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rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 5:10 AM

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But yeah, ten bucks it's Velen or Akama

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:10 AM

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the illidari didnt kill akama

meager warren Mar 13, 2018, 5:10 AM

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ok well

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 5:10 AM

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Maybe Kil'jaeden

meager warren Mar 13, 2018, 5:10 AM

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someone did

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 5:11 AM

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akamas never died

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:11 AM

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no one killed akama

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he is still alive

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 5:11 AM

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If you pick the Illidan fan boy in the demon hunter class campaign

meager warren Mar 13, 2018, 5:11 AM

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didn't he? 😉

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 5:11 AM

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You kill Akama, rip out his soul, and use it as a slave

meager warren Mar 13, 2018, 5:11 AM

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^

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 5:11 AM

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if you side with kayn, you reform his shade, if you side with altruis, hes just with you

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:11 AM

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^

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 5:11 AM

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akama doesnt die from the shade

meager warren Mar 13, 2018, 5:11 AM

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his body dies

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 5:11 AM

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^

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 5:11 AM

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no, it doesnt

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 5:12 AM

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No it doesnt

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:12 AM

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shade of akama was a boss in BT

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 5:12 AM

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akama is clearly still alive both in TBC and legion

meager warren Mar 13, 2018, 5:12 AM

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then why the fuck is he still a shade

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:12 AM

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and akama still was very much alive

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 5:12 AM

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If you pick Kayn you're scientifically proven to be a bitch

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Because you make him a shade

meager warren Mar 13, 2018, 5:12 AM

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and that doesn't kill him?

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Illidan did the same thing

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 5:12 AM

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hes not still a shade, we pull his shade back out, and no, it doesnt

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shade =/= soul

meager warren Mar 13, 2018, 5:13 AM

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:thonking:

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 5:13 AM

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its a PART of his soul that houses his emotions

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:13 AM

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if anything the shade would be a fragment of his soul

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 5:13 AM

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It isn’t

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It’s more complex than that

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They explained it in the novel

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 5:14 AM

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Illidan takes out part of his soul and it takes akamas darker emotions, most notably his pride, ambition, and drive for power

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:19 AM

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What demon soul does Illidan have in him?

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A felguard?

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An imp?

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We were never told

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Or did we?

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:20 AM

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I think he doesnt have a demon soul inside since he consumed the skull of guldan

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:20 AM

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I always thought that was it

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What remained of Gul’Dan

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:21 AM

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But he consumed it after he became a demon hunter

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:21 AM

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Idk

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:21 AM

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He Must have a demon soul inside him

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He must have ate a demon heart

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But whose?

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:21 AM

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I don’t care much about horni bois

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:21 AM

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What about Tauren?

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They have horns

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Nope

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:22 AM

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or draenei

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:22 AM

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xD

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:22 AM

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they also have horns

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Not all Draenei

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Only the females

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:22 AM

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No

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Right?

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Illidan has no demon soul in him

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Males have em too

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:22 AM

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he is just infused with sargeras' power

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Oh

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And how did he know about the ritual of becoming a dh?

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:23 AM

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Maybe he invented it

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:23 AM

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It was done to him

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his eyes were burned out

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by fel.

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:23 AM

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Yes, but the ritual the other dhs go through is different

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They have to rip their eyes on their own

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:24 AM

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no they stab their eyes

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:24 AM

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They have to eat a demon heart

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:24 AM

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with fel daggers

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Im not sure where you got the eating a demons heart, but they just infuse a demons soul to them

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:24 AM

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From the book illidan

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The must drink the blood of a demon

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:25 AM

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First they have to hunt the demon

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:25 AM

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Nah, not really

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They have to just kill it

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:25 AM

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that is hunting it

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:25 AM

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That’s...hunting it

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:25 AM

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No it isn't

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:25 AM

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So demons volunteer to get killed?????????

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:25 AM

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illidan doesn't present demons.

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:25 AM

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Hunting means they have to first find it

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Don’t they?

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:26 AM

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They are summoned next to them and chained

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:26 AM

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does illidan have his own demonfarm?

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Yes

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:26 AM

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are they grown free range?my dh only eats free range demons

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Not really, that was a joke

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Do they use felicides?

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:26 AM

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In the book, the protagonist was given a demon

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:27 AM

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Merry Christmas!

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:27 AM

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Don't know his name

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Yes, a chained felhound was delivered to him

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He just killed it

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And ate his heart

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:27 AM

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Poor dog

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:27 AM

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And saw some stuff from the past

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Anyways, any datamined info about the boy king?

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:28 AM

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No

ruby prawn Mar 13, 2018, 5:28 AM

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Sad

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:30 AM

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in my book, the demon HUNTER

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HUNTS

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the demon

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 5:33 AM

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I mean, no demon hunter actually has a demon within, its the darkness in their own mind driving them to insanity

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:33 AM

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Nah Im pretty sure that guy that EXPLODED died to the fel energy inside him

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and not to some metaphor of insanity

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:34 AM

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if they dont have demons inside how can they use fel magic?

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 5:34 AM

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Yeah, he couldnt contain his power anymore and exploded

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🤷 ask william king

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Illidan doesnt have a demon within, he uses it just fine

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 5:35 AM

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They definitely got demon souls inside them

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Or some shit

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 5:35 AM

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Demon hunters have demon souls inside them

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 5:35 AM

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The inscription questline

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Has you help a dude deal with his

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And his tattoos

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 5:35 AM

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And Illidan has consumed the souls of

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very many demons

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:35 AM

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Illidan was given power by the legion itself

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 5:36 AM

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Now he himself didn't have to eat a demon to become one

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:36 AM

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thats why he uses fel power

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 5:36 AM

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But he eats demons

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And all demon hunters have the soul of a demon within them. It's imperative to the process of becoming one

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They kill the demon, eat it's heart, then kill the demon again

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Eat it's heart again

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And repeat the process a bunch of times in a weird dream world

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:37 AM

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the rest of dh who dont get power by the legion itself chain demon souls inside them to use that power

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 5:37 AM

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And then they rip their eyes out except sometimes they don't because "reasons"

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 5:40 AM

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Aesthetic

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They're elves, after all

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:41 AM

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Most do. Even if they dont wear blindfolds

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those are eyes still gutted out

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 5:43 AM

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most dh eat demon hearts

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:43 AM

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all of em do

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 5:43 AM

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illidan ate guldaniels skull or smth

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:43 AM

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See the Dh questline, its the only way they get their powers

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 5:44 AM

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hes the only differ

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i have one

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:44 AM

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ripping their eyes out wasnt to sense all kinds of magic better?

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 5:44 AM

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i was just makin an illidan joke haha

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:45 AM

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its so they can see through magic yes.

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Everything else is kinda grey blurs, but magic flares up

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:45 AM

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Ate his skull xD

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 5:45 AM

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Some Demon Hunters keep their eyes, it's in the book

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Doesn't explain why, mind you

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But they just....do. I guess.

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:46 AM

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Don’t they see all sorts of crazy stuff if they keep them?

