no longer can i be petty
#beta-ptr-spoilers
true matrix
@meager warren I like that actually
meager warren
ty
jade basalt
Some interesting lines, probably an exchange between Zul/Rastakhan/Yazma (not necessarily at the same time or in that order)
My work has only just begun.
Yazma, protect the tomb until Dazar has risen. Kill any who would try to enter.
Your visions had best be right about dis, Zul, or we will all be food for de loa.
Calm yourself, Yazma. Everything is proceeding as I have forseen.
Did you "foresee" de casualties we would suffer?
Zul! I have come for your head.
And I have come for your soul.
You have become stagnant, old friend. You have let our empire rot and decay under your leadership. I have foreseen the troll empire rising again.
I give you this prophecy. The troll empire will rule this world, last as it was first. And upon its throne shall sit the a king, last as he was first, though neither you or I will live as we do to see it. Such is the vision shown to me by MY god...(edited)
zinc sandal
Rastakhan King of the World
meager warren
TROLLS BE THE MASTERS OF AZEROTH
zinc sandal
Da mastas
meager warren
what's the relevance of that image?
tropic trail
theyre trying to not spoil all the future content by saying it was done for npc reasons
duh
jade basalt
Bee model is now animated http://bfa.wowhead.com/npc=134147/beehemoth
tropic trail
next allied race: bees
olive mirage
drowsy stone
beehemoth
meager warren
ALL THE BEEE PUNS
drowsy stone
I swear
hollow dock
we've had a craftable battle rez
its probably just an updated one for BFA
rather than the legionone
zinc sandal
Warlock
tropic trail
someone help me decide
zinc sandal
Warlock
hollow dock
warrior
tropic trail
you saying it twice does not count as two votes btw
hollow dock
Oh hey Arson is back
meager warren
don't u hate it when a rare battle pet consumable gives u an uncommon one
zinc sandal
Yes, it does.
meager warren
goddamnit bliz
tropic trail
nu-uh
zinc sandal
Yuh-uh
hollow dock
1-1 warrior/warlock
meager warren
warrior
hollow dock
Warrior it is
tropic trail
warrior it is
zinc sandal
You make a mistake
tropic trail
"kawaiis" the warrior has been born
meager warren
i mean, unless kenzie wants to do pvp
true matrix
excellent choice
drowsy stone
You named yourself kawaiis?
meager warren
how was that not taken, is my question
true matrix
NYANS
jade basalt
These new C'Thraxxi look less like chitinous aquatic creatures, and it also looks like they have bone-y protusions https://i.imgur.com/NqYxDmB.png https://i.imgur.com/Pj7prCL.png https://i.imgur.com/bV1233Q.png https://i.imgur.com/yMfzyI0.png
true matrix
WHAT A GOOD NAME
drowsy stone
Meanwhile yesterday on the Wymrest Accord server
I made these characters
Somehow their names werent taken with over 600k characters on it
tropic trail
because lore accuracy
uncut vault
there was an inactivity wipe recently
tropic trail
on wra i couldnt get like any lore accurate name
terse siren
Stupid Q incoming. Where does this bfa data mining come from? Is the PTR being updated or does someone here and there have access to servers to mine it? o.O
meager warren
Should name ur next character "Isopodus Dorkus" @tropic trail
drowsy stone
Get them names while their hot
uncut vault
The beta client is publicly available, just not playable
terse siren
AHA!
meager warren
"not playable" challenge considered...
true matrix
don't do it arson that's against ToS
meager warren
o ur right
terse siren
something something beta has never been playable giggle
hollow dock
Its from a client thats hidden.
terse siren
Guess I botched my stealth check roll
hollow dock
We have access to the data that's not encrypted and we just rip it all from said beta client and load it up in our own servers. but we're mostly limited to just seeing the maps, models and zones
Wowhead does the more indepth mining to find the strings and stuff
meager warren
i read that as "hate maps"
hollow dock
mine is now compact. So I gotta get used to it
meager warren
i need to get a desktop at some point. Laptops fucking suck.
Lithium Ion Batteries and all that
also, they lag
rich apex
Heh
tropic trail
oh my
zinc sandal
Not a fan of the Dark Iron customization options.
Some seem a little weird in terms of graphics while the others are basically recycled.
humble sun
Recycled content in WoW? Heresy!
tropic trail
ngl i just dislike their lighter skintones . they just seem unfitting for well... dark iron dwarves
zinc sandal
Racist!
proud karma
i like em. i want firey hair tho
hollow dock
despite dark iron actually looking grey and not black.
proud karma
like a proper shiny effect, like void elves
tropic trail
well i mean the mid light is okay but they aint the pumice dwarves
terse patrol
Dark Iron supremacy.
meager warren
Troll supremacy
jade basalt
Looks like they changed the vulpera model https://i.gyazo.com/f3305f1836736db027b0a4fbbefd558b.png https://i.gyazo.com/0bda7b8224fb8f6e3d4e5e341ad6a84d.png
uncut vault
they furry-fied it
tulip sun
Ya, the bottom ones look so much better
tropic trail
looks like everyone s gonna make fun of it like the pandaren
tulip sun
Are those moving eyes??
The bottom one final pretty sure has moving eyes
I am even more convinced they are being a playable race
jade basalt
They can blink, now.
tulip sun
That is even more to suggest they are becoming playablr
drowsy stone
Definitely not like there's playable anthropomorphic cows and wolves
zinc sandal
You donât understand.
Wildstarâs Aurin cannot make it into WoW.
T-T
Not again
drowsy stone
If you thought they weren't playable before
They didn't change the model
It's just a customization option
zinc sandal
That doesnât really prove anything. A lot of NPC races have been added to the Dressing Room.
zinc sandal
So do NPC races
drowsy stone
Just sayin
uncut vault
almost all NPC races have different customizations
they have eye colors, skin colors, and ears, their main feature.
zinc sandal
Yep
gilded drum
what was wrong with the Arluin?
jade basalt
No they did change the model, and added options. @drowsy stone
zinc sandal
What WASNâT wrong with Aurin
jade basalt
There's not just the fact that they were added to the CharacterRaces file. The vulpera are getting a ton of model development for a race that, as far as we know, shows up in a significant way in only 1 zone. In comparison the Sethrak who are much more prominent and important barely get any customization and are purely NPC models. Vulpera also have player data inside the CharacterRaces file, not NPC data (like tuskarr or naga), but like that of the Allied Races, and which flags them as a Horde race, they have a huge number of customization options, new tails, faces rigged for animations, underwear (which is something that is normally unique to playable races), and their texture sheet is ordered like that of a playable race.
zinc sandal
uncut vault
sethrak have a crap ton of models tho
zinc sandal
âSetting up certain races as though they were player characters can be highly advantageous for NPC customizationâ
uncut vault
blizz wants to make a livid and more immersive world
every person in a species having the same ears and face isnt that immersive
zinc sandal
I think they want to make NPCs a little more interactive than âclick them until they yell at youâ
And more diverse in appearance
zinc sandal
Itâs a first step.
