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#beta-ptr-spoilers
clever ember
ruby prawn
:)
clever ember
😜
ruby prawn
Did they announce what they are gonna talk about?
Questions related to Bfa or current Legion Patch?
tulip torrent
there was a link to somewhere
eternal sentinel
This is the link https://www.twitch.tv/Warcraft
For question go on twitter with the #WarcraftQ&A
ruby prawn
Upright orcs are gonna come in bfa or with the pre-order?
Can someone ask that for me on Twitter? I am too lazy to make an acoount
tulip torrent
probably with exp
ruby prawn
I hope it's gonna be earlier. It's gonna be another reason to level a new character. And what about the new Warlock animations? Any update on that?
tulip torrent
such details are normally released with exp
if we get something with preorder its some of the allied races
but today's Q&A might give us some insight of that
ruby prawn
What's the time in the US rn?
clever ember
5:30 am est
elder otter
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hallow parrot
wow.
stiff vector
somewhat ironic coming from wowhead but alrighty then
tropic trail
ruby prawn
Did Blizzard reveal anything about Vol'jin other than his appearance as a ghost or loa?
final vault
Nothing in the game files right now 🤔
ruby prawn
@final vault what about Thrall
final vault
That’s a very good question! Let me check my db2 file to see if there’s a new NPC for him
There isn’t a new model though, but that doesn’t need to happen
strange falcon
Mrgm are u excited about today's Q&A?
ruby prawn
Where do you want to stream it on?
strange falcon
don't think so,u can stream yourself reacting to it tho
as long as its not fullscreen
final vault
I wanted to react
ruby prawn
Or why would you stream it in the first place
strange falcon
cuz BFA news
final vault
I guess so
strange falcon
ya,he's an exceptionally good boi
final vault
🤗
ruby prawn
The one that reviews private servers
final vault
Cool 😃
strange falcon
12 months ago your MrGM is evolving!!
final vault
Let me have a quick look
polar mango
Are racial mounts also locked behind the allied leveling?
strange falcon
no u get them at 20 afaik
polar mango
Hmm.
So in theory we could roll an allied and then pay for a race change on another toon and the only thing we're missing out on is the armor?
strange falcon
I think u could get the mount,if u racechanged
polar mango
That would be nice.
long wyvern
Was race change possible for allied races? I though I remember they said it wasn't possible
polar mango
Busy life != lazy.
strange falcon
m8,u already got a char at max lvl,just level the alt
polar mango
Yeah I don't know about that either, I assume they are not.
But then again, easy money. So who knows.
Maybe they will address that on the Q&A today.
strange falcon
because if u rolled an allied race,then racechanged,you would have 2 AR chars
but u would lose all willpower
to get armor
so
polar mango
I would rather not delete my 110 warlock in exchange for another one.
I don't care about the armor.
strange falcon
u roll an allied race,lvl it to 110,THEN race change ur warlock
polar mango
Pointless to me.
gusty wolf
I do want the heritage armor, but it can only be used by that specific race, which kinda defeats the purpose, imho.
strange falcon
u get an extra alt,shiny armor,and ur main is of the allied race
polar mango
Not sure I could be more clear about how I don't care. XD
final vault
no new thralls 😦
polar mango
I do however like the racials and the look.
strange falcon
I think down the line you will regret this decision,but do whatevs u want
high crag
The Heritage armors aren’t anything special in my opinion. There are better looking armors out there, and who has the time to level now adays anyways with the leveling revamp.
polar mango
I will do whatever I want, thanks. 😉
final vault
I’m assuming wowhead released the list of Islands maps? Idk if I’ve seen it anywhere
Either way. I have it
polar mango
Void Elf specifically don't have anything special to me, the purple wings look silly.
If it was the same color as the void swirls on the ground in Argus I would have a different opinion, but that specific 'candy purple' doesn't do it for me.
And that's coming from someone who looooves purple.
It would make sense though if they don't allow us to race change at first.
Push us through the old content.
strange falcon
@high crag you're saying that like leveling is a chore and takes an enormous amount of time more than before,as Taliesin sad,I'd rather go through a couple more hours of fun stuff,rather than 1 hour of excruciatingly boring stuff
polar mango
According to MMO champ if you use your 110 boost you get 2 of the color sets?
That's not a bad trade off.
strange falcon
also,you're an alliance main Ew,
no wonder you're going super edgy void elfs ugh
high crag
The leveling revamp is not for everyone.
polar mango
That purple lightforge armor is sick though.
strange falcon
I assume you're one of the forums ragers who's having a bad case of first world problems
polar mango
Why are you being an asshole to everyone?
polar mango
You're the only one being rude.
tropic trail
😦
polar mango
I spoiled the new music for myself... but it is good.
strange falcon
I may be being rude,but we have to get in the BFA mood,so I'm practicing
polar mango
I told myself I would go in blind but I can't help but consume it all. XD
tropic trail
same 😛
polar mango
😄
tropic trail
mint arch
ruby prawn
@final vault what about the boy king? Who do you think he is?
