its hilarious
#beta-ptr-spoilers
strange falcon
hollow dock
NH and TOS were AOE heavy.
If you look back at every other expac, boomkins were pretty bottom barrel until they got stats or an AOE focused tier came out
tulip sun
I love how that artist added a highmountain tauren and gryphon rider
hollow dock
that's definately a temp one.
sharp bluff
Like the DK Red Dragon Slayer one
hollow dock
I dont remember getting any rewards for slaughtering the reds
Yea Im not finding any titles Zep. What title did you get?
uncut vault
there was no title from that, just an achieve that they removed because reasons
hollow dock
They removed it because of the overwhelming complaints on the PTR forums about how its miserable to earn and miserable to miss.
steel venture
It was an achive they removed because they didn't wanna canonize the lore implications.
hollow dock
"Feedback from the community noted that a missable achievement was unfun for the players that missed it. While we've chosen to remove the Feats of Strength granted in the questlines overall, the voice line from Bolvar will still play if players do choose to go down this path as Death Knights.
As was alluded to, these Feats were not meant to go live, as we had previously decided that they were misaligned with our general look towards achievements, namely that they were unobtainable if missed in a non-repeatable quest area. Again, these will no longer be obtainable in 7.2.5, and for players who did obtain the achievement it will be removed."
jade basalt
They removed it because you could miss it, and that pissed the people that missed it.
hollow dock
"I can appreciate that no-one likes having something taken away from them. To try and clarify a little bit why we came to this decision; during the course of the PTR testing feedback from the community overwhelmingly pointed out that a missable achievement was both unfun for players that missed it, and unfun for players that felt compelled to slaughter innocent red dragons to achieve it.
I do also want to mention that, while the Feat of Strength will be removed, the special voice line from Bolvar will still play if players choose to follow this particular route."
The response to the people pissed about it getting removed.
steel venture
(And I recall a blue saying if a bunch of people did it they'd make it canon.)
hollow dock
maybe as an off hand, but that's not their reasoning for removing it
steel venture
So it was a mess all around
hollow dock
-"I've sacrificed everything. What have YOU given?"
-" Well, aside from the never ending drive to inflict pain, our de facto leader just picked a fight with the bronze and red dragonflights."
-"...da...damn, I uhhh...you know these tattoos are just bodypaint, right?"
This is my favorite post from the thread on this FoS getting removed
sharp bluff
Forced to slaughter our friend in the tutorial
Kill our own races after being raised, but before we broke free
hollow dock
slaughter, albiet Scarlet Crusader, innocent civilians. Defile churches and graves, use their skulls as potions.
sharp bluff
They were tasty potions though
Impersonated a postal worker
Killed a horse/pony then raised it
hollow dock
Also created a disgusting tree disguise
Wait we didn't kill any horses.
We went andstole someone elses horse
sharp bluff
Then took it to a guy who killed it
Or does he corrupt it?
I never figured that part out
hollow dock
Last I remember he kinda poofs his hand and it just disappears into the Shadowlands
and then we go and evict some guy from his horse and take it
I actually dont know why we went to steal the horse in the firstplace tbh
I think that was just something Gothick wanted us to do to see if we'd do it
sharp bluff
Makes sense, guy was a dick
I thought when he sent it to the shadowlands he killed it and corrupted the corpse
hollow dock
Oh no it wasn't gothick
sharp bluff
Then had those guys train it
hollow dock
it was salanar
and he tells us to do it to transform it into a deathcharger
but for some reason we just go and steal someone elses
sharp bluff
I loved riding that pony
hollow dock
http://www.wowhead.com/quest=12680/grand-theft-palomino that screenshot is what everyone did
I love that everyone had the same mindset of just taking hte smallest possible horse
languid yoke
wtb people going "omg it's tuesday and we had no update yet is the world ending"
dense plover
we still have a few hours
hollow dock
its alphatho. It'll come when its ready
compact merlin
taking the small horse with a tauren/draenei is the funniest thing in that zone
carmine junco
Always take the tiny horse!
tulip sun
It was Wednesday week
jovial coral
Watched accolonn video I don't know what's going on anymore
dense plover
My guess is neither do they
Never heard of them, so in general, I’m going to guess they state theories as fact and spread nonsense
Yep
I was rightb
Is this the same person saying argus is the titan of death?
jovial coral
Yeah I guess
dense plover
Yep
Yeah this guy is an idiot
Who knows nothing about lore
And speculates shit based on nothing
Literally no one should believe him as a credible source of anything
If it isn’t on nobbels channel, it is speculation and bullshit
Nobbel87
best lore you tuber ever
jovial coral
I've listened to some of his stuff
jovial coral
I will
uncut vault
My best recommendation for nobbel is watch all his Story of videos, and shy away from the QnAs cause thats where it gets opinionated
terse patrol
@dense plover to be fair, if there's a titan of life, shouldn't there be one of death? And we know the Shadowlands is sort of the dead mirror of the Emerald Dream.
