maybe tied to one of the endgame factions
#beta-ptr-spoilers
dense plover
ending with the return of the prelates
all of this occuring before zandalari actually are playable ofc
dense plover
yes
hollow dock
all loa are considered Wild Gods
uncut vault
but the animal loa are
dense plover
all loa are wild gods except for maybe bwonsamdi
heavy cairn
g'huun for example is considered a loa
dense plover
maybe
teal fiber
All Wild Gods are called Loa by trolls, but not all loa are wild gods
dense plover
no he isnt
proud karma
They're all loas
teal fiber
Hakkar is not a Wild God
hollow dock
G'huun is considerd an old god.
dense plover
ghuun is not considered a loa
proud karma
Night elves are trolls that got confused
dense plover
but in the sense he is an old god experiment gone wrong
teal fiber
And Bwonsamdi is also not tied to nature
proud karma
And then became snooty
dense plover
and people dont know the difference
and hakkar was just a big snake
and then he drank blood
proud karma
And then summoned the legion
dense plover
and it fucked him up
uncut vault
but they pulled an illidan with rezan, spirit torn from his body and lingering out there
teal fiber
"G'huun is a being worshiped by the blood trolls of Nazmir as a loa, and referred to as the Blood God"
dense plover
as a loa
hollow dock
Hakkar is considered a 'wild god'. All loa are considered 'wild gods'. Maybe not on the same level as say. malorne.
teal fiber
"Loa" just means
dense plover
doesnt make him one
uncut vault
as someone whos played through Nazmir, they never once call him a loa
uncut vault
dont know where that quote is from
teal fiber
Whatever a group of trolls worship
dense plover
loa is a classification of wild gods from trolls
heavy cairn
I see. the quote isn't from any credible source
dense plover
read chronicles
hollow dock
^@peach
uncut vault
he is always referred to as the Blood God or "their god"
proud karma
It's like "not all rectangles are squares"
The wild gods are the loas that the nelfs kept worshipping
dense plover
and worshipping something as something doesnt make it that thing
hollow dock
and I believe recently NPCs refer to it as an old god.
uncut vault
We learn from a Titan Keeper that hes an old god
proud karma
All the wild gods are nice naturey ones
heavy cairn
this is the alpha, you can't say definitely
proud karma
But they sure as heck weren't made by the moon
uncut vault
(though hezrel should be called a titan watcher, so blizzards naming practices are probably in question anyways)
dense plover
theres the 1% blizzard pulls some bullshit
heavy cairn
1%? lol, they never do what people expect
dense plover
but in all liklihood, ghuun is not actually an old god
hollow dock
Legion ended exactly as I expected.
dense plover
it was discussed at blizzcon as a titan experiment gone wrong
hollow dock
I subscribe to peaches theory that it was made to eat the old gods
and gained sentience cuz old god blood
proud karma
That would be neat
heavy cairn
I don't dispute the fact that it is was a titan experiment, but it could be an old god that was experimented on
hollow dock
It can't have been.
proud karma
But yeah, "wild god" isn't a special class or anything, just a name
hollow dock
only 4 landed on Azeroth.
heavy cairn
the chronicle says 4 landed on the main continent of azeroth
proud karma
Blizz has done stupider
hollow dock
And Zandalar was apart of Kalmindor
proud karma
They pulled pandaria outta nowhere
hollow dock
They hadn't
proud karma
Like "Oh u just didn't see that"
hollow dock
it's been apart of the game since WC3
teal fiber
2018
hollow dock
No, you're told it exists.
proud karma
I like pandas!
uncut vault
Im assuming that its the titans trying to go all demon hunter on the old gods and fight fire with fire, but the fire just made more fire
hollow dock
Who woulda thought that ey Port
sharp bluff
Watch Murlocs be Titan experiments lol
hollow dock
They aren't. We know they've come from the depths of the seas.
dense plover
Read chronicles it discusses this
hollow dock
Because of Pyromancer, people dont think Chronicles is credible of a source
proud karma
Oh dear then what is
dense plover
Essentially we have to assume they are telling the truth in those books and there are only 4 old gods
There is no reason to believe chronicles isn’t true
Just like argus is not a “titan of death”
hollow dock
Pyro put the idea into peoples heads that 'Chronicles might be only written from the titans pov and thus biased'
uncut vault
we already know murlocs arent titan experiments because titan experiments turned some of them into jinyu
dense plover
yeah
teal fiber
My only hope is that with Chronicles we can see more humans that aren't different shades of European represented in-game
dense plover
Pyro is an idiot
hollow dock
He's diet Mat Pat
dense plover
^
uncut vault
his argus/sargeras theory always makes me cackle
teal fiber
Since Chronicles made it canon that there's a human society in Stranglethorn
dense plover
It’s so dumb and wrong
teal fiber
One that's apparently been there for some time
dense plover
Don’t think so
hollow dock
What was it called Lean?
uncut vault
@teal fiber if it helps, most kul tiran NPCs and nobles use the black skin tone
dense plover
Pretty sure it was trolls
uncut vault
blizz still isnt brave enough to have important characters with it but
teal fiber
Chronicles explicitly states
uncut vault
most NPCs are dark skinned on kul tiras
teal fiber
Humans live in Stranglethorn
dense plover
Link plz?
