Druids able to keep their forms?
#beta-ptr-spoilers
tropic trail
blizzard has said they'll be able to keep their forms, but no word on how exactly yet
eternal jay
Maybe a seperate tab in xmog?
tropic trail
I believe the possibility of a form transmog tab was mentioned
sudden oak
and what is that nonsense btw?
restive sage
wut
mystic mortar
"Harley - Today at 03:13
Druids able to keep their forms?
and if so how will it work" i think you have to xmog your weapons to artifact weapon and then you can just do it like you do it now
not sure tho
uncut vault
is that an official blizzard response?
mystic mortar
Nope, but knowing blizzard, this is most likely the way it will be
uncut vault
I mean they already have a system that works better
hollow dock
the only we've heard is that yes they want them to be carried, they just didn't have a system at the time
mystic mortar
Problem with the transmog part is, that it will force Ferals to use daggers again
uncut vault
we already know it wont be tied to xmog because druids cannot dual wield without their artifacts
meager warren
"don't play the bfa beta until i get in"
lmao. if you don't want spoilers, get out of this channel.
meager warren
no. you're welcome to use this channel.
it's just kinda stupid to look in here if you don't want spoilers when this is obviously the spoilers channel
steel venture
and demanding beta testers not to play
meager warren
^
meager warren
it may have been but unless they give prior warning that it's a joke, it's usually better to treat it as if it were serious
tropic trail
you shouldn't need to say "I'm about to tell a joke guys" before telling a joke
his post was very obviously a joke
meager warren
was it?
mint arch
eternal jay
😃
wild pewter
Jesus, some of you guys need to relax sometime. It was very obviously in jest.
meager warren
oh yes because stupid people don't exist
wild pewter
Oh the irony... 😄
meager warren
what irony? did i say i'm not stupid?
drifting schooner
guys i was wondering, have they said anything about prestige artifact appearances?
hollow dock
the PVP arti appearances? Those are staying.
They're treated like the other normal arti apperances.
drifting schooner
yea
but at lv 120 i ll need to do what to get them?
will the pvp system in BFA count for them or ?
hollow dock
Like I said, their treated teh same. The PVP system isn't changing. It's just becoming account wide.
drifting schooner
aha ok
near cosmos
I think what they're asking is whether progress towards the appearances on one character will auto unlock it for all other characters as well? 🤔
drifting schooner
na
just iif the prestiges will be kept
i have 3 on an account
will it keep in BFA and more over, when i make prestige in BFA will count for artifacts from legion?
hollow dock
yes.
As I said the PVP system isn't changing. It's the same one, they're just making Honor account wide.
drifting schooner
that s good and easier
near cosmos
good news cause I'll prob be pvping more (read: at all) in bfa with the bounty system and warfront system
hollow dock
Ima not bother tbh.
drifting schooner
hm? what are those system
near cosmos
aiming to have most characters at 110 at least before bfa launches, with the exception of monk probably
bounty: if someone kills a lot of players in open world pvp after toggling the pvp flag on, they get a bounty on their head and get shown on the map
and killing them will be worth increased conquest points
hollow dock
Alright so Warfront is a RTS style gamemode where you build buildings get accompanied by NPCs into battle to take out the enemies base
near cosmos
^
hollow dock
and yea Bounty is exactly as it sounds
drifting schooner
oh nice
drifting schooner
they said anything about WQ?
near cosmos
world quests are staying
hollow dock
the WQ system is coming
It's here to stay. Barely any of the systems introduced in legion are changing/being removed
near cosmos
I like WQs tbh, its a really good idea, especially for alts
near cosmos
I love how the rewards are updated live as well, like I started spamming heroics on a fresh 110 and suddenly the WQ rewards jumped 40 ilvls as I had jumped 50 ilvls lmao
what Im wondering about is heirlooms, there prob will be a new tier but haven't heard anything about them yet
drifting schooner
i am surprised of how old dngs were made
2 dngs on one map
and other hidden bosses < u need to go in a passage to get to them
hollow dock
Hierlooms won't get their new tier until like. Probably half-way through the expac
and the old dungeons are spliced up from their much older counterparts.
near cosmos
lol you want to talk about old dungeons, try BRD
That dungeon was a right shitshow
near cosmos
people STILL get confused on where to go in there to this day xD
hollow dock
I did cuz I wanted to just get to 110 faster.
near cosmos
I did because I discovered if I levelled through invasions I was squishier than a critter
and that
drifting schooner
lvling through invasions is a blessing
near cosmos
and a curse as you wont get gear
mfw I have 6 ranks of Concordance of Legionfall but 0/3 relics in my weapon
drifting schooner
you dont get at the last boss gear?
