#beta-ptr-spoilers

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stillwater tortured them

hollow dock
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Except for Hillsbrad and Gilnaes.

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and left them mindless when raised

hollow dock
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And she didn't even really give a choice in the Plaguelands during the Battle for Andorhal

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I still think its dumb that blizz plot convenienced all those valkyr there

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then never acted on sylvanas taking andorhal

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They literally made one of the prime valkyr appear

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just to kill her off

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and show the forsaken isn't afraid to resurrect alliance farmers they kill

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Ive always been a bit fuzzy on it, but sylvanas' main valkyr can create lesser valkyr, right?

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or were the dozens in andorhal just other scourge ones that joined her

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Yes.

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the Lesser valkyr resurrect lesser undead, the prime valkyr can replace sylvanas in what we assume now is Helheim

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heres hoping her valkyr are actually relevant in BfA

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but Im betting no, just like legion

hollow dock
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they were somewhat relevant with Helya

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I dont mean valkyr in general

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specifically sylvanas' prime valkyr

hollow dock
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We also got final confirmation that the spirit healers are actually Valkyr

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Oh. yea. Nah we probably wont ever get that.

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whole story about sylvanas trying to get more valkyr, but her main 8 left are completely absent except in a short story

hollow dock
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She doesnt have 8 left anymore

meager warren
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At this rate, i'd rather have arthas back than Sylvannas still alive by the end of BfA

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she has like. 3.

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well, she had 13, one sacrificed herself at icecrown, three in silverpine, and one in andorhal

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I thiiink alliance killed one more somewhere?

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so seven or eight

hollow dock
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I remember her being widdled down to a much smaller number. Interesting. Have to relook that up

zinc sandal
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She had 9

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Not 13 o.o

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yeah seeing that now

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was thinking about a mythological number, not the lore one

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so yeah she should have four?

hollow dock
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yea that sounds more with what I remember

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with one severely weakened after creating nathanos' rocking hot bod

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So effectively 3

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Techncially 4.

zinc sandal
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Yep

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That’s one more life she gets

hollow dock
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I know my quick maths

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even at 11pm

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I still dunno why it required three to save her in Silverpine

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probably just for the sake of killing all the valkyr in the zone

hollow dock
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She gets killed like four times.

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she was really reckless in her strategy

floral gyro
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Does she flat out die though? That kinda invalidates the whole 'at the hour of her third death'

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not that I think it's referring to sylv anyways

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Three so far, one of which was her own doing

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yes, she has

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shot in the skull

hollow dock
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She's died a lot more than 3.

floral gyro
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ahh

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Probably azeroth then

zinc sandal
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When?

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All I remember is Quelthalas to arthas, suicide on ICC, and betrayal in Silverpine

hollow dock
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Silverpine, she gets shot in the head by Godfreidl

zinc sandal
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Uh-huh, and it takes 3 to bring her back

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yet it only took one to resurrect her in Icecrown

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which is weird

zinc sandal
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She wasn’t resurrected

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The first one took her place

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It’s weird

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She was, she was in hell

hollow dock
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She threw herself off the citidal and was impaled and sent to what we think now is Helheim

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She died

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She was resurrected

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then the valkyr took her spirit out to talk, and the leader took her place.

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which, musta been awkward to wake up

zinc sandal
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Yeah, so apparently taking somebody’s place resurrects them but it’s also different somehow

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"oh look, ive been impaled"

hollow dock
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LOL

zinc sandal
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Or maybe the other 8 are not as strong

hollow dock
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thats funnier to me than I think it should have

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I still think that she only used three in Stormheim because Blizz just wanted to kill all three off

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to tie up loose ends in the zone

hollow dock
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same

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that said, it would be interesting for her to die again and be rezzed by the three powerful ones

zinc sandal
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Stormheim?

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Silverpine

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yeah mistype

zinc sandal
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XD

hollow dock
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its late

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forgive the mistakes

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leave her with just the weak one

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Then her true colors are revealed

zinc sandal
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Do we even know why they wanted to bind themselves to her? Besides plot armor

hollow dock
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Because that was their deal.

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She saves them from the scourge

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They follow her

zinc sandal
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Oh okay

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Which 'saves them from the scourge' means they become her resurrect toys

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I mean

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Sylvanas is marginally hotter than a block of ice

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I cant blame them

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bolvars flaming rock tits are nice, but theyre no sylvanas

zinc sandal
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Lol

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Bolvar’s flaming rock tits are definitely better than Sylvanas’ bee stings

meager warren
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Sylvannas is just slightly hotter than a block of ice. As in, not hot at all

zinc sandal
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Dead people are not hot. They simply can’t be.

meager warren
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it's hard to view someone that way when they have a horrible personality

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meager warren
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and also, yeah. she's ded

zinc sandal
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Oof that coat

floral gyro
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i want a gilnean overcoat so bad lmao

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I mean

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no pulse hasn't stopped the internet

jovial coral
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Necrophilia

floral gyro
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coats aaaaaaaaa

zinc sandal
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This is a Christian, family Discord

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No depravity allowed

hollow dock
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^

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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I mean, the bible described jesus as pretty smokin after he rose from the ground

hollow dock
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only original content and christian channel

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someones into it

zinc sandal
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He didn’t rise from the ground....

meager warren
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Keep that christian stuff away from here pls

zinc sandal
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Get your lore right

hollow dock
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Didnt he walk out of a cave?

zinc sandal
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Yeah

meager warren
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also, if you play WoW, you're pretty much depraved as it is

hollow dock
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Just like thrall and his questline to recollect his four elemetnal selves.

zinc sandal
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I’m not a Christian, I just know shit

hollow dock
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I know very random bits of information for no real reason at all

meager warren
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...

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so, you know shit or you know shit?

hollow dock
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Yes

zinc sandal
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Both

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I guess

meager warren
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why u do dis

floral gyro
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i too am familiar with shit

jovial coral
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It's good to know the Bible cause other fiction use similar plots or whatever

tulip sun
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So uh

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I found this?