The guy has a scythe, the only part of his face we see is skeletal.
terse patrol
The rest is covered in a mask.
hollow dock
The shadowlands just kinda exist.
dense plover
Maybe he’s a harvester
hollow dock
not to mention, we have no idea how much of argus is the natural titan
terse patrol
Just saying, I wouldn't outright say "lol no". I say, wait and see.
hollow dock
and how much is Sargeras' influence on him
terse patrol
Because death has as much of a purpose in things as Life does.
hollow dock
It does, but we have no actual indications on him other than theme. Which can be just as easily attributed to Sargeras shoving him into a titan keeper body like he does Aggramar
terse patrol
Because most of his abilities are soul/death related, until he's corrupted by Sargeras in the Mythic phase.
He might not be. But wouldn't using the titan of death's soul to prevent the deaths of Sargeras' army be logical? Having "death" under Sargeras' sway, in order to make his army "infinite." I'm not saying he's the titan of death with certainty, but I am saying discouting it wholesale is silly.
discounting*
hollow dock
he's not preventing their deaths
the Twisting Nether is
Argus just speeds up their regeneration
jovial coral
Hmmm
terse patrol
However, killing demons on Argus results in some of them saying "they go to be reborn in Antorus." I honestly think that even demons can't die in the Nether, at least until we "killed" Argus.
Could be wrong tho
hollow dock
that's not because of lore reasons I'd wager
since those same demons just replace 'antorus' with 'argus'
And it has been proven that demons do die in the nether
kil'jaeden, Archimonde
they're gone for good.
terse patrol
but ye, idk. For being of order, I'd think letting life run rampant would be weird. So there'd have to be someone to help maintain balance.
hollow dock
Life naturally decays out though
terse patrol
beings*
hollow dock
and we do see that Alexstrasza's charge is preserving life, even if it means causing death.
Just because Eonar controls the ebb and flow of life does not mean that she shrieks at death. On the contrary, death is needed for life to flourish.
uncut vault
I mean, eonar isnt a titan of life. She's a titan that uses life magic. You wouldn't call Sargeras the Titan of Physical Damage because he solely uses his sword
hollow dock
or Aggramar a fire titan
or Khazgoroth an earth titan
all we need is water and air and we got the avatar in the making
hollow dock
that's why she's a The rest of this message has been censored by the FCC. Pay $5 to see.
jovial coral
That theory of sargeras winning somehow is almost convincing
If argus speeds up the demons regeneration in the twisted nether the sargeras theories start to come together but idk
dense plover
Him winning would be azeroth dead
uncut vault
Well, it depends on if he kept his titan lust from the warlock order hall book
dense plover
Look
The problem with his videos is the click bait
And that he states things as fact instead of theories
It spread bullshit and is rumor mongoring
It’s bad for the lore community
And makes our lives as lore nerds harder because instead of explaining a thing in the lore we have o explain why this jackass is talking about a theory and not a fact
I’m pretty sure he started the alliance orc rumor too
Even though they have horde voice lines
He is a pain in the ass for the lore community
uncut vault
cause clearly he just knows theyre right.
dont mind those official lore books blizz is releasing
he knows the real facts
dense plover
This is essentially the essence of the bullshit he spews
Btw, new alpha wave went out
Still nothing for me, but I’m going to keep leveling my allied races and reporting bugs I find
That will probably help my chances
uncut vault
found something mildly interesting on the alpha
with the wildfire bombs that hunters throw, the cone trajectory is based on the hunters position when it lands, not when it's thrown
tulip sun
I kinda want to see a huojin or tushui military character, even if it's a throw away npc
Like named
Or have the leaders do something
uncut vault
seeing a serious hozen would be nice
uncut vault
It might have to do with the Legion hit register changes gone wrong
dense plover
because looking at the casting animation, it definitely doesnt seem like it should act that way
and it isnt consistent with other similar mechanics
uncut vault
damage is registered on hit instead of cast now, so trajectory might have been lumped in with that
tulip sun
Is it a bug? I heard they were talking about keeping two pets for hunters
hollow dock
Sargerashad been winning tho
uncut vault
Yeah but Survival doesnt use two pets
clever ember
There is a talent for BM hunters to have a second pet
uncut vault
you can choose, yes
it summons the first pet in your stable, so you put the one you want to summon second there
jovial coral
Exotic Munitions with survival would be cool
Maybe reworked
Definitely not two pets though
tulip sun
Can you control them separately?
hollow dock
theres no point to seperate control on them
Like. We dont micro our current hunter pet. We just send it in, have it do KC every now and then.
