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plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 4:53 AM

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But like they’re litterally insulting the player not the game 😂 its f*%¥ed rn 😂

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 4:54 AM

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yep.
that's basically ad hominem

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there's a lot of that on the internet

plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 4:54 AM

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It jut keeps getting nastier and nastier.

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 4:54 AM

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The Internet was a mistake

plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 4:55 AM

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This is not good for my stock in ATVB rn 😂

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 4:56 AM

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it's kinda ironic how everyone loves war except people who've participated in an actual war

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Warcraft101

plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 4:56 AM

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😂 1920’s authors 101

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 4:58 AM

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Need a postwar Jazz Age expansion

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As Azeroth's collective psyche tries to recover from the devastation of the war with the Legion

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 4:59 AM

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BfA is more like,
"Hey, why don't we just backstab the people who helped us save the planet, by killing the planet?"

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:00 AM

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Khadgar: are you idiots really going to destroy the world you just saved

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:00 AM

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accurate

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:01 AM

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PC: i would agree but WoW doesn't have RPG branching choices

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(admittedly, that is for the best)

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:02 AM

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most PCs: "We'll deal with the aftermath after we kill the other side."
Sane PCs: "NO, Sylvannas/ Alleria/ Anduin! Don't do that!"

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:02 AM

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change anduin for greymane/jaina

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:02 AM

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^

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:02 AM

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Anduin is the king so no

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:02 AM

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Anduin knows there's no moral way to dismantle the Horde

plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 5:02 AM

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Nah dadgar is going to consol with medihv and become either the most powerful mage ever, or evil af

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:03 AM

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He just can't keep Jaina and Genn on a short enough leash once Teldrassil gets nuked

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:03 AM

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Khadgar killed Medivh with our help

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:03 AM

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I for one welcome Khadgar as our new Guardian Overlord

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:03 AM

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^

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:04 AM

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I will also accept a naaru space fleet invasion as our benevolent overlords

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Lux vult

plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 5:04 AM

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Thats what i meant @rich apex just forgot the name 😂 There’s a theory that Anduin is the child of Jaina and Arthas... some game of thrones John snow shit right there...

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:04 AM

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Ha

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Blizz is never going to do a political intrigue plot

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They don't care about who's the rightful heir to Lordaeron

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:05 AM

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anduin cant do anything with genn tbh even in legion when he ordered to him to go on a scout mission he ignored him and did whatever he wanted

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:05 AM

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But the theory I heard is Anduin is the child of Arthas and Tiffin 😛

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:05 AM

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who was the last king?

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:05 AM

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Terenas

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:05 AM

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no

plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 5:05 AM

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@rich apex just makes the art in chronicle 3 all the more interesting is all

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:05 AM

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Oh, Arthas and Jaina definitely boinked

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It's canon

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It's in the old Arthas novel

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:05 AM

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boinked lmao

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:06 AM

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And then Arthas dumped her once he realized he'd actually have to marry her

plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 5:06 AM

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😂

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:06 AM

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And act like an adult

plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 5:06 AM

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Arthass is literally hamlet

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:06 AM

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Pay no mind to the dumb luck of actually having a marriage to a woman who he loved and who was also a valuable political connection

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:06 AM

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who was Anduin's canon father

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:06 AM

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Arthas is literally a dumbass manchild

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Varian

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:07 AM

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Was Varian a eunuch or something then if Anduin isn't his

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:07 AM

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:|a

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Varian was not kidnapped by some cultist and made a eunuch

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Or whatever Varys's backstory is

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:07 AM

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HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:07 AM

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(well, Varian -was- kidnapped, but that was after he had Anduin)

plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 5:07 AM

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Varian was kidnapped by some orcs and made a gladiator slave...

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 5:07 AM

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you'd know he's not a eunich if you read his chapters with genn

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the sexual tension over that bear hunt was intense

plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 5:07 AM

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😂👌

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:08 AM

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BEAR hunt

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heh

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homoerotic subtext

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I mean, Genn is supposed to be a rich British guy

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:08 AM

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werebear?

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:08 AM

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What's a story about rich British guys without some lowkey guy love

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:08 AM

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Genn is an awful guy

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:08 AM

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Not that kind of bear

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:08 AM

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i'm intrigued

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:09 AM

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Varian was kidnapped by Onyxia and divided him in 2

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:09 AM

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I mean...Genn is big, hairy

plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 5:09 AM

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Anyone see t&e’s vid? Kul tiran human druids, get the cool wicker cat wicker moonkin and bear... then for bear it showed just a shirtless kultiran male ....

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:09 AM

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Genn is a bear

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He wears leather

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:09 AM

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one of the parts got lost and some orcs made him a gladiator/slave

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:09 AM

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GENN IS A BEAR

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(no one is getting the bear joke, are they?)

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:09 AM

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GENN IS A WORGEN AND A BEAR?
HE'S A WEREBEAR THEN

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:09 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/375726478370930690/422455384087724033/image.png

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No

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Genn is a gay bear

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it's a gay thing

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:09 AM

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what joke

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:09 AM

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Varian and Genn went on a bear hunt

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:10 AM

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boat bear

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:10 AM

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A bear is slang for big, hairy gay dudes

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:10 AM

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beat

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:10 AM

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Genn is big and hairy

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Varian went on a 'bear hunt'

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:10 AM

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orly

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:10 AM

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I was -going- to say they're both single and allowed to love whoever they'd like

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But

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I was recently told

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:10 AM

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I did get the joke but I was holding my head in pain from the bad joke

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:10 AM

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Genn's wife is still alive

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Thank you

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:10 AM

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like my headache you got worse

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:11 AM

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Genn can pull a zeus and fuck anything that moves even with his wife being around still

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:11 AM

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I'm lowkey shocked

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All the shit Genn went through

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His wife actually survived

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:11 AM

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kek

plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 5:11 AM

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Official confirmed Kul Tiran bear form...https://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2018/january/KulTiranMale002.jpg

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:11 AM

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and her daughter

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:11 AM

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https://wow.gamepedia.com/Mia_Greymane

Wowpedia

Mia Greymane

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:11 AM

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stop, Gandem.
pls

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:11 AM

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he just lost his fav son and his kingdom

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:11 AM

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"she is the only human queen who has not been outlived by her husband"

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"and has actually been seen in the game"

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Mia Greymane’s a gilf

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:12 AM

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yet

plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 5:12 AM

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yikes

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:12 AM

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more like milf

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:12 AM

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They needa bring her back tbh

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since Genn’s a main character

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Considering she literally hasn't appeared since one quest in Cata

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Kinda

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:13 AM

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so, is she alive?

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:13 AM

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Yes

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As far as we know

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:13 AM

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it was fine when Genn wasnt in the forefront

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:13 AM

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Since she literally has not appeared since

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:13 AM

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exactly.

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Bliz loves to change shit

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:14 AM

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Genn was a minor character in Cata and Pandaria. He only began a big deal in Legion.

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:14 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/821ebt/conspiracy_theory_of_the_day_thrall_is_a_woman/dv71tce/?context=3
i'm not sure why the last comment on this part of this post is downvoted to shit. i guess people can't handle the truth

Conspiracy Theory of the Day: Thrall is a Woman • r/wow

184 points and 42 comments so far on reddit

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:15 AM

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So

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Bout time they brought his wife back

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:15 AM

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they didn't bring her back in legion so why start now

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:15 AM

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Mia and Katherine Proudmoore can chat and shit

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Katherine Proudmoore outlived her husband :p

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:15 AM

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do you mean literally shit or metaphorically

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:16 AM

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Okay, yeah, I guess they will have to update that Wowpedia post

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(they probably forgot about it too =P)

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:17 AM

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Who was Jaina married to?

