#beta-ptr-spoilers

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hollow dock
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than deal with allof northrend

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Northrend level is so dull :v

dense plover
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Howling fjord, grizzly hills, storm peaks

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And that green titan zobe

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The one whose name I always forget

dim flower
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Sholozar Basin?

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Something like that?

dense plover
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Yeah

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I liked that too

dim flower
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Same

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That zones one of my faves

dense plover
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I’ve never really done icecrown because I always outleveled it

dim flower
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But I mean

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SMV

dense plover
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And boring tundra

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Ugh

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And dragon blight has the too damn big problem

dim flower
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IDK

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I’ve always wanted to do BT

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Not so much DV

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DB*

dense plover
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It’s fun the first time

hollow dock
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it was interesting.

dense plover
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Same with dragon blight

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It’s just not visually interesting

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So doing those zones multiple times can be depressing

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Cata doesn’t have that problem

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Biggest problem with cata was the fact that you never got enough story because you outlevled them

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And pandaria was beautiful, but I usually only got through jade forest and half of another zone

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I’ve still never done krasarang wilds or the insect zone there

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The one with the big sha tree

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And apparently isle of giants can be used as part of a leveling zone now too

true matrix
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dread wastes

dense plover
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Honestly the only reason I’m not leveling a new character is because I’m getting my horde rp character to 110 (only need a level) and because I’m waiting for some info on allied races to decide if I should wait or not

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Yes, thank you

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I’ve only been to dread wastes to run the sha raid for a transmog I never got

gusty wolf
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Pandaria had the best atmosphere, imho.

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I liked the visuals and the music a lot.

dense plover
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Absolutely

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I wish I had been around to play

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I got interested when timeless isle and SoO were a year in

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And I got a 90 boost with warlords, so I boosted a character, and got back into the game

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Atmosphere was great

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If they had the WQ system back then, SoO patch would’ve been a lot less awful

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I hope one day they do WQs for old zones for current content

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Stuff like he legion invasions

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Or something

hollow dock
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they have added 1 world quest to the old zone of STV

gusty wolf
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😱

dense plover
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They did?

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Do you mean the fishing event?

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That’s more of a tech change tbh

hollow dock
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Yea. Its sitll a world quest :v

dense plover
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🙄

steel venture
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One thing I'm hoping for tho. Zandalari better be fixed to be taller.
At the moment male Zandas are shorter than unhunched Darkspear

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From what we can gauge from previews.

dense plover
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I mean

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They can’t be much taller

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Doors

steel venture
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Tauren?

hollow dock
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Tauren arent trolls

dense plover
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Also, darkspear trolls have been a different species for long enough that maybe they got taller

hollow dock
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and when you're stocky, you tend to be shorter. :v When you're lanky, you tend to be taller.

dense plover
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Darkspear haven’t changed since their beginning as a species

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They’ve been the same for more than 10k years

steel venture
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If they're at least tauren height it works. They are the tallest troll race still living.

dense plover
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darkspear trolls have been separate for at least 10k years

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Also, yeah they could make them taller

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This is the first iteration of the modeling

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There will certainly be more feedback

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Once beta is available

steel venture
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Mhm. Scales aren't 100% set yet.

tulip sun
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I wonder if they will throw a curve ball and give the alliance a usually horde species. Such as steamwhredle goblins, a different type of trolls, even grimtotem. I doubt it, but o.o

steel venture
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Dark troll maybe?

hollow dock
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Dark Trolls have been basically extinct though :v

jade basalt
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Zandalari trolls, in lore, are the tallest trolls, even taller than Darkspear and Vol'jin himself. This is mentioned several times in Vol'jin's novel too.

steel venture
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If any are still alive.

hollow dock
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The last known tribe was wiped out during hte battle for mount Hyjal during the third war iirc

jade basalt
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We don't know for sure;

hollow dock
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We know for certain they were wiped out :v whether or not they were the aboslute last is unknown but for the simple fact that theyre not even referenced or reached during the troll incursions

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We can safely assume theyre gone.

jade basalt
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Brann Bronzebeard believes that they were wiped out by the Twilight's Hammer, but he hasn't had a chance to check their caves yet.

hollow dock
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If they are underground, they can't be all to friendly to us surface dwellers. Or even be trolls anymore.

dense plover
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^

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My theory is that drogbar are related to trolls common ancestor too

steel venture
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Brann theorizes that MAYBE the shadowtooth got axed. But he hasn't been able to check

jade basalt
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They were friendly to people 10 years ago during the Third War.

dense plover
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10 years is a long time

hollow dock
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But that was 10 years. and if theyve been underground for ten years.

jade basalt
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Not really, no.

dense plover
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Also, where does it say that zandalari trolls are the tallest

hollow dock
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Who knows what horrors theyve uncovered in those caves.

dense plover
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I’m not doubting, I’m just curios

steel venture
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Voljins novel

dense plover
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Curious

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What’s the context for it. Do they describe them as towering over the darkspear ?

steel venture
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Yep.

jade basalt
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Yup, one head taller than Vol'jin

dense plover
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I mean it could just be that they are taller than hunched over darkspear

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That’s a good compromise where they can fit through doors

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Make them Tauren height

jade basalt
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Re:dark trolls The point is : 1) it is not confirmed they have been wiped out 2) you can't just assume that dark trolls have turned into not-trolls over the course of just 10 years. We really don't know anything about them.

dense plover
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Oh no I’m not

jade basalt
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No no not you

dense plover
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But they could’ve changed positions

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Maybe they hate everything now

jade basalt
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Someone else said dark trolls might no longer be trolls

dense plover
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Emo trolls

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😛

steel venture
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So at least 10ft.
Vol'jin doesnt hucnh around other trolls.

dense plover
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Gameplay sometimes has to beat lore

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We can’t have players that can’t access some buildings

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Tauren is the max player height

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Anything larger would break old doors

steel venture
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Tauren height works in game. If they match it.

open scarab
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we had dark trolls in wc 3 😛

dense plover
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I think they could be that tall

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They can’t be taller

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It would break the gameplay

hollow dock
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Many male Zandalari stand a head taller than an upright jungle troll on average, most even more. And even short males tend to be taller.[6]
Female Zandalari stand taller than male and female trolls from other subspecies, excluding ice trolls and dark trolls.[6] (Source: page 200 of Voljin: Shadow of the horde)

dense plover
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Hmmm

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They could always retcon

steel venture
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Tauren are 10ft+ too. despite a smaller in game model.

dense plover
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It isn’t specified in chronicles

hollow dock
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We know they haven't been seen anywhere on Azeroth since the third war.

