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@grand citrus ur friend is imposter 
he got feraldruid kappa and vodka
I had a single name in mind but I dunno, I kind of like the random name generator to be honest
we out here suffering ππ
I have Zekhan, kneel before me
-kneel-
Im mad at myself because i pressed esc while i was at realms list ehen they were still locked
RIP

petition to ban people from the internet who make pictures with their phone
π
don't worry, it's much faster than the estimated time
It says less then a minute... Ive been waiting for 10 minutes so not rly
they blew it
Still.stuck at logging.....
Come on - Don't be surprised at the queue. THAT is CLASSIC π
this really is the true classic experience.
@placid raptor same
all the names are gone guys
wel, than maybe it stops being fast as soon as you hit "less than a min" 
You're lucky the server's running. It could have simply been offline.^^
Does it only let you create character and name right now?
yes
still stuck at logging...
so word of caution, i got an error trying to get on a specific realm, when i got back in it put me on a different realm and didn't notice until i had made a char
Just got disconnected, stuck on logging in.
blizzard totally blew it
Happy I got my name first go through
On the correct realm ?
yay, I made it <3
Page
all the hype and they didn't put enough resources behind it
Now im stuck on "logging" more than a min. I guess thats progress
Pagle = alliance I hear
seems most are stuck at Logging in to game server
I think, blizzard did a really good job - huge que, long waiting time
aaaaaaarg thats classic feeling
@faint parrot what maeks you say that?
additional to that an escalated forum π
at some point it should change from "logging into game server" to queue
then it's just a matter of time
i get blz51901016 every time I try to select bloodsail heh
I'm mad that I managed to get in, got the "must have character" error and got kicked out now I'm stuck
I love the people who say in the forum now:
If one of my names is taken, Classic is already over for me now π
LOL
welp
HAHAHAHA
I'm at "logging in to..." for 3+ minutes. Previously it was 20 seconds until I got the message I was disconnected.
Lmao
haha wut
In queue at position: 4100
Congratz to everyone who got their planned names reserved π
I got βRagnarosβ so i was pretty hype about that
got my first one, my second one is already taken T.T
Missed Rowena π’
When you mess up your name so you have too delete it and try again lol
xD
LMFAO they put me on mirage raceway server and now i gotta wait more to switch to golemagg
Same
get the feeling some servers are just hosed... i.e. all the 'low' pop ones
Made all 3 before realising I was on the wrong server
I was at char creation on mirage raceway
I just typed in my password and it got me on server list right away
oh yay
This is exhausting
What was a good Mage-Gnom name?
Gnotagnelf
So I was online at the exact minute, had all servers locked. Tried to make a character, couldn't. I logged off and back in, got stuck, then I got to over 10k queue to the wrong server. Got stuck, then I got over 10k queue to the right server, and now my name is taken.
So I keep trying to connect to a server and it keeps kicking me
Yup, seems to be a pretty common theme
I havent been kicked off realm list yet so i must be getting in now
They dropped the ball on this one
Yeah I did get into character creation ONCE but then I realized I was on the wrong server
Yeah well, I won't be supporting this shit anymore.
Same here dreamer
so I delete that character and try t omove to another one and ta da
Okay im in
did you get on the right server?
Wait, whut? Now it says I got it.
For those claiming for other people, how long is the turnover for names?
Im still stuck on perminant logging in to game server
worked for me now. got right into character creation and got my names
I'm just trying to get onto the right bloody server
Was there an update or something you need?
some servers seem more reliable than others. I can get into the char create screen on almost all servers but the one I actually want π¦
For me it said the name was unavailable, but when I restarted the game it shows that I have the character with the name I wanted.
@celest atlas your name, are you a racing fan or a Bachelor fan?
annnd there's another D/C
I was until he went to Nascar!
I was always more of a Kimi fan anyway
can't get onto Bloodsail Buccaneers
Same. That is the only one I can't get into
low because no one can get on I bet
ding ding ding ding
I was damn lucky to get in early and get two names
trying to get back in for a third
Rip Bloodsail lol
Damn
Dang I can't seem to get in to Oceanic Realm
It keeps getting stuck at here , dang
why is bloodsail taking so long
It is roleplaying a true classic wow server.
I named my characters on the spot lol
and just got into bloodsail
same
okay managed to get into the realm. Looks like you can't delete a character if you have made a mistake
you can
oh well . Just remember not to make any typos
i deleted one
You can, I deleted ones
let me try agian
and made it again
Me and my friend were able to claim Gilneas & Kultiras
lul
how long before people trade names on ebay π ?
okay it took a couple of times and finally managed to delete a character and recreate it
How long is name creation up
Until release I thought?
Got into Bloodsail and got my names!
Today is basically the βreleaseβ you can make characters from here on out
lucky, only got partially
Just canβt log in till the 27th
I wanted to make a female mage and call her Zatanna but all of the female faces just freaked me the hell out
I had an issue making my troll female; all looked pretty terrible, including even the hair
Das a troll
not too many choices for a mage (near orcs starting area)
maybe if he wasn't such a ... people wouldn't have sniped his name (or would just give it to him)
Tbh there's a large demographic nabbing names to sell
Inevitably
I'm impressed Soda got his
money transactions are against TOS aren't they ?