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:17 AM

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No one

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She was going to be engaged to Arthas but he panicked at the thought of being an adult

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:18 AM

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xd

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so Jaina outlived her fiance

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Like the novel is lowkey hilarious about it

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They're both at court

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And Arthas realizes that his mother has started matching dresses with herself and Calia and Jaina

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Because they're welcoming Jaina into the royal family

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And Arthas is all

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'waaaaait a minute'

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And then

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Jaina talks about children

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:19 AM

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I know in alternate timelines where he doesnt go evil, he eventually bucks up and marries her.

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:19 AM

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And he just bails the fuck out

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Bah

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I want a Kings of Lordaeron expansion

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EvilMedvih has corrupted Arthas into a mad tyrant

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Make the humans the assholes for once

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Despite the lack of Scourge cultists

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:20 AM

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Doubt we’ll see an Alternate Azeroth expansion after Warlords lol

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:20 AM

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Oh for sure no

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But I can dream

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:20 AM

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And because EvilMedivh is a romantic little shit, he makes Arthas buck up and marry Jaina.
And they make little lich kings

plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 5:21 AM

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I just want a john snow character... and I want manduin to be that character

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:21 AM

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I wrote a nation based forum RP set in WoW, in a timeline where the Blackrocks in Alterax succeed in creating a secondary Dark Portal. King Terenas is replaced by Tichondrius. No Scourge, this timeline.

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Was fun.

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Anduin wishes he could please women like Jon Snow

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:23 AM

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don't spoil Game of Thrones for me pls

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:23 AM

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he’s likely gunna marry yrel, he has space goat fever.

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:23 AM

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boi

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It's been like a year

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Go catch up

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And Jon Snow proved he knew something about women

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Like four seasons ago

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:24 AM

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cmon anduin noticed how graceful the hands of a draenei shaman looked when she was casting wind once

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:24 AM

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ok fine

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:24 AM

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Who -doesn't- notice draenei booty

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He's a teenager

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:24 AM

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he’s going to marry a dwarf lass

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:24 AM

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i haven't even seen episode one of GoT.
stahp

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:24 AM

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...

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:24 AM

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he had the hots for his bodyguard in Ironforge

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:24 AM

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:|a

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:24 AM

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(Shes dead tho now)

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:24 AM

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political marriage to Moira

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She's single

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Ironforge is the other strongest nation

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Moira already has an heir, so no worries about whether or not they can have kids

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:25 AM

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if they made booty more defined in this game, all the horny people would come to WoW

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Glad they retconned butter-face Moira in favor of cuter Moira.

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uh

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:26 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/83o310/probably_one_of_my_favorite_quotes_about_bfa_so/

Probably one of my favorite quotes about BfA so far. • r/wow

"Hey Blizz , you want a faction war right? Well gz because you got one and you didn't needa bother with Azerite or war machines or burning cities....

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:26 AM

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have you not seen any wow porn

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:26 AM

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mood

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:26 AM

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WoW literally has the most porn.

plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Can we get Dwarf children pleeeease

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:27 AM

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wasnt Aerin just a close friend and bodyguard?

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:27 AM

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it'd be better if WoW females got dat booty

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:27 AM

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If you read the book

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:27 AM

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they already have boobs so

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:27 AM

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He clearly is physically attracted to her.

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:28 AM

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which book

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:28 AM

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The Shattering, if I recal

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:30 AM

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that's very likely no longer canon mostly

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Anduin's a teenager

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So

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:30 AM

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dwarf grills are thicc so

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:30 AM

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He's 'attracted' in a strong breeze

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:30 AM

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cant blame hi

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him

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:31 AM

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Anduin is probably attracted to everything that moves.
we should call him Zeus

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:31 AM

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but ye, i’m 90% sure that when he does marry someone, it won’t be a human.

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he gunna marry sylvanas /s

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:31 AM

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more like 10% sure and 80% conjecture

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:33 AM

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I just want wranduin to be canon murloc

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:33 AM

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wrathduin?

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 5:33 AM

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no

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Anduin needa have kids.

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:34 AM

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no he don't

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he can outlaw human breeding

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then the humans will go extinct

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:34 AM

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Pffsh

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He can adopt

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Plenty of war orphans

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:34 AM

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No more humans to plague the world.
The undead would have to get better fodder.

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:39 AM

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also having 2 important lore character being the first MxM couple would be great murloc

plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 5:40 AM

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This IS the wow bfa spoilers channel so i cant say the real thing or it would be off topic soooo.... Orange king of stormwind and a certain Kalimdoor northern portion of a peninsula are talking peace treaties.... I repeat Tru- Anduin is wanting a treaty with Kim Sylvanis Windrunner! YIPPPEEEEE

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:40 AM

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i wanna see a Romeo and Juliet like thing. Where an Alliance and Horde couple get together

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wait, i got something for that, Gandem

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http://prntscr.com/hogukk

Lightshot

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plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 5:41 AM

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Lol

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Gnight yall

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:42 AM

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as far as I know we have no canon M x M couples in WoW right?

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:43 AM

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M x M?

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:44 AM

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male x male

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:44 AM

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define couple

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:45 AM

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2 individuals in a romantic relationship

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:45 AM

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define romantic

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:46 AM

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Tehd and Marius

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But no

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Not really

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:47 AM

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yeah but sadly tehd and marius can be hardly called canon

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:47 AM

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Well, Tehd and Marius fight like a married couple so hey

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:49 AM

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Illidan and maiev bickered in CoEN like an old married couple too

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:49 AM

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i ship it

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:49 AM

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that doesnt mean they are a canon couple

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:49 AM

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shhhhh

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:50 AM

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I want something where it says they are in love with each other like the enchanting quest line with the 2 female nelves in azsuna

plain vigil Mar 12, 2018, 5:50 AM

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Some prince and pauper shit... anduin and wrathion have swapped places

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K bye

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:50 AM

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Gandem, go sleep

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 5:50 AM

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I was 100% joking about Tehd and Marius

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:50 AM

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orly

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:51 AM

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I have seen a couple of people shiping them to tell the truth

willow knoll Mar 12, 2018, 5:51 AM

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of course people ship them

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:53 AM

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How about Saurfang x Garrosh

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 5:56 AM

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saurfang x genn is better

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two old dad faction leaders that lost their sons

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:57 AM

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i didn't know Saurfang had a son

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:58 AM

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the fourth boss from ICC

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thats his son

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:59 AM

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wat

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 5:59 AM

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the fourth boss from ICC is saurfangs son

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I dont remember the name rn

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 5:59 AM

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wat

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https://wow.gamepedia.com/Dranosh_Saurfang

Wowpedia

Dranosh Saurfang

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i don't see the resemblance

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 6:01 AM

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you mean the brown skin?

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 6:01 AM

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the steamy romance novel guy is bi and banged a stableboy

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😉

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 6:01 AM

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no.
i mean the huge-ass muscles.
he's bigger than a fuckin' elephant

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oh yes!
Steamy romance novel was legit

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 6:02 AM

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the stable boy is not even an npc and fucking once doesnt mean being a couple

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 6:02 AM

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there's ur M x M x W

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 6:03 AM

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the steamy romance guy is not a man who deserves just one partner

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he is an adventurer who conquers many

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 6:03 AM

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don't u remember the alliance soldier who walked out of the Highmountain hut which contained a male and female tauren?