I believe it is Farondis or Baine
ruby prawn
I don't think it's Anduin
It could be, but we didn't interact with him that much
He didn't do anything almost
Just cried
final vault
Baine isn’t that young so I don’t think it’s him
ruby prawn
"boy" could mean something else, like inexperienced
polar mango
Kinda like in MoP how he was being led around by whats-his-name.
ruby prawn
Not exactly a child
polar mango
He seems very influenced by those around him.
ruby prawn
Warthion could be one, but he is no king
polar mango
Anduin is more like a bunch of other people's thoughts rather than his own.
Then again I don't think WoW lore goes that 'deep' and it's probably Anduin. lol.
ruby prawn
We know that we were given the first lie of the 3
ruby prawn
Are they gonna make a new night elf starting zone?
terse patrol
horde whinin about losing a shitty ruin
polar mango
Nah, just keeping it on fire.
terse patrol
alliance losing https://i.redd.it/ymuwpe5p33d01.jpg
tulip torrent
dont worry this is the smallest thing the alliance is about to lose
they gonna lose the WAR !
polar mango
I assume it's phased tech, like most of the expansion will be around the world.
ruby prawn
@tulip torrenthow do you know
polar mango
Horde don't belong here anyway, no matter who wins - they are the invaders.
tulip torrent
maybe the iron horde was invaders
terse patrol
All the Horde races except Tauren and Trolls are invaders. :p
tulip torrent
but our horde is azeroth born
ruby prawn
What if the humans are invaders
tulip torrent
so we are not invaders
terse patrol
Send All Orcs Back To Draenor.
ruby prawn
In a bad plot twist
polar mango
Yeah you are.
Horde can't take up the name and cause of their invading ancestors and be like "But that isn't us."
terse patrol
Build a wall around the Dark Portal.
terse patrol
Blood Elves are Alliance traitors.
ruby prawn
Actually
tulip torrent
they are not born in azeroth ,but a space goats
ruby prawn
No
tulip torrent
i ride one of those
ruby prawn
It's the opposite
terse patrol
nah, actually, they are traitors
ruby prawn
Alliance betrayed the High Elves
terse patrol
If you knew about the First and Second War.
polar mango
Draenei are refugees, that is a difference.
They aren't trying to murder the alliance.
ruby prawn
Didn't offer their help against Arthas
terse patrol
Elves didn’t bother helping in both, only Alleria did.
tulip torrent
they are invaders they clamed the place of land their ship crashed on
ruby prawn
That's why they joined the mighty Horde
polar mango
Elves are kinda stuck up though and do whatever they want.
ruby prawn
Because she doesn't know what happened
terse patrol
she does
tulip torrent
who cares about a puny elf, she is going to die
terse patrol
She literally goes to visit the Sunwell.
polar mango
She gonna swap with her sister.
tulip torrent
He is traitor to the Light
polar mango
The horde will lose another warchief though.
terse patrol
Hordies are just mad that the two OG Horde slayers are back.
polar mango
Who is next up?
tulip torrent
siding with someone from the shadow/void
terse patrol
Turalyon literally destroyed a Horde army with the Light in the Second War. :p
polar mango
Maybe Illidan comes back and leads the Horde because why not. 😛
tulip torrent
and still here we are the mighty horde standing our ground and kalimdor
terse patrol
We’ll drive the Horde out.
tulip torrent
nah he gonna lead the alliance after your queen anduin is dead
terse patrol
Kalimdor belongs to the Night Elves.
polar mango
Right now we won't, Horde is op.
tulip torrent
he is night elf after all
polar mango
Losing raiding guilds to horde racials.
terse patrol
The Alliance has the Vindicaar. 😉 @polar mango
polar mango
Yeah that... is weird.
terse patrol
orbital bombards Orgrimmar
polar mango
We have all this space tech now and we're just supposed to go back to magic rocks and stuff.
terse patrol
Lightforged are gunna smack y’all down.
polar mango
I'm glad we're getting back to old school though, I am not a huge fan of the space stuff.
tulip torrent
I agree
polar mango
It's neat but like... I play wow for orcs and wizards and what-not. XD
tulip torrent
i kinda wonder why they make almost all races standing up
ors and male trolls are going to stand up
its like shit just got serious lets stand up
polar mango
Animation rigging is probably easier on them.
Blizzard are kings of recycling so they like to build in templates.
tulip torrent
i wonder why in the first place they want to change the races
strange falcon
because hunchbacks are horrible for trasmog
polar mango
They are re-threading players through old-world-content with new content so they are updating accordingly.
I mean if you level right now some of the models are just absolutely terrible in contrast with everything else + modern resolutions.
Triangle critters and what-not.
tulip torrent
i want vr wow
tulip torrent
but the gamers will be most fit and healthy beings on the planet ^^
polar mango
If you tied exercise into loot systems every gamer would look like The Rock.
hollow dock
either that or they'd leave and play a game that doesn't require excercise because its not efficient
ruby prawn
The vindicaar won't be used against Orgrimmar
Jaina (I believe) tried once to drop a mana bomb on Orgrimmar
terse patrol
I think the Vindicaar will be used to defend Alliance cities
ruby prawn
She didn't have any help because there are orphanages in Orgrimmar and stuff
I don't think they will ever use it again
hollow dock
No she didnt
ruby prawn
Someone did
hollow dock
She tried to flood orgrimmar immediately after Theramore was mana bombed.