Unless it has a brez or hero, we dont really do much with the pets
tulip sun
Personally, it would help me with some things. The said things are not really that important, but ya.
tulip sun
Same!!!!!!!!
tired otter
Says in captain Picard voice “could it be Lore?”
tulip sun
-hopes for a build today-
ruby star
Same
ruby star
The chances are very low though
hollow dock
the chance is 50/50
tulip sun
wow just started updatnig
hollow dock
We'll know anew build is coming when the server goes down
dense plover
^
terse patrol
alpha build I assume? @hollow dock
hollow dock
No clearly we're talking about live :p
hollow dock
With some lore and off topic stuff inbetween
terse patrol
we talk about current build stuff too thoo
hollow dock
Unless its a hotfix all live builds are scheduled on a tuesday.
tropic trail
all you talk about you say? this chat gets derailed so often tho.
hollow dock
Yea I already noted that.
tropic trail
Am I the only one longing for a new build to come out?
gritty idol
So those uh larger female animals
tropic trail
I really want to see more island expeditions.
dense plover
Don’t think we are getting more islands just yet
I expect the quest turn ins as well as the other difficulty modes first
ruby star
Hopefully the next two zones will be released in the next build
rich apex
rich apex
Srsly
jovial coral
I remember vaugly using them on people in BGs a long time ago the people would just run out of range like who cares
hollow dock
have y'all read the comment section?
holy shit I've never seen such levels of salt
"What the ^&*! is wrong with you, Blizzard? You'd honestly have to be the stupidest people on the freakin' planet to think this is a good idea! Seriously, what were you smoking?
jaldaan said:
Wait, did anyone actually -use- First Aid anymore?.
Yes. I did. And I enjoyed doing so. Just because YOU don't, doesn't mean other people shouldn't be allowed to."
tropic trail
F
rich apex
...Who enjoys wasting mildly valuable cloth when the average mob fight doesn't damage you that much anymore?
Like
I don't remember using bandages since
Wrath maybe
hollow dock
"What a load of BS. I spent loads of time farming the cloth necessary to level this prof on all my toons. Probably 1000s in gold learning all the skills for all my toons. And now its all being thrown out the window without so much as a by your leave? Like I said, what a load of BS."
This is the only salty comment I can understand
tropic trail
I dump all my cloth into the gbank
hollow dock
I just AH all the cloth I get.
tropic trail
I can't ever sell it even though I undermine everyone by 70% 😑
rich apex
...why would -buy- cloth to grind first aid for -all- of your toons
hollow dock
My last Tabard of the Lightbringer sold for 320k in a bidding war. People are not smart.
dense plover
It made sense to remove first aid
It didn’t fill a niche
And was unnecessary bloat
It also gives much needed leveling recipes to tailoring and alchemy
tight wagon
Is that player really complaining that he will never have to do that again in his alts?
I honestly don't understand
It's like "before this update I had to hit my rock thirty times a day, now blizzard is removing that so no one has to do it and I'm so annoyed because I did!!!"
meager warren
The server goes down like once a week, @hollow dock
wat
hollow dock
yea and new builds come out following those.
meager warren
wat
hollow dock
Whether or not theyre big content builds or just bugfixes is to be seen m8
meager warren
when i think of "bugfixes," "new build" isn't close to the top of things i also think of
hollow dock
A new build is when the game changes or adds something. Bugfix builds do exist and do update the numbers. an example of '6.2.9834' changed to '6.2.9934' are two seperate builds of the games even if there's minor changes for us players.
dense plover
bugfix builds for alpha are essentially nonexistant on their own
there have been a few but they almost always follow a content build earlier in the week
alpha is constantly changing so the only time you get a bugfix build is when there is a critical issue or important content that was left out and they want tested
jovial coral
https://wow.gamepedia.com/High_Priest_Venoxis#/media/File%3AVenorix.jpg
Anybody know what the snake form is called
hollow dock
snake man form
jovial coral
Hmm okays
meager warren
I was trying to figure out if that was a troll or an undead but then, feet
hollow dock
Venoxis. High Priest. with a Gurubashi backdrop.
tropic trail
Serpentine Form if you want some answer to that
meager warren
no, no...
it's snek form
jovial coral
It kind of bothers me the snake form is so similar to Naga but the elves come from trolls
dense plover
the snake form is not lore correct neccesarily
also
naga come from elves
so it being similar wouldnt be that weird
but a snake person has a consistant shape
naga in myths are literally snake people
jovial coral
True
rich apex
It looks like a naga because they reused the naga skeleton 😛
jovial coral
Blizzard would never be so lazy to reuse skeletons. They obviously wanted to show how closely related Nelfs and trolls are to each other
strange falcon
is that sarcasm I see
meager warren
yes
jovial coral
Yes but I can also see people at blizz coming to that same conclusion to rationalize it.