uncut vault
it wasnt in chronicles, it was in traveler iirc
dense plover
I don’t remember there being anything outside booty bay
proud karma
I've heard of the stranglethorn humans
Saw an old as heck net archive of the blizz site saying it
hollow dock
Oh that's the traveler
teal fiber
Still canon so
dense plover
That doesn’t go back far thougj
uncut vault
former pirates that made a society in Stranglethorn
hollow dock
Oh
dense plover
Booty bay is there
hollow dock
Yea that's. that's not that old.
dense plover
And there is a small pirate base which probably is not to scale
teal fiber
Well
meager warren
There will come a day when pandas are no longer demonized in Warcraft.
Today is not that day.
proud karma
No like
Ah forget it
dense plover
Just like booty bay isn’t to scale
teal fiber
They've apparently lived long enough in Stranglethorn to have their own customs, traditions, and naming customs
dense plover
So 100-200 years?
teal fiber
"Humans are known to live in Stranglethorn. This seems to be where they get their black skintones, as well as African-styled names. They have their own deep-rooted traditions and customs, and suffered the assault of the Horde during the First War just like Stormwind. Most seem to live in or around Booty Bay these days and find work as pirates or hired hands. It's Stranglethorn tradition to remove the wounding items (such as arrows) from a deceased friend, "For how could a soul rest if he must carry the cause of his death with him forever?" Also, for all humans, ogres tend to prefer eating you alive since you're fresher, but if they had to cook you, they'd keep the blood inside your carcass for more flavor."
Sure. 200 years is good enough time to make a society.
dense plover
Unique cultures can develop in a mere 4 generations
meager warren
black humans are in WoW?
meager warren
they must be a rarity
proud karma
Yes
Not well done of course
hollow dock
Black humans have been in WoW[.
meager warren
you'd be wise to think that
dense plover
They are trying to show it better in game in BfA
proud karma
That would be nice
teal fiber
Asian humans also exist too. Only problem is Blizz rarely ever if at all represents them in-game
But yeah BFA might change that
Hopefully
dense plover
Thin humans and Kul Tirans both have a dark skin tone
proud karma
European fantasy ripoffs of Tolkien never impress me
Unless you're Tolkien
Or his son I guess
uncut vault
like I said, the dark skin tone is used a hell of a lot in Kul Tiras, especially with generic nobles
meager warren
Almost all fantasy fiction these days are ripoffs of Tolkien
hollow dock
the funny thing is that supposedly Tolkiens works were also a ripoff
meager warren
then again
sharp bluff
Well considering humans in WoW are all descended from mutated Vrykul
proud karma
And he's the only one I'll tolerate it from
hollow dock
I guess Im the only one who doesnt care about representation and cares only about well written, fleshed out characters. :v
sharp bluff
^
proud karma
Other folk need to do something else and spare me the British accents
HA
HAHAHAHA
Uther
dense plover
Good writing is difficult without representation
proud karma
Varian
Etc
So
So fleshed out, so unique
meager warren
Humans: "Got short?"
Trolls and Tauren: "Humans are descended from vrykul? That's one messy deevolution."
sharp bluff
Not really peach
hollow dock
if it happens n aturally, sure I guess. that's pretty cool.
dense plover
Part of a good story is having people you can relate to
proud karma
Amen
sharp bluff
I agree with Vris here
teal fiber
I don't see what the point of them being descended from vrykul has to mean
Since there are black vrykul
hollow dock
But you can make a great story with little to no representation. Look at Star Wars.
meager warren
Star Wars wasn't a great story.
It was set in a great setting but wasn't a good story
dense plover
If nobody looks like you, it can feel less immersive and can create a negative bias towards that medium in your subconscious
meager warren
the point was, humans got short
hollow dock
I gotta be messed up then cuz very few people ever look like me
proud karma
It's a valid phenomenon
hollow dock
I dont deny it
uncut vault
yeah but well thought out, well written characters can also be diverse
dense plover
It’s about 50/50
proud karma
I'll get citations if you'd like when I'm not on my phone
sharp bluff
Peach you sound like one of the guys who was mad Kingdom Come was only white people
heavy cairn
yes I can understand that phenomenon
hollow dock
I never said they can't. I just said I dont care about it
heavy cairn
I'm curious if a similar situation happens if for example you play a pandaren but there are no pandaren in the expansion
uncut vault
Lucille Waycrest or Lady Ashvane dont need to be generic black haired white girls.