No one has tried to bomb Orgrimmar.
terse patrol
^
ruby prawn
She asked for help from the Council of Six
hollow dock
She was stopped when Kalec and Thrall convinced her that this wasn't her and that slaughtering the innocent makes her no better than Garrosh.
ruby prawn
They said they won't help her
hollow dock
She lightens up and stops the flood that would have destroyed orgrimmar.
ruby prawn
Because "there are orphanages in Orgrimmar"
terse patrol
wat
ruby prawn
I will search for it in the novels
hollow dock
Its a single scene from Tides of War.
hollow dock
When Jaina stops she shows disdain for Thrall and tells Kalec to essentially piss off before going off.
I dont think Anduin is even aware of what Jaina had nearly done.
hollow dock
Why? The only 3 people that know are Thrall, Kalec and Jaina.
No one else but us know and its only because we're the third party observers.
hollow dock
Wha
ruby prawn
???
hollow dock
She's been in KT this whole time, doesn't have command of the ship and hasn't lifted a finger against the horde or alliance
ruby prawn
Wasn't talking about Jaina alone
lavish pawn
Why. Leave my Orgrimmar alone. You already took my Undercity.
ruby prawn
I was saying that Anduin won't let anyone destroy Orgrimmar using the vindicaar
hollow dock
because the horde are right cunts.
ruby prawn
Or even attempt to destroy it
lavish pawn
He won't tho.....
ruby prawn
The Horde is severely overwhelmed anyway
hollow dock
Oh. then yea. most likely Velen and the rest won't allow such exploitation of the Vindicaar
lavish pawn
^
lavish pawn
Lmao
ruby prawn
Yeah. That's what I said or tried to
lavish pawn
Vindidar.
ruby prawn
The Horde is in a very bad position and always has been. The darkspear are very few in numbers, the tauren aren't exactly warriors
The orcs live in the worst zone ever
Having no resources
terse patrol
Vindicaar won’t be destroyed.
hollow dock
And had a Schism
ruby prawn
Almost none anwyay
hollow dock
so theres even less of them now
lavish pawn
Yeah.
ruby prawn
Vindicaar won't be destroyed, but won't be used
terse patrol
Every other Draenei vessel has crashed.
hollow dock
The only real large forces are of the Blood elves and Forsaken.
terse patrol
Doing it again would be dumb.
lavish pawn
Follow the routine. Lmao
hollow dock
I mean
steel venture
At least the horde gets an uncorrupt black dragon? I guess.
hollow dock
Tempest Keep never crashed
ruby prawn
"just like the simulations"
hollow dock
nor any of those other Naaru ships that are just floating off the coast of Netherstorm
digital tiger
Rekt
hollow dock
An uncorrupted black dragon that doesn't like being a dragon
ruby prawn
@steel venture warthion is in the alliance. Ebonhorn is nothing new
terse patrol
idk what’s going on with Tempest Keep. I think it’ll be used again to fight the Void, but who knows when
hollow dock
Wrathion isn't in the alliance.
He leans and supports it, but is still very neutral.
open scarab
wrathion does whatever he wants, but for now he is "ally" to alliance
hollow dock
If he does support anything in this war
ruby prawn
(wom)anduin
hollow dock
it'll be both sides to see who wins
hollow dock
Ebonhorn isn't muhc of a dragon.
ruby prawn
We don't know yet
hollow dock
He's been a tauren spiritwalker for the past ten thousand or so years.
The mans not much of a dragon
ruby prawn
Ebonhorn: the Force Unleashed
steel venture
Nothing said he doesn't like being a dragon. He's a black dragon so he kind of has to disguise.
Wrathion has been removed.
dense plover
Pretty sure ebonhorn hasn’t been around for 10k years
ruby prawn
Wrsthion hasn't been removed
ruby prawn
He just appeared again in 7.3.5
hollow dock
He was born shortly after Deathwing was beaten off Highmountain
so yes he was around for about ten thousand
dense plover
Yeah
steel venture
Blizz said wrathion will get nothing in bfa.
worthy minnow
when
dense plover
Do we have a date for when deathwing was imprisoned?
worthy minnow
;o
ruby prawn
Source?
ruby prawn
Ebonhorn isn't his jailor
hollow dock
Because he was never actually imprisoned
Him going to Deepholm was due to the efforts of the alliance and the dragonflights foiling him in the Highlands.
steel venture
Oneof the devs. Can't pull up the twitter because my phones bein ass.
dense plover
Huh
open scarab
jsut for lulz
hollow dock
yes.
ruby prawn
Didn't know that
dense plover
Yeah because they probably wanted it to be a surprise
hollow dock
Just like his appearance in Highmountain was removed and replaced with Ebonhorn
dense plover
Or build the story up
Or change the story
I wouldn’t be surprised if he maybe is involved in the dark iron story
dense plover
It’s the only relevant thing I could see him doing
hollow dock
Officially the only appearance we have is him in the Chromie scenario
hollow dock
and thats in the future
dense plover
Alliance has wrathion maybe
ruby prawn
I think Blizzard hates Wrathion
hollow dock
again, I really doubt they'd utalise Ebonhorn as the ancient wyrm he is
Nah they dont
he just hasn't fit properly into anything theyre planning
ruby prawn
Just like they hate Mcree in OW
dense plover
I think they don’t know what to do with him
ruby prawn
It's the same path
hollow dock
Oh yea? Is that why Mcree is so very opressive?
