Awesome. Thank you so much đ That is where I get the Amani Heads for Deterrent right?
#beta-ptr-spoilers
uncut jetty
dense plover
it should be marked on the map
tulip sun
-waits for all troll tribea to join horde-
So i found out that one of the visions un MoP was voljin destroying the alliance and making a horde empite on scale with the old troll ones...
That would be amazing
uncut jetty
Star Wars anyone? đ
rich apex
The cutscene placeholders are the best
dim flower
I loved the Dragon Soul placeholder
rich apex
'oh man this battle at the undercity is looking grim, what could turn the tide'
THRALL'S BACK BABY
and deathwing i guess
uncut jetty
I think the deathwing cutscene is a placeholder because that's the same cutscene from the cata raid
uncut jetty
No it's not
dim flower
kk
terse patrol
Curious to see what these Sanâlayn are all about. I think they might be undead Highborne. (Not high elves)
Because Shandris knows both Dreven and Areiel, from three thousand years ago.
terse patrol
^
sudden oak
its just Areiel that knows shandris from three thousand years ago
rich apex
Not that I'm dying to play one đ
terse patrol
Dreven knows Shandris though
rich apex
Hopefully they'll at least remove the idlebounce if it does actually happen
sudden oak
I mean it would be hard not to know someone as important as shandris if they are at war with the alliance
terse patrol
My guess is? Theyâre a group of Highborne who researched Vryâkul blood magic, or were cursed by a Vryâkul artifact.
And became Vampyr
And maybe Shandris was sent to hunt them down.
sudden oak
id say they are the same san'layn as the ones that belonged to the scourge and survived
terse patrol
Then how does Shandris know Areiel from three thousand years ago? @sudden oak
Night Elves had no part in the Troll Wars.
dim flower
Is orc racial still bugged?
sudden oak
Areiel is a dark ranger not a san'layn as far as I know
terse patrol
And how she would have met Shandris three thousand years ago
rich apex
Once the quest is actually in game and we see the model đ
terse patrol
Iâm calling undead Highborne. But thatâs just me.
Theyâd be cooler imo
Let the Horde get a second Nelf allied race, let the Alliance get Helves.
Done.
Balanced, as all things should be.
uncut vault
night elves helped in the troll wars
terse patrol
where
ruby prawn
In the war
uncut vault
emmarel
terse patrol
Where does it say that?
I looked at her Wowpedia, it says nothing about the Troll Wars.
Shandris wasnât in the Troll Wars either.
Read her page.
ruby prawn
I don't remember anything about the nelves in the troll wars either
terse patrol
Which means the ONLY way they could know Shandris, is if theyâre Highborne.
ruby prawn
It was only humans, dwarves and gnomes vs trolls, right?
terse patrol
Humans and Elves vs Trolls
Helves*
The Helves taught the humans magic during the war.
terse patrol
The Nigh Elves were dealing with the War of the Satyr if I recall, or they were during the Long Vigil.
Aka, thousands of years of doing jack shit
ruby prawn
Lol poor females
terse patrol
Anyways
ruby prawn
Imagine feminism back then
terse patrol
These Sanlayn must have been Highborne.
Thereâs no way theyâre blood elf Sanâlayn, unless Blizzard writes that Night Elves helped in the Troll Wars for some reason.
sudden oak
I mean I doubt all the San'layn were in ICC at the same time
terse patrol
wat
That has no bearing on the subject.
ICC didnât even exist three thousand years ago.
sudden oak
I meant in the there is no way they are blood elf San'layn
they could be a group that survived the assault to the crimson halls in ICC
terse patrol
Then why does this Areiel character know Shandris from three thousand years ago
sudden oak
because as I said Areiel is not a San'layn she is a dark ranger which we know nothing about
terse patrol
Then how did Areiel meet Shandris three thousand years ago?
terse patrol
Weâll see. But having yet another blood elf variant that isnât a high elf would be lame.
uncut vault
"Thas'dorah is a mighty bow indeed! The weapon was carved from a limb of Thas'alah, the mother tree of Eversong, and infused with the magic of the Sunwell. I fought alongside its first wielder, Talanas Windrunner, during an Amani troll incursion."
terse patrol
I guess weâre going to find out Shandris and Co. helped the High Elves for some reason, and thatâs why shes developed a fetish for humans.
Lets just forget that the Night Elves hated the High Elves for a long time for, in their mind, learning nothing from the Well of Eternity.
terse patrol
She has blood elf noises in Legion.
uncut vault
she has the same noises as all high elves and dark rangers
the night elf noises without elune stuff
terse patrol
but ye.
Iâll be disappointed if the sanâlayn are blood elves.
If theyâre an allied race
If theyâre not an allied race, theyâre almost certainly going to betray Sylvanas.
dense plover
Sanlayn are canonically blood elves I thought
Are they not?