Since evolution is an on going process (irl anyway) Naga should have a longer body/tail Imo
terse patrol
Apparently theres a live maintenance on thursday. Didn't we just have one on tuesday?
hollow dock
not uncommon. Normally means they didn't catch something on tuesday and just found it out today.
uncut vault
might be for ensembles. Unlikely but possible
tropic trail
I wish it is, I can't get the pants for my dk set 😥
uncut vault
the hotfix they have planned is nice, im happy their listening, but
just change it to "if you've gotten elite within x season, you can buy the ensemble"
no waiting till the end
tropic trail
I like the elite ensemble sets but the lich king looking one for death knights disappoints me for a weird reason
uncut vault
that was waaay back in season 1 and 2 and NH
tropic trail
Yeah
It saddens me how the actual PvP set matches with itself better than the raid sets
carmine junco
Honestly I will not miss first aid. The way they made how to level it this go round (involving those damn quests) made it such a pain in the ass to deal with. (ETA: originally said 'tailoring', because I wrote this while on melatonin, thanks brain!)
Guessing all the associated achieves will be converted to legacy or feats of strength
hollow dock
Theyre not getting rid of tailoring. Theyre getting rid of First aid.
And Lilo, the pvp sets are the exact same model as the raid sets. The elite versions is just a recolor of the mythic tier.
hollow dock
Oh hey, the trilobite might be a sneeple mount.
boreal gazelle
In for Alpha Access! Got it TODAY! Sorry soooo excited....
strange falcon
well,SNEKS get trilobite,vulpera get hyenas
terse patrol
snek allied race when
terse patrol
Voldun belongs to the Sethrak!
hollow dock
And that's how it'll stay! For the Glory of the Alliance!
terse patrol
Anduin gets a snake waifu.
dense plover
i still think it will be Anduin and Tess
ideal marriage
reunite the human kingdoms directly
strange falcon
@terse patrol you called? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYgf2D-X0AAyk-o.jpg
strange falcon
i've already reserved the best snek names on eu sorry
terse patrol
I reserved Ratchet for my vulpera so
strange falcon
some of the names i've reserved are Outfoxed for vulpera,and Dangernoodle for snek
gritty idol
@strange falcon I can only imagine that fight ended up in sex
sharp bluff
Orc would be the big spoon lol
gritty idol
Things that i'm ashamed would turn me on
sharp bluff
notice how the Orc doesn't look worried in the picture? he is wondering what it tastes like
hollow dock
no Orc would ever be terrified of an ambush
tulip torrent
for a moment probably because of the color i though that it was a tauren on the picture
that snake has really big feet
its like the head of the orc
hollow dock
Have you seen how large Garrosh's feet are to his own head?
tulip torrent
not really
btw i noticed that few streamers are claiming that they have right to stream bfa
why does blizz does not want streamers to stream alpha
if they gave so many streamers access ?
strange falcon
🤔
tulip torrent
for some reason i have really unhealthy obsession with alpha :/
strange falcon
it's okay
tulip torrent
yesterday i watched a streamer who said that blizz allowed him to stream
dense plover
rolls eyes
blizz isnt not allowing
you are allowed to
if they state that, maybe they were answering the question
or if they are a popular streamer, they may have been given access
hollow dock
*tbh with someone who has an unhealthy obsession with the alpha, you sure do seem to not be in on everything about it.8
tulip torrent
i was still using curse client untill they just said that there will be no addons update for it
like 2 months ago or something
hollow dock
I wouldn't call that an obsession
an obsession would be gathering as much, no matter how important or insignificant, information about it as you can. Or even buying an alpha account from someone.
tulip torrent
I am currently watching an alliance gnome playing :/
hollow dock
why is that a bad thing?
hollow dock
oh you can do anything you want
now whether or not its illegal is the real question
that's again, not useless information arg.
Useless info would be learning how many pixels are in each of the maps on Alpha.
tulip torrent
to be fair the alpha map currently looks like something taken out of a 8 bit game
its really hurtful to look at it
strange falcon
i'm going to guess you never questioned why some zones are still not open for testing on alpha
tulip torrent
thats why i am more fan of the beta than alpha
dense plover
the alpha map is just the ingame default
the artists take that and the knowledge of the actual zone
and make the artwork of the maps we see
its one of the last things done
because changes to the maps will happen until mid beta generally
tulip torrent
atleast the portals in the isle expedition look like really nice idea
i wonder if its the same portal for both fractions
dense plover
it will all look good eventually
its extremely unfinished
beta can still have massive changes
tulip torrent
one bonus point for beta is char copy 😛
languid yoke
oi update inc
ruby star
Oooo new build been hinted at????
OOOooo Achiveements for Dark Iron Dwarves + Mag'har orcs
So far it looks like no rep requirements for them
rich apex
Allied Races: Dark Iron Dwarf (Hidden Character Achievement) Complete the quest below. Reward: Dark Iron Dwarf Race Unlocked
~ (Hidden Character Achievement) ~
tulip torrent
mmm one step closer to beta !
ruby star
Nice
dense plover
looks like we may have the stromgarde warfront in this build
tons of changes
and a minimap
also maybe King's rest
dense plover
KezanDungeon - The V.M.Z.