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I don't know how to feel or believe it is real

meager warren
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did Saurfang get arrested?

floral gyro
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yeah that's real

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and yeah he gets captured

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Horde has to break him and Zul out

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which leads to Zandalar

meager warren
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cool. hope he rots

floral gyro
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WHOA

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whoa whoa whoa

meager warren
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damnit, why do we need to save him

zinc sandal
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Lmaoaoaoaoao

floral gyro
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What is this saurfang discrimination

hollow dock
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Its real

floral gyro
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he is the best

hollow dock
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but

meager warren
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i think i like Zandalar more than i hate Saurfang

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so, saving Saurfang it is

floral gyro
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what's wrong with saurfang???

tulip sun
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OMG

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IT IS REAL

hollow dock
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Anduin heals his injury

tulip sun
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-watches them all-

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xD

floral gyro
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seriously i'm trying to figure this out

hollow dock
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He got injured during the fighting

floral gyro
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Did he do something

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Sylvanas wants to deploy the plague in Undercity

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I definitely think Anduins trying to get political allies in the Horde

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Saurfang says no

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cuz honor

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which I love, fits his character

meager warren
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"honor"

floral gyro
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saurfang is the best of the horde imo

meager warren
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that's the top reason i dislike him tbh

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He fights and gets captured, injured in the process. As he limps on, anduin heals his wound.

meager warren
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and the second...

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well, gimme a min

floral gyro
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Either Saurfang or Baine should be warchief honestly

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Saurfangs to old. Baines to inexperienced.

floral gyro
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Baine could rule with Saurfang?

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Anduin trying to make peace with horde leaders would be great.

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I mean, sylvs too dead

floral gyro
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Saurfang being a advisor/buffer and shit

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OMG

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OMG

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didnt stop voljin

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BAINE IS THERE!!

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I love baine

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baine bitch slaps a human

meager warren
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Baine, too inexperienced? Tell that to Sylvannas

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looks like a lot of leaders are there

tulip sun
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especially the one true king

meager warren
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despite being the fucking banshee queen, she knows zip about being warchief

floral gyro
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brb

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Gelbin mekkatorque

hollow dock
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Sylvanas was a general prior to her taking over of the forsaken and horde.

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ranger-general of silvermoon

meager warren
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ok, well

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still

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She failed miserably against the infinite undead that they had never seen or fought against

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but ya know

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she tried her best

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shes probably the most experienced leader in the Horde, in terms of military

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She just doesnt know infrastructure

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like

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at all

meager warren
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well, yeah. but in terms of actual politics

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and like

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relationships

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actual politics

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warcraft

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good one

meager warren
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yea, that was one of my best

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She's not a political leader, but it's all about war, so...

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If this world had politics

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the war would never have happened

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so you know what that means

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same way lorthemar isnt a politician at all

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he does pretty well

meager warren
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oh. ur right

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it helps having a people that treat you as their goddess

meager warren
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except for the other people who know who she is

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Arson I think this is our first night together that we haven't fought. Im proud we've gotten so far.

meager warren
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I mean

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Also yea, just like Nazgrim, he's loyal to his warcheif.

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Like any good orc soldier.

tulip sun
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So

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How did I miss those scenes being datamined? xD

meager warren
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tbh, anyone who's just a soldier and nothing else sucks

tulip sun
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I am so excited more racial leaders are involved.

hollow dock
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I rather like them. They were raised soldiers from childbirth.

zinc sandal
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Saurfang is best orc.

meager warren
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well yeah, but does he have an actual personality aside from soldier?

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I love that saurfang quote

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specifically, I love ripping it off on my dark ranger RP character

meager warren
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except, that's an insult to every DH and DK and VE

hollow dock
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That is his personality. Not every character needs to have a deep significant and complex personality to be considered a good character. Less is more and that goes for them too.

meager warren
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and SP

hollow dock
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How are dark rangers an insult to DHs, DKs, VEs, and SPs?

meager warren
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no, no

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the recalcitrant part

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"That which does quell the recalcitrant"

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I mean, if hes loyal

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of course he hates the disloyal

meager warren
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well, i'm sorry if my character thinks for themselves

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He quells those that would rebel and attack the horde and its warchief

zinc sandal
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Independent thinking = Betrayal ???

hollow dock
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how does that affect anything DHs, DKs, SPs, and VEs do

meager warren
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gimme a mo'

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re·cal·ci·trant
rəˈkalsətrənt/
adjective
adjective: recalcitrant

1.
having an obstinately uncooperative attitude toward authority or discipline.
zinc sandal
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Mo’

hollow dock
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That word doesnt mean what you think it means

meager warren
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yes it does

hollow dock
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Uncooperative

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Independant thinking=/=Uncooperative

meager warren
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someone who's entirely obedient to everything and who never asks questions is apparently not recalcitrant

hollow dock
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and its obstinantely uncooperative

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You aren't reading the definition I think

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Its not being like agianst what they mean

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its forcibly being against them

meager warren
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people who don't listen are recalcitrant

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i get it

hollow dock
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No

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its not just they dont listen

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its when they dont listen and actively go against you

tulip sun
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Am I the only one who wants undead elves as an allied race?

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ob·sti·nate
ˈäbstənət/
adjective
adjective: obstinate

stubbornly refusing to change one's opinion or chosen course of action, despite attempts to persuade one to do so.
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When they are being obstinante to leadership or just being uncooperative

meager warren
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rebellious is one of the synonyms for recalcitrant but they're a little different

hollow dock
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That's when it is described as recalcitrant

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remember when you were proud for not arguing tonight

hollow dock
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Because synonym means 'similar to'

meager warren
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^

hollow dock
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I was. Then they pulls this.

meager warren
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okay but i still don't see why recalcitrant is a bad thing

hollow dock
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Obsinate

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Do you know what that word means

meager warren
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i mean, i guess it could be, t echnically

hollow dock
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You should because its what I am most of the time

meager warren
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boi, have u met me?

