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#beta-ptr-spoilers
polar mango
plain vigil
@uncut vault what does the void elf void form look like!?
@zinc sandal it moves at player speed so people dont get an op thing
floral gyro
@ruby prawn late but yes i understood
uncut vault
yeah trying now
zinc sandal
So void form is a proc?
uncut vault
mhm
zinc sandal
Ew
jade basalt
Yes it's a proc, here's a gif https://gfycat.com/SeriousJauntyBeaver
dense plover
so you get the racial mount for recruiting the race
floral gyro
holy fuck at least the anim is cool
zinc sandal
Looks great
plain vigil
Thatttts siiiiick @jade basalt
hollow dock
also good to see that they made void form not like worgen form
Im proud of them. now if only they'd do that for the worgen
uncut vault
hollow dock
I love that underwear
dense plover
they changed it
you dont need a 110 on a realm to make an allied race
you just need to unlock them via the quests
hollow dock
Oh neat.
dense plover
so you need 1 110 of horde and alliance
hollow dock
I might change my RP helf mage to a void elf now. they look very good.
uncut vault
my whole guild is doing that
floral gyro
making a velf spriest and a rogue
zinc sandal
All of a sudden everyone is a Void Elf. And then later on they will morph into Zandalari.
floral gyro
lightfoged paladin
mint arch
^
floral gyro
Lightforged*
floral gyro
Nightborne mage, highmountain warrior
uncut vault
looks just like allerias, minus the armor glowing
uncut vault
void elf holy priests inc
floral gyro
Lightforged are pretty much space marines already
Replace all mentions of the emperor with the light
hollow dock
who'd be chaos marines then?
main rose
Is anyone getting this issue where it says that there's internal errors?
zinc sandal
Does pre-order include game time?
floral gyro
vermintide 2 is coming
mint arch
not yet
mint arch
the trailer looked great
tacit vine
need a graphics card
mint arch
btw, those u were able to buy it, did u use credit card or paypal?
or does it not matter
someone was saying credit card wasnt working o.O
mint arch
hm
clever ember
PayPal is faster from what people are saying.
wild pewter
Any tips to get past queue? Currently meant to wait 6 days 😄
wild pewter
You're hilarious
worldly ember
Nah I got BfA preorder I just mean I tried to boost a void elf and it has been processing for like 15 minutes lmao. Thousands of other people doing it tho I'm not mad at blizz. just sad 😦
agile token
rip the heritage armor
worldly ember
ye I'll do it eventually
They gave me like 3 warnings for that haha
I'm gonna be using tier 21 anyway. It looks so good imo
jade basalt
Hmm
The pre-order page says "September 21 or before" for release
But the website says
"Battle for Azeroth: Launch
When Battle for Azeroth launches this summer.."
autumn igloo
Am i the only one who doesn’t give a quarter of a shit about the heritage armir
hollow dock
alright well, PTR is up but Im unsure if the allied races are unlocked there. I haven't preordered yet
autumn igloo
I just race changed to void elf
tulip sun
I am assuming they are hoping for summer
autumn igloo
Armor **
hollow dock
I only dont care about the lightforged armor
tulip sun
But Sept 21 is a safe bet in case
agile token
its not a bet
tulip sun
Net*
worldly ember
@autumn igloo nah I don't that's why I boostey >:)
agile token
its the literal date
worldly ember
Well, trying. lol.
agile token
"before september 21st"
hollow dock
That does include summer
tulip sun
Aran, chill
agile token
oh
tulip sun
It was a typo
clever ember
They said on or before. So they might be aiming for a summer release but are just giving themselves some extra wiggle room by saying September
worldly ember
been staring at the 6evar https://gyazo.com/6ee1243b08cfd329856ba0ed26892d4a
tulip sun
That's what I tried to say
clever ember
Wasn’t legion a sept 21 date too. But it ended up coming out in August.
I remember people being surprised it came out early.