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that's a fact.

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When the Zandalari called, only the surviving troll tribes responded.

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That too is a fact.

dense plover
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Hopefully they do increase the zandalari height

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But I don’t think you can make everyone happy

hollow dock
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From these two, we can make the conclusion that they aren't a living troll tribe or they've been incapable of answering the call.

dense plover
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Some people will be disappointed that they aren’t their actual height

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Even though they can’t do it without stuff breaking

gusty wolf
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But even if they happen to still exists, they shouldn't be numerous enough to count as race. Rather, a bunch of individuals.

dense plover
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Well you can be a race without having a sizable population

hollow dock
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And if theyre underground, the old gods certainly got to them in some way shape or form.

dense plover
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You are just eventually going to go extinct

gusty wolf
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Exactly.

dense plover
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There are 3 Sumatran rhinos left, doesn’t make them not a species

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Just extinct in the future

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😢

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sorry to be a bit depressing

gusty wolf
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So you shouldn't be able to have 1M players rolling them.

hollow dock
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Idd.

dense plover
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That’s my logic behind high elves

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The population is too small

hollow dock
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Thats the logic blizz has been using as far as Im aware.

dense plover
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And they look just like blood elves except for eye color

hollow dock
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You're the first person Ive seen tos pecify look

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Thank you peach.

dense plover
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Generally a population has to be sizeable enough to be a race

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And different enough

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Difference for gameplay reasons

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Population for excuses and lore reasons

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It’s the reason I don’t expect to see blood trolls

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They use regular troll models

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That and they are the bad guys

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They are the raid bad guys

steel venture
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Void elves exist because Blizzard couldn't do high elves without retconning and reworking them from the ground up.

jade basalt
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Had to dig through my notes but, here.

  • "He stood amid a crowd of Zandalari, members of the troll tribe from which all other tribes had descended. They had become, over the years, taller than most and exalted."
  • "They stood at least a head taller than [Vol'jin] did, and twice that if one measured arrogance."
  • "[Vol'jin] was too tall for pandaren armor but too short for Zandalari."
  • "two Zandalari warriors started to the north post. One, the smaller of the two — which still made him taller than Vol'jin — kicked Vol'jin's hip."
  • "As he engaged the trolls coming along the bridge and swarming up the edges of the island, Vol' jin consciously realized what he'd unconsciously discovered previously: he wasn't facing Zandalari. Not all of them, anyway. The tall ones certainly were. Their height — and the fact that more than one sprouted a red-shafted arrow from eye or throat as they came — gave them away. The others, though wearing Zandalari armor, had to be Gurubashi and Amani. " -> lots of trolls, tall ones are certainly Zandalari
  • "she stood taller than any other troll she'd met who was not pureblood Zandalar"
  • "Vol'jin found himself whole and hale, strong of limb and standing tall. A fierce sun beat down on him as he stood in a courtyard with thousands of other trolls. They had nearly a head's height on him, yet none of them made an issue of it. In fact, none of them seemed to notice him at all. "

So yeah Zandalari are, in lore, the tallest of the trolls.

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Mogu are taller than Zandalari though, and they are 1 foot taller than Vol'jin.

hollow dock
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the mogu are massive

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cuz theyre statues

dense plover
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Mogu are big though

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They can’t do doors at all

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Player races have to fit through doors

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As a result Tauren is the max player height

jade basalt
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I wasn't saying mogu should be an allied race, I'm just using them for size comparison

dense plover
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Yes

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I know

hollow dock
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players can grow larger than baseline tauren tho :v through stacking

dense plover
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Just explaining the problems with height

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It’s a complex issue

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They could fix it by redoing the height of some of the medium races

steel venture
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Mogu are 💯 👌

dense plover
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Make gnomes and humans a bit smaller

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Scale down goblins and such

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But it would be weird

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And it isn’t worth the work

steel venture
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Weirdly they upscaled most races in BFA

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It's documented on the Wowpedia height page.

Hhsguffjj LEGION I MEAN

hollow dock
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whyd you type that in the same post

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but not correct it

steel venture
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Because my phone is impossible on this discord. There's so manu people typing lags

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90% of the time i have to correct a bunch of mistakes, but cant go bac to edit things
the BFA mention was a separatepost

terse patrol
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I wish that the vrykul drinking horn didnt give you a viking helmet

steel venture
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Oh eas fix.
Horn + day of the dead costume. Remove costumes. No helmet.

ruby prawn
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Mogu won't be a race

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Because they are against pandaren

steel venture
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Works with anything that gives an alt helm. And it'll return to default.

ruby prawn
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And only fight for themselves

terse patrol
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I want fleshy mogu, not stone mogu.

ruby prawn
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Still, ugly af

steel venture
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Fleshy mogu don't exist anymore.

hollow dock
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we never said mogu would be a race.

terse patrol
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and thats why i dont want them to be a playable race

hollow dock
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even the 'fleshy' mogu is still stone

dense plover
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Yeah there are no fleshy mogu

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They fired their curse of flesh using the titan machine thing

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Cured

hollow dock
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Yogg-saron, you're fired.

dense plover
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oh woops

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fixed

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not fired

frigid umbra
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how much until the q&a?

tulip sun
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3 and a half hrs

frigid umbra
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tnx

hollow dock
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Cmon, meme us hard

frigid umbra
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?

hollow dock
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Im hoping Watcher and Lore troll the ever living hell out of us

frigid umbra
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lol neah... preorder incoming and allied races... first 2

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100%

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maybe alpha/beta news

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like we will have it soon TM... so i guess that would be a troll

hollow dock
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My argument is that preorder and allied races being released during legion has nothing to do with BFAs development

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as this is a QnA about BFAs development

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:v

frigid umbra
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this's how happy i'll be if i'm righht

tulip sun
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I have my hopes up