proud karma
Thimes, why are u so offended
uncut vault
Especially since all the other nobles in kul tiras are dark skinned, and Ashvanes PH model was dark skinned
dense plover
So the people playing that aren’t represented are probably the 50% that don’t care plus some who love the gameplay enough to overlook it
teal fiber
Kingdom Come is a bad game anyway Also medieval europe had black people
dense plover
G2g, be back later
hollow dock
I think I'll just stop talking. Every passing comment I make is turned into an argument
proud karma
I'm just sick of people leaning on Tolkien for soooooo many years
Do something else
Base your fantasy on anything else at all
Ya lazies
hollow dock
like what
uncut vault
coughgivemedarkskinnedelvescough
uncut vault
thats the one thing blizz kept about tolkein elves and it still bothers me
hollow dock
It can't be helped because of how much base he covered
sharp bluff
I base my fantasy of Robert Jorden
heavy cairn
[porter] nightfallen playable race 🤔
uncut vault
begone th0t
heavy cairn
withered can't really be playable, and actually they have light skin
proud karma
Anywhere else on earth during that time period
heavy cairn
a lot of nightfallen have dark skin
uncut vault
I more mean actual dark skin, not "im purple" dark skin
sharp bluff
Your get your not colored orcs (green) soon enough
proud karma
Not what color
teal fiber
proud karma
Ah
teal fiber
I could use me an elf like that
uncut vault
I still hold out hope that its dubiously canon, since chronciels states they got human skin tones, and they live in a freaking land of eternal summer.
hollow dock
I really want to make a joke
proud karma
Cute art!
hollow dock
but I think I'd be crucified for it
teal fiber
Source is Uzlolzu
proud karma
I mean go on
uncut vault
dark skinned elves from things like dragon age + the actual good looking elf qualities of WoW = 👌
strange falcon
dew it pussy
hollow dock
That elf looks like he's about to ask 'Y'all ready for some black magic'?
proud karma
Just don't get all offended if I don't love it
sharp bluff
That’s funny lol
heavy cairn
proud karma
But to answer you, I didn't have a particular country in mind I guess
sharp bluff
Wow is a race war so...,
proud karma
Just no more British accents I'm dying
proud karma
Euro accents who cares
heavy cairn
to be fair zep, it's just a faction war, but it just so happens that almost every member of every race stays with their faction for some reason
uncut vault
Im still happy that they didnt just do more Jamaican accents in zandalar
teal fiber
http://uzlolzu.tumblr.com/post/129930334152/its-been-a-while-since-i-made-any-comics-and-ive#notes In particular, I quite like this
proud karma
Yeah god the hokey Jamaican accents
heavy cairn
jeez that's a big embed
proud karma
So awful
teal fiber
I used to frequent a LOTRO discord and boy did I get into
So many arguments
For standing up for people roleplaying as Haradrim
uncut vault
tfw Shadow of War now has friendly haradrim in gondor :^)
hollow dock
I mean. I dont see why they shouldn't
sharp bluff
Almost like wows
hollow dock
they disbanded when Sauron was killed.
teal fiber
Yeah that's the point. There was a lot of LOTRO roleplayers who were just
Rabid chomping at the bit that
"No all Haradrim are evil you have to play white people" and it's like
hollow dock
Unless they were actually being disrespectful/offensive with it
which I know a lot of panda rpers were when they first came out
uncut vault
expecting tolkien fans to accept anything outside strict canon was your first mistake
teal fiber
Funnily enough
hollow dock
Much of Harad's impressive army was wiped out on the expanses of Pelennor Fields, during the Battle of the Pelennor Fields, in which Harad's forces amassed one of the greatest legions their land had ever seen, containing many thousands of men, all armed with bows, spears or the reins of the Mûmakil. With Sauron defeated, many Harad peoples sent emissaries to the court of King Aragorn, and peace talks began; however, many other Haradrim tribes continued hostility with Gondor.
Its within their own canon tho
teal fiber
Tolkien himself described Samwise, and the hobbits in general, of being "swarthy" and having curly hair
But far be it from them to accept that to mean anything else than a light tan
proud karma
I mean if people argue that Tolkien wasn't your standard level of "british guy in 1930s england" then they're too delicate to exist
sharp bluff
Well there were good colored people in Lotr, but they lived in the forests and were tribal
They don’t know the lore
hollow dock
I'll never understand people
proud karma
People like, to argue
(Which I just realized might sound like I'm mad at u, I'm not. I'm agreein)
sharp bluff
Nice shoulders...
teal fiber
I rather miss when shadow/soul magic was more ambigous in morality
As opposed to Legion just
"No actually it's all old gods. All of it."
"Fuck the Auchenai"
uncut vault
well this guy seems like an arcane kinda soulpriest
uncut vault
uses mogu magic and is a ship builder
uncut vault
paladin class hall still makes me mad
teal fiber
Because it can do nothing less than screw over every other race that doesn't get chosen to be "iconic"
uncut vault
"hurr liadrins teaching us sun worshippers about the light because reasons"
proud karma
that TOO
proud karma
im not really sure what it accomplished tbh
less lore is easier to write, I... guess?
teal fiber
Warrior class hall should have just
Been one big barracks
They didn't need valhalla magic and asshole odin
Warriors were cool because they didn't need divine blessings or any sort of magical stuff
I never leveled Shaman either but
I heard their class hall is just
Terribly ugly compared to everyone else's.
