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thats not f2p
thats a trial
f2p would mean you could eventually progress for free
you really cant
not without buying the expacs
its' the 'demo' of the game basically
if this generation even rememebrs what those are
Ppl call it f2p.. Ok :D pls dont blame mě
not blaming
Me *
I know it, but for every "trial player" its f2p..
And i want know what "skill cap" after stat / proff squish is equal for 100 skill on live servers
But how much and if smth what isnt now obtainable will be or not
You dont lose progress nor gain. You simply get what you would have under the new system, grandfathered in from the old.
The exact same as right now.
it only affects 60+
The skill bunching up just makes it so all "Old World' crafting is labeled with the vanilla stuff, TBC with all the Outland stuff, WotLK with all the Northrend stuff
so on so fourth
well, each of those now has its own skill cap
but that essentially has no effect for vanilla content
So. It'd be like max 125 or 150 for each one?
Im just interested what "max trial skill" will be
same as now
right now
weve said this a bunch
it isnt changing
trial content pretty much never changes
including this time
Wut.. I though cap for end game will be 150..and thats logicaly (for me) means 800=150 ➡ 100=?
(in my eyes)
well it happened in cata.
it could happen again
so legion has 150 points in the legion tree, cata has 75 points in the cata tree
vanilla has 100 (maybe 150) in the vanilla tree
it only changed because the old world changed Arson
and you need to be the expac appropriate level to get that expac's skill set
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Ok :D.. I just didnt read all stuff around that and havent beta key for sure
so 58 for BC, etc
the world wont be redone again
theyll redo it in pieces like they are now
it took too many resources to redo the entire world and it caused cata to suffer
Still thx guys
Whats the best class for BfA so far lads?
no tuning
asking for whats strong now is impossible
it will not match what live will be
New build tomorrow?
So pretty much boost a shaman and hope it goes well?
Yeah that was the plan the whole time, I was actually just gonna level up the "best" class
or hope I already have one at 100-110
yes, new build tommorow
how do you know if your in the beta?
if you can download the beta, you have beta
so the ptr?
ahh gotcha
I can't wait till tomorrow(hopefully it is tomorrow
it is
muffinus literally said tuesday
unless things go wrong, it will be tomorrow
It was in the same tweet that declared that they finished designing all the launch content
literally illegible
because its player made
which means they go for the new chique design
that is the opposite of user friendly
I feel like the original was probably bigger than this
well, yes.
but you can clearly see its designed to be read
so kha probably didn't copy the original source of said fanmade thing correctly
its an image
since discord makes things a fraction of the size if you dont download the image right
you cant copy an image wrong
It's because someone took a screen of it and reposted it.
would like to see the full version
Does this look better ? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418505468718219264/445751570706202624/SanlyneMONTAJE.jpg
I CAN SEE
There you go
I... CAN... FIGHT!
That's the original by the way, credit goes to Hipnosworld.
I just heard FOP's King Arthur
... Eventually down the line I would actually be okay with this.
damn you Orewing
you're welcome vris
interesting news for aff loc
.... is it bad that the wing ability on the racials kinda sounds cool for that mockup?
like i'd probably make it more of a "for fun" thing, no better than a monk's optional zen flight, but probably not as fast as zen flight. (which zen flight is ALREADY pretty slow.)
OR:
go all out, and make it like the flgiht equivilent of running wild---but a san'layn character would obviously have to be at least level 60 to use it then.
or that too. yeah.
just turn them into bats
Meh, turning into actual bats wasn't ever their thing.
The closest NPC that did, was Kirtonos and he turned into a gargoyle instead of a bat.
look they're basically vampires they might as well
which i mean, if that's the case at least they'd hopefully update default gargoyle models
...but given the fact that they're now using the felbat model as a similar role, i doubt it.
looks at the forsaken plaguebat
I like the little blurbs in that pic, involving both races in a conflict, and having their capitols near Stormwind, and helping the other displaced race in their faction
Also everyone forgets about Kirtonos.
Vampyr were a thing for ages before San'layn existed.
Yeah same!
Also, a group of high elves that're isolated and were able to form more distinct cultural traits + could've slightly changed appearance is the kind of "retcon" I've been talking about that'd likely make them actually playable.
