#beta-ptr-spoilers | Wowhead: World of Warcraft (WoW) | Page 268

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 1:02 PM

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they got new portraits,and new quests in zuldazar regarding sethrak,and the main sethrak hub flight master has been moved downstairs

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 1:03 PM

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I main a panda ;P

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They just need to make some things a little different

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Have their tail coil around the said mounts?

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Don't know how hard that'd be

steel venture Apr 28, 2018, 1:03 PM

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📎 l0l0TS0.jpg

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 1:03 PM

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If we do get naga

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I will be royally pissed if they can transform to have two legs

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What fun is that?

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They are just night elves then

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 1:05 PM

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that's why you make sethrak playable

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they're scaly snakes,with 2 legs

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problem solved

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 1:05 PM

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I wouldn't mind that

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But...

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What faction? How would this work o.O

near cosmos Apr 28, 2018, 1:05 PM

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dont step on snek

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 1:05 PM

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Obviously Alliance if Vulpera go Horde

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But...

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Eh

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 1:06 PM

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also

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since the sethrak are getting killed by forsaken in nazmir,and zandalar by horde,and enslave vulpera

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the "good snakes " would rather go alliance

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also in the alliance part of voldun(war campaigns foothold) the alliance interact with only snakes

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no vulpera at all

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 1:08 PM

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I can see that being problematic territory-wise xD

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 1:08 PM

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not even 1

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 1:08 PM

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Vulpera and Zandalari join horde

steel venture Apr 28, 2018, 1:08 PM

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Devoted are good Alliance canidates, yes.

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 1:08 PM

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Then these sneks join Alliance

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PURGE THEM FROM ZANDALAR

steel venture Apr 28, 2018, 1:08 PM

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They're also masters of Vol'dun.

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So it'd be difficult to boot em out.

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 1:08 PM

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well the faithless sethrak,have a big empire themselves

steel venture Apr 28, 2018, 1:08 PM

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Especially when their loa is revived.

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 1:08 PM

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and are allied with the sand trolla

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 1:09 PM

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Devotes are not large themselves

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I love the sand troll leader model

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Is it bad I would play one?

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I hope Zandalari joining horde leads into other troll tribes

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 1:09 PM

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jakra'zet

steel venture Apr 28, 2018, 1:09 PM

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Once Sethraliss is reborn she's a major boon to the Devoted.

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Which is why the Faithless don't want her back

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 1:10 PM

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@steel venture technically sethraliss is already reborn when you complete the temple of sethraliss dungeon at the end of voldun

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and you kill mythrax the unraveler as the first boss in uldir

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 1:12 PM

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Dafire, you think it is possible for other troll tribes to follow Zandalar's lead?

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Obviously not the major ones

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Well, it is unlikely

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But Revantusk are already in the Horde

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what of some of the smaller frost troll tribes

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or a sand troll tribe

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etc

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 1:14 PM

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zandalari trolls

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could get different skin options

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like the mag'har

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to indicate different tribes

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but idk

sudden oak Apr 28, 2018, 1:15 PM

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but arent zandalari trolls a "tribe" themselves?

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 1:15 PM

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No, Zandalari are a distinct type xD

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Forest trolls are more muscular and have a hunch

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Frost Trolls....I forget

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Sand Trolls seem skinnier

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It wouldn't work

sudden oak Apr 28, 2018, 1:16 PM

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if they gave skin options for other trolls tribes then the race wouldnt be called zandalari trolls

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 1:16 PM

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and it wouldn't work as the other troll tribes are drastically different in appearance

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 1:18 PM

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@tulip sun @steel venture https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/437279916543836162/439519146745528331/1342.PNG https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/437279916543836162/439519197400268840/Cattura.PNG

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old vs new

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portraits

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for sneks

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 1:19 PM

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Is there a major difference? o.O

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I do not know the like...

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Importance I guess

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 1:21 PM

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technically it is a major change,as they used the old portrait for the entirety of alpha

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getting the new one just before beta

near cosmos Apr 28, 2018, 1:39 PM

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its gonna be so weird to do FA damage compared to live

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lv113 mobs have less HP than you do at lv1 with looms pre-7.3.5

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😛

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 1:40 PM

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Grrrr

near cosmos Apr 28, 2018, 1:41 PM

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Rawr~

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 1:41 PM

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I wonder who will form up the new zanchuli council

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After we murder 90% of them

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There are only 2 in-game that are alive after the main story

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2 others are in the files but not added...

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 1:58 PM

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you mean mobs having 13k

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was less than you at lvl 1 with looms?

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i forgot about that

near cosmos Apr 28, 2018, 3:51 PM

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Something like that, hyperbole anyway but it’s gonna be rip in bfa anyway 😛

tropic trail Apr 28, 2018, 4:56 PM

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is it me or is beta offline?

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 5:01 PM

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jus you

tropic trail Apr 28, 2018, 5:01 PM

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hm darn

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 5:30 PM

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"4/27 - In the next major build, three different Islands will be available per week on a rotation, drawing from the following pool:

Un'gol Ruins
Molten Cay
Verdant Wilds
Dread Chain
Whispering Reef
Skittering Hollow
Rotting Mire"

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this means we will likely see a new build on monday or tuesday

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 5:50 PM

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dank

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 8:34 PM

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i somehow managed to glitch under the Uldir pyramid in nazmir

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and look who i found under it

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/437279916543836162/439886533345148928/WoWScrnShot_042818_222945.jpg

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 8:38 PM

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yeah hes party of the finale in nazmir

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rises up from the temple

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 8:39 PM

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actually,he's always on top of the temple

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uninterruptedly

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for all of nazmir

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THEN at the end,he breaks through the "lid" of the pyramid

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and jumps down

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 8:40 PM

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yeah

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thats not whats supposed to happen

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it isnt finished yet

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 8:41 PM

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wow

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he is massive

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 8:43 PM

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to give you some perspective,his belt buckle is bigger than a male tauren @ruby star

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 8:44 PM

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Oh wow

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:02 PM

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"nothing is ever easy,You ask for a fleet,you get a city siege." -Nathanos 2k18

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:03 PM

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seems legit

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 10:15 PM

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@ruby star I assume y ou made that petition? Someone in my guild linked it, I signed

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:16 PM

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what petition?

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:18 PM

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What petition

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:19 PM

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@uncut vault i didn't make it, but that's great you signed it ❤

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:19 PM

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the petition to make high elves playable is my assumption

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seriously now

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:19 PM

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it's an open letter/petition to Ion &Blizzard

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about High Elves you are correct

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:20 PM

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why do you want playable high elves?
What is even the point

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just play belfs

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:21 PM

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or void elves

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:21 PM

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petitions in wow are pointless

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:21 PM

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if you want to be alliance

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:21 PM

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@meager warren Do I really have to explain again 😛

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:21 PM

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they banned them for a reason

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:21 PM

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yes u do

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:21 PM

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they dont care about what you think you want

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:21 PM

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^

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:21 PM

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This is just sad

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:21 PM

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^^^

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:21 PM

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^

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:21 PM

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blizzard said no several times

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:21 PM

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Thank you for you input 😄 I don't give one fuck

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:21 PM

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yeah

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blizzard doesnt either

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:22 PM

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It doesn't affect you so

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:22 PM

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wow great response to constructive criticism innit

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:22 PM

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i mean

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:22 PM

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it does actually

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:22 PM

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i play wow

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:22 PM

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we play wow too

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:22 PM

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it literally would affect me

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:22 PM

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Well you said it's pointless so you don't need to worry

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:22 PM

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And it takes away from another unique race for the alliance

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:22 PM

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i think blizzard should actively show high elves converting to void elves en masse

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:22 PM

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Allied races are meant to be unique

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:22 PM

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yeah

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:22 PM

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-makes a petitioj for no helves-

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:22 PM

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high elves arent unique

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:22 PM

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i mean

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arn't

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sorry

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:22 PM

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high elves are fucking blood elves physically

