Actually I think that's just the exact model
#beta-ptr-spoilers
hollow dock
steel venture
its the exact model
steel venture
old god stuff.
hollow dock
These all look like rare NPCs
dense plover
some are
hollow dock
so hidden around the isle
steel venture
so expect the old-god enslaved elementals to show up again
dense plover
i thought when we killed rag and put that other guy in charge, we freed the firelands of old god corruption?
hollow dock
We changed managment yes
steel venture
As if N'zoth won't try to enslave them again?
hollow dock
but Old Gods can still go and re-enslave them
jade basalt
May be related to the Island Expeditions, we know one of the random things is Elementals showing up
hollow dock
Oh yea. That's right.
dense plover
adding elementals into the mix
steel venture
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=53691/shannox
also yeah its just this model
hollow dock
Ye.
steel venture
its not an HD anything, it was just a well made cata model
meager warren
Lord Gazzran is bootyful
jade basalt
Except for the face. The hunter Firelands helm has a better face.
steel venture
Flamewalkers are basically just Salamanders from DnD, hence the reuse of the naga skeleton.
same concept.
half-humanoid-half-snake
but both flamewalkers in WoW and salamanders in DnD are the #fire version of them
vast mirage
any thoughts on what new alliance allied race will be? đ
terse patrol
Salamanders are annoying as piss in d&d
vast mirage
maybe some sort of night elfs?
terse patrol
they already got nightborne
terse patrol
Apparently not.
jade basalt
Some Tirasian are druids
So if they ever become an allied race they may possibly get druids
I think they said they liked the idea of giving shaman to Horde & druids to Alliance
Or something like that
hollow dock
GAH THAT THUMBNAIL FROM DOLAN
terse patrol
grom gunna come from the alternate universe and be like âim takin over step aside thotâ
grom backhands sylvanas
hollow dock
"Begon Tđ ±HOT
earnest blaze
That would be awesome.
vast mirage
@jade basalt well they gave 2 druids to horde already xD
im so curious to see the new alliance allied race
i cant wait
T_T
hope it comes out soon
earnest blaze
They said August or September, right?
meager warren
"step aside thot"
đ
vast mirage
why august or september? the new horde one is known already
hollow dock
Because they have to work on it?
earnest blaze
Oh, I'm thinking of the xpac itself.
hollow dock
it's pretty clear though its just Kul'tiras humans
hollow dock
Thin and fat humans
vast mirage
why does sombody want that.
hollow dock
Thin
vast mirage
why not add that to costumization
vast mirage
of humans
jade basalt
Official release date is "on or before September 21st" but that's just a general date, they said the same date for Legion and it came out August 30
hollow dock
because the customization UI is a nightmare
vast mirage
instead of new allied race
hollow dock
why not just add everything the allied races are to the customization?
meager warren
phat humans
vast mirage
fat and thin humans is just stupid lol
hope its not it.
i will be very dissapointed
hollow dock
The point of allied races is so they don't have to deal with the nightmare that is the customization UI
jade basalt
Burly humans are awesome
hollow dock
Allied races are made to expand customization and diversity
the only thing humans dont have is the option to not be hulks or sticks
earnest blaze
Vulperas.
vast mirage
or dwarfs
hollow dock
No they aren't
None of them are humans
Gnomes come from Mechanognomes, Dwarves from earthen, Night elves come from trolls
earnest blaze
I forget the lore for where humans came from.
proud karma
and something has to balance mag'har
hollow dock
Vrykul
meager warren
lemme be a hunched over Zandalari Troll or a straight-backed Darkspear Troll.
Gimme moose horns for Thunder Bluff Tauren and Cow Horns for High Mountain Tauren.
They need to give us customization on the scale of BDO's
vast mirage
theres got to be more lol
hollow dock
There isn't much.
proud karma
oh. statues turned into vrykul which became small
rich apex
Thicc elves?
hollow dock
Yes.
rich apex
Madness
earnest blaze
Oh right, the Vrykuls.
hollow dock
Stormforged that became the Vrykul we see and then they eventually degraded into Humans we know
proud karma
there isnt. i'd love to hear some but alliance has no (playable possible) friends
meager warren
Does WoW have a god of madness type figure?
hollow dock
Every single old god @meager warren
earnest blaze
God of Madness? Hmm.
meager warren
wrong tag, Vris
earnest blaze
Maybe Loken?
hollow dock
Loken's a watcher
The Old Gods are the only things that cause madness.
that and the void. but old gods are void.
meager warren
they're connected to the void but they're a little different
earnest blaze
Well, if we're talking the Old Gods then I would suggest N'zoth.
hollow dock
Theyre made by the void lords and shot into our reality
meager warren
yes but they're not just void
hollow dock
All 4 of em cause madness. No specific one is specialized in anything.
They are of the void.
meager warren
'of' doesn't mean 'are'
steel venture
tbh.
you could assume that the horrific bodies of the old gods are the void's attempt at trying to consolotate into reality.
it would explain the "too many eyes, too many mouths, giant mountains of flesh" thing.
hollow dock
that is the point of them. To shoot out and infect everything.
steel venture
yep.
so they're void entities flesh-ified.
they are void, and of the void at the same time.
its an illogical paradox
because nothing about the void is supposed to make sense
earnest blaze
True none of have the title of God of Madness but N'zoth is the biggest shit talkoer of them all.
hollow dock
Notreally. N'zoth is the most patient of themall.