Just one big damp cave
leaden garden
@teal fiber That's actually what I had hoped/thought the Warrior class hall was going to be. A large barracks where you and other faction generals banded together to lead Azeroth's armies
A coalition of all the armies, warriors, and soldiers of Azeroth putting aside their flags for a moment to fight the bigger threat, which would've been WAYYYY cooler, I think, than the Halls of Valor shit
uncut vault
tfw paladin class hall had weapons on the wall and training areas
warrior class hall was literal heaven with holy angels
teal fiber
Priest class hall is one big Naaru fest
Cus that's what everyone worships right? Wind chimes?
uncut vault
honestly the worst thing for me was zabra hexx
sharp bluff
DK hall didn’t change....
leaden garden
I had hoped your warrior would be the General "Chosen" by both factions to lead the armies of Azeroth. Which I think would have increased the awesome factor of who you are. You've not only been chosen to lead all armies against the legion, you were chosen by BOTH factions as a warrior of great renown and prowess. Even your "enemy" faction has to admit you're such a damn good Warrior that they're willing to follow you into battle
uncut vault
Well, funnily enough, the hunter PC seems to be the old garrison general
cause its the only hall with NPCs that use the old garrison pokes and refer to them as commander
hollow dock
Wouldn't surprise me
proud karma
Zabra was a crime
They made everything naaru and holy light except him
What the heck
hollow dock
Dreanor was almost pure wilderness
So putting a person of the wilds in command seems reasonable
meager warren
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/821ebt/conspiracy_theory_of_the_day_thrall_is_a_woman/dv71tce/
look at the irony of this.
there are downvotes on it.
uncut vault
thats just how reddit works
meager warren
kek
uncut vault
if you talk about downvotes, you get downvotes
meager warren
How reddit works...
*If you complain, you get downvotes
*If you don't complain, you get downvotes
*If you talk about upvotes, you get downvotes
*If you talk about downvotes, you get downvotes
*If you don't talk about downvotes, you get downvotes
*If you breathe, you get downvotes
meager warren
if ur in a existential crisis, you get downvotes
http://prntscr.com/iqd24y
@hollow dock This is us
rich apex
Complaining gets you downvotes?
meager warren
yes
rich apex
Isn't the most upvoted post in Reddit's history complaining about Battlefront 2?
meager warren
idk.
but the most downvoted post in Reddit's history is EA defending their scamming
uncut vault
The intent is to provide redditors with a sense of pride and accomplishment for downvoting comments.
meager warren
omg stop
meager warren
rich apex
Point was more Reddit is full of nerds whining about one thing or another 😛
gleaming light
these aren't bfa beta spoilers
gleaming light
just a buncha peeps complaining about reddit
meager warren
and?
gleaming light
i think maybe complain in the general offtopic channel?
since it's... generally off topic?
meager warren
is it worse than the borken shore?
strange falcon
tomb of Soakgeras was better tho
meager warren
kek
hollow dock
The thing is Tweak, as I've said, there aren't any spoilers for the squatters like me and Edgy to talk about
Come back when there is new spoilers being revealed for those talks! Or ask for some yourself. @gleaming light
strange falcon
i think it's too late already,your reputation is tarnished
plain vigil
Soooo we doing beta tuesday or a week from tues?
uncut vault
beta wont be out until all the basic content is
alpha is making sure everything works, beta is balancing
dense plover
^
rich apex
in before beta announcement at the end of the livestream on Thursday
(probably not tho)
Because they've only got two zones up in alpha, right?
Er, four zones
Two for each continent 😛
dense plover
We are still missing two zones, 7 dungeons, the Azerite system, the island system, warfrontd
World quests
Factions and their currencies and rewards
Other continent faction stuff
And a whole fuckton of assets
There were more weapon models at legion launch than in alpha right now
rich apex
Who cares, I want to know what the Alliance counterpart will be 😛
Because vulpera have super definitely been confirmed
dense plover
Alliance do go to voldun
But I don’t think they will be allied
That would mean 10 new races in one expac
That’s insane
Altoholics would die
uncut vault
vulpera are a horde specific faction anyways
it would be COOL to have sethrak but I doubt it
hollow dock
I thought recently the Vulpera lost their horde flag
uncut vault
the faction I mean
dense plover
I think they did
uncut vault
Voldunai
rich apex
But it sure does seem 75% likely of Horde vulpera
uncut vault
if they do become playable theyll probably be the highmountain of 9.0
dense plover
^
proud karma
buuut theres so many other horde things i want
dense plover
This is the only place I see them if at all
dense plover
I’m going to keep sticking with my theory of 8 new races is enough
meager warren
Horde is getting Mag'har and Zandalari Trolls.
dense plover
Yep
uncut vault
oh for BfA 8 is more than enough
dense plover
We so good
uncut vault
gotta save those last four slots for other xpacs
dense plover
Horde gets a dinosaur city
uncut vault
btw when I said hordes turn, I more meant hordes turn to get a random brand new race instead of highly requested old ones
dense plover
What do you do for new players?
teal fiber
Or some shit
rich apex
New players are starting BFA at 110 like we are
And then started a new Allied Race at 20 like we are
dense plover
....
uncut vault
dense plover
For unlocks
uncut vault
gimme junker gnomes with leper skin options
meager warren
NO SUCH THING AS TOO MUCH
uncut vault
if arakkoa ever become an allied race (which they probably wont) theyd likely go horde
just have more in common
teal fiber
they will never give us Arrakoa
rich apex
^
proud karma
they better let us get bfa stuff in bfa
rich apex
Arakkoa are super left field
hollow dock
If you guys get Feeple
proud karma
it's just a horrendous strategy to sell someone something they won't get
meager warren
people said that we'd never get Mag'har orcs but, there they are.