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:23 PM

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allied race are not meant to be unique

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:23 PM

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They are unique

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:23 PM

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they dont even have different skin colors

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:23 PM

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ask sas if you can link that, khamnin

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:23 PM

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But similar

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:23 PM

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they are not

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:23 PM

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yes they are

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:23 PM

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they are not unique races built up from the ground

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:23 PM

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they're not meant to be unique.
so again, what's the point

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:23 PM

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I mean. They may be similar, but they are unique

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:23 PM

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They are meant to be similar but different. high elves are not different

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:23 PM

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KizunaSmug

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:23 PM

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they are literally blood elves on the alliance

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:24 PM

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There are not grimtotem tauren on alliance for reason

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:24 PM

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^

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:24 PM

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I mean you can't stop us fighting for something we love

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:24 PM

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no

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:24 PM

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alliance yaungol when tho

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:24 PM

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no but bliz can

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by banning you khadgarface

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:24 PM

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tehy can but they won;t

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:24 PM

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but i can ask you to stop bringing it up in the beta spoilers chat every single day

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its getting obnoxius

scarlet frost Apr 28, 2018, 10:24 PM

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Sethrak when tho

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:24 PM

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you are preachiong to a brick wall

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:24 PM

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they can;t ban us for making a change.org

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:24 PM

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it doesnt add to the conversation in any way

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:24 PM

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sethrak and yaungol for alliance

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:24 PM

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it's not been linked to the forums

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so

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:25 PM

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making a change.org petition for bliz is gonna do fuck all

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:25 PM

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im not talking about the forums drorith

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:25 PM

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it breaks noCoS

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:25 PM

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im talking about this discord

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its ridiculous

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:25 PM

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theres nothing wrong with the discord

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:25 PM

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youve brought up the high elf discussion like 7 times

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:25 PM

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it;s acommunity

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:25 PM

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Making a petition to add something to wow is the most idiotic thing i ever saw, just because the devs said no

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:25 PM

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its fucking annoying

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:25 PM

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if you Helf supporters keep whining,it's only going to end one of two ways,either they actually say "fuck it" and give you high elves in a couple years,which is unlikely,or they get so fed up of your whining,that they pull some plot reason,to kill every single high elf in existence,including vereesa so you can finally shut up

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:25 PM

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it adds nothing to the discussion

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:25 PM

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<@&299347348847329281>

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:25 PM

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wait the WoWhead discord or high elf?

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:25 PM

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because you dont have any new points to make

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and no ones mind is being changed

true matrix Apr 28, 2018, 10:25 PM

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you bring it up on an almost daily basis and you don't care what other people have to say unless they agree with you! there's no point in bringing it up if you don't actually want to listen to other people!

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:25 PM

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Getting a mod on me? you are the ones attacking me

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jeez

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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so you are just yelling your opinion into a void

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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can we please discuss the merits of yaungol and sethrak in the alliance instead of perpetuating this high elf talk.

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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we arent attacking

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im asking you to stop bringing up the same discussion over and over

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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you clearly are

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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i'm calling the mods because we're not talking in #no-wow-discussion

jovial coral Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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Oh gee

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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because it adds nothing

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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Honker, that would be neat

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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you never asked me too

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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i just did

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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honk tagged me here

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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right up there

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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so I replied

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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when i started this

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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wat

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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wait

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not honk

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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i havent been online in hours

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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the otehr guy

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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"but i can ask you to stop bringing it up in the beta spoilers chat every single day
its getting obnoxius"

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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everyone, let's move to #no-wow-discussion

west relic Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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Okay, okay.

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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thulm please help

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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@uncut vault tagged me here

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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please

west relic Apr 28, 2018, 10:26 PM

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Take this to DM’s

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:27 PM

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we need to discuss the much needed sethrak and yaungol for the alliance woke

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why should the horde get all the cows

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:27 PM

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Idk about yaungol

scarlet frost Apr 28, 2018, 10:27 PM

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#teamplsmakesethrakplayable

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:27 PM

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i dont think theyll ever happen

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:27 PM

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Hord eshould have a unified tauren emlire

west relic Apr 28, 2018, 10:27 PM

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Because that’s how it works @terse patrol

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:27 PM

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they probably wont

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:27 PM

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but taunka will probably happen eventually

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:28 PM

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But a man can dream

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:28 PM

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like seriously,you're taking away a "unique and interesting" allied race spot for something like sethrak

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just so that you can have

west relic Apr 28, 2018, 10:28 PM

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But seriously, if you have issues with each other, take it to DM’s.

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:28 PM

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a copypasta of both belfs and void elves

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with different eyes

west relic Apr 28, 2018, 10:28 PM

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Try to be civil to eachother here.

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:28 PM

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do you even hear yourself

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:28 PM

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Thulm, clearly the high elf discussion is never going away

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:28 PM

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ban?

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:28 PM

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can we just have a separate channel for it?

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:28 PM

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Wait I don't deserve a ban

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:28 PM

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sethrak would be sicc tho

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:28 PM

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god no

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:28 PM

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I agree with dafire

scarlet frost Apr 28, 2018, 10:28 PM

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I think Sethrak would be neat and id play the heck out of them

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:28 PM

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its not ban worthy in any way

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:29 PM

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it should be #stupidity or #cancer

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:29 PM

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or #highelves

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:29 PM

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i like #cancer more

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:29 PM

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#alliedracediscussion

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:29 PM

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I’d play a female sethrak rogue maybe

scarlet frost Apr 28, 2018, 10:29 PM

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And probably transmog to no helmet like with the other beast races

ruby star Apr 28, 2018, 10:29 PM

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I agree a sepereate channel area might be good peach a

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:29 PM

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an allied race channel would actually be really great tbh

scarlet frost Apr 28, 2018, 10:29 PM

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A rouge sethrak seems fitting

west relic Apr 28, 2018, 10:29 PM

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Alright, if we can’t act like adults then I think mutes are incoming.

scarlet frost Apr 28, 2018, 10:29 PM

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Agreed

true matrix Apr 28, 2018, 10:29 PM

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it's annoying to have the same argument crop up here started by the same person every day so a quarantine would be nice

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:29 PM

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Sethrak rogues make their own poison woke

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:29 PM

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Thulm, whats your opinion on an allied race discussion channel?

west relic Apr 28, 2018, 10:30 PM

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I think this channel suits that topic just fine.

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:30 PM

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^^

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:30 PM

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Sethrak rogues spit on you instead of coating their blades in poison

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:30 PM

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this is for bfa_beta tho

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:30 PM

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Dang spitting cobras

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:30 PM

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what about after beta though? wont it just spill over into ptr chat, even if there is nothing on ptr related to allied races?

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:30 PM

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sethrak do need a poison attack racial tbh

west relic Apr 28, 2018, 10:30 PM

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I get that it’s for BFA Beta, but it still applies.

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:30 PM

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A damage over time

west relic Apr 28, 2018, 10:31 PM

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Having an entire channel dedicated to such a small aspect of discussion isn’t really warranted.

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:31 PM

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@terse patrol they do that already as NPCS in the beta

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:31 PM

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ok

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:31 PM

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can we have a #stupidity channel tho

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:31 PM

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shakes head in disappointment

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:31 PM

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wat

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 10:32 PM

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I'd assume this channel doubles as a spoiler/future content channel

west relic Apr 28, 2018, 10:33 PM

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It does.

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@meager warren cut it out

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:33 PM

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ok

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:33 PM

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What other racials would Sethrak get

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:34 PM

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probably a teleport racial related to those lightning stone things

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:34 PM

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it's implied they use those as means of travel

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:34 PM

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they can make those lightning rods that allow them to move quickly between two locations

scarlet frost Apr 28, 2018, 10:34 PM

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Shed skin? Able to remove poisons/debuffs

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:34 PM

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Some sort of mobility thing, ye.