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 5:46 AM

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Yeah but

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Don't worry it's fine

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:47 AM

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Everything’s fine as the entire universe burns in fel fire

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:47 AM

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insert 'this is fine meme

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:48 AM

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that meme is me whenever I play support/healer

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 5:48 AM

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demon hunters can see just fine, they can see better than normal people. They just also have the ability to switch on magic vision

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:48 AM

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https://tagn.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/wow500error.png

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:49 AM

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Blizzard, Blizzard, Blizzard

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You’d think they would make more icy jokes

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:50 AM

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Mess

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help

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I have to play

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shudder

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garrosh

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:50 AM

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garrosh 🤢

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:51 AM

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People say he sucks now, but he’s still easy to get kills with

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And hard to kill

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:51 AM

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Yea, apparently when you can't throw someone across two screensyou dont seem that powerful

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:52 AM

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Garrosh + Maiev + Stitches

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:53 AM

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+ETC

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cuz why not overkill the knocking around

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:53 AM

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And the tanking

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:53 AM

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dont forget about diablo too

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:53 AM

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there we go

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the new meta comp

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:53 AM

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Don’t even

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:53 AM

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Dibbles, Stitches, ETC, Maiev, and garrosh

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the ultimate 'You're not going to play this game' comp

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:54 AM

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Yep

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You’ll be stunned before you leave base

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:54 AM

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Even as you spawn, the stun timers just carry over

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:54 AM

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or "We are going to use you as ball" comp

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:55 AM

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'You are our new Football' comp

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:55 AM

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Because Diablo’s stun ult

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:55 AM

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he stuns you, he charges you, then you're hooked, then you're chained, then you're tossed and then you're knocked back.

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 5:56 AM

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I mean, I think garrosh's new Q is better because you can actually stall enemies while you get away

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:57 AM

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its a lot worse in the sense that you're not forcing people to not play the game

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:57 AM

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Vris, fav hero?

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Don’t say Illidan

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:58 AM

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hides lvl 16 illidan

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:58 AM

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You're gonna get even more disappointed

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Nova

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lvl 31

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:59 AM

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Abathur, Lv 47

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:59 AM

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see you contribute

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I just shoot things

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and sometimes kill them

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:59 AM

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XD

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 5:59 AM

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my highest lvl is Sylvanas lvl 19

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:59 AM

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I tunneled to hard on nova. My next highest is KT. at 13.

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 5:59 AM

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What ult do you usually pick as Nova?

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 5:59 AM

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Strike.

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at level 20 its so busted to have PS at every 30 seconds

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 6:01 AM

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How dare you not pick Triple Tap

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 6:01 AM

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Listen I know its the best ult in the game

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but. Precision Strike lets me be somewhat helpful to the team by clearing out lanes

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 6:02 AM

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LOL

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 6:02 AM

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You use it on minions....

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I am going to have a seizure.

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 6:02 AM

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I never face people stupid enough to stand in it

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Its up every teamfight so

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eh

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 6:02 AM

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you have a slow to make them stand on it

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also team cc helps with that

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 6:03 AM

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Incorrect

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 6:03 AM

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snicker relying on the team for anything in QM

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 6:03 AM

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Team will always push or pull enemies out of Strike

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 6:03 AM

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^

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fo' real

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 6:04 AM

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I usually either go with a full push build on Aba in QM or a Monstrosity build

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 6:04 AM

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dagger build was so OP in tf tbh

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 6:04 AM

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Ijust go full snipe. or full combo. Depends on how frisky Im feeling.

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 6:04 AM

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with sylvanas

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 6:04 AM

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Yea shame that got gutted.

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 6:04 AM

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yup

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 6:05 AM

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If I’m feeling trollish I might pick that talent that turns enemy minions into friendly ones

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 6:05 AM

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posesion?

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 6:05 AM

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And just turn the frigging wave around lol

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I think so?

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 6:05 AM

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yea her level 7.

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 6:06 AM

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most hated hero?

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 6:06 AM

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genji

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hands down

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 6:06 AM

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Tracer

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 6:06 AM

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at least tracer can be punished for diving

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 6:06 AM

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im with butcher or samuro

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 6:07 AM

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I can eat Butcher with a Monstrosity at 40 stacks

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 6:07 AM

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man thats a bad butchy

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 6:07 AM

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Samuro’s not even a threat

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 6:07 AM

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AS I SPEAK

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THE DEVIL HAS APPEARED

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 6:07 AM

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I just walk by, wave, keep going

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 6:07 AM

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fuck me, genji vs nova

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 6:07 AM

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rip

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 6:07 AM

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You’re dead

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Samuro has to be one of the most meh heroes ever

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Nobody takes him seriously

sudden oak Mar 13, 2018, 6:09 AM

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and they all pay for it when he is annoying everyone at the same time

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 6:10 AM

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XD

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 6:13 AM

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Maiev, Illidan, Junkrat, Zagara, Genji.

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The most. Try hard team. Ive ever seen.

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 8:30 AM

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What if illidan picked up sargeras's philosophy

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 8:31 AM

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context?

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 8:38 AM

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Like, something causes illidan to work against the pantheon

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 8:38 AM

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No

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If they bring Illidan back a third fucking time

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That. Would be the worst thing.

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 8:41 AM

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so you came with a random "what if" without any reason? I think you are in a wrong discord channel, try Pyromancers discord, there are lots of ppl doing the same

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I think I will call it "Wanna be Pyro syndrome"

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 8:44 AM

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Well illidan has to be doing something unless he dies

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 8:45 AM

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He is. He's fighting Sargeras forever.

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That's his job.

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 8:45 AM

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ye, he will enjoy torturing Sargeras for eternity or untill Blizz changes his mind and bring some old characters back... but I'm not sure people would eat this bait again, once was ok, twice is too much

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I think they will just focus on other characters, they really have much to offer and they are new, not overused

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Illidan had his time, he even got redemption story, thats cool and I like it, but it's enough I think

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 8:48 AM

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Fair enough

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Something tells me sylvanas will be brought back to life by anduin or something

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 8:49 AM

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ye, next one will be Arthas

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sarcasm off

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what makes you think that?

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 8:50 AM

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Well that cinematic for one

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 8:52 AM

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what exactly?

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 8:53 AM

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Why would he. Sylvanas is straight up a villain

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If anything he should incinerate her body just to make sure

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 8:53 AM

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and I dont think you can bring undead back to "live" state

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and I dont think she would let him even if he could

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she is ok as she is, she wants to be immortal

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 8:54 AM

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I can see her banshee scream fade into a mortals cry

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It would be tragic

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 8:55 AM

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ye the enemy at the gates, destroying her home (again), definitelly she cries because she wants to be alive again and join Alliance

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sry man, but you should put more than just "feeling" into it

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 8:56 AM

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what?

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 8:56 AM

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what what?

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 8:59 AM

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I think my theory is sound I don't know what you mean by her wanting to join the alliance

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:00 AM

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sry that was just an addition to "Anduin will make her alive again"

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because thats why Anduin would do that or?

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if he would just want to kill her, he wouldnt be bringing her back to live

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 9:01 AM

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Yeah I don't understand why you would think Anduin would "bring her back to life"

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 9:02 AM

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Well it's too soon to say for sure why

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:03 AM

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sry, but if you state such theory, you must back it up with facts, reasons,...

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 9:04 AM

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ExpandingBrain

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 9:05 AM

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I don't think she's died 3 times yet

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:09 AM

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I guess you talk about Illgynoths whisper... but what leads you to believe that it talks about Sylvanas?

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it's not that clear and there are many other candidates

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actually, Sylvanas has already died 3 times I think

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Arthas kill, 2) suicide jump from ICC, 3) assasination in Silverpine Forest

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 9:14 AM

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Should've stayed dead after Silverpine.

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 9:15 AM

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What about the king of diamonds has been made a pawn

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:15 AM

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I dont know, I like her, but what shes doing now isnt my cup of tea, I hope it will change or they will explain or something

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 9:15 AM

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King of Diamonds is either Magni or Gallywix.