near cosmos
no lol
there is no last boss when levelling through invasions
the quest that pops up is for 110s only
near cosmos
I only lack 2 classes to have a full roster of 110s
have a 93 hunter and 21 velf monk that Ill get heritage armor on
my characters are so old that back when that hunter was made, humans couldnt even be hunters
😛
hollow dock
my hunter is so old that it still has 2 melee weapons on it
near cosmos
it was pre cata, I remember levelling hunter on my shitty £500 laptop while in class
10 years ago or so by now
lol my hunter had ammo on it somewhere until addons autosold it to a vendor
drifting schooner
when u had 2 melees on hunter?
drifting schooner
any tips to lv up faster w/o making quests and staying in q for dngs all the time?
near cosmos
my free 110 boost is probs gonna go unused unless I decide to boost a horde char so I can unlock their allied races without needing to level
drifting schooner
i mean, if i would only had 50 lvls, it would be fun, i like hunting animals and things like that
but 100 lvls....
that s what i did, boosted my blood elf
hollow dock
Well you gotta earn that armor
near cosmos
the void elf armor is gonna look boss af on a shadow priest
drifting schooner
i have void elf hunter
near cosmos
the instant I unlocked void elf I race changed my priest 😛
hollow dock
Eh.
They only have 1 in game
but the other was datamined out
its very likely that the heritage armors are supposed to have multiple tints to them
but since the allied races were rushed out, well.
near cosmos
I bet Thalyssra is regretting her life choices right about now
drifting schooner
i feel like void elf and others look good with only that specific tint
hollow dock
thats personal taste
drifting schooner
but nightbourne with red and purple looked nice
near cosmos
"hey so I know you were only just freed from a tyrant that committed heinous war crimes, but yea I'm gonna need you to go and commit some war crimes, on you go"
hollow dock
but das gewd riting
frank scroll
This is where u post bfa spoilers right
hollow dock
no this is the anti spoiler chat
frank scroll
Garrosh is killed by Thrall
hollow dock
oh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
how completely true sounding
drifting schooner
in the past, was also so hard to find dng group as dps?
drifting schooner
tank hunter would look nice:)))))
restive sage
c;
barren igloo
will we be able to play as vulpera before the xpac comes out?
hollow dock
Vulpera aren't an allied race
strange falcon
not yet
dense plover
Maybe not ever
terse patrol
my guess is
dense plover
The only two sets of confirmed races are dark iron/maghar and kul tiran/zandalari
They might come out after that
But the sethrakk would need a decent amount of armor work
terse patrol
The Horde might get a Suramar treatment in BFA's 8.2 patch.
aka
Work to help some faction, only for them to go Alliance.
Sweet justice.
dense plover
I mean
In this case
We actually are the ambassador
Vs legion
Where tyrande was the ambassador
And was less welcoming
Like if two equal sides offer you similar things
near cosmos
Im blaming her for costing us Snootborne
dense plover
But one is led by an asshole
near cosmos
TYRANDE Y
terse patrol
I'm hoping we free some sort of mutant sect of Naga from Azshara's slavery.
dense plover
And the other is led by someone who shared a similar past
I’d go with the second option
near cosmos
yuup
terse patrol
i want fish elves 
terse patrol
world of elfcraft when
I mean tbh, elves are what sell.
The people screaming for no elves are a vocal minority.
near cosmos
ngl I will always choose the pretty race
like if kul'tirans can be shamans then guess who's getting another £19 to get off spacegoat
spoiler: its blizzard
sudden oak
I think this is the only time honker and I will agree
since World of elfcraft is the best
rich apex
What's the percentage of tauren players
sudden oak
cant wait to have more elves
lunar abyss
I hope the broadcast text is leading us to getting sanguinar/do darkfallen as a playable race
hollow dock
I hope not. The backlash from a literal dead race being made allied but a prominent race being told no would be substantial.
lunar abyss
mystic mortar
Anyone know if there are any major class design changes still coming?
rich apex
At this point people are going to piss and moan regardless of what the next race is
steel venture
expect darkfallen to be just like dark rangers tbh when they're horde
elite, unplayable, kept close to sylvanas's chest
lunar abyss
hollow dock
@mystic mortar there's absolutely 0 plans to change the classes at all and everything is going to live exactly as it is on beta. :p
strange falcon
hollow dock
You know that this is beta and so absolutely no changes will ever happen from here on out
terse patrol
lmao
sharp bluff
Hopefully for Frost lol
mystic mortar
There are alot of specs that would need one rn
terse patrol
i dont like dual wield frost
DKs should either be sword and shield or two handers imo
eternal jay
I dont think DKs can wield shields can they?
sharp bluff
DK shields would rock, but I doubt it sadly
balmy ingot
i hope it will come future Mech Goblin/Goblin.. new type of Druid tank/dps/range/healer
😄
new mech robot
goblin/gnome*
dense plover
How do you unprune though? The purpose of Legion pruning was to make each class distinct and that was accomplished. I do not want to return to the days of every class having a buff that does the same thing or a bunch of classes having charge. I like what legion pruning did
mystic mortar
Bringing back baseline abilities that are talents now, would be an excellent start
dense plover
Such as?
hollow dock
You can unprune by bringing back more buffs. Give people the illusion of lots of buttons to press.
mystic mortar
Savage Roar, and basically everything from affinities for Feral druid for example
dense plover
But every class doesn’t need self buffing abilities
What’s wrong with savage roar as a talent? Is it much better than the other stuff on the tier?
