiras and Zandalar. 25 points. Account Wide.

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gotta explore both continents

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and probably both storylines

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you need a character on each faction

sharp bluff
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lol

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well Forsaken DK... who to use as my alliance one...

harsh wedge
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A character on each faction ? That'd sucks for the people in only one faction

untold fractal
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good use of that free token

harsh wedge
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Well, yeah, but if others have already used theirs...

tulip sun
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I mean, it is smart

untold fractal
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shrugs yeah

tulip sun
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To see the whole story

harsh wedge
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NEW 100 Exalted Reputations Raise 100 reputations to Exalted.
Reward: Title Reward: Esteemed
NEW 80 Exalted Reputations Raise 80 reputations to Exalted.
Reward: Title Reward: The Admired

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For those titles it's those achievement

hollow dock
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exploring both continents

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doesn't take two factioned characters

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lol

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and yes Red you can

harsh wedge
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Is it only exploring continents or the quests too ?

untold fractal
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probably gotta complete the quest lines too

hollow dock
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Im highly doubtful they'll be forcing you to do the entire leveling zone of the opposite faction to get flying.

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since they didn't require that in WoD.

harsh wedge
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Yeah I doubt it will

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NEW Honor Level 25 Reach Honor Level 25.
Reward: Title Reward: The Honorable

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NEW Honor Level 200 Reach Honor Level 200.
Reward: Title Reward: Bound by Honor

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NEW Honor Level 300 Reach Honor Level 300.
Reward: Title Reward: The Tactician

sharp bluff
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so, who else will be getting this guy?

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as a pet

tulip sun
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Creature Families
Krolusk (New)
Lizard (New)
Pterrordax (New)
Toad (New)

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Hmm

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Four new families

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Toad gets their own? e.e

untold fractal
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Im gonna need the entire cast of the Land Before Time as pets

sharp bluff
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Toad Loa has blessed us?

harsh wedge
sharp bluff
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well you can get what, two or three now red?

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Triceratops, pterrordax, and spike?

untold fractal
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no idea but now that the idea is in my head, im not gonna stop until i do... which is gonna be a problem. Grad school for me starts 6 days after launch

sharp bluff
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lol

hollow dock
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Krolusk? what are those again?

uncut vault
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the bug things the sethrak ride

harsh wedge
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Minus the saddle for the pet ones

uncut vault
hollow dock
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Ah ok. the trilobites

sharp bluff
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Still look ok

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Love the shell detail

tulip sun
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Tandred is the one alive?

uncut vault
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yeah

harsh wedge
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... No more malf ?

dense plover
tulip sun
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Haha, the red shirt guy joke for tandred

dense plover
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there is malf vo too

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love the rexxar vo

harsh wedge
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Well before he ded i guess for malf

dense plover
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he isnt dead

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he gets spared by saurfang

hollow dock
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malf is fine but this is her reactions to Saurfang

harsh wedge
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Ohhhh ok ok

mystic heart
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maybe today another VO

hollow dock
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btw TY noone

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for the voice line vids

dense plover
uncut vault
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1:00

harsh wedge
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i can't even understand what she says at 1:00

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The accent is too much

hollow dock
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LOL

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I love it

dense plover
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tyrande's vo sounds different

uncut vault
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theres an odd echo

dense plover
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it has some kind of effect on it

uncut vault
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but its her

dense plover
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i wonder if she is speaking through magic

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it sounds like it

hollow dock
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I think theyre trying to get her to better mimic WC3 tyrande

dense plover
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considering she talks to both sides

hollow dock
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I mean in the past everyones just able to speak the universal language of english without magic

dense plover
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yeah it does seem like she also has different vo style

hollow dock
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so I dont see why they'd add it on

dense plover
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no i meant speak to you fro ma distance

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using magic

hollow dock
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Oh ok I see

dense plover
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but its clear the weird overlay effect is a purposeful change

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probably as you said, to make it closer to wc3

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and get away from the "MALFURION MY LOVE"

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because a lot of people have bad memories even though it was a good bit from xxavius' side

uncut vault
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they made her actually elf sounding, instead of troll

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so its good in my books

dense plover
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lol, "Im a mariner, not a cannon"

uncut vault
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AT DEM MAH SEESTAS, FO KALEEMDOH

dense plover
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it wasnt that bad

tulip sun
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HAha

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Moira's comment about her dad

dense plover
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it did make her sound like she had an accent though

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and thats clearly gone

uncut vault
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the line itself wasnt bad, but the accent on her MoP lines

rustic mountain
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I canโ€™t wait to see all the new mount models that were found today

sharp bluff
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I canโ€™t wait to never get 5 mil T.T

dense plover
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lots of minimap updates

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and raid minimaps

sharp bluff
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5 mil hurts to look at

dense plover
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full world map update

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includes changes to the overview for the main zones too

stiff vector
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mfw not minimaps @dense plover

unborn pagoda
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I just wait when western kalimdor crush in to easter EK :D

rustic mountain
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I love that they just keep moving the maelstrom further away with each expansion lol

harsh wedge
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Next expansion maelstrom will be under Pandaria

true matrix
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goodbye eastern kingdoms... goodbye...

dense plover
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zone maps

stiff vector
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ty

dense plover
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im bad at words

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it just looks good

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especially this one

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hot damn

stiff vector
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thanks

dense plover
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so many good changes

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and the resolution

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it makes my eyes happy

harsh wedge
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Drustvar looks beautiful

stiff vector
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its all fun and games until you zoom in on the mountains tho

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those need work

harsh wedge
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Shhh don't kill the dream

terse patrol
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Any idea if we're getting new broadcast text?

rustic mountain
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Whatโ€™s that smudge spot next to zandalar? Future underwear Azshara region?

uncut vault
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just something signifying open water, looks like

dense plover
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temple of sethraliss is on the map!