Yeah. But when's that stopped some people
I hope bfa gold never touches/impact classic but afraid it won't be isolated long
I mean classic is gonna be a shitshow for one realm cause I think all US streamers went to the same realm besides Towelliee
and that realm is inevitably going to be a mess
hope mine (whitemane and fairbanks) are safe frm big streamers
Kinda disapointed they aren't adding the OG unarmored epic mounts but it's whatever i guess
Shroud, Soda, Asmon and Esfand to name a few are going Faerlina
So i'll safely say that realm is doomed
Oh and xQc
Even XQC whaaaaat
http://web.archive.org/web/20031123102505/http://www.blizzard.com/Wow/ if anyone fancies a trip back in time - this is a fun read! especially the archived news
Hey all
@indigo venture it depends where you live. I will be able to log in at 3pm on Aug 26th
and we were able to use alt codes too for the toon names
any suggestion for a good click to heal addon like Healbot that works fine on classic? (and on bfa too, I prefer using same addons on both)
Will classic be permanent
once released?
Willl it divide the player base big time ?
It's a lot of effort being made to not be permanent for the foreseeable future.
So early character creation has a 3-character creation limit π oh well, the 3 I made are ones I wanted, so am happy.
do soul shards stack?
No, they are not but youβve got special bag to carry more soul shards (but you can only have soul shards in it) like the Core Felcloth Bag which can have 28 soul shards in it
may not be in at launch though
those types of bags were only implemented in 1.9, so may not be in until phase 4 or 5
Anyone know if Ben Schulz has reclaimed Leeroy, or coming back at all?
Does anybody have a link to a good world map that has detailed zones showing flightpaths and boats/zepplins to other continents?
Thanks for the info Kiingy, I had completely forgotten that those bags were implemented later in the game.
Volo, here : http://conradaskland.com/blog/wow-flight-paths-eastern-kingdoms-and-kalimdor-maps/
Itβs not perfect, but they are quite detailed
ty sir, that is perfect
have a friend get it and then release it for you later
Will classic be permanent
once released?
Willl it divide the player base big time ?
yes
and warriors getting the name swifty/baj all over again LoL
@native reef perma yes, with phases. SPECULATION says we might go right back into WOLK eventually haha
wrath of litch king ?
so basicly its just wow all over again ? π
so eventually there will be 2 wows
2 bfas
@fallow canyon
I think we are going to see a trilogy of the Classic world of warcraft experience
It will start with Vanilla and end with WoTLK
I started back at the end of TBC but I actually played with a friend when Vanilla launched and man, I was super addicted to it from the start
ya it will end likely around WOLK i think haha
I never understood why they have RP and Normal servers. They're basically both the same, right?
i liked WOLK so thats fine with me π
NOWADAYS they are the same ye, back in the day they were quite different tho
i think RP servers are for the ppl who want to pretend to be someone else, like fully envelop their toon
RP servers are more for like LARPing is what I can think of.
They want to live the idea of being a character within Azeroth. They fully develop a toon with a backstory and everything.
kinda like D&D but digital
RP is the only reason I've continued the play the game since Wrath. I did both raid and RP from vanilla to Wrath, but then just got bored with the raiding and moved only to RP.
ya addons like that one RP one really make RPing fun i think haha, allows for a whole another world in wow π
my toons are on pagle made now, cant wait
I've really wanted to try RPing out again but I'm afraid to do so
Why are you afraid?
use that addon, make a profile and let RPing come to YOU haha π just goto moonguard server π
Just not sure if I can even do it correctly anymore lol
And is Moonguard the only server for RPing these days?
there's an addon for RPing???
... Yes, several addons for RP.
I've never done RP, so I have no idea
Think of it like this. There is PVE, PVP and RP in WoW. All have their own addons, communities etc.
"total RP 3" thats the one. great RP addon imo
I've played on RP servers in the past and never encountered anyone actually roleplaying.. I just wasn't sure of Classic did anything different with regards to rules or pvp. I prefer not to play any pvp.
If you go to the major cities, for example cathedral square in SW, there's RP almost 24 hours.
I think I'm going to check it out actually
Go for it.
Due to extremely high demand, we will be establishing the following new WoW Classic realm at approximately 20:00 CEST (19:00 BST) on Wednesday, August 14: Gehennas β PvP β English We suggest that players choosing a realm consider this one, as we expect that other Englis...
2 hours for EU Gehennas?
Hi guys. Like a lot of you probably are as well, I am stuck on what class to roll. I am torn between mage warrior and rogue. I want to be mainly a dpser and like fast gameplay. What is the best option for that? I have heard good and bad things about each class so itβs harder than ever
@devout isle go with your hearts desire. Rogue is always a plus. If you like melee that is. Warlocks are good, as well as Mage. Just all depends on what your feeling. I for one am remaking my 1st toon ever.
Due to very high demand, we will open a new WoW Classic realm for name reservations at 5:00 p.m PDT (8:00 p.m. EDT) today, Wednesday, August 14: Stalagg β PvP β Eastern Time We suggest that players, especially those on the Herod realm, consider creating characters on St...
I wanted to remake my first toon but frankly don't feel like going back into healing so I picked mage
Is there somewhere some decent raid dpc class ranking??