KezanDungeon - Lucky Strike Mines
KezanDungeon - Rocketzan
KezanDungeon - Downrange: Bar, Grill, and Minefield
KezanDungeon - R&D
KezanDungeon - Crapopolis
KezanDungeon - The High Road
KezanDungeon - White Frag Lane
KezanDungeon - Platinum Sands
Crapopolis
ruby star
guessing the actual model for the Dark Iron Core Hound won't be seen to at least next build?
dense plover
¯_(ツ)_/¯
might be in this build
probably just a tweak to the corehound from the 13th anniversary
although it would be nice to get a new corehound mount model
b/c its been reused a lot
dreamy breach
https://twitter.com/wowhead/status/976925185679884288?s=21 you were saying lol.
Core hound lost weight!!
ruby star
Oh my that's ❤
I was actually surprised it wasn't the big fat ones xD
but that still looks really damn nice
ruby star
Yeah! 😄
hollow dock
Oh its a different Core hound
that's why its so much smaller. it's a single head, instead of the usual 2
ruby star
Same, it's very nice 😄
hollow dock
Yea those are on par for what the normal corehound has.
dense plover
new bracer enchant
Safe Hearthing - Permanantly enchants bracers to create an absorb shield around you while using your hearthstone on Kul Tiras or Zandalar.
we diablo 3 bois
dense plover
Mythic: Zul - Defeat Zul in Uldir on Mythic difficulty.
dense plover
paladin rams
zul isnt last
ghuun is last
but zul has an achievement in uldir
so he is a boss there
dense plover
if he IS the last boss
placing hard bets that the loss of ghuun means him summoning hakkar
dense plover
nvm about the previous enchant
Cooled Hearthing - Permanantly enchants bracers to reduce the cooldown of your hearthstone by 5 minutes while in Kul Tiras or Zandalar.
best one ever
ruby star
i think normal dwarves get the new ram too
hollow dock
the new ram is the dwarf paladin mount
ruby star
ye
rich apex
Dorf and DI pallies are getting rams
hollow dock
Did we mention the normal dwarves and DI dwarves are getting the new rams?
rich apex
blizz why
ruby star
Drustvar Beast Man apparently
tulip torrent
manbearpig ?
uncut vault
That is likely MOTHER
dense plover
^
Some of these models are fucking weird
also curious to find out the origin of the drustvar beastmen
we finally got the actual boss model
true matrix
corehalf
rich apex
tentelemental
ruby star
"Some of these models are fucking weird" agreed xD
ruby star
At least the beast man is not the moonkin form lol
rich apex
TFW the powers of the Warp overwhelm your puny mortal body and the gods of Chaos just laugh
hollow dock
I imagine that the Drustvar practice a form of druidism that is more in line with what we know as Witchcraft and black magic. Hence all the weird cadavers.
strange falcon
have u bois seen the new dwarf paladin mounts,
rich apex
Yes
uncut vault
It is, it’s called Druidic death magic a couple times by Blizz
hollow dock
No
strange falcon
seems like alliance got a sprinkle of love
hollow dock
we haven't
Absolutely not
We haven't seen any mounts
they dont exist
fake news
rich apex
Now to wait for the human charger retexture 😐
uncut vault
They probably won’t
strange falcon
the normal dwarf one was an excuse since they were also working on DID
hollow dock
Probably haven't put that much work into Kul'tirans
to pass any sort of judgement on them
rich apex
I can dream
uncut vault
Men have two faces
hollow dock
clearly this means that we cna say for certain they wont have paladins
rich apex
It is an alpha
strange falcon
also,with the bois in the other discord,we were thinking on the "possibly very wrong and stupid" hypothesis of vulpera paladins,and the hyena model with golden paladin armor on it
hollow dock
get out of here with your logic and reasoning Hyper
rich apex
And Kul'tirans might not be out until 8.1
uncut vault
I mean, if they wanna butcher the lore they just made on the new continent, I guess they’d have paladins
rich apex
...Golden armor hyena?
hollow dock
Clearly if it uses the color of yellow or any of its forms
its paladin
100%
can't be anything else
dense plover
actually paladins get two mounts
a shit one
and then a better one
those two are the shit and better
the silver one being the level 20 mount
and the golden one being the level (40?) mount
also, new alpha wave
still nada for me
terse patrol
wait
Is there a secret complex under Kings Rest?
o wait nvm
this is for zuldazar
terse patrol
Thought they meant under Varians memorial
hollow dock
Its not like anyone is dumb enough to build a secret complex under their own city.
tulip sun
What are the garrison portraits?
sharp bluff
Ya... right... [looks at undercity]
dense plover
i think kings rest is under ataldazar
or it might be under the actual temple in zuldazar
sharp bluff
Ahh lol
uncut vault
This build lends more support to arathi updates being put in the open world
theres now a WarfrontsArathi and Warfronts Arathi - Alliance maps, that have the enemy base built and yours bare, with a cutout of the map
and this build added ArathiHighlands2, with both bases built, and an updated hammerfel on the full arathi map
hollow dock
that clearly couldn't possibly be phasing at work within an instance.