Although... I think they might still change their core skeleton and not use a blood elf base for it.
Might slap on human animations to them, to not give the same animation rig and avoid the Pandaren 2.0 issue.
still think that allied race or not, high and blood elves need some actual skin tone diversity
Also high elves that DONT have the slanted back would be great thanks
i hate the "cocky" pose that male blood elves and void elves are permenantly in
the issue is
if they retcon high elves
i bet you a whole bunch of people would still be unsatisfied
because they want blood elves on the alliance
if you make them look different
people will complain
yep
'I wanted high elves, not savage elves.'
I mean they could always just give high elves, blood elves, and void elves a new posture
despite WC2 high elves ARE savage elves 🤣
since they used the themes that kaldorei later used
and then kaldorei kind of
stopped using
plus, if theyre anything like all the other allied races, they'll have options to look similar to their counterparts
Cata is when the savage night elves stopped
When the color Red became the night elves one weakness
It was a mess and it sucks because I was so hype for Deathwing. :c
and then they made him a dumbass.
and then they did too many stories at once.
and
ugh
I only dont like cata for how they made night elves incompetent
Neutrals womt happen agai
Again*
Ogres need a full rework to be a player race. I support it as a full fledged race, not an allied race
Especially with the upgraded rexxar model
Mok'nathal on the other hand probably would work out fine as an allied race.
Given that Rexxar already uses Kul Tiran animations.
That could certainly work
And female mok'nathal could easily just use kul tiran female animations.
It's basically already hinted that could be super likely, Rexxar's amount of detail is very odd to not reuse it for something else later.
Especially when he never takes off his furred hood, but has an actual detailed face under it.
Granted that it could just be because hes heavily used in BFA
I could be wrong, of course. But it just seems odd since he's not the character to really take off his gear often.
If at all, actually.
saying we're never gonna get neutral races is pretty cocky
We aren't.
Blizzard has stated they never want to do Pandaren-like races again.
M8
Blizzard can, has, and will change their mind
Unless they didnt like something they made in the past
If we get something "neutral" it will be likely that the sides will be pre-picked.
I'll use my naga example.
A tribe of naga could easily be made into Elune worshipers, and given to the Alliance.
Another tribe could be turned into harsh, rugged Neptulon worshipers and given to the Horde.
Both could have somewhat different mutations and customization that seperate them, but still clearly are both naga.
if they don't like doing something, that just means it's worth it
Thats very backwards.
how?
If you dont like it
you can't progress if you never go outside your comfort zone
you not liking something is the same as you not being comfortable with it.
and i disagree
They did go out of their comfort zone for Pandaren, it didn't work for them.
Especially how the Wandering Isle pandaren basically were less important than the mainlanders.
Stepping out of the comfort zone=/=not liking it.
I mean I guarantee elf neutral race would go over better than pandas
Can I atleast ask Blizzard to allow the Ogres to hand with us in Orgrimmar?
but they prolly wont do it
You can ask blizzard for whatever you want Zy
anything would go over better than pandas because pandas are apparently the worst thing in warcraft
Honestly, coming from a roleplay perspective---I don't even remember seeing many people claim their pandaren was from the Wandering Isle, more people wanted to make them mainlanders.
because wandering isle ones basically had no importance to the story.
Mainlanders have more backstory potential sadly.
And more of a reason to possibly pick a side than just "Hey! You're cool~!"
I wouldn't say that is particularly why they chose sides
But my main pandaren is from the wandering isle, though I do have mainland pandaren too
Indeed, My two Pandarens are a Weapon Lorewalker and an Angler that decided to be a Horde Privateer because she stole too much
It kind of is.
Aysa saw the Alliance was more like the Tushi way of thinking, Ji saw the Huojin way of thinking in the Horde.
99% of pandaren Rpers play as mainlanders
Captain Heftbooty is greatest Pirate
because isle pandas are boring and irrelevant
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It literally was just "Hey you're cool and seem like people I'd hang out with. I'll go with you."