dense plover
and unrelated, but Mccree is in a great place in the meta
dense plover
^
ruby prawn
Who is med'an
ruby prawn
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20758846799
Med'an next expansion? - World of Warcraft Forums - Battle.net
deep frigate
He didn't get mentioned in the Chronicles even though it covered Medivh's entire life, including Garona's involvement
dense plover
And we haven’t heard of him in chronicles
hollow dock
He is a human-Draenei-Orc hybrid that can weild the Light, cast magic, and call upon the elements.
Med'an is officially not canon.
dense plover
Yeah He doesn’t exist anymore
deep frigate
Also the council of Tirisfal was retconned to not having appointed a new Guardian, so yeah
tulip sun
Ebonhorn is at least making a small appearance(even involving the old gods) with the Highmountain
I would love to see a black dragon battle though o.O
Ebonhorn would win
dense plover
Wouldn’t happen
hollow dock
Ebonhorn would lose.
tulip sun
Ebonhorn has and will fight
hollow dock
He hasn't fought like a dragon his whole life. Wrathion has killed a black dragon on his own and has the powers of Ra-den in him
ruby prawn
They are the sons of deathwing
tulip sun
He fights the old god leader in Highmountain
dense plover
Unless you are deathwing and are insane
ruby prawn
They are evil
dense plover
No they arent
hollow dock
Black dragons in general aren't evil
dense plover
Deathwing was corrupt
hollow dock
The reason so many of them were was because of Deathwing.
tulip sun
Ebonhorn is defiantly not evil
hollow dock
Wrathion and Ebonhorn were cleansed from the corruption of the old gods that made them crazy
dense plover
Wrathion was ubcorrupted as well
steel venture
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XKy6WDwqDsY
Ah it wasn' on twitter.
heres the Wrathion thing
dense plover
What’s the specific here?
hollow dock
Ah Alexa Wasabi
steel venture
... thanks timeatamp for not saving
hollow dock
yea timestamps on mobile suck
ruby prawn
I believe Magatha will do something crazy in bfa
tulip sun
I kinda liked her showing up in the shaman class hall
hollow dock
Just tell us the timestamp to skip towards
steel venture
They stated no plans for Wrathion atm tho
ruby prawn
@tulip suni kinda hated her
tulip sun
I mean, I hate her for what she did for the tauren
hollow dock
Hate her, love her, you need her.
dense plover
Anything is possible. When they are doing character story arcs, they have to devote a lot of time into incorporating them into the story as to not make them just seem like a ‘token’. They don’t want to treat their characters like that. They have talked about plans for Wrathion for various other things, but currently nothing is planned for BfA.
tulip sun
P.S. Where is Jevan??
hollow dock
Yea. They could also have come up with a plan for him right after the interview.
dense plover
Had they brought on Christie golden before blizzcon?
dense plover
I wonder if she will use him
hollow dock
If she does it has to berun by blizzard before release.
dense plover
I imagine that if he is going to show up, either they don’t have plans yet, or they want it to remain a secret
tulip sun
It seems like the story will improve with Christie's help, especially seeing at the epilogue cinematics
dense plover
Very much yes
dense plover
People have been saying that the cinematics hinted at in the alpha are the same writing, but they clearly aren’t finished, and are missing a lot of between character interactions that golden clearly knows how to use
tulip sun
I really hope she just uses more diverse characters.
dense plover
I think she will
tulip sun
Like, baine and geblin I see 😛
dense plover
We saw Shaw in a cinematic for alliance
tulip sun
and him
tulip sun
Patch is in Zandalar
hollow dock
She made and used a gnome
dense plover
And for horde we saw Baine, saurfang, and and gallywix
tulip sun
I never thought patch would be involved in stuff, especially a cinematic
Gallywix at the battle? Or just in general, more.
tulip sun
True
hollow dock
Until the legion epilogue
dense plover
Exactly
hollow dock
Where baine shows off his wit
tulip sun
Gallywix literally has done nothing
hollow dock
except fund the war machine that is the horde
dense plover
And saurfang remembers his history
hollow dock
He's the CEO
dense plover
Yeah
hollow dock
when was the last time you saw a CEO lift a finger?
tulip sun
Uhhh
I read a book, or an expert
Where in an alternate thing
He went hand to hand with garrosh, defending Azshara
dense plover
He designs and produces the weapons, specifically the siege weapons
tulip sun
I think he has it in him
dense plover
In the stormheim intro, the canons on the ships are credited to the goblins
hollow dock
That's how war works Saeris.
tulip sun
Has no one heard of this book before?
ruby prawn
They are not cannons
tulip sun
With Gallywix fighting Garrosh?
