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tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 8:44 PM

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I think it would have been neat if pandas were only one faction

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Have the wandering isle be the racial capiyol

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I wonder how different things would be...

tropic trail Mar 31, 2018, 8:45 PM

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yeah, I think pandas were the wrong race to make neutral

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goblins would've made a better neutral race imo

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since that's what they were in game previously

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 8:45 PM

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I mean, it kinda worked. Just gotta have them appear more

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And show the different ideologies or whatever

tropic trail Mar 31, 2018, 8:46 PM

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the problem is, how do you make them appear? are they going to slaughter their former friends and relatives just for choosing to wear blue over red, or vise versa?

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 8:51 PM

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Yes

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That is exactly what they agreed too

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And they obviously are loyal, or why would Ji and Aysa return after all that happened

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Not all pandaren are cuddly and such.

tropic trail Mar 31, 2018, 8:53 PM

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those oaths were made to a dead king and a deceased tyrant tho

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just saying, even if I vowed to sever all ties, I'm not sure I would be so quick to slaughter friends and family

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and what was their incentive to join either faction anyway?

rich apex Mar 31, 2018, 8:55 PM

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Presumably at this point

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They care about the people they've fought with for 5 years

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However long it's been

strange falcon Mar 31, 2018, 8:56 PM

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6 years ish i think

tropic trail Mar 31, 2018, 8:56 PM

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wow time is about the same as real time right?

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because legions start was supposed to be 10 years or so after BC

hollow dock Mar 31, 2018, 9:00 PM

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Less time than that

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every expansion except WoD and Pandaria have taken 1 year each

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WoD and Pandaria have taken 2 years each.

strange falcon Mar 31, 2018, 9:01 PM

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not counting legion that's 6 years from tbc's end

hollow dock Mar 31, 2018, 9:01 PM

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which is why I say, there shouldn't be any factions realistically. unless we have cloning technology or resurrection is a common thing.

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and the latter is really unlikely.

wild pewter Mar 31, 2018, 9:08 PM

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Just got alpha access, very excited!

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 9:09 PM

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So they most likely have close friendships and ties to their factions now

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They have been with them for several years

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It makes sense

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As hyper said

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If family members or friends met in battle, they likely wouldn't severely injure

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Depending

ruby star Mar 31, 2018, 9:11 PM

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@wild pewter Congrats dude! 😄

wild pewter Mar 31, 2018, 9:12 PM

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Thank you! 😄

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 9:13 PM

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There are pandaren troops under command of our characters even

rich apex Mar 31, 2018, 9:13 PM

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Presumably the pandas of all people are nice enough not to judge the Horde solely from Garrosh

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 9:13 PM

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Ji clearly sees the difference

ruby star Mar 31, 2018, 9:13 PM

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What time tomorrow will Blizz roughly do the APril fools post?

tropic trail Mar 31, 2018, 9:23 PM

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they might even just wait until monday for april fools, since tomorrow is also easter

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and a sunday

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 9:40 PM

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I wanna see an alliance or horde general be a pandaren...

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I am having a blast thinking about how racial order halls would work out. They are highly unlikely, but very fun to think aboit

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Aboit

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About, agh

mortal zephyr Mar 31, 2018, 9:56 PM

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I love your idea

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 10:20 PM

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I have whole paragraphs written

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Will post later

hollow dock Mar 31, 2018, 10:31 PM

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Personally, I'd want profession halls. Like a place in Ironforge for Blacksmiths and Engineers.

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 10:37 PM

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Well i totally forgot to respond to my own post here XD

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10 convos at once = bad idea

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Anywho! ?Vris, there are very close similarities between howard & HP/s serpent people, and the sethrak

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and yes, it is technically part of HP's work, as they both helped eachother brainstorm, and referenced eachother's series multiple times throughout their stories

ruby star Mar 31, 2018, 10:43 PM

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I just want High Elves,Wildhammer Dwarves,mechagnomes,Vkyrul,Jjnyu. Islands expeditions already have me sold same with Warfronts. :D (I love allied race system) I'm generally looking forward to BFA

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Also that Bronto mount looks <3

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 10:44 PM

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Simliarities between serpent men and sethrak:

Both worshipped a giant serpernt
Lived amoung dinosaurs
Both ended up splitting into two groups
Both are empires that were based on Alchemy and Sorcery
The sethrak live in the land voldun, while the serpernt men live in the land Valusia
They're both humanoids with scaled skin and snake-like heads.

hollow dock Mar 31, 2018, 10:45 PM

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that is true

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however.

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 10:45 PM

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Yea droth! Cant wait for wildhammer!

hollow dock Mar 31, 2018, 10:45 PM

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It's not him that specifically made all this.

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as in, he's not the first one to write it all down.

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 10:45 PM

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although i don't think wildhammer will come this xpac

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Vris can you tell me who is?

hollow dock Mar 31, 2018, 10:46 PM

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Ancient, ancient, ancient people. Snakemen and Lizard-folk have been in literature and history for longer than the past 120 or so years.

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 10:46 PM

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but with these specific traits....

hollow dock Mar 31, 2018, 10:46 PM

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Much like flood stories. Gods killing dragons.

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 10:47 PM

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cause flood stories are eerily similar to eachother, but serpent people take MANY different approaches.

hollow dock Mar 31, 2018, 10:47 PM

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Perhaps in the looks, but what's to say Blizzard didn't copy most of the traits and altered what they didn't like from the very popular Dark Souls series?

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 10:48 PM

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uhhh warcraft predated dark souls

hollow dock Mar 31, 2018, 10:48 PM

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Snakemen haven't.

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These guys have come only within these recent months. Possibly year.

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 10:49 PM

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The kull series is a popular marvel comic series that nerds in college in the 70's would have read.... which is why i think they got the idea and adapted it from them.

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I'm not saying it's 100%, but it's highly likely

uncut vault Mar 31, 2018, 10:49 PM

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Alternatively: they’re just snake people because humans tend to do animal/human hybrids a lot and snakes eat small furry creatures

hollow dock Mar 31, 2018, 10:50 PM

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Both of those are just as true.

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DnD also has snake men that worship snake gods. So there's a lot of different places the Sethrak come from.

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 10:50 PM

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but specifically the connection to the dinosaurs, the giant snake god, AND kul tiras at the same time porter? unlikely.

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not to mention Kul'tiras's connection to wow's equivelent of atlantis

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of which the kull series began

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atlantis that is

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People adapt ideas from the things they love because they wanna do their own take on it. This is the perfect example of a few college guys sitting down and comming up with lands and places based on stuff they experianced. ofc D&D was used heavily in warcraft's development. so was HP, Howard, and other pop culture heavy hitters at the time

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I don't doubt that there was a booklet somewhere with the sethrak written down from way back when. we've seen it before. blizzard has shown us sketches of things that didnt happen for years later. so to say that somthing isnt likely because of time elapsed is just rediculous.

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I'm trying to show yall something that could be really cool. something that the blizzard devs could have borrowed from. instead of saying oh, that's pretty interesting, maybe i'll check it out. you Insist on trying to prove it false.

terse patrol Mar 31, 2018, 11:01 PM

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tbh

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Would be cool if Sethrak could be druids

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Druids of the Fang. Wind serpent flight form pls

uncut vault Mar 31, 2018, 11:02 PM

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As long as their travel form is just them slithering

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:03 PM

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lol

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oml wind serpent flight form o.o

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idk they seem to arcane/alchemy to be druids, but that's my opinion

hollow dock Mar 31, 2018, 11:11 PM

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I would say animals shapeshifting into animals is a stupid idea. but then the tauren and worgen exist.

uncut vault Mar 31, 2018, 11:11 PM

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still think worgen deserve a glyph that lets them just fight in their normal form for feral

hollow dock Mar 31, 2018, 11:12 PM

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Animations are the issue.

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For the abilities.

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 11:12 PM

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I would prefer animal races not shapeshifting into themselves

hollow dock Mar 31, 2018, 11:12 PM

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Snake transforms into a cat

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that's perfectly fine.

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A panda exists.

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That's not OK.

uncut vault Mar 31, 2018, 11:12 PM

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well of all the races, worgen have the most melee anims afaik

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got like three variants of slash and jump

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at least men

hollow dock Mar 31, 2018, 11:13 PM

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because of the feral worgen.

uncut vault Mar 31, 2018, 11:13 PM

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look I just wanna prowl and slash things like a real predator

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no stabby stabby

hollow dock Mar 31, 2018, 11:14 PM

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Id love for a worgen to douse his claws in poison

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and then nick himself on acciden

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https://i.imgur.com/UZtLkcp.jpg like this.

Imgur

I am deadly rogue who uses poison

carmine junco Mar 31, 2018, 11:17 PM

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Yeah, if you use a disguise item (ex: orb of deception), you'll retain that disguise's humanoid form, about 90% of the animations are just the same one played over and over.

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:20 PM

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So i think it's probable that we will be receiving one or more allied races each major patch, based on the speed at which they are produced, and the datamined info received.

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At the end of the Vulpera questline once you become exalted there is both a tabbard and a cloak availible, which is pretty normal. however! it seems that there is an extra reward availble at the end. we have no idea what the alliance equivelent would be.