N'zoth has hardly had any impact and has simply waited. Bided his time. Built his forces.
He opens the door and slinks back into the Shadows. Yogg-saron does the most talking tbh
C'thun simply observes.
meager warren
G'hunn has had the least amount of impact unless they decide to screw up the lore even further.
"Yeah, [player character name] you remember there only being [however many there were] old gods? Nope, there's one more now."
"What"
hollow dock
G'huun isnt a true old god.
steel venture
how many times do we gotta say that g'huun was made by the titans
hollow dock
G'huun is an artificially created being, how and for what purpose is unknown, by the titan keepers.
steel venture
like
we dont know WHY
but he was created
so he's not a true old god in the slightest
hollow dock
Me and Peach have settled on the idea that G'huun was made to eat out the old gods.
hollow dock
Using their blood so he wouldn't corrupt by eating them, he'd burrow down and simply eat the parasite out.
Yea Gnolls are still left undone
steel venture
GNOLLS PLS.
they're updating regular hyenas finally so update our hyena people too
meager warren
gnolls are ugly af tho
hollow dock
It'd be so amazing to see gnolls with those Hyena updates.
steel venture
so were the old hyena models
meager warren
we already have gnomes and goblins.
pls keep gnolls away
steel venture
the old hyena models were ugly as SIN
hollow dock
Ikr
steel venture
honestly i wouldnt mind playable gnolls
meager warren
gnolls are supposed to look ugly.
those aren't true gnolls
steel venture
mongrel horde actually joining the horde would be cool
rich apex
Hogger did nothing wrong
steel venture
hyenas aren't actually stupid slavering scavengers. ik. surprising right? they're apex predators that are more successful than lions.
rich apex
Humans are the real invaders
steel venture
gnoll wars proved that if actually unified gnolls can be a TERRIFYING force too
rich apex
Hogger is the result of hundreds of years of gnoll oppression
hollow dock
#hoggerdidnothingwrong
steel venture
... yknow though
steel venture
if gnolls in any game actaully followed how spotted hyenas acted
hogger would've been female.
fun fact.
the biggest, most aggressive, and most dominant spotted hyenas that lead the group are always female
terse patrol
Gnoll race when
meager warren
ye.
usually females are the most dominant gender in pretty much every species but human
proud karma
hogger was a girl everyone was just confused
steel venture
yeah it doesnt help that a lot of things about spotted hyenas confuse people
proud karma
clownfish too! there's one dominant female per group, and if she dies the second in command, a male, becomes female and takes over as leader
terse patrol
The ones on the cover art are cute gnolls
I wanna play one
Yip yip.
Their entire starting zone questline would be finding increasingly exotic bones to gnaw on.
olive mirage
im cosplaying as the next expansion http://puu.sh/zuccC/ef4700fc39.jpg
strange falcon
Human druids
uncut vault
theyve got the tubbiness for it, casting animations fit
meager warren
they should change nelf druids treant form to a burning tree
tropic trail
That new Paladin Retri Mastery change is full of win.
hollow dock
what did it change to?
zinc sandal
It increases Holy damage dealt.
tropic trail
Instead of Judgement then holy power spender
steel venture
http://bfa.wowhead.com/npc=130122/speaker-iknal
SPITS OUT DRINK
DARK TROLLS ARE ALIVE?!!!!!!!! THEY DIDNT DIE OUT IN CATA?!!!!
steel venture
IDK BUT THIS CHICK IS IN THE ZANDALAR EMBASSY
ALONGSIDE MULTIPLE OTHER TRIBES
SO THEY ARE
ALIVE.
hollow dock
Alright well. They did survive and never went underground.
they simply stopped existing and then suddenly existed
zinc sandal
O_O
hollow dock
maybe thats the power of dark trolls
zinc sandal
New Allied Race: Dark Trolls
Active Racial: Cease to exist for an undefined amount of time.
hollow dock
Active Racial - Aura: Cease to exist for an indeterminate amount of time until blizzard says so.
zinc sandal
Sounds accurate. When are we getting them?
terse patrol
Alliance Dark Trolls when
uncut vault
that racials already taken by high elves
tropic trail
have dark trolls even been mentioned to still be around, outside of WC3 of course.
terse patrol
They got mentioned in quest text
hollow dock
Brann hasn't been able to locate them anywhere in his travels.
terse patrol
Can assume they went to live underground for a while
Iâm hoping they give them diplomatic ties with the Night Elves though.
The Shadowtooth Tribe aided them at Hyjal.
hollow dock
yea. During the third war. they haven't been seen since.
tropic trail
is there new evidence of them showing up in legion?
terse patrol
I hope they get cool models
tulip sun
But I doubt they will go alliance
terse patrol
IF they were made an allied race, I doubt theyâd go Horde tho
tulip sun
Y?
tropic trail
they'd just be purple trolls
tulip sun
I mean, depends on how zandalar quests go
terse patrol
People would want Revantusk.
tulip sun
Who agrees with the zandalar joining the horde, etc
Forest trolls are a guarantee I am thinking in the future
tropic trail
if memory serves they didn't really like the other trolls and kinda separated themselves from them
terse patrol
Giving the Alliance a troll race would be pretty sick.
terse patrol
Revantusk are strongly Horde loyal ye
tulip sun
All these old things coming back is amazing
terse patrol
Though I think the Wildhammers kicked them out of their home in BFA
tropic trail
I feel like horde have a much larger pool of potential allied races to pull from
terse patrol
The Alliance kicked the Horde out of the EK, besides Silvermoon.