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 6:03 AM

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that was him yes

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p sure it was two female tauren tho

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 6:04 AM

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it was a female and a male

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 6:04 AM

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i think one was male

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 6:04 AM

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a married couple if im not mistaken

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 6:04 AM

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Ah, nvm

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Yeah so

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He had a threesome with a male and female tauren

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lmao

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 6:06 AM

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Bliz may not know how to write fantasy fic but they can write erotic fic

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 6:06 AM

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He won’t rest until he’s slept with every race.

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 6:06 AM

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that won't take long

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what will be difficult is finding members of each race that isn't racist

ruby prawn Mar 12, 2018, 6:21 AM

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Why did Dranosh have brown skin?

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Rather than green, as his father

sudden oak Mar 12, 2018, 6:22 AM

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maybe he had him before drinking the demon blood

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 6:23 AM

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Probably stuck on Outland like Garrosh

ruby prawn Mar 12, 2018, 6:27 AM

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Do you know if the man sleeping with 2 highmountain tauren will appear in BfA?

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That would be a real spoiler

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 6:34 AM

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Oh yeah, I forgot about that

ruby prawn Mar 12, 2018, 7:25 AM

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He'll sleep with the kings and leaders, bringing world Peace to Azeroth

ruby prawn Mar 12, 2018, 8:11 AM

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This is how WoW will end

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This is the last raid

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A picnic between the leaders of the Horde and Alliance

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And we will have to do stuff for them, kinda like we do in the goblin starting zone

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Maybe in the next xpac we will fight the old gods

tropic trail Mar 12, 2018, 9:15 AM

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It’s my birthday today, hope there are some good PTR news 😄 ok im sorry its weird to wish something like that

vast roost Mar 12, 2018, 9:16 AM

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Thonk

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Happy birthday peepoBirthday

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 10:06 AM

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Well it’s a new week so there should be a new build today or tomorrow

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Stormsong did get some more touchups last build so it should be ready soon

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 10:45 AM

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It was definitely one male and one female Tauren in the hut he walked out of, and a box with a necklace

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He walked out from the little spoon side

tropic trail Mar 12, 2018, 11:45 AM

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Hehe ty

ruby prawn Mar 12, 2018, 12:17 PM

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Yes, it was a female and a male tauren. The man was also naked if I remember correctly.

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 12:19 PM

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The Tauren were I think, he walked out in his armor saying something cheesy

ruby prawn Mar 12, 2018, 12:19 PM

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Yeah

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I will make a char and quest there again

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Just to see

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Will the upright orcs be available soon or in bfa?

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 12:20 PM

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No one knows

ruby prawn Mar 12, 2018, 12:21 PM

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And are the casting animations new? Couldn't find anything related to that

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 12:21 PM

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They are in the alpha now from what I understand so no one knows

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 12:50 PM

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Warlocks have new animations. not finished. cuz its alpha.

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Nothing on Upright Orcs but considering Saurfangs unarmored model is just a player orc model, you can judge their animations on him.

wide lance Mar 12, 2018, 2:23 PM

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All I ask for is more adventures from Marcus in those steamy romance novels, best grey ever looted imo.

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 3:33 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/83uy63/just_in_case_someone_missed_it_this_is_jaina/
Jaina finally got coot.

Just in case someone missed it, this is Jaina Proudmoore in Battle...

46 points and 23 comments so far on reddit

leaden garden Mar 12, 2018, 3:36 PM

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I still think Jaina has gone moderately batshit

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Justifiably to be certain, but still batshit

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 3:36 PM

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She really hasn't. She's traumatized.

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Watching everything you've worked towards your entire life and betrayed your own family for being vaporized does that to you

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 3:37 PM

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the Horde burning Stormwind isn’t gunna do much to make her forgive the Horde lol

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 3:38 PM

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The horde existing and denying their crimes to her isn't doing much either.

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:42 PM

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they arent denying anything

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we bombed theramore

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it was a military success

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was it fucked up? yes

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does that make it the wrong decision - thats a different discussion

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meanwhile, jaina has spent the past year contemplating and thinking away from everyone

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 3:43 PM

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tbh it was the wrong decision. Theramore wasn’t even participating in the war, that was Northwatch.

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:44 PM

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and the alliance players return with her to kul tiras for the first time since she helped have her father killed

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theramore was filled with generals

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they were all gathered there

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 3:44 PM

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Jaina didn’t approve it tho

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:44 PM

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the bombing wiped out a huge chunk of the alliance's military leaders

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again, it was a military victory for the horde

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and jaina isnt king

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what she says doesnt matter compared to varian's orders

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(at that time)

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 3:46 PM

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Jaina had to call em there to help defend Theramore. While it was an alliance port, it didn't have the forces to defend. Strategy wise, Garrosh executed it perfectly. Even accounting his traitorous leaders to warning her.

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 3:46 PM

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Thrall basically betrayed Jaina.

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She basically secured the survival of the Horde, and was repaid with war crimes.

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 3:46 PM

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and, technically he did and didn't.

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He had no idea Garrosh would pull this

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Yeah he warned her

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But garrosh knew he would

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Even us forsaken are shocked, shocked I say

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:47 PM

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It was the entire point

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Yup

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He calculated it perfectly.

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:47 PM

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It was a genius strategy

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Jaina hating it is reasonable

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But from a horde perspective, it was a huge victory

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 3:48 PM

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Ye. Just annoying that Hordies whine about Jaina being hardcore anti Horde now.

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 3:48 PM

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Perfectly justified hate, her not helping against the legion however...

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 3:48 PM

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Y’all brought that on yourselves.

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:48 PM

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Only people who don’t listen to the lore

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I know she is justified

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 3:48 PM

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If her hate is reasonable, why is her not wanting to help the horde reasonable?

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:49 PM

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Although her decision to not help in Legion is questionable at best

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 3:49 PM

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🤔

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:49 PM

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She made a decision to help herself vs the whole of Azeroth

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Her bias made her believe that the horde left on purpose

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Not because they had to

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 3:49 PM

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yet...she was there with us?

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what

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:49 PM

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She helped at brokenshore

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 3:49 PM

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Ever since Thrall abandoned his responsibilities in order to be a full time Shaman, he abandoned his basically best friend Jaina to get fucked over.

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 3:50 PM

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She was on the shore

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:50 PM

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Yep

heavy cairn Mar 12, 2018, 3:50 PM

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I see. she wasn't in a cinematic so I wouldn't know

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:50 PM

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And she saw the horde abandon the alliance

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 3:50 PM

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You didn't do the scenario?

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You hear her as horde and alliance

heavy cairn Mar 12, 2018, 3:50 PM

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I did the scenario once

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meanwhile watched the cutscene more than once

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:50 PM

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When the horde couldn’t have stayed unless they all wanted to die

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Jaina is the thrall of the alliance scenario

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 3:50 PM

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I got stuck doing it 8 times T.T

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:50 PM

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She makes the bridges

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You know you can skip it after the first time right?

heavy cairn Mar 12, 2018, 3:51 PM

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so her hate to the horde is justified because of previous crimes + broken shore (the alliance did not see what happened on that cliff), true, but not fighting the legion, not so much

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even genn fought the legion, and he's the main one who got salty about the horde leaving

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:51 PM

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The broken shore point is only justified because of her bias

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The horde did not purposefully abandon the alliance

heavy cairn Mar 12, 2018, 3:51 PM

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well genn has that bias too, yet he stayed to fight

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:51 PM

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The horde had to leave or die

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And we still lost our warchief

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 3:52 PM

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Alliance never see it though

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:52 PM

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Yeah

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 3:52 PM

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Come to think of it

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:52 PM

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But anduin tried to explain it as a possibility after

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And she recklessly denies it

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And then teleports away

heavy cairn Mar 12, 2018, 3:52 PM

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yea the horde is on a cliff and the alliance couldn't see what happened

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that's why I said it was justified to them

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:52 PM

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Then the council of 6 remove her

heavy cairn Mar 12, 2018, 3:53 PM

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why are they still called the council of six if they are just five?