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BUT

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I am Predicting that Gnolls and Furblogs will be the next allied race

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This is based on three, desputable main points

ruby star Mar 31, 2018, 11:26 PM

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whispers High Elves ;)

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:27 PM

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four*
one Hogger has been datamined to have escaped
two The gnoll war was the most savage human war before the 3rd war
three Gnolls and Furblogs are the only two "Beat em' up" vanilla huminoids that have yet to receive updated models, even when they are, or have been majorly or minorly realevent
four There has been datamined seige objects which have been named as "westfall", and having enemies behind enemy lines would be very plausable.

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High elves are highly unlikely. the closest thing we will probably get is another skin color, similar to blood elves getting gold eye

sharp bluff Mar 31, 2018, 11:28 PM

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You know I just thought of a way blizz can give Alliance High Elfs, but screw them over at the same time

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High Elfs :: Dark Rangers

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Dark Rangers > High Elfs, would make sense

ruby star Mar 31, 2018, 11:28 PM

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I'd be up for that! ALLIANCE gets High Elves and hordr Dark rangers

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:28 PM

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High elves =/= dark rangers :3

ruby star Mar 31, 2018, 11:28 PM

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Sorry caps

uncut vault Mar 31, 2018, 11:28 PM

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tfw someone says "high elves are unlikely" and "we should get devolved pandaren" in the same sentence

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:29 PM

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Devolved pandaren? Haha wut

ruby star Mar 31, 2018, 11:29 PM

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I honestly think High Elves are highly likely but that's my personal opinion:D

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:29 PM

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High elves have the same predicament as wildhammer

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Not a lot to differentiate without some retconning to appearance.

uncut vault Mar 31, 2018, 11:31 PM

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I mean thats kinda the whole thing with allied races

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taking a trait and accentuating it

ruby star Mar 31, 2018, 11:31 PM

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Theres plenty of custimisations options High Elves could be given :D like Tattoo, altered human idle animati9ns etc new hair

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:31 PM

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I mean sure, eye color tattoos hair and jewelry, but blizz may not think thats enough for this xpac

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I would think high eleves and wildhammer will happen next xpac

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In a Northrend sequel or similar.

uncut vault Mar 31, 2018, 11:31 PM

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Oh I personally dont expect them this xpac. Sometime in the future, absolutely

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likely not BfA

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:32 PM

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But gnolls and furblogs are likely for bfa in regards to datamining and story

ruby star Mar 31, 2018, 11:32 PM

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Yeah I wouldn't expect them till late BFA or 9.0+

uncut vault Mar 31, 2018, 11:32 PM

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I havent seen anything related to them, where was it datamined?

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:32 PM

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Try 8.1 😉 stormwind invasion

ruby star Mar 31, 2018, 11:32 PM

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I hope Gnolls are not for alliance

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That would be a no no xD

uncut vault Mar 31, 2018, 11:33 PM

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well assuming there are hints, Id assumg gnolls would be horde and furbolgs alliance

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:33 PM

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@uncut vault hogger escaped, and there are siege objects taged to westfall datamined

uncut vault Mar 31, 2018, 11:33 PM

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gnolls hate humans and furbolgs love nelfs

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:33 PM

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Gnolls would be horde furblog would be alliance

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And that would give both factions a group behind enemy lines

ruby star Mar 31, 2018, 11:34 PM

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Would be cool I'd never play em, but I'd be happy for those who would

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:34 PM

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If they give me gnolls i will favtion change to horde gor the first time in 11 yrs

sharp bluff Mar 31, 2018, 11:35 PM

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But which healing class would the gnolls get? shaman?

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:35 PM

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Mhm

ruby star Mar 31, 2018, 11:35 PM

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Aha cool!! If High Elves do eventually come out, I'll main a High Elf mage <3

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:36 PM

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Gnolls would have shaman warlock warrior hunter mage

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At least

ruby star Mar 31, 2018, 11:36 PM

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Gnolls would actually be quite cool for Horde

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:37 PM

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Yep and lore wise they are 7 ft tall

sharp bluff Mar 31, 2018, 11:38 PM

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so they fit the height requirement taht all but forsaken and goblins have

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oh never mind orcs are only 6'6"

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:39 PM

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Lol

sharp bluff Mar 31, 2018, 11:40 PM

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wait wowhead says they are 7

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belf are 6' though

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:40 PM

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Orcs are 7 no hung

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Hunch

sharp bluff Mar 31, 2018, 11:40 PM

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https://img.fireden.net/tg/image/1453/22/1453228787892.png

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where i am looking

plain vigil Mar 31, 2018, 11:41 PM

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Gnolls are 7 with “hunch” but its not really a hunch

uncut vault Mar 31, 2018, 11:42 PM

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that chart isnt accurate to lore

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just in game models

sharp bluff Mar 31, 2018, 11:42 PM

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I can't find any good lore ones

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based on in game though they are at least

uncut vault Mar 31, 2018, 11:43 PM

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theres no full lore one, sadly

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all theyve given for official races is "blood elves are a bit taller than humans" and the orc and tauren numbers

dense plover Mar 31, 2018, 11:44 PM

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and the darkspear troll numbers

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with a description of zandalari being taller than them

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which they are now ingame

sharp bluff Mar 31, 2018, 11:46 PM

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ooooo a pepe tattoo

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humans get tattoos

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ok that is real nice

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shame my human will be swapped to a KT human when they are released

uncut vault Mar 31, 2018, 11:47 PM

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zandalari and darkspear are actually the same height when the darkspear do their upright stance

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on alpha

sharp bluff Mar 31, 2018, 11:48 PM

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that is a pretty cool thing to see I bet

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 11:48 PM

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The only thing I saw about hogger

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Was that someone was impersonating him

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The next races I am doubtful will be gnolls

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I can see furbolgs, but not gnolls

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There are so many more likely races

rich apex Mar 31, 2018, 11:49 PM

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TATTOOS

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 11:49 PM

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Vulpera, Hozen, Jinyu...

rich apex Mar 31, 2018, 11:49 PM

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...dva, pepe, and sylvie options

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screams internally

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 11:49 PM

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Undead rangers

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Broken

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Frost dwarves

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Taunka

rich apex Mar 31, 2018, 11:50 PM

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...wait

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 11:50 PM

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Why would they pick gnolls over any of the stated?

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Those tattoos are a total joke

rich apex Mar 31, 2018, 11:51 PM

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shakes fist at Wowhead

sharp bluff Mar 31, 2018, 11:51 PM

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lol I figure early april fools, but if they are reall, that would be funny

rich apex Mar 31, 2018, 11:51 PM

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Threw me off by being early

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Well, we know tattoos are possible at least

rich apex Mar 31, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Alliance lion arm tattoo

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Ugh, I want

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 11:52 PM

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It could be easy to add them

rich apex Mar 31, 2018, 11:52 PM

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I mean

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Who knows how they did it

sharp bluff Mar 31, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Actaully wait

rich apex Mar 31, 2018, 11:52 PM

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But it's them fiddling with their model viewer

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Not the in game models themselves

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Oh

sharp bluff Mar 31, 2018, 11:52 PM

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that post better be real look at all the pepes in it

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 11:52 PM

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I was thinking this was Blizz, not wowhead

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Fml

sharp bluff Mar 31, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Highmountain Pepe T.T

rich apex Mar 31, 2018, 11:53 PM

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I unironically want a Jaina arm tattoo

sharp bluff Mar 31, 2018, 11:53 PM

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wait look at the race selection

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it is fake T.T

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no new race pepes

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Darn they had me for a bit there, those pepes made me think it was legit

rich apex Mar 31, 2018, 11:55 PM

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http://www.wowhead.com/dressing-room#kz0z0zJ8z9Ra7cVMi87sVMf808VMG808VMw808VMh808VMI808E3U87cg

Wowhead

Dressing Room - World of Warcraft

Try out armor sets on any World of Warcraft character. Test different transmog and plan your wardrobe.

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Me tho

sharp bluff Mar 31, 2018, 11:55 PM

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you see the wood skin the put in for boring human race?

uncut vault Mar 31, 2018, 11:55 PM

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Someone in my guild fell for it

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(though wowhead did post it a bit early)

sharp bluff Mar 31, 2018, 11:56 PM

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they did, I'll blame it on that

uncut vault Mar 31, 2018, 11:57 PM

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I fully want those pepes though

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 11:57 PM

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Wood skin was there before

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And is on several racrs

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Races

uncut vault Mar 31, 2018, 11:57 PM

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yeah legionfall has animated wood workers

sharp bluff Mar 31, 2018, 11:58 PM

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huh?

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really?

tulip sun Mar 31, 2018, 11:59 PM

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I am almost done with my horde racial hall thoughts

sharp bluff Mar 31, 2018, 11:59 PM

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go on

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:00 AM

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I will post and link

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I will do alliance later

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Still gotta summarize orcs

uncut vault Apr 1, 2018, 12:04 AM

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Do you mean racial halls like class halls, one for each race?

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cause that's one of the big features i want in WoW, allied races are basically getting them

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 12:10 AM

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Coming to WoW from GW I must say I have wondered about that myself

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:12 AM

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Porter, kinda

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I combined some due to being so many

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But ya

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:12 AM

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I honestly dont want to see it

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I want the halls to be special. not tossed on everything. :<

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 12:13 AM

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not like people would use the halls anyway, since the capitals have all the utilities lol

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:13 AM

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I don't think it would ever happen. But I like brainstorming

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What would a good base for.the orcs be

floral nacelle Apr 1, 2018, 12:14 AM

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I heard stuff about a Stormwind-based raid for 8.1?