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:34 PM

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poisons/debuffs is already DID

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that would be lame

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:34 PM

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Yeah

scarlet frost Apr 28, 2018, 10:35 PM

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Or at least makes them less effective.

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:35 PM

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Immunity to poison would be maybe a bit OP

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:35 PM

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I think @strange falcon wants to explain thisbreally cool mission involving Nathanos, ya? :)

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:35 PM

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no

scarlet frost Apr 28, 2018, 10:35 PM

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I totally forgot DID had that

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:35 PM

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1% extra stat thing?

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:35 PM

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Come on

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:35 PM

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thats pretty common for a lot of the allied races

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:35 PM

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Is the mission even as neat as your trying to say?

meager warren Apr 28, 2018, 10:36 PM

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yes

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:36 PM

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well you ride a giant armored dinosaur along with talanji and 3 other ppl,

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destroying tons of enemies

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so yea

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 10:36 PM

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would probably get something along the lines of damage over time effects lasting x% less

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:36 PM

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1% to critical attacks maybe kdk

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Idk

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:36 PM

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imo vulpera would get that

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:36 PM

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Is it during the final scenario?

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:36 PM

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since they're small

scarlet frost Apr 28, 2018, 10:37 PM

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I hope Nightborne models get edited a little bit. The female stance id awkward and they look fairly different than the nightborne npcs :u

west relic Apr 28, 2018, 10:37 PM

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Last I checked, Vulpera isn’t a confirmed race yet.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:37 PM

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@west relic silence

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:38 PM

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just because they arent a confirmed race,doesnt mean we can specualate about them

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since they have more work put into them

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than 60% of the current

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playable

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r aces

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:38 PM

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We will lynch Ion if Sethrak and Vulpera aren’t. DoggoRee

scarlet frost Apr 28, 2018, 10:38 PM

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Oh I dont know if this is a dumb question or not but are worgen/goblins receiving an update that we know of?

west relic Apr 28, 2018, 10:38 PM

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MIB

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:38 PM

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they said they are working on it

true matrix Apr 28, 2018, 10:38 PM

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yes they're just taking their sweetass time with it

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:38 PM

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^

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The females need the most work.

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And I hope they make goblin girls look less like crack addicts.

true matrix Apr 28, 2018, 10:39 PM

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dude don't bring those up here

scarlet frost Apr 28, 2018, 10:39 PM

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Okay! Wasnt sure, id be more likely to put more time into my female worgen if she didnt look so goofy

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:39 PM

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So are rheir old stub tails ingame at all?

west relic Apr 28, 2018, 10:39 PM

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@true matrix hence why I deleted the comment

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:40 PM

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it would be sad if we dont get worgen/goblin reworks before a third allied race pair

scarlet frost Apr 28, 2018, 10:40 PM

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Id have to agree with you on that.

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 10:40 PM

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considering vulpera and sethrak use a heavily modified goblin/worgen skeleton

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:40 PM

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It is an expansion revolving around war

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:40 PM

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they use a modified skeleton

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:40 PM

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Id like to get as many races as we can lol

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:40 PM

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not model

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very different

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the skeleton for sethrakk isnt worgen. its a mish-mash of a few different ones

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:41 PM

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awooanim

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:41 PM

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their new system allows combining animation sets on a skeleton to make new animation types, sort of

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its very strange

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its why the zandalari have a mix of night elf and troll animations

west relic Apr 28, 2018, 10:42 PM

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I’m going to get back to this birthday party now.

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:42 PM

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along with some unique ones

west relic Apr 28, 2018, 10:42 PM

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Ping me if you need me.

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:42 PM

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bai

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o/

tranquil steeple Apr 28, 2018, 10:42 PM

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Have fun, Thulm

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:43 PM

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Quick lets throw a party before he comes back

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 10:43 PM

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sethrak skeleton is a worgen female skeleton. It just has the same tech as all other races where they can use the other race anims

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has a base worgen skeleton but uses various pandaren and draenei things

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:44 PM

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PAnda!! Woot woot

jovial coral Apr 28, 2018, 10:44 PM

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So I heard once upon a time there was a massive world event called The gates of Ahn'Qiraj. It only happened once. Do you think something like that will happen in Sithilus again? Saurfang said, "nothing good has ever came out of sithilus". Am I reading too much into it?

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 10:44 PM

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I think it was more a reference to him being a part of it

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and the zone sucking

west relic Apr 28, 2018, 10:45 PM

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@tulip sun still watching 👹

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 10:48 PM

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tbh tho, would be cool having a loa worshipping race on the alliance side with the sethrak

jovial coral Apr 28, 2018, 10:49 PM

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Agreed

jade basalt Apr 28, 2018, 10:50 PM

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cough Night elves

jovial coral Apr 28, 2018, 10:52 PM

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Perhaps the loa can do what the pandarens failed to do which is put an end to the faction war people have grown tired of.

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:53 PM

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I feel like some would participate

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Such as Rezan destroying the alliance fleet

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Ir was that changed

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Or*

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 10:54 PM

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we dont have the cinematic yet, so we dont know for sure

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:54 PM

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We have text

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:58 PM

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Yes

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He still does that

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He is the loa of kings

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:58 PM

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So ya

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:58 PM

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He sides with the zandalari

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:58 PM

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Loa fights against the alliance

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I love thay

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Tjay

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That

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Too bad hes dead o.O

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I wonder if others would

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:58 PM

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He might come back

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Other wild gods can

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Once we destroy the twisted form in the dungeon ofc

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:59 PM

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I can see ones such as Gonk aiding the zandalari in battle

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Maybe

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 10:59 PM

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Gonk and the pterradax one do

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It happens in two different scenarios

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 10:59 PM

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pa'ku and gonk are both heavily sided with the zandalari

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 10:59 PM

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I mean against the alliance

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 11:00 PM

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They side with the zandalari

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Zandalari side with the horde

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 11:00 PM

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theyll probably do that too, engrained in their culture, and they all follow the king of the zandalari

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 11:00 PM

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All loa that we meet and live fight to defend Zuldazar in the last scenario

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 11:00 PM

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In the case of rezan, that was talanji using her power

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 11:00 PM

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if sethrak go alliance,the only loa that could be pro-alliance would be sethraliss

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 11:00 PM

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Sethraliss isn’t confirmed as a loa is she?

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 11:00 PM

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I can imagine the horror on the alliances faces

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And ya she is i think

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 11:00 PM

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plus rezan is confirmed to not be dead A) because wild god, can come back and B) Talanji and some prelates can still use his power after his death

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she is a loa

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 11:01 PM

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Also, seems more likely that sethraliss would be neutral

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Considering canonically horde free her in the dungeon

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 11:01 PM

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her only goal is protecting her children

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also thats not confirmed as canonical, considering both sides have story leading up to all ten dungeons

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 11:02 PM

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Yeah

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But horde dungeons are leveling dungeons

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So wouldn’t that be the canon ending?

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Horde go there first

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Pretty much right after the alliance has set up a base camp in the zone

tulip sun Apr 28, 2018, 11:02 PM

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True

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 11:02 PM

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But before you go back for more campaign at max level

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 11:03 PM

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they intentionally gave both factions set up, either through leveling or the war campaign, for the opposite factions leveling dungeons

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 11:03 PM

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Yeah

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But there’s a time line

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 11:03 PM

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and considering neither the war campaign or the zones have a canon order

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 11:03 PM

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Alliance go before horde

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There is though

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Alliance recover the first crystal in voldun

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Horde recovers the third one

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That’s why when we show up there are two

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But when you play alliance there is only one

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 11:04 PM

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huh, did not realize that

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 11:04 PM

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Yeah there is a canon order for the zones

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 11:04 PM

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but that lends even less to the "horde frees sethraliss" because both factions are there

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zandalari absolutely doesnt have a canon order

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 11:05 PM

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No, because alliance get access to the dungeon after the horde free sethraliss

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We arrive after they form a basecamp

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But they haven’t done other stuff

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That’s why we go get the final crystal

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 11:05 PM

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sethraliss is freed in the dungeon my dude, and the alliance get there before any dungeon stuff happens

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 11:05 PM

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And why when we are at the sethrakk base, the alliance isn’t there

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 11:06 PM

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you cant enter the dungeon without the final crystal my dude

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 11:06 PM

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vorrik specifically asks for the aid of the alliance in finding out whats up with her in the temple

strange falcon Apr 28, 2018, 11:06 PM

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and the horde recovers final crystal

dense plover Apr 28, 2018, 11:06 PM

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Dungeon unlocks for horse while leveling though

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And considering the crystals are in canon order

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And horde will have a zone ending quest to go there

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While alliance won’t have a zone wrap up quest to go there

uncut vault Apr 28, 2018, 11:07 PM

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🤷 if you insist, but theyre very intentionally left open, both factions can do them and have specific set up story for a reason

terse patrol Apr 28, 2018, 11:11 PM

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Sethraliss is a loa. @dense plover

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Snake loa.