For Wandering Isle ones.
has bliz made any angler-fish people in any of their games?
i'd play the shit out of that
Angler Murlocs
o
Closest thing are deep-sea mulocs but that's about it.
i was thinking something more like jinyu but with a lantern over their head
I would want to see Naga varients
Deep sea Jinyu
Desert Naga when
^
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Jinyu don't work because they are basically Goldfish Murlocs
They mutate constantly! Why wouldn't there be a breed that can survive on land.
And solely on land, for that matter.
it's magic meme
Naga can survive on land
they mutate based onhow they want to mutate
Naga can survive onland as is
but they dont like it at all
Yeah, and they're trying to take over every niche on Azeroth thus far.
See our good O' Coilskar matron
The new giant naga hulks in Legion have legs.
Lady S'theno hates volcanos. I think anybody would.
and she's existed on Marduun
Fel volcanos aren't exactly pleasant.
Fresh Water Naga with spots and markings like troat/salmon
Ocean Naga the vanilla
Deep Sea Naga looking scary as fuck
She's out of water for the longest time
i want to see a giant naga mount at some point. 
zy you're reading my mind LOL
i literally have naga that're more freshwater / briny than oceanic
Salmon naga next allied race
That is fantastic for you.
but naga come from the deep sea
and seem to breed there
No she isnt LOL
.. as much as i know mind is probably joking salmon are actually a good point lol
wat
salmon can exist in salt or freshwater depending on if they're spawning or not
so will the sanlayn be able to suck the blood out of people and spike them into the ground or is that just from a cinematic thing
looks corrupted to me
i have. it's a magical place 
S'thenos is just green for the sake of being green.
yeah she's
just green dude
naga have been able to be naturally green since vanilla
all this talk of salmon is making me hungry
that makes one of us
Black, green, unnaturally colored.
Yup
scales deform for no purpose whatsoever
sneets confirmed?
god fucking damn it NOT THE SNIDDIES AGAIN
ALWAYS
sniddies confirmed
SNIDDIES OR BUST
I mean they might use them, who knows. Eonar is the real mystery. Or titan-forged.
If Naga didn't breed and were only created fromnight elves, I'd believe it.
its either vestigial or naga are some strange, mutant type of monotreme that looks reptilian and can breathe underwater
so snake tiddies are now a thing?
naga dont make eggs with magic what LOL
they breed
they actually breed.
there are mothers and fathers you can find in vashj'elan during the goblin starting zone
Tits sell Rune
oh and the same reason that asura women and charr women cover their chests despite not actually having tits
"the world isn't ready"
they'll always be a thing
Umm murder, sniddies are bust(s)
why don't the males wear bras then
Males have no need for them?...
What actual race have the best tiddies?
....
as
weird naga are they might actaully have a reason for their tits still though.
despite laying eggs
Moobs for kultirans?
Personally: Night elves.
That fits in their bodies obviously
hence why i bought up monotremes
aka platypuses and echidna
they dont have nipples either, and they lay eggs but still produce milk
they do tho
and the females do have a need for them?
Uh yes.
Nipples?
yes
lmao
Also your right Nile, asura females have no goods, not sure on charr myself though
if the females have a need for them, then why don't the males' nipples get hidden
bra's were made for womens breasts to support them. As they can be very heavy on your chest.
I like night elves too, they have the best bodies in the game
Second place Draenei I think
males have tits too
not to hide thenipples
charr only have visible "breasts" when they're pregnant. like cats.
and mens tits aren't as heavy as womens.
and?
that's why men don't require the support of a bra
since charr have litters of 2-3 @sharp bluff
Makes sense, they live in a giant metal yarn ball
To give the illusion of tits
Well if you're too fat maybe it's better to use them
Because tits sell
^
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
since our main source of survival as a species
is sex
So sex sells
as it's our most primal desire
Proving the point
the concept
but yeah naga might like "sweat" milk through the breaks of their scales that expose the skin beneath
as
unpleasant
as that sounds.
pornstar as new allied race, 2050
I always chalked it up to genetic semblences
since platypuses "sweat" milk too since they have no nips
of the original nelf naga
Murder they already are, gnomes
ew
Lol
Damn gnomes
gnomes are hideous
#judgingyou
tho
I dont judge
Now we can talk about the ass
IMO, Draenei.