Like the invasions
uncut vault
Not sure if facetious or dont know how phasing works
hollow dock
take your pick.
dense plover
vris
the map is cut off
but they redid the entire zone
its pretty clear they plan to phase the zone at 110
like silithus
maybe theyll put WQs there too
uncut vault
not just redid the entire zone, redid it on a separate map file, with the aftermath of the warfronts built up
Warfronts there would be nice
though I wonder if theyll update refuge pointe to match hammerfel
dense plover
oh yeah
uncut vault
huh, hammerfel got more updates wth the new map
olive mirage
what do yall think of manbearpig
uncut vault
👌
olive mirage
dense plover
thats man zombie pig
hollow dock
Manbearpig
tulip sun
I am stilll clueless on what the garrison portraits are of.
The troops we can recruit?
jovial coral
That's a frakenpig
dense plover
yep
ooo
death from above now exists for all 3 rogue specs
its different for each
dense plover
yeah
it was readded to the other two
wowhead has broadcast text
this is not a drill
strange falcon
this is not a drill
uncut vault
"LAUGHING SKULL! LAUGHING SKULL! HAHAHAHAHA!"
dense plover
hmmmmm
uncut vault
dense plover
ghuun is still being called an old god
this makes me think that the titans uber fucked up
uncut vault
its literally robert baratheon
ruby star
It does sound like Mark Addy
strange falcon
does bwomsamdi have the trademark troll accent'
uncut vault
its a mix of the darkspear and zandalari
dense plover
oh boy
its a bit difficult to understand
its accurate to the region
but oh boy
damn
he gets demonic when he gets mad
languid yoke
everytime an NPC says "champion" I wanna shoot them in the face
...even if they are dead ghosts
dense plover
would you rather they said nothing?
dense plover
then turn off VO
languid yoke
why does everyone consider me a champion
terse patrol
Bwomsamdi sounds cool. Daelin is Robert Baratheon, so automatically cool.
Wish he was alive.
dense plover
is it similar or is it actually him?
tulip torrent
he might be kinda living
dense plover
nah
tulip torrent
you saw the army at the end of the season
terse patrol
dont think so, maybe. We'll have to see his voice credit when the game launches.
uncut vault
its certainly aghost or flashback
terse patrol
Robert's actor isnt doing much atm I think.
tulip torrent
am i the only one without alpha access ? 😦
tulip torrent
i thought you have it too ?
uncut vault
men and women both had chest probllems, men had mismatched colors from arms to chest, women had disappearing chest when they wore antything revealing
women also had spear holding problems, all weapons went through them instead of in their hands
dense plover
i would pay legit money to have it
i want it badly
im the biggest dinosaur nerd you will ever know
and there are dinosaurs everywhere
theres a brutosaur taxi
also, ive been wanting to see zuldazar in game for 6 years
terse patrol
I'd pay money in order to have the gold covered appearance for a Zandalari.
Like that one boss
uncut vault
I mean women get the neckpieces
uncut vault
Yeah women get huge golen neckpieces, but that is a very specific thing
tulip torrent
they look like someone covered them with molten gold from the head
uncut vault
yoooo
strange falcon
anduin is pimping with the new sword
did it get reforged
or did they find the second half
dense plover
looks like they upgraded it
strange falcon
@dense plover if you wanted a size comparison,some vulpera npcs have appeared in the latest alpha build in zuldazar city
dense plover
they were there last build
i already knew what they looked like
they use the goblin skeleton
i believe they are a similar size
maybe slightly larger
strange falcon
there's some new npcs,or they just updated the old npcs
some new npcs popped up in zuldazar city! size comparison with belf(not me in alpha) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/419964105940795404/426520734853234698/Meera.png
uncut vault
theyre a bit bigger simple because theyve got slightly longer torsos
lusty latch
they're like two inches taller then the Goblins
or 3
due to their legs being longer
strange falcon
you may ask yourself,why none of the npcs has shoulders
because they're ridiculously oversized,and blizz is being lazy and not fixing it yet
lusty latch
they'll fix it
strange falcon
duh
lusty latch
they don't want another floating shoulders issue like the Goblins
terse patrol
Hope not
tranquil steeple
or wod orcs where they carried actual tanks on their shoulders
tulip sun
So, I am looking at the garrison portraits. I see some very interesting ones, scorpions and that golem-like draenei guy from Argus.
uncut vault
Looks like FnF alpha is over, now its on to normal alpha stage
tulip sun
What's that blue thing beside the spider(my bad, spider not scorpion)
tulip sun
I like some of these weird troops
dense plover
they dont make the most sense as troops
tulip sun
Like the vigilants
The spiders are neat. But I don't see them as being troops themselves. Like having a hunter model with it as a pet or something -shrug-
I wanna see more like the vigilants tho
terse patrol
AN ORCISH HORDE ON AN OPEN FIELD, TERENAS.
LIGHT I WAS PROUD THEN.
tbh, I feel bad for Daelin.