🤷🏼♀️
neat girder
Anyone that did the nightborne scenario, don't you think it's a bit....empty ?
tulip sun
Doing it soon
flat cloud
is the pre purchase giftable ?
neat girder
Don't think so @flat cloud
flat cloud
that's too bad
hollow dock
https://image.prntscr.com/image/9m3fe96fSxuhE86FW5mTKg.png my friend just posted this.
tacit vine
do you have to separately get heritage armour for every character or only once?
dusky ginkgo
Each race
flat cloud
it's probably gonna appear in tmog pane
tacit vine
I mean like, makin 10 nb, you gotta get heritage with all or only the first
dusky ginkgo
The first. That's why I said "each race" instead of "each character"
tacit vine
good good
drowsy harbor
uncut vault
Looks like MrGM got his BfA content removed
tulip sun
O.o
hollow dock
Strike, strike, strike)
tight wagon
what did he post?
neat girder
There was a video about the zandalari druids forms, and the (pre-expac) scenario, battle for lordaeron, exploration and unfinished cutscenes
That's all i remember that was removed ...
dense plover
or he may have removed it for hype
uncut vault
No, he talked about it on Twitter
uncut vault
Twitter
dense plover
again
hollow dock
maybe they didn't strike him and just removed the videos.
dense plover
you cant just remove someones videos
uncut vault
You can remove videos without striking
dense plover
they could DMCA
neat girder
Either strikes, either Blizz reached out to him threatening about pursuing him about the content maybe ? 🤔
uncut vault
Especially if it’s all in one swoop
hollow dock
^
uncut vault
Might be hard for people who made beta vids to get any visuals till they get invites
dense plover
thats probably what they want
hollow dock
Blizzard probably doesn't want it getting out to the masses just yet.
dense plover
what is being shown off isnt done, and they dont want people seeing it and saying they saw one thing before they change it and make it something different
hollow dock
Without it already beign open to the public that is
tulip sun
We all saw it already, lol
neat girder
Also, no everything was shown in the datamined content i think, like the cutscenes for the scenario and zandalari druid forms especially
hollow dock
Yes it was. But not everyone on youtube sees datamined content like we do.
tulip sun
I love the nightborne starter little area
Named npcs comment, it is so neat
I ended up going female rogue
neat girder
Well i didn't see it on wowhead @hollow dock so...idk 😅
hollow dock
It was reported on WoWhead but never actually shown.
That's the one thing the main 3 didn't do that youtubers did, they didn't blaster unfinished work everywhere.
neat girder
Fair
hollow dock
Sad, but understandable.
zinc sandal
Is the credit card payment method working now?
hollow dock
prolly not. Im waiting a good 2 days before I even try
floral gyro
I'm hearing that paypal works fine
uncut vault
Credit card worked fine for me
jade basalt
Voidform + shadow priest Void form https://m.imgur.com/r/wow/5eg2b
tulip sun
PayPal worked for me
floral gyro
meh still looks cool
rich apex
Paypal worked for me when the Blizz pay system didn't
But probably smart to give it a day
floral gyro
yeah at the very least im waiting till later tonight
floral gyro
lmao
meager warren
if i buy the bfa, will i have a month subscription when it releases?
tulip sun
I don't think so
meager warren
the pre-order i mean
worthy minnow
it should be 50 even on release
meager warren
ok
worthy minnow
just u get to see some things first
hollow dock
the price doesnt change unless theres a sale.
Just youre garunteed to get it as soon as it comes out when you buy early :v
meager warren
i think i'll wait in that case
no point in getting hyped only to be bored of the races when it releases
worthy minnow
yup\
hollow dock
Its currently released.
hollow dock
races have been
meager warren
not zandalari or dark iron
hollow dock
and with the new way to level up,its pretty neat.
zinc sandal
Yay! Deluxe edition is mine.
tulip sun
Same
clever ember
Do you get both the horde and alliance mounts with the pre order? I haven’t gotten it yet. But I see people talking about having to choose between the two mounts
tulip sun
No, you get both
clever ember
Cool, good to know. Thank you.
hollow dock
Yes you get both. Wowheads post says it.
zinc sandal
Awesome.
zinc sandal
Credit card. It went through this time.
zinc sandal
Official website
floral gyro
👌 ill try in that case, hopefuly i get lucky
people are only getting charged multiple times if it fails and they retry right
zinc sandal
Allied Races are not on the PTR. Somebody asked earlier.
hollow dock
Wonder if BFAs PTR will have it unlocked.
zinc sandal
Most likely.
hollow dock
Now that I think of it, its pretty smart of blizz. This would boost sales of pre-orders even more.
zinc sandal
I mean, we broke their payment system. xD
hollow dock
Theyve probably made at least half back by now
tulip sun
The races appear in orgrimmar as you recruit them
zinc sandal
Oh aight.
compact wadi
Are zandalari trolls unlockable yet?
meager warren
no
tulip sun
Guys
compact wadi
When will they be? Prepatch I assume?