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:14 AM

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That's an issue because each clan wants a different place.

floral nacelle Apr 1, 2018, 12:14 AM

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Anyone know something about that?

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:14 AM

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That sounds like nothing more than speculation

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there's nothing going on in stormwind other than breaking out Zul.

floral nacelle Apr 1, 2018, 12:14 AM

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Saw a friend of mine spoil that. It might be an april fools joke

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:14 AM

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Oh yea? What's the screen shot.

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:15 AM

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No...it was datamined ages ago

floral nacelle Apr 1, 2018, 12:15 AM

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It was?

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:15 AM

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Why would it be a joke

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The whole scenario was

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:15 AM

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There's no stormwind raid khamnin

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there's a scenario for breaking out zul

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but no raid.

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:15 AM

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Same thing

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:15 AM

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not the same thing

floral nacelle Apr 1, 2018, 12:15 AM

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Not really

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:15 AM

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at all

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 12:15 AM

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and that scenario is in BFA

floral nacelle Apr 1, 2018, 12:15 AM

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Thing I heard was this

steel venture Apr 1, 2018, 12:15 AM

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very much not even close to being the same thing

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like in the slightest

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at all

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:15 AM

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A raid is not a Scenario. This scenario is solo

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The raid

floral nacelle Apr 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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"Blizzard confirms new BFA raid: Siege of Stormwind - Anduin Wrynn has been held hostage by a Void-maddened Alleria Windrunner. Alliance and Horde both besiege the Alliance Capital for their own agendas. Sylvanas Windrunner and her champion Nathanos Blightcaller command the attack from the sea while Jaina Proudmoore and the 7th Legion begin their assault to reclaim the city from Elwynn Forest. 6 boss raid with a unique boss for each faction. Coming in 8.1"

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This is what I was told.

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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Where was that from Cynical?

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like the source.

floral nacelle Apr 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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I don't know. I am asking them.

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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I don't see that

steel venture Apr 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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dude are you serious
you realize thats a joke right?

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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Because

floral nacelle Apr 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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I'm inclined to believe it's an april fools joke.

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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lemme ask you something

floral nacelle Apr 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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It sounds too good to be true.

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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why wouldn't have wowhead reported it?

steel venture Apr 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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ITS PROBABLY FROM THE BLIZZARD APRIL FOOLS

floral nacelle Apr 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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Very possible.

steel venture Apr 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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JUST. SAYINg.
some people can grab those posts early

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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I mean, despite how cool it sounds

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I doubt it

floral nacelle Apr 1, 2018, 12:17 AM

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I mean.

steel venture Apr 1, 2018, 12:17 AM

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... it doesnt sound cool in the slightest it is literally a reworded Siege of Orgrimmar summary

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:17 AM

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I doubt alleria would fall to the void

floral nacelle Apr 1, 2018, 12:17 AM

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More reason to kill off void elves

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:17 AM

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There's no reason to kill them tho

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Unless you also advocate for the slaughter of warlocks and shadow priests.

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Oh and Sylvanas and Dark Rangers. All those nasty shadow magic users and what not.

steel venture Apr 1, 2018, 12:18 AM

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also if you cant realize it's a SoO parody
attack from the land by jaina? vol'jin attacked from land too
attack by sea by horde this time around? it was mainly alliance forces that attacked by sea

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literally this is
100% the old SoO summary

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flipped around a little

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its a joke.

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:19 AM

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I don't see anything about it

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Aybbe it was your friend trolling you

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Maybe

steel venture Apr 1, 2018, 12:19 AM

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definitely was your friend pulling your leg friendo

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:19 AM

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If blizz made any jokes yet

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We'd see it I think

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:19 AM

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Khamnin it sounds exactly like blizzards writing and it very well may just be a leak of the april fools patch

steel venture Apr 1, 2018, 12:20 AM

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tbh there have been years when some april fools jokes slip too early lmao

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because they either forget to lock the page or slip on posttime.

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 12:20 AM

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it would be funny, but blizz isn't good at putting April fools in game
The best April fools in a game was, imo at least, the one Guild Wars 1 did, where they put a commando in game guns and all

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they do have good posts to fool you though

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:21 AM

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I dont remember that.

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I dont remember any of their april fools patches ever actually going in game

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 12:21 AM

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In guild wars Vris?

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or wow

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:21 AM

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Oh didn't read that correctly.

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 12:21 AM

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lol

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ya

steel venture Apr 1, 2018, 12:21 AM

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ArenaNet has a tendency of making "silly" things but actually leaving them in game.

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Like the Super Adventure Box

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 12:22 AM

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Xan this is the first one though

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:22 AM

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TBH Blizzard does the best parodies because its just their yearly shitpost to the fanbase.

steel venture Apr 1, 2018, 12:22 AM

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Started as an april fools, actually became a canon thing in the GW2 universe

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no ik i'm giving more recent examples

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 12:22 AM

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got you

steel venture Apr 1, 2018, 12:22 AM

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since its a known thing Anet does

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blizz tries to leave the jokes out of in game tho

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that's more just addon developers that troll in game most of the time lmoa

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lmao**

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 12:23 AM

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cow level...

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:23 AM

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I remember a year where they guy who does NPC scan made every rare pop up as 'TLPD'

steel venture Apr 1, 2018, 12:23 AM

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dont forget the hello kitty elvui

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:27 AM

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I think I am done o.O

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Finished up the forsaken

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I was just thinking

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Why in the he'll would the horde go raid stormwind to save anduin from a crazy galleria? -yes, I know this is not real-

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But they could've made it more believeable

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And my texting sucks...

rich apex Apr 1, 2018, 12:30 AM

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Well, if Void Alleria is going to sacrifice Anduin to open the way for the Void Lords

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrmWzXLCYAAo8F5.png

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:30 AM

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Lol

rich apex Apr 1, 2018, 12:32 AM

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'what do you want to work with the alliance/horde to save azeroth from the Legion/the Scourge/the Old Gods?'

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Khadgar: khadgarface

uncut vault Apr 1, 2018, 12:33 AM

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even if there were a sliver of reality in that leak

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it would not come in 8.1

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:34 AM

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Honestly would love if the entire expansion was the bloody faction war.

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I was real damage done

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https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20762136570?page=3#post-51

Racial "Orders" would've been better - World of Warcraft Forums

Than class orders. Every race gets lore. Establishment of new characters for each race. Champions/followers are much more familiar and relatable to your character. Highlights differences in cultures as opposed to the homogenisation we've seen in ...

rich apex Apr 1, 2018, 12:34 AM

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Alas

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:34 AM

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I got lazy on most of them

rich apex Apr 1, 2018, 12:34 AM

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Can't have a winner/loser for a faction war

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:34 AM

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But posted xD, very last post

rich apex Apr 1, 2018, 12:34 AM

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So need N'zoth to pop out of the ground

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:34 AM

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That is true....but I do not know.

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What was it

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Talieson gave a good idea

rich apex Apr 1, 2018, 12:35 AM

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Horde players are already salty as is, and they're not even losing so far 😛

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:35 AM

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For a final raid

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I like everything I have seen so far

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I don't get why people are pissed about what the Horde is doing...

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What did you expect when you signed up for it?

floral nacelle Apr 1, 2018, 12:36 AM

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Confirmed btw. The friend of mine about the SW Raid.

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Was officially fuckery.

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I expected nothing yet I'm still dissapointed.

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:36 AM

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I like this Horde better than a peaceful red alliance

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-pushes to read his paragraphs-

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I don't know why I felt the need to write all that

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-loves brainstorming ideas of what could be :o-

rich apex Apr 1, 2018, 12:47 AM

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I've already gone on the noble savage Horde tangent too many times, so

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But

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The Golden Rule

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https://twitter.com/ChristieGolden/status/974138481818546176

Christie Golden (@ChristieGolden)

Gentle Reminder that you won’t know if you like the Battle for Azeroth Storylines until you have played the entire expansion after it’s officially released! It’s a journey. Don’t get hung up on bits and pieces you run across now that m...

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hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 12:51 AM

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I honestly think racial orders would have taken to long. :v

rich apex Apr 1, 2018, 12:52 AM

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Alas, no perfect gameplay/story system

misty blaze Apr 1, 2018, 1:28 AM

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hopefully ill get a alpha invite everyone on my guild and battletags getting one

uncut vault Apr 1, 2018, 3:16 AM

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bleh, they made the female belf anim weird

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 3:16 AM

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in what context

uncut vault Apr 1, 2018, 3:16 AM

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https://gyazo.com/3b58c05608cbb8ca0b831bf3e4da976e

Gyazo

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https://gyazo.com/c1411019b0f46abbc19e99447d7be1e1

Gyazo

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live vs BfA

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new one is stiffer and jerkier

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theyre homogenizing bow animations

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 3:17 AM

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I mean

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Do you know deadly accurate archers who jerk and jiggle?