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owoTohru

dense plover Apr 29, 2018, 12:12 AM

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Yeah

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I was told

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It’s the lady sethrakk at the end of the dungeon

terse patrol Apr 29, 2018, 12:57 AM

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penguin1 penguin2 penguin3 penguin4

terse patrol Apr 29, 2018, 3:34 AM

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It is interesting how Saurfang is straight up leaving the Horde entirely.

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Wonder what he'll do? Maybe make some faction to fight the Old Gods?

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I mean

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He did lead the joint effort to take down C'thun.

jovial coral Apr 29, 2018, 3:35 AM

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I like that kinda theory

terse patrol Apr 29, 2018, 3:35 AM

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"This faction war is dumb. I'm going to fight and die against enemies worth fighting."

jovial coral Apr 29, 2018, 3:37 AM

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Who would join his faction?

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... you know either race wise or character name wise...

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:42 AM

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Magni, Khadgar, and Saurfang will save the world

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While we're busy dicking each other over

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The big plot twist is there isn't a raid finale

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Saurfang just solos N'zoth

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 3:43 AM

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would love to see the champions of azeroth be the "we need to focus on important shit" group

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wrathion, magni, khadgar, saurfang, etc.

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instead of just magni + player

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:43 AM

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Wrathion: we need to focus on important shit

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Also Wrathion: manipulates events to try and wipe out the alliance, but then the horde, but then the alliance and the horde

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khadgarface

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 3:44 AM

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I mean, if this totally real dialogue from bfa is any indication, hes tooootally gonna finally be reasonable

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https://gyazo.com/994bc8120448487e146462b28b7d3b5d

Gyazo

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:45 AM

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uh

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I'm pretty sure that's just a PC that named themselves Wrathion

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 3:45 AM

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It is lol

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:45 AM

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Oh good

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 3:45 AM

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I got a convenient name on the beta

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:45 AM

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Just making sure that point was clear 😛

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XD

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 3:45 AM

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been doing kul tiras and messing with folks

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:45 AM

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'hello fellow humans'

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 3:46 AM

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now im just waiting for the max level stuff with anduin to unlock for the real fun to begin

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:46 AM

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I've done two thirds of Zandalar and I'm still waiting for the bit where the Horde actually acts like the villains

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Since everyone keeps crying about that

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 3:47 AM

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its only in the alliance questing

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where they should be seen as villains

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:47 AM

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I've done two thirds of Kul'tiras too

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And so far the worst the Horde did was mine some azerite

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 3:47 AM

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Im happy theyre writing the perspectives properly

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:47 AM

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And the Kul'tiran quest giver goes 'the only good orc is a dead orc'

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🤔

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 3:47 AM

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well, and bomb a village with no military

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:48 AM

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Stormsong I haven't done much of yet 😛

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But after Daelin

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Well

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Cycle of hatred baby

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 3:48 AM

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but I like that the horde are villains in kul tiras, or at least proper enemies, even if it turns out that wasnt sylvanas that ordered the attack

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:48 AM

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There is that too

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Still waiting for the N'zoth cultist infiltrator surprise

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 3:48 AM

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just like if you were a solely horde player, the ashvanes in voldun wouldnt look like enemies to both factions

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theyd look like kul tirans enslaving vulpera

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:48 AM

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Oh lawlz, I haven't even seen that yet

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But yeah, if Blizz was supposedly completely changing the themes of the Horde to make them outright villains

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Then they completely forgot to add that to the Zandalar quest lines

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Because they're been pretty stock heroism and do gooding so far

jovial coral Apr 29, 2018, 3:51 AM

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The Kul'tiran quest giver goes 'the only good orc is a dead orc'??? That's racist af..

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:51 AM

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Kul'tirans are kind of dicks

terse patrol Apr 29, 2018, 3:52 AM

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but ye. I suspect we're going to get a new faction

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Called Might of Azeroth. 😛

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:52 AM

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And, like Daelin, completely missed the whole 'orcs where 1/3 responsible for saving the world'

terse patrol Apr 29, 2018, 3:52 AM

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A play on Saurfang's old joint faction, the Might of Kalimdor

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:52 AM

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Ha

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I can appreciate that

terse patrol Apr 29, 2018, 3:52 AM

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hasake1 hasake2 hasake3 hasake4

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:53 AM

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There will surely be an anti-N'zoth faction, yes

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 3:53 AM

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like even nathanos is heroic in zandalar

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hes kinda annoyed that they have to go through all this shit to get the fleet but

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he actually helps

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:54 AM

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Yeah he's still an ass

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But he sure ain't ordering you to ignore the various crises

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It ain't like saving the vulpera is part of the war effort

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 3:54 AM

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Im glad that hes less at his 7.3.5 state of mind and more a mix of his vanilla and 7.0 personalities

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:54 AM

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But you do it anyways

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 3:55 AM

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because with those he was the perfect mix of respectful and "I dont care"

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7.3.5 its literally "oh you saved the universe? big woop my girlfriends got great dead tits"

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 3:55 AM

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I mean

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He's just jealous

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He doesn't want his senpai to find a new champion

jovial coral Apr 29, 2018, 4:05 AM

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Now I feel baited

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 4:07 AM

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good

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also, Might of Azeroth as a new faction would be amazing

jovial coral Apr 29, 2018, 4:16 AM

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I'd be amazed if blizzard got new playable factions somehow.

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I honestly wouldn't even want people to know about it till it happens just because the reveal would be epic

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 4:25 AM

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Id wager it would be

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since its likely if it were to happen, it would be an xpac ending implemented in an after patch

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 4:26 AM

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if we do get a new faction, i think the ending of BfA would be the perfect time to do it

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 4:28 AM

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I mean Im expecting them to either disband the factions and make them just based on your race and questing/pve/pvp can be with anyone, or start up light/void factions next xpac

jovial coral Apr 29, 2018, 4:29 AM

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I hate to guess a spoiler, but sithilus may be the location of the reveal.

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 4:30 AM

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what makes you say that?

jovial coral Apr 29, 2018, 4:33 AM

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There was that once per server event that happened back in the day it took place in sithilus I believe

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 4:34 AM

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I still can't see how they'd ever overhaul or change the player faction system

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But ah

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AQ

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I was there

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I was there, Gandalf

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When the strength of the servers failed

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 4:34 AM

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Lord of the rings reference?

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 4:34 AM

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Yes

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 4:34 AM

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i wouldn't have caught that if you hadn't said Gandalf

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 4:35 AM

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Apparently some servers derped so hard

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Boats went to the wrong zone

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http://www.darklegacycomics.com/comics/23a.jpg

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 4:37 AM

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topkek

tulip sun Apr 29, 2018, 4:39 AM

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Hmmm

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Didnt swtor do something similar to different factions down the line?

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 4:40 AM

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Kiiiinda but not really

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The Plot has the PC become the leader of a neutral faction that's story-wise on the same level as the OG factions

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And the new BG let you randomly team with opposite faction players

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But for the most part the other faction barriers still exist with groups, guilds, and faction planets

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(Tho SWTOR never had the language barrier)

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 4:43 AM

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so yes?