tulip sun
Someone go to violent and to actually see if the nightborne emissary went, lol
Hollsbrand*
meager warren
probably around launch. but not at launch, i don't think
tulip sun
Hillsbrand*
I have a feeling that is why we see a dead highmountain emissary, he went to ashenvale, similar to this nightborne going to hollsbrand
uncut vault
so Tpaartos is an exodar draenei, my theory is correct
tulip sun
I think if was confirmed previously that the lightforged we technically play, are exodar draenei who did the trials
meager warren
*Hillsbrad
tulip sun
I am on phone, it keeps autocorrecting it
true matrix
@compact wadi zandalari won't be available until post-120 so there's no reason to add them in before 8.0
uncut vault
Some people in spoilers chat were insistent that the initiates werent exodar draenei, but lightforged that had just been trudging along and not lightforged yet for thousands of years
compact wadi
Okay. I guess I'll just have to make a druid cat with horns
meager warren
hot
prime kestrel
meager warren
great
strange falcon
zinc sandal
Who's getting robbed?
hollow dock
Blizzard
worldly ember
sooo void elves and blood elves can't converse
;-;
But they speak the same language lul
tropic trail
well, you see, its okay for pandaren because everyone who plays pandaren are chill or 7 years old
void elves however
tulip sun
Anyone think mayla and thalyssra (or other prominent members of the race) will continue to appear in bfa??
rich apex
Nope
tulip sun
I have yet to do highmountain, but in the nightborne one, a good chunk seem eager to explore, and one even says she believes they will be called upon soon
rich apex
Well, alleria will
uncut vault
alleria is confirmed to
thalyssra might
I doubt we'll ever see mayla or fareeya again
tulip sun
May I ask why?
uncut vault
not elves, not relevant
tulip sun
Due to the low amount of taverns figures appearing previously?
Taurens*
I feel like ebonhorn will become prominent, and therefore mayla will appear.
uncut vault
just that blizz isnt one to keep continuity of characters all that well
aside from a select few
meager warren
i think we'll be seeing them again. Because the allied races don't trust the Horde/ Alliance as much as their leaders do
uncut vault
see: wrathion
uncut vault
Although I predict Christie is writing wrathion into the alliance in BtS
the issue still stands. Christies great at keeping her writing consistent
but the allied races arent her writing
tulip sun
That is why I believe ebonhorn will have some part involving the old gods
Christie is helping with the overall story of wow
uncut vault
I'll be pleasantly surprised if they play a major role in BfA
meager warren
wtf is BtS?
uncut vault
Yes, but her first writing job in game was Silithus, allied races were done and revealed before that questline
Before the Storm '
meager warren
ah
uncut vault
In BfA, totally
but like I said, she's good at keeping her writing consistent in future content
allied races arent her writing
meager warren
Silithus was dank. But it shouldn't have been released the way it was. Not enough content in it
tulip sun
I expected the new leaders to stay in the embassies, was sadly wrong.
Itndoesnt matter if the starting experience isn't her writing
She can still use them in the future
meager warren
yeah. why call it an embassy if it's got no ambassadors?
clever ember
Heh, they did upgrad the boost you buy in the shop, It's 110 now.
glass lake
Anyone susscesfully purches this yet??
ruby prawn
Did they release any more silithus quests?
Are they planning to?
In the stream they said tomorrow or Friday, right?
dense plover
i dont think they gave any dates
rich apex
^
dense plover
they said that a preview of the battleground is coming soon
ruby prawn
I remember them saying "more (I believe silithus quests) are coming in the near future, in like 1 or 2 days"
But i forgot what they said is coming
frigid umbra
The 4 extra realm char slots are coming in 1-2 days is what ion said
uncut vault
probably with tomorrows fix
dense plover
No, he didnt
He said ideally in the next few days
And that it would come in a hotfix
ruby prawn
Yeah, it was the slots. I remember now
golden hedge
ruby prawn
That's something you should post in #no-wow-discussion
frigid umbra
Go re watch the interview.. he said soon... in like the next day or 2
tropic trail
T'Paartos vs Snakes!
tender pelican
damn... what happens when BfA released, will jungle troll males shrink in order to fit lore that says: "zandalari troll is a head taller than jungle trolls"
frigid umbra
Or they wont make jungle trolls
tender pelican
we already have jungle troll male, but will possibly shrink the model size
frigid umbra
Ooo wait... are stv jungle trolls?
frigid umbra
Stranglethorn vale
frigid umbra
Well the jungle trolls are hunched and zandalari are not.... sooo... i guess its kinda good... a head dif
In hight
tender pelican
but, if jungle trolls stand, it must be smaller than zanda trolls
they're normally hunched
zanda trolls have same height as night elves
only ice trolls and dark trolls are taller than zanda trolls
frank latch
Do we know when beta keys will be distributed?