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We shall see

frigid umbra
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well... its preorder for bfa... how more about bfa can it be... and allied races were announced in bfa video.... when would they release a preorder if not during legion?? after bfa launch?

tulip sun
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Mrgm convinced me xD

hollow dock
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All he ever does is bitch and moan though

frigid umbra
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about?

tulip sun
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I mean, ya

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But he has someone's who's apparently yelling him stuff weeks before it releases, and he is correct

stiff vector
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i mean, ion is answering "World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth questions"

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and he's game director

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so stuff like "when is preorder out" does apply

tulip sun
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I am not saying 100 percent

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But

hollow dock
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He only did it on scaling. and he used a really poor example of things we one shot now are left with 3% hp

tulip sun
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Who?

hollow dock
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Mrgll

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He pointed out that the scaling was making ICC take like 3 seconds longer than normal

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went on a whole tyrade about it

tulip sun
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Ok?...

stiff vector
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just nod and wave

hollow dock
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I'm explaining what he was 'yelling' about weeks before it was released.

stiff vector
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as long as it is fact based yelling

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shrug

tulip sun
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I am not talking about his yelling

stiff vector
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Q&A should be exciting though! Can't wait.

tulip sun
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But yes it will

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There better be some good questions

hollow dock
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You know they cherry pick the best that dont spoil to much

gusty wolf
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Good question: i can haz big dino mount nao?

stiff vector
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seeing we already know a lot of what is going to happen in the new areas it's unlikely there will be any huge surprises

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but hey i'm watching anyways

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maybe there will be some good lore jokes

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or ion jokes

gusty wolf
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Giev dino.

stiff vector
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or they'll both be wearing a dinosaur costume

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🤷

gusty wolf
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😱

hollow dock
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We do but that's because we're in the spoiler chat

gusty wolf
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Pets dinos

stiff vector
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yeah the question are gp

hollow dock
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The majority of people out there dont.

stiff vector
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i know

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still watching though!

tulip sun
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I won't be home!!

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Keep me updated

hollow dock
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Just watch its vod later

zinc sandal
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When is the thing happening?

frigid umbra
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2 hours i think

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on warcraft twitch channel

terse patrol
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Three

zinc sandal
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Four

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Five

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Six

vast mirage
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its 3 hours

true matrix
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Seven?

hollow dock
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ten

zinc sandal
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Forty

true matrix
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eleventy

hollow dock
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oneity one

zinc sandal
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quatre-vingt-dix

hollow dock
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various old god slurps

zinc sandal
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That was French

hollow dock
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and my slurps where in eldritch tounge.

zinc sandal
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Kinky

ruby prawn
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When is the QnA out?

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Live?

zinc sandal
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What?

rich apex
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3 EST

hollow dock
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3pm EST, 12 PST.

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whatever taht is in mountain and central time

ruby prawn
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Today is Tuesday

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Right?

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Google tells me the QnA was at 10 in the morning

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10 AM is in the morning, right?

hollow dock
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10 AM is in the morning yes. but the scheduled time isnt until the afternoon

ruby prawn
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Ante

hollow dock
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so Im not sure why you're getting a different time

ruby prawn
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It's supposed to be in 3 hours?

hollow dock
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yes.

ruby prawn
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Google tells me 3 est is 10 am

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Instead of pm

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Or 22

hollow dock
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3pm EST is 10 am for you?

ruby prawn
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No

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It's 10 PM

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It's 22

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Currently it's 19

hollow dock
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SO where did the AM come into play? O.o

ruby prawn
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That's what I don't know

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I must report such a bug to google

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How long do QnA's usually take?

hollow dock
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an hour

polar mango
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20 minutes of that is Lore making anecdotes like "Oh yeah, I've played a shadow priest once." XD

ruby prawn
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I thought the chat on this server was gonna be always full due to the amount of people in it.

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I see the same people over and over again

hollow dock
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Oh nah. People just join discord servers and forget theyre even in them

ruby prawn
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For the give away?

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Maybe?

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Just look at the server list

hollow dock
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yup. Most people join the server for the giveaways or just aren't getting into this channel

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not everyone likes spoilers :v

polar mango
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Lot of people don't want spoiled.

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Lot of people are also playing the game too instead of chatting. 😉

ruby prawn
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How many yt's are on this discord

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I met MrGM and talked to him

hollow dock
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I dont think any are.

ruby prawn
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And another guy I never heard about

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Have you seen the unfinished cutscenes in the siege of lordaeron?

hollow dock
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Yes we have. been linked in here like 5 times now.

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theyre unfinished pieces of machinima and I really dont draw conclusions from them

ruby prawn
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I can't wait for the speeches

hollow dock
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I can wait for it to be finished

ruby prawn
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But they aren't very well made yet

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Like Womanduins armor clips through Saurfangs

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And the lightning is garbage

hollow dock
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Its almost like its an unfinished product from a not live alpha

ruby prawn
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Yeah

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True that

dense plover
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it wont look like that

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its going to be like the conclusion cutscenes from antorus

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and the silithus intro cutscene

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it specifically says that it will be replaced with an actual cutscene

hollow dock
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its the equivalent of a storyboard

tropic trail
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It is surprising I imagine there are a lot of people on the discord that don't talk

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Given its arguably the biggest wow fan site

polar mango
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Yeah it's called the layout phase. It comes between storyboarding and animation/lightning before composition polish.

hollow dock
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updated raptors

polar mango
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I would really like to see their workflow first hand.

tacit vine
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raptormasterrace for the horde!

scenic field
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When is the q&a

tropic trail
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Not sure unfortunately

terse patrol
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Two hours.

hollow dock
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in 2 hours

tropic trail
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Possibly preparing for alpha client ?

hollow dock
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Heres hoping they troll us

tropic trail
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You want them to troll? 😂

stiff vector
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preorder time boys

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y'all ready for this

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CE rewards are live

tropic trail
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Ce ?

hollow dock
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The reality is that preorders doesn't do anything but give us the mounts and pet at this time

stiff vector
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collectors edition

tropic trail
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Ah

rich apex
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And Allied Races, hopefully 😛

polar mango
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They might give us a date for allied races and say pre-orders get them then.

stiff vector
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yeah that's not behind an encryption key so we wouldnt really know when those would go live

polar mango
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Like pre-order today, get new races in a month!

strange falcon
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why thi

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that would cause

tropic trail
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I don't think allied races will be tied to CE it would just be pre orders as a whole

strange falcon
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a huge shitstorm

polar mango
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Because I highly doubt allied races are ready.