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 3:53 PM

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Did the Alliance ever find out Voljiin is dead? Or did Sylvanis just kinda take over from their view?

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:53 PM

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No

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They know

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 3:53 PM

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Making sure, been awhile since I did an alliance run

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:53 PM

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In canon there is time between broken shore and actual legion

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And the stormheim intro is based on knowing Sylvanas is warchief

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We can assume spies made it clear

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And horde saw varian explode as we left

heavy cairn Mar 12, 2018, 3:55 PM

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also there was an alliance person observing sylvanas talking near voljin's pyre (not as a spy but as a friend)

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:55 PM

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Yeah

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Friend from the voljin book

heavy cairn Mar 12, 2018, 3:55 PM

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he knew to come somehow, I wonder how

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:56 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

heavy cairn Mar 12, 2018, 3:56 PM

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unless the alliance knew by then

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:56 PM

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There is probably time between the funeral and the end of the scenario

heavy cairn Mar 12, 2018, 3:56 PM

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but that would be pretty quick, unless vol'jin was sitting on the throne for a longer time than is portrayed

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:56 PM

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They make it seem like time passes by in the cinematic

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 3:56 PM

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Oh I forgot about his human friend

heavy cairn Mar 12, 2018, 3:56 PM

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well of course time passes by, they sail from the broken shore to kalimdor

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:56 PM

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No I mean post voljin deag

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Death

steel venture Mar 12, 2018, 3:56 PM

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Tyrathan would've likely easily heard about the death.

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He literally ... was very close to Vol'jin.

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They ended up becoming friends over the course of Shadows of the Horde and he also knows Chen.

heavy cairn Mar 12, 2018, 3:57 PM

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but are you suggesting they have some sort of magical connection? close friends don't always know the state of the other in WoW

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even brothers

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:57 PM

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No

steel venture Mar 12, 2018, 3:58 PM

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So, you don't ever try to send letters or ask about how your friend is doing?

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:T

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 3:58 PM

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It’s just when you are friends with someone, you pay attention to that sort of thing

steel venture Mar 12, 2018, 3:58 PM

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^^^^^^^

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 4:00 PM

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theyre still the council of six because Dadghar moved in and took her spot

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Tython was at his funeral

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If y'all moved like. Three feet out, you find him there.

heavy cairn Mar 12, 2018, 4:00 PM

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I know, but how did he know to come there is all I'm asking

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I know friends pay attention to each other, but what sort of method would he use to know that vol'jin is dead in time for the funeral and sailing across the great sea?

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 4:01 PM

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as for how Tython got there, I assume the word of a warchief dying spreads pretty quickly.

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and its not like the horde took any effort what so ever to hide the ceremony

heavy cairn Mar 12, 2018, 4:02 PM

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so, maybe it passed through some horde people who participate in neutral activities? druids maybe?

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 4:02 PM

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Or alliance channels. Its not like the horde and alliance dont spy on each other all the time

steel venture Mar 12, 2018, 4:06 PM

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especially since its not like genn didnt KNOW sylvannas ended up becoming warchief / was going to stormhiem

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he was literally chasing after her due to it.

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 4:14 PM

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points to the Forsaken plans the Alliance finds in Azsuna

steel venture Mar 12, 2018, 4:21 PM

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^^^

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chronologically Azsuna does happen prior to Stormhiem.

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I think Val'sharah and Highmountain on the other hand take place at roughly the same time.

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 4:25 PM

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its actually kinda funny how easy it is to get information

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yet how little is actually shared

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 6:35 PM

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MARCH 15TH BOIS

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MARK IT FOR BFA QNA ABOUT THE ALPHA!

languid yoke Mar 12, 2018, 6:44 PM

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will probably be as bad as the last q&a

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 6:44 PM

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is Vris okay

zinc sandal Mar 12, 2018, 6:45 PM

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Good question

strange falcon Mar 12, 2018, 6:45 PM

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she took too many drugs today

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 6:47 PM

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I took like 10 drugs.

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 6:47 PM

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was one of them LSD?

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 6:49 PM

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Dunno. They were all just labeled 'drug'. I think like 9 of em was weed. So i took like 9 weeds and 1 unknown.

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 6:56 PM

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Alas, Ion will dodge any questions they're not prepared to comment on, because that's how Q&As work for every game

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 6:58 PM

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Mexican speedball

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 6:58 PM

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I can dream he'll confirm if Kul'tirans are playable or not, at least

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Much less if there will be a 9th and 10th Allied Race

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 7:00 PM

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Only 8 is stated i believe on the site

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 7:00 PM

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Thin humans, fat humans, buff humans,
white orcs, red orcs, void orcs,
Broken draenei,
etc

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 7:00 PM

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6 on the site

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But Mag'har got datamined

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Kul'tirans are 90% probable as the 8th

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And I would be all for humans of all shapes and sizes

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I just want a buff human lady

tired otter Mar 12, 2018, 7:01 PM

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What about other races

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Of all sizes

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 7:01 PM

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I respect the thicc Kul'tirans, but I wouldn't race change my human into one 😛

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 7:01 PM

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TAUNKA TAUREN

tired otter Mar 12, 2018, 7:02 PM

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Thicc elf girls 🤤

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 7:02 PM

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If only

tired otter Mar 12, 2018, 7:03 PM

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WTB stormforged vrykul

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Golden bling bling vrykul would look amazing

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 7:03 PM

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I really want Horde kvaldir

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But I'm not exactly betting on it anytime soon

tired otter Mar 12, 2018, 7:03 PM

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Those mini foxes tho

meager warren Mar 12, 2018, 7:03 PM

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How about Helarjar for Horde and Stormforged Vrykul for Alliance

tired otter Mar 12, 2018, 7:04 PM

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I’m ok with that

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Tbh

strange falcon Mar 12, 2018, 7:04 PM

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vulpera are really nice

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 7:04 PM

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If they do fix the 'too big' issues

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Given ogres and vrykul

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I am fairly sure they'll do vrykul in some form or another soon enough

tired otter Mar 12, 2018, 7:04 PM

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It be cool if you could be a valkyr

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 7:04 PM

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Ugh if only

strange falcon Mar 12, 2018, 7:04 PM

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imo vrykul will be a race

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in the lich king 2.0 expac

tired otter Mar 12, 2018, 7:05 PM

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Like eyirs chosen

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Imagine flying around as a valkyr

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Who needs a mount right

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 7:05 PM

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That is also possible

tired otter Mar 12, 2018, 7:05 PM

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I aways wanted a special cape that let you fly like wings

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 7:05 PM

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Evil Bolvar is pretty likely

strange falcon Mar 12, 2018, 7:05 PM

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the race is stormforged,males are stormforged females are valkyr

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 7:06 PM

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The Frozen Throne has a little sign

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'break ice in case of need for filler expansion'

tired otter Mar 12, 2018, 7:06 PM

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I’d dump 10 mill gold just for wings like that

strange falcon Mar 12, 2018, 7:06 PM

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evil bolvar is VERY likely if you've done the DK order hall campaign

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 7:06 PM

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I mean. Sorta?

tired otter Mar 12, 2018, 7:06 PM

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And they left illidan alive to bring him back

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 7:06 PM

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Its up to interpretation tbh

tired otter Mar 12, 2018, 7:07 PM

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Bolvar knee he was the only one that could take arthas place

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Tho I don’t think he was too happy

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 7:07 PM

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Bolvar wasnt going to let Tirion take the fall.