i swear inter probably takes a shot every time he looks in here
probably sylvanas
Tauren, grade A beef flank
even though she's fucking ded
grade a beef xd
lol grade a beef
Sylvanas is not a race you dumdum
no
I place goats for that one
but Sylvanas is a unique character with a unique model so
no she isnt
"unique"
OK yea she is
Well
no
even at a model
she shares it with Alexstrasza and Ysera
that ass tho
remember vanilla sylvanas
Sylvanas Allied Race when
SYLVANAS ALLIED RACE WHEN
At least vanilla high elves weren't night elves
yes they were
Sylvanas: I AM THE BANSHEE QUEEN
Also I like panda girls asses
Sylvanas: idlebounce
they're big
Were they?
lmao
Yes
I thought they had a difference, still terrible model
that "sexy" lumbar lordosis that draenei have 😬
All of them were using the night elf model
Also Sylvanas: Twerks while getting off horse
but in pure pale skin
they had a unique model, it just used the nelf skeleton and sucked
It was god awful
OH GOD
It seems the allied race generic troops may be sorta like the lightforged and such
They look like the guys from quel'danas
That is what you guys want...? Ew....
from Vanilla
ye
HELL
NO
IT IS NOT WHAT WE WANT
oh thank god it's being bumped out
just a few more.
Ew....
I WANT VANILLA HIGH ELVES BLIZZ
NO
Vris you need glasses....
PORTER WHY
hideous elf races
AHHHHHHHHH
pre-wow high elves
REMOVE
and the new ones are just barely better
DISMANTLETHAT PICTURE
DISMANTLE VRIS
REMOVE IT
ALPHA VANILLA FEMALE TROLLS PLEASE BLIZZZZZZ
Operation Desert Vris
ALPHA WORGEN WHEN PLS
Post that in the highelf chat XD
unless you become staff, gl with that
It is what you want Vris
The old worgen model is scarier than the new one, change my mind
I am staff there
(scary in the good way)
S u c k i t
“High” elfs
well you're not here ;)
I never said I'd delete it here
touche
I said I'd delete it if they post it in the helf discord
Why are we talking of high elves
because this all came
why is there a helf discord
Sniddies!!!
Dude theyve been in game since Warcraft 2
but why
I know
Fanatics 😉
sniddies!
I was trying to set the joke of the high elves on the horde
But they are
There's no reason for them to be on the horde.
😉
Ion in 2025: Alright, guys. Horde is getting both High Elves and Sanlayn just to spite the Alliance plebs
Hell theres no reason for the blood elves to be on horde. They're just stuck there.
They fucked up so many things in BC
... Honestly imo---the real main reason folk want high elves so much is because blizzard keeps pumping out the "edgy" variants of them but not the originals. 😂
Could be worse Vris, member vanilla goblin smiles?
blood elves
edgy
void elves
EXTREMELY EDGY
san'layn
THE. EDGIEST.
They are ok
🤣
YE
hot
feast ur eyes on that, vris
yes, daddy
uuh
but on the subject of sanlayn
they seem to be making them intentionally not edgy
practical and brutal instead
which i am glad for
Sorta
Not really
they were literally the most effective scourge during wrath tbh
Yep
Lich King is active
the blood princes did the most
Enjoy. Gnomeator.
hot
half-gnome-half-high elf
... looks like something from the backwaters of MG Vris.
what if Mister Bean is our next allied race
That reminds me that I want to use a Paladin Elf
the real nelfs, gnelfs
Gnohomo
100% would play a Mr Bean
Well to have a Discord about wanting helfs, I guess you have to take a few photos of their good side, like above
Gnomes are gay because they don't use socks
get a discord about wanting Mister Bean allied race
Idkwhy you want those Vris, but whatever lol
@opal ember can you not
I still say, VIVA LA MURLOC
gwawagwawg!
I do like that he tries to twist memes to try and get me all angry andflustered
but doesnt realize we made the meme to laugh at
you're talking about me, right?
i don't try to twist memes to get you all angry and flustered.
I make them to laugh at you
How can you be angry for some dumb meme
^
vris that is. so cursed
:thonk:
IM ANGRY BECAUSE PHILOSORAPTOR IS DEAD
it gets better
🤔
#WhatIsMemedMayNeverDie
Shut up
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wasn't the pepe thing because a neo-nazi was using it
here are some extremely cursed images
Stare in fear into his beautiful eyes.