They might do the same with other NPC races eventually.
They have 7 months to do it.
uncut vault
They really dont have more than other NPCs
the original forest troll model has double their skin options and double the customizations
tuskarr have the same number of skin tones and customization options
tulip sun
They have a lot more going for them to become playable, yes.
jovial coral
I guess this expansion they will explain how shadow and light are not as different as it appears
49:35
tropic trail
just saw the darkiron racials, fireblood sounds good assuming the numbers are post squish.
jovial coral
I believe there will be a lot more playable races just some of them can't join the horde or alliance. But what do I know
tropic trail
I have a question. Why does the Alliance get 5 Paladins and the Horde only 2?
Jeebz, the Dark Iron dwarves look amazing.
gusty wolf
@tropic trail does it matter? There was a time when we only had 1. And there was a time prior to that when we had 0. If paladin-worthy races are less horde-like, that's fine.
Shamans are less alliance-like and that's fine too.
uncut vault
The Horde leather set has both kilt and no kilt. Praying the rest of the icons means all the mail and cloth sets have that too
pale tide
Dark iron female is the best thing ever
gusty wolf
So Vulpera seems confirmed for horde.
What will the alliance get?
Or will Vulpera be Pandas 2.0?
rich wedge
Blue Post that they're not an allied race (yet)
rich wedge
I'm on my phone, just go to wowhead/mmo-champion
eternal sentinel
Com on who realy think that they are rly going new race lol
And we already know draenor orc is the futur race for Horde
gusty wolf
Too early for april's fools, right?
rich wedge
Confirmed future allied races:
Horde: Zandalari Trolls, Draenor Orcs
Alliance: Dark Iron Dwarves
eternal sentinel
Is just everyone hype for nothing and for everything
jovial coral
Vulpera maybe next expac
eternal sentinel
@jovial coral kappa
languid yoke
Vulpera I think is 8.1 or 8.2 material
mainly because of the extra amount of data they have in the race files (like currently playable races), which Kul'Tirans lack
in other news male vulpera in dressing room when
jovial coral
Well that would be neat
Makes me wonder what class I would even pick for a vulpera
Druid seems to fit I guess, hunter would be weird since they are hunted by the sethrak
Actually if sethrak and vulpera both couldn't be hunters that would be nice
Now if the sethrak could be druids that would be sweet
strange falcon
bois did u see wowhead's post on vulpera,seems extremely likely they're going to be an allied race mid bfa
also we're going to be exterminating the sethrak,so at the very least they would go alliance
or alliance could get tortollans
or kultirans
jovial coral
Eh we'll see
strange falcon
i can already see it tho,they give us vulpera in 8.2,when they put in the new zone(probably nyalotha or something) so that we have all the time to get exalted with them
languid yoke
tortollans I kinda doubt cause armor with a shell đ¤
rich wedge
Or read the blue post
languid yoke
they give us vulpera in 8.2 with goblin and worgen updates
strange falcon
@rich wedge on that fact,they said "dont get your hopes up" not "vulpera are 300% never going to be an allied race period."
languid yoke
they said something similar when void elf and lightforged draenei files were discovered for 7.3
so yeah
strange falcon
dont get your hopes up means basically that it wont come at launch
that's all it is
hollow dock
Nwolf, Vulpera are not going to become an allied race. :v
languid yoke
sure they are
hollow dock
The blue post had said the reasoning for them getting moved into player models.
rich wedge
Don't get your hopes up means it's not planned
strange falcon
they have way too many customization options compared to all the npcs in the game,that's the main factor,the moving to character models is a thing they do to npcs to give them armor
without it looking weird
hollow dock
While those races did become Allied Races later, we still intend to use this approach for non-playable races.
Please donât take a race being datamined in this way as an indication that it will become playable in the future! :)
Please don't take a race being datamined in this way as an indiciation that it will become playable in the Future
languid yoke
yes but compare the race files for Kul'Tiran and Vulpera
rich wedge
Maybe they just want more variety in NPCs?
hollow dock
They've done this for countless races in the past
strange falcon
yeah,like sethrak are very little variety and they are "character" npcs
languid yoke
you will find out that Vulpera have much more data/strings/whatever you want to call that compared to any other NPC race
including Kul'Tiran
strange falcon
kultirans and vulpera have wayyy too many option
languid yoke
so it's more likely for Vulpera to become allied race than Kul'Tiran
hollow dock
That'd be because we're going to see them m ore often.
strange falcon
well,obviously if horde gets a race,ally gets a race too,and most likely are kultirans,since tortollan have a shell and all
hollow dock
There's more flexibility in them and thus more needs to be done with them. :v This is the Vrykul argument all over again from Wrath
languid yoke
since they even have an ID that indicates that they are a horde race, while Kul'Tirans don't have something similar for Alliance
strange falcon
vrykul didnt have all that variety
languid yoke
so Blizzard does introduce these NPC races differently
strange falcon
they all seem to have the same faces every time i go to wrath for lvling
languid yoke
also horde will get two races
Draenor Orcs are confirmed
don't forget about that one
strange falcon
ah ye that too
hollow dock
Seem. The Vrykul got a huge update for Legion, including the pushing of them into the player models.