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:16 AM

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@jovial coral well, I think thats simple, Magni listens to Azeroth and tells us... if Old Gods managed to somehow influence Azeroth, for example force her a nightmare vision, she would tell Magni and he would tell us... making him a pawn

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I think that scenario Frightened World was on purpose of Old Gods, they wanted us to go to Argus and shut down Sargeras

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but thats just my guess

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hmmm, Gallywix? I think if he will play some bad role, he will do it on purpose, for money... so not really pawn by definition

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hes not really a good guy

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I would put him on similar place as Azshara, greedy and willing to do anything to get more

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so I wouldnt be surprised if he would go rogue

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 9:20 AM

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I can see gallywix dying

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:20 AM

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or that

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possibly by the hand of Saurfang 😄

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because that piece of s**t deserves that

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 9:23 AM

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Alliance will probably capture gallywix and instead of taking him prisoner like saurfang they'll execute him

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 9:23 AM

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Yeah, definitely Lawl

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:23 AM

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that would be stupid I would say, not funny

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 9:24 AM

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Sounds like an Alliance thing to do

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Executions HYPER

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:24 AM

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he isn't very popular or something, but hes still Horde race leader, letting him die like that would be a waste of opurtunity

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they could come with something better

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more dramatic

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 9:24 AM

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I mean besides enslaving the goblin player character

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Gallywix actually

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Hasn't done that many bad things

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Compared to others

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:25 AM

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well, hes still greedy gang leader and slaver

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maybe slaver isnt right word 😄

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dont remember

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 9:25 AM

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Yeah, and to goblins that's

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The ideal leader

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Goblins want that. It's what they like, it's why they respect him

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:26 AM

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maybe you are right

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 9:26 AM

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The reason the goblin PC goes against him isn't because they don't like him and want to make changes

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It's because Goblin society in and of itself revolves around pushing yourself and striving for achievement

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:27 AM

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ye they live mafia way

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 9:27 AM

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If the Goblin PC became Trade Prince, likely they'd do the same things Gallywix does

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:28 AM

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btw did you see Azerite war machine models? ali and horde look almost the same... accident? 😄

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 9:28 AM

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Arms dealers playing both sides isn't uncommon.

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:28 AM

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ye thats what Im pointing out 😃

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and thats why he could get a stab by Saurfang

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 9:28 AM

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I don't think Gallywix will betray the Horde

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His sin is pride, not greed. He wants to keep what's his, he's not looking to make more

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He already knows he's the richest man on Azeroth

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His short story says it himself. He has no desire to make more great quantities of wealth. He knows he's the biggestm

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But he won't let anyone "steal his cookie"

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If anything, Gallywix would crack down on any Bilgewater goblins trying to pull a fast one

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:31 AM

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those are the neutral ones ye?

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 9:32 AM

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No

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Bilgewater Cartel is Horde aligned

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Those are the playable goblins

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:32 AM

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ah ok

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 9:32 AM

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The Steamwheedle and Venture Co. are neutral

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As well as others

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:33 AM

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I forgot the name 😃

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 9:43 AM

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If Gallywix dies who will inherit his fortune

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 9:44 AM

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Me.

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 9:46 AM

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Are you his wife

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:47 AM

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I dont think he has wife, just a lot of prostitutes

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 9:49 AM

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Oh, I see.

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Maybe that's what gallywix needs, A wife.

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 9:55 AM

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hehe 😄 that would have to be a really tough girl 😄

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 10:08 AM

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Or guy

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 10:13 AM

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Gallywix needing a wife
Wife being the term for married women
Male wife

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Keeeek

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 10:16 AM

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hehe

jovial coral Mar 13, 2018, 11:13 AM

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Men can be wives

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 11:15 AM

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meowstop

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 11:27 AM

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"A wife is a female partner in a continuing marital relationship. A wife refers to a woman." via Wikipedia, k thx bye

tulip sun Mar 13, 2018, 11:31 AM

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It is tuesday...

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 11:33 AM

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ye, that means only 3 more days until weekend, cheers

tulip sun Mar 13, 2018, 11:33 AM

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and most likely a new build

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 12:58 PM

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BTW new vulpera UNIQUE animations and customizations have come out on wowhead

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and this is taken from the comments on said post Horde quests befriending them - We have quests on the Horde side helping to teach them Shamanism. Meanwhile Alliance are just shown to be murderin' them.
3. Cultural background of the Vulpera as an oppressed race - Aside from the Vulpera having cultural similaries to the Romani (who do not have the best of reputations), it's an in-game fact that the Sethrak are enslaving them.
4. Alliance being parked up with the Sethrak - An Alliance harbor camp deep within Sethrak controlled territory. They are working with Sethrak. And the Sethrak and Vulpera are enemies. Likewise, the Sethrak and Zandalari are enemies.

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:08 PM

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Alliance support a race that has slaves? Figures

tulip sun Mar 13, 2018, 1:09 PM

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O.o

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 1:09 PM

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And they say the Horde is evil

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:10 PM

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I know, hypocrites

carmine junco Mar 13, 2018, 1:10 PM

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makes me wonder if the alliance is tricked into helping, or what.

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:11 PM

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I doubt that, I dislike the alliance ( I still have some alts on them though) but they aren’t stupid

carmine junco Mar 13, 2018, 1:11 PM

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i mean, there are a few ally quests that I reaaaaallly side-eye, so it's possible that they're not

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 1:11 PM

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also vulpera shamans could be an interesting idea

carmine junco Mar 13, 2018, 1:11 PM

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(that quest in thousand needles with the centaurs and oil drilling being my main example)

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:12 PM

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I think they know

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They are dislikable, but not stupid

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Except with the blood trolls

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They are stupid there

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 1:16 PM

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Alliance are just mmmph

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 1:18 PM

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alliance are just HMMMMM

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 1:18 PM

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I'm hype as hell for the orcs being able to stand up straight

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:21 PM

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The horde has a great chiropractic plan

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:23 PM

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Alliance and the Sethrak just seems like a "we'll take all the help we can get kind of thing", or "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" kinda thing. Hypcritical? A little bit Lawl

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Fuck being hypocritical, I want snakeybois.

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:24 PM

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I’ll be honest I’m all for it, the alliance got shafted on 3/4 of their allied races

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But it still sounds like they are giving up their ideals to fight

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:25 PM

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I guess desperation can do that to you.

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:25 PM

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At least the way I see it, but I play horde so idk

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 1:25 PM

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what if Sethrak druids are the counterpart to Zandalari? there have been snake druids in the past,aka wailing caverns viper druids

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:26 PM

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Would make more sense to me that Vulpera would go to the Alliance, you know taking in the sick and wounded that kind of thing.

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 1:27 PM

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But horde help vulpera most

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:27 PM

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The Horde already has slavers, why not add another one? Lawl

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I mean, I'm pleased that we're getting Sethrak (potentially), but it just wasn't how I thought it was going to go in my mind vioSHRUG

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 1:28 PM

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Where has it been said we're getting them?

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:28 PM

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vioWUT

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 1:31 PM

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@hollow dock circumstantial evidence like in the post above

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no confirmation as of yet

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:35 PM

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Probably just an ally, not an allied race

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:36 PM

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Ally =/= allied race.

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ExpandingBrain

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:36 PM

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Like Ogres

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And Hobgoblins

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:38 PM

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So what you're saying is.

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:38 PM

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They are there, but not seen

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:38 PM

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Hobgoblin allied race confirmed.