Yes, yes it was
I want the knuckles meme dead
Nazis ruin everything
it is dead
it's been dead
What the fuck is that
it was a DOA meme
someone on one of the minecraft discords made Danny Devito's face a meme and killed it after like two days
I wonder if there are any high elfs in the trailers yet for Honk to give an artists touch to yet...
from over-using it
half-belf-half-dwarf
half-belf-half-troll x2
half-human-half-dwaf
all from the fun of someone fucking around with a sandbox and morphing eue
Half goblin half gnome when
goblins
no
i said smaller, not bigger
I feel really sorry for the guy who created pepe
not gnomes
We should let the alliance get lepper elves, the high elfs all go to save gnomoria, they succeed but all remaining helfs glow green and emit radiation 😉
yeah
I can't imagine what it'd feel like if someone used my art for a purpose like that 😨
@hollow dock hun.
i've seen art of a half-murloc-half-nelf before.
nothing is sacred.
right?
half orc half elf to the alliance
everything is sacred
Logical anything part orc will never join the alliance, if it looks orc
here's a crazy, stupid idea that nobody would be dumb enough to write: a half human, quarter orc, quarter draenei
ooh, ooh! half tauren, half rabbit
completely ridiculous, right?
BROWN ORCS FOR THE ALLIANCE?!?!?!?!??!
Humans will have a civil war if anything orc joins, even as a joke it is rough lol
@uncut vault nah, bae. i beat you
ow, dont beat me
yw
Kultirans will leave if orcs join
Don't tell them that we worked together last expansion
good
then the kul'tirans might join the horde because then they'd be forced into it
3 months btw
if anybody wants to see the half-murloc abomination i could pull it up
but it'd have to be a DM because its a goddamn nsfw character
like W H Y
and we'd have those sweet sweet druid forms
lmao never you horde scum
It would be amazing if the build was released at midnight. It won't be....but I can dream
pm me nile
always, alliance scum
show me too
lmao ok
y'all are gonna suffer
Ok I’ll take the murloc thing
Altruis the sufferer wished he had my skillz
that's just a shit meem
HERETIC
meme*
vanilla was hideous
😂
That "masterpiece" 🤔
hot
no u
<3
Dworf without beard isnt Dworf
😮
And cant understand why dworf woman havent any
Sure, cuz true dworfs dont speak about what they are (m/f).. Ask Terry Pratchett.. Oh, wait..
hot
Dat pomade :D
Perfect hair
best gnome hairstyle
A body the ladies love
I speak from experience
And a vibrate setting
@hollow dock
Travolta style 

All these vanilla pics make me miss “Two Dwarfs”
The Dance Studio has come to Azeroth! Put on your dancing shoes and witness one of Stormwind's finest perform all of the male player-character dance animatio...
how about those moves
they have to fix every dance except humans
They can do it like in fortnite 😮
the human dance is perfection
aerial combat and "path of the titans" was advertised too remember?
aerial combat was just a try to use the new vehicles
And about "vibro setting" http://www.wowhead.com/item=59041/vibro-knife

I want new dances :(((
Im like 90% certain the Vibro weapons are a reference to the weapons of the same name in Star Wars.
@unborn pagoda the hell was that even about terry pratchett??
I want to vibro die
Dworfs on Discworld have all beard.. Woman tho
Also
honestly with how bad the allied race flirts are
good. that's a good choice for dwarves
you'd think they could bring back the female draenei line of "do gnomes have a vibrate setting?"
You mean the Vibroblade from KotOR Vris?
remember that "cartoon amish man" nelf meme
The amish meme
Nile you say that, but forget Two Dwarfs? For shame
that was lame
no u
I thought the vibrating gnome joke never made it on to live?
Two Dwarfs joke was removed though sadly
"You have heard of the Exodar? I will show you the Sexodar!"
was also removed
how about the dark iron girl flirt?
they removed sexodar?
i cri
the original draenei ones were REALLY bad LOL
the fuck is this conversation?
the fuck are you
w8
How the fuck are you?
^
that's fucking lovely
Fucking excellent
The best /flirt of all time:
"Nice butt."
nah.
the best is "the fuck?"