Unless they make Aerie Peak a Warfront
hollow dock
all of EK is alliance
tulip sun
I don't know the map very well, but technically we are holding a front where ever that wavefront is
hollow dock
all of Kalmindor is Horde
tulip sun
Warfront*
hollow dock
Arathi is the hordes hold out in EK outside of silvermoon
terse patrol
The Horde is invading Stromgarde
Weâre waiting to see where the Alliance warfront is on Kalimdor
hollow quiver
Isnât the undercity in ek aswell?
hollow dock
Yes
tulip sun
Where is the revantusk compared to rhaf
tulip sun
That, stromgarde
hollow dock
Revantusk is on the other side of the continent
terse patrol
Revantusk are in the Hinterlands. They are at war with the Wildhammer Clan.
hollow quiver
Ohh spoilers xD
hollow quiver
Lol Iâm not mad it was my b for tuning in
terse patrol
I think, lorewise, the Hinterlands are 100% Wildhammer now.
tulip sun
VENGENCE FOR THE REVANTUSK
terse patrol
Though, Legion quest text says the Wildhammers lands were destroyed by the Legion. They might just mean the Twilight Highlands.
tulip sun
But I heard that someone mentioned a forest troll commander in a warfront?
tulip sun
And I heard that the legion had them scattered too
terse patrol
The only troll commander in the Warfronts is Rokhan
tulip sun
I am really curious how the commanders will work canonly
terse patrol
tbh lorewise, the Alliance and Horde are unlikely to retake their old lands
You canât rebuild a burnt tree.
tulip sun
It is called magic, it can be done xD
tropic trail
you can when that tree was grown wicked fast
tulip sun
I do like the updated reason Sylvanas gives for the attack
I feel better and justified now
hollow dock
Considering magic can WILL ENTIRE CIVILIZATIONS INTO EXISTANCE yea
i'd say magic can repair a burnt tree
terse patrol
My guess is, the Dark Iron will have access to Azerite somewhere in the EK.
tropic trail
dalaran has been rebuilt multiple times, I have no doubt we can rebuild lordaeron with the help of paladins and priests to cleanse the blight and plague
terse patrol
where
tropic trail
so are brown orcs going to be available at launch? they seem pretty far along
terse patrol
Most likely.
tulip sun
My prediction, despite them stating otherwise, is Dark Iron and Draenor Orcs maybe at launch? Then kul'tirans and zandalari after questing. Makes more sense to me
uncut vault
Thaelin has a hideout in Zandalar
uncut vault
I dont expect either at launch, tbh. Dark Irons and Draenor Orcs will probably be tied to exalted at a rep
most likely the War Efforts
terse patrol
I doubt weâll get playable Hozen
tropic trail
hozen just don't look like their model would do well as playable
tulip sun
But could you explain porter?
I mean, don't gotta be playable.
But have em' join the horde and make npcs often
They already allied, I just want to see the unplayable races more. Ogres, Hozen, Tol'vir, etc.
Which they do have in the harbor
So I am happy
terse patrol
My guess is, they might use the Dark Trolls to explore the Night Elf lore pre-Well.
As in, when they were still trolls
terse patrol
what is this shit screen
tulip sun
I wonder if they will have any troll tribes join the alliance, due to the zandalari joining horde. Maybe they oppose it.
uncut vault
I more mean I expect we'll deal with their induction scenarios like we do with the other allied races once we hit exalted with the War Effort factions
Deal with the non-Moira dark irons in shadowforge, help out the draenor orcs in gorgrond
terse patrol
The only ones that would remotely join the Alliance are Dark Trolls.
tulip sun
I don't know what these war effort factions are.
terse patrol
All others hate humans.
tulip sun
I am hoping by the end of the questing, we have most if not all troll tribes at least friendly with the Horde.
uncut vault
We dont really know either, but I assume theyre the factions tied to the Warfronts and Island Expeditions
It's the Horde War Effort and Alliance War Effort
tulip sun
Are they simply called 'War Effort'?
tropic trail
there's like zero info about the warfronts yet
uncut vault
Im pretty sure each faction has 4-5 of their own, then one shared one with Magni
uncut vault
Yes
tulip sun
Oh wow
uncut vault
I'll try to find the lines
tulip sun
I love wow, but if it was still an RTS, they'd be able to make more people join factions like they truly said. A world divided.
There are new hozen apparently....well idk how new, but hozen with wings with the monkey king
uncut vault
these are the factions
I'd assume tortollan and magni are neutral
then one per zone for each faction
meager warren
i thought hozen were a mop race.
how'd they get to Zandalar/ Pandaria, either way?
meager warren
o
tulip sun
They have their own special area xD. Tol'vir, as well as Valarjar are in Zandalar too
hollow dock
the monkey king gets around
tulip sun
I wonder if there will be a variety in Kul'Tiras too
uncut vault
but all the ones we've seen are embassies in Zuldazar
meager warren
are they from pandaria or zandalar tho
tulip sun
I just find it curious that he is in the troll zone
uncut vault
theres an Alliance one in Boralus too
tulip sun
An alliance what?
tulip sun
No, wowhead has nothing for Boralus
and that is the only place I know how to get too, lol
I guess mmochamp has some diff stuff?