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ExpandingBrain

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:39 PM

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They would only get Warrior, but whatever floats your boat

terse patrol Mar 13, 2018, 1:41 PM

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@sharp bluff points at varian being a slave in Orgrimmar

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sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:41 PM

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PoW vs Slave

terse patrol Mar 13, 2018, 1:41 PM

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horde dindunuffin

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:42 PM

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Never said horde was innocent lol

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:43 PM

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Gallywix doesn't have slaves, they're just minimum wage employees.

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ExpandingBrain

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 1:43 PM

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@terse patrol Points as saurfang being a slave in Stormwind

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:43 PM

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ohmygawd

terse patrol Mar 13, 2018, 1:43 PM

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he’s a POW

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lol

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:43 PM

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Gallywix I don’t count as a horde leader

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I don’t trust him

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:44 PM

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No one does.

terse patrol Mar 13, 2018, 1:44 PM

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If you wanted to make a sound argument, the Orcs were enslaved at the end of the Second War and made to repair all the damage they did.

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but then again

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they kinda deserved it lmao

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Fix the shit you broke.

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:45 PM

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Being facetious > Being serious.

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ameowthinkingsmirk

terse patrol Mar 13, 2018, 1:46 PM

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tbh, had Stormwind’s remnants voted to genocide the Orcs, Lordaeron and Stromgarde would have been the minority vote and there’d be no Horde today.

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But

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The Alliance chose to have mercy. 😉

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:46 PM

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Shame.

terse patrol Mar 13, 2018, 1:47 PM

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Genn and Kul Tiras wanted to kill them all.

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I can see where they come from though. The Orcs showed up, and the first thing they did was slaughter Stormwind then invade the north. They had no proof that they were more than just barbaric monsters.

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:48 PM

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Genn is the one I trust the least on Ally side so... I figured he would have voted kill them all before the wall

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:49 PM

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I hope Genn gets to kill Sylvanas ameowthinkingsmirk

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:49 PM

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A bloodthirsty king who let people die on his doorstep, even before the curse

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 1:49 PM

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for anyone wanting to gush out about vulpera or sethrak,there's an entire discord dedicated to this called vulpera hype caravan where you can fanboy about SNEKS and fox ppl

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:50 PM

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I'd rather fanboy over THICC humans.

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:50 PM

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He won’t Shumle, Voljiin said Sylvanis has a job to do still

languid yoke Mar 13, 2018, 1:50 PM

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her job is to die

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:50 PM

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I was gonna say that.

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Angery

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:50 PM

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She is already dead, got a better point?

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:51 PM

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Dead dead.

languid yoke Mar 13, 2018, 1:51 PM

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she isn't dead

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_>

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:51 PM

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Suffering in hell dead.

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ameowthinkingsmirk

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:51 PM

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Her, Saurfang, and.... well they are the only 2 left

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We already know Forsaken don’t go to hell

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They go somewhere worse

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:52 PM

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Ok.

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Suffering in hell that's not hell, but worse than hell dead.

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ameowthinkingsmirk

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:52 PM

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All DK also go there

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:53 PM

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Sucks to be undead I guess.

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:53 PM

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It really does

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 1:53 PM

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I would really like to know what you mean with "hell" in WOW 😄 because nothing in WOW is really religional like IRL

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so everything has an explanation

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:54 PM

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Helhiem lol

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 1:54 PM

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e.g. hell for Vrykul was Helheim

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but we didnt see any other creatures there

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so its most likely just part of their culture, not a general rule

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:55 PM

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Whatever the Warcraft equivalent is, shouldn't be that hard to piece together on your own, without taking "hell" literally.

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:55 PM

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It was mentioned when Syl jumped off ICC that Forsaken/DK have a personal realm of eternal pain waiting for them

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:55 PM

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cohhDerp

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 1:56 PM

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@vast roost ye I could imagine something, but that's what you can do IRL if you believe in that... but in WOW, nothing exists without explanation, so unless there is some evidence, it doesnt exist

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:56 PM

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@cinder knoll there was a walrus in there

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 1:56 PM

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walrus?

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:56 PM

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Poor walrus, I wonder what it did to end up in Helheim.

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:56 PM

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Tusken

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 1:56 PM

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ah that one

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:57 PM

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Tusken Raider from Star Wars?

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What's he doing there?

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ameowwhat

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 1:58 PM

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Typo

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Walrus guys

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 1:58 PM

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Tuskarr.

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Tusken is close enough.

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 2:00 PM

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just leaving this here https://lolsnaps.com/images/upload_pic/8980d05e-properly-organized-fox-storage.jpg

languid yoke Mar 13, 2018, 2:00 PM

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blessed fox stack

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 2:03 PM

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It auto corrects to my SWGoH chat stuff, sorry about that

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 2:09 PM

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@vast roost do you really want this? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/421004595972800515/422629515454447616/snekanim.gif

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 2:10 PM

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What do you mean.

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It's beautiful.

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strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 2:11 PM

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@vast roost https://imgur.com/YsBR5IK

Imgur

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 2:11 PM

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You don't have to tag me every time.

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 2:11 PM

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i have

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 2:12 PM

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Also, that's a good animation? vioSHRUG

terse patrol Mar 13, 2018, 2:12 PM

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http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc327/pixelissa/cowdiver2.jpg

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@strange falcon

vast roost Mar 13, 2018, 2:13 PM

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xd

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 2:13 PM

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https://i.gyazo.com/f5b7e1d7766f47cd03f77ba870fdb719.gif got a friendly talk for u

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 2:16 PM

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Where can I find that big daddy helm for my HM Tauren lol

terse patrol Mar 13, 2018, 2:17 PM

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check wowhead

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 2:21 PM

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I will it will , I’ll have to make reg Tauren pally for it

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And wonder the hubs

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 2:27 PM

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first they get worgens

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now big snake people

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doesnt seem very alliancey

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 2:27 PM

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worgens are humans

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they are not getting snake people yet

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and the emphasis is on YET, because they might get them, but also might not

languid yoke Mar 13, 2018, 2:29 PM

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the plural is not worgens, it's worgen

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 2:29 PM

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The snakes I'm going to need to see a female model of first

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 2:29 PM

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good to know, but I think I will forget it

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 2:29 PM

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Not a big fan of small fox people being a possible horde race either

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 2:29 PM

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The worgens need new models

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 2:29 PM

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They fit as a friend of the Tauren

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Who is teaching them shamanism?

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 2:31 PM

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dunno most of the horde knows shamanism

ancient smelt Mar 13, 2018, 2:31 PM

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Ahhhh cannot wait for BfA seriously. It'll be nice to have some new stuff to do.

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 2:32 PM

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New world quests you mean lol

terse patrol Mar 13, 2018, 2:32 PM

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https://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2018/january/SnakeLoa.jpg

cinder knoll Mar 13, 2018, 2:32 PM

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world quest isnt really a definition of activity, its just the way how the activity is served

terse patrol Mar 13, 2018, 2:32 PM

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@proud karma

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Kinda hoping we’re going to see some unique Dark Iron buildings.

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 2:33 PM

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What

terse patrol Mar 13, 2018, 2:34 PM

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what do you mean what

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Thats a pic of a Sethrak female

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 2:34 PM

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flat chested af

terse patrol Mar 13, 2018, 2:35 PM

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Well, do reptiles lactate?