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the edges are weirdly rough

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clearly some kind of tech they use to port these things

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i want it to be cleaned up and smoothened a bit

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and it needs the capital city on it

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also

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hell yes

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so good

sharp bluff
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ooohh my

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is that what the new tech can do to a desert?!

strange falcon
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you havent seen any videos of voldun?

dense plover
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im so pissed about the brutosaur

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ill never get that much gold

sharp bluff
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I have

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but the map does wonders

dense plover
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it really does

strange falcon
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you can if you put a lot of effort into it

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i'm already at 1M on main char,if i do some heavy saving across all chars

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i should get 5M before end of bfa

dense plover
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im gonna work my ass off

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i NEED IT

sharp bluff
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before end of BFA... that hurts so much

dense plover
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if anyone ever wants to be the best bro ever far in the future

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i need it so bad

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i will die without it

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๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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this map is so smooth

sharp bluff
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mmm Booty

tulip sun
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IS that all for this build or are they just being slow pokes ๐Ÿ˜›

dense plover
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theres a lot of maps

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lots of placeholders

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its a big build behind the scenes

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lots of bug fixes

stiff vector
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it is mostly tiny changes on existing maps

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freehold had names added

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world map had kul'tiras fixed to kul tiras

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stuff like that

dense plover
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thats good too, because there is a lot of holes and stuff and little misalignments of models of torches and stuff

stiff vector
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moestly meant that for world maps

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unsure if freehold itself was updated

uncut vault
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aside from uldir and shrine maps, the others have been in

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just got touched up this build

dense plover
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im moreso talking about zuldazar

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it looks finished

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but the longer you spend there, the more broken things you see

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i reprt them all

unborn pagoda
dense plover
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misaligned fences

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weird torch overlapping

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uneven wall textures

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etc

uncut vault
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Waist of TIme

dense plover
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holy

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shit

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plate?

hollow dock
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please let it be cosmetic

uncut vault
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cosmetic

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and xmoggable

hollow dock
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YES

south bane
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The zones look tiny :/

sharp bluff
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YES

true matrix
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oh fuck yeah

sharp bluff
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that belt

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WOOOO

dense plover
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hell yes

hollow dock
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theyre not when youget in game Sen

south bane
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Can anyone that's played confirm whether they're decently sized?

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Oh sweet as

dense plover
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theyre huge

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theyre fucking massive

hollow dock
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Never take maps as the scale of the in game zone

unborn pagoda
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Everybody want tinker or what? :D or im just only one who dislike majority of this huge belts?

dense plover
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you only get 3 while leveling

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but they are big

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and full

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and interesting

south bane
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I wonder why Blizz made the maps look tiny. Excited to check them out if that's the case!

dense plover
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i thought people who complained about legion zones were being weird

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then i played beta

hollow dock
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theyre big but. empty.

dense plover
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they made them small because it matches scale

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they arent empty

uncut vault
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Im mostly excited because that belt fits my character just so well

dense plover
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theres quests and npcs everywhere

hollow dock
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As in there's not much to do with interacting with those NPCs.

dense plover
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lots of little things around every corner

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except voldun

uncut vault
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the problem people had with legion was the unnecessary obstacles

dense plover
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its kind of empty

hollow dock
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for legion

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peach

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for legion

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since we were talking about legion

uncut vault
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for the most part, BfA zones are pretty flat

dense plover
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oh

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zuldazar isnt flat

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but yeah

uncut vault
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with actual mountain passes being obstacles

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instead of random rocks

dense plover
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finally

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no spires

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fuck spires

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it was so difficult to navigate

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ive had no navigation issues

south bane
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Oh yeah, Spires was the worst

dense plover
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ive had some problems in boralus itself

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but thats being fixed every build

uncut vault
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Khor, Hammer of the Guardian

tulip sun
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-wants some last minute broadcast text- xD

uncut vault
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speaking of saronite bombs

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to go along with the lichen king

ionic terrace
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Beta up POGGERS

twin echo
dense plover
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zul cutscene where he stabs rastakhan is in

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also, pet battle world quests

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and dungeon markers for zuldazar

uncut vault
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alliance war campaign still isnt fixed ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

dense plover
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models for kings rest mobs are in dungeon journal

tulip sun
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@dense plover You don't mean the high quality cutscene do you?