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yes, i know what it means

hollow dock
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Now apply this way of thinking

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to being uncooperative to authority

meager warren
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i'm obstinate as well, tyvm

hollow dock
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that is what saurfang is speaking about

zinc sandal
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When there is someone of authority above you, being recalcitrant is a negative thing to do.

meager warren
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I respectfully disagree

zinc sandal
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If you cannot follow orders, you will be punished

hollow dock
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That is specifically what recalcitrant means

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It specifically says when you are obstinately being uncooperative

meager warren
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i'd rather die than follow the orders of anyone who doesn't care about me, i.e the fucking warchief of the Horde. Sylvannas

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but i mean, i have to because Warcraft doesn't allow for splinter factions and shit like that

hollow dock
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You are ignoring that recalitrant says when youa re obstinately ignoring rule

meager warren
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...

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you are ignoring the part where i realize what it means

hollow dock
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not that you're against it, not that you are speakign your mind.

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not that you're independant

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None of that applies to what Saurfang has said

tulip sun
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Guys

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I just realized

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Geblin is also there

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In the cinematic o.o

hollow dock
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yea most of the leaders are there

zinc sandal
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Saurfang is most likely simply referring to those who commit betrayal or are likely to do so

meager warren
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the kind of people who are recalcitrant against injustice are some of the most honorable imo

hollow dock
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Jaina is there later on too

tulip sun
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I see Jaina, Geblin, Alleria, Genn, Anduin for alliance

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Baine, Saurfang, Sylvanas and Nathanos for Horde

hollow dock
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Yup yup

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give gelbin another badass spotlight, pls blizz

meager warren
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wait, which one's geblin

hollow dock
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Blow up a forsaken or abomination

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The gnome

meager warren
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ah

zinc sandal
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Gnome leader

hollow dock
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mekkatorque 🅱EAM

tulip sun
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Geblin is even least expected than baine

meager warren
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well, Vris

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only one argument! progress!

hollow dock
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Baby steps

floral gyro
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is baine a shaman or a warrior?

hollow dock
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baby steps

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Technically both

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Id say more warrior than shaman

zinc sandal
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He’d be like an enhancement shaman. Warrior with shamanistic ways.

hollow dock
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yea.

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like rehgar.

zinc sandal
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Mhm.

hollow dock
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Ya know what I really cant wait for?

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HD panda kids

zinc sandal
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...Why?

floral gyro
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^

meager warren
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because why not

hollow dock
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because seeing them at low polygon counts makes me irritated

zinc sandal
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Blizzard seems to be redoing old models littke by little. The time might come eventually if Pandaren are ever relevant again.

hollow dock
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it annoys me to no end that theyre the same level as the kids from BC and Vanilla but released during pandaria

meager warren
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Baine looks more like a HM Tauren than a TB Tauren

tulip sun
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I am so excited guys

floral gyro
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same

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Bfa is looking good to me so far

hollow dock
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I'll get excited when the full cinematic is released

tulip sun
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Those PH cinematics, lol

zinc sandal
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pandaren being relevant again
I made myself laugh

tulip sun
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I just like seeing all the lore characters involved

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I wonder if there are any others we don't see

meager warren
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pandaren will be relevant again. it's only a matter of time.

hollow dock
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I mean this is a full scale invasion.

zinc sandal
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Hahahahah

hollow dock
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Pandaren have beocme relevant in legion

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monk orderhall and what not

meager warren
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^

hollow dock
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Hell, the wandering isle was made relevant

tulip sun
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Priests have a neat little panda girl

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I love her

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Yalia I think

zinc sandal
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What they need to do is add Tol’vir and Vrykul already as allied races

hollow dock
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Vrykul maybe

meager warren
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Tol'vir would be a little weird

hollow dock
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but bird statue kmen dont fit the bill of allied race

floral gyro
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I just want my Ethereals 😦

meager warren
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how would mogs work on Tol'vir

floral gyro
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Although they'd be a full race not allied

zinc sandal
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Don’t care, it’d be cool

hollow dock
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how do races

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how mounts work with bird people

zinc sandal
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They are their own mount

floral gyro
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Same way ground mounts do with Worgen?

hollow dock
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but worgen dont only run

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they sit on their other mounts. like normal bipedals

zinc sandal
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Tol’vir could recover their stone form and spawn wings

hollow dock
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itd never fly

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no way to get a vendor mount up on them

meager warren
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too heavy

zinc sandal
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Idc

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You cannot take this from me

hollow dock
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you should care. that's how the canidacy of allied races work D=

zinc sandal
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IDC!!

meager warren
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^

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then you don't care enough about the concept of Tol'vir being a race

floral gyro
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w -

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How does that make sense

hollow dock
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DAMN

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FUCKIN CALLED YOU OUT HOLMES

steel venture
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quadrupeds aren't going to ever be allied races.

zinc sandal
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Several people are typing

hollow dock
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yes several people are typing

floral gyro
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Several people are typing...

steel venture
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naga can work due to them being bendy tubes that aren't bound by typical constrictions of humanoid movement

hollow dock
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its annoying because you can't see who's typing

jovial coral
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Idk of this would work for the tol'vir but a racial that would turn every mount into vial of sands kind of deal would be nice

hollow dock
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for that I could see xan

steel venture
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quadrupeds however, are expected to move a certain way and are impossible to function with mounts

hollow dock
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but you missed 1 cruicial detail

zinc sandal
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World stop! ....Carry on.

hollow dock
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NAGA DONT HAVE FEET FOR BOOTS

meager warren
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that reminds me, i need to get Vial of Sands from auc house

steel venture
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a LOT of races dont have boots

hollow dock
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Yes they all do.

steel venture
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and they could make a breed of naga using the sethrak model.

hollow dock
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Either as ankle guards or as actual boots.

steel venture
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as a skeleton base

meager warren
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i mean, naga don't even have legs

steel venture
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

meager warren
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much less feet

steel venture
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Naga brutes exist now, so why not a micro version that still looks serpentine like the sethrak do?