Which again, is solely for the purpose of easier manipulation. While, as the blue post points out, this wasn't the case for the Lightforged and other allied races, it will be the case for these newer races as we move forward.
languid yoke
yes but there's a difference anyway because as I have said before, Vulpera are added in the file with strings/ID/code/whatever indicating they are Horde race, while Vrykul/Kul'Tiran/other NPC races DON'T have that
strange falcon
the push of them into players models is for armor,as the vrykul are used a lot in the warrior class hall
and in the stormheim dungs
hollow dock
Indeed. Easier access to model, animation and armor rigging.
rich wedge
Isn't it just that they're friendly to Horde only?
hollow dock
Nope
strange falcon
also vulpera are using goblin models,not their unique models like Sethrak
hollow dock
Alliance do interact with them post Leveling content
languid yoke
Evil Overlord: No >_>
strange falcon
and kultirans are using panda models
hollow dock
Theyre neutral traveling merchants
strange falcon
they dont seem to be very "traveling"
jovial coral
I'm probably wrong but I've been daydreaming about blizzard adding new classes in bfa then the storyline leads to two new factions in the xpac after bfa
hollow dock
We just got a new class D=
and its pretty clear from Legion that we'll never leave this 2 faction system.
languid yoke
so what I wrote to a friend is:
have you checked the Unkown13 column? There's only two different numbers (other than empty/0)
Alliance races has 651555 there and Horde has 651558
And Vulpera have 651558 in the same column as well, while something like Gilnean, Kul'Tiran or Tuskarr don't
(that's in the race file btw)
hollow dock
So are the worgen not an alliance race?
jovial coral
The number 1 thing that attracts me to an mmo is variety from the very start
hollow dock
Ah so the people in Bradensbrook?
strange falcon
he means gilnean humans from starting zone
languid yoke
Gilnean are the Gilnean humans you see in places like Bradensbrook, Gilneas, Blasted Lands
Worgen is the PC race
hollow dock
So, what about the ones we see in Darnassus? Are those labeled Gilnaen or Worgen?
hollow dock
So then those alliance NPCs aren't alliance :p
hollow dock
Theyre not labeled as such. You just said Gilnaens aren't labeled as such.
languid yoke
you are missunderstanding something
Gilneans are one of those NPC/PC races that don't have a code for being playable alliance race
hollow dock
Ah ok.
languid yoke
they are still alliance
hollow dock
What about the Taunka?
languid yoke
Taunka don't have anything for being playable horde race either
granted, back then they probably didn't think about Allied races. But what I'm mostly on about is that Kul'Tirans aren't marked as being playable alliance race, while Vulpera are marked as horde race
hollow dock
Probably because the horde are the ones that'll interact with them the most, but it doesn't make sense for them to be conscripted in when they happen to deal with us in the end game content.
Us being the alliance.
jovial coral
You'd think all these other races would need to make alliances in order to get some azerite
languid yoke
interaction with them has nothing to do with this :V
hollow dock
Considering they'd become horde, and we're at war
yea I'd say interaction is pretty important
languid yoke
I mean, interaction with them has nothing to do with being marked as playable horde race. Interaction with them probably leads to them being playable, but it's not the reason they are already marked as one
Alliance interacts with Kul'Tirans too but they are not marked as alliance race
jovial coral
Yes
hollow dock
That's true. But the argument is their viability to become an allied race is it not?
strange falcon
@hollow dock we know you're speaking out of your enormous alliance bias because you get fat humans and we get super cute tiny foxes
hollow dock
I want fat humans
tf u talkin about
I'd love for my gal to not be a twig and my boys to not be hulks
jovial coral
What about the super skinny lanky humans
hollow dock
y'all can keep your disgusting fox hybrids. I am pointing out that all of this doesn't mean theyre getting added in. We even had a blue grace us with his presense to tell us exactly that.
strange falcon
@mint arch you'll have to convert yourself to the true faction to get em
tropic trail
No vulpera!
hollow dock
Void is one of you disgusting hut squatting barbarians already
mint arch
A N I M E
tropic trail
We don't even know them!
strange falcon
@tropic trail well,by the time bfa rolls around we'll know em lots
hollow dock
We'll know em as well as the Grummles
languid yoke
blue post has no meaning
hollow dock
Which is 1 line of dialogue becoming a short lived meme
Blue post is the company. If the company says it
its law
tropic trail
If they will be a race I will cry
Blue post was the word of god
But soon blzz gets ideas from all these furries...
hollow dock
Unless you're saying blizzards word isn't affecting their game. Cuz when a blue posts, they have to run it by the management team.
either that or theyre told to post it
strange falcon
i'm going to laugh in your face when they're playable in 8.2
mint arch
granted, i hope blizzard can fcking fix worgen
hollow dock
Do so.
mint arch
before we get anime foxes
tropic trail
Mark my words, they will never be playable!!!
hollow dock
Because at the moment, there is no real indication of them becoming playable.
If that changes in the future, fine. So be it.
mint arch
if they are popular enough
tropic trail
I don't even know Vulpera and I already hate them...
mint arch
blizzard would add em in as playable
hollow dock
Not even. People have wanted Naga since vanilla.
strange falcon
yeah like there was no "indication" that allied races would be playable on the 30th,at least an ENTIRE MONTH before it happened
and yet it did happen vris
mint arch
well, i always say, problem with Naga is the no legs and shit, getting old armor onto those models would be muuuch bigger work
strange falcon
also nagas are never going to be playable because they have a tail for legs đŚ
hollow dock
Yet, as I remember, naga can actually wear most armor and it be visible on their bodies since cata.
languid yoke
tinywizzo noone cares please make a video of you crying thanks
hollow dock
Boots, helmets and capes won't show up or glitch out, but everything else shows up normally on them.
tropic trail
The problem with vulpera is that we have 100 races better to be playable cuz theyre more interesting and actually ESTABLISHED!!!
languid yoke
there is indication but you are too stubborn to accept that
strange falcon
you can actually test this,as nagas are in the modelviewer
tropic trail
THE FURRIES RUIN EVERYTHING!!!
languid yoke
established races like void elves? :V
strange falcon
@tropic trail what,tuskarr that we havent heard of since wotlk and have no current ties to the story?
tropic trail
Void elves suck toooooo
mint arch
hey, they be my elves >:3
languid yoke
elves suck in general
tropic trail
Listen we dont even know vulpera
strange falcon
tropic trail
What is they are evol
hollow dock
I wouldn't even need model viewer, there was a wow server I used to play on that gave you things that are locked. Like Naga, Dark Iron Dwarves, pandaren (pre-MOP) and such.
strange falcon
tiny ffs,you are stating the obvious
hollow dock
Void Elves come from, at first, forciful absorbing of Void Energies.
strange falcon
it's like saying "we dont know the nightborne" mid wod
tropic trail
Vulpera work for the old gods confurmddt
strange falcon
obviously you dont because they are next expac content
mint arch
cause ppl like how they look?