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and apparently this is not the last build with content, it seems some stuff is missing stuff, lol

stiff vector
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its not

dense plover
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no

stiff vector
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not sure where people got that idea, just that most of the team is finishing up on content doesnt mean it'll be in this build

dense plover
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ingame cinematic

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also, the world bosses were reorganized

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they are now one group

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azeroth

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and all of them are in there

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new spell for enhancement shaman

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earth elemental

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5 min cooldown

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protects you and your allies

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they fixed WQ rewards

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small azerite reward is now 250

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instead of 50

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and blue wqs either have gear reward

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or higher azerite

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they added the "return to your continent" people to the zone maps

twin echo
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what about the bug with the arms of the mag'hars?

dense plover
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ill check in a bit

uncut vault
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still there

twin echo
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oki

uncut vault
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another patch

slate ingot
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ummm for completing the war campaign on horde

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it added new things

tulip sun
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??

slate ingot
uncut vault
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very small, 75 mb

tulip sun
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Huh..

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Oooohhhhh

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Neat

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I wonder what she says!

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Tells me

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๐Ÿ˜›

sharp bluff
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manalas?

slate ingot
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yes

sharp bluff
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oh name duh

slate ingot
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basically 1500 azerite

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nothing special or added else atm

twin echo
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lol

slate ingot
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Silithus war campaign is also up on the beta?

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dont know why

uncut vault
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I want to complete the alliance one

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but its bugged

dense plover
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so is horde

meager warren
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"shall tremble before the might of my horde"
hmmmmmm

tulip sun
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Wowhead completed them all?

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At least it appeared so in videos

uncut vault
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your text is irrelevant

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gaze at the brutosaur

dense plover
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why so expensive

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why blizz

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

meager warren
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economics is why

hollow dock
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we bitched we had no idea what to do with all our gold

dense plover
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in the great seal, portal to undercity and vale and dalaran are not there

hollow dock
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so blizzard madae shit really expensive to shut us up

dense plover
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also theres a portal to silithus

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it appears the second part of silithus may be in

meager warren
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and now we're bitching that shit is too expensive.
such is the cycle of bitchin'

terse patrol
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a cycle of hatred

uncut vault
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yeah its just 3 now

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apparently undercity is updated now

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going to check

hollow dock
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so apparently the unicorns are tamable now

uncut vault
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I figured out why alliance can see voldunai

tulip sun
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TELL USSS

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PLSS

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e.e

uncut vault
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you're at war with them

tulip sun
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o.O

hollow dock
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Oh neat so they did ally with the horde

tulip sun
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Welp, there goes any chance of alliance vulpera xD

uncut vault
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shows up as an impassable neutral, with at war locked in

hollow dock
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Wait couldn't this be a Sons of Hodir thing? Where we're 'at war' with em but can slowly build trust?

tulip sun
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He just said you can't get past neutral

uncut vault
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the actual mobs arent attackable

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theyre just

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meh towards you

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presumably because horde questing

meager warren
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it could also be a horde v alliance thing.
we're constantly at war with them but simultaneously helping them all. the. time.

dense plover
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new magni world quests

tulip sun
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From what I know, the Alliance barely even interact with Vulpera in Vol'dun

dense plover
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you go to the wound

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do a quest to kill some azerite elementals

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also there are cenarion circle druids too

tulip sun
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No where in stormwind for em' to stay?

hollow dock
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that's your horde.

meager warren
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coot

tulip sun
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I guess overpopulation

meager warren
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about time

uncut vault
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its just part of the opening quests

meager warren
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stormwind is big but it ain't that big

uncut vault
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forsaken are stuck at the gatestoo

tulip sun
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Opening quests?

hollow dock
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theyre talking about the silithus stuff Kham

uncut vault
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prepatch/intro to the zone

tulip sun
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It is still sad for the forsaken, but they don't really feel or anything like night elves

hollow dock
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Well yea. the night elves are kinda alive

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and need places to sleep. eat.

tulip sun
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Do we know if Gilneas is fully functional or not

hollow dock
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Nope.

meager warren
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forsaken do feel

hollow dock
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As in: you're not going to see forsaken refugees

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because they're dead

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they have no need to sleep. eat. etc.

meager warren
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no but they still feel

hollow dock
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Probably going to see a shack town of night elves in stormwind tbh.

tulip sun
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I mean, you will still see them.

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But they don't really need the care nelves do

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Still sad to see civilians like that hough

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though

hollow dock
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What do the horde care.

tulip sun
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Orgrimmar could always just dig out another uhhh

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what is it called

uncut vault
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there are forsaken refugees

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literally in org

tulip sun
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valley

hollow dock
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Ravine?

tulip sun
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Vris, both factions did stuff to civilians.

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But yes

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There could be a forsaken little area dug out into someplace

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Similar to thunder bluff's forsaken area maybe

meager warren
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they could also use the massive area right beneath Orgrimmar that has been stagnant since....

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when was it

hollow dock
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Don't remember the alliance displacing and executing civilians. Do remember the silithus stuff, but that's not really the extent to what the forsaken did to the elves.

tulip sun
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I mean, they do target the civilians within Undercity. But no need to get into that again.