In the Horde
rich apex
Mag'har are literally the most obvious sub/allied race
hollow dock
the bitties
proud karma
imagine sub numbers if getting a demon hunter required getting WoD rep
rich apex
A new race is not a new class
jovial coral
I can see Vrykul coming in many forms
rich apex
And you're already farming BFA rep for the usual reasons
proud karma
its a metaphor
hollow dock
There's no friendly Vrykul left tho D=
proud karma
i mean legion rep
uncut vault
new race doesnt change gameplay
uncut vault
it just makes you look pretty
rich apex
Hey fam no offense
proud karma
fine imagine if pandas needed cata rep
hollow dock
Im with port. I dont understand why people complaining about the rep thing
hollow dock
These aren't full fledged races
meager warren
"yall feisty"
Is in spoilers channel
hollow dock
these are minor shittily worked on races
proud karma
im not sayin that
rich apex
And races that you can play during Legion'
s' lifespan
Are unlocked with Legion reps
proud karma
im saying someone who buys bofa when it comes out should get their sparkle elves
hollow dock
Meant specifically to just add in diversity. It can't get more 'Get it if you want to get it. It doesnt' change anything'
rich apex
Legion reps that Blizz expects you to have done already
hollow dock
^
meager warren
^
proud karma
im new
hollow dock
And if you're a returning player, that doesn't matter.
if you're new
that doesn't matter
proud karma
i dont even have world quests
hollow dock
you gotta work it like every other past expac
rich apex
You've got eight months to get them
hollow dock
^
meager warren
^
hollow dock
You got a lot of time
proud karma
im level 98
rich apex
And once BFA launches, they're old content
rich apex
I gotta run my ass to Draenor if I want Draenor cosmetics
proud karma
luckily i dont care about any of the legion ones
uncut vault
I swur if I see maghar orcs complaining about "all our cool gear is locked behind garrison stuff"
proud karma
so hopefully i can get diron and zan when it comes out
rich apex
The entire WoW model is chasing the carrot
meager warren
i'm attrocious at the game and it took me just 4 or so months to get exalted with all legion reps
teal fiber
I mean can we really call Arrakoa left-field when
Horde is straight up going back to time-travel land
And picking up those orcs
rich apex
Mag'har were an obvious choice
proud karma
eh, it's still a bad marketing strategy
strong python
we need more classes
teal fiber
Conveniently forgetting what orcs are left on Outland
rich apex
And going to Draenor means we get the clan skins
teal fiber
Yeah but again
rich apex
Clan skins which technically do not exist in Outland
teal fiber
You're saying Arrakoa are left-field but why are they left-field
Because they're in AU Draenor?
Well
uncut vault
I mean, the draenor orcs and council of exarchs were explicitly set up for "we'll come back when the plot wants us to"
teal fiber
We're going back to AU draenor
hollow dock
Because they aren't aligned with anyone specifically
jovial coral
Kvaldir
rich apex
Because they're not already tied to a faction
proud karma
you should be like "buy this game look it has sparkle elves!!!"
rich apex
And one of the most obvious subrace choices
hollow dock
Like the Vulpera
rich apex
Like Mag'har
hollow dock
they just suddenly turn to one side
rich apex
And already an established model
Arakkoa need a whole new model
But boi do I want kvaldir
rich apex
There'll be subtle hints of them establishing ties more towards one side
uncut vault
zandalari join Horde, hey we should probably not oppose ourallies
rich apex
And then the Alliance players will cry betrayal
meager warren
About orcs on Outland...
*They're only one skin color
*They're no longer a proud and honorable race. The legion killed that.
*Mag'har means uncorrupted
*There's only a handful of mag'har in Outland compared to the swarms of Mag'har in WoD's Draenor.
proud karma
im just surprised that the crash bandicoots are getting shiny new models when actual goblins arent yet
hollow dock
They are tho
uncut vault
orcs on outland only being one color was less canon and more blizz didnt make more than one color back then
rich apex
Goblin model's fine anyways
meager warren
Crash Bandicoots?
proud karma
YET
hollow dock
Goblins are getting tweaks
proud karma
YET
hollow dock
same time as Worgen get their new model
proud karma
you villain
hollow dock
cuz the worgen model is ACTUALLY BROKEN
meager warren
tf's a crash bandicoot
rich apex
But obviously they're gonna put some actual work into these shiny new NPC races
proud karma
its an insult to the foxes
rich apex
Because expansions are supposed to look pretty
uncut vault
proud karma
lol
uncut vault
hoping the left is like tortollans, hearthstone team hinting at the new model stuff
hollow dock
Granted there should be a disclaimer
ones art and thus able to do as it pleases without any restrictions on the games engine
teal fiber
Disclaimer: We will never touch upon Gilnean culture ever again in-game
uncut vault
still, gimme thicc worgen women in suits blizz
teal fiber
But hey here's Genn again
Everyone's favorite jack-ass uncle who forgets his own wife exists.