Why should it be baseline?
meager warren
i just want them to put the "growl-off" talent back on the pet talents bar, for hunter
dense plover
That’s more a QoL than a prune
mystic mortar
Thats the better question
dense plover
If it’s useless
mystic mortar
It always has been
mystic mortar
Y and why not make it baseline lmao
dense plover
Why add another button to your rotation though?
Why not make it baseline?
Because we don’t need buttons just to push buttons
If your rotation feels too slow
There are talents to change that
mystic mortar
Ye cause spamming the same 3 buttons is way more fun
dense plover
That’s what talents are for
Then they need to change the rotation
Enhancement shaman is about 5 buttons
meager warren
spamming the same three buttons isn't more fun.
but it's easier
dense plover
It’s fun as hell
It’s not about the number of buttons
It’s about how impactful they feel
Feral does good dps last I checked
But the rest of it’s buttons are rather lackluster
So instead of adding more buttons
Why not fix the ones they have?
Adding more doesn’t make something better
Quality > Quantity
dense plover
They removed duplicate utility
Most classes have one that is unique to them in some way
Or sometimes they dont
mystic mortar
Compare Wotlk Spellbook to Legion Spellbook and then tell me that Wotlk spells didnt have "quality"
dense plover
It’s called cariety
Hey didnt
They didn’t
Wrath was 4 bars of buttons
Half of them were extremely situational
And a quarter of the ones that weren’t situational were pointless
mystic mortar
Yes and those situational spells made the difference between a decent and a good player
Knowing when to use those
dense plover
That’s not skill though
Being able to push more faster isn’t skill
You can have skill with less buttons
Tanking is proof of that
dense plover
Not the kind of skill you want
It’s not interesting
Interesting is making the right decision when you need to
Knowing when to use a stun or hex or polymorph
Or when to use your buff to save the group
When to use surrender to madness
Or if you even should
mystic mortar
Back in the day you had to use frostbolt as fire mage or arcane for example
Knowing when to was skill
When to hibernate as druid
dense plover
Yeah and that was overlap
mystic mortar
When to offheal as feral
dense plover
Hibernate is coming back
dense plover
Yeah
dense plover
Dude
tropic trail
can't you use the honor talents on the pvp realms in BfA?
dense plover
It’s like you’ve done no research about BfA but want changes that are in BfA
Hibernate is baseline for druids again
hollow dock
there are no PVP realms Green
dense plover
Honor talents can be used all the time during war mode
hollow dock
and yes while in the war phase you will have PVP talents unlocked
mystic mortar
Ayy 1 ability is coming back
mystic mortar
From the 500 they removed or made not baseline
dense plover
I don’t want wrath classes back
mystic mortar
I never said i want "Wrath classes" back
dense plover
All the comparisons you’ve given are to wrath classes
Which had way too much fat
And very little of a good core rotation
hollow dock
and heck, when I -did- pvp I was to busy. ya know. PVPing. killing players and getting objective than sitting and casting something that didn't kill people
dense plover
The only stuff I miss from wrath is Druid form quests
mystic mortar
90% of the comparisons work for vanilla - cataclysm
hollow dock
Retadins filled out nearly 4 action bars of abilities
used only 3. sometimes 4 for a rotation
fun times.
mystic mortar
the ones that dont were just because Wotlk is the expansion i played the most
so i just do it naturally
I could also go to mop and name u 500 abilites that they removed, which was pointless
hollow dock
like eyes of the beast
such a useful ability
Ignore the fact that most of the pruned abilities either became passives or baked into your class
cuz that's what the pruning did
dense plover
Balance Druid just needs full moon baseline
Frost just needs number tweaks
Frost has no rotation issues at all
They haven’t started number tweaking
hollow dock
cuz ya know
mystic mortar
It looks more like they havent started class design
hollow dock
They are doing it class/spec by spec
dense plover
Do you have beta access?
dense plover
^
mystic mortar
Nope, I dont
hollow dock
Have you been keeping up with each class balance patch applied to the PTR?
dense plover
I do
hollow dock
cuz they're doing a lot of work for the classes
dense plover
Number tweaking hasn’t been done at all
hollow dock
Its just mostly secondary stuff since it was all alpha and now that its beta we can worry about classes more.