uncut vault
theres been no beta announcement
frank latch
jovial coral
You don't get beta entry from presale right? Or favoritism
rich wedge
supposedly not
tropic trail
tfw not sure what to pick anymore.
tropic trail
guys any idea if I'll change my char from horde to ally - will I be able to choose one of the new races?
neat girder
If you've unlocked the races, i guess so 🤔
clever ember
As long as the race is unlocked on your account and the target allied race can be the class you’re faction changing.
tropic trail
Thnx
mint arch
sylvanas: "another arrow to add to my quiver" <-- talking about the nightborne
yaaaaa, she really cares about the horde eh
and LOL, the horde's selfless leaders in the war against legion XD
i dunno sylvanas, i didnt see any horde do anything and u were off being evil
modest whale
I have a question about the pre-purchase. If we pre-purchase, do we get the box with art and stuff?
I'm asking cause when i pre-purchased WOD, i got the box. But when i pre-purchased Legion, i didn't get the box.
So, would i get it or not. And if not, where could i still obtain it?
tulip sun
There are two different versions I believe
Digital and physical
Box doesn't go with digital
But if you pre purchase the physical, yrd
Yes
rich wedge
if you prepurchase physical, you wont be able to unlock allied races or use your boost now though
blizzard suggests something convoluted like preordering both digital and physical, then, gifting the BfA code once you get your physical preorder, unless they changed something this time around
jovial coral
Any evidence of a new class
tulip sun
No..
rich wedge
6 new races (so far) no new class
tulip sun
Seven if you count draenei orcs
modest whale
Ooh okay thanks c:
Also, i heard if you pre-order today, you will get a 110 boost.
But if you pre-order tommorow or next week, do you still get that boost or not?
tulip sun
Ya
modest whale
Oh okay c: thanks!! Good to know. I was afraid you would only get the boost today
hollow dock
You dont even need to preorder for the boost
clever ember
The boost is for all preorders. It was bugged yesterday though. So be careful. Boosted my alliance hunter and it didn’t go through at all. Kept processing. I haven’t check on it yet this morning though so I don’t know if it’s still bugged
Well you get the boost by just buying the xpac.
hollow dock
just buying BFA will get you your boost.
clever ember
But if you pre order the digital deluxe version. You get it immediately. Same with the ingame items for wow and the allied races. If you have them unlocked.
hollow dock
If you preorder it, you get it now. If you buy BFA later or when released, you get it then. :v
dim flower
They should make it so that they just ship you the box when you preorder
I mean nobody installs with discs anymore, they’re just collectibles
I have all of the boxes but I might’ve lost some
hollow dock
the physical preorder isnt for the install discs
its for everything else.
and people like having the discs. they like getting the box. Feels good for them to display. Plus they have multiple ways to just preorder online to get rewards instantly.
dim flower
Yeah I know
That’s what I said
But I’d like the box because I mean cmon it’s pretty
clever ember
I remember when you had to use the disks to instal lol
dim flower
But I wouldn’t like to use $120 to get that and the rewards
Wait really?
Ah dude you’re cool
hollow dock
Indeed. Not every game I own is digital
dim flower
I’ve gotten the physical copy for every example once the first patch came out since TBC
clever ember
I have a few games that require disk usage. But my disk drive is messed up so I don’t play them.
dim flower
I still hate being a teenager
hollow dock
I still have my mass effect discs that require you to swap em when you get halfway in the game :v
dim flower
expansion*
clever ember
I have zoo tycoon that requires disk usage
dim flower
Disc usage is the best way tbh
clever ember
I’m glad wow doesn’t require disks anymore.
dim flower
Maybe not in terms of efficiency but
clever ember
Digital stuff is way more convenient.
dim flower
Reliability
clever ember
Mmhmm
dim flower
Plus nostalgia
Anyone have any leads on how legendaries will work?