I thought they were blood elves who starved off their withering by drinking blood
And were undead because of arthas
Something like that
Iâm obviously not 100% on the details
uncut jetty
I fell through the floor and I get disconnected as soon as I login now đŚ I really don't want to start all over
terse patrol
@mrpeach774#0924 They are, but they could easily claim Sanâlayn is an ancient term for vampiric elves.
But more than likely though
Theyâre just goin to say Shandris, spurred by her lust for humans, aided in the Trolls Wars.
Hence why she knows Dreven.
sudden oak
@dense plover yeah the san'layn are canonically blood elves but not by drinking blood
arthas killed the forces of kael'thas when he and Illidan assaulted the Icecrown glacier
and he raised and made them like that
how is something we dont know
at how more san'layn could be made maybe by biting them like Lanathel does in the boss fight
or by sharing blood like the worgens in fenris isle
dim flower
why is second wind so good
like 3 man quest
oh i know
i'll spec second wind
then run away when i'm low
ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
slate ingot
ye thats the dolphin glyph
Zandalari Empire qmaster hasn't been updated from what I can see
dim flower
this is a very interesting map
apparently, anduin's crotch goes into the orc warrior's face
very interesting 
sudden oak
its indeed interesting 
inner belfry
@dim flower lol noticed that one too, either some1 at blizz had some fun or a interesting bug
dim flower
This has to be one of my favorite beta quirks ever
strange falcon
in the recent interview with blizzard,they said this interesting line about allied races in bfa: So first we looked at the geography of the space and who the inhabitants were. In some cases we drew from the lore that's out there - it's obvious who's in Zandalar, for example - but in other cases, we had to think about what an interesting race would be to inhabit that area, and in some cases we had to think about inventing a new race to suit it. Then we consider what's their natural tendency - are they likely to be more sympathetic to the Horde or the Alliance? - and then if we noticed a preponderance of really big, tough-looking races on one side or really charming, cool, cute-looking races on the other, then we try to do a little bit of a rebalance. Those profiles and those aesthetics are really important. We didn't want everyone on the Horde to look ugly, right?
also when asked about non-released allied races they said We have it all planned out. It's certainly possible come year-end that we might make some changes based on what we've learned and what we've seen, but we definitely have a plan.
tropic trail
Does anyone know if we are allowed to keep glyph of the sentinel in bfa? For druid flight form
strange falcon
it doesnt seem to be going away
ruby star
I disagree with Alliance having to be balanced so we get some beast like races
strange falcon
you would like an high elf instead of a snek boi?
ruby star
@strange falcon So they've planned the non-relased/announced allied racees? but might change based on what they have learned?
Yes
strange falcon
i'd prefer the snek boi myself
ruby star
Personally I'd love High ELves, but if you want snek boi tey could come too
strange falcon
also yes drorith that is what they said
ruby star
8.2 or 8.3 could have allied races
so High Elves 8.2 and Snakebois 8.3 or the other way round
I mean I think after the backlash from that Q&A, high elves are comign down the line đ
strange falcon
i wouldnt put my faith into Helves,at least for bfa
ruby star
But snakeboi's would be cool
if you want snakeboi's then I hope you get them! đ and yeah I mean I tend to have a lot og hope and faith which I probbaly shouldn't lol
strange falcon
also i think a lot of people would appreciate the breath of fresh air that is Sethrak on alliance
to break the mold of all "humanoid races" excluding draenei
hollow dock
Draenei are humanoid.
strange falcon
but they are goat aliens
strange falcon
worgen have a human form
ruby star
They are humanoid tbh
hollow dock
the goats are still humanoid aliens
ruby star
So we can assume they have planned an allied race for 8.2 and 8.3
strange falcon
maybe humanoid was not the best word to describe what i was trying to say
ruby star
now we just gotta wait and see
hollow dock
Like orcs are humanoid. Despite being aliens themselves. Most races in WoW are humanoid. All the player races are.
strange falcon
yea,definitely not the correct word to use
hollow dock
Maybe human-like? But even then, most horde and alliance races are human like.
ruby star
I wonder what the 8.2 and 8.3 allied races are then đ¤
true matrix
mag'har & dark iron, vulpera & sethrak? I assume kul tirans & zandalari will be before those tho
ruby star
Mag'har and Dark Iron are already confirmed
for 8.0
and Kul'tiran and Zandalar are already announced
leaving 8.2 and 8.3 for allied races they have planned that we have no idea what tehy are yet đ
ruby prawn
I hope they don't add sethrak
As an allied race
They don't fit in at all with any of the existing races
oak wraith
Or 9.0... I'd rather they go a bit more slowly than have 20+ allied races per side at some point đ
ruby star
I mean from that statement in that interview we can assume they have races plannned for 8.2 and 8.3
but what races we don't know
frigid umbra
I think allied races are only a bfa feature that will slow down or stop in next exp
hollow dock
They dont have to come in matching pairs Exo
Allied races I think are prrtty dang successful.
So they'll keep it gping
ruby star
yep#
tulip sun
Ya, it is kinda stupid to think that the pair has to match.