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Rather an already dead man take it than the world lose ots hero

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Ya know?

tired otter Mar 12, 2018, 7:07 PM

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Yea

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Not Shure if tirion could even handle it

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 7:08 PM

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I think he could

tired otter Mar 12, 2018, 7:08 PM

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He was getting old then

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 7:08 PM

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But we'd have lost the ashbringer again

tired otter Mar 12, 2018, 7:08 PM

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Yea

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It’s a shame we loose such iconic weapons after leigon

strange falcon Mar 12, 2018, 7:09 PM

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you can keep them as trasmog

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:p

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or in ur bank

tired otter Mar 12, 2018, 7:09 PM

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God

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The legendarys

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From leigon

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Thx blizz for filling my bank

strange falcon Mar 12, 2018, 7:10 PM

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legendaries seem to be usable up to level 119

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then imo they become grey or lose the effect

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or something

tired otter Mar 12, 2018, 7:10 PM

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Inc twinks

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Prolly loose the effect tbh

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Like the rings and cape

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Ect

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 7:13 PM

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Ye.

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How long until timewalking is just all legendary items

tired otter Mar 12, 2018, 7:16 PM

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Not Shure

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 7:33 PM

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I do wonder how much of the DK campaign they will retcon, since we where raising new DK's nonstop the whole time

heavy cairn Mar 12, 2018, 7:33 PM

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well there are no more legendaries after legion, meaning there are just 2-3 legion legendaries you are using in timewalking

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aman'thul's vision + arcanocrystal is probably going to be the timewalker's dream

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I dunno if the artifacts will actually be usable anymore. blizzard does not seem against players doing legion (levelling, at least) without artifacts (look at heirloom weapons)

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so my guess is relic-giving quests will instead give weapons post-legion

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it'll certainly be fun to combine azerite armor & legion legendaries in timewalking though

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 7:50 PM

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Why is that worthy of a retcon Zep?

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new forsaken being risen isn't retconned out. Making slightly weaker than normal DKs shouldn't be much of an issue.

heavy cairn Mar 12, 2018, 7:52 PM

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I hope in bfa they make timewalking queues follow the same scaling bands as old zones. I know heroics don't scale, but I mean the timing of the events

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e.g. burning crusade week happens at the same time as wrath of the lich king, even if you only need 71 for TBC walking and 81 for wrath walking

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with draenor coming, it would be nice for them to find a way to keep the time between TW events reasonable

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 7:54 PM

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well. yea. You need to be at that level to do those dungeons.

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Like. I dont know why you think things scale down, which is a lot harder to balance, than just scale up

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 8:01 PM

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idk, just disappointed we didn't get panda DK with us raising all the dead heroes of every race

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personal opinion though

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 8:06 PM

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It wouldn’t make sense

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The dead heroes are heroes

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There are no super well known pandaren heroes that are relevant to the DK story

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And they still wouldn’t be playable

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If you didn’t notice they weren’t every race

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They were races that can already be DKs

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Pandaren cant

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 8:08 PM

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We raised anyone who died lol, it was our troop thing, I honestly want them just to waltz around town for reactions like that

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Just like my Tauren Paladin

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 8:08 PM

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Yeah but you raising people was to send them to die again

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 8:08 PM

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Wouldn't be the first Pandarian to die

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I like making the fun (hated) combos

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Tauren Pally, gnome anything, etc

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I have 1 of each class that makes lore sense on my main server, everything else is fair game

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to me, at this point DK pandas would make sense, though they won't do them since the starting zone would need to be redone

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And we know Blizz hates changing starting zones, looking at you Silvermoon

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certainly more sense then my Forsaken DK... how many times can he die....

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 8:21 PM

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Forsaken DKs aren't actually forsaken who have been re-risen

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They died only once, but their bodies had rotten during the raising process.

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 8:23 PM

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kinda makes no sense in the starter zone, but after it would make sense

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since the one guy you kill in the one building says you both broke free together

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As 1st gen Forsaken

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 8:27 PM

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No undead DKs, at least the player, were normal forsaken that broke free like all the others, then died and were risen again as a DK. Stated pretty plainly in the little chapel text.

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 8:28 PM

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This is the Undead dialog:

Come to finish the job, have you?
Ironic, isn't it? To be killed...
<name>?
<name>, I'd recognize that decay anywhere... What... What have they done to you, <name>?
You don't remember me, do you? We were humans once - long, long ago - until Lordaeron fell to the Scourge. Your transformation to a Scourge zombie came shortly after my own. Not long after that, our minds were freed by the Dark Lady.
A pact was made, brother! We vowed vengeance against the Lich King! For what he had done to us! We battled the Scourge as Forsaken, pushing them back into the plaguelands and freeing Tirisfal! You and I were champions of the Forsaken!
Listen to me, <name>. You must fight against the Lich King's control. He is a monster that wants to see this world - our world - in ruin. Don't let him use you to accomplish his goals AGAIN. You were once a hero and you can be again. Fight, damn you! Fight his control!
Knight Commander Plaguefist yells: What's going on in there? What's taking so long, <name>?
There... There's no more time for me. I'm done for. Finish me off, <name>. Do it or they'll kill us both. <name>... Remember Tirisfal! This world is worth saving!
Do it, <name>! Put me out of my misery!

tulip sun Mar 12, 2018, 8:28 PM

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Literally any race discovered pre-bfa could be a death knight(not necessarily playable), but NPC-wise, certainly.

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After the DK campaign ^^

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or during, whatever

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 8:29 PM

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Pretty sure the Lich King is special enough to re-undead a dead undead

tulip sun Mar 12, 2018, 8:29 PM

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That is a weird sentence xD

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 8:31 PM

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Well Lich King can raise Worgens and Murlocs, both of which resist undeath

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 8:34 PM

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He's the Lich King

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Not the Lich Junior Grade Necromancer

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 8:36 PM

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Boss of Kel’thuzad

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The only being who dared to send creatures north of Northrend

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After the weather went bad that is

languid yoke Mar 12, 2018, 8:58 PM

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Gilnean Worgen resist undeath cause of the curse

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arugal worgen don't

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the raised worgen are latter

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:03 PM

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(The real reason not every race can be a dk is because blizzard doesnt want to deal with the whiners shit about ruined immersion in a game where cows and british dogs turn into cats)

tulip sun Mar 12, 2018, 9:04 PM

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Idk how that'd break immersion, but yes
The forums would blow up

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Despite it making sense

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:04 PM

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The idea is the same idea behind why no one else is realistically ever going to become DHs

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The starting zone

tulip sun Mar 12, 2018, 9:04 PM

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Ya

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At least make some npcs appear though

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:05 PM

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They did for the pandaren.

tulip sun Mar 12, 2018, 9:05 PM

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True. Gie

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I wish they'd have her appear in legion. Just q cameo sitting in archerus

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 9:06 PM

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nah man, theyre saving her for the bolvar xpac

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shes Bolvar's Saurfang

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:06 PM

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The only other reason is that lorewise none of the newer races would have DKs that are supposed to be as powerful as the third gen dks.