Like are we getting MOP-style legendaries or Vanilla-style legendaries?
hollow dock
What ya talkin about?
hollow dock
Are ya askin if we're keeping the legendary system we have now? We're not. Its getting replaced by the Azerite armor which is basically the same thing but better. No other news on if they will have a questline like Vanilla, Cata, MoP or WoD or if they'll be flat drops like BC or Legion.
ruby prawn
Vris
true matrix
I miss quest legendaries...
ruby prawn
I am gonna miss class halls
I can't give up the shaman class hall
It's just perfect aesthetically
true matrix
it's a rock in the middle of the ocean
ruby prawn
It's great
hollow dock
as far as Im aware
ruby prawn
The rain, the colors, the wind
tropic trail
^
hollow dock
I dont, Mei
hollow dock
it does? Man that makes Shamans one of the lower classes on my book then
ruby prawn
It's just a hearthstone v2
We basically have 3 hearthstones
Dalaran, the normal one and ancestral
tropic trail
Four, with garrison hs
ruby prawn
I deleted that
hollow dock
Sucks for you then. I keep getting mogs with my garrison
tropic trail
Can’t blame you :^)
ruby prawn
I loved it when I destroyed it
hollow dock
You coulda destroyed it first day of WoD ya know
true matrix
hollow dock
Why? I only went there to get the start of my legendary quest and nothing else.
ruby prawn
It was a quick access to Draenor
hollow dock
hearthstone to Stormshield
ruby prawn
And hearthstone to garrison
hollow dock
Why bother with the garrison tho?
hollow dock
What content? Going out to the world?
ruby prawn
The Draenor content in WoD
hollow dock
You didn't need your garrison to go and do the questline or world content.
ruby prawn
I didn't hang out much in draenor
hollow dock
Neither did I
ruby prawn
I didn't want to be alone
dim flower
Oh the legendary question
hollow dock
I went there for WB, raids, and legendary quest. I went back to azeroth like everyone else :v
hollow dock
5 if you count the mount
dim flower
Nah
hollow dock
its alegendary item
hollow dock
Legendarist.
dim flower
You see every class had something in MOP
hollow dock
right, the 5 cloaks.
hollow dock
No one knows how it'll work in BFA.
We dont even know if they'll have legendaries there.
dim flower
Aight thank you <3
Oh yeah well
Considering how they mentioned they’re sticking to quest chain system or at least leaving the Legion system
hollow dock
As far as I've heard, theyre considering going back to the expansion long quest chain.
hollow dock
I dont
dim flower
Rather than cloaks/rings
frigid umbra
i kinda hope they do the old style... a random part and a q chain part a la wrath shadowmourne or cata fangs of the father, not the mop wod style... i hate that. i got the cloak in mop, in wod i couldnt even be bothered with the ring
dim flower
I mean hey the legendary weapon system wasn’t horrible...hope Blizz keeps the entire upgrade legendary thing though
Sulfuras became obsolete at a point
hollow dock
It didn't become obsolete until Shamans got their windfury fixed
hollow dock
after that it was just thunderfury, blessed blade of the windseeker because thunderfury, blessed blade of the windseeker was an amazing tanking item
hollow dock
so much so that it was viable at BCs first tier of raiding.
frigid umbra
tanks can suck it :))
hollow dock
If there was a guild that let their rogue take it, they were really silly.
gusty wolf
Did someone say Thunderfury, Blessed Hand of the Windseeker?
hollow dock
The threat gen from the AOE on that was amazingly good
frigid umbra
sure..
dim flower
I love that WoWhead comment
hollow dock
Yes I said Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker
dim flower
“Shadowmourne is a Hunter weapon”
frigid umbra
but not having it does not mean you cant tank raids
dim flower
That’s very fair
hollow dock
I never said that Alex.
hollow dock
I said it was so good for tanks that it was around for BCs first tier of raiding
frigid umbra
but was just saing.. rogues can use it with no major downfall
frigid umbra
you could reset farely often
hollow dock
And what happens when Vanish is on CD and you pull threat from its procs again?
dim flower
True
hollow dock
Rogues and Shamans were the biggest threat problems I remmeber.
frigid umbra
you dont do big crits are a rogue
dim flower
Nah, I was definitely one as a warrior
frigid umbra
just small fast damage
frigid umbra
not enough to pull the boss if you know what you are doing
hollow dock
Especially when the dps charts came out and our guilds rogue kept tunnel visioning on his damage.
hollow dock
Alright. He was still our best dps by like 10%. But no one would let a rogue, at least on my server, or anyone not a tank get Thunderfury.