If the race makes sense with their story, they will be added, even if one faction gets something totally different from another
Like if one faction got vulpera, the other doesnt have to get sethrak. Sure, it would be nice, but the other faction could get a race totally uninvolved with vulpera
jovial coral
They shouldn't have a faction imbalance of options IMO
Sethrak is always being discussed same with vulpera they gotta be playable one way one day
steel venture
It's long overdue for the Alliance to get a new "monster" tbh.
steel venture
The Devoted are an honorable, respectful group of sethrak that aren't trying to conquer everything.
Sounds pretty easily Alliance to me. :T
jovial coral
New faction is possible
steel venture
And Alliance helps them out far more than Horde.
sharp bluff
Beasts for the alliance you say?
steel venture
... too late in the game to make a "neutral" faction. Had to be established back in BC or something.
jovial coral
Why would new races want to join alliance or horde with their history of war, they'd feel inclined to go to war when things go bad.
sharp bluff
Pick a side to protect you
true matrix
god I LOVE that comic
sharp bluff
Lol
jovial coral
Sethrak don't wear top hats
true matrix
awkward zombie is A+
sharp bluff
No top hat no alliance, it is in the math đ¤ˇ
jovial coral
But then again, gallywix has one
jovial coral
Well he's gonna die eventually so
tulip sun
Nah
hollow dock
I mean
Gallywix is 'neutral' technically. He gives business to where business can be attained
ruby star
Lol Loth'emar is gonna get killed by Veersa
Or us players
Or AURIC
If he comes intp play
In BFA
After a team being named after him
true matrix
keep dreaming bud
ruby star
Maybe he'll get killed by a murloc
đ¤
But he could die at the battle of Lorderon
In a cutscene
Loth'emars death would be great (remeber I have Alliance pride)
tulip sun
Eh
near cosmos
FOR THE ALLIANCE!
tulip sun
I doubt it
near cosmos
first we take his outcasts and turn them into a powerful weapon, then we murdurate him
PERFECT
jovial coral
Gallywix, final raid boss BFA
terse patrol
p sure Gallywix is dying this expac
ruby star
and Loth'emar!
lavish pawn
About time
true matrix
at least learn how to spell his name right
terse patrol
Lorâthemar is too handsome to die.
true matrix
and badass
ruby star
He's a Blood Elf đ¤˘
but Don't worry we'll Have Auric returning to put an end to Loth'thermars evil reign!
true matrix
it just gets worse... incredible
hollow dock
Vereesa needs to die too
ruby star
No! xD
ruby star
how xD
true matrix
at this point she really just exists to further sylvanas's character arc
terse patrol
I'm 90% sure that Vereesa is going to be killed by (perhaps) Naga during the Battle for Teldrassil, and her death will be blamed on Sylvanas.
terse patrol
And the pictures we see are Sylvanas standing by Vereesa's side as she dies, watching the world burn together one last time.
You forget one thing @ruby star
The Windrunners have yet to have their meeting.
Why are the Alliance leaders in Teldrassil? Sylvanas intended to take them all out at once, but it doesn't work out.
My guess is? They were expecting a peace conference. Instead, they got war.
Vereesa and Alleria were likely there to attend.
ruby star
SUrely not all the alliance leaders
That would be a stupid idea
have all your leaders in one place
terse patrol
Greymane is there in Anduins place I assume
ruby star
even it was orgianlly meant to be they might of changed it now
After the massive demand for High Elves
Killing Veersa would cause again more backlash
So if they did plan on klilling her
they might of changed it now
as stuff can change drasticly
in beta/alpha
terse patrol
You realize they could just make Auric the High Elf leader, right?
ruby star
They could do
Thats if the plan on brining him back
Ik it teases him
in Islands team name
but we don't know if it means anything yet
sharp bluff
ruby star
Fuck no
sharp bluff
Blood for the blo... Er wait wrong franchise
hollow dock
nah that's the right franchise
ruby star
Auric becoming High Elves allied race leader is possible tbh after Jainas angels being renamed to him if they rejontroduce him
If that happens CVeersa migth die but who knows
I hope she doesn 't
terse patrol
you're a bit too rabid of a high elf player
sharp bluff
Elfâs can go rabid, that is why we have Worgens after all
ruby star
I'm not trying to swing you to our cause, it's up to you if you support High Elves or not
sullen dagger
HIGH ELVES FOR THE ALLIANCE HOO RAH
hollow dock
theres no dabbing emoji
sharp bluff
MURLOCS FOR ALL!!! 
@hollow dock
hollow dock
Im poor so I cant steal other servers dabs
lavish pawn
Jeez. High elves. Play Blood elves if you want them.
terse patrol
Hereâs hoping Xalâatath has more voice lines in BFA
hollow dock
blood elves can't mingle with all my friends on the alliance.
rich apex
I would not bet on BFA voice lines if you're not technically equipping the artifact
fossil rover
how can the kul tiran be druids? they are humans
clever ember
Harvest witches. Worgen were humans at one point too and they can be Druids.
hollow dock
Being a druid and becoming one requires attenuation of nature, not being a specific race.