zinc sandal
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Legs legs what’s on the menu

hollow dock
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cuz then they wouldn't be brutes.

floral gyro
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Couldn't you just do something like worgen

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where they can turn into normal night elves on mounts and such

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Kind of fixes the mount problem

hollow dock
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Give them a whole new model and make a whole new race and not be allied races?

meager warren
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Worgen aren't night elves

floral gyro
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I know

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but they have two forms

hollow dock
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well some worgen aren't night elves.

zinc sandal
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^

meager warren
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wat

zinc sandal
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Original Worgen werr Nelves

hollow dock
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Its like. 60/40 split

meager warren
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ohh

hollow dock
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60 of all worgen are night elves

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40 is gilnaens afflicted

steel venture
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^ even the duskwood ones are mostly night elves

zinc sandal
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Aye

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World of Elfcraft

steel venture
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night elf worgen typically will never shift out of form though

hollow dock
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Literally

steel venture
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because they literally cant

hollow dock
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everything is the trolls fault

steel venture
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without the help of the Archdruid of the Dreamgrove and the Scythe of Elune

hollow dock
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if the trolls didn't squat at the well

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just mail lil baby boot models as tail rings

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solved, new allied race

zinc sandal
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Squat xD

hollow dock
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none of this would happen

meager warren
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i mean

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it's still the elf's fault either way

hollow dock
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disgusting barbarians all of them

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If the trolls didn't go to the well

zinc sandal
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Woah woah woah

hollow dock
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elves dont exist

meager warren
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;-;

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random channel related question

hollow dock
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its all the trolls fault

uncut vault
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why cant we link pics in here?

zinc sandal
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Don’t mess with my elves or you get the punch

hollow dock
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we can link them but we can't upload them

meager warren
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not sure

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but you can post Lightshots

hollow dock
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We just dont have access to uploading pictures.

uncut vault
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yeah thats what I meant. Seems weird that just this channel, of all channels, cant

hollow dock
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Yea thats weird that the two spoiler chats cant

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but I can hop down to classic and do that

meager warren
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#bot-commands can't

hollow dock
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seems counter intuitive tbh

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Hatbot can

uncut vault
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I think we could in PTR spoilers

zinc sandal
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No

meager warren
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Hatbot is a bot tho

hollow dock
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they closed off the ptr chat

#

rip

tropic trail
#

Game client just got updated 🤭

meager warren
#

anyway, about the new embassies

hollow dock
#

BFA related discussions? no thanks

zinc sandal
#

Allied races are live!
#trolling

meager warren
#

funny how the two cities are updated in minor ways

uncut vault
#

Poor celestine

meager warren
#

in what will likely amount to an amazing expac

uncut vault
#

anduin took her home then buried her in a tree

hollow dock
#

I never get my hopes up so Im always impressed with an expac

#

except WoD and cata

zinc sandal
#

BfA has a lot of potential. It’ll be hard for Blizzard to do any better after this one.

hollow dock
#

both of those wer elet downs despite me not expecting anything

meager warren
#

same, Vris

#

which is why i'm not expecting it to be as good as i've heard

jovial coral
#

They can always do better

zinc sandal
#

Old world revamp. That’s how.

ruby prawn
#

Why did you not like Cata?

zinc sandal
#

Because it was cata-strophic

hollow dock
frigid umbra
#

I liked cata except dragonsoul

hollow dock
#

Cata started off strong

#

but then

uncut vault
#

I thought cata was fine, till 4.3

#

and even then fangs of the father was great

hollow dock
#

20% nerfs right as the raids hit live

meager warren
#

i started this basically

hollow dock
#

No raiding was actually challenging.

ruby prawn
#

I loved Cata

#

Because they added the new races

hollow dock
#

Then the highly abusable LFR came out, the rushed ending that is Dragon Soul, the terrible anti-climatic deathwing fight

uncut vault
#

I was more sad that dungeons got nerfed

hollow dock
#

Dont get me wrong theres a lot I like about cata

zinc sandal
#

Only expansion I don’t like is BC. Good grief.

hollow dock
#

but I was heavily disappointed in it

uncut vault
#

the dragon soul lore weapon had some decent build up in the dungeons

#

all that thrown away in a shitty raid

ruby prawn
#

And what about WoD?

#

I didn't actually play that X-Pac

hollow dock
#

2 years of doing nothing

#

There was what

ruby prawn
#

But I didn't like leveling in it

hollow dock
#

3 patches

#

int he whole expac

uncut vault
#

I feel like its hard to hate WoD, because there was nothing there to hatae

zinc sandal
#

XD

hollow dock
#

It was so unbelievably empty

zinc sandal
#

Leave it to Vris to hate even nothingness

uncut vault
#

the content that was there was alright

#

(except killing maraad)

hollow dock
#

oh yea no

#

The content we got was fantasic

uncut vault
#

but there just wasnt really anything there

hollow dock
#

it had a great start with the tanaan opening sequence

#

building up your garrison going throuhg the zones

#

all of that was absolutely great

zinc sandal
#

I’m still sad we couldn’t enter Karabor.

uncut vault
#

would I have preferred the original WoD plan? absolutely, but the stuff we did get was fine

hollow dock
#

but then nothing happened, blizz dropped the ball, released the selfie camera after 4 whole months of zero content being released

ruby prawn
#

What

uncut vault
#

dont diss the most impactful patch of all time

ruby prawn
#

A selfie camera?

uncut vault
#

6.1 was the pinnacle of content

ruby prawn
#

How do you get it

zinc sandal
#

Lmao

uncut vault
#

garrison missions

hollow dock
#

you had to do a garrison mission to get it

frigid umbra
#

Garridon mission

ruby prawn
#

It's a toy, right?

hollow dock
#

yes

ruby prawn
#

Can you trade it?

hollow dock
#

3 raids. 3 patches that had actual content.

#

I am not sure

uncut vault
#

me and my GM got the best pic ever in that patch

hollow dock
#

As far as expacs go, Wod is by far the worst for me because it had so little.