ruby prawn
They are catapulfs
dim flower
“Sure, azurite is the planets blood, but we should take it anyways”
ruby prawn
No
hollow dock
Gallywix doesn't care. He's a capitalist.
ruby prawn
Gallywix against Garrosh is new to me
dense plover
Yeah you crazy
tulip sun
It was to me too
hollow dock
He capitalises on all ways to make more money
hollow dock
Keeps even more for himself
dim flower
I feel offended for supporting capitalism now D:
hollow dock
Its just a system that wants to make as much money as possible
dense plover
Generally better than communism since communism doesn’t work
hollow dock
That whole debate is better for another channel
dense plover
^
dim flower
We need one
hollow dock
Offtopic I bet is the channel to have it. I won't as I've had it to death with my family.
dim flower
What’s the Alliance’s
dense plover
And he has been consistently useful
true matrix
@hollow dock why did you ping me at four in the morning to tell me vereesa is a bad parent
hollow dock
Because I wanted to see that picture you have of her.
dim flower
Don’t think they have one...that’s why they live in an actual castle I suppose
dense plover
Castles are expensive
hollow dock
The alliance is feudalism I think.
true matrix
oh! give me a moment
dense plover
Yeah I guess they tax everyone
tulip sun
This is from gamepedia
However, the two were treated to a vision of the future this would lead to: Gallywix would refuse to use the scroll, electing to hide the weapon instead. Rumours of Gallywix keeping the scroll for himself would ripple through the land, and Garrosh, branding the trade prince a traitor, would invade Azshara and assault Jastor's palace in a swathe of destruction. Gallywix himself would don his spider-tank and protect the scroll by challenging Garrosh directly, though would lose the battle after putting up a surprisingly passionate fight; on the cusp of defeat, he would eject himself from the tank and dive into Garrosh, grabbing the orc's tusks and smashing his forehead into Garrosh's face, like the street fighter Jastor had once been.[5]
tulip sun
Still, if he would have takent he scroll, it WOULD have.
I think your missing that part
Gallywix can fight
hollow dock
Could doens't mean will or has
true matrix
dim flower
He doesn’t need to
dense plover
He can pay others to do it for him
hollow dock
Yes there it is!
dim flower
But he would if he had to
dense plover
So would anyone
dim flower
But I think that’s everyone
tulip sun
I am just saying, if it comes down to it, he will defend his stuff.
hollow dock
ty mei
dim flower
Yeah
tulip sun
I was just really surprised by that
dense plover
Anyone would defend themselves
tulip sun
I wanna see it in a cinematic
dense plover
Even a fat slimeball
tulip sun
I never expected a chubby little guy like that
dense plover
It won’t be in a cinematic
dim flower
FoR tHe GnOmEs
tulip sun
Obviously
dense plover
They want him to be relevant
tulip sun
I just mean it would be neat
hollow dock
Anways
dense plover
I’m curious what is going on with kezan
hollow dock
the alliance operates on recruiting independant contractors to build for them
dense plover
Because I’m pretty sure it’s an alliance dungeon
tulip sun
We are reclaiming it, taking it away from the venture company
terse patrol
anyone thinking gallywix is loyal to the horde
dim flower
I think Kezan is a raid
dense plover
Where does the alliance get the same amount of money as the horde though?
hollow dock
The hierarcy relies on the King of Stormwind.
terse patrol
😂😂😂😂
dim flower
If I’m not mistaken
dense plover
Kezan is a dungeob
dim flower
Could just be a dungeon
hollow dock
I would imagine taxes.
dense plover
Not a raid
dim flower
110 dungeon?
dense plover
Don’t know
tulip sun
It is not an alliance dungeon
dim flower
120*
dense plover
That’s not specific on ptr
hollow dock
110+ to 120
dense plover
Alpha
tulip sun
I feel like it will be oriented, but alliance can do it.
dense plover
Sorry
tulip sun
The big boss will be the venture company trade prince or whatever
dense plover
Alliance can do horde dungeons post 120
tulip sun
Gallywix should be a large part of that
hollow dock
Actually no, the noblehouses of Stormwind make the money that Stormwind tosses around.
dim flower
And vice versa
dense plover
and vice versa
dense plover
We don’t know
dim flower
Well it’s not on Kul’tiras
dense plover
We were not given level ranges for the new dungeons
And it’s definitely a horde story
hollow dock
Cuz when they had to rebuild they employed the Stone Masons and the nobles refused to pay because of Onyxia
dense plover
Horde goes in to get another azerite mine
dim flower
Well it won’t be on Zandalar either
dense plover
But that doesn’t mean it has to be 120
hollow dock
it could be scaling
dim flower
True but I doubt it wouldn’t
dense plover
the portal won’t be on kezan
We aren’t physically going back there outside of the dungeon
dim flower
Leveling Horde will probably focus on the Zandalari mostly
dense plover
There’s 3 zones
dim flower
And then 120 will focus on Azurite
dense plover
And leveling will also focus on the conflict
dim flower
Which is the main thing in Kezan
dense plover
Getting azerite is part of the conflict
It could certainly be max level
But I don’t think we will be limited to one dungeon per zone like normal
dim flower
Perhaps...
dense plover
Each one will probably have 2
dim flower
But I doubt Kezan would be in any of them tbh
dense plover
Otherwise there are far fewer leveling dungeons
dim flower
Seems unlikely
dim flower
Well yeah but
dense plover
You need it for the heart of Azeroth
And the whole reason we are in zandalar is to get a navy from the trolls
To fight more
dim flower
Something tells me going back to Kezan wouldn’t tie in with the new explorative feel leveling in Zandalar
Who says that navy won’t get us to Kezan?