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And they want to start pre-orders asap.

strange falcon
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they are o.o

tropic trail
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And yeah sadly I think it would be at least a month till allied races

hollow dock
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they are far from ready

stiff vector
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define far from

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you've failed to in the past

hollow dock
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First off, we haven't even tested them.

stiff vector
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except for "they havent publicly been tested"

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that's not really an argument

tropic trail
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😊

hollow dock
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I mean. Anything I say you'll immediately shoot down despite prioer evidence.

tropic trail
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So many arguments

stiff vector
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i see more evidence on the contrary so yeah 😄

tropic trail
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More important things in life than being bitchy ppl

pine bluff
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Did I miss the Live interview Q&A Thing?

tropic trail
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Just be nice ^^

polar mango
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No, it's in 2 hours.

stiff vector
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i guess we'll see soon enough

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😄

hollow dock
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So how many things have they given us, besides the mythic final phases of end game bosses, that we havent tested?

polar mango
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I would be surprised to find them ready without any marketing but it isn't unheard of. Even their charity pets and stuff get more advanced notice.

stiff vector
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the stuff the wow secrets discord goes after hasn't been tested

tropic trail
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So what's everyone favourite allied race ?

stiff vector
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especially that long recent one had more content than any specific allied race will

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😄

hollow dock
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So is the allied races going to be a secret hidden unlock?

stiff vector
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i think it's going to be a surprise like those, yes

polar mango
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What.

tropic trail
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Meh I can't see that really

hollow dock
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So we wont be told how to get it and have to find it out ourselves through a good 30-40 minute long puzzle?

stiff vector
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i'm not saying its a secret, i'm just saying they'll come out by surprise in a few hours

tropic trail
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They will just be tied to the questlines

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I imagine

stiff vector
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yeah

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obviously

tropic trail
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Ah okie

polar mango
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"Pre-order today and guess where your content is." lol

tropic trail
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What's everyone's favourite allied race ??

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I'm torn

hollow dock
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So then why would they be like the hidden secrets that reward only a mount

polar mango
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I don't think that would be ideal for bringing back players to farm old-world content until BfA drops.

stiff vector
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because those haven't been tested on ptr/beta either

polar mango
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Which is what this pre-order business should be all about.

tropic trail
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Nightborne look so nice but void elfs also look cool and the Zandalari look sick

hollow dock
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But those are meant to be hidden away from us to find

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So are you saying allied races are like that?

stiff vector
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yeah, and they tested those internally

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i'm saying they also tested allied races internally

hollow dock
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they test everything internally.

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So why give us anything to test at all?

stiff vector
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there you go then

strange falcon
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@tropic trail i'm going to be using HM cuz moose,but my favorite are nightborne

polar mango
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Mostly performance/exploits.

stiff vector
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which i'm sure we'll see a bunch of if they go live in the next few hours/days

hollow dock
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The only things theyve tested internally solely is meant to be hidden from players.

tropic trail
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Cow riding a moose 😆😂

polar mango
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That would be so weird for them to just turn it on after the QA without any pre-marketing or anything.

stiff vector
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yeah and i'm saying this is meant to be hidden too, until pre-orders go live

hollow dock
#

But theyre not hidden like the puzzles or locked behind a mythic gate

#

as you said

stiff vector
#

yup

hollow dock
#

So which is it, are they meant to be hidden

#

or not

polar mango
#

Especially since the Q&A doesn't get a huge ton of people watching it.

stiff vector
#

you're trying to twist my argument

#

i'm saying they've been tested the same way the puzzles were tested; internally

#

you're saying everything requires public testing

hollow dock
#

I'm not. Are they meant to be hidden like the puzzles and mythic gating, or not?

#

I'm not

polar mango
#

We don't know.

stiff vector
#

neither, they're hidden behind pre-order

#

😄

hollow dock
#

I'm saying the only thing theyve locked internally is things meant to be hidden from players because they want no information going out on them

#

That means, no datamining, no advertising

polar mango
#

Given what we do know, it seems pretty obvious we hit the requirements and then a quest pops.

hollow dock
#

nothing.

polar mango
#

And then we go do it.

stiff vector
#

yeah, like a surprise of you getting allied races with pre-order

polar mango
#

What they should have had us do is sacrifice a 110 for it.

#

XD

#

Really stir up the crowd.

stiff vector
#

and the secrets were dataminable, nobody just cared

hollow dock
#

Which we've datamined out all the allied races but haven't fully ripped up everything.

stiff vector
#

the mini-games were in the client, the item requirements for that one item you had to wear were in the client

hollow dock
#

They weren't actually. People found the mount, kosumouth and the orbs but nothing was actually linked.

#

Same with the mythic phase of argus, gul'dan and xavius. None of that was revealed to players until it hit the live servers.

stiff vector
#

they were, i can literally show you the scripts that handle some of the puzzles right now

tropic trail
#

You all need to stop sounding so blunt and dry all the time

#

Really no need for the negativity

hollow dock
#

I hope you can literally show me, otherwise it'd be really hard to prove it.

tropic trail
#

Of all things in the world to talk about it doesn't warrant any 😂

stiff vector
#

sure, lemme grab that dbc 😄

tropic trail
#

Well I mean before I read you said to someone it's almost as if it's unfinished on an alpha or something like that which was really dry

#

And came across quite rude and the person was just like, yeah aha true that

stiff vector
#

7.3 Hidden Object - Mindcraft Game

tropic trail
#

Imagine they thought the same so awkwardly just said that

stiff vector
#

has been in since 7.3

tropic trail
#

Anyways

polar mango
#

I hope pre-orders do drop today just so we can possibly get that extra character slot.

hollow dock
#

Kosumouth was 7.0.

tropic trail
#

Hopefully

zinc sandal
#

I just want that sweet Ravasaur mount. Holy crabs.

stiff vector
tropic trail
#

U think they would drop preorders without allied races at the same time ?