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Are you talking about the warlock/mage area ?

hollow dock
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whens that exactly?

meager warren
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oooh, steamy romance novel is getting an update

uncut vault
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druids of the claw kill civilian NPCs if you dont save them in the first phase

hollow dock
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Understandable

meager warren
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Vris, when are you gonna get over Ashenvale

hollow dock
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all things considered.

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With ashenvale

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The same time you stop trolling

meager warren
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why tho

tulip sun
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So yes, both people -did- target civilians

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Even SI:7 within undercity

meager warren
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there's plenty of current stuff to be mad at the horde about

hollow dock
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I'm never not going to be salty over the fact that a bunch of corpses uprooted the night elves when an infinite army of demons thrice couldn't do it

meager warren
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

dense plover
tulip sun
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Hm...

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Cenarion Circle still neutral then

hollow dock
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why wouldn't they be?

uncut vault
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I mean, Malf

hollow dock
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there's also tauren leaders on the circle.

twin echo
uncut vault
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theres an actual boat in kul tiras now

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replaces the darnassus dock I think

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ethereals got moved to a not-completely inconvenient spot

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old area now has tons of pandas and tortollans

tulip sun
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LEMME SEE ZE PANDAS <#

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โค

rapid berry
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realm off

uncut vault
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theyre just pandas lol

tulip sun
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Are they Tushui though? e.e

hollow dock
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Kham got the need to see the representation

uncut vault
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mainland traders

tulip sun
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Ohh, that is neat.

dense plover
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theres some kind of realm crash big

uncut vault
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new room added next to the harbormaster's office

tulip sun
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I don't think Zuldazar has that

uncut vault
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Sanctum of the Sages

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open houses!

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all the houses in the market are now implemented

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kul tiran ladies can apparently be bald

meager warren
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hopefully

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hopefully they can also have beards

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better beards than the dwarfs khadgarface

true matrix
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oh damn that's a good look

uncut vault
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archaeology building with a balcony added

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the back end of the market is fully populated now

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kul tiras seems more done than zandalar at this point lol

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horde hubs need a loooot of work

meager warren
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Alliance bias confirmed

uncut vault
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this is so neat

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the NPCs actually wander around and trade

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kids are playing

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apprentice cook NPC walks over to the botanist with a basket of food in her arm

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walks back to her teacher with herbs

tulip sun
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Alliance players will still find something to call bias over

uncut vault
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siege of boralus entrance is no longer in the market, got replaced with more traders and a coin counting house

sharp bluff
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Alliance bias, despite their (the alliance players) best efforts to hide it, has been found o.O

dense plover
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the bald thing is several kul tiran female models

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they dont have a specific hair model

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so its just not there

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they will eventually

uncut vault
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gilneas is establishing trade with kul tiras

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combine that with gilneas being reclaimed, gimme actual human relations blizz

dense plover
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ah

uncut vault
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thats better

dense plover
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so elves are outside stormwind

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forsaken are atop the gates of ogrimmar

sharp bluff
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about time

tulip sun
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They are just outside the embassy

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I like that

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There is no room for forsaken to do such things

uncut vault
tulip sun
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Can you get any pics of orgrimmar?

meager warren
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Kul'tiras and Zandalar trade when...
pls blizz

uncut vault
sharp bluff
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had me till the second to last line

uncut vault
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new nelf weapons

violet sphinx
dense plover
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welp

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war campaign is rep based

rapid berry
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random hc bugged yay

dense plover
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you need revered with honorbound to do some of it

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probably exalted for races

tulip sun
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Eh, not terrible

dense plover
#

damn

tulip sun
#

Yikes

#

That is a lot of coffins, lol

violet sphinx
tulip sun
#

Didn't you just post that? xD

violet sphinx
#

oops thought i was another channel sorry

harsh canyon
#

Net-o-matic

#

I fear it

#

Infinite Range

#

Wait for someone to fly thousands of feet into the air

#

Use it

tulip sun
#

THat horse needs updated

#

Ruins the new guards

jade basalt
#

And instead, the Warfront horse for Alliance is just a naked horse with an Alliance banner

true matrix
#

they're so jacked

#

it's so funny

uncut vault
#

lol that horde banner

#

looks like someone placed an asset sideways

tulip sun
#

That horde saddle on the horde xD

#

This will be the first horde horse, yes?

dense plover
#

when you do the warcampaign and talk to the person who takes you to the other zones, it has a blue (Quest) notation in front of it

#

flight in kul tiras for horde is fixed

#

also sound engine music is fixed

#

no more overlapping music

slate ingot
#

already finished war campaign /shrug but silithus campaign is up on beta

#

dont know why

tulip sun
#

I need details xD

#

Pls

slate ingot
#

ooh

#

emissary for honorbound sells the stuff for qmaster

dense plover
#

okay

uncut vault
dense plover
#

heres a cool thing

#

the new azerite world quests from magni

uncut vault
#

lmao tirisfal fully dismounts you

slate ingot
#

did they fix those?

uncut vault
#

fell to my death

dense plover
#

the activities during them actually give you azerite

#

also

#

casting azerite animation for some of them

#

you hold the necklace in your hands

#

its so cool

slate ingot
#

Magni's quests werent working for awhile so im assuming theyre fixed?