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 4:44 AM

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So kind of but not really, no

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The faction system is still a thing until I can guild or group with an orc and waltz into Orgrimmar

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 4:46 AM

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you can though.
by joining horde

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 4:47 AM

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I mean, IMO most likely scenario for BfA is halfway through we'll get the midway reveal ala Argus, where the focus of the story shifts from Faction war to Nzoth, and either in a 7.3.5 style patch or in the 9.0 prepatch, factions will dissolve as a definite "you have to be a part of this as x race" at max level

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and then either lead into a united/factionless azeroth, or lead into a light/void faction system where you choose your faction regardless of race/class

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 4:49 AM

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N'zoth is 100% bursting out of the ground by 8.1 or 8.2

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 4:49 AM

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then they can just add normal skin tones to void elves and blue eyes to blood elves and call it good

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 4:49 AM

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I remain skeptical of any other major changes 😛

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 4:49 AM

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please both sides of the high elf debacle

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 4:49 AM

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But I can dream of ending the elf discourse

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 4:49 AM

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I mean my hope is that allied races are a BfA specific thing

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and alongside whatever the new class/race thing in 9.0 is, we get some base racial upgrades

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have blood elves and high elves get each others hairstyles (minus the void ones), let blood elves have blue eyes alongside green and gold, maybe some actual skin tones, let void elves have a normal skin tones and more than two good hairstyles

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repeat with other races

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give gnomes/goblins mechanical upgrades

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give more races tattoo options, the like

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 4:53 AM

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playing a void elf in light-based faction 🤔

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 4:54 AM

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if someone chooses, they can lol

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its basically the same as playing a void elf in the alliance, which is so highly light based

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 4:54 AM

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tru

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 4:54 AM

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but thats the magic of player choice

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if you wanna be a special snowflake void elf you can

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 4:55 AM

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there's also undead priests which shouldn't exist if undead paladins can't

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tbh, if they make light/ void based factions, i'm making a void elf in the light-based faction because i love chaos

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and that'd be absolutely trippy

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same thing

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http://prntscr.com/jbhpth

Lightshot

Screenshot

Captured with Lightshot

daring fern Apr 29, 2018, 5:11 AM

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for the love of god let the zandas start at 110

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Patch 7.1 notes: The superiority of the Zandalari allows them to start at 110. This will not be applied to other Allied Races, as they are not the glorious successors of the troll's mighty legacy.

tulip sun Apr 29, 2018, 5:19 AM

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I highly doubt the allied race system is just for bfa

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 5:23 AM

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with how fast theyre pumping out races we're gonna get all twelve slots on that list filled up real quick

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counting the four we have confirmed coming, with the four existing ones, theres only four slots left on that list so unless theyre gonna do an allied races 2 button, which is possible

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id wager theyll fill it up soon

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 5:24 AM

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they're giving us a few more slots tho

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 5:24 AM

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I mean slots on the creation screen

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https://gyazo.com/0b41750ff782a308c05decf6c0a003fd

Gyazo

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these slots

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 5:25 AM

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o

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 5:25 AM

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I mean

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They can just add a scroll to the bar

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Or another column

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ion: okay we're doing great with these allied races, what's next?

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random dev: sorry boss, no can do, we've filled up the column

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 5:27 AM

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I mean, they can, and probably will add new races in the future

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 5:27 AM

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some other idiot: oh, ik! we can find another way to make Sylvanas screw everything up for the horde and make the alliance do stuff that makes them seem too good to be true and say they're really evil

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 5:27 AM

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I just doubt they will add them, at least in nearly as much quantity as in BfA, in the next xpac

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 5:28 AM

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they're not that quality-ey

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 5:28 AM

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That's the point

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And why we got 6

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If not 8

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Or do we have 8 confirmed

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how do I math

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Yeah we have 8

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And that -might- bump up to 10

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Instead of just 1 entirely new race

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 5:29 AM

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Zandalari, Dark Iron Dwarf, Mag'har, Kul'tiran, nightborne, lightforged, velf, highmountain,

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8 so far, maybe 9-10 for sethrak and vulpera but those aren't confirmed

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Exactly

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Which is far better than just 1 naga neutral race

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Or uh

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Horde naga and Alliance ethereals

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I guess

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 5:30 AM

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imo, every neutral race they give us is 1 step closer to neutral faction

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 5:30 AM

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(I do want ethereals, but still)

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They'll never add a third faction

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 5:31 AM

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how do you know

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 5:31 AM

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Okay

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There is a very, very large chance they will not

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I say, admitting I have been wrong before, when I swore that Highmountain would never be a player race

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 5:32 AM

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happy khadgarface ha

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 5:32 AM

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But changing the system of how new races are added

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Is somewhat simpler than the faction system, which the entire game is structured around

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 5:33 AM

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they basically re-worked the entire game by adding universal scaling.
they can do it again with neutral factions. although it may be just a little harder

tulip sun Apr 29, 2018, 5:55 AM

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Ya

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They can easily add scroll

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There are too many opportunities for them to just limit themselves

slate ingot Apr 29, 2018, 5:56 AM

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well from what ive been playing in the beta, alliance side seems to need a lot of polish

olive mirage Apr 29, 2018, 5:57 AM

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lots of placeholders yes

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thats why its still beta

slate ingot Apr 29, 2018, 5:59 AM

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Tiragarde sound is buggy with a quest in the wrong spot and in a wall when you find it

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stormsong has a lot of terrain and texture issues with some phasing issues

olive mirage Apr 29, 2018, 6:00 AM

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need to report that shit

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thats also why the beta is a thing

slate ingot Apr 29, 2018, 6:00 AM

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I have been, some of it has carried over from alpha

olive mirage Apr 29, 2018, 6:00 AM

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terrain glitches and slightly off NPC locations are prob lower on the priority list then fixing game breaking bugs and finishing the cinimatics and stuff

slate ingot Apr 29, 2018, 6:01 AM

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Like the vol'dun war campaign, theres 5 quests which are a mix of fetch and gather and you have missing flight masters

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broken mail box at the inn at the main hub in vol'dun

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 6:01 AM

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Welcome to beta

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The first week of beta

slate ingot Apr 29, 2018, 6:01 AM

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no obviously labeled way to get back to Kul'tiras the boat drops you in the water about 40yds off shore if you take it back to vol'dun

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and the inn keeper isn't even in the inn, shes stuck under a giant stone slab about 10 yards away

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 6:02 AM

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voldun war campaign just needs a few tweaks like proper to and from, and making the base at the end a proper base

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aka beta stuff

slate ingot Apr 29, 2018, 6:03 AM

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the one at the end needs a flight master

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that run back to shatterstone is brutal

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Drustvar seems to be the most polished tho

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 6:06 AM

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been out the longest

jovial coral Apr 29, 2018, 6:31 AM

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The expac after bfa gets announced blizzcon 2019?

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 6:32 AM

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likely, since theyre keeping the same schedule as legion

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prolly a slightly better schedule than legion because the final patch (assuming its a .3.2) will be a month or two before blizzcon instead of basically during

jovial coral Apr 29, 2018, 6:37 AM

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I'm wondering if the game of thrones will be airing or over with at that point, because there's been a theory bfa will lead to some scourge related business

uncut vault Apr 29, 2018, 6:38 AM

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assuming they stick to their 2019 schedule it will be

jovial coral Apr 29, 2018, 6:50 AM

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Blizzard can probably guess what their players watch through log offs and login times

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But everybody watches GOT

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A third faction can't happen if they have no demon hunters

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 6:55 AM

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?