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 2:35 PM

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Oh I wasn't even looking

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Ok, they're playable

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 2:36 PM

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If they gave the sethrak females a chest they would look as stupid as a female worgen

terse patrol Mar 13, 2018, 2:36 PM

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Protoss in SC have no boobs, because they have no mouths, thus no need to lactate for their kids. They literally subsist off of sunlight.

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https://i.warosu.org/data/tg/img/0427/35/1443373001682.jpg

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 2:36 PM

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They are plants

terse patrol Mar 13, 2018, 2:37 PM

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They’re not plants, but

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Similar

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 2:37 PM

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namekians lol

terse patrol Mar 13, 2018, 2:37 PM

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Females are defined by their slighter frames, more angular faces. Not by boobies.

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So that’s why female sethrak have no boobies.

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No need for them biologically.

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Naga have them because they used to be manmals.

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Mammals*

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 2:39 PM

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I think it would be fun if they used some other animals gender marker

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Like male sethrak have a big colorful crest or smth

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 2:40 PM

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female snakes are larger than male snakes irl

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 2:41 PM

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There we go

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Make em like goblins where females are bigger

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I'd even accept "They all look like that they're gynandromorphs"

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 2:44 PM

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I'm most excited just to be able to stand upright

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I'll be satisfied with that

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 2:46 PM

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As what?

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Orcs?

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 2:47 PM

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Mhm

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They look so much better like that

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 2:48 PM

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True

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Belf levels of smug

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 2:50 PM

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also proper hair styles on the maghar orcs

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 3:09 PM

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Protoss also breathe through their skin

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And communicate telepathically

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 3:18 PM

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So Namekians? lol

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 3:19 PM

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Idk what that is

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 3:20 PM

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Piccolo from Dragon Ball/z

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basically they are slug people, don't require food, and can fuse together

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 3:21 PM

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Ew

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 3:21 PM

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only really need sunlight and a small amount of water

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 3:21 PM

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Protoss can also fuse together lol

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To form Archons

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 3:22 PM

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When Namekians fuse they become stronger lol

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they can also become giant for a bit

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It is weird stuff

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 3:25 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_XwzBMTJaM

YouTube

StarCraft

StarCraft II: Legacy of the Void Opening Cinematic

The time of reclamation is upon us! Blizzard Entertainment is pleased to present the StarCraft II: Legacy of the Void opening cinematic. On November 10, 2015...

▶ Play video

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Here it shows two of them fusing to form an Archon

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1:44

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 3:48 PM

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Really similar lol

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 4:00 PM

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I mean. Archon is them turning into energy to become a being that isnt even a Protoss anymore.

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 4:02 PM

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And they can't separate after. IIRC they only last a certain amount of time before dying. And while they exist, they do so in agony.

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 4:02 PM

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Yup.

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 4:02 PM

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So, any hint of a new build? @uncut vault are the servers still up?

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When they take them down, that’s a good sign

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Usually

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 4:03 PM

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Im waiting for the one time that Blizz takes dowm the servers and they never come back.

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 4:04 PM

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One Day™

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Well Namekian stay slugs, but they can’t separate , but enough non wow talk lol

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 4:04 PM

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They fuse into stronger beings, but I wouldnt say theure similar to archons. :v

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Probably not lol

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Cuz they can seperate into two. See lord slug and Guru.

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And piccolo and kami.

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Oh no I meant base Protoss lol

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Well mostly mean dbz version of them

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 4:05 PM

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Both are from DBZ?

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 4:11 PM

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They are but the split piccolo kami thing was from Dragonball

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When they were just demons

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Indeed. So was Slug and Guru.

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theyve always been namekians.

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 4:14 PM

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They were demons in old Dragonball, got retconed to aliens in Z, Slug/Guru and Piccolo/Kami are special since namekians aren’t supposed to be able to split into two unique personalities

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 4:15 PM

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The retcon extends into DB tho. Thats how retcons work.

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 4:15 PM

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I know that is why I said they are exceptions

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Special cases

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 4:16 PM

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Supposed to and having the ability to are seperate things :v like fusing, namekians can seperate. Its just frobidden.

jade basalt Mar 13, 2018, 4:16 PM

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Feasel just retweeted his tweet from last week https://twitter.com/Muffinus/status/971086221446283265

Jeremy Feasel (@Muffinus)

It's Tuesday ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 4:16 PM

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Fuckin muffins

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He knows

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They all know

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 4:17 PM

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Lol weird

languid yoke Mar 13, 2018, 4:25 PM

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It's Tuesday, Tuesday
Gotta get down on Tuesday

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 4:27 PM

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Out. Theres the door.

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points to the door

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 4:34 PM

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yep, build incoming then

tropic trail Mar 13, 2018, 5:57 PM

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Vol'dun testing?

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Or beta access?

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find out in the next episode of developer Q&A

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:00 PM

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All I want is confirmation on the next set (or sets) of Allied Races 😐

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 6:05 PM

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Beta almost certainly won't happen this week

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:09 PM

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Admittedly, hard to think of what else he could announce

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 6:09 PM

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Not all Q&As have announcements, typically announcement Q&As are on tuesdays

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Truuue

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But last one coincided with pre orders

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Legion beta announcement was also on a Tuesday

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:10 PM

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And it's BFA Q&A instead of a general one

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 6:10 PM

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It would be nice but we aren't even to max level on the alpha

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:11 PM

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Truuue

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I was thinking more they announce a date for beta

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I mean, I'd rather they announce Allied Race stuff, but presumably beta is the question more people want to know 😛

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 6:12 PM

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Inb4 "announcing the next alliance allied race: slightly lower elves!"

languid yoke Mar 13, 2018, 6:12 PM

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I'm the most important person on this planet and I want allied race information

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next alliance allied race: elf humans

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:13 PM

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Half elves

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It'd just be nice if they confirmed Kul'tirans

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And vulpera

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And whatever the Alliance race alongside them will be

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 6:13 PM

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Half elfs, and half orcs

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:13 PM

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I still would not bet on half breeds

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Until they -really- run out of Allied ideas

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 6:14 PM

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It probably will be kul tirans, but would be interesting if the theory that they're waiting to announce it because it involves book spoilers

languid yoke Mar 13, 2018, 6:14 PM

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half murloc half vrykul

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vryloc

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:14 PM

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Eh, I can't imagine what spoiler there'd be from the book that relates to Allied Races

languid yoke Mar 13, 2018, 6:14 PM

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it will be the next big thing

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 6:15 PM

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did someone say murloc allied race?

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all for it

languid yoke Mar 13, 2018, 6:15 PM

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no, not murloc allied race

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vryloc

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:15 PM

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😐

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 6:15 PM

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Murloc Death Knights wooooooo

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 6:15 PM

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Kaldorei worgen and high elves are two possible tie-ins to the book 🤷

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:15 PM

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I suppoooose

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I really wouldn't bet on elf worgen either

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Even if it is lore appropriate

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 6:15 PM

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Malfurion or vereesa dying would be a decent catalyst

polar geode Mar 13, 2018, 6:16 PM

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ewww elf worgen gtfo

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Still think Vereesa is the dead elf in the Teldrassil art

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But

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I don't think Teldrassil is burning in the book

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Since they datamined stuff about the Horde attack on Darkshore

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 6:17 PM

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Seems more like flashback stuff than a scenario to me

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Since there's nothing involving scenario elements or an alliance perspective

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:17 PM

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Eh, a flashback seems kind of odd

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True

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But it's alpha and the full quest isn't in the files yet

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The Darkshore lines weren't even in the first few builds, iirc

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 6:18 PM

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Even if vereesa does die, I really hope they address why the two elves in the art look so drastically different

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:18 PM

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Art style

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And they had to pose her to be dramatically anonymous

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 6:19 PM

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It's more the matter of between the two pieces, she's the only thing that changes that dramatically

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Every branch, sword, and root in the art is the same, but the elf beside Sylvanas changes armor, skin color, and ear shape

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Loses the spears and arrows impaled in her

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:20 PM

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Thus she has to be someone important

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And it probably won't be Alleria

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Because they need her for the Void foreshadowing

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 6:21 PM

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Idk, I'd just really be disappointed if it was Vereesa. Alleria and Sylvanas both need no more drive to hate the horde, alleria needs no more drive to despise Sylvanas. It just seems like a useless death

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:21 PM

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Plus I really like the notion that Sylvanas comforted her in her death

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Instead of being all 'see you in five minutes sis'

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Well

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Every death in the faction war is ultimately useless

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That's the point

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And Alleria does need a push to outright hate Sylvanas

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She seems more shocked in the Argus lines

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And the SW bit says a meeting is coming, not a reckoning

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 6:22 PM

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are we saying sylvanas killed and ressed vereesa?