dense plover
#

theyre new

slate ingot
#

they were in previous builds

dense plover
#

go to silithus

#

you unlock them

#

then you can do them

slate ingot
#

I mean they were in previous builds on the WQ rotation is what im getting at so Im assuming they added a way to do them

#

IE silithus

meager warren
#

@sharp bluff why

#

unnecessary conflict is embarrassing

abstract trench
#

is there any changes to the guild achievement 'Stay Classy"?

jade basalt
dense plover
#

damn

#

still nothing about how ghuun came to be

hollow dock
#

Its like

#

Theyre eluding that the titans made ghuun

#

But refuse to outright say it

slate ingot
#

but basically after finishing the war campaign

#

besides 1500 azerite

meager warren
#

rip

dense plover
#

duh

#

each patch probably

vague igloo
#

Can someone check the Echo Isles for the supposed new harbor?

slate ingot
#

8.1 probably

#

but war campaign done you get a quest for 1000 rep and 1500 azerite tldr

harsh canyon
#

Why Echo Islands when you can just expand the pitiful garbage we use outside Orgrimmar over Bilgewater?

uncut vault
jade basalt
#

@hollow dock They did say that the Titans created G'huun at Blizzcon

slate ingot
#

battle pet stuff is in now but no character copy or easy way to get lvl 25 pets atm

harsh canyon
#

HEY

hollow dock
#

Garrisons?

harsh canyon
#

DON'T STEAL OUR CREDIT WRATHION

hollow dock
#

The level 25 stone should be there

meager warren
#

zep hasn't responded to my valid question. :thonk:

uncut vault
#

gotta build up the stuff first

harsh canyon
#

I wanted to be part of the torch part

uncut vault
#

teldrassil burning

#

at night

slate ingot
#

is the alliance war campaign finally completable?

#

or is it now rep gated

uncut vault
#

its incompletable because of a bug

#

can no longer get past the blood in the sands stuff

tulip sun
#

At least we have videos of what happened

slate ingot
#

I mean that was bugged when I did it before

#

the land mines or what ever were being treated as containers

#

and not placeable objects

uncut vault
#

yeah, still not completable after this build

grizzled sleet
tulip sun
#

MIA SURVIVES

#

AND ACTUALLY APPEARS IN-GAME!

#

So Gilneas is now the only kingdom with both their monarchs alive?

meager warren
#

mia?

#

oh, greymane's wife

uncut vault
#

if night elves count, no but

#

they need a place to rule to be rulers

tulip sun
#

Eh, not really monarchs

#

I am half expecting her to be worgen now tho

onyx flower
#

Anyone else having DC issues?

slate ingot
#

yes every 5 minutes in silithus

#

and this build fixed it

true matrix
#

oh thank fuck they didn't end up killing her off for Man Pain

tulip sun
#

So

#

The slightly changed mag'har scenarios says

meager warren
#

if they do "the hanky panky" she might become worgen

tulip sun
#

escape with Eitrigg and MAG'HAR

#

Does that mean...them all?

hollow dock
#

Thats the assumption from the get go I thought

meager warren
#

escape with eitrigg and mag'har and saurfang and zeiling

#

FORM THE NEW-NEW HORDE

#

or HORDE 3.0

hollow dock
#

Isnt it like 4.0 now?

meager warren
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

hollow dock
#

6.0 of you count the other horde variants

tulip sun
#

No, from dialogue and such, it was originally thought to be just Geyarah and some soldiers

hollow dock
#

6.5 rather

uncut vault
#

those hammers are nice

tulip sun
#

Now the scenario ends with you defending the main base and then escaping to azeroth with them

meager warren
#

you can say 7.0

dense plover
#

kul tiras intro cutscene has vo now

#

the one wwhere they do the zone overview

hollow dock
#

.5 because Dark Horde in BRM

uncut vault
#

oh good, seems the constant DC is an everyone thing

meager warren
#

o

uncut vault
#

god, I feel worse for the undead

#

at least the night elves get stormwind

#

undead have to live in orgrimmar now

tulip sun
#

e.e

dense plover
#

dark iron area of the docks is no longer dark iron

tulip sun
#

Do the undead have a base similar to the night elves have near the embassy?

dense plover
#

it has several vendors now

#

no

#

the undead one is on top of the gates of ogrimmar

uncut vault
#

allied race confirmed

#

new hairstyle

onyx flower
#

lol

slate ingot
#

they appear to be reorganizing azerite traits a tad

meager warren
#

The Old Horde as lead by Blackhand, the New Horde as lead by Thrall, the Dark Horde as lead by Dal'rend and Maim, Hellscream's Horde as lead by Garrosh, Iron Horde as lead by Grom and.... can't think of any others

#

@hollow dock

grizzled sleet
#

The New Horde ?

tulip sun
#

Woa

#

A whole area with dark rangers? ๐Ÿ˜›

meager warren
#

The New Horde is basically today's Horde

uncut vault
#

with the new hunter poses theyre insistent on not giving us

tulip sun
#

Where are those dark rangers?