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sure it can

balmy heart Apr 29, 2018, 6:55 AM

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I've never watched GOT

olive mirage Apr 29, 2018, 6:55 AM

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the forsaken are pretty much a 3rd faction with how little they care for everyone else

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 6:55 AM

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i've never watched it either

terse patrol Apr 29, 2018, 6:56 AM

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well

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Two characters in Kul Tiras are basically Game of Thrones characters

jovial coral Apr 29, 2018, 6:56 AM

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Oh it's quite popular though

terse patrol Apr 29, 2018, 6:57 AM

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Daelen Proudmoore is literally Robert Baratheon.

jovial coral Apr 29, 2018, 6:57 AM

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Yeah

terse patrol Apr 29, 2018, 6:57 AM

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And uh. There’s some scribe guy or whatever who sounds exactly like Sam.

jovial coral Apr 29, 2018, 7:01 AM

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Sams like my favorite character

tropic trail Apr 29, 2018, 8:02 AM

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Robert is the fat king that dies right at the start right?

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I don't see the connection to daelen

ruby star Apr 29, 2018, 9:49 AM

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I think it's the same voice actor

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Mark Addy

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who was the actor who played Robert Baratheon in the show

tropic trail Apr 29, 2018, 12:16 PM

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You’re Invited to the Battle for Azeroth Beta Test!

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Oh, well thank you Blizzard

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subtle forge Apr 29, 2018, 12:40 PM

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grats

frigid umbra Apr 29, 2018, 1:14 PM

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gz

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was this just now??? did a new inv wave go out?

tropic trail Apr 29, 2018, 1:16 PM

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@frigid umbra I unno i just got home and notice in my mail i had it.Then i checked my launcher and there it was

frigid umbra Apr 29, 2018, 2:36 PM

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i see

dense plover Apr 29, 2018, 2:56 PM

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definitely not a new wave

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email takes a few days, so you probably had access for a bit

misty blaze Apr 29, 2018, 3:18 PM

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damnit they need to flag my account for beta i spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars in the game most likely more than is pent into tcgs

true matrix Apr 29, 2018, 3:24 PM

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lol no

slate ingot Apr 29, 2018, 6:20 PM

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god drustvar is annoying in the crimson forest at the moment

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cant pick up these quests as untargetable constructs are killing people lol

dense plover Apr 29, 2018, 6:40 PM

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report the bug, make a forum post

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move on

near cosmos Apr 29, 2018, 6:56 PM

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beta gonna bet

tropic trail Apr 29, 2018, 7:04 PM

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im not in beta but honest question how is monk looking in beta (windwalker) to be specific

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 8:02 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

young tangle Apr 29, 2018, 8:22 PM

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wtf Blizz, where is my beta invite? lol

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 8:24 PM

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it gets randomly sent out

ruby star Apr 29, 2018, 8:51 PM

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new build tommorrow?

dense plover Apr 29, 2018, 8:56 PM

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probably tuesday

ruby star Apr 29, 2018, 9:14 PM

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yeah, hopefully! 😄 also Peach did you have any luck with getting beta?

dense plover Apr 29, 2018, 9:30 PM

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im getting a key soon. theyre going to start next week

ruby star Apr 29, 2018, 9:36 PM

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Nice! 😄 they said they'd give you one?

dense plover Apr 29, 2018, 9:38 PM

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MyMindWontQuiet came in here and asked if anyone wanted them. he said that blizzard would be giving them early this week, and that, as a mod of r/wow, he could give some to those that want them

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then people here said that was wrong since the keys were meant for a giveaway

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 9:38 PM

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they are tho

dense plover Apr 29, 2018, 9:38 PM

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even though the way blizz gives away keys is like - here are 20 keys, use 10 for the giveaway

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they give keys to the people doing the giveaway to do as they please edgy

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they expect a certain amount for the giveaway, and then they purposefully give extra

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this way, no mod ever feels like keeping a key for their friend

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instead they are just given one

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im sure if you nicely msg MyMindWontQuiet, he might be able to get you a key, if not this week, then the next giveaway

ruby star Apr 29, 2018, 9:41 PM

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Ah nice ❤

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Thanks for the info peach

tropic trail Apr 29, 2018, 9:42 PM

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I'm not sure if I even want a key at this point, most of the stuff has been added, and the expac is only a few months away, wouldn't want to burn myself out on it before it's even out.

dense plover Apr 29, 2018, 9:42 PM

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i plan to level up once in each set

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thats it

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maybe run a few dungeons

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play around in zuldazar for way too much time

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use it to inspire my composition

tropic trail Apr 29, 2018, 9:43 PM

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for sure, would still be awesome to run around and explore tho, if I did get a key I would definitely use it.

ruby star Apr 29, 2018, 9:47 PM

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I'd wany beta to give feedback and test for bugs and test all the features

dense plover Apr 29, 2018, 9:47 PM

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well still

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as someone who played in the last two betas

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be careful about burnout

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dont put in too much time

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and generally, dont level your main class

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level a class youll never play

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so that when you level your main, it feels like new

ruby star Apr 29, 2018, 9:51 PM

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Yeah

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Is every feature available on beta such as warfronts?

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Or are warfronts disabled

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 9:54 PM

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Nope

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Expeditions are up

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No Warfronts

dense plover Apr 29, 2018, 9:55 PM

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warfronts had one test

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and my guess is they had a lot of work they saw they needed

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so theyre working on that

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and then it will go live on beta

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might happen in next build

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along with more of the war campaign

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 9:56 PM

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The Warfront test was kiiiinda messy

dense plover Apr 29, 2018, 9:56 PM

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and the last two dungeons

rich apex Apr 29, 2018, 9:56 PM

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But they've still got 4 months to go

tropic trail Apr 29, 2018, 9:57 PM

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sry guys, just started to try out the beta, where is ignore pain on the warrior or a good replacement spell for it atm? am i just blind or did they completly remove it and i only have shield block now?

meager warren Apr 29, 2018, 10:00 PM

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it should be in spell-book if it hasn't been removed

jovial coral Apr 29, 2018, 10:00 PM

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Really?

clever ember Apr 29, 2018, 10:14 PM

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Last I heard it was removed. I remember people complaining about it.

sage tapir Apr 29, 2018, 10:16 PM

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not removed, changed to spend rage on a flat 60% damage reduction

dense plover Apr 29, 2018, 10:16 PM

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^

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all active mitigation in BfA was changed

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it now is a flat percent

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and if it had magic reduction, it now has much less

cursive dagger Apr 29, 2018, 10:29 PM

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underlight angler, is it going to be just a legion thing with bfa? i want to farm it but it seems hard, i'm not going to do if it's going to be worthless after bfa. they remove the traits etc.

tropic trail Apr 29, 2018, 10:33 PM

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"the underlight angler has become unstable from absorbing the power from sargeras sword!" would be funny, having a fishingpole that could explode at any second from the power stored within

tranquil steeple Apr 29, 2018, 10:46 PM

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Every fish you fish up has a chance to be burnt, just like Nomi's food

dense plover Apr 29, 2018, 11:13 PM

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pretty sure the underlight angler is staying

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its not getting more content, but since it doesnt matter for stats, i wouldnt be surprised if it remains unretired

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that hinted at that

ashen roost Apr 30, 2018, 12:29 AM

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According to the guild I’m in the angler will be unaffected by the retirement of other artifacts

mortal zephyr Apr 30, 2018, 12:35 AM

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The beta changes are listed on WH for classes and talents

dense plover Apr 30, 2018, 12:54 AM

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yes, the ones that have been changed so far

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some of the upcoming changes arent there because they are coming in the next major build

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just click the beta checkbox in the top right of the site

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that will make the beta changes available in the talent and spell areas

tulip sun Apr 30, 2018, 2:04 AM

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Can we appreciate

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How amazing this is

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 2:08 AM

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appreciate that we'll never get it 😢

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 2:35 AM

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why do you say that, port?