#

and promised me so much

ruby prawn
#

What do you hate in Legion

zinc sandal
#

Vris’ heart was broken

meager warren
#

everything promises so much and then when it finally arrives, nope

hollow dock
#

What do I hate in legion? Personally, the artifact power system and Legiondaries.

floral gyro
#

I hate what they did to Tirion and Vol'jin

hollow dock
#

Everything else I love. Its paced properly, the story is great, the zones are beautiful

#

theres plenty of stuff to do

meager warren
#

not enough roaches to stomp on in Broken Shore

ruby prawn
#

In Legion, I hate the flying requirements, Vol'jin s death and the fact that I HAVE TO HAVE fuckingn Magatha in my class order hall

hollow dock
#

You can deactivate her ya know

ruby prawn
#

Yes, but ATM she is too powerful

hollow dock
#

I rather like the flying requirements

#

You play the game

#

you get flying

ruby prawn
#

No

hollow dock
#

that's how it was for me. Did they change it?

ruby prawn
#

You need exalted with the factions

#

It's a bit too much

hollow dock
#

yea. play the game.

frigid umbra
#

And i think flying in legion us easier to get then wod

ruby prawn
#

More like grind the game

hollow dock
#

Its an MMO

floral gyro
#

That nightborne rep grind is insane imo

hollow dock
#

It was insane at the start of the exact

floral gyro
#

That level of grinding is too much

#

Not fun either

ruby prawn
#

Yeah

hollow dock
#

but now with the nerfs they applied its so rediculously easy

ruby prawn
#

It's just the same thing over and over

floral gyro
#

Good honestly

hollow dock
#

Yes that's what every expac in WoW has beena nd what every MMO is

#

repeatable content to keep you playing

ruby prawn
#

They should've required a lower level of rep

#

Or to do the raid for that zone

frigid umbra
#

You would get rep just by doing daily world quests... i would not call that a gring

hollow dock
#

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

frigid umbra
#

Grind

meager warren
#

if you don't want grind, don't play WoW. WoW is literally nothing but grind in terms of gameplay

hollow dock
#

It really isnt even a grind

#

You just log in do your 4 emissaries

#

go fuck off to whatever you want to do

meager warren
#

Vris, never underestimate the power of human laziness

ruby prawn
#

If the world quests would have changed like weekly, it would've been fun

floral gyro
#

^

hollow dock
#

They change every few hours

ruby prawn
#

I am not lazy, but I was so bored of just doing the same quests everyday

#

The same storyline

floral gyro
#

Flying was the only grind in legion I didn't enjoy.

hollow dock
#

Its like that theyre actually dailies

#

with make up on them

#

or something

floral gyro
#

And that was just because I wanted to finish the story.

hollow dock
#

weird.

meager warren
#

jesus, tauren mounts are massive compared to elf mounts

hollow dock
#

Yes

#

tauren are significantly larger than night elves

ruby prawn
#

Way larger

meager warren
#

hate how the best aesthetic race is one of the smallest

ruby prawn
#

I can't wait for the new zandalari druid forms

hollow dock
#

only their travel forms

#

everything else is cat bear ugly seal

ruby prawn
#

Yeah, the travel ones

floral gyro
#

Honestly the travel forms are the reason I'm thinking of finally learning druid

ruby prawn
#

I will reroll another druid in Bfa

hollow dock
#

Druid is pretty simply to learn.

#

Especially if you play the Warrior, Rogue, and mage classes.

ruby prawn
#

The druid is so much better than other classes when it comes to world content

hollow dock
#

Eh. DKs 4 lyfe

ruby prawn
#

You can instantly mount

#

You can be a tank, but still go invis

hollow dock
#

Why mount when I can kill everything around me forever?

#

why go invis when I can get more chances at purple drops?

ruby prawn
#

Because you still need to use a mount

hollow dock
#

Who says?

ruby prawn
#

Oh, you just walk around, yeah

#

Getting the "vanilla" blood running

#

xD

hollow dock
#

You can play the entire game without ever having mounted up

silent peak
#

O_O

ruby prawn
#

Yeah, but it takes longer

hollow dock
#

Not really. If anything, its actually faster.

meager warren
#

well, it's not as impressive as what Doubleagent is doing, but it's cool

hollow dock
#

Mounts take what. 2 or 3 seconds to actoually mount and go?

#

I can fly off at over 400% speed in less than 1

ruby prawn
#

1.5

#

Wat

#

How?

#

What*

hollow dock
#

Glider+Metoer

ruby prawn
#

Oh

hollow dock
#

with nosq boots

ruby prawn
#

But you need a high ground

#

The* high ground

hollow dock
#

meteor launches you, nosq gets you the speed and glider flies you down

ruby prawn
#

Man

#

You ruined it

hollow dock
#

no prequel memes here

#

boyo

#

only money

ruby prawn
#

You had to say "you underestimate my...

olive mirage
#

i cant wait to try and get the new secret mount

floral gyro
#

A surprise to be sure but a welcome one

ruby prawn
#

Ben Swolo memes?

hollow dock
#

which one is that SirSlayerDudebroman

olive mirage
ruby prawn
#

How is the new secret mount looking?

hollow dock
#

Now thats an interesting one

#

though it does look fake. :x

olive mirage
#

its supposidly a multi-person flying mount with stacking speed per person

silent peak
#

Is that an underwater mount?

olive mirage
#

flying mount

hollow dock
#

since thats the exact model of Yogg-sarons brain

compact wadi
#

I want it more than the unicorn becuase it can fly

ruby prawn
#

You are lvl 120 already?

olive mirage
#

i got that off reddit

hollow dock
#

I'm doubting its real

ruby prawn
#

It was a joke

floral gyro
#

@hollow dock it's legit, you can check wowhead

olive mirage
#

i mean, its a legit mount

#

thats just the model

hollow dock
#

If it is, it's not staying that model.