#

What mounts that @zinc sandal

zinc sandal
stiff vector
rich apex
#

In before you have to do an extensive secret quest to unlock Allied Races

tropic trail
#

Oh nice mount

rich apex
#

Lucid Nightmare 2.0

terse patrol
#

noooo

hollow dock
#

that's for 7.3. Where's all the stuff prioer to 7.2 for the three secret puzzles?

terse patrol
#

I wouldnt mind another secret mount quest in BFA

stiff vector
#

so you're disregarding stuff for the 7.3 secret being dataminable?

hollow dock
#

Im not. I had asked about the Kosumouth, Lucid Nightmare and Worm specifically. =/ Its nice to see that the blingtron stuff is dataminable

rich apex
#

I wouldn't be surprised if they do another one

#

But hopefully not another maze

#

war flashbacks

hollow dock
#

These were very successful, so I'm not sure why they wouldnt do more

stiff vector
#

mindcraft/blingtron was lucid nightmare tho

#

i wouldn't know about kosu/worm but those probably had something too

#

didnt try mining those myself

hollow dock
#

And we could tell they were all linked up together?

stiff vector
#

we could tell the scripts were, but not many people have the knowledge too

#

just like how we know that allied races are likely tied to having a BfA license and are currently in the client

hollow dock
#

it only takes 1 to write up a Wowhead article.

#

Theyre not likely, they are flat out tied to owning BFA.

stiff vector
#

yeah, but wowhead wouldn't spoil that 😛

hollow dock
#

In which, if they were supposed to be hidden from us players, why would WoWhead spoil these off but nothing else?

stiff vector
#

because these aren't a secret hidden object that the players have to solve

#

just a different thing hidden behind a pre-order

#

i'm not saying they're the same thing, never did

#

just that they were tested the same.

hollow dock
#

But theyre not hidden behind anythign

stiff vector
#

locked away, hidden, required by

#

same thing in my book

#

they haven't officially announced it being tied to pre-order, so hidden is right imo

hollow dock
#

They haven't announced anything about the allied races other than we'd find them as we datamined legion.

stiff vector
#

yup, likely to have it be as much as a surprise as possible

hollow dock
#

Which again, doesn't make sense to me because they tell us its all in prep for BFA. So are they purposefully lying to us?

strange falcon
#

yes

stiff vector
#

they're still accurate in what they said

#

allied races being BfA content

#

you'll have to pre-order/own it before accessing it

#

whether or not it already being playable in 7.3.5

#

it's a nice twist on words that allows them to do ship allied races in 7.3.5 data and have them be BfA features

hollow dock
#

Content is normally labeled for a different expansion is hosted in or during that expansion.

stiff vector
#

sure, but still technically fits

#

normally isn't a requirement

#

now where's my bloody ability to purchase BfA, i have wanted that pet/mount since i found them in 7.2.whateveritwas

strange falcon
#

@stiff vector after q&a 😄

hollow dock
#

I thought they were datamined in 735 not 725

tropic trail
#

I haven't ever bought the versions with the extra stuffs

#

Just don't see the point really

#

What's the mount and pet for bfa?

hollow dock
#

I only bought the WoD one cuz that raven was beautiful

tropic trail
#

I did like that one actually

hollow dock
#

If you're horde you get a zandalari raptor

#

if you're alliance you get a kultirasian warhorse

#

and the pet is a little tortle

stiff vector
#

tortollan pls

tropic trail
#

Ali get a basic ass horse 😂

strange falcon
#

you honestly cant say

#

the ally preorder mount

#

is better

#

than the horde

#

cmon

hollow dock
#

Well.

#

Because i like dinos more

#

I have to say no

#

but this is not a basic horse

strange falcon
#

it's a horse with a lamp post on its ass

#

cmon now

tropic trail
#

Everyone is obsessed with the tortollan at first I hated them but they do look cute gotta say

stiff vector
#

i love the seabraid stallion

hollow dock
#

OUT OF MY JUNGLE

strange falcon
tropic trail
#

Hahaha

stiff vector
#

i've listened to its sounds on repeat a lot

tropic trail
#

The fuck

stiff vector
#

even though they're the same as paladin class mount

hollow dock
#

I play to much hearthstone

stiff vector
#

rehashed content much

tropic trail
#

That is such a stupid mouth

hollow dock
#

its the same modle but different texture

tropic trail
#

Mount*

hollow dock
#

All the mounts are stupid

strange falcon
#

it's like it's such a defective horse,it needs a lamp to keep it's ass warm

uncut vault
#

I'm wondering what those banners in OW are

hollow dock
#

you're somehow clinging to a rug on a jellyfish.

strange falcon
tropic trail
#

Ooo

uncut vault
#

The incel horse vs the chad raptor

tropic trail
#

Pretty but even still don't think it's worth the money

hollow dock
#

I like the raptor more just because its an HD raptor mount

clever ember
tropic trail
#

I'm sure you can get similar mounts in bfa

clever ember
#

Not sure how@legit this is

stiff vector
#

woop

#

seems pretty legit

hollow dock
#

Its not legit at all

stiff vector
#

venturebeat is an okay source

clever ember
#

It was updated 30 mins ago

stiff vector
#

they rehash press releases

hollow dock
#

And the QnA hasnt started

stiff vector
#

this likely was one but they posted too early

clever ember
#

Ion will probably confirm it

uncut vault
#

Looks like a prediction since we got all these data mined assets today

hollow dock
#

until it does

#

not legit

#

its not a prediction. Look at that language

#

"it WILL"

clever ember
#

Like I said. Not sure how legit. Just thought I’d share it.

stiff vector
#

i think venturebeat broke the embargo

#

rip them i guess

tropic trail
#

Thanks for the share ^^

#

@uncut vault what got data mined today sorry?

#

Forgot we get a boost as well not sure what class to use it on.

#

What's everyone's favourite class?

uncut vault
#

All these ui pics

hollow dock
#

Deathknight.

clever ember
#

I’m a hunter at heart. Have four of them 😁

#

Druid and Sham are tied for second

strange falcon
#

drood

uncut vault
#

Totally boosting my panda warrior so he can use his DK mog

hollow dock
#

Im saving my boost for my lightforged.

tulip torrent
#

is price clear for the new exp ?