It was simply to good for tanks to not give to them
dim flower
Dunno why you guys are melee DPSing in Vanilla
frigid umbra
lol
hollow dock
I wasn't.
dim flower
In raw numbers
hollow dock
Then they dont need thunderfury.
dim flower
Polymorph FTW
frigid umbra
what else is there then raw numbers
dim flower
Gotta love those sap wipes
frigid umbra
in dps
pale tide
sex appeal
hollow dock
that too
dim flower
In terms of DPS, they’re tied with fury warrs
But in terms of the role DPS, we have mage
frigid umbra
rogues have enough survivability
dim flower
The best CC class in the game if I remember
hollow dock
The best was mage actually.
dim flower
With decent enough damage
hollow dock
Oh misread that
frigid umbra
hmmm.. i would argue that for pve mage.. for pvp rogue
dim flower
Rogue wins
Yeag
Unless you can blizzard him out of stealth and avoid opener
Rogue wins by a landslide
hollow dock
especially with CDs up
hollow dock
but in PVE, they were far less oppressive.
dim flower
They were really good damage though
I was happy whenever I topped a rogue in DPS on my fury warrior
Especially because I was undergeared af
frigid umbra
lol there was a wow movie quote when fighting a warr... "reclessness - eat couldowns" to kill the warr
well there was a bad word in there somewhere.. but i skipped that 😃
dim flower
I got kicked from a...server you shouldn’t be playing...for using racist slang...but I mean like
frigid umbra
well.... wow is what 5+.. who knows whos in here
dim flower
We have a maturity filter
hollow dock
I mean. Racist slang is different from saying fuck.
dim flower
True but I mean
Nobody with the thing checked can read it
But by racist slang I was reciting the moon man lyrics
I’m not really racist lol don’t worry my guys
frigid umbra
but yeah... thundefury def pala item.. if you in a guild that denies you that... gquit 😬
hollow dock
We gave it to our pally tank :v
ruby prawn
Anyone here playing currently on EU?
hollow dock
Then gave it to our warr tank
ruby prawn
I need to know the current emissaries
hollow dock
then to any DPS that wanted to roll for it
dim flower
Is arcane mage viable?
hollow dock
right now?
frigid umbra
sure
dim flower
Nah classic
hollow dock
Its one of the top if you're on a low movement fight.
dim flower
Arcane mage definitely viable now
hollow dock
Oh. not really.
dim flower
Rip
frigid umbra
well depends on the patchh
dim flower
I loved Arcane mage pre-BFA changes
hollow dock
Arcane mage wasn't a viable spec until about WotLK when combat mana regen was a thing
frigid umbra
at the begining you would see them with from hubrid
hybrid
there was a tallent for mana regen in arcane
hollow dock
Hybrid Arcane/Fire wasn't pure arcane tho.
It was useless back then because your mana pool would be gone before you realized it
frigid umbra
true
dim flower
3MM anybody?
frigid umbra
but mana pots were a thing
dim flower
That’s true yeah
hollow dock
Once a minute
dim flower
Were they worth the mana drain?
hollow dock
in terms of a DPS in a raid fight, they were not that viable.
You were better going frost or fire.
dim flower
Yeah can we make it work
hollow dock
Viable, at least to me in the context of vanilla, was pulling Middle of the pack DPS and not having to pull jank
frigid umbra
you can make work anything in vanilla
hollow dock
You can
dim flower
Didn’t we have combat mana regen?
frigid umbra
will never top dps or healing
dim flower
MP5?
hollow dock
but most of it is through pulling janky ass combos.
frigid umbra
true
hollow dock
and most of the MP5 items went to healers.
frigid umbra
ret pala ftw
hollow dock
in a 40 man enviroment you can't be greedy
frigid umbra
some are
dim flower
I guess I’ll just do it based on resistance
Which begs the question
Best spec for AQ20/40?
I’d guess frost for slime boss
dim flower
Right, but you can’t change in the raid
frigid umbra
not sure
dim flower
Ah well
frigid umbra
anyway.. we should chill on the vanilla here.. its wrong chat channel
dim flower
You right
frigid umbra
BFA preorder to get back on track 😃
dim flower
Hope we get the Vanilla-WotLK leggo system though
I mean we probably won’t
But I’m crossing my fingers
dense plover
So I don’t see the problem with heirlooms people were talking about. I’m one or two shooting most regular mobs as an arcane Mage, and only minibosses seem to take a bit, like maybe once through my rotation. I really don’t see the problem
Also
Just realized something
hollow dock
On my spriest things were able to hit me for a few seconds before they died. but then again arcane has faster ramping damage
dense plover
Lghtforged get bonus xp from demons right?
dense plover
So they will probably level faster through Outland than wrath right?
hollow dock
marginally faster yea.
dense plover
I mean
ruby prawn
That's a big bonus point
dense plover
It adds up over the course of 20 levels
hollow dock
you get 1 extra level
ruby prawn
If you roll a monk (if you can) you get even more xp
dense plover
I’m short on time
ruby prawn
Lightforged can me monks?
dense plover
I spend my money on collectors edition and staying subbed
ruby prawn
Monks get that extra 50% xp from what I remember
hollow dock
Yup they do.