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 9:08 PM

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See that would make sense, that would be a reason I could live with

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:08 PM

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Third gens (the PC DK) were risen by Arthas. While not confirmed hard, it is a soft canon that DK power levels are determined by source of ressurection. Hence why Kel'thuzads dks were no where near as powerdul as Arthas'.

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 9:09 PM

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Where as the only strong guys Bolvar has raised are the new Horseman, which we don’t know how strong they are

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:09 PM

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If Bolvar did the rezzing, but it was our own Ebon Liches doing that. So the fourth generation dks are significantly weaker.

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As for the Horseman, we can assume theyre just as strong, if not slightly stronger, than us at the moment. The power gap jumps when we remove the artifacts from the equation

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Makes sense

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:11 PM

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I lorecraft a lot when it comes to my precious deathknights.

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 9:11 PM

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We were just a focus to channel his power

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DK lore is fun stuff, I can’t blame you

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:29 PM

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So I've been hearing a lot about Kul'tiran druids and

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Tbh I hope if we do get them then the regular human models can use it too

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 9:29 PM

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I wouldn't bet on it 😛

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:29 PM

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I dig the Kul'tiran models

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 9:29 PM

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Kul'tirans are functionally a different race

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Even if they're really just thicc humans

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:30 PM

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But my old man is alas a thin boy

sharp bluff Mar 12, 2018, 9:30 PM

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They will be like Zan Pallys, a tease

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:30 PM

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Oh that'd be smart on blizzards end

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:31 PM

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Hyper knows well how mad I get about Zand pallies turning out to just be a tease

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~~I mean it's still alpha and likely they really will give us zand pallies~~

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:31 PM

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why is it likely at all tho

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:32 PM

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Considering how important religion is in Zand society, the whole gold and sun aesthetic, the multiple instances of Zand paladin NPC's.

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Why wouldn't it be likely

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:32 PM

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because blizzard killed their light god

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:32 PM

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Death ain't permanent for wild gods.

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Ask Cenarius and Malorne

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:32 PM

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Fairly certain Malfurion isn't going to be resurrecting him anytime soon

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:33 PM

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Who says they need Malfurion to rez Rezan?

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...rez rezan. Heh.

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:33 PM

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That's how the two you noted were rezzed. by him.

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 9:33 PM

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~Zanda classes aren't confirmed yet~

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~And we haven't seen like a third of the Zandalar storyline~

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:35 PM

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I still dont see the reason for such fervor on zand pallies. There's no where near this much push for KT druids.

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:35 PM

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Probably because Sunwalkers turned out to be a disappointment and

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People want a Pally whose aesthetic isn't

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"Knight in shining armor that is super good does no wrong super super super good"

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:36 PM

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Holy cow, the joke has literally written itself

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:36 PM

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They had the chance to fix it with Blood Knights and Sunwalkers and decided

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"Nah you know what they all worship the Light now"

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 9:36 PM

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I still don't see how Zanda pallies are the iconic class

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:36 PM

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They did. Blood Knights are much more militant and Sunwalkers are just plate wearing druids.

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 9:36 PM

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And the hill to die on

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But I went through this before on WrA chat like a day ago 😛

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:36 PM

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Like

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:36 PM

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The problem is that's not reflected in-game much at all anymore

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:36 PM

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when you -do- get Zand pallies

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guess what

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gameplay stays the same. abilities stay the same.

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:37 PM

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Okay well let me put it this way

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:37 PM

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It's the same paladin aesthetics because that's the gameplay of it.

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:37 PM

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What if I wanna play a pally Horde-side that isn't an elf or a giant cow

strange falcon Mar 12, 2018, 9:37 PM

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but you have to understand vris

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that fashion

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is the only thing

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that matters

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 9:37 PM

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They said a long time ago that every race's priests are very different but game mechanics force them to have the same spells

strange falcon Mar 12, 2018, 9:37 PM

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in any game

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:37 PM

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Aesthetic is the only thing that matters

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:37 PM

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Fashioncraft belongs in the mog chat

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 9:37 PM

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But that was long before the new Light/Void canon

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:37 PM

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It's true.

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:37 PM

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the same is with the paladins Hypre.

strange falcon Mar 12, 2018, 9:37 PM

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because seriously,you're going to look at that character for many years of your life

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at least make it enjoyable

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 9:38 PM

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For the moment, anyways

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:38 PM

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^

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 9:38 PM

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People, even non-RPers, like the “RP” aspect of being a Zandalari paladin.

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:38 PM

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But it wont exist

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so why is there so much push for it

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 9:38 PM

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I sure won't be surprised when they say 'oh yeah tauren and elves have been subconsciously drawing from the Light'

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I'm surprised they didn't confirm it for sure in the campaign

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 9:38 PM

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They push for it now while the game is in Alpha.

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:38 PM

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Elves first stole, then started drawing.

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 9:38 PM

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Well, paladins kind of do

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 9:39 PM

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There’s a chance they’ll change their mind.

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 9:39 PM

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Considering

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:39 PM

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Tauren were taught specifically not to do it because of the Night Elves.

rich apex Mar 12, 2018, 9:39 PM

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Zandalari classes aren't confirmed

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 9:39 PM

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Otherwise, they’d have to wait for MAYBE next expansion.

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:39 PM

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But Blyat

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none of the zandalari flare

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 9:39 PM

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All the while whining.

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:39 PM

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is added to gameplay

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it'll still be 'Judgement'

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'Crusader Strike'

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'Divine Storm'

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 9:39 PM

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Yes.

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But again.

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:39 PM

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none of the zanda flare everyones pushing for exists

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 9:39 PM

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People like the “RP” aspect.

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They like being a troll who can’t do stuff other trolls can’t.

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:40 PM

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Those people need to do what the RP community does then.

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Get the look-a-likes

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and RP it.

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 9:40 PM

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can do stuff*

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:40 PM

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Or Blizz can just

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Give the zandalari their pallies

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:40 PM

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Which are no different at all to normal paladins

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 9:41 PM

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ok, we can just go back to the Horde having shamans, and Alliance having Paladins.

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:41 PM

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Okay well why can't people want something Horde-side that isn't an elf or a cow if they wanna play pally

terse patrol Mar 12, 2018, 9:41 PM

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No Blood Elf paladins allowed.

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:41 PM

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I want the pallies if diron get shammies

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No why

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:41 PM

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Sure I'd be fine with that.

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:41 PM

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Who cares

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:41 PM

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I'm not saying 'NEVER GIVE ZANDALARI PALADINS'

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I'm saying

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'Why is this push so strong'

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:42 PM

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It's been 11 years since there was a pally difference

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:42 PM

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Because Aztec sun-warriors are cool

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Everyone likes Kotal Kahn

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:42 PM

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You can still be an Aztec sun warrior

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without paladins

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:42 PM

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And it's a class that's really important to their culture

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:42 PM

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Also yeah you can't claim "wah it's faction class balance" when we know Dark Iron are getting shammys

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:42 PM

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Im not

strange falcon Mar 12, 2018, 9:42 PM

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and maybe even

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kultiran druids

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EW

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:43 PM

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Ok new question

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Why dont u want ppl to get to be a prelate

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:43 PM

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I'm not saying that

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I'm asking why is there such a big push for it

strange falcon Mar 12, 2018, 9:43 PM

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because vris enjoys ruining others fun

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:43 PM

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Because it's their thing

strange falcon Mar 12, 2018, 9:43 PM

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it's what she feeds on

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:43 PM

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Its not? Dinomancers are their thing.