#

dont boost allied races

vast mirage
#

yes

tulip torrent
#

you wont get the heritige armor

vast mirage
#

probably 45 euros for standard

hollow dock
#

While it isnt, its safe to say it'll be priced the same as every other expac

#

also

clever ember
#

You won’t get he heritage armor if you boost.

hollow dock
#

Dont care about the LF heritage armor

#

hence why Im boosting it

clever ember
#

You have to actually level to 110 to get it.

polar mango
#

I'll probably boost my Velf.

hollow dock
#

I know this

#

I dont care about it

tropic trail
#

Can't boost a velf

polar mango
#

Well not boost but race change.

hollow dock
#

You can boost all of em.

polar mango
#

You know what I mean.

hollow dock
#

You just wont get the transmog for em.

tropic trail
#

You can't! It's essential fro get velf armour for velfs!

clever ember
#

You won’t get it as a race Change either.

polar mango
#

I main Feral and Warlock and my lock is ugly boring woman human.

tropic trail
#

I want being literal when I said u can't ^^

hollow dock
#

My lock is a beautiful gnome temptress in teh clasical mageweave.

tropic trail
#

Also what's the ui stuff?

polar mango
#

38 meg patch pushed some UI stuff.

tropic trail
#

I saw on alpha footage the ui looks different but that's from days ago

polar mango
#

Looks mostly pre-order framework.

tropic trail
#

Oh

stiff vector
#

today's patch?

#

that had no pre-order stuff in it

tropic trail
#

Battlenet ui

stiff vector
#

that's been in for a while and encrypted

tropic trail
#

I thought u all meant In game ui

hollow dock
#

it added a string that enables it in the shop I thought.

polar mango
#

Nah, the stuff they are flashing around looks like the pre-order button for the main login.

stiff vector
#

yeah they just decrypted the content, rest of it is serverside

polar mango
#

Drip drip drip.

#

That being said, I am half tempted to level my Void Elf because there will be SO many players in old-world again.

#

It will be nice to run around with randoms. I enjoy that.

vast mirage
#

and having to wait 30 min

#

for respawns

polar mango
#

Nah.

#

5 minutes, tops. 😉

vast mirage
#

lol

tropic trail
#

I think alliance got ripped off with allied races

polar mango
#

I don't mind the waiting, I miss old-wow in the communal sense. Having fun without everyone calling you something racist.

tropic trail
#

In comparison to the horde anyways

hollow dock
#

We finally have high elves and we got better draenei

polar mango
#

We totally did.

hollow dock
#

All you guys got was some more crack addicts and mooses

polar mango
#

We got the same things we already have lol

hollow dock
#

so did they

tropic trail
#

LF for an allied race was shit

hollow dock
#

that's the point of allied races

polar mango
#

Nah, LF is poo.

tropic trail
#

Dark iron meh okay people wanted that

polar mango
#

I think Horde won out in the end on this one.

tropic trail
#

Void elfs are cool

autumn igloo
#

I’m actually kinda excited for the dark iron

hollow dock
#

Theres no winning. both sides got more of what we already have.

#

that's the whole point of allied races.

polar mango
#

I can say there is winning if I want. 😉

rich apex
#

Space Marine Draenei are the best, thank you very much

tropic trail
#

Horde definitely got nightborne everyone wanted that. Zandalari trolls are very unique and I feel like highmounten Tauren are meh

polar mango
#

I'm not sure what to think about 2 minute blink.

hollow dock
#

I never wanted nightborn

polar mango
#

Mages will have 3 blinks in a row now, which is cool.

hollow dock
#

Still hate them collectively as a race.

tropic trail
#

I think HT is silly because there's just not really any difference

polar mango
#

Warlock with blink for emergencies is kinda dope.

tropic trail
#

3 wow

#

Hate who?

polar mango
#

Although locks never really need to run.

hollow dock
#

Nightborn

tropic trail
#

Say nightborn and ur dead

#

That's it

hollow dock
#

nightborn

polar mango
#

lol

tropic trail
#

Watch your back....

autumn igloo
#

Has anyone already reserved names for your allied race toons? I have

tropic trail
#

Your getting ganked

#

I should have

polar mango
#

No one ever picks my names so I don't worry about it.

hollow dock
#

Im going back and editing them all to nightborn

polar mango
#

I go by Cloud + whatever I look at on my desk.

hollow dock
#

Gank me on my PVE server

tropic trail
#

I actually got the first arcanists name

#

Surprisingly

polar mango
#

Cloudlotion, Cloudpen, Cloudmousepad

#

Etc.

iron shell
#

Nightborn

hollow dock
#

Nightborn thalryssa?

tropic trail
#

I can't spell it but when I made it I checked it was right

#

Yeah

polar mango
#

My void elf will probably end up being called Cloudcoffee or something.

autumn igloo
#

I chose Victoire

hollow dock
#

I just use Des<class name here>

#

No one ever takes those :v

tropic trail
#

Anyone else spend ages picking names aha

autumn igloo
#

I got Talanjj for zandalari too

hollow dock
#

Nope.

autumn igloo
#

Talanji**

iron shell
#

I do

polar mango
#

If I was on an RP server, I totally would.

hollow dock
#

I dont and Im on an RP server

iron shell
#

Argent dawn eu rp

polar mango
#

I like using Cloud* prefix so people know who I am.

hollow dock
#

I just use TRP2 for my actual names :c

tropic trail
#

You must offend many people in the server then aha

hollow dock
#

Not really.

tropic trail
#

I imagine so if it's RO

polar mango
#

Assuming it isn't a stupid name I doubt anyone cares.

hollow dock
#

A lot of people in the RP realms choose normal toon names and use addons to change our names.

tropic trail
#

RP*

ruby prawn
#

What are you talking about

polar mango
#

Ah.

#

That's smart.

tropic trail
#

you can use addons to change your name ?

hollow dock
#

Like TRP2 is essnetially an entire forum biopic.

#

Lets you change your name, give you information on your character etc etc etc

polar mango
#

One of these days I'll spend a month on an RP server, dedicated to RPing.

hollow dock
#

Custom titles and all that

polar mango
#

Just for fun. Come up with a cool story.

tropic trail
#

That's cool

polar mango
#

Like D&D but without all the sweat.

hollow dock
#

but its only displayed to others who have TRP2

tropic trail
#

Cool none the less

strange falcon
#

just go on argent dawn's goldshire,for 10 mins

#

that's enough

tropic trail
#

I imagine I would have liked being in a RP realm

ruby prawn
#

You woudlnt

tropic trail
#

I have done that before...