dense plover
Class design feels mostly solid
Except for Druid needing full moon baseline
And lots of number tweaking
And a bit of changes to warrior stulk
Still
strange falcon
good rule is "don't talk out of your ass if you're saying stuff based on what you " heard" without having actually tested it yourself 👌
dense plover
^
Bingo
I’ve been testing this stuff myself
Only people complaining are those that liked big numbers or are still playing live and aren’t able to get used to the GCD changes
I actually think Ion was right about those changes
I actually have had to think about which button to press in different situations
It creates compelling gameplay
mystic mortar
The GCD changes are the worst decision they ever made but k
dense plover
Weong
Wrong
I’m the one whose been playing it
You are one who is talking out of their ass
It was a good change
strange falcon
i agree the GCD changes are good except on those classes with too many cooldowns like fury warr
dense plover
They’ve also made changes to big attacks bosses do
strange falcon
and I have beta
dense plover
To let you know the areas of affect
strange falcon
been testing a few classrs
dense plover
To replace the functionality that was lost in warlords
Fury needs fewer buff abilities
mystic mortar
Hmm who should i trust
dense plover
They need some of them to be merged with regular attacks
mystic mortar
90% of the people who play the game say they are bad changes
dense plover
And they need some of them to be removed
mystic mortar
some idiot with a minecraft picture who instantly insults me tells me they are good
hollow dock
personalized insults
dense plover
We don’t do insults you know
hollow dock
that's how you know they've got nothing left
mystic mortar
"I’m the one whose been playing it
You are one who is talking out of their ass"
dense plover
Yeah that’s not an insult
hollow dock
that is a fact.
dense plover
You haven’t played it
You are talking out of your ass
A figure of speech
Not an insult
barren latch
Behave.
tawny tree
I'd appreciate if both you would calm a bit down.
mystic mortar
How am I talking out of my ass?
strange falcon
as has been shown in 99% of cases over the course of the history of mankind,
when someone uses a personal insult to prove the other person wrong,they truly have nothing left to argue,and thus revert to the closest possible "comeback"
mystic mortar
I have seen basically every change they have made and i have an opinion on it
strange falcon
now calm down
dense plover
But you are saying they are right
tawny tree
We all have different opinions on certain subjects. But don't start attacking eachother for one's ideas or opinions.
mystic mortar
Ofcourse I am saying that people who literally have the same idea about gameplay like me, are right when they say that a change is bad
Especially if I read the change and immediatly think that it is bad
dense plover
That’s not my problem
tawny tree
Regardless of what the outcome is. I'd advice you to drop the subject.
hollow dock
Heck people attack me for my high elf pic. cuz they hate elves.
dense plover
My problem is you saying 90% of something. It isn’t 90% it’s just the loud voices of uoutubers
strange falcon
most of the people you see moaning on the forums,are just talking from a "knee-jerk" first impact impression,without actually having tested it
you know everyone can browse wowhead
that doesn't further prove your point
hollow dock
Those are the same guys that hate the Unholy changes that fixed the spec in BFA and think that Microholidays are a waste of time because they dont reward you stuff
I wouldn't be using their opinions to justify your own
mystic mortar
?????????????
Who said that I was proving my point?
He said that only "youtubers" dont like the gcd changes
Do you even read, fam?
hollow dock
So you're not using them to prove your point
tropic trail
what was the point of linking that if you aren't trying to prove your point?
ruby star
O_O
dense plover
Loud youtubers are just the biggest part of the vocal minority
And a lot of people haven’t play tested these changes
Most of them in fact
As someone playing them
It actually is either barely noticeable or pretty good feeling
Because it feels great to time a buff just right
strange falcon
just like how a vocal minority brought all the bad PR to highelf fans because they had to be super toxic temper tantrum children on the forums while vris and drorith here are well-behaved...most of the time
hollow dock
In which most of the complaints with the new GCDs is that utility spells that are used for immediate reaction couldn't
which ended up harming playstyles a lot more than help
and that got fixed with beta's launch
tropic trail
5 different ways to get angry
dense plover
Pretty much
If they mixed some of the buffs into attack abilities
Weakened the buffs
And gave them shorter durations
They would rock
Think the two buff attacks for enhancement shaman
dense plover
Yeah pretty much would work too
Only real problem would be how to nerf duration and cooldown
mystic mortar
Triggered
hollow dock
Like rampage triggers one of their buffs rather than having it a separate buff to press.
dense plover
But they can figure it out
hollow dock
On BFA, are demons still locked to using up a soul shard to summon? for warlocks obviously
olive mirage
well thats not right http://puu.sh/AgKH8/574df19802.jpg
hollow dock
that quite didn't hit the mark
uncut vault
getting ready to throw the book
dense plover
What do you mean about summon @hollow dock
uncut vault
they do still cost a shard
dense plover
Is that a problem? Don’t you get two or three shards when rested or when you enter a new raid?
uncut vault
🤷
hollow dock
You do. It's more of a leveling complaint. Finding it currently a bit annoying to have the demon die mid combat or finish a combat and have to re-summon it since I don't have health funnel yet. that's about it.