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 6:22 PM

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She kinda hates her already in the Silvermoon stuff

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:22 PM

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Until the Twilight's Hammer lures the Alliance and Horde to Teldrassil, sets it on fire, and Vereesa gets killed in the crossfire

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No

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 6:22 PM

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Doesn't even call her her sister anymore

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:22 PM

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I'm saying Sylvanas lets Vereesa die

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(hopefully)

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Vereesa's the perfect balance of relevant but not -too- relevant that she can die

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 6:23 PM

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I mean, assuming it is Vereesa changing her armor just for this, would be interesting actually having a relevant undead elf besides Sylvanas

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 6:23 PM

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well sylvanas is not the LK,her reanimated ppl have free will

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 6:23 PM

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New armor fits the dark ranger look

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:24 PM

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I'm assuming that Vereesa asks Sylvanas to let her die

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For maximum angst

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It'd be great

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But I can't imagine an entirely new character popping up in the WC3 nostalgia expansion

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 6:24 PM

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if she outright asked her,she would grant her wish ino

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 6:24 PM

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More why I think it'll be in the book. I'll be disappointed if she dies, but I trust Christie golden to write it well

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 6:24 PM

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*imo

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:24 PM

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I'd like to think so, yes

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That is fair

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Prayer circle for Golden

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 6:25 PM

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prayer circle happy

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Puts entirely too much expectation on the poor woman

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 6:26 PM

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she can do it 👌

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make sure to show her support on twitter

subtle flower Mar 13, 2018, 6:32 PM

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Oooh yay, the paladin evaluation, been looking forward to that.

meager warren Mar 13, 2018, 6:46 PM

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Christie Golden gets writer's block just before BfA's almost completely written. They pull back the release date

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 6:47 PM

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LOL

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 7:01 PM

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That's why they didn't hire GRRM

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 7:02 PM

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Grrm?

rich apex Mar 13, 2018, 7:02 PM

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George RR Martin

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Game of Thrones

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 7:02 PM

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Oh Mr. Martin. Right.

zinc sandal Mar 13, 2018, 7:06 PM

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Martini

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 7:21 PM

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Late but yeah, I don't envy golden her position

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When all eyes of this fan base are on you it's prob super scary

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What's the smallest change to the game do u think blizz could make that would stir up a fuss

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:22 PM

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Hey guys, ive started working on a musical composition inspired by Zandalar, and I was hoping to get your opinions. I made one for Legion two years ago, so I've started working on one again. I don't want to just post it if nobody is interested, so is anyone interested?

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:25 PM

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Ill listen

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:25 PM

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awesome - im still waiting for the MP3 to be made, and its only the first maybe 40 seconds or so

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apparently its actually 1 min

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but the last 20 seconds are very unfinished

plain vigil Mar 13, 2018, 7:29 PM

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Posibilities of Some Bolvar Sylvanas romance?

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:30 PM

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/rjkd0kpne662pgf/Visions of an Empire.wav?dl=0

Dropbox

Visions of an Empire.wav

Shared with Dropbox

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i cant directly upload

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b/c of files size

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-1000% gandem

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sylvanas already has a boy toy

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nathanos blightcaller

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:34 PM

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Nathanos is beautiful

ruby star Mar 13, 2018, 7:36 PM

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I'm still hoping Blizzard gives Alliance High Elves and Wildhammer Dwarves that would be sweet 😄

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:36 PM

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high elves wont happen

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alliance got void elves

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:36 PM

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blood elves literally are high elves

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:36 PM

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and IC high elves look too similar

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:36 PM

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too few high elves left

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:36 PM

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^ too

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:37 PM

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I will however take undead of multiple races

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not just humans

ruby star Mar 13, 2018, 7:37 PM

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I mean they might eventually have you seen the amount of Forum posts etc and Yes Blood Elves are High Elves, but I mean like high Elves from silver covenant etc 😄 and Void Elves are cool but they are still not like actual High Elves with the name High Elves etc

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:37 PM

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but it still isnt going to happen

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they look the same, there arent enough, and they just added two new elves

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:38 PM

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Not enough them alive to be a playable race

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:38 PM

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population is irrelevant

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:38 PM

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yes, it can be

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but excluding that

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:38 PM

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and the ones that are left are said to flock to the Velfs

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:38 PM

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other points can be valid but population has literally 0 bearing on playability

ruby star Mar 13, 2018, 7:38 PM

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They should at least give us a valid answer, positive or negative, because using the excuse Void Elves are a flavour of High Elves doesn't really cut it xD 😄

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:38 PM

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they have

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multiple times

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theyve said no

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people keep asking

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doesnt change what they said

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:39 PM

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they'll keep getting asked until we get a yes.

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:39 PM

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between having void elves and blood elves there is no point

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:39 PM

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^

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:39 PM

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everyone, including blizz, justh as to accept that.

ruby star Mar 13, 2018, 7:39 PM

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They said no about Vanilla, that eventually happened 😉

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:39 PM

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what?

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:39 PM

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They have though, and they even gave another reason in the Allied race patch, they even said that the High elves are joining the Velfs

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:39 PM

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you mean classic?

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it hasnt even happened yet

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:39 PM

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they added the vanilla so people would stop playing illegally

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:40 PM

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to our knowledge, there has been no work done

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it was just an announcement

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:40 PM

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Almost no High Elves left, and some of the ones that are left are now Velfs

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:40 PM

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two high elves in the race zone =/= all high elves

ruby star Mar 13, 2018, 7:40 PM

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Yes classic, yes I know that but they still announced that they are working on it now

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:40 PM

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and an entire gameplay style is not the same as a race

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:40 PM

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numbers mean nothing in WoW and they were plenty militant in Wrath and MoP.

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:40 PM

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It's in the Velf info....

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:40 PM

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it isnt, at all

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:40 PM

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yeah, its not in the velf info

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:40 PM

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they are adding so many damn races

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let it be enough

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:41 PM

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^

ruby star Mar 13, 2018, 7:41 PM

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I'm pretty sure not all High Elves would become Void Elves

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:41 PM

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Belfs and High elfs are flocking to the velfs

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not all

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but enough

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:41 PM

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theres zero reference to high elves in anything involving velfs aside from two npcs with generic lines

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:41 PM

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its why i dont expect there to be any more allied races outside of two for horde and two for alliance with BfA

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:41 PM

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Gimme my damn upright maghar orcs and ill be satisfied

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:42 PM

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that is happening

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and thats one orc variation

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:42 PM

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The ren'dorei's emergence attracted other blood elves and high elves to their cause.