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Sway tends to reduce accuracy

uncut vault Apr 1, 2018, 3:18 AM

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the new anim also messed up anim priority between autos and spells, which I very much dont like

meager warren Apr 1, 2018, 4:25 AM

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yeah. gonna have to say i like the new one better

sudden oak Apr 1, 2018, 4:26 AM

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also what kind of party is happening behind the hunter?

steel venture Apr 1, 2018, 4:27 AM

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new demo log

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lock**

uncut vault Apr 1, 2018, 4:29 AM

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heres how the animations look while using spells

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https://gyazo.com/c0242d92c65418a3acf48de7064585db

Gyazo

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meager warren Apr 1, 2018, 4:32 AM

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can you upload a giphy?
it's slow af

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 4:35 AM

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So it holds like its holding a shot

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what's so wrong with it?

heavy cairn Apr 1, 2018, 4:36 AM

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the only issue I have with new anim is that it's clearly glitched

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 4:36 AM

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WHAT?!

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AN ALPHA PRODUCT IS GLITCHED?

meager warren Apr 1, 2018, 4:36 AM

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ur glitched

heavy cairn Apr 1, 2018, 4:36 AM

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I'm not surprised that it's glitched given it's alpha :)

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but I do not see anything wrong with intended features of the animation

meager warren Apr 1, 2018, 4:37 AM

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how is it glitched tho?
i don't see it

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 4:37 AM

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it doesn't properly loop the 'idle' casting animation

heavy cairn Apr 1, 2018, 4:37 AM

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~~for a moment it appears an arrow or at least something pointy is heading towards the top left of the screen. I'm guessing the bow's rotation glitches out for an instant~~

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 4:37 AM

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you can see it chop and start a new loop

meager warren Apr 1, 2018, 4:38 AM

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well, i can't see it because the gif is lagging

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i guess it figures.
my pc is from like, 2009

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 4:38 AM

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I know your pain

heavy cairn Apr 1, 2018, 4:38 AM

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ah, nevermind

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 4:38 AM

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oh to well

heavy cairn Apr 1, 2018, 4:38 AM

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the pointy glitch is to the top right, and it's not the bow

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it's the "arrow"
going the wrong direction (coming out of the stick)

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 4:39 AM

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Oh that's normal OSX

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my worgen has the same issues with arrow placement

heavy cairn Apr 1, 2018, 4:39 AM

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ah, k

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I just didn't notice it in the live animation GIF, is all

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 4:40 AM

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You're not supposed to notice stuff like that.

uncut vault Apr 1, 2018, 4:40 AM

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the loop thing isnt from an idle bug, its from the casting of spells wiht the new animation, but the arrow position was changed to be on the other side of the bow with the new one.

heavy cairn Apr 1, 2018, 4:40 AM

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actually, if I look closely at the live animation, I see the arrow is coming out of the center (glowing arrow that's probably part of the bow model) like it's supposed to

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 4:40 AM

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comes out of my physical bow for my hunter

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not the center where the arrow is supposed to be nocked.

heavy cairn Apr 1, 2018, 4:41 AM

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though the live animation has the other problem of shooting the arrow before the bow is fully pulled back

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hopefully the arrow location is eventually fixed before bfa, else they will have traded one issue for another

uncut vault Apr 1, 2018, 4:42 AM

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its just a part of the new anim afaik, since the new one is the same across all the updated ones theyve added

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 4:40 PM

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Oh look they made a micro holiday for the people in this chat lol, We’re all Elves now

meager warren Apr 1, 2018, 4:43 PM

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http://prntscr.com/izcf5a
this is probably a joke but it's scary af

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rich apex Apr 1, 2018, 4:45 PM

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Royale Battlegrounds are unironically not that bad an idea

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 5:40 PM

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It's a pretty shit idea tbh

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Have you ever tried to fight without -any- abilities against someone who has even 1?

rich apex Apr 1, 2018, 5:41 PM

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I mean logistically it'd be a balance and design nightmare

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But for a literal shitpost

meager warren Apr 1, 2018, 5:44 PM

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keep shitposts on tumblr and reddit, don't let them spread to wow

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 5:46 PM

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Theyve been in WoW tho

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since vanilla

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This is tradition at this point

rich apex Apr 1, 2018, 5:48 PM

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J O H N J E K E E S H A N

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And this is a Blizz made shitpost

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So

carmine junco Apr 1, 2018, 5:51 PM

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also, poop quests. Literal shitposts.

rich apex Apr 1, 2018, 5:52 PM

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ayyy

ruby star Apr 1, 2018, 6:14 PM

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I hope Warfronts or Voldun comes out into Alpha next week so I get anothor chance for alpha invite xD

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 7:16 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvEtgKl-snQ&t P00F!!!!1111

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Mmrrggll

Zandalari Trolls CONFIRMED Paladins! 3 New Allied Races on the way!

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meager warren Apr 1, 2018, 7:19 PM

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is that legit? i can't tell what they're saying since the vid doesn't have captions

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 7:20 PM

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110% legit

tulip sun Apr 1, 2018, 7:22 PM

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-looks at the date-

meager warren Apr 1, 2018, 7:23 PM

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goddamnit

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https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/980437124670423040

World of Warcraft (@Warcraft)

This mount is for the birds! 🐔

Introducing King Cluckcluck, one of the new realistic mounts coming in #BattleForAzeroth. https://t.co/RwtAukMvxn

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http://prntscr.com/izeli0
this one's good. if only this part was legit

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@hollow dock do you know what building they're talking about in this

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hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 7:46 PM

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Uh no. Only thing I can think of is the gates that were under construction.

meager warren Apr 1, 2018, 7:58 PM

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neat

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 8:49 PM

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you know after doing the Uuna quest line something has been bugging me, as a Death Knight we can cross between our plane and the shadowlands, but we can't effect the shadow things inside it, did they just generalize the quest or did we lose that ability?

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 8:50 PM

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Well we can't affect those specific beings. As deathknights we're not complete masters of the Shadowlands, just the dead.

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And those things may not be dead, thus why we can't affect them.

rich apex Apr 1, 2018, 8:51 PM

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Quests are rarely made with special exceptions for classes/races 😛

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 8:51 PM

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I know, but still seemed a bit off lol

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still I must say, that is a great storyline

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 8:52 PM

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It is! and seeing the Dark Forest for the first time since its first reference in Cata was great!

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 8:53 PM

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I agree

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 8:53 PM

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I also find it funny that we Deathknights are someones Light

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 8:53 PM

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I hope they add some more quests like this in BFA

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ya lol, imagine my reaction as a forsaken DK, I was confused as heck

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 8:54 PM

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My deathknight had been reminded what that felt like. She now protects Uuna like her own.

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 8:54 PM

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I am doing the same thing XD

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only pet I have out now

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I find the fact it sends us to WoD twice funny since we have no portals there anymore, but that last chat, I won't let her go now

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 8:56 PM

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uh

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Who said we dont have portals there?

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 8:57 PM

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I thought the portals were closed, some of the Dreanor Orcs jokes imply we abandoned our outposts post WoD

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 8:57 PM

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Because the joke is that no one goes back there anymore.

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Mages can still go there. :v they didn't lose that ability. Nor did we lose our hearthstones.

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 8:58 PM

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I just think hearthstones are magic at this point (lol)

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 8:58 PM

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They are?

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it's literal rune magic

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 8:58 PM

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I know joking lol

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 8:59 PM

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I don't understand

sharp bluff Apr 1, 2018, 9:00 PM

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Sorta like how argus is closed after the Throne thing, but it can take us there, once it is bound nothing can stop it except binding it somewhere else, joking that nothing is more powerful then a hearthstone

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 9:03 PM

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Like yes the physical way is gone. But we can still get there via portals.

plain vigil Apr 1, 2018, 11:33 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/409839470779564032/430140971477630996/image.jpg

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Hmmmmmmmmm

rich apex Apr 1, 2018, 11:34 PM

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khadgarface

plain vigil Apr 1, 2018, 11:34 PM

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hmmmmmmmmm

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hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

rich apex Apr 1, 2018, 11:34 PM

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Saurfang had to join the only honorable faction

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 11:34 PM

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Kinda makes me wonder why Wowhead wouldn't report on their own datamining

rich apex Apr 1, 2018, 11:34 PM

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^

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 11:35 PM

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can't gerbait me on april fools day

plain vigil Apr 1, 2018, 11:35 PM

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I’ve fooled a few people

rich apex Apr 1, 2018, 11:36 PM

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Wowhead got me for five seconds with the tattoos by posting a day early

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And mocking my wishful thinking

hollow dock Apr 1, 2018, 11:38 PM

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I mean. the tats were sprays from HOTS

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that was a dead giveaway for me

strange falcon Apr 1, 2018, 11:39 PM

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the ret pally sprays were funny

meager warren Apr 2, 2018, 4:17 AM

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most underwhelming warcraft reference ever

rich apex Apr 2, 2018, 4:18 AM

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family guy makes ever other poor taste joke

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doesn't have cleaveland talk about chicken

tulip sun Apr 2, 2018, 4:33 AM

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It was something at least

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 7:27 AM

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a lot of people don't even know what the joke is from at this point

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leeroy jenkins has been in everything, so many people don't know its source

hasty elbow Apr 2, 2018, 11:09 AM

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anyone know the location of this NPC? I can't seems to find her anywhere in Kul Tiras.

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http://bfa.wowhead.com/npc=135600/emma-haribull

Wowhead

Emma Haribull

The location of this NPC is unknown. In the NPCs category. Added in World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth. Always up to date with the latest patch.

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but there are screenshots indicate that she's located indoor somewhere in Kul Tiras.....