hollow dock
Because theyre weebs and they die for anything they preceive as cute
mint arch
like, ppl can like stuff based on looks alone
tropic trail
@hollow dock Thank you!
tropic trail
I want story thanks
tropic trail
Burn all furries and weebs
mint arch
/spreads the weeb around
tropic trail
Especially the furry weebs...
strange falcon
all the furry weebs are on the alliance side my friend
hollow dock
Except void. they're on the horde side.
mint arch
đź đŞ đŞ đ§ đŽ đ¸ đ˛
tropic trail
No they aint, furries are alliance
hollow dock
I've found more furries on the red than blue. Cuz ya know.
tropic trail
Worgen, pandaren are mostly ally.
hollow dock
They had the furry race first.
strange falcon
yeah worgen and ally pandaren are ally
mint arch
horde have necro peeps over their "queen"
strange falcon
we have horde pandaren which are furries,which in turn are greatly inferior than yours
tropic trail
Tauren aint played by furries tho
hollow dock
They are furries hto.
tropic trail
HORDE ARE DA BEST
mint arch
tauren would count as furry
hollow dock
they are literal half man half cows. They are the definition of furry.
strange falcon
tauren have HAIR,thereby they dont have fur,but skin to cover their body
hollow dock
You dont need literal fur to be labeled a furry
strange falcon
and even so,all furries play worgens
mint arch
noun: furry; plural noun: furries
1.
an enthusiast for animal characters with human characteristics, in particular a person who dresses up in costume as such a character or uses one as an avatar online.
Furry:
an enthusiast for animal characters with human characteristics, in particular a person who dresses up in costume as such a character or uses one as an avatar online.
"a growing community of furries"
Gtg now baaaaaiiii
hollow dock
If all furries play worgen, then what about the furries that play tauren and pandaren?
strange falcon
tauren are not furries,and are not played by furries either
hollow dock
They are furries m8.
strange falcon
horde pandaren are a very small percentage compared to worgen and ally pandaren combined
hollow dock
Tauren themselves are considered one of the furry community. Them having fur is inconsequential as again, the furry community loves all sorts of anthro animals.
languid yoke
but imagine this
people also play Tauren, Worgen or Pandaren just cause they like the race, not just cause they are furries
lol
hollow dock
Oh I wasn't speaking about the people. I just noted the tauren are apart of that as well.
strange falcon
i've played a tauren since vanilla,does that make me a furry? i dont think so D:
hollow dock
Yea but saying no furries play tauren isn't correct either.
hollow dock
I'd wager there's more of them by virtue of time
jovial coral
Cant post pics :c
jovial coral
new allied race confirmed
http://prntscr.com/ibckts
terse patrol
languid yoke
surprised dark iron dwarf racials are known before zandalari
hollow dock
Dark Iron got worked onf irst.
jovial coral
Their racials are better than current dwarves
ruby prawn
How does the mole machine work?
hollow dock
no one knows but we're theorizing its a hearthstone
ruby prawn
How is it going to help
Oh
Probably like the current flight master whistle on argus
After you upgrade it
hollow dock
It could also work like that
ruby prawn
Did you get the velf race vris?
hollow dock
keep in mind,just like with the other allied racials
these are not set in stone
and no I haven't. :c payday hasnt' happened for me to get back in game
hollow dock
Ofc. I got it months ago.
ruby prawn
Oh
hollow dock
I did the WQs cuz I just wanted it at exaulted.
ruby prawn
Do we have any updates on the zandalari racials?
strange falcon
nop
we have the names
and icons
but not the description
of what they do
i think they were "embrace of the loa" "city of gold" "pterrordax swoop" and one i'm forgetting
hollow dock
it seems like dark iron got worked on and zandalari will be worked on now
ruby prawn
I think all races are gonna get new racials
The new allied race racials are too good
Too powerful
hollow dock
Nightborne already had theirs ninja changed before hitting live
the 2 min blink is nice, but not that stronk.
strange falcon
well void elf racial is a random proc
and even when it procs
it's a 1% dps increase
hollow dock
Yea. Nothing to force yourself to play over.
ruby prawn
The void elf casting related passive is very powerful
hollow dock
UNless theres anentire raid dedicated to demons, like the Lightforged demon racial.
In PVP yea. I can see all healers moving to Velf for it.
but in every other aspect of the game, I dont really think so.
ruby prawn
The lightforged draenei had bonus xp from demons?
hollow dock
Oh is it just XP? I thought it was damage.
ruby prawn
No, just xp
hollow dock
Nvm then.
zinc sandal
XP, like Trolls with beasts
ruby prawn
When are we gonna be able to play ptr bfa?
hollow dock
Probably not until BFA is already released.
ruby prawn
When was the legion ptr available?
strange falcon
vris i dont think you're understanding
he means the alpha
or the ptr
or beta
whatever you want to call it
opaque girder
theres always a prepatch PTR, not an actual expansion content PTR
strange falcon
exactly
hollow dock
Public Test Realm is meant to test out patches heading onto live.
So a BFA PTR wouldn't be up until BFA is released.
opaque girder
squish :X
hollow dock
Well yea that's the beta.
ruby prawn
Yes I am talking about the beta
hollow dock
Ah alright.
No one knows when the beta invites are going out. People said yesterday, but it never happened.
strange falcon
the bfa alpha hasnt started yet
hollow dock
its still all internal as far as we know
ruby prawn
"That Magni Bronzebeard thinks he's so clever but I can see right through him" it's the best quote yet
hollow dock
nah the best quote comes after that
strange falcon
A night elf laughed at me for living inside a volcano. Well at least I don't have to worry about my mountain burning now do I! What... too soon?
hollow dock
YES
zinc sandal
Iâm still wondering whatâs the use of Dungeon Delver. I would have expected it to be more drops/exp from dungeons.
jovial coral
Should zandalari get something like that
Darkspear have exp increase by killing beasts
zinc sandal
Idk
eternal sentinel
imo bonus exp for killing things as a racial is trash
polar mango
Those dark iron racials are nuts.
hollow dock
gotta go fast
polar mango
I hope they plan on beefing up non-allied racials (they probably aren't) otherwise we're gonna see everyone and their mother race-change for the raid meta.
hollow dock
stoneform is stilla damage reduction isnt it
terse patrol
Dark Iron tanks, inbound.