#firstworldproblems
uncut vault
looks like theyre gonna be implementing proper inns on kul tiras
some of the extra assets are moved around
meager warren
wdym by proper inns?
uncut vault
the alliance hub has one tiny rest area, and it's a doorstep with a closed door and an innkeeper outside
the assets for the entrance, mailboxes, and some window glows have been moved around
so we're probably gonna get a full inside of an inn in a build soon
ruby star
How come alliance get only 1 portal? I assume the others will get added as its beta?
tropic trail
It's just their subtle way of saying you should play horde
uncut vault
hubs very much not finished
uncut vault
only just got a full market last build
tfw I cant play a real dark skinned elf on any faction :((
tropic trail
I'd rather have Mag'har orcs work than have completely finished hubs
tulip sun
The portals I am sure will be added eventually
rich apex
Considering the Zuldazar portal hub
has a portal to Undercity
It is probably indeed not finished
plush umbra
So, question, do you get any special stuff on the first character you create on the BFA beta server?
plush umbra
is that just for the first character or for all of them?
hollow dock
all of em
plush umbra
ok cool
ruby star
If you look at the moon closely at night you can see Ion's face with really low opacity
Worth a try
plush umbra
I was asking cause I was worried I'd need to pick my first class wisely
also, are the allied races auto-unlocked in the beta?
hollow dock
yes they are for testing
plush umbra
Nice.
plush umbra
I just hope they get unique animations instead of reused ones (not a fan of that. Or the female Blood elf melee animations)
hollow dock
I mean.
You don't know allied races then :p
cuz theyre the same base skeleton, and all accompanying animations, different skinned model.
tulip sun
^^ That is exactly the point, haha
near cosmos
nothing that says they cant make unique animations in the future, they probably just wanted to finish it so people had a chance to get heritage armor before bfa launches
very few things finish faster than Ctrl-C -> Ctrl-V
uncut vault
same animations arent a requirement, just a bonus
kul tirans have a unique rig
in loose words from blizz a while back, everything can be an allied race, its a matter of efficiency, community demand, and relevancy
near cosmos
thats cause kul'tirans are 乇乂ㄒ尺卂 ㄒ卄丨匚匚
tropic trail
anything can be an allied race you say? better not tell Ion that, because high elves meet literally all of those conditions
steel venture
a matter of efficiency
Anything you give to a helf makes no sense to not give to a belf.
hence the real issue.
steel venture
^ No, I know it's a weak reason but we also all know it's gonna be Blizzard's primary excuse.
They literally only view the helf/belf issue as Pandaren 2.0
Which they don't wanna do.
hollow dock
despite the fact that the community has offered numerous different ways to make them stand out to blood elves. Even going as far to pointing out AU azeroth
steel venture
Yep. All cause they don't wanna do like, a tiny retcon to explain the different looks--despite them retconing like everything else.
hollow dock
they dont even have to retcon anything
they jus thave to use the lore that already exists
steel venture
(like just have it that high elves from hinterlands or something have their own slightly distinct look due to living around there for a while or something to let them go wild with it)
uncut vault
theyre already involving auric, who was part of alleria's band, who all can look just like she does
steel venture
since thats
hollow dock
Or have them be more druidic.
steel venture
literally all lightforged and highmountain are
a minor recolor with a different origination area.
uncut vault
Highvale elves or Outland elves are the two prevailing ideas, having them merge with the silver covenant (which ion apparently doesnt know exists)
tropic trail
even without the silver covenant there's still more high elves than there are currently void elves
Hell, they could just take the high elves that are living in dalaran, they wouldn't even need to create a race hub
hollow dock
well
tbh
Dal is neutral
so it'd be weird for it to be inexplicably alliance again
tropic trail
It should go alliance again now that legion is over
hollow dock
Jaina's not on the council. Khadgar's leading it
everyones pretty neutral at this point once more.
I dont see the reason why it'd go alliance.
tropic trail
but dadgar will be like "nah, knowledge is power, I don't care if my race dies"
I thought a few of the council members voted against letting the horde in, that was never expanded upon in legion tho if I remember correctly
uncut vault
I thought it was less neutral, more "allow the horde in again" still an alliance city, just one willing to work with the horde, as opposed to a truly neutral organization like the argent crusade
rich apex
Pretty neutral once they let the Sunreavers rejoin the Kirin Tor
And then booted/murdered them, of course
But then let the Horde back in again
hollow dock
the only one that voted against the horde left with Jaina
tropic trail
neutral factions just seem weird at this point, since this war is supposed to be such a large scale, you'd think the alliance and horde would be pressing them to join a side.
hollow dock
The faction war is just stupid tho. not hard to just ignore it
tropic trail
2 capitals have already been destroyed, pretty hard to ignore it
rich apex
I would say, assuming Dalaran will be relevant again
But they did make Dalaran relevant in MoP
tropic trail
I mean, why would the cenarion circle ignore the burning of a world tree?
rich apex
Assuming the majority of the Cenarion Circle hasn't already returned to their respective factions
Same with any other major group
Like all those fancy class orders
Liadrin don't give a shit about my Alliance Pally anymore
true matrix
bringing back the faction war was just. a Bad Idea all around at this point
"oh boy we finally defeated the burning legion by working together and forming lifetime bonds! time to ＭＵＲＤＥＲ ＥＡＣＨ ＯＴＨＥＲ"
rich apex
in before azerite is corrupting everyone
olive mirage
so herb spawns are a tad broken http://puu.sh/AgWpd/c995fd34fc.jpg
rich apex
Welcome to beta
true matrix
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
true matrix
hm?
terse patrol
Naga who fell in love with a gnome lol
tropic trail
did someone say gnome naga hybrid allied race confirmed?
lyric jacinth
This may or may not be the right place to put this but...