ruby prawn
#

I believe they will update the model

hollow dock
#

that's a boss mount model.

floral gyro
#

The model is probably a placeholder

olive mirage
#

blizzard loves placeholders

#

since it allows them to test shit

#

thats the whole point of placeholders actually

hollow dock
#

By sadistic12345 (2,404 – 2·28) 4 days ago (Patch 7.3.5)
reddit got its own mount, cool

ruby prawn
#

They are already testing placeholders for players

hollow dock
#

god

#

fucking

#

damn

olive mirage
#

the fact that apperently it can hold a large, if not infinite, number of people

#

with stacking fly speed

ruby prawn
#

I think they will change it

hollow dock
#

Yea that sounds a little to rediculous

ruby prawn
#

Probably gonna be a raid mount drop

hollow dock
#

It drops from 'The Hivemind' so not likely to be a raid drop

#

This would fall more in line with Riddler's Mind Worm or the Jellyfish mount

ruby prawn
#

They can still change thay

hollow dock
#

one of the puzzle hidden ones.

ruby prawn
#

That

olive mirage
#

with that description

#

its likely a puzzle mount

ruby prawn
#

Maybe

hollow dock
#

they can, but they normally dont.

ruby prawn
#

But Blizzard might throw a curve ball

hollow dock
#

Since people thought Kosumoth was a raid boss until he was discovered.

ruby prawn
#

Going back to the boy king. I think Blizzard chose their words carefully and I am pretty sure it's Anduin

#

It says king

uncut vault
#

lets

#

not go back

ruby prawn
#

If they said leader it could've been a Horde char

#

Ok

#

Let's speculate about Thrall

floral gyro
#

I honestly think he'll retire or die

hollow dock
#

He dies

#

the end

#

please no more green jesus

ruby prawn
#

They want to highlight his storyline in bfa

#

He had 1 xpac

#

For hinself

olive mirage
#

how about, vul'jin

#

and his urn

ruby prawn
#

He will have another one

hollow dock
#

The thing is Exo, I'm not sure if you have found things liek Puzzlebox of Yogg-saron

#

but any words from the Old Gods is 100% metaphorical

#

It is never literal.

floral gyro
#

I actually like thrall but I still think they'll kill him cause metzen left

olive mirage
#

im gonna miss my shadow priest dagger sometimes talking to me

uncut vault
#

he still is willingand happy to voice thrall

hollow dock
#

Metzen still Voice acts

floral gyro
#

True

hollow dock
#

he just doesn't lead teams in blizzard :v

ruby prawn
#

He voice acts Bastion

uncut vault
#

thrall will either return to the Horde, or die, is my bet

hollow dock
#

(that ones more of a joke)

floral gyro
#

It's kinda sad how most of the original wow Dev team is gone

meager warren
#

or, die and then return to the horde

ruby prawn
#

I hope they don't kill him

meager warren
#

because Sylvannas had to go that far

floral gyro
#

God I want normal cool thrall back

uncut vault
#

All of bastions lines actually are voiced by a person

floral gyro
#

Loktar

hollow dock
#

Time happens and deep shit.

uncut vault
#

then tuned to bastion sounds

ruby prawn
#

Thrall is the only one we have left

#

From the first xpacs

hollow dock
#

sylvanas?

ruby prawn
#

Voljin died, Cairne

hollow dock
#

Lor'themar?

#

Hello?

ruby prawn
#

Who cares about Sylvanas and Theron?

hollow dock
#

You cant say Thralls the only one

uncut vault
#

who cares about the warchief

ruby prawn
#

Sylvanas was created for horny teens

hollow dock
#

when two others are very clearly there

ruby prawn
#

And Theron is useless

hollow dock
#

Sylvanas was made back during WC3

uncut vault
#

she wasnt horny at all in WC3

#

or even in vanilla

#

wasnt will wrath that she got slut mogged, and got popular

hollow dock
#

and in vanilla her model was horrid to look at

ruby prawn
#

Really?

meager warren
#

Sylvannas wasn't created for horny teens

#

but that's how she turned out

uncut vault
#

had a full covered cloak and armor

olive mirage
#

imagine a whole guild in the hivemind mount on a pvp server, one person dismounts it, and suddenly 30 people show up kadLUL

hollow dock
#

all of her models from Vanilla to Legion

ruby prawn
#

I came

olive mirage
#

why did her skin become green

#

unless its just the lighting

hollow dock
#

Lighting

ruby prawn
#

She's old

meager warren
#

because.. it's rotting?

ruby prawn
#

It rots

balmy heart
#

And deadish

meager warren
#

she's ded

uncut vault
#

just lighting, still pale blue in normal lighting

#

dark rangers dont rot afaik

hollow dock
#

Her body, adn the dark rangers, aren't susceptible to the rot the normal forsaken are

meager warren
#

wat

uncut vault
#

theyre banshees possessing and sustaining a body

ruby prawn
#

Didn't know that

hollow dock
#

Magic binds their bodies together.

#

Forsaken are just risen corpses.

ruby prawn
#

Can Sylvanas die?

hollow dock
#

Yes she can.

floral gyro
#

Yes

ruby prawn
#

How

hollow dock
#

Shes died several times inf act

uncut vault
#

not naturally, but yes.

ruby prawn
#

She's a Banshee

hollow dock
#

She was impaled on saronite spikes

ruby prawn
#

Her body can

hollow dock
#

she was shot in the head

uncut vault
#

sylv fully bound herself to her body afaik

hollow dock
#

When she bound herself to her body, she dies with it

#

all dark rangers bind permiantely with their body but keep some of their banshee abilities. As a banshee you can't really do much.

uncut vault
#

still waiting for blizz to add the dark ranger hood for players

floral gyro
#

Still waiting for dark rangers

hollow dock
#

Im still waiting on a wide selection of actual hoods

uncut vault
#

tfw they made a cool looking black hood in BfA

hollow dock
#

theyve had the model in the game for players

uncut vault
#

then give it to alliance leather wearers

hollow dock
#

since like. BC

#

and it angers me they never gave it to us

uncut vault
#

Ive been coping with the Nighthold hood

#

which works because it also has the red eyes

hollow dock
#

glorious hunter nighthold set

uncut vault
#

I look forward to when void elves come out, so I can make my gal with her proper skin tone

#

it works but its just not the same

hollow dock
#

I just want my tentacle hair

uncut vault
#

I know its never possible because of how much work it would take

#

but hoods that dont give me a badly buzzed haircut in the back

#

pls

hollow dock
#

oh they could do it

#

they are showing more and more prowess with things like teh shadowmoon orc set

#

and now the coats in BFA and on Genn/Nathanos

uncut vault
#

Well, theyve explained why they havent done it already, because fixing every hairstyle for every race is just a tad too much

hollow dock
#

true.