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:43 PM

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It's a huuuuge thing for them

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:43 PM

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Always have been.

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:44 PM

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They can do both
Zandalari are GOLD, DINOSAURS, ZEALOTS

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:44 PM

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It's -different- from normal trolls

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I'll give you that

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biut its far from a cornerstone of their society

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:44 PM

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They have 25000 years of doing this

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It'd be like
Well

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Like no diron shammies

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Sure you could say "blah it doesn't work anymore"

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:45 PM

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DID shamans already dont make sense considering the DIDs tried to enslave elementals andbecame enslaved themselves.

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:45 PM

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Ok

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:45 PM

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and considering we were already told DIDs WEREN'T getting Shamans, its odd to me that they're now supposedly getting them

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:45 PM

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Ok
I think it's fun

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An anvil AND A drill!

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:46 PM

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That is superb for you.

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:46 PM

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Yeah! I'm gonna make one

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:46 PM

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However, none of this answers my original question that sparked this.

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My lack of understanding of why there is such a push for Zandalari Paladins

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:46 PM

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I'm telling you why ppl want them ;-; you're just saying "no its not"

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:46 PM

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Yeah we

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We already told you why

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:47 PM

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You haven't told me one thing that says why people want them

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:47 PM

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Cus we want them.

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Because I want to RP a Zandalari paladin

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There's one reason

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:47 PM

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People want them because they are important lore wise

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:47 PM

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You can do that without the paladin class though

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They aren't important lorewise tho

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:47 PM

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They are

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:47 PM

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Where does it state this

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:47 PM

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I'll tell you

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It's tough to do d but hear me out

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Log in to a character who has flying in pandaria
Go to the vale
Start flying east, stop at the shadopam tents

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Shadopam. Omg.

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I'm keeping it

strange falcon Mar 12, 2018, 9:49 PM

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shadopam

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:49 PM

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Talk to the nice elf lady

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:49 PM

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"Vengeance is power, and the Zandalar vindicator is such power. The tribe has many enemies, and the vindicator exacts retribution on them. No crime against the Zandalari is unpunished, and the vindicator delivers this punishment.[9] The vindicator's symbol of power is the breastplate, which is forged with powerful mojo. It is trusted only to those revered within the tribe and is the Zandalar symbol of vengeance; to become a vindicator is to become vengeance"

"Zandalari prelates are Zandalari paladins. The prelates serve Rezan, and they are the highest order of holy warriors to serve any loa. Their path is the elite, taking only those gifted from birth with prowess in battle and gifted by the loa, and crafting champions of light to defend their empire. The prelates do not have any openings or handouts. After Rezan's death, the prelates are cut off from his power except for a handful of his followers.[2]"

"Heathens also have a place in the Zandalar tribe, and are known as freethinkers among the Zandalari. Freethinkers do not fear oppression and die for what they believe in.[1] Battle gear gives one power in the tribe. The freethinkers are honored in this way. They are zealots and imbue their breastplates with powerful mojo. If their beliefs falter in the face of the enemy, their breastplate will not.[2] Ancient Zandalari were branded as heretics when the Gurubashi Empire was strong. Heathens dared to challenge the priest of Hakkar, but were hunted and killed as vermin. Those heathens never wavered in their fight against the Blood God and so the tribe honors the price the freethinkers paid.[3]"

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 9:49 PM

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I mean I guarantee that even if we dont get zandalari paladins playable, we'll see warriors RPing as paladins

strange falcon Mar 12, 2018, 9:49 PM

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now i have to make a monk called like that

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:49 PM

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And she will post you to a nice island

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Stand on the island

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:49 PM

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Zandalari straight up have three different roles of paladins but

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:49 PM

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Look around you

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Done

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:49 PM

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Those are dinomancers

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not prelates

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LOL

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:50 PM

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(Please make the monk a lady)

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Oh my god I'm being trolled

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:50 PM

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You're not

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 9:50 PM

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the prelates only really have one or two looks, the sword and shield, and the poleaxes

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:50 PM

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There are prelates

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:50 PM

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The zandalari society we see, which is Zul's btw, is filled with Dinotamers and Dinomancers.

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:50 PM

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Blood Knights only really have one or two looks, the ranseur or the weird mace

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Human Paladins only really have one or two looks, a big sword or a big hammer

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:51 PM

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......I love dinomancers

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:51 PM

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We do see Witch Doctors and Loa-speakers, but we dont encounter any prelatesuntil we enter Throne of Thunder.

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:51 PM

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I adore them

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But there are prelates

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 9:51 PM

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Basically everyone in a cast follows a loa. Prelates/paladins are the ones that follow Rezan and the code that they have.

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:51 PM

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theyre a much smaller group than what people are trying to make them be

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:51 PM

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I run tot so much trying to get horridon

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So?

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How many holy preist undead are there.

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:52 PM

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I linked like three different pages of "Paladin" castes of the Zandalari but

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:52 PM

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Tell me or hush with such a silly reason

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:52 PM

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Yeah no they're a small group practically unheard of

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 9:52 PM

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Eh theyre sizeable. Kingsguard all seem to be prelates, they have their own area in the Terrace of the Chosen, unlike the other loa

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:52 PM

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Not many. But you can't use that argument as 'Priest' is a class and Holy is a spec

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:52 PM

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Right porter

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Ok how many velfs overall are there.

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:52 PM

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But so important to override Dinomancers port?

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Several thousand

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 9:52 PM

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Yes

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:52 PM

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Not override?

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You

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:52 PM

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So Prelates are more important than Dinomancers

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:52 PM

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You can have 2 classes

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No???

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

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dinomancers are under two loa, who are lesser than Rezan and his prelates

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

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You can have multiple aesthetics in a race

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Wild I know

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

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They're not more important that warriors or preists

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They just

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Exist

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

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If they're important

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theyre comparable

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

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U weirdo

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

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no?

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

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Doesn't matter

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They exist

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That's all im saying

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

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Exist and Importance are 2 seperate things m8

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:54 PM

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Okay so since there's no important gnome class NPC's

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:54 PM

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Thwy exist. This is my only point. Argue that or don't argue

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:54 PM

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I guess we should remove all gnome classes

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 9:54 PM

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In terms of society, zandalari are big on shrugging off the shadow hunter stuff and embracing their holier loa, which is why rezan is/was the loa of kings.

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:54 PM

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Man phone

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Giving me the typos huh

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:54 PM

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So you're dropping your point of 'Prelates are important to society'?

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:54 PM

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What no

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They're a part of society, and an important part of lore by existing because its cool and unique

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:55 PM

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I dont see how that makes it an important part of lore.

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:55 PM

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They're not common, and do exist

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 9:55 PM

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Zuldazar actually does make a point of showing that where some people choose Pa'ku or Gonk, everyone follows Rezan in some way

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:55 PM

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Opinion!

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Yeah!

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Rezan is KING (ish)

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:55 PM

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So everyones a prelate then?