#

Why?

hollow dock
#

Not really. The community is so much better than the shitty goldshire-esc areas.

ruby prawn
#

The people in Goldshire

#

Are...

strange falcon
ruby prawn
#

I can't find words to describe it

hollow dock
#

Jesus

tropic trail
#

Arw

hollow dock
#

thats a baby only a mother can love

zinc sandal
#

Wow Vris

#

You have no heart

hollow dock
#

That's a horrifying child to me.

polar mango
#

It's adorbs.

#

tropic trail
#

Although it needs to go to the orthodontist

hollow dock
#

I'll stick to my celestial cat.

zinc sandal
#

I would like to file a motion to expel Vris from this Discord server ipso facto.

tropic trail
#

Haha

polar mango
#

Does it evolve into Blastoid?

ruby prawn
#

Guys. I think I know what will happen with the new races in bfa

polar mango
#

doesn't know pokemon

ruby prawn
#

Instead of a pre-order

hollow dock
#

Is it like those charimanders?

ruby prawn
#

We will have access in the beta

#

And we will be able to only play them there

polar mango
#

That's stupid. If they do that.

ruby prawn
#

And everyone will have access to the beta

tropic trail
#

Sadly that may be true

zinc sandal
#

Tons of websites are saying pre-order will be available later today.

polar mango
#

You won't sell pre-orders that way.

hollow dock
#

Everyong having access to beta

#

won't fly

tropic trail
#

Don't think everyone will have beta

polar mango
#

They need to push pre-order goodies.

clever ember
#

No they won’t do that.

tropic trail
#

No for sure

polar mango
#

Yeah beta is closed, that would be silly.

uncut vault
#

MoP did that and it was a disaster

clever ember
#

They’ll release beta invite in waves like they usually do.

sullen dagger
#

what does the preorder include comared to deluxe ed?

strange falcon
#

the preorders- get acces into beta,was a total failure for mop

#

they wont do that agan

polar mango
#

Yeah and most games don't do well for that.

hollow dock
#

Indeed.

sullen dagger
#

the mounts are deluxe? or just preorder bonus?

polar mango
#

That's why you see 'open betas' all the time as marketing tools.

ruby prawn
#

What mounts

hollow dock
#

Deluxe is the collectors edition

stiff vector
#

i think all editions get access to allied races (whenever a site that doesn't break their embargo posts it)

sullen dagger
#

yeah

strange falcon
#

@sullen dagger not even deluxe,collectors only

hollow dock
#

the mounts are, and always have been, collectors editions

clever ember
#

The retail box will have all he digital stuff. A mousepad and an art book most likely.

ruby prawn
#

There is a deluxe version of wow?

polar mango
#

I'll pre-order and then grab my CE and then give my code to someone.

hollow dock
#

Yes. There is for each expansion.

polar mango
#

That's what I did last expansion.

ruby prawn
#

I have never seen any

#

What do they have?

tropic trail
#

How 😂

clever ember
#

The digital deluxe will just be all the digital items and instant access to them usually.

tropic trail
#

Mounts pets

hollow dock
#

Well BC, LK and Cata all had pets

tropic trail
#

Stuff for other games

polar mango
#

Deluxe is all the digital stuff, CE is book + dvd + mousepad.

tropic trail
#

Like cardback for hearthstone Heros stuff

zinc sandal
#

I wonder if pre-ordering will allow to skip the rep grinding

vast mirage
#

no

#

lol

terse patrol
#

no

vast mirage
#

thats so unfair

ruby prawn
#

But

hollow dock
#

Mop, WoD, Legion and now BFA all had mounts and pets. WoD, Legion and BFA will have delux rewards for other blizzard games

polar mango
#

Unless you collect the CE it's not worth double-dipping.

clever ember
#

Nope you still gotta do the grind to get the rewards.

vast mirage
#

tbh it doesnt take that long

ruby prawn
#

How much more does the deluxe cost

vast mirage
#

2 months max

polar mango
#

loves his art books though

#

2 months!?

vast mirage
#

yes

#

or 1

polar mango
#

To level a toon?

terse patrol
#

i wonder which rep we’ll need to grind for Dark Irons

vast mirage
#

no

#

rep

hollow dock
#

to get exaulted

polar mango
#

Oh rep haha

#

Ok sorry.

sullen dagger
#

20 dollars more

vast mirage
#

but with the new lvling

hollow dock
#

Its normally 15-20 dollars more.

vast mirage
#

it can be 1 month to lvl

sullen dagger
#

50 -> normal 70 -> collectors

polar mango
#

Yall see the stealth killed some legacy raid math?

sullen dagger
vast mirage
#

that has been linked before..

sullen dagger
#

thats what they said her

#

ye

hollow dock
#

Yea its not true yet

polar mango
#

Lot of folks complaining that they made changes to raid damage for older content.

sullen dagger
#

but quite accurate

hollow dock
#

In an hour we'll see if it was just an accidental release of the article

polar mango
#

People are finding it not as easy.

vast mirage
#

how is it accurate

clever ember
#

Digital will probably be around 70, RetailCE will probably be 90ush

vast mirage
#

lol

hollow dock
#

If its not true

#

then its not accurate

vast mirage
#

blizzard didnt write that

sullen dagger
#

well, i did some leveling and it's plain silly the amount of time i've spent in a dung

strange falcon
#

that's because

hollow dock
#

Yea how dare I spend more than 5 minutes in these dungeons

strange falcon
#

your entir group

#

was vanilla level noobs

polar mango
#

Hmmm.

sullen dagger
#

a 45 dung got us 40-50 minutes

strange falcon
#

that have no idea where they're going

hollow dock
#

Sounds like Vanilla tbh

polar mango
#

I guess if that is accurate, I'll be leveling a void elf today.

ruby prawn
#

Because dungeons are supposed to be difficult

polar mango
#

So much for getting work done.