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 11:22 AM

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I rather liked it. It was short, simple and faithful.

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It looks like she only phases in after completeing a quest Villain

hasty elbow Apr 2, 2018, 11:43 AM

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ok thanks Vris

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I just found her in Stormsong Valley after doing quests to phased the adds off

tulip torrent Apr 2, 2018, 1:56 PM

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Vris did you get alpha access?

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 2:03 PM

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Nope

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 2:08 PM

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Its sad I know 6 people who have alpha none of them have played it since the day they downloaded it.

frigid umbra Apr 2, 2018, 2:10 PM

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Do those have active subs?... maybe i can get alpha without reactivating sub. Done with legion till bfa prepatch

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 2:11 PM

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I know at least 4 of them are active-ish

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the other 2 get on like once every two weeks.

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 2:11 PM

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@frigid umbra well you're not done with legion unless you've done all your magetowers

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just saying

frigid umbra Apr 2, 2018, 2:11 PM

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F that

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 2:11 PM

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think about what you could do before you say you're done

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 2:11 PM

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Not a fan of many of the mage tower weapons tbh

frigid umbra Apr 2, 2018, 2:11 PM

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Same...

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 2:11 PM

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well,you do you,but if you say that,then dont come here complaining that you didnt get the magetower skin in a few months

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 2:12 PM

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The shattared ashbringer as well as the two prot weapons for warrior and paladin are about all I had interest in getting.

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Love me some flials

frigid umbra Apr 2, 2018, 2:12 PM

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Trust me i wont... i actually dislike the shattered ashbringer. I like the hidden corrupt one that i already have better

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 2:13 PM

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Like I could probably go do it on my sub/ass rogue.. But its like neither of them are like that AMAZING.

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 2:13 PM

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you can do whatever you want with your time,as long as you dont come back here being hypocritical for something you intentionally didnt do

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like many of these toxic forumgoers

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 2:13 PM

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Even with Tmog, the only weapons I dont change is my warriors weapons paladins prot and ret weapon.

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Fist weapons are ugly

frigid umbra Apr 2, 2018, 2:13 PM

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Yeah... not really that type of persone

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 2:14 PM

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No real good ones its why I have the tmog weapons hidden.

frigid umbra Apr 2, 2018, 2:14 PM

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Especially for cosmetic items

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 2:14 PM

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andellus,i did the assas one recently,it's quite easy,and the blade is quite nice,the pics dont show you that it changes forms every like 4 sec

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between 5 different bladeshapes

finite wagon Apr 2, 2018, 2:14 PM

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tfw the only mage tower appearance you actually like is the outlaw rogue one... :(

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 2:14 PM

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outlaw rogue is very easy too

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just put that bladefurry on

finite wagon Apr 2, 2018, 2:15 PM

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outlaw rogue would probably be way easier for me if i didnt suck ass as rogue xD

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 2:15 PM

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And no need to be hostile Dafire everyone is intitled to how they feel XD. Eh, I have seen it. My friend showed me them I just didn't like any of them. I prefer the daggers I've been using since Tmog became a thing.

frigid umbra Apr 2, 2018, 2:15 PM

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Legion kinda killed rogue combat for me... since vanilla was my main

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I hate outlaw

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But i guess thats just ne

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 2:15 PM

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i'm not being hostile,i'm just warning him,because some people are that selfentitled to not get something and then complain they didnt get it

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 2:16 PM

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Im not into outlaw myself either. I never even got the weapons.

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 2:16 PM

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also remember that outlaw is the only rapier tmog in the game

frigid umbra Apr 2, 2018, 2:16 PM

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Roll the bones is the worst spell in the game... in theory its good in practice its sucks

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 2:16 PM

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alexxcri,i used slice and dice instead of roll the bones for the challenge

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much more reliable

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 2:16 PM

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Yeah I think BFA will change that...

finite wagon Apr 2, 2018, 2:17 PM

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i hope sincerely roll the bones gets changed, it really sucks when your entire spec hinges on rng

frigid umbra Apr 2, 2018, 2:18 PM

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From what ive seen in the patch notes... its not really changing

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 2:18 PM

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Assassin for PVE and Sub for PVP thats the way I do it.

frigid umbra Apr 2, 2018, 2:18 PM

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No alpha... so cant really test

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Yup... thats true.

finite wagon Apr 2, 2018, 2:19 PM

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i just really like the whole pirate aestethic, so outlaw was a clear choice to me :P

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 2:19 PM

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For some reason the bleeds in PVP as Assassin is shit unless you are being pocket healed or literally burn every single CD just to kill someone.

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Arena 2v2's it can be pretty neat tho

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 2:19 PM

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also andellus,assas is getting an aoe bleed combopoint spender

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so you dont have to just rupture each one

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you fan of knives to 5-6 then use that

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 2:20 PM

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You mean like crimson temptest or something?

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 2:20 PM

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on the alpha that is

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ye

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 2:20 PM

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Lol XD

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Removed something just to add it back basically an xpac later.

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 2:20 PM

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thats blizzard for ya

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 2:22 PM

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I just wanna play around with monk a bit. As I've heard nothing but good things about it.

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in alpha

stray anchor Apr 2, 2018, 2:37 PM

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I wonder if they'll put more love into outlaw this time around, specially being the most nautical themed xpac so far

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Id hate for my mage tower rapiers to go to waste

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 2:48 PM

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Well grappling hook is becoming baseline. But Outlaw's issue is it still needs to be the quintessential rogue. So it'll always be some 'flare' of pirate.

jovial coral Apr 2, 2018, 3:07 PM

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Any mogu in the alpha yet

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 3:23 PM

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yes at the island expeditions

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Why?

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 3:26 PM

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mogu show up in the zuldazar storyline

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they play a fairly important role

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 3:27 PM

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Please tell me these Mogu are racist towards the trolls like they should be

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 3:27 PM

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I don't know exactly what you are getting at, but the mogu are not very happy that they do not have the grand empire they were promised

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so yes, they are attacking the zandalari

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 3:28 PM

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Oh thank god.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 3:31 PM

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that alone does not make them important, it's how they interact with a certain very suspicious character

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 3:31 PM

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Why bother with the spoiler filter?

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this is the spoiler chat.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 3:31 PM

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good point lol

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mogu help zul attempt to kill king rastakhan so that zul can revive dazar, first king of zandalar in deep within atal'dazar because that's how they get their promised grand empire

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 3:33 PM

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I see.

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That honestly sounds like a side quest

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 3:34 PM

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well the mogu's involvement are how it is revealed zul is a traitor

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which is the start of the second half of zuldazar

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 3:34 PM

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That doesn't change that it sounds like a side quest.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 3:35 PM

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they are kind of a side thing in the grand scope of things, I see what you are saying.

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 3:35 PM

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yea.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 3:35 PM

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I suppose the importance isn't in the mogu themselves

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but that zul would ally with people who killed half the harbor's worth of zandalari

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yea, mogu are a side thing, zul has many more allies

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now that I think of it, half of zuldazar feels like side quests

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maybe that's the point--zul trying to distract you from what he's truly doing

ruby star Apr 2, 2018, 4:20 PM

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hopefully a new build will be out Tuesday/Wednesday 😄 Hopefully it will release Voldun and Warfronts

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:22 PM

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you can assured we're ready to release the hounds when vol'dun opens

ruby star Apr 2, 2018, 4:23 PM

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Hopefully I'll get alpha access! 😄 (But knowing my luck probably not lol) but Yeah Voldun looks pretty cool!

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:23 PM

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my friend got alpha,so he lets me play it when he's out <.<

ruby star Apr 2, 2018, 4:24 PM

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That's great!

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hopefully a big wave of alpha invites will go out once Warfronts/Voldun hit

zinc sandal Apr 2, 2018, 4:35 PM

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I want alpha

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I wanna test the class changes

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 4:37 PM

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I vehemetly dont want it.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:41 PM

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I was pretty sad when alliance got stormsong valley but no voldun for horde

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well it's not live, they don't have to give any craps about faction balance

ruby star Apr 2, 2018, 4:41 PM

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I've heard a lot of bad things about Alliance Kul'tiras zones quests, but the zones themselves looks ❤

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:42 PM

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I haven't tried alliance questing out

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and I honestly don't feel like it

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if I want to do it I will wait for live

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I probably won't be questing through zandalar for a second time until live, either

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unless they do a character wipe

ruby star Apr 2, 2018, 4:43 PM

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From what I've seen the horde are being favoured more (Can't give my own thoughts as I haven't played Alpha)

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:43 PM

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it's too early to say anything

ruby star Apr 2, 2018, 4:43 PM

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^

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Thats what I thought

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It;s Alpha

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:43 PM

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zuldazar is clearly unfinished

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next to no vegation on the huge mountains

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 4:43 PM

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Horde are the favorites. It's why they're being plastered as savage barbarians that brutally pin people to poles and let the children watch. =^)

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:43 PM

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the mountains are like (0, 0, 255) color basically, not too much texture yet

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I'm fairly certain it's unfinished :)

ruby star Apr 2, 2018, 4:44 PM

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yea

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Vris ahah xD

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:44 PM

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i havent even logged into the alpha yet,but from what i've heard,kul'tiras is more about zone flow,and they more or less have a continued story,while zandalar is legion style,where all zones have their own story,but it always ends with the overarching theme of the continent

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:45 PM

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that's an interesting thing to hear, but from what I could see they both are about the same "flow"

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ofc I haven't done kul tiras yet

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:45 PM

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well,as i wrote,i havent even logged yet

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trying to squeeze a last magetower while it's still up

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:45 PM

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kul tiras seems like it's the same sort of ideas as zandalar

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 4:46 PM

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How Dafire is describing it is like. Highmountain and then transitioning into Stormhiem whereas Kul'tiras would feel like Teldrassil into Darkshore

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:46 PM

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drustvar witches probably tie into azshara's plan
or at least something in there

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 4:46 PM

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I hope the Drustvar are completely seperate to the old gods

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Hubris of the Kul'tirans and all that

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:48 PM

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i think drustvar is its own story,stormsong seems to be related to old gods

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:48 PM

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zandalar stories:

zuldazar, things are going on in the city and zul betrays everyone, working to destroy zuldazar.
nazmir, things are going on in the swamp and old god g'huun is behind it, working to destroy zuldazar.
voldun, unknown.

kul tiras stories:

tiragarde sound, things are going on in the city and lady ashvane betrays everyone, working to destroy boralus.
drustvar, I'd wager the witches want to destroy boralus.
stormsong valley, old god corruption, horde attacking, I'd wager they want to destroy boralus.