dense plover
Yeah
dense plover
They go to the mountain, do a quest and get more xp
ruby prawn
Still nice
ruby prawn
The thing I hate is that they can teleport to the mountain but shamans cant
ruby prawn
Very intelligent Blizzard
dense plover
I mean the mountain is their order hall before order halls
ruby prawn
Giving a non magic welding class a teleportation feature
sullen dagger
it's more of a meh hing
hollow dock
You think monks dont use magic?
ruby prawn
Chi isn't magic
sullen dagger
they use chi
dense plover
It’s meditation
sullen dagger
kinda is
dense plover
They center themselves
ruby prawn
Chi is inner spiritual stuff
dense plover
It’s like iron fist
hollow dock
Magic is the manipulation of energy. As is Chi.
sullen dagger
go read some xianxia or wuxia
dense plover
They don’t teleport
sullen dagger
per example
misty blaze
do you have to have a 110 to even unlock horde allied races
hollow dock
yes
ruby prawn
yes
sullen dagger
yes
dense plover
Yes
hollow dock
Chi manipulates energy
of your body
Fundamentally, theyre the same thing.
Besides, mistweaving is certainly a form of magic. Just not arcane based.
dense plover
I agree
misty blaze
hmm all mine are alliance on stgormrage i could faction change one my 110's i dont play would that work
sullen dagger
maybe leveling a char?
sullen dagger
i dnt get why people buy tokens
sullen dagger
nah, i mean level up tokens
hollow dock
oh the boosts?
sullen dagger
yea
hollow dock
theyre whales and want to skip leveling
ruby prawn
I don't understand how tokens work. Shouldn't they get cheaper instead of more expensive?
sullen dagger
it's encouraging blizzard to do more pay stuff
hollow dock
I rather like it. but i have the time to spend leveling
ruby prawn
I understand that. That's why I don't understand why they are more expensive. They are like infinite on the auction market
hollow dock
they are not
that's why you dont understand it
Despite it being digital, it is not an infinite product.
ruby prawn
Last time I checked there were full pages of it
dense plover
It’s a market of supply and demand
ruby prawn
Waited for them to drop, but never did
dense plover
Pages full, but people are buying them
sullen dagger
yep
dense plover
People are both buying and selling
sullen dagger
and people hafta buy yo fir 20 €
hollow dock
And if a ton of players buy it, the prices keeps going up
sullen dagger
it*
dense plover
Many were bought yesterday and many sold so market went up by a lot
Almost 40k gold in 12 hours
hollow dock
With things like Destiny and BFA coming out, a lot of people are buying tokens with their gold to pay for their preorders and games
dense plover
And apparebtly
hollow dock
since the tokens can be redeemed for more than just wowtime now, their price has skyrocketed
sullen dagger
yep
dense plover
Over night it went up to 240k, then dropped back to 180k
hollow dock
Auction house
sullen dagger
that's a msart and a fucked up move from blizzard
hollow dock
Supply/Demand
dense plover
So the market has already normalized in the US
dim flower
@worthy minnow We were supposed to attack Stormwind instead of Teldrassil
hollow dock
They did actually
dense plover
My guess is a lot of selling and a lot less people buying since everyone buying has already bought
hollow dock
You're not buying with real life currency. you're not buying gear for thousands of real life dollars.
dense plover
You can’t ever get real money back
hollow dock
You can only ever circulate their own currency
sullen dagger
well, that's relative
dense plover
You get the equivalent of functional Monopoly money
dim flower
I really should read up on the speculated lore though
sullen dagger
there's roundabouts
dim flower
Before I get my feet too wet
sullen dagger
yeah, but that dont stop people from diong it
and the people ho does that get more profit
dense plover
Even in real markets
ruby prawn
"rules are made to be broken"
sullen dagger
who*
hollow dock
TL;DR of the speculated lore:
Sylvanas might have or might not have burned teldrassil. She plans on attackign stormwind so its likely a third faction or rogue horde group did hte burning.
sullen dagger
that silvannas sister is crazy af
hollow dock
Which one?
ruby prawn
@hollow dock the Forsaken clan that made their own thing instead of following her
sullen dagger
it wondt surprise me that much
hollow dock
Veressa? She's pretty sane all things considered.
sullen dagger
Sulvannas
dense plover
I think it’s probably the undead faction
sullen dagger
Sylvannas*
hollow dock
Sylvannas isnt that crazy
dense plover
It should
ruby prawn
Sylvanas is crazy
dense plover
She doesn’t want to attack darnassus
hollow dock
she's actually very logical and sane. carefully planning out each step she takes.