Each race has it's own little like area, I love it
Oh, I almost forgot Tuskarr are there.
uncut vault
But the actual faction names if I remember correctly are House Waycrest, House Stormsong, House Proudmoore for Alliance only, Vulpera, Zandalari, and something with the Loa I cant remember for Horde, then Tortollan Seekers and The Speaker as neutral
tulip sun
To make this max enjoyment though, I need to see a Taunka xD
I know Tortollans interact with the horde a good bit involving a loa named Torga....I wonder how the alliance does.
Vulpera being horde only just speaks allied race to me...
uncut vault
In a future patch, maybe. Who knows.
tulip sun
I am curious how the person looks in-game?
I saw straight-backed forsaken too
so many interesting things
Oculeth is even there â€
Korkron are back, and even highmountain are in it!!
oohohhh, I see a pandaren too
uncut vault
Theyre not exactly straight backed naturally
its just a guard stance some races have
wild pewter
Honestly I'd just like BFA rep to be done like Legion.
uncut vault
I want it to be done just like Legion, minus the intense RNG on paragon rewards
tulip sun
Not as exciting at the Zuldazar ones.....maybe they just added more for zuldazar first o.O
uncut vault
increase the rep required for the first chest, but make the reward a guaranteed drop on the first chest would be đ for me
wild pewter
Yeah true.
hollow dock
she looks like a normal frost troll with slightly dark skin Khamnin
You can click on that link and then hit 'View in 3D' to see the model
wild pewter
I just don't want to faff about with rep, I even didn't mind doing dailies. Lion's Landing and Isle of Thunder were ace.
hollow dock
then dont do em if ya dont wanna do em
tulip sun
Hmm
wild pewter
Vris who pissed in your cornflakes?
tulip sun
This broadcast text is interesting on MMOCHAMP
meager warren
u did, Echo
wild pewter
You're always so negative to everyone đ
tulip sun
Apparently the alliance try to make a foothold in Zandalar at some point
wild pewter
Where did I say "I don't want to do rep"?
hollow dock
: I just don't want to faff about with rep,
wild pewter
I don't want to faff about - e.g, make it more complicated that it needs to be.
wild pewter
British slang, friend đ
hollow dock
faff where I am from means 'mess with, prolong'
wild pewter
Exactly, no need to make it sillier than it needs to be.
I like the current format and hope they stick with it.
meager warren
you don't want to mess with it, yet you don't mind doing it?
that doesn't make any sense
wild pewter
You're completely misunderstanding what I am saying?
hollow dock
You're the one using misleading language .-.
meager warren
"I don't want to faff about with rep" = "i don't want to mess with rep"
wild pewter
That literally isn't what that statement means đ
meager warren
that literally is what you just said it means
hollow dock
that's what faff means where I am, and it echos over with my friend in london.
wild pewter
Righty I'm just going to block you two, I mostly see arguments from you two spawning anyway.
meager warren
about time
hollow dock
If you're faffing about, it means you're just dicking around. If you dont want to faff with something, it means you generally dont want to do it.
meager warren
^
wild pewter
For some reason not wanting to faff about with something and just get it done makes no sense... Riiight. đ
đź Awesome!
uncut vault
one step closer to a patch about setting up their wedding
thats the real end of BfA, faction conflict is resolved via them getting married
wild pewter
I'd subscribe to that theory
hollow dock
I wonder what their reasoning for sticking together is
uncut vault
love
uncut vault
but really, probably just a matter of "demons still exist, we're good at killing them"
uncut vault
Kul Tiras I assume
uncut vault
makes sense, only two places in the world to not have the protection of us glorious hobo murderers
tulip sun
I love the hair styles
hollow dock
Like three of those are imported from the pandaren
tulip sun
and I didn't see some of those on wowhead....am I blind
and I don't see any that are copies from pandaren
uncut vault
WoWhead kinda chose the worst color to show off the cool details
hollow dock
The ponytail with the bang, the ponytail with no bang, and the pigtail
hollow dock
in the exact samestyle as the pandarenthough?
the night elf and blood elf ponytails are different đ€
tulip sun
It is not like they copied the asset over
and these hairstyles make me wanna play an orc
hollow dock
They copy assets for hair styles all the time tho
tulip sun
The normal orc ones are decent at best...
uncut vault
I really like the cornrow like hair with the two front braids
hollow dock
that second to last one on the bottom row is the nelf pigtails
tulip sun
All races are in the korkron đ
hollow dock
Nice. They're no longer racist clearly.
tulip sun
Even a PANDA
uncut vault
nightborne korkron, lmao
tulip sun
I love this
Everything is being represented in Zandalar
This expansion could not come soon enough
terse patrol
meager warren
wot's Knaifu?
meager warren
?
hollow dock
Our Knaifu
uncut vault
knaifu
meager warren
o
hollow dock
Knife waifu
strong python
My knaifu
meager warren
should've known. ;-;
hollow dock
RIP in peperonies our Knaifu
uncut vault
I understand why she isnt, but Im a bit disappointed that once again its Nathanos out in the field, with Sylvanas nowhere to be seen
strong python
Rip
strong python
She needs an executioner
uncut vault
I vote for Legion felguard #486
meager warren
hopefully the Horde players will be able to kill her in BfA
uncut vault
executed Voljin pretty well
tranquil wave
DEATH TO THE HORDE!!!! GLORY TO THE ALLIANCE!!!