Certain races aren't as in tune with nature as others, hence why those in Stormwind can't be druids but those in Kul Tiras can.
It's a regional thing
mental lagoon
Does anyone know how to get to Legion Dalaran or Pandaria on beta? No Dal hearthstone, and the Pandaria portal in SW seems to be gone
restive sage
c:
terse patrol
So, they learned from that as well.
clever ember
Probably have to do the intro quests. Not sure if they are available though since beta is meant to test new stuff. Not old stuff. But I donât know for sure, since I donât have beta atm.
restive sage
why yall hiding in here
hollow dock
Because we like discussing the Beta and BFA stuff
and others dont like spoilers always
terse patrol
This is the cool kids club anyways
sharp bluff
basically black magic
terse patrol
@hollow dock make it bitch
iâll cut u
âno one, not even a king, is more important than meâ
sharp bluff
All for one, and one for himself Honk?
terse patrol
Chaduin Wrynn
oak wraith
The â for the Legion starting quest (I think it's for that) is visible on my minimap in the Stormwind harbor, but the actual NPC isn't there. It was there earlier (in Alpha), when the of whole SW was in pre-Legion mode (and you started in the new zone automatically). Don't you start Pandaria these days by talking to ... the Admiral lady in the SW throne room? No idea what the equivalent is for Horde.
(I had the same problem with getting some things working on live for a boosted 110, who did get a Dalaran HS, etc. but nothing from earlier expansions)
meager warren
high elves = nty
sanlayn = nty
undead trolls = YES
http://prntscr.com/jdqvj2
http://prntscr.com/jdqwdv
untold fractal
undead trolls â¤
untold fractal
trolls are my favorite race, undead are my second favorite. combine them for the best race ever please
hollow dock
Because one of my longest living RP characters is a high elf. I have an attachment to her and enjoy the race and the ideas that people have come up with for how High Elves would continue to progress as a race.
meager warren
and one of my longest living is a literal shadow
but we're never gonna be able to play void lords
hollow dock
Well yea. But a shadow isnt a void lord? O.o
meager warren
void lords work in the shadow
hollow dock
But that doesn't make all shadows void lords.
hollow dock
Ya know what shame on me for expecting a legitimate discussion
meager warren
define legitimate in this context
hollow dock
really. You need context when you compared wanting a high elf to be playable to a void lord being playable.
tulip torrent
these trolls can be found in zul farrak
meager warren
yes, i do, vris
you're the one who said "because i rp high elf"
why not just keep doing that /shrug
hollow dock
Because I don't do it on live and do it on a secluded private server. So my experience is pretty limited on her.
In which, I gotta wonder. Why would you not want high elves to be playable?
terse patrol
salty horde players afraid of losing numbers
even though most blood elves play alliance already
@hollow dock
sharp bluff
those are some nice trolls there, but i would want living buff trolls before dead ones in all honesty
hollow dock
Forest trolls could be a cool allied race
tho.
I dont think the Blood Elves would be happy with it. But then again, who cares about the lore. đ¤ˇ
hollow dock
The amani? Cuz I dont remember the Revantusk having the hulking trolls
hollow dock
Oh so they do. Alright then I dont see a reason for them to not get added.
that'd actually be a good pairing wouldn't it. Forest trolls and High Elves.
Both scattered remnants of their former selves within the factions gathering together and becoming a new force
terse patrol
I do think thereâs a possibility of the Horde getting the Nightborne treatment in our Suramar patch for BFA.
Would be funny.
They help some race being subjugated by Naga, just for them to go Alliance.
hollow dock
that'd be some sweet justice
terse patrol
âreeeeeeâ
hollow dock
Im still waiting for Ion to put down a horde race for being 'To similar'
terse patrol
i kinda doubt he will
I hate saying it, because its a meme
But heâs always been really Horde centric
hollow dock
I mean it's pretty clear. He doesn't even play an alliance character.
terse patrol
So, I suspect if the Alliance gets anything cool, itâd be because the writers wrote him into a corner.
Dark Trolls would be sick.