And that we get it at 120?
dense plover
They aren’t changing the leveling type
dense plover
I don’t know where you are getting all these ideas about what they are doing with the game
dim flower
No, it’s just speculation
dense plover
We saw Nazmir in the demo
dim flower
No real facts, I’m just sorta assuming things
dense plover
Questing and storytelling is just like legion
dim flower
I never said it wouldn’t be like Legion
hollow dock
The thing is that peace bases all their stuff on the past experiences that blizzard has had on the game.
strange falcon
also 90% of the new cool stuff is on zandalar,I wonder how many alliance dogs will go horde,
dense plover
Side dungeons that are relevant to the greater story weren’t in legion at all
So we have no context
dim flower
?
dense plover
We haven’t had a tester faction story since mists
Greater
Greater as in spanning the expansion, not just a zone
hollow dock
In which for Legion, everything had a dungeon to end a questline and everything else was relegated to 105+. Getting a new Azerite mine feels like the opening of something and getting it back. the big pay off.
dim flower
Well based off how they executed Legion dungeons and how most zone-unrelated dungeons were 120, I’m guessing that it’s 120
110*
dense plover
We had 2 unrelated dungeons
They were barely related to the story
Kezan is not barely related
hollow dock
Vault and the dalaran one
Those are the two that come to mind in terms of barely related
dense plover
It’s azerite, the goblin homeland, and it’s gallywix
strange falcon
vault was kinda related tho
dense plover
Gallywix doesn’t wait
strange falcon
cuz illidan
hollow dock
Going back into the vault wasnt
dim flower
Whatevs maybe I’m wrong maybe I’m right
Still feel like Kezan will be the way I imagine it though
hollow dock
We just dont see it that way is all.
dim flower
I just see us doing zone related shit up till 120 and then everything else unlocking
dim flower
Well shit my guy
dense plover
It’s in a blue post from when they announced the dungeons
The other 4 horde ones are leveling
And then there are four for alliance leveling
dim flower
Welp I guess there’s your answer then
dense plover
And siege of Boralus is max level alliance
And you get the other factions dungeons at max level
I’m curious if there will be max level story in the other factions zones
Because they have horde flight paths in Kul Tiras
And alliance flight paths on zandalar
dim flower
That’ll be interesting
I suppose a conquest chain into the opposite faction’s island?
Seems cool
dense plover
I dont know
Maybe the flight paths are just there for dungeon and world quest acess
I do know that there is a large alliance ship in voldun
dim flower
Perhaps it’s just for convenience
Would be cool for the Suramar of BFA to be like that though
hybrid wing
did the BfA page always have that Buy Legion Now button?
gusty wolf
Why would we have a Suramar-like in BfA?
terse patrol
Inb4 there’s a meme quest where Vulpera sneak onto the Alliance ship because they look cute, then proceed to kill everyone.
dim flower
Perfect assassin-like monsters now that you think about it
They’re small, adorable, and if they get caught they can pretend to be a fox
Or whatever
dim flower
Shhh assassins
hollow dock
and then slaughter everyone aboard.
gusty wolf
Brontosaurs man, brontosaurs.
dim flower
I’m honestly not surprised it’s becoming a mount, gonna pick that shit up
dim flower
Awe
dense plover
Still the biggest mount in he game by a long shot
gusty wolf
Don't care about the name as long as it's too big to use in cities, lol.
dense plover
It’ll work on roads
inner aurora
Are there any medium-sized mounts coming up?
dense plover
Not in most tunnels probably
dim flower
Who’s ready to terrorize some more RPers? Get your Ganon toys ready.
dense plover
Plenty
inner aurora
Or even small ones?
dense plover
There’s a big page of mounts on wowhead
Small mounts don’t worj
Because a small creature can ride a bigger mount
But a big creature can’t ride a smaller one
dim flower
Aren’t we getting a dog mount or something
gusty wolf
Also, and the ability to disable pvp. Happy hunter is happy.
terse patrol
ah, always a joy, looking back on all the lovely behavior of pvpers
dim flower
Disable? As a hunter?
inner aurora
Duh. I'm fine with my human not riding anything meant for gnomes.
terse patrol
Reminds me of when people were having a funeral for a player in Ashenvale
inner aurora
But nooo, we have to have everything for everyione (grumbles)
hollow dock
We're getting hyenas and theyre good boys
terse patrol
and Hordies pvped them
gusty wolf
I want to do my shit outdoors undisturbed, thanks.
dim flower
Hunters and pvp are /click noice
But honestly that event was disgusting
And dishonorable
terse patrol
Well, Horde are dishonorable scum. 😉
gusty wolf
Funny how horde says the same about alliance.