#

Above orgrimmar?

uncut vault
#

outside

#

near the docks

meager warren
#

doesn't look like orgrimmar

#

o

#

it is

uncut vault
#

they reused most of the pre-legion assets for the new horde stuff

#

where alliance got all new areas

tulip sun
#

Eh, I am ok with it

uncut vault
#

I still think its funny how intentionally theyre making the horde look outmatched

tulip sun
#

How so?

uncut vault
#

unlike the alliance, most of the horde fleet got destroyed

#

kul tiran fleet is called better than the zandalari one by nathanos himself

tulip sun
#

I mean, it would sort of justify their actions.

#

Somewhat

uncut vault
#

most of the mission table stuff is the alliance taking areas

#

gilneas, plaguelands, barrens

tulip sun
#

Porter, can you take some images of orgrimmar?

uncut vault
#

Sure

#

was seeing where the new zandalari 'dock' is

tulip sun
#

Echo Isles?

grizzled sleet
#

the cosmetic belt "Waist of Time" is basically a waste of time

meager warren
#

Alliance bias confirmed and i'm not trolling

uncut vault
#

behold

meager warren
#

take that Alliance apologists

uncut vault
#

the horde's largest dock

meager warren
#

coot

tulip sun
#

Is that a new area in echo isles? xD

#

So pitiful.

slate ingot
#

Magni is missing in Silithus

#

wee

uncut vault
#

they added a puny dock, yeah

tulip sun
#

Why not use the goblin's port city?

uncut vault
#

the mission tables call it the horde's second largest port outside of orgrimmar

tulip sun
#

e.e....I guess in lore it would be bigger

meager warren
#

rip

#

they could make it bigger without half-assing it

tulip sun
#

I like seeing Ancients in Stormwind....they also need an updated model

uncut vault
#

they got some in legion

#

just decided to use the old ones for some reason

tulip sun
#

I feel like Bilgewater Port should be pretty large

tulip sun
#

Tbh I feel sadder for the forsaken now xD

#

At least the night elves have some resemblance of order, having a small base near the embassy.

#

The forsaken are just scattered around the city

rich apex
#

Pathos? For the Forsaken?

#

Madness

slate ingot
vague igloo
#

The Echo Isle docks is probably just for the new Zandalari not Horde main dock, I agree they could unite Bilgewater to that small horde dock outside Ogrimmar

uncut vault
#

the mission tables call it the second largest horde port

meager warren
#

"surely a few bodyparts scavenged from the battlefield won't be noticed"
oooh, i want to see orc forsaken

tulip sun
#

I feel like there is a horde champion missing

#

Was there really only 5?

uncut vault
#

only four alliance ones so far

vague igloo
#

Lol, well I guess if its bigger than the Orgrimmar one its the second biggest sure

tulip sun
#

I was positive there were at least six datamined, with the alliance being the same

#

I wonder if we will get more

meager warren
#

remember when the zandalari called on both the horde and alliance for help?
the nostalgia, man

uncut vault
#

new voljin model leaked!!!!

tulip sun
#

Lol

meager warren
#

oh no

rich apex
tulip sun
#

Why doesn't wowhead have a models page yet

meager warren
#

"vol'jin's in a jar, tf" ~Sylvanas

#

"Who the fuck cremated him"

#

"Nathanos, was that you"

dense plover
#

well

#

this wont make it to live

#

its a pun

vague igloo
#

Why the old models?

dense plover
#

but its a bit racist

#

just a pinch

#

but still

slate ingot
#

atleast the 5mil mount has rep discounts

sharp bluff
#

@meager warren calling the conflict in WoW unnecessary is embarrassing, WoW was built on it

meager warren
#

lol nah

#

wow was built on conflict.
not unnecessary conflict

uncut vault
#

I still think blizz fucked up by not releasing the book sooner

meager warren
#

it being called "warcraft" is not a good excuse for the H v A stupidity since, ya know, there has been war aside from the H v A shit in literally every single expac from Vanilla onwards

uncut vault
#

the entire context for the xpac

slate ingot
#

H v A in every expac? its been prominent in what two?

meager warren
#

hmm?

#

wat

steel venture
#

so
tamable pets
pterrodaxes
trilobites (krolusks)
lizards (saurolisks)
and toads.

rich apex
#

Blizz foolishly expected that people wouldn't overreact from every out of context text line from the datamines

uncut vault
#

seems like they only added Zandalar ones this patch

slate ingot
#

datamine broadcast text quick everyone overreact

tulip sun
#

Hmm

meager warren
#

overreac*

slate ingot
#

no I do believe its overreact

tulip sun
#

I like the updates to the capitols though, everchanging

uncut vault
#

cause kul tiras has things like bees, not-unicorn horses, and the like that should be tameable

meager warren
#

no it overreac

tulip sun
#

Orgrimmar is going to be -SO- full e.e

slate ingot
#

do you really want to start?

sharp bluff
#

Murder just want alliance to rule lol, it shows, honestly BFA is the best conflict in WoW yet, split the two away and actually have a new reason to fight

tulip sun
#

The forsaken fugees, nightborne and highmountain tourists

#

Now the entirety of the mag'har

sharp bluff
#

Are the bees tamable?

slate ingot
#

dont believe so

sharp bluff
#

Darn

meager warren
#

it overreac!

uncut vault
#

a lot of the old allied race stuff got removed

#

lightforged for example

sharp bluff
#

Bee pets would be fearsome

uncut vault
#

are completely gone

slate ingot
#

it's not if you're really going to argue with a thesaurus I suggest you reevaluate yourself.

meager warren
#

:woke:

slate ingot
#

and the lightforge/lightbound stuff is meh

steel venture
#

so that probably confirms that the allied race stuff right now was filler to tide us over and bfa+ onward things will give the legion ones by default unlocked @uncut vault

tulip sun
#

WHAT!>

#

Lightforged arn't in stormwind anymore?