uncut vault
Death to the glory
hollow dock
why not
uncut vault
horde to the alliance
hollow dock
death to horde and alliance
meager warren
LOK'TAR OGAR
strong python
We need a coup to overthrow Sylvanas
meager warren
agreed
meager warren
and then we hand Sylvannas over to the Alliance, which may hopefully make them hate the Horde less
rich apex
Saurfang: i must protect the integrity of the horde from sylvanas
Also Saurfang: lemme just recruit the guy who was going to wipe out the draenei and didn't even have the fel to excuse his actions this time around
meager warren
it could also be Green Jesus or the ded elf
hollow dock
rich apex
Eitrigg: garrosh is out of control, we must stop him
Also Eitrigg: hey grom, remember that time your son from the future showed up and convinced you all to rampage against your own people? good times.
meager warren
Thrall: Oh, not again. Guess we should wait until he calms down. Wanna play cards?
hollow dock
Also Eitrigg: "Grom. Come back baby, please. We didn't mean it when we said your sons crazy, save us from the undead thot"
rich apex
Baine: the horde needs a leader that isn't a raging warmongerer
tulip sun
I wonder how leadership will be done for the mag'har
meager warren
Grom: "Go away, i'm try'na sleep!"
rich apex
Thrall: hey how about grom
tulip sun
Will they have clan leaders then like, a head leader
jade basalt
Yrel is the orc leader now.
meager warren
or, Yrel?
rich apex
I doubt it
rich apex
Assuming Jale and lasan will ever be seen in more than one quest
hollow dock
Jale and Lasan are unseen the entire expac as they repopulate highmountain
rich apex
Well, someone has to after Maylas' volunteered them into the meat grinder of a war they have no stake in
tulip sun
Lasan is invokes in infiltrating stormwind
Involed
Involved
And brings skyhorn eagles for everyone to ride
So they will be involved
hollow dock
watch blizzard stop ignoring characters as Golden pushes to use more side characters more often
garbage creatures they are. Sethrakk are right for devouring them.
steel venture
i am dreading the RP that'll come out of them
hollow dock
that's why we're club Sneeple
steel venture
even if they get more of a backstory than "the poor cute race being tormented by evil snakes"
hollow dock
sneeples eat the Feeples.
steel venture
you're still going to have furries ruin them
like how furries ruined pandaren and worgen
hollow dock
It really hasn't.
hollow dock
ur not even alliance
meager warren
what does that have to do with anything
hollow dock
and honestly
with the RP community I'm in
the 'bad draenei and belf rpers' have all but disappeared
steel venture
I've seen people RP as worgen puppies despite that being literally impossible.
furries will ruin vulpera.
furries will use vulpera to RP "baby worgen" or other travesties
dude im in the fandom too
and even i know
its not even a small part of the fandom that does this crap
its a very, very large one. in all reality.
steel venture
tbh i've only seen three major things come out of people who were bronies
rich apex
Vulpera are going to ruin RP
Right after DHs ruin RP
And pandas
Worgen
Blood elves
DKs
steel venture
bronies have like, three routes:
they either ended up supremasists
turned out to be LGBT+
or turned out to be just calm, liberal people.
hollow dock
fkin furries
meager warren
and let's not forget radfems
hollow dock
hey whoat
zinc sandal
Watch your mouth
hollow dock
bad comment
meager warren
<@&299347348847329281>
hollow dock
really bad comment considering what just happened
rotund sorrel
hello
barren latch
This channel again?
zinc sandal
Really bad comment overall.
meager warren
bad comment above
hollow dock
I did no such thing
tawny tree
Mane I told you earlier aswell.
meager warren
mane, did Vris force you at gunpoint to make that joke
tawny tree
There will be no further warnings from now on. If you do it again. Then good luck.
hollow dock
I haven't even gotten a warning and I'd say Im a more provocative person.
meager warren
:murloc:
hollow dock
Edgy's emote privalges still gone
meager warren
Why can't i use emotes
rotund sorrel
Let's just say its your behaviour overall. Not the time frame or the channel
hollow dock
yea like the pewds thing right?
rotund sorrel
let's get back on track
hollow dock
yes Vulpera hating
languid yoke
Sethrak are not gonna happen
steel venture
Vulpera also only had painted on eyes though for the start of their development?
And less skin colors / customization / etc?
languid yoke
eh they had a good amount of skin colors and customization in the first build, just yeah painted on eyes
definitely not less than HMT/LFD
steel venture
I doubt we won't get at least a beast race for the Alliance though if Vulpera happen.
languid yoke
it won't be sethrak, they would not fit at all to alliance
steel venture
If not Sethrak, maybe Quilboar, given the fact that there's a few that are using tauren animations.
zinc sandal
Or Furbolg. They're good friends with Night Elves. I think there are quite a few living in Teldrassil.
languid yoke
Quilboar, Tuskarr, Saberon (I wished), Furbolg
west relic
I'm just going to make this apparent to all here.
We do not tolerate the kind of behavior and comments Mane displayed earlier, as such, they have been banned.
If anyone else reading this would like the same treatment, step right up.
languid yoke
Jinyu
west relic
zinc sandal
Savage.
jovial coral
Would be neat I guess
meager warren
savage x2
barren latch
Wait what we can play as cute foxes?
meager warren
no
barren latch
BfA is improving!
zinc sandal
Hopefully not
barren latch
No? đŠ
meager warren
not yet. idk about later on
barren latch
But
rustic mountain
Jinyu would be awesome
languid yoke
we will get them one day
steel venture
It'll be likely. I'd assume 8.2.
meager warren
?
them being in dressing room doesn't mean we're going to play them
barren latch
Oh
languid yoke
they are just NPC for now but I'm so gonna hl the shit out of Vris when they get confirmed allied race
barren latch
I should read after the first line lul
Vulpera are not a confirmed Allied Race, but we've added them to the Dressing Room!