polar mango
Then again that's a fair way to make a ton of money.
terse patrol
That physical damage reduction.
hollow dock
Have you seen how hard the bosses melee attack these days?
polar mango
"Hey everyone, reroll these races cause it has an advantage you can't get anywhere else."
polar mango
Gonna be an interesting expansion.
hollow dock
Belf racial is still nutso. Same with Orc and Troll.
polar mango
Also, good morning. đ
hollow dock
Morning. I dont sleep.
strange falcon
the fact you have glowy eye supremacy doesnt mean you're a good faction
horde still best
polar mango
That's just the reflection of Teldrassil burning in the distance.
terse patrol
No, thatâs the FIRES OF BLACKROCK MOUNTAIN, NEWLY PURGED OF ORC SCUM
hollow dock
Horde are hut squatting barbarians that do nothing butslaughter and ruin civilizations
polar mango
I bet Orcs staaaaank.
hollow dock
They do. Their kind wishes to smell like rotten meat in the summer.
strange falcon
at least the horde treats all races equally,instead of the xenophobic anduin approach where humans are the alpha race and everything else is a side-dish
polar mango
Most people feel that way about invaders though.
Alliance want peace, Horde want war. It's obvious who sucks here.
polar mango
You want to talk about in-game politics and then break the 4th wall?
That's dumb.
In-game, the Horde are simply fueled by fighting. Their entire culture is formed around nothing BUT war. Everything is wrapped up in it. At least on the alliance side they act like they want peace.
Except for a few select individuals who need to get over their revenge kick.
gusty wolf
Tauren are not belicious. Neither were orcs before being corrupted.
polar mango
They shouldn't side with the Horde then.
Orcs are long-term fucked though, no salvation there.
strange falcon
alliance taurens 
polar mango
Haha
Honestly, they belong in the neutral category with Pandas imo.
Their purpose/culture doesn't lend to the bloodlust of the other two factions as well as the others do.
I like 'em. Big cows I wanna hug.
strange falcon
neutral taurens after 13 years 
polar mango
Wouldn't want to play game of Red Rover with 'em though. XD
subtle flower
Well, with the newest thing there's not much armor left unfound, but still not what I most wish to see.
polar mango
All that being said, if Vulpera end up a race on the Horde side... I am faction changing. lol.
All my political alliances are based on how cute things are.
Hello Kitty 2020.
subtle flower
I'm expecting them to be Horde, since to my understanding, isn't there a lot less Horde players? I imagine the Vulpera would be super popular and help balance things out
That's what I've always heard at least.
languid yoke
horde unpopular
belfs are ruling rankings (sadly)
vulpera are currently listed as horde PC race though, so it's likely going to be horde allied race
dark iron dwarves look awesome too, tho
terse patrol
Orcs were warlike even before corruption though wtf
They even revealed that bloodlust isnt even due to demon corruption
subtle flower
Let's see, we're still missing Zandalar Dungeon Chain/Mail, Zandalar Questing is complete, Warfront Horde Chain/Mail and Warfront Alliance Plate are the only Warfront ones missing now... Aaaand everything but Kul Tiras Dungeon Plate is missing. Getting there.
tropic trail
inb4 i get yelled at by the no fun army, i feel like the extra vulpera customization further points to it being an allied race
like most npc races marked as character ones dont even get alternative faces, much less like all those skin options and ears
hollow dock
their bloodlust was amplified. They've always been savages.
rich wedge
@tropic trail it points to them adding more varied NPCs instead of only having 5 different models that we interact with.
tropic trail
lol u wish. blizz would never put in extra effort to a npc race
we cant even get new mounts
rich wedge
đ¤ pretty sure I gained atleast 50 in the last expansion
zinc sandal
Except we are....by the ton
tropic trail
that arent just like reskins??
zinc sandal
Everything is a reskin. Whatâs yer point?
rich wedge
Vulpera are reskinned goblins
zinc sandal
^
tropic trail
with actual customization but go on
zinc sandal
Like most NPCs
tropic trail
for fucks sake they have different NOSES . who even cares about that
zinc sandal
tropic trail
yea most npcs that are existing models
true matrix
that post isn't actually evidence one way or the other
tropic trail
exactly
and besides. blizz has done that countless times . oh that stuff you datamined isint future stuff .. silly ;)
hollow dock
It says specifically 'Dont take these things datamined in this specific way as confirmation it's happening'
tropic trail
im glad you can read too vris
hollow dock
But you're saying its happening
which is the opposite of what the blue is telling us.
hollow dock
So then why bother to say it? :v
tropic trail
oh so im not allowed to talk about speculation??
hollow dock
You're not speculating
true matrix
"the blue" isn't confirmation either way
proud karma
hey chill
tropic trail
everyone speculation is only okay if its about elves
rich wedge
"Don't get your hopes up means it's not planned atm, nothing more, nothing less"
proud karma
i dont like em because their arms look like goblins but people have been getting more excited over naga for no reason for years let it beee
hollow dock
To inform you that despite what conclusions you draw, it's not what the devs are doing
proud karma
look, here's my thoughts: the alliance has no friends, but the horde has tonnes and i want to play tonnes of them. so the more stupid nonsense they make up on the spot for alliance allied races the better, in my eyes
true matrix
you don't know that, vris
rich wedge
they're making all the different noses and whatnot to improve the quality of the npcs now, and IF they ever want to add them as allied races, the resources will already be ingame
hollow dock
No, I personally don't. It's what I can see the blue saying though.
proud karma
sure, have foxes. have vrykul for all i care! skinny, AND fat humans. just give me revantusk
hollow dock
It's also consistent on how blizz has handled this exact situation in the past
So I dont know why we think this is any different.
true matrix
literally all the blue is saying is that datamined content may not be indicative of future playable content
may
it doesn't mean it's 100% not going to happen
rich wedge
it doesn't mean it will happen
so dont go hyping and then whine later when you dont get your fox to play with...
hollow dock
Which is what everyone is foaming at the mouth over. That it will happen despite us saying no.
true matrix
yes. but it doesn't mean it won't. the post doesn't imply either way, which is what I've already said like three times.