terse patrol
Sylvanas losing, so she uses plague. kills prisoners, raises them as undead.
base king anduin spares horde troops
dim flower
None of us supports that lol
hollow dock
base king anduin heals injured horde troops
terse patrol
“b-but alliance are dishonor!!!”
gusty wolf
We should have killed him back in Nagrand.
dim flower
^^^
terse patrol
hordie clutches his sylvanas plushie
hollow dock
The thing is
dim flower
Undead is best race
dim flower
Yeah
dim flower
He was still ehhhh but
terse patrol
thrall did a lot of dumb shit in cata so
gusty wolf
He was a bit of a jerk in Northrend, so no.
dim flower
There was some modern Garrosh in Northrend
terse patrol
seriously though
deep frigate
Boss Mida needs to become the new Trade Prince
true matrix
sassy hardwrench tho
terse patrol
Who the hell leaves the guy who enslaved his own people in charge, despite him saying “I pwomise I won’t do bad things again!”
deep frigate
Maybe Gallywix getting any amount of new screentime is foreshadowing he's about to die
hollow dock
does tha tmean anduins gonna die
dense plover
Treating one honorable hero with respect does not mean that the alliance are the good guys
Horde believes in honor too
Mostly
Also, the stuff at lordaeron isn’t plague
It’s blight
It’s essentially just death spray
true matrix
"honor and glory"
terse patrol
I honestly think Gallywix is going to be indirectly behind Teldrassil’s burning, and that he started the war in order to make fat stacks off of selling Azerite weaponry.
dense plover
Kills the living and the dead
dim flower
Thrall’s even done dishonorable stuff at this point...
dense plover
Equivalent to a flamethrower
terse patrol
When the Horde and Alliance finds out, we kill him in a raid.
hollow dock
made that horrid mess over in Southshore
dim flower
Why are we using blight again?
dim flower
Fair enough
dense plover
We need to retreat
terse patrol
Gotta act with dishonor just to win.
deep frigate
hey wanna hear the worst ship? Gallyvanas
true matrix
hHHERRRK
dense plover
Slow the retreat and save lives of the horde
gusty wolf
Do we know what did lead to the assault in Undercity?
terse patrol
@gusty wolf Teldrassil.
dense plover
Burning of teldrassil leads to undefcity attack
hollow dock
and this
dense plover
But we don’t know why the tree is burned
dim flower
Maybe the significance of Lordaeron
hollow dock
is to pick a ship even worse still
gusty wolf
And who and why burned the freakin tree?
dim flower
Malfurion and his matches
hollow dock
Tyravanas.
dim flower
God damn it Malfurion
dense plover
Darnassus is not important
There’s not any reason for the horde to attack darnassus
hollow dock
No one knows who or why Miguex
dense plover
And it isn’t like Sylvanas to attack it
true matrix
dim flower
Why not attack the Exodar
gusty wolf
So, it's up to speculation.
hollow dock
Because blizzard refuses to touch Exodar and SIlvermoon
dim flower
Wasn’t that her plan
hollow dock
Her planw as to attack stormwind
terse patrol
Sylvanas’ plan was to surprise attack Stormwind after some time of prep work. Teldrassil wasn’t the plan.
hollow dock
that's it
dense plover
Yeah
dim flower
So who did Teldy...
hollow dock
No one knows.
dense plover
Is it the alliance?
hollow dock
My bets are on a third party doing it.
dense plover
Is it a crazy person?
dim flower
And what happens to Darkshore and Ashenvale? We just cut off their source of troops
Are they Horde dominated too?
dense plover
Is it a wrong place wrong time coincidence?
hollow dock
All of Kalmindor goes to the horde
terse patrol
I think SI:7 and Gallywix are working together.
hollow dock
and all of the eastern kingdoms goes alliance
dim flower
Wonder what happens in the contested zones then
deep frigate
Darkshore still has port connection to Alliance
hollow dock
nothing
dim flower
That’s dumb
hollow dock
Nothing actually happens
dense plover
I don’t know if that’s true in BfA
hollow dock
Lore wise its all horde and alliance
dense plover
We don’t know if boats and zeppelins are changing
deep frigate
I guess it's more convenient for leveling and traveling through your own faction zones but...
hollow dock
but the zones are largly unchanged. except tirisfal and teldrassil
dense plover
Alliance will have a war front at theramorr
dim flower
Well yeah but you can kill of their remaining forces and realistically own the entire continent without any sort of opposition
hollow dock
The zones dont change for anyone leveling Mocha
terse patrol
Leveling content isnt changing.
hollow dock
All the changes to Darnassus and Undercity are put in at 110
terse patrol
The world changes at 110
dense plover
They may tweak the others at 110 possibly
Maybe just throw in some banners and war machines
dim flower
Would be cool if they changed the leveling with it
dense plover
No
dim flower
But
dense plover
Story doesn’t work like that
dim flower
That’s less time in other content
hollow dock
It would be cool
dense plover
If it happened while leveling it would be confusing as hell
terse patrol
Ah, yes, the Nightborne hero who helped slay Deathwing. ;)))
dense plover
Forwarded backward forward alternate dimension back to slightly before the present to the present
It’s not that bad right jow
dim flower
How do you work on the undead campaign if Undercity is already taken over
gusty wolf
You mean the Pandaren hero who helped slay the Lich King?