uncut vault
I mean, we might be headed back to gilneas in BfA so
rich apex
Aside that drawing a werewolf to look good is easier than animating one
dat fur
...what new Un'goro content did we get in WoW
uncut vault
the existence of tortollans
rich apex
Oh, that
uncut vault
p clear now that was hearthstone knowing stuff from bfa development
meager warren
if that's so, then it's quite understandable for Genn to have forgotten her
hollow dock
the last time she was -ever- mentioned was the short story 'Lord of his Pack' where she broke her leg, got it healed and went to Teldrassil.
uncut vault
I mean, the only role she's played is almost dying in a boat, and being injured
hollow dock
hey now. she was at greymane manor
she pointed us to her stubborn husband
So she points at him
meager warren
i don't recall
uncut vault
ah yes, role #3: roadblock
hollow dock
Questblock*
rich apex
I'm still shocked she survived at all
teal fiber
It'd be nice if the Queen of all of Gilneas was remembered and took at least some role in ruling what's left of the Gilneans, yes.
hollow dock
The only queen in the alliance to live and she's the ignored one
I honestly thought she died
rich apex
Instead of getting eating by worgen in the first act
teal fiber
I could absolutely just
teal fiber
See Blizz forgot she didn't die and have Genn bring her up as if she's dead
hollow dock
Just forgotten
teal fiber
Like Genn will be like "This is for whatsherface!" In past-tense and factchecker guy will be like
"But. She isn't dead."
rich apex
Gonna need a Gilnaen Fact Checker
teal fiber
Crowley forgot his own daughter so
Hyper knows well how I think Cata is the worst of all the expansions.
vast roost
Where is red shirt guy when we need him
vast roost
The Mag'har would be inclined to disagree.
hollow dock
CAta was just rushed tbh. It was decent until 4.3
teal fiber
Alliance questing would disagree
teal fiber
Edwin weeps.
meager warren
Crowley forgot his own daughter?
oh, the deliberate ignorance of Warcraft npcs
hollow dock
I went from Hyjal to Deepholm to Uldum. I never saw any issues or even differences in the questing. 🤷
teal fiber
The problem was the writing is shit.
Cata Alliance questing was a shitshow of memes and outdated jokes.
And alright so. Jokes are fine. I like jokes.
hollow dock
Do horde quest differently in those three zones?
hollow dock
Cuz I like. never saw any jokes or memes.
teal fiber
Horde questing has a whole overarchi-
hollow dock
Other than millhouse
hollow dock
OH
teal fiber
Okay lemme clarify then
teal fiber
Well that explains it then.
hollow dock
I only did my three and kept to Kalmindor for everything.
teal fiber
Now there was some diamonds in the rough mind
hollow dock
I never found any issues in Kalmindor.
teal fiber
Gilnean questing was great. Everyone loves Silverpine Forest. Wildhammer stuff was nice
No no, Horde old-world questing revamp was
Actually fairly good.
hollow dock
I thought alliance was pretty great too.
teal fiber
Westfall.
hollow dock
well that sucks for EK I guess.
I've always considerd EK to suck tho.
so I just keep to Kalmindor :v
meager warren
u keep to Kalimdor even tho Eastern Kingdoms is more Alliance?
hollow dock
Yea. I love the Night Elf questing a heck of a lot more. )
meager warren
o. touche
teal fiber
Gnomeregan's still been unconquered to this day
hollow dock
yea and Echo Isles is still being sieged by a dead sea witch to this day.
teal fiber
With Zandalari, Blizz now has an excuse to completely ignore the Darkspear entirely
hollow dock
how about Silverpine that's still being invaded by the Forsaken
meager warren
Gnomeregan was conquered by the lepers
hollow dock
Operation Gnomeregan was in cata tho
and the after effects haven't been altered since
teal fiber
And the Tortollans
meager warren
^
people are going to be angry with pandas in 2030.
if WoW lasts that long, anyway
sharp bluff
Reasons why i want panda DKs, the salt lol
teal fiber
Panda DH's.
sharp bluff
Weren’t people messing with the orb that changes looks the first week we got DH, and a bunch of flying pandas happened?
Here we are
Spooky
meager warren
Sp00ky
tropic trail
S p o o k
dense plover
huh
so the vulpera are in the dressing room
and you can tell when an animation done
because unfinished or untouched animations have a static tail model
and it can be hilarious looking
terse patrol
Seeming more and more likely that theyre gunna be an allied race
meager warren
based off of what?
elder otter
Credit to Vulpera Hype Caravan's Discord
uncut vault
its interesting, they use the goblin rig but a lot of their anims look like updated versions of em
terse patrol
Seems weird to put this much effort into custom animations for them not to be an allied race.