#

and sometimes these details can cause huge server issues

#

they had to remove the belt details from the SMO set because it was causing huge server draws

uncut vault
#

I just want my gobbo to not be balding, and for my dark ranger gal to have her braid

#

You'd be surprised how tiny changes cause a ton of lag

#

in HotS, they had to remove their new ping system because the ability to ping on character health instead of the minimap was causing gamebreaking stuttering

#

ho boy

#

"This is not an Allied Race, but the Kul Tiran and Thin Human races have data marking them as both player and NPC races. "

#

🤔

dense plover
#

The same was true of vrykul in legion

#

It saves them time with armor models and some animations/customization systems

#

Imagine as a designer being able to create an npc like a player creates a character, it’s much easier than doing it using data bits and info

#

When you need a lot of unique npcs, making them player races gives you easier customization

ruby prawn
#

I don't think we will ever see dark rangers

#

Probably Shadow Hunters

#

Next X-Pac after bfa

tropic trail
#

Not with that attitude we won't.

ruby prawn
#

Think about it

#

We will see Vol'jin in bfa

tacit vine
#

elves aren't people

ruby prawn
#

He might teach us the ways

#

Elves are trolls

subtle flower
#

I swear, I'm going to go nuts waiting for the alliance plate models to get posted. >.<

ruby prawn
#

The new horse models

#

Are updated from the old ones?

#

Or new mounts?

uncut vault
#

Im more excited for the cloaks than the actual sets tbh

subtle flower
#

I also wanna see wherever those cute skirt icons are for.

ruby prawn
#

I am excited for the parrot mounts

#

I will do anything for then

subtle flower
#

Oh dear, I am now reminded of my concern that the mount I want will be removed from the game. >.<

ruby prawn
#

What mount

subtle flower
#

The holy paladin artifact horse.

ruby prawn
#

You won't lose it

subtle flower
#

But I don't have it yet.

uncut vault
#

takes like an hour to get

subtle flower
#

I'm level 49.

ruby prawn
#

Not 1 hour

uncut vault
#

Bfa gives a boost 😄

ruby prawn
#

The mark of sentinax

subtle flower
#

But I enjoy the leveling process.

ruby prawn
#

Takes a long time

jovial coral
#

I suggested parrot mounts like ten years ago and everyone thought I was dumb

uncut vault
#

not since they nerfed it and increased the drop rate

ruby prawn
#

And u have to wait for invasions in the isles

#

They did?

#

Time to farm them then

subtle flower
#

I'm just scared that the removal of artifacts will mean the removal of those mounts, but that mount will go perfect with my outfit.

ruby prawn
#

They won't remove them

uncut vault
#

they wont be removed

subtle flower
#

They'll just add another method to obtain them then?

jovial coral
#

Well I got little to no support as I recall

ruby prawn
#

If you play the legion content you will always be able to get them

uncut vault
#

artifacts arent even being removed, just being made moot for BfA

ruby prawn
#

Probably in bfa

#

I dunno how it's gonna work tho

uncut vault
#

the mount quests arent related to artifacts at all

ruby prawn
#

Are related to class halls

#

I think the warrior has the worst class mount

#

Just a damn proto Drake

uncut vault
#

yeah but proto drakes are great

ruby prawn
#

A storm Drake would've been much better

subtle flower
#

I just know I need that mount to go with my armor. Most mounts wearing armor that goes with my armor are Elekks, which are.... clunky.

ruby prawn
#

A blue one

#

Not the one from emissaries

subtle flower
#

Though something more fantastical than a horse would be nice, I don't have an option. It's a horse or an elekk.

ruby prawn
#

I want to reroll a blood elf on my pally

#

A tauren will look horrible on a horse

subtle flower
#

I'm hoping that BfA will have better pants for my armor.

ruby prawn
#

(which ai have currectnyl)

#

I* CURRENTLY*

#

Sry caps

#

Send a pic

#

Of your tmog

#

But how exactly does the leveling work now? You get more xp from quests?

subtle flower
#

Sure, soon as my game finishes updating. My pants are totally eh.

ruby prawn
#

How can you level to 60 in Westfall for example

subtle flower
#

Quests have been pretty good. I've also gotten the last two levels just from exploring, gathering, and pet battles.

ruby prawn
#

I don't like battle pets

#

I can't believe they made a whole X-Pac around Pandas and Pokemon

subtle flower
#

I enjoy the collection process, and having one I like run around with me. I'm hoping for some new ones I like with BfA since I haven't had any luck picking a whole team as is.

rancid spear
#

The zones now just scale with your level, is great for questing since you don't need to worry about outleveling a zone, enemies have a lot more health so you don't oneshot them anymore

subtle flower
#

Within limits*

#

They still have a range of scaling.

rancid spear
#

Yeah, forgot to add that, the minimum level still exists, and Azeroth has a maximum of 60 for the Classic zones

#

So you can't go to Badlands at 10, for example

#

But you can level on Duskwood at 58

subtle flower
#

I have enjoyed that in my leveling process. Everything had been a total cakewalk.