If your class has no DOT you are good
Hello, is there a channel to talk about Theory Crafting for Classic priest ? ^^' Or is it here for the questions ? :p
Theory crafting for classic priest would probably be on a discord that is either classic specific or on a priest forum. You can find the in-depth classic guide on the WoWhead forum and probably talk more about it there too.
@grand citrus what you rolling?
idk
but classic is the best wow has ever been?
Everything before xrealms and the shattering.
yikes. I wasn't saying your opinion was wrong
I was saying it's an opinion
and not fact
yea it isn't a fact
classic wasn't perfect. neither is bfa. anyone saying either is deluded
classic was as close to perfect as wow got
doing shit with my guild, playing new games, and surprisingly also having a life. i ain't got time for that shit
sigh. o p i n i o n
ive left school for the rest of the year to play classic
of course.
hey man just like asmongold says never stop going big dick
i mean most countries have finished school for the year anyway
eh. idk if you are but you're acting like a weak troll so I ain't got time for it
i'm legit not trolling
the only things i disagree with about asmongold is hes ally and he think warrior i the best class
bc shaman is god tier
end of the day, it's another massive timesink and another ok MMO, which would make 3 for me, so I probably ain't gonna have time for it
kite a warrior with a grounding totem and chain lightning his dick
done it before don't need to do it again
what mmos do you play?
ive been playing wow for 11 years
it was my first ever video game and it's been my fav ever since
been playing it for most of my life
I don't think vanilla is perfect
considering it has to be remade to be considerated good
It's being brought back because it's a chance for new players to play the first itineration of wow
not because it was too good
Since Cata because nostalgia
If I was going to say which version of the original trilogy is the best
I'd say WotlK
Wrath beats classic in every aspect
The classes are more stylished in Wrath, it got trashed due the LfG tool
you have an opinion so do i none of us are "right"
but imo wrath and classic are tied for top
I like to split wow into three trilogies
The original trilogy, the revamped, and the modern
everything before cata was amazing and the only thing that was good after that was legion
Eh, never played cata, read that most of the heroic dungeons were hard af
did you play classic?
No
wrath?
Entered on Lk
oh
It's two for me, before they killed community and content/items and after.
well yea if you join on the like second best and never played number one wrath is a good choice
i started at wrath but have been playing classic private servers
since it was literally impossible for me to play classic
You know, with how Blizz is working with Classic atm makes me feel that private servers did it wrong
they did
Im not going to talk about it though
I think the revamp trilogy was kinda nice, except from WoD
i played the original wrath when i was 3 almost 4 my mum taught me how to play instead of having toys i was learning how to play wrath when i was young
so wow is literally my childhood
So @iron kestrel was playing against ToS
Do you think they cared for it
Not really
all ik is I'm not hearing 'classic and wrath were best times' opinion from someone who didn't play classic and was 3 years old playing wrath (also big 
I'm sure this has been addressed already at some point, but does anyone know if classic will have addon support at launch?
You will be able to use your addons.
I'm guessing I'll have to download them again since classic has it's own files?
easy enough then haha XD
I have seen people using ELVUI and Details.
I like customizing where my bars are and if they show and stuff like that. There is a lot of things you can do with a UI. The Blizzard UI can be a bit bulky on small screeens.
There will probably be a classic Elvui
I've reached out to them to see if there's any update on it's development
Shadowed Unit Frames also at launch I've read.
Some have been using Weak Auras, GTFO and DBM. So, there will be tons of addons available.
Was DBM available back with classic?
It's happening!!!!! Thanks for every wow vid you ever uploaded. A special thanks to: https://www.youtube.com/user/Hurricane046 I don't own the music.
gfdi i was watching it before
So what's every one gonna be playing as when classic drops race/class
I'm completely new to Vanilla, in fact I haven't started playing WoW until BFA's release. So I played a little of the stress test and idk why but I feel I'm gonna have alot more fun in classic.
Human mage ez
Human mage and Druid alt
Dwarf Holy Pally
@mossy vortex give it a try get a character to 20 and see how it feels
Human warrior
https://youtu.be/mwd0lbB1XBI on point and funny
Have you ever struggled with a quest and a brave, and possibly bored, random play has come to your aid and helped you out? Well this is what we cover in toda...
Human Paladin >
Samd
Classic guild anyone?
https://youtu.be/pd_4hl1sPyE
Ridiculous ad for a World of Warcraft Classic guild named Solace.
woooo got my names reserved im hyped for the 26th
Tips on how to ask for a free day form work on the 27th?
@native ether tell your boss it's wow classic, ninja loot his car keys and Leroy Jenkins your way out
Have
I'd rather not get fired in the process
Personal stress day?
Food posioning?
Literally anything that sounds convincing?
@coral pasture yes i have been playing against tos since i started at 3
Just some vanilla wow elemental shaman pvp and shenanigans. This is not meant as a display of skills or ''crit'' highlight video, This is just some pvp and f...
elemental unbreakable
I'll be "Working from home" π
what classic servers should I be looking at for normal/pvp with 50/50 ally horde?
was thinking grob but i dont like rp
too soon to tell
things like that gonna balance out after a few months i guess
considering how crappy horde leveling is ..... id say alliance gonna be quite popular π but thats my opinon
I went human mage as well...
With an undead warrior as.an alt
@native ether just ask for it off, you don't have to give a reason
I just want to know if they had a method of figuring this out. How do you know what the numbers are if people haven't been able to log in, thus not having an active character?