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:42 PM

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we are up to 4 elf variations already

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:42 PM

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That is stated multiple times

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:42 PM

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too many elves

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:42 PM

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@sharp bluff where are you getting this from

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:42 PM

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source plox @sharp bluff

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:42 PM

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A lot of High Elfs are becoming Void elfs

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:42 PM

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i havent seen anything of that

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:42 PM

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source plox

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:42 PM

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^^^

ruby star Mar 13, 2018, 7:43 PM

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I am pretty sure there is more High Elves atm then their is Void Elves (I know theres not many High Elves left atm)

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:43 PM

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again

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:43 PM

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there are. But again, numbers mean nothing.

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:43 PM

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ignoring population

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there are too many other issues

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too many elves, they look the same

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etc

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it would literally be blood elves on the alliance

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:43 PM

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too many elves is a community issue.

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:43 PM

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at least they changed up nightborne to not be exact clones of night elves

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:43 PM

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not a blizzard one

ruby star Mar 13, 2018, 7:43 PM

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You could give High Elves Tattoos like Alleria etc

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:44 PM

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so then they look like blood elves with tattoos?

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:44 PM

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there are plenty of ways to make high elves different, It's just up to blizz if they want to.

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:44 PM

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you are missing the point

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:44 PM

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Blood Elves literally identical to High Elves

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:44 PM

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they would have to be significantly different

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and that would mean changing the lore

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:44 PM

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I'm looking for the exact source, why is it always so hard to find it when you need it?

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:45 PM

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because it isnt a thing

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:45 PM

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The high elves that exist have tattoos do to their profession

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:45 PM

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it wouldve been everywhere if it was

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:45 PM

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wowpedia doesn't have a link to the lines saying it so I gotta dig a bit

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The ren'dorei's emergence attracted other blood elves and high elves to their cause.

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Its in the game peach, deny it all you want

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:46 PM

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where

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find it

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:46 PM

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source plox

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:46 PM

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you cant just say something without a source

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that doesnt make it true

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:46 PM

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I haven't heard jack shit about this

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:46 PM

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I can say high elves are the next playable race confirmed, its in the game, deny it all you want

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doesnt make it true

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:46 PM

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^

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:46 PM

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It is in the bloody intro when you make a new one

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for sure

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:46 PM

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then show us

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:46 PM

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im looking for where else they said it

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:46 PM

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so go make a new one and show us

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:46 PM

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so callm your horses

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I'm on mobile dude, if I could play wow on my phone i would lol

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 7:47 PM

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I dunno why any elf would willingly choose to be a void elf

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There's a reason why void elves are all moody broody MCR fans

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The void sucks

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:48 PM

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if people can become traitors I can guarantee a lot of folks will call themselves "high elves"

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:48 PM

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I mean, I still dont understand how people dont get the simple thing about elves, and most races. Not every high elf stayed a high elf for the same reasons

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some stayed for magical purity, some stayed for alliance loyalty

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the latter might become void elves

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 7:49 PM

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And very very few high elves didn't get a case of green eye-glow

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 7:50 PM

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I mean unless you have a source that says the void elves are openly recruiting and voiding people up

wild pewter Mar 13, 2018, 7:50 PM

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There are definitely High Elves who became Void Elves

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 7:50 PM

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I can't believe you because everything we know suggests

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That the Void sucks ass

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It's a torturous and entropic existence

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:50 PM

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We've got locus walker teaching high elves about the void, but theres nothing anywhere about high elves flocking en masse to the void

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 7:50 PM

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^

wild pewter Mar 13, 2018, 7:51 PM

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Not en masse, but there are definitely those interested.

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 7:51 PM

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That's stupid. Anduin why the hell did you let these insane velves in.

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:51 PM

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just like with the original void elf band, its probably a very small number, because some people are bound to be interested

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:51 PM

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Realistically couldn't a blood elf just decide to be a high elf again

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:51 PM

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Politically, yes

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 7:51 PM

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Last thing we need is more people deciding that "hey that thing that has done nothing else but horrible and terrible bad things? Yeah let's dunk our heads into it."

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:51 PM

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and once the fel eyes wear off, probably visually too

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 7:52 PM

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I hate when people say "They were the group that meditated~" or whatever their reason is
Because they're not even really a group
When 90% of 90% of a whole civilization is gone it's not a case of "ohoho, I just ✨ chose ✨ to be better"

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 7:52 PM

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Blood Elves call themselves Blood Elves as a sign of remembrance for those who had fallen

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 7:52 PM

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Yeah

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They are the high elves

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:52 PM

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literally

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 7:52 PM

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The last couple blue eyes ones aren't a thing

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 7:52 PM

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Valeera Sanguinar is loyal to the Alliance ~~sorta~~ and still calls herself a Blood elf

wild pewter Mar 13, 2018, 7:52 PM

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"Under Alleria's guidance, as well as the tutelage and instruction of her own teacher, Locus-Walker, the void elves made strides in mastering their nature. They claimed Telogrus as their base of operations, and their numbers grew with the addition of blood elves and high elves who have ventured to seek them out, no longer fearing exile for the pursuit of knowledge."

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:52 PM

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She's also still loyal to Silvermoon. She's just a friend of the wrynns.

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:53 PM

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pursuit of knowledge

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not become a void elf

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 7:53 PM

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is that a wowpedia quote or an in game quote

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 7:53 PM

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(That being said yeah some are totally void elves)

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:53 PM

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not en masse, if that is what it sounded like I did not mean that, but some are definitely joining

wild pewter Mar 13, 2018, 7:53 PM

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Wowpedia, I'm not that good haha

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 7:53 PM

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(Because why not)

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:53 PM

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not all High Elfs will join

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 7:53 PM

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Not all but I'm sure a couple
This is blizz

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:53 PM

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There are too many elves

wild pewter Mar 13, 2018, 7:53 PM

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Ofc not but there are definitely some who have gone "Yeah I'm interested in learning about the void"

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:53 PM

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No quote other then this on wowpedia
The ren'dorei's emergence attracted other blood elves and high elves to their cause.

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:53 PM

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TOO MANY

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 7:54 PM

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That's insane. And here I thought Void Elves couldn't get dumber but nah let's just allow more people to become monstrous tentacle beasts

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:54 PM

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Velfs are openly recruiting, now to see how long before one goes crazy

wild pewter Mar 13, 2018, 7:54 PM

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But they're not monstrous tentacle beasts, they're like DH's for the void.

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 7:54 PM

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Yeah and DH's are barely trustworthy as it is

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:54 PM

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demon hunters go bad

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so can void elves

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:55 PM

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they are in a fight to control the void in them

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:55 PM

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all the elves are obsessed with stupid shit

proud karma Mar 13, 2018, 7:55 PM

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I just really don't get people who ask for high elves
The high elves have been playable since bc, just horde
You can hate and despise that fact but I'm always surprised when someone doesn't think that's what they were doing

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:55 PM

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its their nature

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:55 PM

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in before light corrupted paladins when?

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:56 PM

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Many have sought to harness the corruptive magic of the Void. Most who tried have fallen into madness. Determined to use this power for the good of Azeroth, Alleria Windrunner is the first mortal to succeed at defying the shadow's whispers. Coming to the aid of a group of her kin who nearly gave in to the darkness, Alleria has vowed to train these Void Elves to control the shadows within them and pledge their newfound powers to the Alliance.