hollow dock
Pandaren have been in the game since before that tho
tropic trail
great job at pointing out the obvious
languid yoke
yes yes let's ignore the racefile indicating vulpera being more varied than other NPC/PC races again
tropic trail
a blue post even was like "lol pandas?? as if"
like blizzard isint gonna be like "lets just confirm all future content"
rich wedge
Can you actually read the blue post? They're setting them up in the racefile because they've "found that setting up certain races as though they were player characters can be highly advantageous for NPC customization in story content"
hollow dock
Yes and they dont let blues post now without someone up top giving them the go when it comes to future/datamined content. That's their job.
true matrix
you're looking at a post which says "this may or may not be indicative of that" and using it as "evidence" that something 100% isn't happening (when that isn't what was said in the post at all) so people will stop speculating about things you don't like them speculating about
rich wedge
and Vulpera are, for now, "non-playable races"
you're doing the exact opposite, using it as proof that it WILL happen
tropic trail
whatever, if they get added youll see. if they dont, i wont really care . not sure why yall insist on being binches about the simple hope that vulperan will be a race
hollow dock
They specifically said tho
true matrix
IT DOES NOT SAY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER
rich wedge
yes so don't get your hopes up is what we're saying
hollow dock
that's not grey, that's black and white
true matrix
I'm not I'm saying let people live jfc
tropic trail
who gets their hopes up over a mmo?? if its not added like i have actual rl stuff and the rest of the game to enjoy. absolutely noone is gonna ragequit over it
hollow dock
Hope and wonder all ya want, but don't go around claiming it's garunteed to happen
languid yoke
Evil Overlord: Please give the racefile a good look before yelling "THE BLUE POST SAID THEY WOULD DO THAT"
100% sure you don't even know what I'm talking about with racefile :v
languid yoke
nowhere?
tropic trail
note how ive been saying "probably" this entire time
hollow dock
Nwolf mostly. the lot have been constantly saying 'its gonna happen'.
true matrix
well certainly no-one has said as such for the duration of this conversation
true matrix
then what's y'all's fucking problems?
tropic trail
upset theres not furry elves being added
true matrix
let people have their "probablies" and their "maybes" and their "I thinks"
and we can all sit the fuck down and enjoy a nice pot of WoW stew as a family and not have another domestic dispute
please for the love of god
rich wedge
"I think it's a clear indication they are adding Vulpera, and if you don't think so you're part of the no-fun police"
sorry, he said army* not police
tropic trail
alright meme icon
hollow dock
pretty obvious that means 'I think its 100% garunteed to happen and if you think otherwise, u suk'
true matrix
you're putting words in other people's mouths
tropic trail
i said it further points
true matrix
also it doesn't help your case when you keep getting this aggro over it
tropic trail
if yall wanna be raging idiots over me being like "this is pretty close to being an allied race" then okay
hollow dock
We're not the ones being aggro. We just said 'Its not happening just because of x'
rich wedge
inb4 i get yelled at by the no fun army, i feel like the extra vulpera customization further points to it being an allied race
hollow dock
I dont think the customization is an indication it'll get added. If anything, it further points to Blizzard upping the story content
tropic trail
wanted to have a convo about the customization but instead the rage brigade
hollow dock
Then dont go shoving it around :v been having it shoved down as truth since this morning
languid yoke
I'm just gonna leave https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVYn7dqWsAA9aiy.jpg this here and go afk
rich wedge
You literally said "points to them being allied race"
If you wanted to talk about their pretty noses you should've said that
@languid yoke yes that's the racefile
hollow dock
I only reference how theyv'e handled this in the past. Granted that the four we have right now were different, like the blue post indicates, but that doesn't garuntee it's going to happen. As a lot of NPCs races in recent years have been added into our customization screen but are locked for any number of reasons by the Devs.
rich wedge
Guys according to this list we're also getting Broken and Skeletons as Allied Race :o
hollow dock
oh damn, well hey they're likely to become allied races.
rich wedge
Sorry, forgot the "I think"*
languid yoke
gj you failed to read it
steel venture
They're now considering almost anything for playable races due to this new system though.
Given we are likely getting kul tirans and draenor orcs for 8.1 (WC2-WC3 vibes.)
I wouldn't be surprised if vulpera eventually are on the table.
hollow dock
I agree on that idea.
languid yoke
steel venture
Vulpera likely not going to be likely for a long time though.
hollow dock
I can't say I disagree cuz then I'm part of the no fun police
tropic trail
nwolf, its pointless. they cant read numbers
hollow dock
The links aren't opening on my browser. So yea I can't read it.
steel venture
We might have to go back to them later on, given that we're apparently going back to hit up Draenor orcs?
hollow dock
Yup. Apparently.
steel venture
They specifically mentioned 'draenor' ones, not mag'har. So, they're likely making some excuse to play all clans by going back to WoD briefly.
tropic trail
i dont understand how thats not an issue story wise
i dont understand how any of WoD wasnt an issue. we just went into like an au and fucked with people
rich wedge
@hollow dock he's linking the racelist and pointing to the column with faction numbers, where Vulpera have the Horde faction number
hollow dock
Ah.
rich wedge
and races like Broken and Skeletons have no number in that column
true matrix
the only thing consequential to come out of WoD was AU gul'dan coming back to azeroth to. idk kiss illidan's lifeless corpse and fuck shit up some
hollow dock
Well its an alternate timeline. So anything we've done there doesn't affect ours
rich wedge
the same things that have been mentioned as "proof" of allied race 10x times in the last 12h
hollow dock
Think of time like a bunch of rivers. Theres 1 big one, ours, and it branches off.
tropic trail
yea but it seems a little irresponsible to go into like someone elses universe and be like "pandas" "also, let me just kill a bunch of huge things"
hollow dock
Either some small event happens or someone doesn't die to correspond with ours.
tropic trail
but then again irresponsible is like all of wow's story
hollow dock
It seems so, but its more so us just rectifying it.