So, they didn't get it from Blizzard. That was my question more than anything. They asked their forum member what server and faction they were going to be. That was what I was wondering.
The faerlina discord has almost faction balance
faerlina is also the streamer server
I think they will release the game a few hours early
I doubt that.
They did it with BfA
They have a countdown clock though. I don't think that they had a countdown for BfA. At least I don't recall one.
They had one
but BfA came like....half hour
Tne global cooldown started with BfA
before it was...launching it at 3 am in legion
or 5 pm in WoD
Yeah they did
I think i remember that one
Cause ever1 was asleep lmao
no no like
It was the first time they didn't shot down the servers to apply the expac
Reading @maiden river 's Feral DPS guide, I have two questions from my own recollections of Classic. 1) Isn't the ring Might of Cenarius nearly BiS, due to the +4 Weapon Damage actually affecting the "feral psuedo-weapon"? 2) Does the *Elemental * Sharpening Stone, and only that stone, work?
weapon damage was just a private server thing
Was it? I never played on an unofficial server, and I recall it. Certainly, it ranked second-highest on Tangedyn's old BiS list.
That list tracks the ring as having an effective 56 AP: http://tangedyn.pbworks.com/w/page/19362776/Old Front Page
(web version link is dead, but the excel file still works)
Just been reading through to find some info. I'm not sure I understand why people / the team seem to think Blizzard are going to release items in line with the phases / patches as they were originally. Their only blue post on this (https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/classic-content-plan/120346) suggests to me that it's either pre- or post- 1.10. Is there some info that I'm missing?
Prior to the AhnβQiraj unlock, most of the drop rates and locations will look as they did in the patches prior to 1.10
That could be read in either fashion (you could take 'patches prior to 1.10' as a single entity) and given that they won't change itemisation, it makes me wonder. Is the above all we have to suggest that they're release items phase by phase?
As far as i know all Items Will be in their 1.10 version
Not talking about itemisation, I literally mean for when they will drop
The Place they drop in Is the same as It was pre-1.10
https://classic.wowhead.com/item=18814/choker-of-the-fire-lord <--- an example of what I mean. It says 'Added in content Phase 2', but the post above suggests the only gating for loot is Phase 5 (1.10).
Well from the same It sounds like It drops from Molten core
So If Molten core Is phase 2,then its correct
Can someone explain what is the item thing they talk of in the later phases?
If you die, and cant get to your body or back to the graveyard, is there any way for a mage to respawn
there should be an unstuck button even in vanilla
or
if you cant get to both your body OR a spirit healer,it means you're somewhere weird
so dying of fatigue(while a spirit) could also help
and if there is no unstuck button you can try typing /unstuck in chat or something similar
@fiery vigil
they did
Then he ports you in the sky and you die from falling dmg coz you waste his time with your stupidity
But you are already dead
When the GM rezzes you, they port you to the sky etc
I wonder if classic is going to have GM's visiting you in the game like the old days or if it's going to function like it does on retail.
i wish that was still a thing kinda
Yeah, it must have been neat back then
probably like retail
There are just too many players
That's fair
6:00 p.m. PDT new servers
Hello everyone!! Im new to this community π. I have a question on Classic WoW class trainers. Do all trainers have the same abilities to train? Or do some only train up to a certain level and then you have to find a higher level trainer?
Thank you!!!
I doubt they'll staff real live GMs that would cost too much, sadly
it's going to all be automated CS where the answer is basically "no", whichever was it you were asking
I believe it works like it used to
with the bar to fill
and certain trainers only trained certain recipes and only so high
@tropic hawk
however it has been 15 years if I'm honest
memory ain't so good
1 more week
@abstract copper, i was wondering more about the class trainers and not professions.
So, it's safe to say that if I'm human and i set my hearthstone in Goldshire I should be able to visit my trainer all the way up to 60.
I think so? Don't quote me on that, I could be completely off.
Vanilla was a long long time ago
I know, for some strange reason I feel like some trainers we're only able to get you trained up to a certain lvl. And you would have to go find like a master trainer. But I'm just not sure. I could be crazy haha.
I can't find anything on this online and so it makes me think that I just might be remembering this all wrong.
We'll find out in a week
167 and 10 minutes to go! π
Only trainers in starter zone learn spells/abilites till lvl 6..rest is all in one i think
Slowly
got new names but not sure which server I'll start now; between blaumeux and whitemane
Go with Mankrik.
nope, pst pvp for me
The server Swifty will be on, should be fun.
I don't know what server he is going to be on.
I love whitemane
You can only have 3 characters
I put my 3 on Pagle
Not attached to one or two of them
I made the same Warrior on 2 different servers. Will see
I'm curious if staves actually work for warriors
Because they give... god what is that stat? will? the one that no longer exists
and that's good for warrior levelling
spirit
The ''advanced'' guides state that spirit should be ignored (they refer spreadsheets as their resources) and that agi is way better. As a Human I will always give prio to swords ,but if your race doesn't have a particular buff concerning weapon types a staff which gives high alpha damage and/or STR should be worth upgrading to. Just my personal opinion derived from reading guides.