If anyone knows how to get rid of the issue involving Beta not loading due to a "Can't load 3D engine" (or something like that) pls DM me.
i7-8700k @5ghz, NVidia GTX 1080ti-11gb, 2x 960 EVO M.2 SSDs, Up to date drivers. This pc should be able to run the entire SpaceX program while playing wow on 4 screens on ULTRA lol (just wont load the BETA!)
Thx in advance 😃
empty ice
have you tried turning it off and on again?
dense plover
What version of directX do you have installed
What operating system
Have you tried the repair tool?
willow frost
lyric jacinth
Running win 10. Tried repair, reinstall &I have DX9 and DX11.
Do I maybe need DirectX 12?
hollow dock
have you restarted your computer recently? Sometimes the drivers bug out.
clever ember
@Silen#7680 Check out the tech forums for wow/beta. Someone might have a solution there. If you can’t find an established thread for your issue. Make a new one and they will help you out.
olive mirage
the beta armor doesnt look half bad http://puu.sh/AheDv/19a7d289ea.jpg
olive mirage
karmic copper
They're gonna fix worgen females
Ime excited for worgen and goblin updates too, comparing them to new models for humans they really need an update
terse patrol
werewolves should be hunched over.
They're not furries, who stand like people.
They're cursed lycanthropes.
olive mirage
and who said all werewolves need to be hunched
mystic mortar
I wonder how many alliance druids will race switch once kultirans come out
Jesus said so
@olive mirage
olive mirage
why ping, im right here
tranquil steeple
i am jesus now, and i say no
legit tho nah idk i just said something 'cause i was bored, dipping out
terse patrol
Female worgen aka feral chihuahuas
clever ember
We’re not going to see the updates for them for a while. Probably not until after BfA ends, if we’re lucky. They’re more focused on allied races right now.
tranquil steeple
experimental overgrown feral chihuahuas
clever ember
I hate the female worgen perma snarl.
hollow dock
they had only really said "It won't be at BFA's launch"
terse patrol
If they fix worgen, I might actually roll one.
serene zodiac
I miss my cata beta Worgen. back when the males had lips and the females looked like...not chihuahuas.
tropic trail
gilneas is restored in BFA?
hollow dock
Unknown Dut
tropic trail
wiki says "Gilneas has become a point of power for the Alliance in the northern Eastern Kingdoms, with the peninsula kingdom having been restored strong enough to the point that the Horde cannot directly assault it as they once had during the original Invasion of Gilneas.
Following the destruction of the Undercity, the Horde moves on Arathi Highlands in an attempt to destroy the new Alliance base in Stromgarde in a warfront. This is done to prevent the Alliance's full control over the Eastern Kingdoms and use Stromgarde as a staging point for attacking Gilneas.[3]"
jovial coral
dim flower
eternal jay
-.-
zinc sandal
Vampiric elves? What could possibly go wrong?
rich apex
People could assume that a single appearance of an NPC is confirmation of a new Allied Race
uncut vault
I mean, I think its more based off of the literal "theyre trying to prove themselves and join the horde" line
rich apex
Two of them are, thus far
From a fragment of a quest
Like if they get a new model capable of equipping normal armor, when we actually see the quest in beta?
I'll totally acknowledge it's a possibility
But until then, bit early to go on the 'vampire elves are going to ruin WoW' cry
zinc sandal
They just need to be careful not to have a different type of elf every batch of allied races they release
Especially when they're just reskins of one another
rich apex
Ion: we've been reading the feedback on the forums and saw that you guys really want more elves
zinc sandal
:))))))
rich apex
I mean
All the Horde purists are saying vulpera are too cute and fluffy to be Horde
Vampire elves should be edgy enough to satisfy them
tropic trail
vampire elves?
rich apex
San'alyn
(Who are probably not going to be playable)
(I say this, after having once said that Highmountain would never be playable)
tropic trail
why more elves
zinc sandal
Because World of Elfcraft?
zinc sandal
Never enough elves
steel venture
Maybe that's what they're gonna release high elves with.