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 2:37 AM

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cause im still waiting for all the unused wrath and cata tiers

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 2:38 AM

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o

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 2:39 AM

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al the other unused legion ones too

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and the unused CM sets

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 3:54 AM

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good wowhead article

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:00 AM

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Surely this will be the straw that breaks the Ion camel's back

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BFA delayed so they can make high elf allied race the priority

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:01 AM

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omegaLUL

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:02 AM

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i still don't see why the alliance players who want high elves can't just play blood elves

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:03 AM

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because if they play blood elves they don't get the amazing blue eyes

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:03 AM

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why do blue eyes matter

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:03 AM

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they're too righteous and uptight for green eyed elves

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:03 AM

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they're exactly the same

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:03 AM

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green is evil

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it's fucking ridiculous

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:03 AM

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Mal'furion is green

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is he evil?

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the orcs are green. are they evil?

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:04 AM

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tell that to the high elf fanatics

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:04 AM

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lol

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the high elf fanatics are fucking idiots

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:04 AM

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amen

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:04 AM

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"Want high elves? The Horde is there waiting for you"

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:05 AM

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khadgarface

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Remember, Allied Races are lazy designing

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Unless it involves changing the eye color of blood elves

olive mirage Apr 30, 2018, 4:05 AM

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which they already did!

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they gave them gold eyes in the beta

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:05 AM

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and?

olive mirage Apr 30, 2018, 4:05 AM

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boom, new allied race material right there

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:05 AM

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it's not BLUE!!!!

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:05 AM

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scarcely

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:06 AM

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/s

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:06 AM

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So if a high elf paladin gets gold eyes from the Light, can he go back to Silvermoon 🤔

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:06 AM

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eww

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:06 AM

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they already changed the color of the prime race

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:06 AM

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that's a problem right there

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:06 AM

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they're not putting any effort into an allied race because what's the point

olive mirage Apr 30, 2018, 4:07 AM

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i mean, according to half the people on the forums, all the allied races are just reskins and should be customization options, but then they say high elves need to be an allied race and not a customization option vvDerp

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:07 AM

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omegaLUL

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:07 AM

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allied races are just cheap reskins
we need a cheap reskin blood elf

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:07 AM

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Highmountain Tauren and Zandalari Trolls and Lightforged are a little more than just cheap reskins

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:07 AM

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proving the point that they're all a bunch of deluded idiots

olive mirage Apr 30, 2018, 4:07 AM

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they are the definition of reskin

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:07 AM

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lol nah

olive mirage Apr 30, 2018, 4:07 AM

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take a tauren, add bigger antlers

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:08 AM

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And that's why we're getting 8 Allied Races

olive mirage Apr 30, 2018, 4:08 AM

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boom highmountain

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:08 AM

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Instead of 1 neutral race

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(if not 10 Allied Races, depending)

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:08 AM

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the fact they have bigger antlers is my point

olive mirage Apr 30, 2018, 4:08 AM

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take a draeni, give it a glowy forehead and golden eyes, boom lightforged

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:08 AM

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and the regular tauren don't even have antlers

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:08 AM

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implying that a blood elf with blue eyes isn't the definition of reskin omegaLUL

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:08 AM

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^

olive mirage Apr 30, 2018, 4:09 AM

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the only difference between tauren and highmountain tauren is the horns... they look exactly the same

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:09 AM

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still more difference than switched eye colours

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:09 AM

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so if highmountain tauren and lightforged are that bad, what are you complaining about high elves for

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:09 AM

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Like I'm all for a high elf Allied Race that has proper work, new hairstyles, tattoos

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But that shit doesn't happen overnight

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:09 AM

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^

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:09 AM

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And they won't change the dev schedule for Allied Races because of a forum petition

olive mirage Apr 30, 2018, 4:10 AM

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i honestly couldnt care less about whats an allied race

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its more content

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:10 AM

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That too

olive mirage Apr 30, 2018, 4:10 AM

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i just find the forum whiners hilarious

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:10 AM

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The Allied Race system is great

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But like

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:10 AM

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if you couldn't care less, what are you even doing here?

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:10 AM

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Its not just the visuals

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:10 AM

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They'll probably-definitely put high elves in 9.0

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:10 AM

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its the lore behind the visuals

olive mirage Apr 30, 2018, 4:10 AM

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laughing at the people whining they cant play a blood elf with blue eyes LUL

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:10 AM

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despite what people (including ion) say, high elves do have a different story since WC3

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the high elves a lot of people want have had a different backstory for around 3k years in fact

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:11 AM

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yes they do

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but the thing is

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high elves aqre no different aesthetically from blood elves

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and there's RP

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:11 AM

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https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2382861-Official-High-Elf-Discussion-Megathread

Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

Mod note: This is now the officially designated High Elf discussion thread. Please keep all discussion regarding this race in here.

But also there isn't a clear example of ...

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:11 AM

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if you want to RP as a high elf, you're welcome to

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:11 AM

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I refer you to this, an aesthetic for high elves not shown in game

olive mirage Apr 30, 2018, 4:12 AM

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how to play high elf, choose blood elf, and call yourself a high elf, boom done rooSip

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:12 AM

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which is why they're never going to be an allied race

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:12 AM

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exactly

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:13 AM

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they're not about to make a whole new model because 500 people signed some obscure petition and complained on forums

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:13 AM

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^

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:13 AM

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I mean, the only real reason theyre not gonna be an allied race is cause ion doesnt want them. Id be fine with that if he were honest about it

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:13 AM

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gonna need their entire active player base to scream on the forums before they even think about it

olive mirage Apr 30, 2018, 4:13 AM

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they wouldnt have to make a new model, just throw a different skin on the blood elf skeleton

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:13 AM

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They'll probably be an Allied Race in 9.0

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:13 AM

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even respect the opinion

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:13 AM

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But even a reskin isn't made overnight

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:13 AM

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Ion doesn't care.
he just doesn't want to waste time

true matrix Apr 30, 2018, 4:14 AM

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ion isn't some kind of omnipotent authority

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:14 AM

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Unless, of course, Ion has truly revealed his bias

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His personal hatred of high elves

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:14 AM

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I mean he cant hate them that much

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:14 AM

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Ion isn't Horde or Alliance biased

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:14 AM

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it's not because ion doesn't want them it's because the vast majority of the playerbase doesn't give a flying steaming fuck about high elves

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:14 AM

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doesnt even know what they are

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:14 AM

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He's just biased against high elves

sudden pollen Apr 30, 2018, 4:14 AM

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High elves smell bad anyway.

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:14 AM

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khadgarface

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:14 AM

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he's biased against wasting time more like

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murloc

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Orcs smell bad too

true matrix Apr 30, 2018, 4:15 AM

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@uncut vault GOD that customisation concept is ugly as hell

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:15 AM

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I mean a vast majority of the playerbase didnt care about kul tiras, or dark iron dwarves, or void elves (literally nobody did because they didnt exist)

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:15 AM

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it looks like some kind of elf goth

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absolutely ridiculous

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:15 AM

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that looks like the goblin king from the labyrinth

true matrix Apr 30, 2018, 4:15 AM

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Elf Cyberpunk Gone Wrong

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"I'll just put random lines all over my face so the cameras don't recognise it"

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:16 AM

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doesnt mean it isnt different. I personally dont like a lot of the choices theyre doing for zandalari visuals in BfA, doesnt mean theyre not unique from the normal trolls

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:17 AM

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a vast majority of the player base didn't care about kul tiras because it was a vague thing that became irrelevant after classic.
but even after it became irellevant, it wouldn't have been a waste of time to bring it back. same for DID and Velfs.

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DID are actually aesthetically different from Dwarves and Void Elves are aesthetically different from blood elves.
Aside from the eye-color, the same can't be said for high elves

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:18 AM

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yknow, you really should go back to your old name, fit better

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:18 AM

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except i'm not trolling rn

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is any of what i've said hard to understand?