#

Then with that change, things were tough again. Though I can no longer slightly overlevel dungeons and then solo them.

rancid spear
#

Yeah, it's great, and I'm using the actioncam with settings from dynamiccam so I don't get dizzy and stuff and it's been great too

ruby prawn
#

But if I do all the quests from Westfall from lvl 10, do I get to lvl 60 just from that?

uncut vault
#

No

#

still only gives around 5 levels of xp

rancid spear
#

The XP is basically the same

#

Before you couldn't even complete Westfall w/ heirlooms because you'll outlevel the zone and get green/gray quests by the end of the questline

ruby prawn
#

Oh

#

I get it

#

But do heirlooms help much now?

#

It's still too bad you can't skip the WoD content

uncut vault
#

shoulda linked WoD and legion

rancid spear
#

Actually WoD is not that bad if you have flying

ruby prawn
#

Ye

#

I don't have flying

rancid spear
#

Get heirlooms and exp potion and just do objectives and rares

ruby prawn
#

I didn't play the X-Pac when it came out

#

And ai don't like the Zones

#

I*

rancid spear
#

Oh, that's a shame since getting flying is very time consuming

#

But once you have flying, you can level Draenor in 2 hours or so

#

Very very easy just leveling and completing objectives

ruby prawn
#

Well, you don't you go on my account and get flying for me?

rancid spear
#

Trust me, I just leveled 6 90-110 doing flying in Draenor and Invasions

#

Oh it was such a pain the first time I don't want to even look at that again

#

I had to do it two times, btw, so yeah no thanks lol

ruby prawn
#

PLEASE

#

I will give you 10 gold

rancid spear
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You can pray to the devs and see if in Bfa they do something about pathfinder from old content because it's going to get really bad now that we have Draenor AND Legion

ruby prawn
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I hope they will make world quests better

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For the path finder

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I hated grinding the same stuff for such a long time

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At least a lower level of rep would be great

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It should be made so you have to play the game, like complete the storyline, defeat raid bosses and dungeon bosses and maybe be Friendly with the faction

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Or 1 level higher

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(of rep. I dunno which one is next)

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I also hope to get the artifact weps back after bfa

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I don't want to trade in the scepter of Sargeras for a "great staff of wisdom"

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Or any other weapon for that matter

rancid spear
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Yeah apparently they get unpowered in the current prepatch we're having

ruby prawn
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I know the whole story

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Not unpowered

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But we won't be able to upgrade them anymore

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And they won't get a higher ilvl on them anymore (when we level in bfa)

dense plover
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Dawk

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There are no more xp potions

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They can’t be earned anymore, so they are essentially gone

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Related to artifacts, in all likelihood, you just won’t be able to use them above level 110, or once you do the quest introing to BfA, your weapon will deactivate

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They have to ensure that you don’t go in to the expac with it

ruby prawn
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They said you will be able to use artifact weps as much as you want, but by the time you reach level cap you will want to change it

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There are Blizzard employees in this server. Why don't we ask them?

dense plover
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Because we don’t ping them

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It’s just generally not something we do

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Also, that would be favoritism, they are here as community members, not blizzard employees

ruby prawn
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But they are under the Blizzard banner

dense plover
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Also, I’m pretty sure you are mixing up what they said about legendaries with artifacts

ruby prawn
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I may be

dense plover
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They said that you would be able to use legendaries, not artifacts

ruby prawn
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Hmm

dense plover
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They’ve not said anything about artifacts

ruby prawn
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You might be right

dense plover
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Which is why we speculate

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Hell, it might be answered tomorrow

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It’s one of the most asked questions

ruby prawn
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Today was speculated that we will be able to pre-order bfa?

rancid spear
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There aren't 20% exp potions anymore? The ones that cost 100 order resources

ruby prawn
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And get the first 4 allied races playable?

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Order rezawrces from the Garrison

rancid spear
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I wasn't talking about the crazy 300%, just the normal 20% ones

dense plover
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Oh, those still exist. But those are garrison potions. They stop working at level 98 too

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And you can’t buy those prior, so they are only useful in warlords

olive mirage
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the garrison potions stop at 100

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i used them in legion content

upper laurel
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How quickly can I get exalted with the Argus factions so I can be a void elf or a light forged draenei

tropic trail
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@upper laurel Just do the invasion points whenever you see them in Argus, make sure to do WQs and grind the missions with your followers. I think you'll be able to get exalted within a week to two weeks.

upper laurel
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Okay gotcha

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Ain't nobody wants to do invasion points tho...

ruby prawn
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The invasion points grant rep xp?

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Or are you talking about the weeklys?

gusty wolf
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Guys, how long till the Q&A?

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I'm itching to see it.

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CAN'T FUCKING WAIT ANY M0AR.

tropic trail
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Invasion points now have a high chance of dropping rep tokens.

sinful olive
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@gusty wolf 11 hours and 13 minutes untill the Q&A

gusty wolf
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Thanks a lot @sinful olive

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Didn't know it was so late.

clever ember
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12pm PST/3pm EST is the Q&A time slots. That’s normal time for pretty much all the Q&A and such.

tulip torrent
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but the date is kinda strange

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right before the weekly reset

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most times didnt they choose like friday or something

uncut vault
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only other QnA thats been on a tuesday was the legion beta announcement

clever ember
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Days may have differed but the time frame has always been the same

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At least as far as I can remember it’s always been the same time frame

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🤷🏼‍♀️

uncut vault
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yeah its always been either 11 PST or 12 PST

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and always thursday/friday, except for announcements

tulip torrent
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does anyone know when us servers are getting their weekly reset

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i mean in which hour

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or more correctly is the interview before or after the weekly na reset

clever ember
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They usually reset around 5am EST

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Im not surprised they’re doing it on a Tuesday. Especially if pre orders are going to go live. Allows them to send out the small patch making allied races playable. If the rumors are true.

tulip torrent
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i woudnt count to that

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maybe we will get more silithus quests

ruby prawn
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We will definitely have new silithus quests

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QnA is tomorrow then?

clever ember
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Yeah, we’ll today technically.

ruby prawn
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3pm US time?