LAUGHS
tropic trail
why would they put more elves in allied races
i thought the idea was to have counterparts to each race
steel venture
Because fans won't shut up.
rich apex
They've literally never said that
rich apex
And vulpera share nothing with goblins besides a skeleton
tropic trail
if u want vampire elves that bad be my guest
rich apex
Considering there's 8+ Allied Races for me to pick from
I'm not gonna pitch a fit over a single one regardless of what Blizz goes with
tropic trail
just think it would be nicer to have more unique ones
tho i dont like the idea of Vulpera as allied races they should just be added outright
uncut vault
the whole racial counterpart was a fan theory, so far theres nothing really pointing to it
rich apex
(Much less Blizz changing the plans they already have for whatever the rest of the Allied Races will be for BFA)
tropic trail
give us a new race for each faction in 2020 thx
rich apex
They sure ain't gonna be commenting on what they're doing for 2020 anytime soon
tropic trail
well aware
new neutral race would be cool actually
hero classes should be moved to their own tab if they continue with this, Races/Allied Races/Hero Classes since they all have unique start zones and stuff and things
steel venture
New neutral isn't happening unless it's """neutral"""
rich apex
Lots of things would be cool
tropic trail
remember seeing something about a turtle race for allied
rich apex
Question of what's actually feasible to implement/ties into BFA
tropic trail
fan idea
steel venture
(Where it's the same race, technically. But locked on both factions already.)
tropic trail
but an existing race apparently
rich apex
Fans have a lot of ideas, but fans usually ain't game developers
(Tho I would 100% play a tortollan)
tropic trail
apparently they're in Zandalar and Kul Tiras
steel venture
IMO: The next "neutral" should be naga if we get Azshara out of power.
rich apex
Alas, the tortollans don't look like they can equip armor
Or have a distinct female model
tropic trail
though the idea of "Neutral Allied" race is kindof an oxymoron
rich apex
And neutral races don't really fit into the faction war expansion
steel venture
With naga you can make two distinct tribes, with their own mutations to distinguish them on both factions.
rich apex
(Except the faction war will be over soon enough to make way for N'zoth, so who knows)
tropic trail
i dont know the turtle lore
but i vaguely remember seeing a screenshot of allied race screen with an empty spot for neutral
uncut vault
will almost certainly never grt a neutral allied race, because A) goes against the system and B) blizzard doesnt want to do a pandaren style thing again
tropic trail
what do they mean by "pandaren style thing" though
just choosing a faction right off the bat isnt bad
rich apex
A neutral player race
steel venture
Hence why I say distinct tribed with different mutations.
tropic trail
but the turtles are cool thats what really matters
rich apex
I feel like it's too conveniently to just have 1 new race to say they'll -never- do it again
But who knows
Plenty of Allied Race concepts to go
Even if they add 10 per expansion
(if they do go up to 10)
tropic trail
huh someone told me they did
rich apex
Beyond a small scenario for the recruitment quest
tropic trail
lies, all lies
tropic trail
sucks
rich apex
That's why we're getting 8 Allied Races
instead of 1-2 fully unique model races with a full starting zone
You can X or you can have Y
Can't have both
uncut vault
the only requirement for allied races is a faction specific induction questline
tropic trail
so they could not just do that with tortollans?
uncut vault
theres nothing indicating they need same skeletons, a racial counterpart, or anything
tropic trail
give em fucking ninja turtle bandanas to show their alignment lul
rich apex
Or they make a new one that can
uncut vault
the way blizz did the first batch shows that literally anything can be an allied race
doesnt need to be set up by lore
rich apex
New lore?
uncut vault
doesnt need a preexisting skeleton
rich apex
horrified gasp
tropic trail
whats the candidates for new full-out races, not variants, besides vulpera
rich apex
People are -saying- sethrak
But sethrak also don't seem to wear normal armor
And sethrak don't have a female model
uncut vault
they can, its just not set up properly
rich apex
They could add one later on, of course
uncut vault
also they do have one, its just restricted to a few mobs
rich apex
Given vulpera/sethrak wouldn't be out until 8.2
tropic trail
unpopular opinion but why would allied races need both genders
they can make up bullshit lore reasons
rich apex
Eh, they all look the same to me, just with diffenent armor
tropic trail
or some probably already exist
uncut vault
even if they do make them playable with both genders we currently see, theyd share a skeleton and anims anyways
which also isnt unprecedented, because gnomes do that too
rich apex
It's totally possible
But all we can speculate slightly more reliably off of is what's in the beta
And what's in the beta is just the vulpera, who have a wide variety of customization, animation, and being able to wear armor
But when Blizz sure won't comment on 8.2 this early
Who knows
dense plover
Sethrakk do have genders
It’s mostly visible in the armor bits
And where the clothing is on the models
Voice is the main indicator though
dense plover
Waist and a bit of shoulder
uncut vault
male models have wider waists that arent covered up
tropic trail
only 4 (or 5?) away from full set of allied races anyways
rich apex
I would assume that the model itself would have a label 'sethrakfemale' or some shit
dense plover
Shoulder armor is shorter on the males too
rich apex
But of course, just because Wowhead hasn't datamined it, does not mean it doesn't exist
I will certainly be impressed if they do end up playable
Without snek tiddies
dense plover
I mean
There is no model difference
It’s the same model
There’s nothing to datamine
tropic trail
they'd need customisable faces anyway wouldnt they just make more defined gender faces
uncut vault
I mean if they need to add a difference (which IMO they dont need to add that much) they can add the flare spikes that sethraliss has
dense plover
^^
rich apex
Hopefully there will be a non-tiddie difference, yes
serene zodiac
SNAKE TIDDIES
tropic trail
least popular race right off the bat
uncut vault
sethraliss has the most obvious differences, a lot sharper than the men
and also sniddies
tropic trail
scaly boobs
tropic trail
why are kul tiran humans fat
uncut vault
so yeah, sniddies
serene zodiac
snits
uncut vault
the intention is them being bulky because they have a rough sea life
serene zodiac
I love the big kul tirans
tropic trail
just need to go on a diet
chubby as pandarens
the women wont be tho how else will blizzard sell BFA
serene zodiac
have you seen the kul tiran ladies? they're fat too. it's great.