But that would require Night Elves recognizing their origins
hollow dock
they do tho. There's no denying it at this point
terse patrol
Theyâre salty about it tho
hollow dock
Wouldn't you if you found out that you came from a lesser race?
sharp bluff
I thought Nelfs hated all trolls in general though?
hollow dock
they do which is why they wouldn't want to believe they came from trolls
but ya know. Titan archives don't lie
sharp bluff
honestly no idea which skeleton would swap sides next
sharp bluff
orcs will never go alliance, Alliance would lose to much support
idk if any dwarf clans not alliance aligned so idk there
hollow dock
No idea. that's for the devs.
sharp bluff
lol
hollow dock
I would say, maybe Eredar? but at the same time
I dont think Sylv is going to trust demons
sharp bluff
đ¤ that would be cool, but idk how that would work, they would be pretty sick, and horde would get space ships
wild pewter
Predictions on Allied Races we'll have at the end of the expac?
rich apex
High elves
đ
(Not in 7.2 by any means, probably not 7.3 either. But as a pre-9.0 thing? Much more likely.)
karmic copper
7.2?
rich apex
And then the Horde purists will be back to 'qq too many elves in WoW'
karmic copper
that was legion
karmic copper
bfa is 8.
rich apex
Yes, that
dim flower
Nah, it's just some debuffs I got off the coast of Vol'dun
sullen dagger
ah lol
dim flower
But it reminded me of the noggenfogger lmao
meager warren
@hollow dock i don't care about high elves being playable.
I'd just rather them actually put some effort into them to make them not look like exact replicas of Blood Elves except for minor details
dim flower
Blue eyes are pretty much the only difference probably unless you want the old models from like vanilla
Those things were scary
meager warren
also, @hollow dock i play Alliance too
rich apex
They're not just going to be replaced because the forums cried a lot
hollow dock
So like most of the high elf movement is asking for? Things like this?
rich apex
Or rather whatever the Alliance counterpart will be for 7.2 races đ
true matrix
that looks a lot better than the other post I saw 
rich apex
Tho I can't imagine what new features they'd add besides tattoos and new hairdos
But apparently lazy Allied Races are okay in this case
dim flower
I'm okay with it as long as they're attractive
karmic copper
8.2*
rich apex
8.2
dim flower
If you want my opinion, if you want real customization, make a new WoW.
rich apex
Why do I keep doing that
heavy cairn
what 8.2 races
karmic copper
Sethrak!
dim flower
lmao Wildstar 2.0
rich apex
People keep saying sethrak but I remain skeptical
karmic copper
I want sethrak
rich apex
Yeah đ
heavy cairn
heh, I doubt those would be given to us in 8.2
dim flower
Sethrak pls
meager warren
i'm okay with it as long as they provide something different in terms of looks from blood elves, aren't ugly af, have some scars and tattoos, and more.
heavy cairn
I'm still thinking vulpera/sethrak are 9.0 pre-order material
high elves 9.0 or 9.1; either unlocked @ level 130
karmic copper
even at though at first i thought sethrak were silly for an allied race, but now ive looked at them more, i want them
hollow dock
they exist. It's just up to blizzard to do it
strange falcon
@rich apex well,sethrak is the only "suitable" counterpart to vulpera that isnt an asspull,and they are the only "nonplayable race" other than vulpera,that has the "looking at hand" animations,which is what your char does when looking at the heart of azeroth,this is a PLAYER ONLY animation
rich apex
Well, they put actual thought and new story into a new Alliance elf race
And gave us void elves
đ
meager warren
^
heavy cairn
if they were outland mag'har, I'd have to disagree, but I may see what you are saying... elaborate
rich apex
So I don't think they -have- to match up anything beyond each faction getting a new race
And it's just that the sethrak model doesn't look like it can equip armor normally
meager warren
if they were outland mag'har, they still wouldn't be counterpart to dark irons
rich apex
Or have a female model
strange falcon
there is female and male voiceover for both enemy and npc sethrak
dim flower
I wouldn't be surprised if we get Zandalari and Kul'tiran as rep grinds early on.
strange falcon
your argument is invalid
sharp bluff
Sethrak isnât as fleshed out as vulpera from what I hear
rich apex
Ehh
true matrix
I wish we had outland mag'har instead of going back to AU draenor...
rich apex
Like I would -love- if male and female sethrak are androgynous
But
I don't expect it
strange falcon
also it would seem that sethrak female dont have boobs
heavy cairn
since zandalari and kul'tirans are going to be 8.1 or something, I definitely expect rep grinds
meager warren
why, mei?
dim flower
Sorta wish Vol'dun was a patch zone so that adding Vulpera and Sethrak would have a good time.
rich apex
The question is if they did that as a specific design choice
true matrix
@meager warren WoD was a mistake
rich apex
Or they just didn't devote resources to a female model
meager warren
it was okay
hollow dock
They already said
dim flower
It could've been okay...
true matrix
I mean, the arakkoa are androgynous so I don't see why the sethrak couldn't be too
dim flower
I blame Mists.
meager warren
what sucked about it was content drought
strange falcon
snakes with boobs are an anatomical mistake
rich apex
Given 80% of beastial races don't get a female model
hollow dock
"THEY DONT HAVE TO COME IN PAIRS"
dim flower
SoO lasted too long.
meager warren
Mists was fine
hollow dock
this is referencing to the allied races being related to each other
dim flower
Mists was great but.
hollow dock
they dont have to relate at all. It could be Vulpera and Vrykul for all they care
dim flower
If SoO wasn't an issue, they wouldn't have rushed Draenor imo
heavy cairn
I don't see how any of the allied races are anything but loose "counterparts." You shouldn't expect some huge pattern.
hollow dock
SoO wasn't an issue. WoD was an issue from day 1.
dim flower
SoO lasted over a year.
rich apex
WoD was the Perfect Shitstorm
hollow dock
^
rich apex
But that's old news
strange falcon
argonians are snakes with boobs,and it's pretty known how that is a mistake both ideally and from an anatomy point of view
dim flower
Yes, but I believe that the feedback from the length of SoO would've rushed its release.
rich apex
Argonian tiddies are hilariously dumb
meager warren
don't blame Mists.