As this is all Wrathions fault we have to clean up his mess :v
prolly why his punk ass isnt around
true matrix
I'd say he'll face the consequences for his actions eventually but illidan never did so
hollow dock
Wolf, the gilnaen humans are labeled as alliance.
tropic trail
not to start this up again but like, is that 2 forms or is that a seperate thing
hollow dock
as pixilated as this picture is, I think those are the alliance numbers.
true matrix
pretty sure it's one slot for each form, worgen and human (gilnean)
hollow dock
Yup
tropic trail
i dont think ive ever seen someone use the human form tbh
hollow dock
There is Worgen (The PC race) and then Human - Gilnaen (The NPCs)
tropic trail
ill never get over how dumb running wild has always looked
hollow dock
I suspect we'll get normal Gilnaen's from bradensbrook to solve the crisis of forced worgen forms.
tropic trail
running wild 4 human form please
hollow dock
Oh god I saw that on the RP server I go to
true matrix
just get on all fours and crawl around at breakneck speed
hollow dock
and it was horrifying
tropic trail
me irl
true matrix
nyoom
gilded drum
Oh jeez did someone dare enter Vrisâs domain? đż
tropic trail
anime icon ew
hollow dock
The guys there had managed to find its animation ID and started placing it on all the models we had working with the player model
It was horrifying to watch the night elf do it
shudder
tropic trail
jk. its an okay anime icon
gilded drum
:I
true matrix
I mean I've seen worse anime icons but that's not saying much
mortal merlin
I think might get ogres as allied race .
steel venture
im just tinfoil-hatting hardcore and sayin
we might get naga near the end of BFA? please.
without a leader if we do kill azshara they kinda have nowhere else to turn to other than infighting or allegience to horde/alli
hollow dock
Iagree Kissy and its only because I can't disagree or I'm a communist or someshit
tropic trail
its better then when i had to mod a discord server and tell people over and over again to change their icon bc of children
hollow dock
That might be a possibility xan.
steel venture
and tbh naga are still a race that could be neutral.
i m o.
tropic trail
naga dh
hollow dock
naga druids when
mortal merlin
Did we killed Jaraxxus Malganis and Magtheridon in legion?
gilded drum
Itâs a possibility but I think the technical difficulties come from not having legs lol
hollow dock
Nope theyre still alive somewhere.
steel venture
nAGA DRUIDS AND DHS YES
tropic trail
all forms are snake form
steel venture
idk about you but a giant fucking demon snake would be amazing.
tropic trail
titanboas are so cool
true matrix
flying snakes
steel venture
^ is actually a thing.
tropic trail
but like with actual lore in mind could naga even be druids
gilded drum
Flying is literally a snake with wings
hollow dock
Winged Snakes from DnD
steel venture
Sirens from WC3 could be considered somewhat druidic.
tropic trail
just curious, im no naga master
hollow dock
Who cares if wildhammers can be druids anyonecan be a druid
gilded drum
Travel form somehow is a fish
hollow dock
They transform into a water snake
tropic trail
gnome druids
gilded drum
No Iâm talking land travel form
hollow dock
Uh. what's the fastest land snake I wonder
tropic trail
black racer
steel venture
... ok but
couatl flight form
tropic trail
not actually probably
hollow dock
they transform into a black mamba or racer.
tropic trail
i just see them a lot . cutest snakes
gilded drum
Gnome/Goblin Druids could fulfill the fantasy of mech suits tbh
tropic trail
lol goblin druids
true matrix
ANGERY
hollow dock
ANGRY
mortal merlin
Guys? Did we killed Malganis and Jaraxxus in legion? What do you think about ogres as allied race?
gilded drum
Goblin Shamans lul
true matrix
I mean. goblin shamans exist
hollow dock
angry reacts only
gilded drum
We didnât kill them Kissy
tropic trail
((offers treant a dollar)) make me a cat
hollow dock
Ogres will possibly become allied races and I say that only because I can't disagree or I'm a commie
true matrix
they bargain with the ancient guardians
steel venture
ogre deff will be on the table eventually
true matrix
some are more successful than others
gilded drum
Kenzie Iâm just sayin
tropic trail
i literally love goblins. they have the best animations
gilded drum
mech suits
steel venture
because they almost made it for Cata
hollow dock
all it takes is for them to sign a contract
steel venture
they were cut last second to use goblins instead
true matrix
goblin: hey ursoc gimme bear form I'll pay you 5 gold [gets sat on]
tropic trail
hot
gilded drum
Def my kink
hollow dock
All it takes is for urson to put his paw on a piece of paper and WHAM
goblin contract fufilled
hollow dock
thats the idea with elementals anyways and how the goblins have effectively just tricked them into contracts
gilded drum
A friend of mine RPd a Goblin Shaman who sells solar panels to thank the elements for the powers
steel venture
bAHAHAH
mortal merlin
For goblins we can get gilvgoblins as allied race :D
steel venture
10/10
hollow dock
LOL
true matrix
@gilded drum that's inspired tbh
hollow dock
Yes we possibly can get gilbins as allied races and I only say that because I can't disagree or I'm supressing peoples speculations
steel venture
gilbins are like
literally mentally broken
gilded drum
Next allied race? Definitely, without a doubt squirrels.
tropic trail
a friend of mine roleplays a goblin mage who made people pay for portals to escape kezan when deathwing attacked
not as good but still good
steel venture
and insane experiments without culture, their own language, or really any logical reason left in them
they're like the seagulls from finding nemo ffs
hollow dock
Absolutely. I can say we possibly can get allied races and I only say that because I can't disagree or I'm oppressing peoples ability to speculate.
tropic trail
gilblins are weird heckers
steel venture
it'd be like playing a hobgoblin
gilded drum
Lol what happened Vris?
steel venture
in terms of how not-actually-sapient they are
gilded drum
Someone get real angerey
mortal merlin
I know we will not get them but eradar would be A good aliied race
gilded drum
A N G E R E Y
civic saffron
ooo speaking of hobgoblin you all hear about the new red goblin from marvel
hollow dock
Probably not the right place to talk about comics.
civic saffron
but all games and comics have a linking
tropic trail
i just plugged my phone in my coworkers computer but it didnt work ):
hollow dock
absolutely Kissy, we can definately get them as an allied race and I'm only saying that because I can't disagree.
tropic trail
sigh
gilded drum
But we have #no-wow-discussion
mortal merlin
Finally we would have draenei warlock as eredar
gilded drum
Why would we accept Eredar into our factions to begin with though
hollow dock
Because who cares
civic saffron
so if there was a comic series for wow it would have to be offtopic too?
hollow dock
Yup cuz its nottied to what this channel is made for
true matrix
I'd say canonically many people care
gilded drum
No, because itâs wow.
hollow dock
which is spoilers about the BFA spoilers
mortal merlin
Bcs of redemption ?
tropic trail
id love an eredar playable but like .. there is that issue that like both factions are disgusted by them
hollow dock
Who cares?!