serene zodiac
it's on wowhead
tropic trail
is she the only one capable of a diet
uncut vault
not all kul tirans are big
serene zodiac
there's normal sized people in kultiras too
serene zodiac
"normal sized" human models I guess
uncut vault
I mean different body types exist so there should be
serene zodiac
right
tropic trail
we need just fat people
serene zodiac
fat people aren't real
rich apex
Let me get back on my midget capable of wielding a giant sword
olive mirage
so i found a druid only Inn in the middle of the woods
rich apex
And going toe to toe with a demigod
olive mirage
tropic trail
whats with the "thin humans" looking anorexic
rich apex
serene zodiac
pandaren still win in being fat
tropic trail
its from one extreme to another
serene zodiac
because there are scrawny people too?
tropic trail
not my point
rich apex
The thin humans are super thin because they recycled the Forsaken model
tropic trail
dont make wow an sjw game anyway thats fuckin retarded
rich apex
🤔
serene zodiac
I mean you're the only one upset
rich apex
'what if humans had some body type variety'
tropic trail
so are these different body types actually selectable
rich apex
'omfg muh SJWs ruined everything'
tropic trail
like how orcs can now visit a chiropractor
no im talking about "other body types need representation"
clever ember
We don’t know yet. They’re not in beta to test at the moment.
tropic trail
no they really dont its a fantasy game
rich apex
There's no different body types
tropic trail
give us morbidly obese night elves
serene zodiac
Character customization? In MY video games?
rich apex
I'd play a fat elf
tropic trail
if it comes at the expense of real content for "representation" it is stupid
is all i am saying
serene zodiac
I made a fat elf in eso, it was fantastic
serene zodiac
you're literally the only person who is upset
tropic trail
again thats not what im talking about
rich apex
😂
tropic trail
jesus brb gonna talk to a brick wall
rich apex
Can't believe Blizz has bowed to the SJW Conspiracy
What's next
A woman who can be a hero and don't need a man
serene zodiac
who loses by having different body types?
serene zodiac
I mean jaina already exists
olive mirage
its almost like blizzard has different teams that work on different things, we havnt sacrificed content for new allied races
rich apex
Oh, god forbid, a woman Warchief
serene zodiac
sacrilege
plush umbra
All you guys are misunderstood
tropic trail
wtf do u mean sylvanas is a trap
rich apex
(You can't make a Sylvanas PMS joke because Sylvanas's body doesn't function anymore)
rich apex
Damn straight
serene zodiac
oh yeah that walking barrel body
tropic trail
you may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like
serene zodiac
unf
plush umbra
lmao
rich apex
👌
I mean
Did you see Taran Zhu when he fights Garrosh
Garrosh is prime orc warrior
plush umbra
he's also dumbest orc warrior
rich apex
And Taran Zhu goes at him with his bare hands
plush umbra
Garrosh was the reason I left the Horde
I just don't have a reason to come back now cause I have void elves
tropic trail
anyways, besides what u guys thought i was saying, more character customisation would be cool, especially body-types along the line of fat/thin humans and normal-postured orcs (where normal-postured forsaken?)
rich apex
serene zodiac
undead elf customization for forsaken inc
tropic trail
that and it would be fuckin weird to see a fat draenei so that should be top of their priority list
rich apex
Straight back undead isn't confirmed yet
plush umbra
As someone who plays a lot of 14 I can agree
WoW could do with some character customization
plush umbra
since WoW's is... well, pretty bare bones
tropic trail
or maybe they're for like malnourished humans who literally cant
serene zodiac
they're still kind of hunchy
rich apex
WoW's a 13 year old MMO
plush umbra
yeah I know
tropic trail
which means they have plenty of time to refine it
plush umbra
^
rich apex
And thus we got all the stuff we currently have