vast mirage
#

who said tat

#

that

strange falcon
#

as vris said

vast mirage
#

since when are dungeons supossed to be difficult

#

why do we have raids

#

and mythic +'s

hollow dock
#

Mythic+ is a dungeon Jon

ruby prawn
#

Raids are boring just, for gesr

tropic trail
vast mirage
#

yes

#

but still

sullen dagger
#

it's more diffcult than a mithyc + dung r/n

strange falcon
#

once you dont steamroll everything,and all the bois in your group are legion only players

vast mirage
#

im talking about

hollow dock
#

All group content is for gear.

vast mirage
#

low lvl dungeons

strange falcon
#

that's when the fun starts

frigid umbra
#

another hour to go?

strange falcon
#

ya

terse patrol
#

One hour

hollow dock
#

Yup another hour and we're good

ruby prawn
#

57 minutes

#

Actually

hollow dock
#

that's an hour

vast mirage
#

not quite

clever ember
#

I’m not a fan of the new leveling system. Takes forever now. Ive already leveled over ten toons from lvl 1. I usually just want to blast through leveling. It’s cool for newbies not so much us vets. Unless you like reading the lore.

frigid umbra
#

~

ruby prawn
#

57 minutes = 60 minutes?

frigid umbra
#

ooo my.. i ended up un math land... whats with all the exact numbers

#

in*

zinc sandal
#

Ohpls

ruby prawn
#

Math land?

hollow dock
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Yes where you can only every be exact

frigid umbra
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its around an hour

ruby prawn
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They are time measurements

hollow dock
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so you beter put in seconds and milliseconds

frigid umbra
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people say an hour

clever ember
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56 mins till Q&A

hollow dock
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otherwise its not 54 minutes

ruby prawn
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You mean physics?

hollow dock
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56*

strange falcon
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@clever ember ""forever""" == 10 hours at most

frigid umbra
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math and physics are 2 dif fields

strange falcon
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or even less

ruby prawn
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Time is a measurement usually used in physics, not in math

frigid umbra
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lol this went off rails quickly :))

clever ember
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Yeah. But I have a three year old so I don’t get as much time to play. So yes it takes forever for me. @strange falcon

ruby prawn
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Time is not a measurement

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I misspelled

frigid umbra
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what is it?

tulip torrent
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4th dimension

ruby prawn
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Seconds and hours are a measurement

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Time is magic

frigid umbra
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well i did say hour... not time 😄

hollow dock
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Years, Months, weeks, days, hours, minutes, seconds, milliseconds.

dusky ginkgo
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Hello fair folks, would you know where the QA will happen/be published?

hollow dock
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If its not in that exact format its wrong

ruby prawn
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On the internet

hollow dock
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it'll be on twitch like the other QnA's Inay

frigid umbra
dusky ginkgo
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Yes thanks captain obvious
Real thank for Vris and Alexx

hollow dock
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in which, for the time being they will require you to have the reps right now for allied races

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but may change that in the future

vast mirage
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they lowered the price

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o.O

hollow dock
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yup its a sale

frigid umbra
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loool 10 for wow.. wtf.. it usually goes down to 5

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they ripping us off

vast mirage
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its not bad tho

frigid umbra
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:))

stiff vector
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its normal when the next pre-order comes online

sullen dagger
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well it include a month, so...

stiff vector
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i think they did it in the past too

sullen dagger
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

polar mango
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I'm gonna play some professor layton until Q&A and then roll me a void elf. 😉

frigid umbra
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3ds?

polar mango
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Yup.

vast mirage
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LOL

frigid umbra
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which one?

vast mirage
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confident formalcloud

polar mango
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I'm a bit behind, just picked up the Azran Legacy.

vast mirage
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inb4 pre order only next month

frigid umbra
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nice

vast mirage
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and no allied races

dusky ginkgo
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But, the QA will not like.. Release the races

vast mirage
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^

frigid umbra
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really need to go through the whole series myself

strange falcon
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@polar mango if i dont remember wrong you need to finish a small questline before u can create the allied race

dusky ginkgo
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It's just a QA

frigid umbra
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its really good

ruby prawn
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Cloud, I can sell you Club Penguin Herbert's revenge for DS if you wabt

polar mango
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lol, no.

hollow dock
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I dont believe they'll say it during the QnA.

polar mango
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AlexxCri: Yeah, I love them. The new one isn't a main-title but it looks good.

strange falcon
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yeah,if not,why are there a lot of "alliedraceunlockscenario" cutscenes

polar mango
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It's his daughter or something.

stiff vector
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you need to do the 110 quest to unlock, yes

frigid umbra
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assistent

polar mango
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Oh I HOPE there are some quests to do to unlock, yes.

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More content please. 😃

hollow dock
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there has to be

dusky ginkgo
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There is

stiff vector
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they said so in the above video i think

polar mango
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stiff vector
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i skipped through it but still

hollow dock
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I'm assuing you hadn't seen the datamining from a few months back?

polar mango
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I've been kinda spoiler free-ish.

clever ember
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There will be a quest line to unlock the allied races.

vast mirage
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btw.. just to clear things up

hollow dock
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Ah, then yea

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theres a whole scenario for each one

vast mirage
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i have a horde druid with alliance allied races rep exalted

polar mango
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Sweet. 😃

vast mirage
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can i get the alliance allied races?

hollow dock
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Yes

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But

dusky ginkgo
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Yes

hollow dock
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BUT

stiff vector
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allianced races

vast mirage
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i need a 110

sullen dagger
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BUTT BEWARE

frigid umbra
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no buts

vast mirage
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on the server?

hollow dock
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you need a 110 on that faction to do the recruitment

ruby prawn
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Guys

vast mirage
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what do you mean

clever ember
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Yeah of you have a 110, the achievements and the right rep level.

vast mirage
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on another char right

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im confused

hollow dock
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You need a 110 horde to recruit the highmountain and nightborne

dusky ginkgo
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The scénario must be done on the faction of the race

clever ember
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And BfA on your account.

vast mirage
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but i can do it

frigid umbra
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whatttt... i need to lvl my ally war from 100 to 110 for unlock ally faction alied races... nooooo

dusky ginkgo
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Réputation is account bound

vast mirage
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with an alliance that doesnt have rep

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right?

hollow dock
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yes

vast mirage
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oh ok

dusky ginkgo
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Yes

vast mirage
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nice

ruby prawn
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GUYS