mortal merlin
And blizz love redemption stories
hollow dock
Make them allied races cuz why not
gilded drum
Even if Eredar decide to be cool like
civic saffron
wow could use a good comic or graphic novel series
true matrix
it's a similar case with naga, really. I don't think either faction would be keen to take them in
gilded drum
No one would tale them
tropic trail
put em on alliance to see draenei and eredar argue all the time
true matrix
I have a copy of the death knight manga it's gay af
gilded drum
And I donât think they would want to be our friends either
hollow dock
Theres a four part mini-series for Legion, a comic for WoD, there's the Warcraft Legends manga series, there's the warcraft childrens book, there's the Ashbringer comics
gilded drum
I think DKs and DHs are all the redemption we need
tropic trail
bards when
hollow dock
Blizz has made a lot of stuff for WoW in terms of comics and other picture books
civic saffron
lol dh need more redemption like teaching others the double jump at least
mortal merlin
We could get naga ogres eredar broken gilvgoblins and of course tuskar :D
civic saffron
yes naga would so be epical
hollow dock
Aboslutely kissy and they'd all be allied races and I'm only saying that because I can't disagree with anything or I'm starting drama.
mortal merlin
I would like to see A warden or dark rangers class
gilded drum
The only one I could realistically see is Ogres but thatâs just me.
civic saffron
oh yeah and broken i like their model when it comes to armor compared to their draenei counterparts
gilded drum
Broken too I guess.
hollow dock
everything becomes allied race yay!
tropic trail
i dont want bards as much as playable instruments
mortal merlin
And..IF lightforged are in ally so eredar might be horde
tropic trail
like i just wanna sit in org and play a tune
civic saffron
the toy you can use to turn yourself into a broken proves they can be a viable playable race
mortal merlin
For horde could have draenei too
gilded drum
I donât want Draenei tho
hollow dock
Absolutely because a toy is the exact sameas a player model
tropic trail
draenei icky
mortal merlin
As with void elves and blood elves
civic saffron
yeah sounds more like what this channel really is theory basing possible allied races
hollow dock
(it really isnt but if you disagree with them you're ousted as a horrible human being for having a disagreement)
gilded drum
But whatâs the theory behind realistically having Eredar be suddenly cool guys and we love them now?
gilded drum
Who.. who did this to Vris.
civic saffron
lol im a horrible being period why would one worry
tropic trail
i think its this way because there isint much to talk about when it comes to new datamined stuff
gilded drum
I need the old Vris back
tropic trail
like for a while it was actual beta discussion
mortal merlin
Do you think we kill Azshara?
hollow dock
I can't answer.
gilded drum
We fight her at least. Thatâs confirmed.
tropic trail
but after everyone was over the new weapons and whatever it became this
civic saffron
most will prolly get back on the beta wagon when the first wave of beta inv go out
hollow dock
Yup
tropic trail
and then at night it becomes real bfa-beta-spoilers hours
gilded drum
I show up here to watch people say dumb shit and get chewed out by Vris
civic saffron
oh i bet we will finally kill off azshara this go around\
hollow dock
wow black mambas are fast enough to run down galloping horses.
mortal merlin
I dont want to kill her
tropic trail
naga travel form confirmed
hollow dock
No more chewing out by me
mortal merlin
I am for good redemption stories
civic saffron
speaking of hobgoblins is there any in wow never seen any
gilded drum
Yes
tropic trail
hollow dock
Yes there are. If you've seen those lumbering oafs in Deadmines
those are the hobgoblins
gilded drum
If youâve done the Goblin starting zone theyâre there too
civic saffron
they look more like offbred ogres
hollow dock
That's basically what they are in WoW.
hollow dock
Specifcally bred by goblins to be so stupid and loyal to their goblin masters.
They only live like a very short life span of 2-3 years.
hollow dock
Absolutely like Nwolf said we're going to be spammed with allied races forever and ever.
languid yoke
and people will forever cry "PLS GIEV HIGH ELVES"
gilded drum
After Draenor Orcs and potentially whatever alliance get
civic saffron
well as it stands we got 4 with preorder gettin 2 more at launch and a suspect at least a min of 2-3+ more during xpac
gilded drum
I wanna be done with em for the xpac
languid yoke
we will get more after those
hollow dock
Every other patch, NEW ALLIED RACES YAY! And we'll never, ever get sick and tired of it
languid yoke
:P
rich wedge
We're getting Zandalari and Dark Iron somewhere in 8.1 or once we hit max level in BfA
hollow dock
Yup it'll take us a whole 4-6 months to get to max level in BFA
languid yoke
yeah I'm curious how soon we'll get those
mortal merlin
Maybe sethrak and vulpera and jinyu and hozen? :D
languid yoke
probably only finish quest/rep grind
rich wedge
Then Draenor Orcs + X in 8.2 or 8.3
hollow dock
Yup! We'll definately most probably get them as allied races Kissy
mortal merlin
:D
hollow dock
and I'm only saying that because I can't disagree
civic saffron
yeah jinyu would be nice as well as ethereals
languid yoke
I think sth like 8.0 Zandalari+DID, 8.1 updated worgen/goblin, 8.2 Allied race spam is what's gonna happen
gilded drum
Early morning BfA-beta-spoilers is a mess what the heck
civic saffron
the updates to worgen tho is mostly female updates
languid yoke
it's 4 PM here
hollow dock
We're all fine here Quell!
mortal merlin
Etheareals dont have females I think
languid yoke
the updates to worgen will be updates to worgen
hollow dock
Who cares?!
languid yoke
male and female
gilded drum
Itâs 7 am for me
hollow dock
theyre capable of becomingallied races
rich wedge
@mortal merlin Neither do Dwarves rly...
hollow dock
9 am for me.
languid yoke
Ethereals would be something interesting when we get a void-themed xpac
gilded drum
Letâs just make everything in the game an allied race and we will never ever have conflict ever again
đ
gilded drum
Alright Iâm gonna peace out for the next foreseeable future
hollow dock
Hoggers can definately be an allied race!
mortal merlin
We need ogres and nagas
languid yoke
thank you sherlock
civic saffron
yeah but we all know of one gnoll the most
hollow dock
Which is why theyre all hoggers now.
languid yoke
I hogger, you hogger, he/she/it hoggers, hoggerlogy
civic saffron
hogger the new religion
languid yoke
hogger for class, race, gender, profession pls
hollow dock
Exactly! There is no war in Ba Sing Se.