#

Like at all? No brightlances?

#

or ironforge

uncut vault
#

dunno about ironforge

slate ingot
#

Big old scar in Tirisfal

uncut vault
#

but their regiment and warframes are all gone from SW

tulip sun
#

That is weird that the npcs don't even wonder stormwind anymore

#

Maybe it will just be the two latest allied races you recruit

rich apex
#

I still saw Nightborne in Silvermoon when I went through there to get to Tirisfal o.O

#

Oh -that- bit got removed from Stormwind

meager warren
#

that scar is placed right in front of Undercity instead of on it.
how convenient

slate ingot
#

Tirisfal got the Vale treatment it seems with a big old scar

#

interesting to see what the Teldrassil map is

tulip sun
#

Hm, that is good hyper

rich apex
#

Undercity is so blighted now that it literally kills you in five seconds if you go into the ruins

tulip sun
#

I hope we still see lightforged -somewhere

meager warren
#

bruh

rich apex
#

They should still be wandering Stormwind and IF and Exodar

#

Just you know, not Darnassus

slate ingot
#

has silverpine been updated at all?

rich apex
#

Nope

#

Nor Gilnaes

tulip sun
#

I guess they are not directly in the embassy anymore either

rich apex
#

I was told they reverted Uther's tomb back

meager warren
#

mfw lvl 10 nubs get blighted to death when playing forsaken

sharp bluff
#

Maybe they moved the LF to azuremist

meager warren
#

for the horde amirite.
die a slow painful death, ya morons

tulip sun
#

My hope is that they just appear instead of being outright removed.

sharp bluff
#

They probably will

meager warren
#

Zep, you haven't responded to my last message to your response ๐Ÿ‘€

#

speechless?

sharp bluff
#

I canโ€™t see them outright removing them for no reason

#

Plus they are a troop type at the table

slate ingot
#

probably has you blocked, or just doesnt care?

sharp bluff
#

Why Murder? It was kinda boring

slate ingot
#

and DC city atm on beta

sharp bluff
#

I play forsaken anyways, the painful part is only if you can kill me

meager warren
#

if your only response to a good question is "it was kinda boring," you should re-evaluate yourself.
I'm not trolling

slate ingot
#

you kind of are lol

sharp bluff
#

Not really, your insults are indeed boring

meager warren
#

i was trolling with "overreac"

terse patrol
#

Glad to see Mia survived

sharp bluff
#

You have used them a lot, they are stale

slate ingot
#

took care of that

meager warren
slate ingot
#

going to check uthers

meager warren
#

this was not trolling

slate ingot
#

assuming I don't get dcd every 5 minutes

terse patrol
#

@uncut vault post moar

sharp bluff
uncut vault
#

of wot

sharp bluff
#

I responded to that long ago

meager warren
#

i don't want the horde or alliance to rule wat

sharp bluff
#

The second part

slate ingot
#

did they update Ironforge for dark iron yet?

meager warren
#

i did read the whole thing

uncut vault
#

baine's words got replaced in Zandalar

sharp bluff
#

This is the first expansion the HvA war is starting to look like a war, they have reasons to fight

meager warren
#

but it's not the best conflict since it's the same exact conflict that has griped wow since it's inception that it could do without

meager warren
#

do they? oh hun

uncut vault
#

old, for reference

#

no more sylvanas mention

grizzled sleet
#

Baine next warchief

uncut vault
#

or honor

terse patrol
#

ffs

tulip sun
#

Nice Baine

terse patrol
#

Baineโ€™s on the Sylvanas train now

meager warren
#

guess so.
it fucking sucks

#

suspicious of Christie Golden

uncut vault
#

he's even got sylvanas' line from the BfA cinematic

tulip sun
#

What is wrong with what Baine is saying?...

uncut vault
#

"We have forgotten what makes us strong"

sharp bluff
#

Honestly we still donโ€™t know what Sylvanis was gonna do with the Valk has she captured one, but we know Gen attacked her, both sides saw this, now we have the tree burning and undercity being blighted, it is Warcraft, not friendcraft

slate ingot
#

we do already

#

its used in the horde war campaign

meager warren
#

"it is warcraft, not friendcraft"
LOL

#

you make me laugh

#

really

uncut vault
#

wasnt like

tulip sun
#

I think what Baine says is wonderful

uncut vault
#

the entire point of MoP and Wrath to band together

sharp bluff
#

Whatever murder, I really donโ€™t care what ya think

uncut vault
#

and make friends against the enemy

terse patrol
#

Khamnin, youโ€™ve always been a Horde fanboy tho

meager warren
#

that's good.
but you might want to work on those pursuasion techniques

tulip sun
#

I play and like alliance too.