Blame the writers and marketing team and financial and whatever other teams that were responsible for making WoD less than what it could have been
dim flower
WoD has a huge cutlist
rich apex
But that's how the average nerd game designer makes fantasy women
Of course they have to have tiddies
hollow dock
It didn't. Blizz's development cycle would have started WoD at the start of Mists.
true matrix
snake tiddies will never not be hilarious to me
hollow dock
They had issues closing down WoD's development. They admitted to it during the drought
they're snitties
tybm
meager warren
Argonians are like, dragons. not snakes
true matrix
SNIDDIES
sharp bluff
Sniddies lol
meager warren
#SNIDDIES4prez2020
rich apex
And, tiddies or not, if sethrak are playable, there's going to be a male and a female model in the files
Just because that's how the races are set up
Could they add one later on? Sure
Who knows
rich apex
There's models specifically labeled female?
meager warren
people hate androgynous races tho
maybe if they made boobs optional, it would be better
true matrix
no thank u
sullen dagger
boobs on a snake?
rich apex
Like far as I've seen with random sethrek NPCs, it's the same model, some just have female voices
sullen dagger
dafuq?
hollow dock
I mean
meager warren
OPTIONAL BOOBS
hollow dock
have you seen other lizard people out there?
meager warren
have you not seen other sniddies?
meager warren
SNIDDIES
sullen dagger
sigh
meager warren
playable ducks?
sullen dagger
they lay eggs
meager warren
anthropomorphic ducks?
sullen dagger
why the hell do you need tiddies there
sullen dagger
'cause they aint mammals
meager warren
so?
meager warren
chairs?
clever ember
Naga have boobs, they were once night elves. But not anymore. No reason for them to have them now but they do.
sullen dagger
and the floor, instead "the floor is lava" i want "the floor is tiddies"
rich apex
Remember not only to argonians still have tiddies
But they don't even reproduce sexually
sullen dagger
^
sharp bluff
Argonians đ
meager warren
^
hollow dock
dey got da naga tho
meager warren
^
strange falcon
the naga were transformed from nightelves
so from a lazy writing standpoint
it makes sense
for them to still have sniddies
meager warren
teedies?
hollow dock
TRIDDIES
meager warren
treedies!
true matrix
triddies...,
dim flower
What build are you guys running for Arms Warriors when leveling?
hollow dock
I don't remember the build I ran when I was leveling. Think I just went for fun.
wild pewter
I want snek people too tbh
near cosmos
Tribbles?
split valley
danger noodles ftw
sharp bluff
Tree tity?
sharp bluff
how much? lol
true matrix
it certainly is an arrangement of talents
rich garnet
It's very hard to know if it's a viable choice of talents, due to the fact that the beta is in a constant state of change. What could be decent today, may not work, or may not be a thing tomorrow.
slate ingot
so um whos this
hollow dock
Just play whats fun
I know that's a hard concept but just keep messing around with junk
karmic copper
Bobby Howlis? Jon or Jeff howlis or whatever he was calleds uncle
jade basalt
Official website updated with dark irons and maghar https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/battle-for-azeroth/features/allied-races
hollow dock
Hey quiet, can I PM you something regarding WoWpedia?
sharp bluff
nice they finally updated the site
jade basalt
Sure
sharp bluff
yep
meager warren
pey
sharp bluff
i wonder if it is tied to skin or different sets
meager warren
:thonk:
rich apex
I mean
It -looks- like it's tied to skin
Since I can't see them giving -only- Mag'har the extra colors
But you can change your skin at the barber shop at any give moment come BFA
So question of how it's determined of which one you get
sharp bluff
well druids work the same way with tied to skin color on tauren
I know a bit different
but could be possible
rich apex
I mean that presumably you only get one color either way
And at least in the Wowhead datamine, it looks like each tint is a different item
So it presumably won't be changing once you acquire it
Even if you change the skin
sharp bluff
that would be cool if get multiple tints
rich apex
It would
hollow dock
It could be like the Army of the Light Wepaons
rich apex
But I'd be kind of salty if only Mag'har got them
hollow dock
where it just comes in different tints
sharp bluff
would make me more excited to level an allied race if got multiple colors at end
hollow dock
since the other allied races do have extra tints
rich apex
But so far that's only in the datamines
And not acquirable
And only for some of the races
uncut vault
they could always do a heritage x2, once you hit 120 you get all the variants and weapons and stuff
hollow dock
^
rich apex
There is also that
Which adds another question
If you uh
-really- like orcs, I guess
uncut vault
oh I didnt mean level again
I meant once you level to 110 on a character, if you get that character to 120 you get the rest
rich apex
Ooh
That would be nice too
But wasn't Lightforged the only other one with extra tints datamined?
hollow dock
I thought void elves had extra tints too? and nightborne?
uncut vault
void elves and highmountain are the only two without no extra tints
rich apex
Oh, okay then
uncut vault
but void elf has weapons
dim flower
Heroic Leap can trigger Sudden Death?