Spirit Supposedly gives health regen which warriors have trouble with
''I have checked many guides,some mention spirit as a good stat,cause of the health regen it provides'' tried to send this message,but it failed
anyone else excited for the mc rag world first race? apparently method is planning on doing it in about 11 days and itβll be streamed. maybe will listen to that in bg while I do my own (much slower) grind to 60
If speed runners need like 4days for 60 i doubt your 11days sounds legit
I only heard they racing for world first 60
talking elapsed and to kill rag, not just get to 60
4 days played unless you are cheating (2 players on 1 account) is also 8days elapsed
Less than 10 real days is absurd if you ask me. But those guys are pros ,who knows what kinda nifty strategies they have in mind
hey; for 5 man pvp which setup will be meta for horde/alliance ? also how many healers needed for 5 man for pvp ?
What do you mean by 5man PvP ?
5v5
5v5 arenas?
Like in STV?
Did arenas not exist back then?
If I had to pick 3 I'd say MS warrior Holy Pally, Spriest
Nope arena was introduced on TBC
Sorry, I thought it was a given
Oh, well in that case, I've no clue where 5-man pvp would fit into WPvP
Nah, you're good
5 man groups are very good for BGs ,such a group can really make a difference in WSG or AB
@proud canyon
they say Full on some severs but whats gonna be popular on each fraction thats the question
yep. that officially ticks my checklist for 'classic's back my dudes'
Hi I used to play wow stopped around 5 years ago coming back for classic is anyone here from EU and which server are people going on I'm UK I have lots of experience on the game and would like to meet some new people to play with
I am on Pagle
My group is on Pagle π
About 20-30 of us so far
@abstract copper soloing it up??
I'll find people I'm sure
/4 is your friend
I think the issue is that we're all just so connected now
There won't be many stragglers
@fiery moth Horde or Alliance?
@abstract copper we had to go alliance cause we got people playing pallies
I'll think about it
Maybe a night elf warrior, but I don't want to tank.
Since y'all have paladins I assume you don't need healers?
@abstract copper as of rn we have 2-3 Tanks, 6-8 Healers
rest dps lol
the low end numbers are definite
the high end numbers are still people on the fence about spec
but literally fill whatever you want if you were to join us, More people easier to fill for dungeons
UI related question: does our bfa UI carry over to classic? Or gotta build a whole new one? Donβt want to spend the first chunk of time fixing my UI lol
@dapper pendant pretty sure classic is its own folder
soo addons arent installed into it
and most likely any addon up to date for bfa wont work on classic, i know they saidf they were trying to break some addons that make game too easy
Yep,different add ons for Classic,different everything
yea if you open your wow folder, youll see classic and retail
_ classic _
_
classic _
and same with retail
all your current addons are in retail -> Interface -> Addons
your classic -> interface -> Addons is empty
I refuse to use add-ons
Seems a bit silly, going back to experience olden times but bringing a car
@abstract copper So you don't want to be better informed or more efficient?
Absolutely not
fair enough.. Embrace it! You be You!
There was no World of Warcraft in 1994. But seriously.. I was not trying to bust stones.. play the game the way you enjoy it!
what about the addons that worked in vanilla, and them being the exact same versions as back then?
'cause iirc there were a few threat tracking addons or something
There were addons for everything in Classic. The API back then wasn't as restrictive as it is now. From quest helpers to raid timers. The biggest different between now and then, is the understanding in programming that allows for more elaborate types of addons in one specific addon (like ELVUI that can do everything from move frames to count your gold earned this session).
I won't be using anything, I'll use it now just as I did back then.
I don't think that anyone is doubting you on that. You keep saying it.
That video is heartwarming
CTMod, Cosmos, 2005.
"Each of the Full realms has a LOT of characters to the extent that it may be more than can fit into the queue system. As a result, you may not be able to get into the queue" the sky is falling (https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/overcrowded-realm-update-august-21/262141)
a queue so big you can't even join it π
Someone in the comments said that that will just make more people want to join lol
yeah but when comes release time, I want to play, not stare at a "Estimated time in queue 12h" π
my 2nd server after whitemane is the only green one... which worries me in the other direction, as a future dead server
Hey you don't have to worry about a lot of the saved names. I created a character on a realm and I probably won't play it till December or later.
I am sure that there are other people out there that will wait a couple of weeks before they log in also. They reserved names and want to wait till the starting zones calm down. Others want to go into it hard.
is the Wowhead client going to be able to determine that it's running the classic client, or is there going to be a different version for Classic?
The Wowhead Client already has a section for Classic. There's not a separate client for it.
@solar junco There is a button in top middleish section of wowhead that takes you to the classic sector of the site
This may appear obscure, but I started this thread 10 years ago come next Friday. How's the timing of it being just 3 days out from classic's launch?
https://forums.overclockers.com.au/threads/wowstalgia.808350/
Whoβs all playing on Herod in classic
you and 1B people?