foggy flint
You have to remember the entire timeline has been altered at this point
hollow dock
Ah! Everyone remembers those lightforged in the twilight highlands fighting off the Dragonmaw Orcs
dense plover
pandaren and allied races are the ones with the most problems story wise
hollow dock
or those Highmountain tauren that invaded alongside garrosh
foggy flint
So it’s one of those “anything” can happen situations
dense plover
Deathknights and demon hunters are now in the both in great places story wise
gusty wolf
Gotta love them Death Knigths who fought Illidan at the Black Temple.
hollow dock
Everyone remembers the void elves that fought alongside Jaina to take the Focusing Iris out of theramore
dense plover
Deathknights can go straight to wrath now
dim flower
There was a DK in BT
foggy flint
Or the Demon Hunters (with time walking)
dense plover
And demon hunters start in legion
hollow dock
But he wasn't our DK Saeris
dim flower
True
foggy flint
Yes but it’s all the same concept
dense plover
It’s we need you in the past to fix suff
dim flower
Well yeah but instances are it’s own thing
hollow dock
While you dont level in there with the DH
dense plover
It makes sense for you to be new in their
foggy flint
You think that Illidian understands why he’s facing off with his own army?
hollow dock
you can still go back and quest
vapid basin
CUCK
dim flower
How the fuck do you kill Aggramar 6 times for example
dense plover
Not everything makes sense
hollow dock
SO yea everyone remembers those DEMON HUNTERS who fought AGAINST the illidari
dense plover
But the purpose behind the battle for Azeroth changes is to make the world feel like it is alive and has changes
gusty wolf
Everyone remembers the role Draenei had in defeating Kel'thuzad in Naxxramas. (Vanilla).
dim flower
So just saying, it’d be cool if the world changed with the following expansion
hollow dock
Well. no that doesnt work Miguex
dense plover
If you make all those changes default, than there is no change
dim flower
Just a little bit more
dense plover
It just is
hollow dock
Oh wait no
vapid basin
what do u guys think of cuck?
hollow dock
Naxx was updated to level 70 in TBC wasnt it?
gusty wolf
Fine, C'thun then.
dim flower
No?
dense plover
I think the idea of them changing individual zones slowly over time is a great diea
Silithus has been massively improved by the giant sword
hollow dock
I remember seeing a level 70 corrupted ashbringer
dense plover
Silithus is fucking awful
dim flower
Best zone
dense plover
That’s factually false
dim flower
I recommend it to everyone leveling
dense plover
Ungoro is literally better
hollow dock
I actually enjoyed leveling in silithus :v
dim flower
Silithus is so bad
dense plover
Yeah so you can leave
true matrix
there's nothing to do in silithus. there's like. five whole quest
terse patrol
Only reason to go to Silithus is to mog farm during Call of the Scarab.
dim flower
Ye, I’m just memeing
terse patrol
Thats it
dim flower
Silithus is literally bad
dense plover
It’s so bad that it wasn’t affected by the cataclysm. Even deathwing didn’t want to go there
dim flower
Lol
hollow dock
Theres a whole quest chain involved with foiling the Twilight's Hammer and finding out more about them.
gusty wolf
Nothing good has ever come out of Silithus.
dim flower
He was controlled by the Old Gods
hollow dock
Learning about the Silithid, the war of the shifting sands
dense plover
Silithus is so bad, the Qiraji have been posting ads looking for someone to buy it so they can move
dim flower
C’thun was like “boy if you dare lay a finger on my home’
hollow dock
;3; I found the zone really fun and expansive on things otherwise untouched
dim flower
I liked grinding there on classic servers...
dense plover
Silithus is so bad, goblins thought about building a city, took one look and then decided that even though the other coast is further from buisiness, it’s better than silithus
dim flower
At least it had a raid and a legendary quest
I’ll give it that much
Silithus pre-AQ was even worse lol
dense plover
Silithus is so bad, that when cthun said “your friends will abandon you” he was just talking about the consequences of staying there
dim flower
loool
Roasting Silithus into the fucking ground
Silithus is so bad, it made a dragon that wasn’t a green dragon fall asleep in it.
dense plover
Silithus is so bad, Sargeras had to nuke it from orbit
There’s no worse zone in the game
hollow dock
stop roasting one of my favorite zones ;3;
dim flower
There is Tol Barad
dense plover
And this is a game where the first zone in TBC is brought to you by the color red
hollow dock
hellfires double the size of Silithus and twice as empty
dim flower
Love Shadowmoon Valley though
dense plover
It’s too big
Very big but nothing in it
It’s the only TBC zone with that problem
It probably didn’t have it when people were doing PvP and it was part of current content
dense plover
It was designed around being current content, it wasn’t built to last
And that is it’s biggest flaw
dim flower
Even though it did...
dense plover
Thank god we can skip it now
dim flower
I see more wpvp in hellfire than anywhere else
dim flower
Howling fjord is pretty hot
hollow dock
I'd rather put up with Hellfire