Just how blunt that one is kills me every time, lmfao.
no u
(dark iron girls)
No molten beards, not female Dwarfs
:woke:
let lady dwarves have beards you Cowards
lol no
because they're ugly
do you understand the purpose of memes
hey that was on purpose
*shares "so's mine!" ad

@meager warren oh I love that meme
Trick question Murder, YOU PULL THEM ALL!!
gasp
yw
I am waiting for when the people start making Darknest mods for BFA

We're expecting a big patch on beta today right ?
If yes, does anyone know around when will we have that info/build?
Since its introduction in Warlords of Draenor, the mission table has been one of the most contentious features in the game. In fact, for both Legion and Battle for Azeroth, developers have mentioned in interviews that they heavily considered scra...
I wonder if the outdoor world will be updated to reflect any of this.
can someone tell me their opinion.. so which better as dps for shaman.. orc or maghar?
@spice cargo somewhere between 9-16 hours from now or something
its not sure if the patch will be today, tmr or at the end of the week
ty @stiff vector
they said they were planning to do it on tuesday @tulip torrent
oh i guess i missed that
hiya @split valley ❤
Secretly, but not openly.
Ya, but it is something! 😛
Kinda explains why Gazlowe may be going full out to help us too
Shatterspear is even mentioned, horde defending it
Feels like a copout tho. They can help, but still remain neutral.
Huh
I just found this one:
Ratcher plays at neutrality during peace, but serves the Horde in war. Discover the intentions of the Steamwheedle Cartel
Ratchet*
That means the alliance knows their little helping
Alliance Paladins are meant to be cleansing Southshore
But the horde try and stop them
Each mission has a counterpart
Therefore I don't see the world changing
yep
Which sucks. I want to actually see the Alliance having more hold over EK, and vice versa with Kalimdor
Steamwheedle IS aiding the horde
i mean, thats grounds for a mana bomb on steamwheedle
with the lich queen in charge~
Steamwheedle is goblins... Right?
Filthy goblins
But.... As far as EK and Kalim....
The Night Elves had been living in that tree for.... Longer than the Orcs had been in Kalim, longer than the Orcs have been in Azaroth tbh.
The Blood Elves had been in EK since before Humans really were around.
Two races I don't like.... (Not counting humans.... >.>)
Goblins....
And....
Gnomes....
New Lich King decided to just sit on the frozen throne and make like an ice sculpture.
You play the DK campaign?
He has been veeeeery busy
Then alliance will have a raid to save her
Lol
But Bolvar has been busy in the DK campaign, don’t let him fool you
He has four new horsemen after all
true
And watched all of Arthas’ memories to learn his secrets
but he hasnt gone.... public i guess is the word
Soon
goblins like always have helped the horde more than the alliance
You know, I’ll be honest, when people say it like that I hope she becomes the permanent warchief, just to screw with you idiots
gazlowe did help make new org
Just an honest thought though lol
(and old org, for that matter)
That's because the goblins are to the horde what the gnomes are to the alliance.
Very true nile
I was pissed that they killed Vol'Jin... He was my favorite.
The Steamweedle are "neutral" because you can buy them out with less money than the Bilgewater. Basically.
We all were Rhys, he was awesome
All goblins ever care about is money....
One flirt from the male goblins is just him jingling the coins in his pocket...
blizzard should've just crippled vol'jin or something not kill him :/
fcking faction "balance" for lore -_-
But now he is set up to become a loa so... idk
Steamweedle boss is the one decided to stay neutral. Gazlowe however has soft spot for Horde and when he can he helps them
loa ya, but id rather him be warchief
Oooohhh? Vol'Jin a Loa?
Watch him become the loa of light lol, both trolls get Paladins
True... He was the best Warchief.... Not counting Thrall... Thrall tried. Garrosh... Even all the Horde hated Garrosh.... XD
The Steemweedle help the Horde in times of war and are more neutral in times of peace. Literally what the faction missions state.
Loa of Light or Loa of Hope... Either way...
I mean
only near the end
Garrosh in every other circumstance was a fantastic warchief
Steamweedle as whole but Gazlowe is not the one commanding cartel only small part of it and he mostly was helping on his own
bitch 
With no cartel business
best garrosh moment
When he almost killed Tyrande?