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 7:56 PM

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they are not in control yet basically

ruby star Mar 13, 2018, 7:57 PM

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https://www.facebook.com/notes/legacy-of-quelthalas/the-alurna-manifest-of-high-elves/1772785739696244/

gritty idol Mar 13, 2018, 7:58 PM

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theyre a bunch of corrupted fucks on the brink of death

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 8:11 PM

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@uncut vault did you get a chance to listen?

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 8:12 PM

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I did, I like it, though there's an odd transition around 12-13 seconds in

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 8:13 PM

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yeah

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its still very WIP

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i dont expect it to be perfect, im not a pro

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but i expect it to eventually be good enough to win me another beta key

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the second part is going to be voldun themed

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and eventually im going to have a nazmir part

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and then i might throw in the new general wow theme in the background that has been in a lot of the music in legion

tulip sun Mar 13, 2018, 8:33 PM

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-waits silently for a new build-

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 8:36 PM

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been in the afternoon as of late

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 8:36 PM

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Lean, if warlocks are able to actively recruit and if the COUNCIL OF BLACK HARVEST, can still exist

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I think the world is OK on letting void elves do the same

teal fiber Mar 13, 2018, 8:39 PM

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Just because it does doesn't mean it shoulr

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 8:40 PM

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and then we get the trope of 'Stay away from our amazing tentacle abilities'

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'we said stay away'

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'alright fine since you got yourself in this mess. come on.'

wild pewter Mar 13, 2018, 9:07 PM

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Do we know if there's a build coming today?

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 9:13 PM

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Nope

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Just Muffins teasing us

tulip sun Mar 13, 2018, 9:22 PM

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There usually is one on tuesday

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But it is not a certainty

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 9:39 PM

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So. This is something that's bothered me about we adventurers for 13 years now.

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Do we just have multiple maps or a single incredibly marked up map? How do we pull it out underwater or in lava?

carmine junco Mar 13, 2018, 9:41 PM

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its magic, they aint gotta explain shit

uncut vault Mar 13, 2018, 9:45 PM

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One map and a really good eraser

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 9:45 PM

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really the map is in our mind,and the physical manifestation that the animations shows,is just that we memorized the map so well,it's strong enough to materialize as a physical object

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 9:48 PM

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Gnomes

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 9:53 PM

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so wait

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Dafire

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what are they makring

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when they tell us 'I'll mark your map'

strange falcon Mar 13, 2018, 9:57 PM

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they show you a real map,and mark it on that map

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and you remember it well

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like photographic memory

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or whatever it's called

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 10:02 PM

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or maybe

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you just get a map when you go to a new place

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and thats what discovering is when you fill out the map in the game

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either via magic

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or cartography

floral grotto Mar 13, 2018, 10:14 PM

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I think we're trying to explain something that isn't meant to be explained, because it's gameplay not lore.

hollow dock Mar 13, 2018, 10:14 PM

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it is lore as the characters always mention they mark your map

floral grotto Mar 13, 2018, 10:18 PM

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... that is a terrible justification.

sharp bluff Mar 13, 2018, 10:18 PM

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Magic gnomish maps, still waiting for it to explode

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Like a whiteboard made of paper

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The ever changing, ever expanding map of gnomish make, now with 99.9% less radiation

floral grotto Mar 13, 2018, 10:20 PM

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Just because some NPC says something about an object that's purely used for gameplay reasons, doesn't automatically make it part of lore.

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Do we have maps? Sure. But lore is still not gameplay.

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Gameplay maps =/= lore maps.

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Thus, you're trying to rationalize something that can't be rationalized due to gameplay.

dense plover Mar 13, 2018, 10:33 PM

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^

uncut vault Mar 14, 2018, 12:21 AM

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we also used to not get quite so much marked on our maps, and actually had to find out what was going on

strange falcon Mar 14, 2018, 12:23 AM

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#vanilladays

rich apex Mar 14, 2018, 12:44 AM

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Looking up quests on Thottbot because quest text was so vague

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#justvanillathings

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Only 90s kids remember Thottbot

strange falcon Mar 14, 2018, 12:45 AM

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trying to triangulate what to do or npc locations because thottbot wasnt enough

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#justvanillathings

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asking in tradechat for help with quests when all else failed #justvanillathings

rich apex Mar 14, 2018, 12:47 AM

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Having to run back to Stormwind to LFG because the channel was only capitals-wide and not worldwide

dense plover Mar 14, 2018, 12:47 AM

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meanwhile im here remembering legion because it was the shit 😛

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seriously though, i started at the end of wrath

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and while the talent trees were dumb, i like putting points in things

rich apex Mar 14, 2018, 12:47 AM

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The only good thing about vanilla in hindsight

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Was the AQ War Effort

strange falcon Mar 14, 2018, 12:47 AM

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vanilla was only ever good because it was 2004

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and now everyone has nostalgia glasses

dense plover Mar 14, 2018, 12:48 AM

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i would love to see something like artifacts become permanent where every level you get a point and can put it in whatever, and by max level, you have filled the whole thing out

rich apex Mar 14, 2018, 12:48 AM

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Exactly

tulip sun Mar 14, 2018, 12:48 AM

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V.v

dense plover Mar 14, 2018, 12:48 AM

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i just want to put points in things

rich apex Mar 14, 2018, 12:48 AM

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Talent trees are great, except there's only one acceptable way to spend talents

dense plover Mar 14, 2018, 12:48 AM

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it makes leveling up feel good

tulip sun Mar 14, 2018, 12:48 AM

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I am getting worried there may not be a build today, haha. I wanted some news

dense plover Mar 14, 2018, 12:48 AM

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which is why im saying it doesnt matter how you spend them

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b/c by max level, just like with artifacts, the entire tree is full

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you just get to choose while leveling

strange falcon Mar 14, 2018, 12:49 AM

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you mean like the new pvp talents system?

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with the 5 slots

rich apex Mar 14, 2018, 12:50 AM

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Alas, no perfect progression system

dense plover Mar 14, 2018, 12:50 AM

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artifacts were pretty good

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im suggesting essentially the same system, but a point per level

strange falcon Mar 14, 2018, 12:50 AM

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excluding the infinite grind you needed to be even close to competitive they were good

dense plover Mar 14, 2018, 12:50 AM

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and at max level, the points are all filled out

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except if you start an artifact now, that grind isnt there

rich apex Mar 14, 2018, 12:51 AM

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I still never felt like progressing the grind actually led to any noticeable different

strange falcon Mar 14, 2018, 12:51 AM

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duh

rich apex Mar 14, 2018, 12:51 AM

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Of course, I'm not a top tier raider

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But being a top tier raider is supposed to be hard to keep up with regardless

strange falcon Mar 14, 2018, 12:52 AM

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it's not too hard unless you're running for worldfirst

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it just consists of "dont be shit on raid night" and keeping up by doing wqs and stuff

rich apex Mar 14, 2018, 12:53 AM

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Like the whole point of it was to be a functionally infinite grind

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And thus you're always able to progress

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They weren't expecting you to -actually- infinitely grind

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It's literally not worth the effort

strange falcon Mar 14, 2018, 12:53 AM

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they underestimated people

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xD

rich apex Mar 14, 2018, 12:54 AM

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It's just an added perk to always get something nominally valuable from your instances/BGs/dailies

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But that is fair 😛

sharp bluff Mar 14, 2018, 1:07 AM

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Oh little foxes fly on buzzards nice

steel venture Mar 14, 2018, 1:08 AM

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now

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sethrak customization.

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when