Was it always like that?
Like even when it doesn't damage somebody
I'm just leaping around Zuldazar and getting Sudden Death
olive mirage
so uh yeah, this flag doesnt have a cooldown 
http://puu.sh/Ag5LR/12d917f3c1.jpg
meager warren
Is "Sudden Death" what it sounds like?
hollow dock
no it's not
meager warren
ok
hollow dock
Sudden death iirc resets the CD of Colossal smash
olive mirage
what?? brez has a cast time now
hollow dock
oh that'll be annoying if its on DKs
meager warren
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/8gzfmt/all_this_talk_of_wow_being_black_and_white_this/
the second hand nostalgia, tho
hollow dock
Oh OK. that's weird.
Maybe theyre trying to make it flow slower? GCD is like what. a few point seconds below that casttime?
uncut vault
@olive mirage Where do you get the banner?
olive mirage
a quest in tiragarde sound
dim flower
Did rend damage get nerrfed?
rich apex
Comparing things between beta and live is a slippery slope
Between balancing still being done
And the stat squish
And the various overhauls
Technically -everything- damage has been nerfed, since you're not hitting for 1 million anymore đ
rich apex
All I'm going to miss is Judgement hitting like a truck
hollow dock
stat squishes in general are less entertaining :L
rich apex
I could still have one shotted normal mobs regardless of the stat squish, if not for the mastery change đ
wild pewter
Would anyone else be interested in new class titles to do with the faction war and quests? For example, I'd love for my Hunter to be a "Ranger-General" in the Alliance
hollow dock
I wouldn't mind racial PVP titles
Keep the current ones for humans, but give all the other alliance members different titles that match
it's weird to see a Grand Marshal of the Alliance on a night elf
uncut vault
Ranger General wouldnt happen because that's halduron's title, but I can see Ranger Lord/Ranger Lady
uncut vault
But it is the title for an all out faction leader, which, they could go for but I dont think everyone wants to be a leader of an elven group
hollow dock
it'd only apply to blood elves tho
Like. Orcs keep their warlord stuff and then Tauren get different titles. Racial flare ya know?
uncut vault
That would be nice. Though a warlock ranger general would be... interesting
dim flower
When are island expeditions unlocked?
tranquil steeple
didn't you know, warlocks are secretly masters with bows, crossbows and guns
dim flower
Isn't Alleria kinda that?
uncut vault
well, the proper lore term is spellbow, but those are a lot more on the hunter side than the mage, and even then MM hunters have a bit of spellbow fantasy with arcane shot
hollow dock
I thought they were arcane rangers
uncut vault
spellbows? they are, hence more on the hunter side
hollow dock
where'd the terminology for spellbows come in? O.o that's a new one for me
sharp bluff
Huh nice
meager warren
/shrug
hollow dock
because its beta?
hollow dock
Dunno
dim flower
And then that cube that says "Delete Me"
tropic trail
in the next xpac, if we transmog skull of man'ari to our offhand, can we still see the floating skull?
dim flower
I'd guess so yeah
meager warren
- Where are you in the game?
- You're in beta. Report the damn bug
meager warren
It's a bug. Report
meager warren
It is though.
meager warren
Yes.
tropic trail
that's good
dim flower
đ¤
hollow dock
Its beta
meager warren
They won't if you dont report it kek
hollow dock
It's thinking like that that lets bugs sit in games.
meager warren
It IS abug
dim flower
But it ISNT
meager warren
Mate
dim flower
How is it a bug?
meager warren
Report the damn thing and quit pestering us
dim flower
Report something that isn't a bug?
uncut vault
probably just a WIP texture to make the cave look bigger than it actually is
meager warren
Yes
meager warren
Smh
dim flower
I'm just wondering why they'd set it up if it's not complete đ¤
dim flower
Okay, but wouldn't you just block it off?
With like a temporary barrier or something
Idk
hollow dock
not always.
dim flower
lmao
How would they not know they have a WIP texture
If it's a WIP
Looks complete on this side
It actually looks really pretty from that side :o
meager warren
Sometimes the stuff in Blizz-only versions of the game get through into live/ beta.