Blizz has already asked for the third time for people to move out of Herod and faerlina because they're way too overly crowded
But thats where most streamers are,so people dont care about hourly queues
I'm sticking to Pagle
Hey guys, I have a (maybe controversial) question. What is heating up this immense classic hype? I mean, I do get that people want to enjoy a game they liked 15 years ago - but it is still exactly that, a 15 year old game. Many convenience features are missing and you know exactly what content will be available. On top of that, it costs the same fee as 15 years ago. I simply would love to understand it.
nostalgia, mostly. plus it's added ontop of the same fee we're paying for the current game, so you're not paying for classic independently of retail
This is how you split wow into classic and modern
There are way different things between those two
Classic has the value of leveling each character, while Modern is more focused on reaching endgame as fast as you can
Modern WoW is focused on you playing every single day to stay updated on your aetifact
Which I think is the worst feature between legion and bfa
@neon vault In a word, community. Has nothing to do with nostalgia unless you consider it nostalgic to go back to the game before they made huge design mistakes like CRZ and the Shattering. Defending your leaders, selling your meaningful profession skills on trade or helping your fellow realmmates out in the world. It isn't a mount, pet and toy collecting game.
Legion was fantastic, but focusing on keeping up to date with your artifact was just a good way to get burned out
It's like they are still trying to check on a good progression system
Imo a good progression should be something that isn't linked to a piece of armor
I hate retail wow itβs boring as shit. Like Iβd rather sit on a toilet shitting and play clash of clans or clash royale then play wow. Thereβs no point to it you overpower most of the content by yourself
I donβt know any streamers playing on Herod just the people avoiding the streamers and the game will die out so why not have everyone stacked on one realm
Blizzard should have been prepared. So in their words βyouβre not preparedβ
I don't think you have read the latest interview
They didn't open more realms in purpose at the beginning
I got the questie addon and when i added it to the classic folder during the stress test, it said "alpha" in red text
when i logged in of course
Probably it will be changed on launch
Yea
94 more hours guysss
Shh
I'm looking at an item on wowhead classic. The Naglering and it's stats are different than here: http://web.archive.org/web/20050427050318/http://wow.allakhazam.com/item.html?witem=11669
Allakhazam's Magical Realm is an enormous World of Warcraft database with quest walkthroughs, item lists, a full bestiary, spells, tradeskills, talents, maps and much more all with integrated forums for player discussion.
Does anyone know which one is correct?
10a is unexpected and kinda sucks
I'd love to know the faction ratio of those servers when they come out
No additional servers for OC π
Hey, got a question so I had a few people in my stream say you can use your mounts that you have currently in classic (I know you cant until level 40) but they are saying that all the mounts /pets will transfer to classic also? Does anyone know if that is true
Pets and mounts from BFA will not transfer to classic.
The only things that will be transferring from BFA to classic are the original world of Warcraft collectors edition pets (Mini diablo, Mini zergling and the panda cub)
They're not introducing features/mechanics/content that did not exist in classic.
I will play classic cause I cant play PvP in retail. Alliance lacks in WM presence and I cant find to PvP with. Plus, the extra difficulty of Vanilla will be a nice change. Retail does not need to die,it just needs a break. @neon vault
I like retail wow
I don't like having to log in every day in some vain attempt to keep up
I don't like that my shaman doesn't feel like a shaman
I don't like playing by myself because I don't want to have to put in the work to grind to a higher item level
I don't like being a healer anymore because it has gotten significantly harder and people treat you like shit for their mistakes
The last thing about healers is on point 100%
cant really disagree with the rest either
I mean people have always done that, but retail healing is way way way harder than it used to be
well in fairness bosses had way less shit than they used to do
wait no
...bosses had way less shit than they currently do
yeah
The problem is that people expect you to overheal everything
they dont avoid dmg at all
except for the insta kills and even those sometimes they do not avoid
well that's just dumb players in 2019
which I'm sorry to say are gonna be the same people playing your classic
They don't pay attention
yes but in classic they will have to play
you say that Β―_(γ)_/Β―
we're not going back in time
people have changed and classic will not be the same
in what way, i don't know, but it won't be
It'll be as close as they can get it
Oh I don't deny that blizzard will make the game as close to the original experience as possible
The thing is, people have been breezing through private servers... And then they found out that those servers are actually too hard
But players have changed
Private servers actually had like all of the numbers for enemies too high
(ok yeah point taken but i ain't gonna gt banned for talking about priv servers)
The game was harder than vanilla and people still managed to breeze through it
We were just trash
I'm just looking forward to all the people who got rose tinted glasses
I've legitimately seen people say 'bfa has too much grind, I'll play classic'
bruh if you think bfa is grindy classic will kill you
In Classic people will have to adapt,else they wont be able to do anything significant.
So A they adapt B they quit
Win,win cause either the players get better or only the dedicated ones are left. In B the nuber will be smaller,but we'll manage
Probably how it's gonna go down yeah.