Bah... Garrosh suffered from something alright....
Pride and Insanity
He almost killed Jaina
Yup! Like a real orc warrior
And Saurfang almost killed Malfurion
JAINA-CHAN
No.... Like a Hellscream....
Nah.
Garrosh suffered from bad writing.*
Honestly him becoming a tyrant would've made more sense to have the Mogu paralell stay.
Saurfang purposefully wounded, didn't kill.
The Old God shit was just "LEL EVVVVILLLLL" because Blizzard can't write a story without corruption.
It did Nile. o= he was forcing his soldiers into whatever he wanted using the old god.
And... He killed the leader of the Shadowpan.... Q-Q
The only difference is the mogu used blood magic and anima
which is corrupting in of itself. because of the curse of flesh.
Taran Zhu is still alive tho
He didn't kill Zhu
Anima =/= Curse of Flesh.
He is?
Yes.
Yay!
Idk the way it sounds, he hurt malf real bad, it might have been dishonorable to do that also
Did you not run SoO?
He's in the Monk Order Hall even
I love that old crabby Pandaren...
Anima's the building block of life that the Keepers used. It's as far away from the Curse of Flesh as possible.
It's the "orderly" way to make something fleshy.
I wouldn't know....
I can't even get into the Priest Order Hall... My laptop can't take the lag of New Dal.... Q-Q
Shaping the anima onto creatures to create things like the Saurok.
The Mission table in Battle for Azeroth is full of new lore about how the war is going in the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor. Learn all about it @Blizzplanetcom https://t.co/Nciggec49P
Interesting
I... Lost my other laptop when the Org raid and Warlords came out....
And this one is 8 years old and was given to me recently...
So... Not yet...
I missed alot of content... Unfortunately.
Well go watch the ending cinematic on youtube. It's a pretty good character growth moment.
I'll do that.
Well looking at that list
Nelfs are gonna die
Tauren are fighting dwarfs
New forts
Dwarfs plan to attack one of the most peaceful races, not evil btw
Knowing Dwarfs, they would collapse mulgore, not evil though
lol
nah, its all equal
Oh my it's almost like it's a retaliation attack
No.... I refuse to have my nelfs die....
They and the Draenai are my faves on Ally side.
horde can blight some children = alliance attacking tauren
Rhys the night elves died in Cataclysm
itd be all equal~
So many dead Nelfs, they won’t let Org fall again, sorry for your loss Vris
I meant extinction...
They've been dead to me since cata m8
and they're not going extinct
they're a main player race
Kk.... Just making sure.
Cata? When Nelf mages happened?
Nelf mages happened by Tyrande re-introducing the highborne back into night elf society after years of protest from them to return home and with the cataclysm forcing their hand
yes
BUt that's not what killed them for me
It's when Garrosh was able to station his horde deep into Ashenvale with little to no push back from the elves.
that was just bad writing, even us horde guys were confused
When Garrosh almost managed to kill Tyrande because she walked right into an ambush. When the horde freely walks sacred night elven land.
That's when the night elves died for me.
Ashenvale?
I got my horde toon onshotted by nelf NPCs when I accidentally stumbled on the little town there....
XD
can get lost in a video game with a minimap up, but never lost irl XD
yea in cataclysm the horde gets to set up DEEP in Ashenvale
and there's just no resistance.
Cuz horde GOTTA be the stronk guys
it is bad writing, it is never explained really how they got in there without being noticed
Well they are the stronk races
It's never explained how a bunch of ROTTING CORPSES are able to shift aroundAshenvale slaughtering civilians unnoticed either
Well.... It is easy as hell to level Alliance and harder to level Horde... Personal experience... And I don't do anything different either way.
Only thing I can think of is that the Night Elves grow weak to the color red
Like it's kryptonite or something
True reason why BE changed their colours to red
Remember that one scene in Pirates of the Caribbean where the corpses are walking underwater Vris? I like to think that
That'd work
IF THERE WAS AN UNDERWATER TO ASHENVALE
This is the night elves ancestral home man. Nature itself is on their side.
Tea out nose doesn't feel good.... Never drink when Vris is typing. XD