Good me đ
rustic mountain
Yeah they get underwear they will most likely be playable sometime in bfa maybe like 6 months after release
languid yoke
male look slightly female in underwear
barren latch
Is the first time we see such race right?
zinc sandal
Yeah
languid yoke
small fox furball? Yeah
rustic mountain
Yep their first appearance in WoW
jovial coral
Would vulpera get a capital city
steel venture
Preorder - Nightborne, Highmountain, Lightforged, and Void elves.
Launch - Zandalari and Dark Iron
8.1 - Kul Tirans and Mag'har
8.2 - Vulpera and ??? (or Sethrak)
8.3 - Naga, perhaps? If there is a group that betrays Azshara.
My predictions for allied races thus far though.
languid yoke
probably w/e their hometown is
meager warren
FLOOF INVASION
barren latch
I'd name them "vulpix" đ
barren latch
More elfs xanuzar? đŠ
zinc sandal
Don't go crazy on allied races
barren latch
No naga allowed pls
zinc sandal
We won't get 20 per expansion
hollow dock
Seriously I dont think they'll go crazy on those races
zinc sandal
We're lucky to get 2
languid yoke
we're getting 4 with bfa
rustic mountain
Maybe naga will get to be able to control their transformation after we defeat Azshara and get two forms such as Worgen do
hollow dock
That's just an overload of things no one wants to keep redoing
zinc sandal
4? Where?
languid yoke
at least 4
well, Zandalari, DID, Mag'har and w/e Alliance counterpart is
that's 4
steel venture
We are at least getting four with BFA.
Zandalari and Dark Iron are locked until launch.
zinc sandal
Oh okay
steel venture
Mag'har will likely be alongside Kul Tirans.
hollow dock
four with preorder
languid yoke
that's 8 then
zinc sandal
damn
languid yoke
yeah 8
zinc sandal
Lotta races
hollow dock
that's to much IMO
steel venture
Blizzard did state though we will continue to get them throughout BFA. So who knows what the stopping point will be.
zinc sandal
Let's remove you.
hollow dock
they stated that -maybe- we'll keep getting them
and lets remove Vulpera
that way we get more room
rustic mountain
Letâs get account wide rep gain first
steel venture
delete vulpera
hollow dock
no thanks
languid yoke
Nah messlet you are also on my list of people I have to hl spam
just like xanuzar and EdgyTroll
hollow dock
Rep should not beaccount wide
languid yoke
đŠ
meager warren
someone called?
zinc sandal
hl spam?
languid yoke
hl spam
rustic mountain
You enjoy grinding rep on alts? Days of reps when you could be doing something else?
meager warren
hl spam?
languid yoke
I know someone who wants to get everything exalted that got in touch with their char
steel venture
rewards from reputation should be acc wide though at least at this point.
languid yoke
I got to listen to him once complaining that he accidentally clicked on a fishing rep guy in w/e legion zone and was like "shit now I have to fish x.x"
steel venture
it's
really dumb that i can't use a nightfallen tabard on a nightborne
zinc sandal
Rep concerning allied races should be account-wide. Otherwise, no.
steel venture
because i gotta be "exalted" with them on said character.
rich apex
No such thing as too many races
hollow dock
I dont have to grind rep on alts
steel venture
when its like
i am a nightborne though
hollow dock
There's nothing on my alts I need to rep grind for.
rustic mountain
Yeah allied races should be able to use their own reps Tabards lol
languid yoke
xanuzar: Same deal with humans having to be exalted with stormwind to.... wear their cloak
hollow dock
same
languid yoke
allied races get their tabard at creation
hollow dock
and that's all the rep I ever do
languid yoke
faction is something entirely different
you might be part of their faction
but you're just friendly with them
you have no status in that faction
you gotta earn that
hollow dock
One or two weeks of grinding during DMF
languid yoke
even if you're a nightborne
hollow dock
and that's all I really do.
steel venture
They've recently removed the reputation requirements on most toys though?
So why not tabards?
meager warren
but we start at lvl 20 on allied races.
why should we earn that when our characters should have already
hollow dock
because toys are accountbound.
languid yoke
pls remove faction requirements I want orgrimmar set on alliance chars
steel venture
Tabard appearances ALSO are account bound.
languid yoke
tabards are accbound too
hollow dock
Tabard apperances are. the physical tabard isnt.
languid yoke
I'm still wondering if and when they get rid of all the profession toy requirements
so I don't have to get engineering on every fucking alt
steel venture
But to use the appearance in transmog, you still have to be exalted with it.
rustic mountain
They said during blizzcon that they basically want you to experience their world with each alt you create and that involves grinding out all the same rep that you already have on another character apparently
hollow dock
Im wondering when they get rid of requirements andany sense of work in this game already
zinc sandal
Why would I want the physical tabard when I have the appearance?
meager warren
only some tabards are account wide.