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:49 PM

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from what we know,vol'dun is about the SPOILERS

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farraki

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and sethrak emperor

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 4:49 PM

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Why

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are there

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spoiler filters

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in the spoiler chat

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:49 PM

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I'm not using spoiler filters anymore

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:49 PM

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sorry to have triggered you vris

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i was saying,it's about the farraki trolls and the sethrak emperor,forging a shaky alliance to make the entire zone become a desert

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:50 PM

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but "things going on" are all I can really say because I mean there's tons of stuff happening, can't explain it all in one sentence

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 4:50 PM

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That's good to know the Farakki only abandoned Zul'farrak and not been wiped out

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:50 PM

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as horde you help the vulpera out of slavery,and kill a good bunch of sneks,there's also a """friendly"""" faction of sneks that oppose the emperor

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:50 PM

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interesting

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so I'd wager the emperor wants to destroy zuldazar

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:51 PM

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by friendly i mean,we dont know if it's alliance or horde friendly

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but they DO oppose the emperor

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which is hostile to both factions

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well all we know is that the sethrak emperor forged a pact with the farraki

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and talks about a key

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 4:51 PM

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Those are the ones the alliance interact with at Kul'tiras last I ever heard

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:51 PM

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that has been ready for thousands of year

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 4:51 PM

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like how the Horde interact with the Vulpera

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:52 PM

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there are no sethrak on kultiras vris

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but i can tell you

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that from using far sight

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we know that many "sethrak looking camps"

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are very very close to a bunch of alliance flightpaths

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in voldun

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:52 PM

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if I had to guess, alliance are doing stuff in voldun, just like horde is attacking stormsong valley

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lol tho

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alliance in voldun, silly.

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voldun is where criminals go, not actual people the horde / zandalari care about

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:53 PM

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well,the vulpera have a very strong trading bond with the zandalari

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you can see vulpera vendors

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in the zandalar city

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atal'dalor? i forgot the name

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:54 PM

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oh

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dazar'alor

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the main section of which is "the great seal"

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:55 PM

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yea,we speculate that voldun was a big foresty zone with many troll structures like the other places

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but it's been drowned into sand by the sethrak and farraki

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proof of this can be found in the troll ruins in the zone

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:55 PM

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drowned into sand?

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what?

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:55 PM

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whatever

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:55 PM

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I see what you are saying

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:55 PM

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i've been doing magetowers for 4 hours

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i'm not exactly at top capacity

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:56 PM

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so let me add a bit of spoilers to polish that speculation

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there are 3 temples around zandalar, two are destroyed one is intact

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dazar'alor is the only intact one

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:56 PM

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yes,one is in voldun

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:56 PM

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whoever destroyed the one in voldun did a better job than the one in nazmir (voldun one is cracked in half, nazmir is still intact, just vines all over)

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:57 PM

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we speculate that during the 120 plot of zandalar,zul breaks the dazar'alor seal

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and that's why we go into uldir

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 4:57 PM

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my guess is it's some pretty powerful thing that killed all the life and made it a desert as a side effect of destroying the temple

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the 120 plot will likely be fully available for testing once voldun is

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the achievements are in for it, at least

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"the blood gate" questline, which is part of the storyline leading up to the final one, is available after completing nazmir and zuldazar. so it would make sense for the "zandalar forever" scenario to be available after 3/3 zones complete so that the meta-achievement "zandalar forever" which is the zandalar loremaster can be obtained

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:58 PM

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well we know from circumstantial evidence,that the snake loa killed herself(sethraliss) so that they could live in peace,but that just made the 2 factions split up,much like what happened to nightborne and nightfallen

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 4:59 PM

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wait.

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How is that in any way similar to the NIghtborne?

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 4:59 PM

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i mean

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that they got separated

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because of some big happening

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not because their stories are identical

jade basalt Apr 2, 2018, 4:59 PM

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What

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:00 PM

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well if it makes sense for you.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:00 PM

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with snake people, the loa dying causes them to separate.
with nightborne/nightfallen, the shield dropping causes them to separate

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obviously not exactly the same but it's a valid point of comparison

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a major event causing separation of two formerly unified factions

jade basalt Apr 2, 2018, 5:00 PM

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No, because they were separated before the shield was brought down. And that's a poor comparison anyway, literally every race in the lore has at one point "been separated".

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:01 PM

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they were separated for a few days before the shield was brought down, indeed.

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:01 PM

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yea. The Nightfallen have existed pre-decision to drop the shield.

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Nightfallen just being exiled NIghtborne

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:01 PM

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most exiled nightborne withered

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nightfallen had to have been very recently exiled

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:02 PM

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Not entirely? They just have a leader now.

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 5:02 PM

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The Highmountain were separated by a sea,
Pandas were separated by a turtle
😛

jade basalt Apr 2, 2018, 5:02 PM

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No. Nightfallen/Withered have existed for years.

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https://wow.gamepedia.com/Quest:An_Old_Ally

Wowpedia

Quest:An Old Ally

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 5:03 PM

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Withered hunter pet when?

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:03 PM

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you're just proving my point

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keldanath withered

jade basalt Apr 2, 2018, 5:03 PM

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No, I'm disproving your point.

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:03 PM

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they eventually wither yes

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but that doesn't stop them from having been Nightfallen

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that's the point we're making

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:03 PM

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oh, you're talking about the status, lol

jade basalt Apr 2, 2018, 5:03 PM

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they were separated for a few days before the shield was brought down, indeed.

I have provided proof that no, they have been for years. The Nightborne have always exiled their own out of the shield as punishment.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:03 PM

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I was talking about the faction who was rebelling against elisande

jade basalt Apr 2, 2018, 5:04 PM

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Except you said they were separated for a few days before the shield was brought down, indeed.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:04 PM

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the people who were exiled a long time before the shield was brought down did not survive long enough to join the faction

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yes, the faction was indeed only separated for a few days lol

jade basalt Apr 2, 2018, 5:04 PM

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The Nightfallen faction was created after the shield was brought down.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:04 PM

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under that name specifically, true

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:04 PM

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The militant faction we make yes.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:05 PM

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but the ideals of the faction began when some of the people in suramar city were not happy about the decision to bring down the shield and ally with the legion

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i.e. a few days before the decision

jade basalt Apr 2, 2018, 5:05 PM

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What happened is that none of what you said is correct (or much sensical), so you tried the classical card "oh no I didn't meant these Nighfallen, I meant these Nightfallen", except that doesn't work either, so now it's "ah yeah.. but still actually I meant something slightly different" which doesn't make much sense either unfortunately.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:06 PM

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except nope, I meant the faction from the beginning

jade basalt Apr 2, 2018, 5:06 PM

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The faction does not work either.

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:06 PM

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You never specified the faction

jade basalt Apr 2, 2018, 5:06 PM

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And ^

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:06 PM

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you are correct that I adjusted it to be the ideals of the faction

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but the people who eventually make up the faction, and who have the ideals of the faction at the time I specified, seem sufficient to not be "adjusting to be correct"

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:07 PM

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You just said those that came before the faction didn't join.

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or didn't survive to join.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:07 PM

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far before

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i.e. more than a few days

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they withered

jade basalt Apr 2, 2018, 5:07 PM

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Also you clearly were not talking about "the Nightfallen faction" since your first example was Kel'danath, who was not part of that faction, just another Nightfallen (the race), so you are really just trying to do all you can do to not lose the argument.

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:07 PM

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Withering does not happen that quickly

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:08 PM

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my first example was kel'danath, what? that was you trying to prove a counterpoint to an argument I wasn't making.