I'm probably not gonna play it cause it's even more of a timesink than current and I ain't about playing 2 time heavy MMOs
i just know there's gonna be fallouts and it's gonna be funny
The thing about classic is that it's grindey, but you don't have to log in absolutely every day and grind for some bs heart
i mean. you don't need to grind azerite
i've never really understood the logic in that
i don't grind azerite and I'm still one of the more capable players in my guild
But you don't need to grind in classic constantly to keep up
You can get endgame gear and just... Stop
You're done
and then there's not really any game, but hey 2006 problems i guess
You can pvp, level an alt, there's always things to do
Idk. People have really latched on to azerite as the villain of all that's good and i think a lot of people overexaggerate the problem
what I may as well add as my footer to every message though is 'neither is perfect, anyone who says otherwise is deluded'
They do, but that's because they want to keep up with the elite because they think that will make them elite
My main problem with retail is that Alliance is almost non existent in PvP
WM on and you are alone,constantly surrounded by Hordes
game changes players don't, as i said. i'd be pleased but very surprised if faction imbalance is better in classic
They only PvP guild I can find want 2k arena rating ,which I can't get to cause I have no Ally friends to PvP with
what does make me laugh is the people wishing 12k queues on themselves because reeeee asmongold
and on that theme the people still saying classic shouldn't have sharding
They are memelords aboard the hype train that's why
When shit hits the fan,you'll see how it goes
Yup. Looking forward to it
Asmongold is a... Wait can't say that word
Can't say that one either
Or that one
Not very bright
I don't have the read of him. I'm sure most of it is an act but he's stuck in an act cause he built a community around that act
mhm
Dunno, for wow I watch Bajheera and Sodapoppin mainly, sometimes Sco
Soda is over 9k skill and tons of fun
Baj is over 9k skill and gymbro
Sco is good,but he is Horde and PvE
I hate azerite :<
Well,it's kinda nice that you have to pick
I don't want to be forced to play every day. I hope blizz finds a better solution than introducing an azerite successor in the next expansion
The whole mmorpg thing is supposed to require you to play daily in order to advance. If you don't you will have to eventually put in the hours,which results in longer subs/more gamecards
It is a way for the company to make profit,it will never change
The more hours you put in the faster it will get there. If you are on a hc raiding guild,you will be able to be fully geared in a few weeks after each patch
you will then have the option to spend your time however you want, grind for rep or do pvp etc
unless your guild requires that you lvl/gear another char,that sucks
mind=blown
I still can't decide whether I want to play holy pala or holy priest :/
just do both xD
Helo
yo
be the best you can be
being a healer is also doing yourself a favor - soo much easiert to find a group and raid
... but I think I actually will play a nightelf priest - but don't tell anyone ...
(sorry)
You can't change people Rocket
If people expect you to be the perfect healer in retail, they will expect that in classic
Also
We also had this same meme when Bfa released
80 hours to go.
I like classic and will be playing it, but people are hyping this up way too much.
I just wish the hype won't kill the game before it can get a proper start.
Understood, but everyone's got their own feels about it.
Of course, and I'm happy people are looking forward to it.
Problem just is that people are hyping up a 15 year old game to such degree it can never live up to the hype.
Yeah it's never going to be exact same, sure, especially since we're starting from 1.12/13 from the get-go and miss out on desired features already removed by then, but in the end, the hype is largely based on satisfaction that we're finally getting, on official terms, what we've asked for.
Iβm debating on whether or not to stay on whitemane or change to bigglesworth
Classic didn't have the tools that retail does which inhibit local player interaction. What makes classic classic is the community
...
Guys do you realize that
If there aren't tools like in retail
People do make them+
?
There is even a looking for group add on done already
I think blizz will ban the LFG add on
There was something like that before pre-made groups in WoD I think
Never got banned
So the
Ya but that would ruin the classic experience for people
People want more QoL
And in the end that man was right
We think we wanted a real classic
But we don't
Not all
Some
I think I want real classic
I will play classic with no add-ons
Same
At leat not in my leveling
@stuck oracle don't post recruitment messages here
@frigid fractal I can't find a relevant channel for what I need. I guess I just can't LFG for Classic in this discord at all?
@stuck oracle you can post these messages in #retail-guild-recruitment-us and/or #retail-guild-recruitment-eu
cough being passive aggressive isn't da wae
@naive falcon Per your question about classic launch times in WoW channel.
I knew the Earth was flat.
@frigid fractal wouldn't those channels be recruiting for that awful xpac BFA - going to kind of need one for CLASSIC
just make mentioning "CLASSIC" or "BATTLE FOR AZEROTH" (or just "BFA"/"RETAIL") something of a requirement to mention at the very start of the guild recruitment message
π
Gotta use the brains
Are Classic Servers up?
When you open the Classic client it says version 1.3 but I understand that it Will run on patch 1.2.. what does that mean in terms of addons
Should we be getting addons for 1.2 or 1.3
@crisp yacht get addons from the usual source. Not those that are for private servers. Curse, the Twitch client etc.
Yea But theres still different versions
I'm assuming bigglesworth is going to have a high alliance population
The client indeed is 1.13, the content is 1.12 however
You should be getting the addons for 1.13
the beta is updating
What beta
classic beta
Makore gets me
awesome news
except if the way they do it it breaks 100s legitimate/ok addons
Yep
Man
ClassicLFG and the topic about the Soul of WoW Classic
These 2 days are going to be epic
hopefully blizzard recants on the random api breakage idea
Classic is getting parched
are you drunk
you do realize classic had addons?
now dumb (popular) lfg addons like that, or weakaura, but it had addons
apparently an unpopular addon in the form of Call to Arms did exist, but I don't know anyone who ever knew it existed
and addons like AtlasLoot are, to me, part of the classic experience. But not addons like classic lfg
Yeah btw classic had addons that literally played the game for you
Healbot and decursive for one
There's a version of decursive in retail now but i dont think it works the same way it did back then
and i thought Healbot was in retail? i dont play healer but i think i remember in legion people were using it, or the one where you just left or right click on the bar and it does a certain heal to whoever it needs
Healbot is the same raid frames API as default. It's just making frames more friendly and informative for healers. In fact you cant customize well raid frames in classic, most people using healbot/grid/etc for better UI, but for now WoW classic using legion API and raid frames is good enough by default.