meager warren
#

if that was even that

uncut vault
#

Even as a sylv fanboy, Im a bit disappointed

#

a lot less useful with the new one

sharp bluff
#

This xpac feels good it feels like war, the last few have not

tulip sun
#

I don't see what is wrong with what Baine says in all honesty.

sharp bluff
#

I will take it

terse patrol
#

Baine was supposed to be a moral one

slate ingot
#

I mean the story seems decent so far

uncut vault
#

its less whats wrong with what he is saying

#

and more that its replacing what he used to say

terse patrol
#

Now heโ€™s sucking Sylvanasโ€™ knob

meager warren
#

what does he say now?

uncut vault
#

I linked it already

slate ingot
#

play the war campaign it opens up a lot of lore plots

tulip sun
#

He is not outright saying he doesn't trust the warchief, which is smart.

#

But it still sounds like he is wary.

meager warren
#

@uncut vault can you post a screenshot of his new dialogue

tulip sun
#

Of what is happening

sharp bluff
#

Above murder

uncut vault
sharp bluff
#

Scroll

#

Up

meager warren
#

lol, zep

#

you scroll up!

#

selective reading

sharp bluff
#

:/ glad you get your kicks and giggles acting like that

#

Whatever

meager warren
#

don't worry, i do ;)

tulip sun
#

Baine says pretty much the same thing, but not as....bluntly.

slate ingot
#

Uthers Tomb was Indeed reverted

sharp bluff
#

So any big names killd mana?

meager warren
#

mfw Baine challenges Sylvanas to Mak'gora and the Garrosh/ Cairne scenario just repeats

slate ingot
#

in the campaign?

sharp bluff
#

Yes

slate ingot
#

No, the campaign basically introduces a couple key figures zeiling,stone, derek proudmoores body and an artifact

#

and a couple new plotline possibilities

sharp bluff
#

Hmm nothing groundbreaking yet then

#

Alright

slate ingot
#

I mean yes actually

uncut vault
#

lol poor hordies

slate ingot
#

the horde has Derek Proudmoores body

uncut vault
#

their capitol is split in two

#

alliance has their useful stuff nice and compact

#

horde has to use a flight path just to get to the other half

sharp bluff
#

Do they Rez him though

slate ingot
#

which is one of the new plot lines in the future

uncut vault
slate ingot
#

no, but nathanos hints at conflict with Katherine

uncut vault
#

xmog is down at the docks

#

same with missions, rep vendors/turnins, and island expeditions

slate ingot
#

as well as the horde has a powerful tide sage artifact, and a tide sage who has void magic capabilities/tidesage

#

I'd have to dig through the screens I dumped on the discord, but Zeiling the tidesage Lilian raises is adapt with the void, and tidesage magics

sharp bluff
#

Hmm that would be a fun plot line, body and voidstick, thanks Mana, your much more informative then murd

slate ingot
#

and Lilian voss seems to be getting more plot too

sharp bluff
#

I saw those earlier a few days ago I think

slate ingot
#

as per Nathanos

sharp bluff
#

When you posted em

slate ingot
#

a lot of good plot possibilities from the campaign theyre just buried id upload them or whatever but don't know how so if people are interested just ask or dig =P

sharp bluff
#

I saw lol, just trying to catch up a bit

slate ingot
#

but I am curious if they updated the quest text for the campaign don't really know cant go back and check unless I do it again

#

mainly derek proudmoore

sharp bluff
#

Canโ€™t wait, thanks

tulip sun
#

Tandred apparently appears very little, but he appears!

#

Still love his few voice things

#

His last line reminded me of Talieson, who says like, WELL OBVIOUSLY, it was a shit show or however he says it.

slate ingot
#

Boralus looks so much nicer with updates

#

wonder if they textured the statues

uncut vault
#

they didnt

#

added new ones

#

waaaay cooler

meager warren
#

is alliance getting the better end of the stick or isn't it :thonk:

uncut vault
#

IMO they are at this point

#

got a better capitol to me, both in looks and convenience

#

got a more convincing story and motivation

#

plus big humans

meager warren
#

ye

violet sphinx
dense plover
#

wait wait

#

more convincing story?

#

the zandalari story is fucking fantastic

#

also the quests are more fun

#

we get to ride a giant frog

#

we get to make friends with a talking thunder lizard

meager warren
dense plover
#

we help stop a murder conspiracy against a king

#

and attempt to stop the outbreak of an old god

meager warren
#

Is Peach defecting to Horde? murloc

terse patrol
#

Does the Horde have Soldier 76? Didnโ€™t think so.

dense plover
#

i am horde

#

im not defecting

meager warren
#

O

violet sphinx
#

i play both sides cant wait to see love zandalari

dense plover
#

i was borne in the horde, forged by it

meager warren
#

xd

tropic trail
#

my heart hurts

dense plover
#

are the world servers still regularly crashing?