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:09 PM

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Kel'danath was exiled years before this, IIRC, not days though.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:10 PM

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OK? he did not share the ideals of the faction

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and he never became part of the formal faction

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:10 PM

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But he was still Nightfallen

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:10 PM

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Nightfallen, the status, not the faction

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and I was talking about the faction

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thalyssra had the ideals of the faction before officially forming it

jade basalt Apr 2, 2018, 5:11 PM

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You told me

you're just proving my point keldanath withered

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:11 PM

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You had never indicated it until you were wrong about the conversation :v

jade basalt Apr 2, 2018, 5:11 PM

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So you were talking about withered as a race, using Kel'danath to "prove [my] point"

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Not any faction.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:12 PM

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good point

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however, I was only bringing that up because withering is basically the same as dying

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I could say, "he died, so he couldn't join the faction / share its ideals"

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but instead, "he withered, so he couldn't join the faction / share its ideals"

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thalyssra, she disagreed immediately and then was thrown off the palace soon before the barrier fell. then formed the faction exactly because of her ideals.
oculeth, he didn't like what was happening so he went to his old workshop. then joined the faction exactly because of his ideals
valtrois, same idea.

jade basalt Apr 2, 2018, 5:13 PM

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None of what you said has been correct. Instead of just saying "oh right" you have been trying hard to get the last word but then you're wrong again. And even if what you said had been correct, the conclusion you have been trying to reach would not make much sense either.

Also the catalyst for the rebellion (or "separation" as you put it) wasn't the shield being brought down but Elisande siding with the Legion and giving them the Nightwell. The shield was just one of the many consequences of that.

And now I'm off.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:14 PM

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the shield was indeed the impetus for the rebellion

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it was the sign that they were really going through with the deal with the legion

jade basalt Apr 2, 2018, 5:15 PM

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Nah.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:15 PM

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bringing down the shield immediately gave the legion the ability to take the nightwell. it's basically equal to signing the contract.

jade basalt Apr 2, 2018, 5:15 PM

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Thalysra rebelled before Elisande even brought the shield down. 😉

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:15 PM

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it was after Thaly was kicked out that the shield dropped

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:15 PM

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yes, because she shared the ideals for the faction. the ideals were spreading but they were inactive because the shield had not dropped yet

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:15 PM

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as seen in the cinematic

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:16 PM

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thalyssra may have rebelled but no one else did

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it does not speak for the whole eventual nightfallen faction

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:16 PM

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Thalyssra had supporters that rebelled with her what

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:16 PM

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this is a petty argument, lol

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we had just been discussing a parallel between sethrak and nightborne

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and we don't see the parallel because we can't agree on the exact points in the timeline of suramar?

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:17 PM

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Which I dont see because the sitautions are different except 'They seperated'

jade basalt Apr 2, 2018, 5:18 PM

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There's not a great parallel to be made, but the argument was not about said parallel but about you clinging on the idea that you're right, or rather changing argument everytime your previous one is proved wrong or incorrect.

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:18 PM

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and I was content on letting you just think it

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:18 PM

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they separated due to an impetus after some conflict was brewing

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:18 PM

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but then y'all started arguing so I just hopped in and rode the wave.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:18 PM

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I'm assuming some sethrak had different opinions on what their loa wanted

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and since the loa dies, the loa isn't there to guide them on the correct path

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it's a major impetus that allows two factions to do X and Y

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:18 PM

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They were 'seperate' before this though. Two factions. The loa kills herself to QUELL it.

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the sitautions are 100% different except the physical seperation.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:19 PM

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fine, whatever. I don't really believe in patterns that define the zones between separate expansions anyway, but I thought I may have seen a valid point to be made.

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I guess not.

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 5:20 PM

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I dont either. But for the time being, I just hadn'tseen the similarities. If you had then great. Ig uess. but then Quiet steps in and arguments ensue that no one wants to really stop.

heavy cairn Apr 2, 2018, 5:21 PM

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I can't really concretely define what I saw, so it's probably not meaningful

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 7:58 PM

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Thalyssra had people with her she even says "we failed" they were cast out

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Like did you do suramar? I'm reading over your stuff and just so much wrong

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 8:01 PM

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Lets not necro an argument

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 8:09 PM

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Instead let us change the subject, so I noticed a trend with the new races, Moose riding moose, potentially foxes riding foxes, so does that mean potentially snakes riding snakes? thoughts?

rich apex Apr 2, 2018, 8:10 PM

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Fox mount is already in game

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So you can be a fox hunter riding a fox mount with a fox pet and a fox minipet

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 8:10 PM

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ohh that would be fun

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fox-ception

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 8:20 PM

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But

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Vulpera ride Hyenas I thought

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Like. Highmountain is really just a fluke of moose riding moose.

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 8:27 PM

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all I know is that they ride Vultures in all honesty Vris

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didn't read about their ground mount yet

tulip torrent Apr 2, 2018, 8:32 PM

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or draenei raiding a talbuk

uncut vault Apr 2, 2018, 8:32 PM

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They do ride hyenas

sudden oak Apr 2, 2018, 8:36 PM

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and the sethrak have as mount that weird thing with the same model as the sand queen

uncut vault Apr 2, 2018, 8:38 PM

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Krolusks

meager warren Apr 2, 2018, 8:52 PM

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we have goats riding goats, humans riding humans (;), orcs riding gronnlings (Other races can ride the gronnling sure, but it came out in WoD which is mostly orc-focused), corpses riding corpses (Death Knights and their class-mounts and forsaken + their racial mounts), Demons riding Demons (DH + their class hall mounts), so why not moose riding moose and fox riding fox and snek riding snek

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 9:02 PM

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orcs ride wolves tho

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They dont ride gronnlings as their mounts. We can tame some as mounts, but generally its still wolves.

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and the goats generally ride elephants.

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and the Krolusk is a trilobite. not a snake. This theory makes no sense

meager warren Apr 2, 2018, 9:28 PM

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orcs also ride gronnlings tho

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and you got me on the other ones

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 9:29 PM

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Only ever seen em use gronnlings as war platforms

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and not mounts

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even as iron horde they use em for 'tanks' essentially. They themselves dont ride em

meager warren Apr 2, 2018, 9:32 PM

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the fact that we can tame them as mounts implies that orcs can use them as mounts

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 9:37 PM

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Wha...no it doesn't

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it just -shows- they can be tamed as mounts

meager warren Apr 2, 2018, 9:38 PM

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did you figure that out all by yourself?

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i just said that

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 9:38 PM

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You imply the orcs use them

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I say -anyone can-

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 9:39 PM

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I feel like this argument is going in circles

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with you both saying the same tihng

meager warren Apr 2, 2018, 9:39 PM

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^

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 9:39 PM

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the differences in what we've said is that you're using the mounts existance as a proof that Orcs use em. Despite orcs never actually showing that they use them.

meager warren Apr 2, 2018, 9:40 PM

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we are saying the same thing

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 9:40 PM

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and instead use clefthoof or wolves.

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Im saying the orcs in Draenor dont use them as mounts. You say they do

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How is that the same thing?

meager warren Apr 2, 2018, 9:40 PM

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i said they can

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 9:40 PM

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[5:28 PM] EdgyTroll: orcs also ride gronnlings tho

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that' snot an implication

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 9:41 PM

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anyway, don't feel like scrolling up, what's with the WoD era argument?

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 9:41 PM

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Orcs riding Gronnling.

meager warren Apr 2, 2018, 9:41 PM

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alright, well i meant they can

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not that they do

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 9:50 PM

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Hehe snot

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So Edgy I’m confused about the humans riding humans part lol

true matrix Apr 2, 2018, 10:00 PM

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the manotaur?

meager warren Apr 2, 2018, 10:00 PM

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it's an innuendo

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 10:00 PM

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Ahh

meager warren Apr 2, 2018, 10:00 PM

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murloc

true matrix Apr 2, 2018, 10:00 PM

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https://www.stayathomegamers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/WoWScrnShot_011711_202456.jpg

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 10:01 PM

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...

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I don’t know how to respond to this

meager warren Apr 2, 2018, 10:02 PM

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http://prntscr.com/izypei

Lightshot

Screenshot

Captured with Lightshot

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wet owl

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new mount confirmed. 100% legit

rich apex Apr 2, 2018, 10:10 PM

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Mysterious Whisper whispers: Her blood is making him stronger. Yours will, too.

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🤔 🤔 🤔

terse patrol Apr 2, 2018, 10:13 PM

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Ye, I think the player character is gunna get sacrificed to N’zoth in a plot. @rich apex

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Which results in our entrance to the Shadowlands

rich apex Apr 2, 2018, 10:14 PM

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That

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would be pretty cool

meager warren Apr 2, 2018, 10:29 PM

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how would we get out of the shadowlands then?
Is N'zoth just gonna let us go because of the goodness in its heart?

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 10:30 PM

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Lich King saves us?

meager warren Apr 2, 2018, 10:31 PM

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i feel like N'zoth would be way more powerful than the Lich King

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 10:37 PM

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more then likely, but our current lich king is probably more powerful then the last one

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Since the DK campaign basically gave him 4 horsemen under his direct control

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and he has been... busy... for the last few years reviewing the memories of Arthas

gusty scaffold Apr 2, 2018, 10:40 PM

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Her as in Elune. Us as in us fighting. nothing to it 😛 question is. who is he

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 10:40 PM

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we get out of the shadowlands THE EXACT SAME WAY WE ALWAYS DO

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resurrection

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it's apparent we're the only ones capable of doing it

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 10:44 PM

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and Uuna sorta lol

rich apex Apr 2, 2018, 10:45 PM

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Azeroth and Magni save us or some bullshit

terse patrol Apr 2, 2018, 11:04 PM

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maybe whats her face, the leader of the Val'kyr. @hollow dock

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The holy ones.