hollow dock
Could just be that we're stuck with them for a very long time questing wise
heavy cairn
So far we have 3 allied races that we were stuck with for a very long time (nightborne, lightforged, high mountain)
Horde is naturally going to be stuck with zandalari for a long time, being on the island of zandalar
tropic trail
I wonder if they'll ever get forest trolls
hollow dock
Yes. Everything is an allied race
rich apex
Eventually (TM)
rich apex
Pffsh
tropic trail
Furbolg allied
hollow dock
Who cares about exhausting the playerbase
tropic trail
I also want a campfire allied race
rich apex
I've never heard anyone say 'blizz puts out too much content, too quickly'
tropic trail
I believe it's the opposite isn't it?
hollow dock
thats what people said at the start of legion. that there was a content overload.
tropic trail
Never heard that
rich apex
...at the start of Legion
teal fiber
Ever say that
rich apex
When Suramar was only half done
teal fiber
Did you completely miss WoD?
hollow dock
oh it was everywhere. People got burned out near the start of legion because there was 'so much to do'. In regards to the WQ system being new.
rich apex
And the rest of the content was WQs
steel venture
content,,, overload,,,
bruh did freaking people lose their MINDS
teal fiber
You're literally lying
wild pewter
Never heard anyone complain about too much to do at the start of Legion
rich apex
You're not supposed to do -every single WQ-
rich apex
I mean
teal fiber
What the hell server do you play on
hollow dock
that's what people on my server did Hyper.
rich apex
If you're feeling oblieged to do every single WQ
I can see someone saying they're burned out
Because they forced themselves to do every single WQ
And missed the entire point of the emissary system
wild pewter
^
hollow dock
Drenden and its cluster. Heck, Asmongold had complained about early burnout during the 'Farm MoS 500 times to max your artifact'
I laughed at them for their tackling of the Artifacts % damage rank farming.
But hey it still happened. People complained about it. 🤷
rich apex
People complain about everything
teal fiber
Yeah. Those people were idiots.
hollow dock
Apparently Im a liar tho
teal fiber
They completely forgot what a fucking drought WoD was
rich apex
But Blizz didn't force them to farm WQs and AP
And you're not forced to roll a new Allied alt
(And if the new racials are so meta, they'll just get nerfed before you'll make it to 120)
hollow dock
That's the blizzard conditioning though.
rich apex
Well, Blizz -does- want you to play their game
hollow dock
exactly. For years how has the cycle gone?
rich apex
But there's still a choice
rich apex
But the Allied race itself isn't new content
hollow dock
you log off. cycle repeats.
hollow dock
Could say the same for the Mage Tower.
rich apex
The Mage Tower is about the challenge, the skin is just the epeen prize
But, again
Cosmetic
hollow dock
Yup. and people have burned themselves out on it.
It's pretty clear we're not responsible
hollow dock
I think pandas is still more stupid
teal fiber
You would.
rich apex
Where's that animal race image
hollow dock
the complaint about pandas
meager warren
Vris, that's funny coming from you
hollow dock
I think that is still more stupid
hollow dock
Yes, that complaint. that's still going on to this day.
I think it is more stupid than overload of content
tropic trail
I would've loved to see Arrakoas as an allied race
rich apex
Pretty sure they're Mammoth Men
meager warren
ye
tropic trail
I just called them Daddy Long Legs
uncut vault
it always makes me laugh when I see people say "high elves will never happen" then turn around and ask for forest trolls and wildhammer
rich apex
I mean they -could- still happen
tropic trail
The issue with high elves, there isn't aesthetic differences except for eye color
meager warren
High Elves =/= Forest Trolls or Wildhammer
but i agree with ur premise otherwise
rich apex
Who knows
tropic trail
I feel like it'd make sense to do an Ogre = Wildhammer
If we go with the Twighlight Highlands shtick
rich apex
Assuming they're making races parallel each other
Considering Dark Iron/Zandalari
And Mag'har/(probably) Kul'tirans
uncut vault
I mean, if you discount lodges and wildhammer tendencies, no differences. But Wildhammer are as likely to happen as helfs. Which I still think both are likely in the future. But it just makes me laugh when people think that wildhammer are so unique
tropic trail
I'm hoping they do balance out the mag'har orcs however
meager warren
were playable trolls and dwarves introduced in the same expac?
tropic trail
Yeah, vanilla
meager warren
o
tropic trail
The issue with some of the allied races is that they're completely fabricated.
Velfs suffer from such an issue
meager warren
wdym
rich apex
New lore?
teal fiber
I think the main issue is
rich apex
Madness
tropic trail
It means that they didn't get as much of a backstory to them
teal fiber
Okay all the allies races with the exception of dark irons and zandalari are completely fabricated right
meager warren
sure they did.
teal fiber
But with Highmountain and Nightborne, there's a very definite culture and we get to see for a very long time how their culture is and aesthetic
But velves and lightforged just
There's nothing
uncut vault
tfw highmountain have basically no cultural differences from normal tauren, its just normal tauren on a snowy mountain
rich apex
Highmountain don't exactly have an in depth culture
teal fiber
Well yeah but Blizz doesn't know that native Americans aren't one single culture
tropic trail
Nightborne were set up marvelously in terms of backstory, Highmountain, they we're different despites the overwhelming comparisons, and Lightforged are still basically yellow draeneis and the void elves are literally blood elves turned purple
meager warren
Lightforged are the remains of the Light-focused draenei on Argus.