He experienced probably some of the worst parts of the Second War.
Fighting the Dragonmaw, seeing his ships and his own son torched by the enslaved dragons.
Understandable that someone couldn't reconcile that.
rich apex
Cool motive, still attempted mass murder
terse patrol
eh, horde did mass murder first
rich apex
And then Thrall got their shit together (aside from however many were born after the Second War, like he was) and they helped save the world
terse patrol
to be fair
You're looking at it from a position where you know everything that happened.
Nobody would think IRL that a culture like the Mongol Horde would become nice guys within a handful of years.
After being beaten.
terse patrol
It's still logic.
rich apex
And the narrative is pretty clear Daelin was Super Wrong
terse patrol
He saw a bunch of his people torched. "Oh, they're totally different now" a couple years later likely wouldn't fly for most people.
Plus
rich apex
Logic would have had the humans, orcs, and night elves keep on murdering each other
And then Archy wins
terse patrol
He was coming from Kul Tiras. He likely didn't know everything about the whole "saving the world" thing yet.
rich apex
Until his own daughter told him
And was willing to side with them because she knew they didn't deserve to die
terse patrol
still, I don't think he's an outright bad person. Just blind to his own hate of the Horde.
rich apex
That's generally pretty bad
terse patrol
So
terse patrol
You're saying that people with PTSD and other such things from war, who develop an irrational hatred for the enemy's people, are just
outright bad people.
Like those who fought the Japanese in WW2.
rich apex
If an American with PTSD tried to murder a bunch of Japanese people, yes
But
It's a story and it runs on narrative, not realism
WoW doesn't do subtle villains
terse patrol
Do you think Genn is evil?
rich apex
That'll depend on whether or not he tries to wipe out Horde cities to the last
And it's still more about what the narrative presents
terse patrol
He advocated for killing all Orcs rather than put them into camps, because he believed they couldn't be redeemed.
rich apex
Which is bad
rich apex
Probably, yeah
Given the whole Proud Dad Smile, I'm not expecting them to make him a villain
terse patrol
Daelin might have changed if they'd had just captured him somehow. Jaina's a mage, she's perfectly capable.
but
narrative i guess
rich apex
Pretty much
terse patrol
He likely thought the Horde had brainwashed her or something.
I do love that Daelin is now Robert Baratheon though.
Makes me extra sad he's not alive and a main character.
rich apex
I'm just salty at -everyone- giving Jaina crap for making an objectively right decision 😛
terse patrol
I mean
rich apex
And mildly concerned that Jaina won't eventually tell herself she was right
Yes, it makes sense for them to
rich apex
But
They literally wrote a song
About how evil she is
No one ever gets captured alive and rehabilitated
strange falcon
plotarmor is OP
terse patrol
I think she'll get over her hate, but realize she was naive as well.
Sadly, pretty sure Daelin's gone for good though.
rich apex
Considering there's no moral way to dismantle the Horde without going Full Daelin
terse patrol
The Death Knights used his soul to make a freaking mount.
rich apex
Worth it
terse patrol
LIGHT I WAS STRONG THEN
rich apex
Well
Depending on what exactly GhostDaelin knows
Because if he knows the full picture now
And still gives Jaina shit
Then 100% worth being sucked into a horse
terse patrol
I think "ghost Daelin" is just a nightmare Jaina has on the way to Kul Tiras.
hollow dock
I say that Daelin's ghost is just a memory. Like Alexandros was.
terse patrol
Not a memory, since he knows things that happened after death.
dense plover
yep
definitely a ghost
maybe at waycrest manor
maybe in the new death realm scenario thing
apparently the new arathi is live on alpha
@uncut vault do you mind going to arathi to check?
also, told you so @hollow dock
oh
apparently its only some of it
which is weird
uncut vault
alphas updated then sure
dense plover
theres apparently a horde zepplinn and a zepplin tower
oh also
that reminds me
can you check out boralus
specifically the garden behind proudmoore keep
and this area
that area has been redone by almost 50%
uncut vault
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just the front gates of the base adn the zeppelin spawn
dense plover
strange that the rest of the zone is the same
thx for checking though
its helpful
dense plover
ooo
uncut vault
cooking fires are also floating in mid air where the main base should be
dense plover
huge insight into it
uncut vault
most likely theyre just beginning to implement it into the open world
uncut vault
Essence of Storm, rare drop chance from mobs, summons an elemental
uncut vault
gonna need to check live but grass looks updated too
uncut vault
wellwhen you land on the ship, the map becomes a PH eastern kingdoms map instead of Arathi
dense plover
oh
okay
so maybe thats how you enter warfronts
queue for them
that would be cool
dense plover
and if they add WQs to arathi, it would make that zone active
so
can you check out boralus now?