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:19 AM

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Not hard to understand, just ignorant of the facts presented 🤷

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:19 AM

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nah it's just what people do when they run out of arguments to make

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:19 AM

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had this debate too many times, not really worth it at this point

sage tapir Apr 30, 2018, 4:19 AM

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aha

untold fractal Apr 30, 2018, 4:20 AM

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Madness isnt wrong though, besides eye color, the largest difference between high elves and blood elves is that high elves are largely within the Alliance

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:20 AM

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ignorant of what facts

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and what gymer said

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:20 AM

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biggest difference between kul tirans and normal humans pre-BfA was nothing at all

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its almost like blizz can insert aesthetics that exist in a group to make them unique

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something thats been proposed many times over, and ignored by people who dont want high elves a lot

untold fractal Apr 30, 2018, 4:22 AM

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granted, it would be fairly easy to high elves as an allied race. They would just need to define a few different aesthetic features to the already existing Blood Elf models, i.e. eye colors, and give them a larger role within the Alliance.

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:22 AM

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theyve already got a bigger role in the alliance than half the existing races

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:23 AM

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i don't care if we get high elves or not.
i just don't see the point in getting them if the only things that would be different is eye-color and maybe a few tattoos.
the concept you showed above wasn't different aesthetics actually.
they slapped tattoos on blood elves and said they'd be high elves

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:23 AM

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It's not that Blizz can't do it ever

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It's that they're not doing it in the immediate future

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And apparently that's worth a forum riot

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:23 AM

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But unless you can show me a place where kul tirans were as big as they are now before BfA, the point of current aesthetics not being unique is moot.

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the riot from the QnA isnt over the fact that it isnt happening now

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It was obvious they werent happening now

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but the reasoning of "high elves dont exist in the alliance" doesnt work

rich apex Apr 30, 2018, 4:24 AM

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People asked Blizz why, Ion gave an answer

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They could have just as easily ignored it and saved themselves the trouble

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:24 AM

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Even as a high elf fan Id rather he done that

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would have made it easier

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:24 AM

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who said high elves don't exist in the alliance

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and had he done that, you'd still be complaining

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but you're complaining either way so eh

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:26 AM

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"there isn't a clear example of who or what High Elves are as a larger group which remains in Azeroth. "you're an Alliance player, and want to be a fair-skinned, light-haired, blue-eyed elf. Sorry? The Horde is there and waiting for you."

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ion said it

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like I said, I'd be fine if he just gave the reasoning of not wanting to put inthe resources of embellishing their aesthetic, or just not wanting them

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the fuss is over his bad reasons, not the outcome we already knew

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:27 AM

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well, i mean..
the high elves are an entire race or subrace, i guess.

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to say they all belong to this or that group is just... wrong

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:29 AM

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theres also the matter of 0 blue eyed belfs in game, which so many people base their logic off of

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:29 AM

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wat

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:30 AM

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"you're an Alliance player, and want to be a fair-skinned, light-haired, blue-eyed elf. Sorry? The Horde is there and waiting for you."

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there are no blue eyed blood elves in the horde

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:30 AM

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and?

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:31 AM

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And its another point of why people are mad, ion's points dont make sense

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:31 AM

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they do tho

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people want to play blood elves on alliance

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but with blue eyes

uncut vault Apr 30, 2018, 4:31 AM

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like I said, old name fit better

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 4:31 AM

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when they could just re-roll horde

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very funny

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📎 so_original.jpg

slate ingot Apr 30, 2018, 4:46 AM

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possible tol'dagor achievement?

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tulip sun Apr 30, 2018, 5:00 AM

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Lets not forget it was stated belves would eventually regain their blue eyes

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So adding high elves woyod ruin that future lore development

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Would**

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 5:09 AM

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^

frigid umbra Apr 30, 2018, 5:10 AM

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Ooo my... still on the high elfs nonsence?... its done, they are not making them. Plus high elfs are bloodelfs in lore after they are banished from kalimdor.

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 5:10 AM

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they are not making them.
we've said that, AlexxCri

terse patrol Apr 30, 2018, 5:19 AM

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“after they are banished from kalimdor”

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Gotta love people who don’t know their lore.

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Here’s the progression.

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Dark troll -> Night Elf/Highborne -> High Elves -> Culture Split (90% call themselves Blood Elves, 10% High Elves, basically).

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 5:22 AM

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would undead druids be possible?

terse patrol Apr 30, 2018, 5:22 AM

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High Elves are Highborne who left Kalimdor to settle a new land away from the Night Elves, and changed physically.

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No.

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 5:22 AM

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:c

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why not tho

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there's undead paladins and priests

terse patrol Apr 30, 2018, 5:23 AM

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A druid’s biology changes during transformation.

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A corpse has no living body to change.

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 5:23 AM

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sure it does

terse patrol Apr 30, 2018, 5:24 AM

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Plus, it doesn’t fit them culturally at all.

meager warren Apr 30, 2018, 5:24 AM

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you underestimate the power of rot

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give them sick undead forms

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that would fit their culture

olive mirage Apr 30, 2018, 5:36 AM

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in lore, all undead priests are shadow, and undead paladins dont exist

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since the light causes them physical pain

limber mural Apr 30, 2018, 6:19 AM

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isn't faol a disco though

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if my memory's right, he's not a shadow

rich burrow Apr 30, 2018, 6:25 AM

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isnt he disc?

terse patrol Apr 30, 2018, 6:26 AM

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Alonsus Faol is a holy priest I think

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Either way

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Forsaken holy priests exist, but there are few of them, and most are probably independent or were in the Argent Crusade.

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They accept the pain using holy magic gives them, because it reminds them that the state they are in isn’t natural, and shouldn’t be something they should revel in like Sylvanas’ Forsaken do.

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My hope is Alonsus Faol gets to rejoin the Alliance, considering he protected Calia Menethil from the Scourge and from Sylvanas.

true matrix Apr 30, 2018, 6:34 AM

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there's characters like zeliek too, right?

terse patrol Apr 30, 2018, 6:34 AM

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yes

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Tho, he wasn’t in control of himself

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tbh, there’s no reason Forsaken Paladins can’t exist, but they’d really clash with Sylvanas’ Forsaken.

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I think if Sylvanas ever got off of the “evil bitch” bandwagon, maybe the Forsaken could get paladins.

chilly abyss Apr 30, 2018, 7:01 AM

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Imagine if she was successful in imprisioning the valkyr in stormheim. forsaken could have had a situation like the blood elves where they force the light to serve them or whatever

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the could still do something similar with forsaken if they wanted.

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inb4 lightforged forsaken XD (jk)

frigid umbra Apr 30, 2018, 7:03 AM

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High elfs are blood elfs... the only dif is one serves the ally one serves horde. And the only known group of high elfs are the silver covanent... which cannot be called a race or people.. its just a group that did not want to accept the fate that they had and change from supporting the ally after the third war.

true matrix Apr 30, 2018, 7:03 AM

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lightforged forsaken: literally just a pile of ash

chilly abyss Apr 30, 2018, 7:03 AM

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XD

tropic trail Apr 30, 2018, 7:09 AM

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lol, wowhead put out a pro highelf article, this should be fun.

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PLEASE. LET.IT.DIE. =_=

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Enough with the god damn elves we got too many of them already

chilly abyss Apr 30, 2018, 7:26 AM

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Yeah I mean blizz pretty much said whats to be said with that.

elder otter Apr 30, 2018, 7:26 AM

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@tropic trail It wasn't for or against... just a summary of recent discussion as a result of the Q&A.

chilly abyss Apr 30, 2018, 7:27 AM

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though I would die of laughter if they just added blue eyes for blood elves.

tropic trail Apr 30, 2018, 7:36 AM

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oh i'd love if they did >;D

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just to piss Alliance kiddies.

chilly abyss Apr 30, 2018, 7:36 AM

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Same

tropic trail Apr 30, 2018, 7:37 AM

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or sorry, my Hordiness is showing too much here.

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The fact that you refer to people that want high elves as "alliance kiddies" is so cringe

balmy heart Apr 30, 2018, 7:46 AM

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Or piss off Hordies because there's still pansy elves in the Horde...