Void Elves are elves who were corrupted in some way by the Void. One was corrupted in the Seat of the Triumvirate
rich apex
Lightforged had an entire audio drama and then an Argus expansion
teal fiber
That would require hiring a native guy on their lore team and nah too much work Christie can just look on pinterest for aesthetic
rich apex
And void elves are foreshadowing the N'zoth surprise
uncut vault
nightborne are the only race out of the current four that have any kind of unique culture
velfs are purple belfs, lightforged are yellow draenei, highmountain are tauren in the snow.
meager warren
i mean, Mayans and Aztecans count as Native Americans just as much as those who lived in what is now the United States.
So Zandalari are based on native americans as well
rich apex
Is they're reskins
tropic trail
Meth*
uncut vault
native american usually means native to the US region
tropic trail
Edgy, what do you define as 'native american'?
uncut vault
mexico and lower are mesoamerican
tropic trail
^^
meager warren
eh.
Native Mesoamerican then
tropic trail
Thanks for clearing that up, I was a bit confused
meager warren
still not much different.
I consider anyone who lived in the continent of America, including South America and North America, before America became its modern form, native american.
tropic trail
But South America and North America are culturally different
meager warren
no shit.
But South America and North America are both part of the same continent, which is called America
elder otter
They're different continents...
wild pewter
^
meager warren
oh.
well, they're all called "The Americas" and comprise of one massive island
zinc sandal
I’ve never heard anyone say South and North America are different continents
elder otter
Some education systems evidently do refer to them as a single continent, guess it just depends where you went to school.
zinc sandal
Spain
dense plover
7 continents - North America, South America, Australia, Africa, Eurasia, India
, Antarctica
These are the 7 continents
That map is wrong
zinc sandal
Lmao
dense plover
The continents as of around 2010 are based on the continental plates
elder otter
If that map is wrong, it's wrong x several million. It's the same across ALL the maps I'm seeing lol
dense plover
Eurasia is one plate
zinc sandal
Imma walk away now
dense plover
India is its own
wild pewter
Um. Europe and Asia are seperate. I don't see how this fits bfa spoilers though.
tropic trail
The continents I studied were, North America, South America, Europe, Antarctica, Oceania, and maybe I'm forgetting something else
wild pewter
Don't leave us! Please!
rich apex
Quick
meager warren
uncut vault
I dont like the furries putting chemicals in the water that turn the friggin horde gay
meager warren
wat
dense plover
Apparently there are two different methods
wild pewter
We've got Frog mounts now, they'll turn those frogs gay too
dense plover
Eurocentric and geocentric
tropic trail
That's what Goldshire is for
dense plover
Eurocentric separates Asia and Europe because of cultural barriers
Geocentric is based on the tectonic plates
uncut vault
I mean, the really simple answer is there should be 6 continents but the EU exists so
dense plover
I was taught geocentric
meager warren
conspiracy theory of the day: The water is turning the Horde gay but not the alliance.
Makes total sense.
dense plover
Also, it was clearly a joke
meager warren
it was clearly a stupid joke
dense plover
Based on a popular quote from an internet moron
tropic trail
We're all internet morons
meager warren
^
rich apex
mood
uncut vault
its an alex jones joke
meager warren
i don't watch Alex Jones
uncut vault
neither do most people
tropic trail
Alex Jones is a basket of quotes
dense plover
We don’t either
uncut vault
but hes stupid enough to be a meme
rich apex
There's 'argues over dumb WoW things'
And then there's
'chemicals in the water to make the frogs gay'
dense plover
^
meager warren
o
dense plover
It’s a stupid meme
tropic trail
True story, I have a Alex Jones soundboard
meager warren
you may want to not imitate him if you don't want to look like a total doofus
hollow dock
everyone should
uncut vault
I mean its a very clear joke that most people on the internet know
cause it was that stupid and well known
🤷
tropic trail
Like Alex
meager warren
i've not heard of it.
maybe i'm just not too well-versed on these "newfangled" memes
hollow dock
I went into a lunara match and this is what I come back to
meager warren
it took 3 minutes?
hollow dock
I just scrolled up to it after getting out of my match
zinc sandal
I bet you’re terrible at Lunara, Vris
hollow dock
Im actually fine
meager warren
define fine
hollow dock
Its just when theres a teleporting valeera with a 2 second silence that always gets me
no matter what
zinc sandal
That’s why you take Abolish Magic
hollow dock
at level 20
zinc sandal
You didn’t get that far, huh?
zinc sandal
Yikes
meager warren
i can't even make it to lvl 5 in Hearthstone
hollow dock
she bstepped me too
uncut vault
still waiting for anduin or mekkatorque in HotS for me to fully return
sudden oak
with the gutting of invisibility they buffed valeera too much
also id love to have a priest in hots
either anduin or velen
uncut vault
tfw valeera has the fifth lowest winrate
uncut vault
Im betting maraad will be the first simply because TBC trailer nostalgia
hollow dock
Fuck yrel. Fuck valeera. fuck everything. Why do I play this game
zinc sandal
Yrel? That traitor?
zinc sandal
I already have a cama thank you
uncut vault
cause its a fun game