sullen dagger
crazy =! fool
dense plover
She makes rational decisions
sullen dagger
she has lotsa rage for everyone to share
dense plover
Evil decisions
hollow dock
She's cold, she's calculating, she's indimidating.
dense plover
But rational
hollow dock
She is hardly angry or emotional.
dense plover
^
sullen dagger
and only likes the other udeads
hollow dock
Well yea. that's her people.
hollow dock
As for only
dense plover
Yeah I don’t know where you are getting the idea she is crazy. She hasn’t done anything crazy
ruby prawn
She wanted to attack Stormwind, but because she is warchief some Forsaken think they are not getting much attention anymore, so a few of them started making their own decisions against her
dense plover
Especially if you are voljin
sullen dagger
you have to have critical thinking
ruby prawn
The Loa know the way
hollow dock
Not in this case Omake
dense plover
She does have critical thinking
hollow dock
The Loa are beyond wise and their word is law to the Trolls.
dense plover
What?
sullen dagger
yeah, for trolls it is
hollow dock
Unlike the Light, the Loa can actually destroy your people if you disobey
sullen dagger
but fro sylvannas and the rest of the horde? not quite so
dense plover
What?
hollow dock
The Loa is why she was placed in charge Omake
sullen dagger
hm
ruby prawn
Unless Vol'jin was being manipulated by the legion or old gods
hollow dock
The Loa gave Vol'jin the vision and deemed to Vol'jin that Sylvanas was next to lead. Vol'jin does not question them. No troll ever second guesses them. Except maybe the Drakari when they ate theirs
ruby prawn
Who is Omake?
hollow dock
Omakehell
ruby prawn
I never heard about him in troll lore
hollow dock
Omake is the person we're talking to
dense plover
🤦♂️
sullen dagger
my point os this: sylvannas only cares for his undead. that's a problem for the horde which need cohesion. like alot. point 2, she's not that sane, she died 3 times, and she harbour a fuckton of hate for the rest of the "living races" and that includes part of the horde
she's up to something and that's not good
dense plover
she doesn’t harbor hate for living races
hollow dock
She doesn't harbor any hatred for the living.
dense plover
She hates Genn
hollow dock
She harbors distaste for the alliance. because she is horde.
dense plover
And the alliance
hollow dock
Secondly
she doesn't only care for the Forsaken. She has only shown that because she's only had to lead them.
sullen dagger
also, she is a warmonger with problems with the alliance, and we (alliance and horde) are having biiiger problems than the azerite, old goods and that stuff
dense plover
She isn’t insane. She has died 3 times. Dying 3 times doesn’t make you insane
What makes her a warmonger?
ruby prawn
Saurfang has his eyes on her and made that pretty clear in the cinematic and the unreleased book
sullen dagger
time will tell
dense plover
The alliance has attacked first twice
hollow dock
She hasn't actually taken any steps to start war
dense plover
Once in stornheim
hollow dock
We, the Alliance, did.
dense plover
And then again, in silithus
ruby prawn
What did she do in Silithus
dense plover
The horde is doing their thing and the alliance is like - kill the horee
hollow dock
She's still evil, don't get us wrong.
dense plover
Mine azerite
hollow dock
She's still a villain.
dense plover
And alliance attacked
hollow dock
But calling her a Warmonger is far from the truth
dense plover
Anti-hero moreso
ruby prawn
Alliance attacked first
dense plover
Bad but for possibly good reasons
ruby prawn
Alliance shot first
dense plover
Yes that’s what I said exosdar
hollow dock
as both the alliance and horde dont know what good she's doing
I'm calling her a villain
worthy jolt
why would they attack first?
dense plover
but you don’t know if she is doing bad
ruby prawn
@worthy jolt jealousy
ruby prawn
Envy
hollow dock
We attacked to stop their mining operates of Azerite and Genn attacked for vengence of his son and city
sullen dagger
i just hope this will steer the direction of the plot away from alliance vs horde
worthy jolt
so they went to destroy the undercity?@dense plover
sullen dagger
and more to "lets save our fucking home from the old gods
dense plover
I think the undefcity conquering is tied to the burning of the tree
hollow dock
We know that as fact.
dense plover
But the reasoning behind that is what we don’t know
worthy jolt
Teldrassil burning happened because of?
hollow dock
No one knows
dense plover
Sylvanas has no plan to attack the tree
sullen dagger
i think they said already tledrassil burned before the siege of undercity
dense plover
She has no reason to
worthy minnow
might be the undeads