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 9:56 PM

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No, but Prelates are a big deal, at least up till Rezan dies

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:56 PM

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That's like asking if all belfs are pallies

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Of course not

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But they all need the light

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 9:56 PM

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Theyre to zandalari what druids are to night elves

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something you aspire to be

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:56 PM

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Yeah there's actually

strange falcon Mar 12, 2018, 9:56 PM

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they're a status symbol

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:57 PM

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A NPC who straight up tells you all Zandalari are trained at least partially in priesthood

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:57 PM

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Like you said you're confused by why ppl want them, "why the push"
This is why people want them

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:57 PM

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So if people aspire to be prelates

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why are there anyone else besides prelates

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:57 PM

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You disagreeing doesn't actually change people's minds

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 9:57 PM

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same reason there are non-druid night elves

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:57 PM

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So if people aspire to be paladins in human society

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 9:57 PM

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not everyone's gifted

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:57 PM

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Why are there anyone else besides paladins

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:57 PM

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You wouldn't have to be gifted for faith tho

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:57 PM

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Like, tis the reason

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 9:58 PM

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Loa arent the light so faith isnt all that matters

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 9:58 PM

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You have to be favored by the Loa to have their power

strange falcon Mar 12, 2018, 9:58 PM

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you disagreeing so much to the point we're starting to suspect you're trolling isnt changing people's minds

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:58 PM

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We're not going to a suddenly say "Oh. It has changed. The push is because people like pally tier sets"

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You don't have mind control powers

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 9:58 PM

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but following other loa is the same way we follow different religions irl. There can be a majority, and still be accepted alternates

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 9:59 PM

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You can think it's dumb, but that's the reason ppl want em

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It just
... is

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We're talking about real humans, none of us can change them

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 9:59 PM

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Which makes me question prelates in general. As how WoW's universe works; Being a paladin is about being faithful. Sure Loa don't only take faith, but not everyone who is something can make their offerings to Rezan?

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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Uh it's like pallies

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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Again Bara, Im not.

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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Everyone can offer to Rezan, but the training to become a paladin comes from the prelate order

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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I'm trying to understand the reasoning as to why its so feverously wanted

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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same with normal paladins, everyone can worship the light, and with enough faith use it

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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Well uh

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

#

but being a paladin requires training

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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Understanding I can't help with

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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That's all I've ever asked

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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It's sort of an opinion on video games

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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why you went on this tirade I'll never know.

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:01 PM

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Because you're still talkin about it

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:01 PM

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Because you never answered my question 🤷

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:01 PM

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We did tho

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We answered your question

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Multiple times

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:01 PM

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Why people want this so feverously?

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:01 PM

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People, including all the people here, THINK it is an important lore class

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:01 PM

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You're just plugging your fingers in your ears and saying

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:02 PM

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They will not stop thinking this

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:02 PM

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heck you people have been saying I dont want y'all to have it

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for whatever reason

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:02 PM

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"Nyeh nyeh nyeh I can't hear you"

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:02 PM

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No matter what you think about them

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They will still think it

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That's the reason

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:02 PM

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alright thinking its an important thing is vastly different to it actually being important. :v

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:02 PM

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........

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You have to be trolling me

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:03 PM

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I am not

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:03 PM

#

Vris - Today at 12:01 PM
Why people want this so feverously?

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We have told you

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:03 PM

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We're you caught on one word this whole time

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:03 PM

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MANY TIMES

#

why we want it

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:03 PM

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You've told me why you wanted it

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not why its so feverously pushed.

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:03 PM

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BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:03 PM

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Well I mean it's the only reason I've seen

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:03 PM

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We've given you so many reasons why it's pushed and you still

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Are just outright refusing

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To accept that as a valid answer

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

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I've not seen a valid answer other than 'we want it'. Considering how long the Wow fanbase has wanted stuff.

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

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I guess someone out there might want tier sets or maybe because they don't like tauren or belfs? But the majority want it for lore, I feel pretty safe in saying

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

#

Vris - Today at 12:01 PM
Why people want this so feverously?

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This question

#

This question right here?

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

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They want it because lore

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

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what is the discussion about right now?

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

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You see what the fuck this question is?

#

It's a question about opinion.

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Okay.

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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Prelates and why people are feverously pushing for it

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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We gave you our opinion

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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Why people want zan pallies

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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they are pushing for it because people want it

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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as after these guys are screaming at me, I dont understand it.

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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You're telling us that "No actually that's not your opinion"

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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its as simple as that

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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What the Fuck else do you want dude

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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i dont care one way or another

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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Like I sincerely think you're just trolling at this point

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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but that is why they are pushing

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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I'm not

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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people want them

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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and i haven't said that

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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They have to be

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No one is so stupid

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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they dont neccesarily have a need other than the internal want

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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I can understand that peach.

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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then thats it

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:06 PM

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"I want this"
"No you dont"

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:06 PM

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some people want them for lore

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:06 PM

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;_; peach I said that like 6 times

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:06 PM

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but they are being pretty clear with the fact that the existed past tense

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b/c of rezan's death

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:06 PM

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Peach isnt the one screaming at me/calling me stupid tho.

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:06 PM

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anyone pushing for paladins after rezan's death without some kind of rezan resurrection endgame questline is being ignorant

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zandalari arent going to change their beliefs

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tauren becoming paladins has a lore reason

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and it took a long time

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:07 PM

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I mean

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The Prelates themselves

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:07 PM

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zandalari are essentially trained in one way of paladinship

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and they lose it

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:07 PM

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Straight up tell you "Oh by the way some of us still have our powers but we will be viewed as suspicious"

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:07 PM

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its like being blinded or losing your legs

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no they dont

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they say that they have lost their connection to rezan

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and that with it, they lost their powers

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

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"We are broken.

The light of Rezan has left us. Only a handful of those that followed the great king of the loa will have any sort of power, and even they are suspect.

Our life was devotion itself. Now who do we become?"

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

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One of you post a picture

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Or quote

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

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any sort of power

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

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There we go

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

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any

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

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Uh

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

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not specifically paladin

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magic in general

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

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Man dont

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

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Looks into the camera

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

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and as they said, it would be suspicious

proud karma Mar 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

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A pally ain't talking about druid powers

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

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Yeah man far be it from any class being suspicious

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

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in all liklihood, if people push for zandalari paladins, they might do it

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:09 PM

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Calmly sweeps DK's, Warlocks, Orc Mages, and Demon Hunters under the bed

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 10:09 PM

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I mean, tbf, allied races were mostly just an "I want it" mentality too. They made the story make sense but in the end they just pushed things because people wanted them playable

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:09 PM

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along with hopefully some type of end game quest line

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:09 PM

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Dks have always been suspect tho

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same with locks.

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:09 PM

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different kind of suspicion

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:09 PM

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Yea I getcha Peach

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:09 PM

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one is about the power itself (warlocks, DKs, Demon hunters)

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:09 PM

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It's pretty suspect to use light

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with no light god

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:09 PM

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^

heavy cairn Mar 12, 2018, 10:09 PM

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☑

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:09 PM

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it means that they didnt believe in their loa

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which is sacrilige

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

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other loa give the light

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

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it would get them killed or exiled

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

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yea well

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

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but these are prelates of rezan

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

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tell the zandalari that

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

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if you have been training with them all your life

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

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I still expect rezan to come back somehow

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

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and he dies and everyone but you loses their power

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then either you werent following rezan

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

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Yeah I'm 99.9% Rezan will be revived

uncut vault Mar 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

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between Torga resurrecting as a smaller self, and the questline to grow small dinos into massive ones

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

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or there is something wrong

teal fiber Mar 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

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Because death isn't permanent for wild gods

dense plover Mar 12, 2018, 10:11 PM

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i suspect there will be a rezan resurrection questline

hollow dock Mar 12, 2018, 10:11 PM

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well ofc. Wild Gods go to the dream when they 'die'.