MoP and WoD tabards aren't account-bound
hollow dock
Like: why bother working for anything?
steel venture
EX: I'm going to have to regrind Wardens rep on my new warden character. //smallviolin
languid yoke
[insert "noone likes WoD" here]
steel venture
Despite paragoning MULTIPLE times with the Wardens on my main.
meager warren
"[a friend] that can be bought isn't a true [friend]."
hollow dock
Why have such trivial things like work.
Just remove it, really give the fantasy that all players hate
rustic mountain
Maybe when the new exp comes out they will change old exp rep up to be easier to obtain or something
steel venture
Okay, Vris. You gotta admit though at least for the allied races, not being able to use an Army of the Light tabard on a fucking Lightforged is ridiculous.
meager warren
rep gives fantasy imo
hollow dock
Being able to use the shadows as a lightforged is already rediculous
meager warren
or at least, it contributes to the story
zinc sandal
I have fantasies with your face, Arso
hollow dock
playing through CATACLYSM as a LIGHTFORGED is rediculous
languid yoke
you get an EXTRA tabard
meager warren
aww. i feel loved, mess <3
languid yoke
when you make your LFD
hollow dock
All of that is perfectly fine and dandy
rustic mountain
The thing I want most in WoW is an overhaul of their customization for races. They are pretty behind with other mmorpgs donât you think?
hollow dock
A SINGLE TABARD THAT DOESN'T CHANGE GAMEPLAY AT ALL?!?!!!?!!?!
that breaks everything
stop the presses
meager warren
hey, you wanna go complain to blizz, ur welcome to
steel venture
... Which is exactly my argument though.
If it's a cosmetic, why bother keeping it locked as long as its within logical sense?
hollow dock
to far to far
languid yoke
here's hoping Goblins and Worgen benefit first of the added customization from DH/Allied Races
hollow dock
Because its cosmetic
that's why they lock it
specifically because its cosmetic
the idea of rep tabards is that people got to show off 'Hey, I earned my exaulted status with this race on this character'
that's the whole idea and blizz tried to do away with that idea
rustic mountain
At least the did say that worgens and goblins will get something done to them in this expansion
steel venture
I can transmog a shovel.
hollow dock
Something? goblins are getting a tweak and worgen are getting a full rework
steel venture
I can duel-wield transmoged shovels.
dense plover
was it confirmed as a full rework?
languid yoke
yes
dense plover
i thought they just said they were updating them
steel venture
Locking cosmetics is ridiculous at this point if you've already earned them.
dense plover
source?
rustic mountain
Isnât that classified as something done to them?
hollow dock
They said it during blizzcon
languid yoke
updating them is a rework please
hollow dock
Nope
rustic mountain
A rework is something done to their models though
languid yoke
xanuzar: Sandrene's Invisble Vest and white items still not moggable complain about that
hollow dock
theyre happy with the current state of goblins and will just do some tweaks to them to bring them up to par while they've heard our outcries about the state of Worgen, especially the female.
Yes and the female worgen is HORRENDUS
languid yoke
uhn
meager warren
goblins are horrendous as well
languid yoke
female worgen don't exist
hollow dock
goblins are in a much better state than Worgen are
languid yoke
there are male worgen and some kind of chihuahua with a shitty face, long arms and legs
hollow dock
Worgen literally have their models broken when performing simple actions
meager warren
female goblins look like a female model cosplaying with some body-paint and a mask
rustic mountain
In other news have you seen the Vulpera sleep animation ? Cause thatâs some cute shit right there
hollow dock
@dusky ginkgo I think you had a chart showing all the contortions of a female worgen?
its not cute
its horrifying
hollow dock
its not cute. cute is my sneeples.
meager warren
Vris is a furry confirmed
languid yoke
my worgen with moroes polish are cute
rustic mountain
Vris you seem a tad hostile with others opinions like it personally insults you lol
steel venture
http://www.wowdb.com/items/62858-flesh-and-bone
http://www.wowdb.com/items/53446-spring-gadget
http://www.wowdb.com/items/57848-mokmorokks-grog-bottle
http://www.wowdb.com/items/58903-kobold-candle
All moggable, and account-wide when earned on a single character.
Just as "silly" as having a tabard that the character didn't earn.
meager warren
@hollow dock amirite
meager warren
yay <3
languid yoke
how about
rustic mountain
They are night elves and there are no males
languid yoke
playable rabbits
steel venture
inb4 female harpies stay the same, and male harpies end up looking like arakkoa
meager warren
playable spiders
steel venture
because blizzard doesnt know how to do basic sexual dimorphism
meager warren
KUMO DEMONS
crystal forum
How about arrakoa but the females look like harpies
hollow dock
Arakkoa Adherents please
languid yoke
Arakkoa for allied race đ€
crystal forum
Moonkin dance
meager warren
Arakkoa FLOOF
languid yoke
arakkoa aren't fl00f they are feathers
hollow dock
I can support arakkoa
meager warren
FLOOFY BIRDS
languid yoke
so if anything they are... squawk
rustic mountain
Maybe we will get some sort of aquatic allied race during the Azshara part of the expansion because most likely we will be doing some more underwater zoning?
steel venture
Hence why I do bring up naga at times.
languid yoke
water elemental allied race
hollow dock
that doesn't make much sense
they'd rather just give us a mount
or a buff
like they did with Vash'jir
languid yoke
with male looking like the current water elementals and females looking like water in "gorgeous" humanoid female form
steel venture
Sethrak being used as a base skeleton for a new "breed" of naga if made playable I see being the most likely thing.
languid yoke
ew no
steel venture
Due to naga brutes existing and having legs.