You can't expect them to fix it if you don't report it.
meager warren
Lol k
meager warren
No
If i did, i'd report that thing that you're so adamant doesn't need to be reported
meager warren
Sometimes people forget. It being "wip" is redundant since everything in beta is wip
But people still report bugs đ¤
dim flower
This doesn't feel like a bug though
Like I'd report floating minerals
Or broken bosses
But not a texture that's not complete yet
meager warren
Why not?
meager warren
It may not be a bug but it needs to be fixed before they accidentally bring it to live
dim flower
It's like me reporting a class I don't like because it's doing too much damage.
Even though that player's just good.
olive mirage
i dont get people selling items on the AH on beta for 100k+
olive mirage
all that gold will be useless, i just want to test stuff
olive mirage
yeah, 5k at a time
olive mirage
and i want to test an enchant that somebody is selling for 130k...
meager warren
I've sent 10k to my alts
wild pewter
That's because it's beta.
hollow dock
who's kate?
wild pewter
sudden pollen
Jaina goes from being Lady of Theramore, to Leader of the Kirin Tor, to Grand Admiral of Kul Tiras.
Talk about moving up in the world.
uncut vault
and to think like 12 years ago she was just an apprentice
uncut vault
as of bfa, yeah. crazy all the threats we face
ruby star
We need mind flayers
tropic trail
like DnD mindflayers?
ruby star
Yea
tropic trail
isn't that kinda what the faceless ones are?
ruby star
That is awesome
rich apex
Allied Race Faceless Ones confirmed
olive mirage
so i hope pandas not having tails on beta is a bug
tropic trail
like missing the nub, or the red panda skin tail?
olive mirage
red panda tail is just gone
rich apex
Pretty sure it's a bug
olive mirage
tropic trail
I'd assume it's a bug
ruby star
Mind Flayers are cool
tropic trail
rayman orc
eternal jay
XD
meager warren
Mind Flayers are just Faceless Ones
eternal jay
Anyone know if Allied Races will have DK choices?
tropic trail
I believe it's been stated they wont
meager warren
would be cool if you could customize whether you have all limbs
peg-legs/ metal arms when
eternal jay
Shame.
tropic trail
which kinda sucks for DKs, not being able to use the new allied races
eternal jay
Agreed.
tropic trail
but a void elf DK would just make the world explode from sheer edgyness
eternal jay
I would think Dark Iron and Zandy Trolls should be able to.
They were around and died during
tropic trail
yeah, unfortunately I doubt we'll see new races get DKs unless blizz redoes the starting zone to be after arthas bit it
heavy cairn
I can see DK zone being redone
meager warren
blizz needs to re-do the DH starter zone and DK starter zone.
imo, it was a really stupid decision on their part to make the DH starter zone take place during the events of TBC
eternal jay
Why do you think that MM?
heavy cairn
most starting zones got redone (in cata, I think), don't see why not DK. make it happen in the present, and all good.
DH, I don't really care unless they actually decide to add more races to it (I doubt this much more than I doubt more DK races). far future thing if ever.
tropic trail
I'd miss the old DK zone tho
heavy cairn
same, but its story can be told in another way
it already is mostly retold in Northrend (through the scarlet onslaught-related quests)
tropic trail
well, if the vamp elves rumor is true, we might see at least one race be added to the DK roster. (and probably an alliance equivalent)
eternal jay
What Vamp Elves?
mint arch
wonder what other ex-lich king allies sylvanas can recruit, not evil btw~
eternal jay
Source?
mint arch
there's a line in datamined text
can't find the line
but mentions sylvanas wants to talk with the San'layn
Rokhan: Sylvanas wants ta give 'em a chance. Dey got no home left. If dey can work with us, den dey got a home with da Horde. If not, dey be gone.
u know how it is
Undead vampiric blood elves that once served the Scourge would now serve Sylvanas
totally not the lich queen~
eternal jay
-.- Horde get vamps
and alliance cant have highelves
If you want a vampiric dark and broody elf
the alliance is waiting for you.
olive mirage
why is my mistweaver still making the artifact mists? http://puu.sh/Age5J/1c8cf5bb6f.jpg
i dont have anything to use them
sharp bluff
you spelled Banshee wrong btw Void
common mistake these days
your spelling is horrendous
eternal jay
Talent choices?
rich apex
beta
eternal jay
I may go MW Monk in BFA
Was thinking Mage or Rogue as Primary and Priest as Secondary
but Monk May be Primary in General
DPS/Heals.
I dont tank that often so, maybe Ill just do Pally Tank.
Anyone else changign mains?
changing *
sudden oak
maybe I will drop a bit my priest and go lock
since demo lock looks awesome in BfA
I was thinking of going lock for dps and monk to heal
since I dont really like melee dps
sharp bluff
???
tropic trail
yeah guys, stop spoiling beta secrets
sharp bluff
in the beta spoiler channel?
mint arch
loool
mint arch
stop spoiling u monsters ;-;
eternal jay
Spoiling the spoils.
spiral silo
Is Storm's End incompletable?
sudden oak
you are all monster for playing something blizzard gave you 