sorry im sending you on errands
but i cant check 😭
uncut vault
Yeah sure
dense plover
awesome
the garden has been made more garden-y from what i can see
that island i circled is totally different
also, the half of tiragarde near norwinton manor has been detailed heavily if you are interested
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tulip sun
@uncut vault Whats that
uncut vault
updated stromgarde gate
tulip sun
Uh, bugged? xD
uncut vault
seems like this build is testing if they fit in the open world
added a jail area to boralus
dense plover
what about the garden behind proudmoore keep?
uncut vault
riding there now
dense plover
cool
so they changed that island into a prison
wonder why
i guess its a lore reason for tol dagor to be where the really bad people are kept
uncut vault
still some PH assets but they made it look like an actual well kept keep instead of a rusty sewer
dense plover
yep
the path texture was changed too
it used to all be that same stone
and i like the trimmed bush/tree things
uncut vault
dense plover
invisible boat
visible anchor
an almost perfect spy operation
clearly someone forgot to spray the anchor with invisibility spray
tropic trail
what do yall think of the Bwonsamdi Voice Over.... fits perfectly imo
uncut vault
I like the angry effects
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steel venture
this is probably for liadrin and thats it lmao
rich apex
I admit I will be a little bit salty
If Liadrin gets golden eyes because she's more attuned to the Light or some bullshit
Tho, admittedly, it does make up for the lack of unique model, if she's becoming more prominent
On the other hand, Lorth doesn't have a unique model either
tropic trail
something something, fel corruption of the eyes was replaced with light... corruption?
rich apex
Mostly I mean question of whether or not the gold eyes are -in- the files or if he was fiddling with a model viewer somehow
uncut vault
he's a wowhead dataminer
rich apex
But suppose it will be on a news post if it is
There is that too
Anything's possible lorewise, of course
uncut vault
it makes perfect sense lorewise, and probably already exists in canon
game restrictions just havent allowed it till now
rich apex
I want to say that someone at Blizz did specifically say the fel eyes would fade Eventually (TM)
But I don't remember who or when or whre 😛
And there is the news post
🤔
in before Horde bias because two of their base races are getting new options
terse patrol
They wouldnt add new faces just for Liadrin
tropic trail
Whatever it is, still looks pretty amazing despite it being minor
rich apex
Truuue
Mostly just being smart about not getting hyped quite yet
Of course, the only blood elf I have is a warlock
Who I want to race change to a Mag'har 😛
dense plover
Maybe for the sun of Alleria and Turalyon?
uncut vault
It’s not just an NPC thing
dense plover
Maybe they’re finally going to give the blood elf leader a custom model?
uncut vault
It’s three separate faces
terse patrol
^
uncut vault
Could be for generic ones but they’re not just for one or two people
tropic trail
Oh, and did you guys see the new ram mounts?
steel venture
Ion intentionally misleads people, often.
terse patrol
^
tropic trail
I want one so bad, and that is true^
steel venture
He doesn't WANT people to know everything about the next expansion. Remember he wasn't going to confirm Kul Tirans originally, and later he did because the cat was out of the bag.
terse patrol
Or they changed their mind
steel venture
Or that as well.
terse patrol
Its been months since Blizzcon
hollow dock
He did also say they had some cool things in store
steel venture
^
tropic trail
Idk, if that was the case then Zandalari hype train is misfounded then?
terse patrol
It’d make 0 sense to make an allied race for Wildhammers when Wildhammers look near identical to regular dwarves
Just that they have tattoos
rich apex
I mean
terse patrol
So let dwarves have tattoos
rich apex
If he's going to blatantly mislead
But he also knows full well everything on the alpha gets datamined
tropic trail
For the most part^
rich apex
Particularly something that people will assume is a new customization
hollow dock
not really Lilo. it just means they're going to up the base races
rich apex
Considering they datamined Allied Races hints in the files long before Blizzcon 😛
terse patrol
To note guys
rich apex
And that wasn't even an alpha where the datamines are going through everything more closely
terse patrol
The golden eyes might be priest/paladin only.
tropic trail
But wouldn't that make the allied races "cooler" than the base?
I'd be fine with that^^
terse patrol
Night Elves only have golden eyes for druids.
So, eye color based on class isn’t unheard of.
rich apex
I'm skeptical they'll add a swanky ~new~ option
For only two classes of one race
Even if it makes more sense lorewise
tropic trail
Well, yeah, and the death knights have their icy eyes for their class.
terse patrol
Anyhow
rich apex
That's part of the assortment of unique options DKs have
as a hero class
The question is how much they give to one class/race
terse patrol
I’m pretty sure dwarves will likely get Wildhammer tattoos to sate the Wildhammer lovers
rich apex
Before General Forums cry Horde/paladin/elf bias
tropic trail
They could do that, and it'd be like the treatment that the mag'har are reportedly getting, customizations based off of different clans
terse patrol
“Junker” Gnomes might just be hinting at unique customizations for gnomes.
Like
Mechanical arms
rich apex
I'd rather wait for a proper Wildhammer Allied Race than get the three tattoo options that the old models have 😛