As much as I don't want legged naga, that'd probably be what blizzard would do y'all.
meager warren
if they give us a water-breathing allied race, maybe we could get jinyu ;3
languid yoke
jinyu would make sense
languid yoke
I think they are even more likely now considering hozen show up again in horde area
hollow dock
I dontthink those Jinyu would want to come with us
considering what we did in the Jade Forest
languid yoke
ey I'm exalted with them I WANT THEM TO BE MY FRENDS
hollow dock
destroying the next reincarnation of Yu'lon
steel venture
The hozen we're going to be seeing are mutated flying hozen.
meager warren
some of the jinyu are friendly even though we did that
rustic mountain
I think it would be pretty cool if nagaâs get legs somehow like part of the curse is broken. But we would get a dumbed down version compared to the npc one , looking at you allied race nightborne :/
languid yoke
I WANT TO SHOW OFF JINYU ABS IN FRONT OF AZSHARA AND MURDER HER
and then kill sylvanas
with fish abs
and fish dagger tmog
steel venture
okay
allied race that will never happen but i would kill for
saurok
i wnat
want*
languid yoke
omg jinyu rogue riding a fish with a fish pet and using fish daggers
hollow dock
I do like that we are just flat out ignoring the reason for allied races to exist.
steel venture
my murder lizard
meager warren
i wanna get the Angler fish fishing pole but i cba
hollow dock
SAUROK ALLIED RACE TO COMBAT THE VULPERA
steel venture
YES
languid yoke
allied races exist to shut up people wanting more elf races
hollow dock
THEYRE SNEEPLE WEEPLE
meager warren
SAUROK ALLIED RACE TO COMBAT THE ALLIANCE
steel venture
aren't they having saurok actually show up on the islands?
hollow dock
theyre not actual saurok
languid yoke
they are koruas
meager warren
they sneeple
languid yoke
there's going to be mogu too
steel venture
Because saurok actually do live in the Great Sea as well.
languid yoke
your point?
rustic mountain
Allied races are just a lazy version of reskinning a race already playable and giving new racials for them honestly, they will probably give more allied races then a new race all together with its own animations
languid yoke
also they would be hostile saurok
we would need friendly saurok
and I can't think of any friendly saurok
steel venture
""allied race that will never happen but i would kill for""
meager warren
goddamnit, if Zandalar is going to just be Pandaria 2.0 instead of Isle of Thunder 2.0, i may be disappointed
languid yoke
saurok or saberon have to happen to get an allied race with worgen skeleton
:D
:D :D :D
steel venture
Skumblade were the closest to being 'friendly' though that was only if you had a disguise.
meager warren
well hey, the amani trolls were also hostile.
who's to say we won't get friendly saurok?
steel venture
Saurok are cool, a'ight?
Murder lizardmen.
meager warren
No.
Murderzards
steel venture
yes.
meager warren
or, Murzard
languid yoke
or a tauren druid with a lizard form. Moozard
dusky ginkgo
@hollow dock It was a comparison between the actual model and the alpha one I think!
And I added a pic of a chihuahua with it
Why?
hollow dock
To show these non-believers how utterly broken the female models are
steel venture
Please do.
languid yoke
for them to be broken there would have to be female worgen
steel venture
The female worgen are disgusting.
languid yoke
again, they are chihuahua abominations with weird posture weird face and being overall ugly
meager warren
Ice trolls with a lizard form.
Blizzard
hollow dock
I'm not sure who it was then if not you, but I remember someone in the PTR chat showing a picture of them
languid yoke
except having fur and claws they have nothing alike with male worgen
meager warren
that looks like a purring kitten, not a wolf
steel venture
that looks like a RADIOACTIVE kitten
languid yoke
they didn't do anything
meager warren
kek
languid yoke
(also saberon pls)
steel venture
languid yoke
still sad that the worgen/goblin update won't come before 8.X
steel venture
i have more.
dont worry.
female worgen are literally this broken because they changed the model from alpha but never fully updated the skeleton.
meager warren
those teeth look hoyyifrngly human
dusky ginkgo
http://i.imgur.com/fF8Vf.jpg That one too
rustic mountain
Idea, New race: Merfolk. And when they die they turn to sushi
dusky ginkgo
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/tĂȘte-de-crabot-de-chiwawa-en-plan-rapprochĂ©-de-profil-17112651.jpg
languid yoke
srsly the bottome row just wants me to smash my screen and destroy that abomination of "worgen"
they are an insult to male worgen :<
steel venture
https://puu.sh/wkUnt/5db06f1ad4.jpg
https://puu.sh/wkUui/cdb01bbb9b.jpg
fanmade edits of female worgen that are SO minor but 50000000% better
meager warren
Merfolk?
Wouldn't those just be naga
steel venture
just THIS alone would be miles better than the current model
languid yoke
eh they still have their stupid faces
steel venture
steel venture
snout is actually somewhat fixed
meager warren
wtf is up with those eyes
languid yoke
what needs to be done is that their entire head needs to get replaced
steel venture
no pupil, like the males.
rustic mountain
Naga are more dragonic
meager warren
oh? i never noticed. those eyes are glaring into my soul
dusky ginkgo
I just want them to get ride of this chihuahua profil
languid yoke
I never got why males don't have pupils
rustic mountain
Or they are supposed to be
dusky ginkgo
It's awful