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 11:05 PM

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Doubt it

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she hates us

rich apex Apr 2, 2018, 11:05 PM

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She's a terrible judge of character

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'sigryun don't search for justice for the murder of your innocent family'

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'why not tell me who did it'

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 11:06 PM

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No she did judge Sylvanas and Genn right

rich apex Apr 2, 2018, 11:06 PM

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'awkward, but, it was odyn'

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Okay, that is fair

uncut vault Apr 2, 2018, 11:06 PM

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Eyir likes us personally

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 11:06 PM

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Eyir shows personal disdain for us when we approach.

uncut vault Apr 2, 2018, 11:06 PM

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In 7.2 she’s quite fine with us

rich apex Apr 2, 2018, 11:06 PM

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I'd hope she cut us some slack after taking care of all of Odyn's shit

terse patrol Apr 2, 2018, 11:07 PM

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Well, she'd probably like the Alliance. 😍

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We saved her.

uncut vault Apr 2, 2018, 11:07 PM

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And alliance got a generic “murrr them mortals r bad” line in HoV

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 11:07 PM

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By breaking one of her relics.

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Both factions get that line dont they?

uncut vault Apr 2, 2018, 11:07 PM

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Yeah hence generic

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 11:07 PM

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She observed both sides and seen that both sides are pretty shitty

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that's pretty accurate all things considered

terse patrol Apr 2, 2018, 11:08 PM

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@hollow dock That artifact isn't Eyir's.

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That's Helya's.

uncut vault Apr 2, 2018, 11:08 PM

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But she likes the hero past Stormheim and the dungeon, blesses us as an honorary Valkyr and trusts us to help Sigryn

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 11:18 PM

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so is there any speculation on what rep we need to grind for the Dark Iron?

rich apex Apr 2, 2018, 11:19 PM

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Nope

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Well there's probably speculation but nothing supported by what's actually in the alpha

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 11:19 PM

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very likely

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since its a BFA race

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it'll be a BFA faction

rich apex Apr 2, 2018, 11:21 PM

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Give it another month or two for Blizz to update alpha with the rest of the actual launch content 😛

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 11:24 PM

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hmm darn, was hoping to prepare a bit ahead

rich apex Apr 2, 2018, 11:25 PM

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It's 99% going to be a requirement related to BFA content

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Imagine the salt

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If you had to get exalted with Thorium Brotherhood

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 11:26 PM

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i just went in the alpha,and vulpera are awfully tiny,they seem like gnomesized

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were gnomes always this disappointingly tiny

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wat

rich apex Apr 2, 2018, 11:26 PM

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Yes

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 11:26 PM

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my imp is almost as big as them

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 11:28 PM

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oh boy, there is an enemy orc that rides gronnlings Vris

icy arrow Apr 2, 2018, 11:29 PM

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Is there any data about the Kul tiran Druid forms ?

rich apex Apr 2, 2018, 11:34 PM

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Just the bear form

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 11:37 PM

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So just to check is the alliance getting kultiras as allied race?

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 11:38 PM

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yes

tropic trail Apr 2, 2018, 11:38 PM

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Kool just checking!

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I wanna be a fat rogue

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 11:45 PM

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where @sharp bluff I have yet to encounter one anywhere in Gorgrond or Tanaan jungle.

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 11:45 PM

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Frostfire Ridge

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one second

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http://www.wowhead.com/npc=86595/gronnling-rider

Wowhead

Gronnling Rider

Gronnling Rider is a level 91 NPC. This NPC can be found in Frostfire Ridge. This NPC is the objective of They Rely on Numbers. In the NPCs category.

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you wont see them as Alliance

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part of horde questline in frostfire ridge

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 11:47 PM

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so if I head there right now on my alliance toon I wont see them

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 11:47 PM

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you should see them, but you have no story reason to go there

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 11:47 PM

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So?

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 11:47 PM

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so they are there

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 11:47 PM

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Right. But what does story have to do with me going to Frostfire

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 11:47 PM

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just you probably did not go there before, so you did not see them

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 11:48 PM

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Ive gone a lot to Frostfire

sharp bluff Apr 2, 2018, 11:48 PM

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story in frostfire for alliance?

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 11:48 PM

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I hunted the rare pig for its mount and did CMs for the Slave Mines

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slag mines rather

terse patrol Apr 2, 2018, 11:51 PM

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gronnlings are ripe for alliance slavery

rich apex Apr 2, 2018, 11:54 PM

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Gronnling Allied Race

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 11:56 PM

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running in the alpha,and to no one's surprise,vulpera are as tall as goblins

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 11:56 PM

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WHAAAAAAAAA

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THE GOBLIN MODEL USERS ARE GOBLIN SIZED

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 11:58 PM

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vris,why do you have to be such a killjoy everytime,the sethrak are much taller than worgen

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and yet they use quite a heavily modified worgen rig

hollow dock Apr 2, 2018, 11:58 PM

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You just said why they'd be taller

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Vulpera are not heavily modified from the goblin rig

strange falcon Apr 2, 2018, 11:59 PM

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hey i was just checking and going around

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you dont have to be so aggressive just because i've made a statement

steel venture Apr 2, 2018, 11:59 PM

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vris
vris not being overly sarcastic

u in the right server friendo?

hollow dock Apr 3, 2018, 12:00 AM

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This isnt' aggressive. this is me being sarcastic and mocking

strange falcon Apr 3, 2018, 12:00 AM

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hogger

uncut vault Apr 3, 2018, 12:08 AM

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you know, Dark Irons might not need a rep, would be nice to give a freebie race to each faction

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especially ones like dark iron and maghar

rich apex Apr 3, 2018, 12:10 AM

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Anything's possible

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Tho, iirc, the achievements that did get datamined imply you gotta do -something-

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But who knows if it's just finishing the base storyline

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Etc

uncut vault Apr 3, 2018, 12:11 AM

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pretty sure the datamined thing was just "complete the dark iron questchain to unlock them"

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same as the current four

rich apex Apr 3, 2018, 12:11 AM

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Oh, was it? Nevermind then 😛

strange falcon Apr 3, 2018, 12:12 AM

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if the speculations are true and mag'har/darkiron are in the prepatch,the requirements might just be finish the prepatch event and their questline

uncut vault Apr 3, 2018, 12:12 AM

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I'd expect that, since dark irons are involved in both questing and max level, and maghar are presumably involved in the starting max level stuff too

jovial coral Apr 3, 2018, 2:02 AM

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You'd think the deeprun tram would be more vulnerable than ever

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But I guess it shouldn't technically run underwater after googling

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Still though

tidal lynx Apr 3, 2018, 2:09 AM

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I joined the game during Legion. How can people join the beta?

uncut vault Apr 3, 2018, 2:09 AM

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they invite you

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its luck at this point

tidal lynx Apr 3, 2018, 2:09 AM

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Ahh man...

rich apex Apr 3, 2018, 2:11 AM

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You opt in on your account page and then make an offering to Metzen

tidal lynx Apr 3, 2018, 2:12 AM

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Yeah I did that

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I really want a Dark Iron Protection Paladin

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I’ve been imagining my character for days.

hollow dock Apr 3, 2018, 2:29 AM

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Your offering to metzen is only accepted by liking the 'Same picture of Chris Metzen everyday' page on facebook

meager warren Apr 3, 2018, 2:29 AM

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i doubt we're getting more paladins at this point.
but still, i wouldn't mind seeing forsaken paladins

hollow dock Apr 3, 2018, 2:30 AM

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DIDs have been confirmed to get paladins tho

meager warren Apr 3, 2018, 2:30 AM

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wat

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pics or it didn't happen

hollow dock Apr 3, 2018, 2:30 AM

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there's even a paladin ram for Dark Iron and normal dwarves

sharp bluff Apr 3, 2018, 2:34 AM

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Vris is right

uncut vault Apr 3, 2018, 2:36 AM

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/hnewman/2018/01/30/battle-for-azeroth-questions-answered-why-warcraft-players-wont-see-void-bears/#86cfe1336cdc

Forbes

Battle For Azeroth Questions Answered: Why Warcraft Players Won't ...

World of Warcraft's game director and creative director discuss answers to a wide variety of (sometimes silly) questions about the new expansion, now available for preorder.

rich apex Apr 3, 2018, 2:37 AM

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I still don't get why Forbes has a gaming section

hollow dock Apr 3, 2018, 2:47 AM

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I mean. Have you seen how much gaming makes on the global market?

rich apex Apr 3, 2018, 2:53 AM

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Well, yeah, but they're not exactly talking about Blizz's stocks there

tidal lynx Apr 3, 2018, 2:53 AM

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I will sell my soul for my Dark Iron Dwarf

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Warriors are in every single class in the game aren’t they?

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I’m down with selling my soul to Metzen for a Beta access

sharp bluff Apr 3, 2018, 2:59 AM

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I would sell my soul for more DK races lol... but I know better T.T

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Yes every race has warrior, and I believe hunter, only those 2

uncut vault Apr 3, 2018, 2:59 AM

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alpha doesnt have allied races anyways

meager warren Apr 3, 2018, 3:39 AM

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"The great heroes in WoW can often do things that exceed the powers of the player character, but there are a lot of parallels to be drawn there."
Apparently the player character is more powerful than most npcs so which is it

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void bears would be pretty dope tbh

tropic trail Apr 3, 2018, 4:09 AM

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void bears? so like void elf nightmare druids?