If anyone on EU Golemagg wants the name Dranosh, it's now free to take
@maiden river decursive for retail, you still have to click on something, with the old school decursive, no clicking, just did it automatically. The retail version lets the caster know who has the ailment. You still have to click on something. That's what blizzard is trying to avoid, the auto stuff.
Yeah i want them to avoid that sort of stuff too
Healbot In classic wow would literally have things to cancel heals if the target was above a certain %
@frigid marlin Wow i didn't notice, this is cheats for sure
Yeah
You could set that to like 0.3 seconds left on the heal, did a bunch of thinking and playing for you
It was silly
All that garbage broke in the 2.0 patch
kinda stupid question, but classic will start at 27.08 at midnight, right after monday or some other hour? talking about eu
It starts at 3pm on the 26th in Los Angeles
Translate that to the time zone of your choice
π thank you
so for me it probably will be 12 cest, thank you again Terryn π
Is it me, or is Vaulty clickbait? His videos on classic WoW use arbitrary number listing, and poor audio editing.
This is on the classic wow reddit
They said they won't allow LFG
Good
so no shit they won't communicate to the guys trying to make an lfg addon
I think you misread. Weakauras is talking about communicating to any addon dev, because none of them have any idea what API Blizz is going to try to restrict
It will be a shame if it disables the 50% of addons
!ironfoe
I think the game should only allow specific addons that blizz oks
didn't know they weren't communicating at all though
what makes you think that blizz has time or inclination to review every addon or limit the creativity of authors?
Apple does it
apple takes 35% of the sales so that gives them some incentive
Apple doesn't let you on their store unless they say so
apple doesnβt host apps with the source code open, and made by volunteers so not sure what your point is (they sell stuff on a store so they want to avoid getting in troubles/bad rep) also blizzard doesnβt host the addons, 3rd party sites do
hello eu gamburgers
anyone know what patch Treant form came to droods?
I don't think you need to be subbed to see it. But as you can't see the version in the dropdown for version selection of WoW - I would raise a question with Blizzard support about this. Also check that your battle.net launcher is up-to-date. Mine is at version 1.15.2.11378 - you can see it in launcher settings at bottom left
Go to Settings in B.net launcher
At the bottom-left you see the version
Humm, then I'd raise the question with blizzard at https://eu.battle.net/support/en/
From all I read you should be able to see it
Wait.. on that page it clearly says:
Access to WoW Classic is available to all players with an active World of Warcraft account. If you lost access to your account, you can recover it here.
So i guess you won't see it unless subbed
Not sure what you mean.. but it says active subscription, which means you have to be subbed (which is an answer to your original question)
i have f2p and it allowed me to install but I also have retail installed
I believe It would work as with retail,so that you can login even if you dont have a sub,but you cant "enter world" aka actually use the characters
yeah, it wont let me login because i dont have sub
but it gets to the login screen and i can adjust settings and what not
i don't see why it wouldnt. But installation should be possible even before.. I think only one who can figure it out is Blizzard Support - why you can't see it at all
Razz, does your bnet launcher say it needs to be updated at the top or bottom?
and right above the play button do you see a box that says World Of Warcraft?
select that, and you should be able to select wow classic
and then the play button should switch to install
I would suggest blizzard support then
what stops you from being able to create a case?
in windows you have "Snip & Grab" as well as "Snipping tool"
those are built in with Windows 10
Im pretty sure snipping tool was in Windows 7 as well
probably yeah, Been a while ago π
there is an option to take a screenshot after a few seconds
I generally click on the Button and really quickly open the drop down for this kind of things
so select Snip in 3, quickly open dropdown and then it will allow you to select the area
are you in EU or US? I assume US as youve selected "Americas"
just checking π in case your account if created for EU
also, which region is your Battle.net client set to?
ok and when you log into battle.net, you selected americas region?
humm, ok.. so it's not that either.. I'm honestly out of ideas now.. Now that you can create a screenshot - are you able to create a support case? π
im actually confused by your "region" dropdown... I don't have that
it can be because you dont have a sub (and never had on that account?)
maybe thats why
Wait.. You never even created a starter edition account
Go to your battle.net account and navigate to games and subacriptions
I assume it will not even show any Wow accounts? There you should be bale to create a starter edition account. It's free for up to level 20.. It's a retail version. After that let's see if your battle.net shows account selection instead of region
Go to https://www.battle.net and then login. Select "view account" under your avatar dropdown
See on the left side games & subscriptions?
Cool
Hehe :) enjoy (don't forget to go and reserve your name already). Now you just need to sub so you have access on the launch date
hey does anyone know how to use jeeves to setup a guild for classic? It's saying Herod is an invalid server
Herod might be locked due to it being full, not 100% on that though.
This is perhaps one of those rare moments where I'm happy to not play on a US server (I'm based in Sydney).
Here n there. Depends on the day and where you are.
It's otherwise a highly politically sensitive issue.
We have the technology, but that's about as far as it gets.
Weβve waited forever but it will finally come outβ¦ Now weβll finally be able to play Classic WoWβ¦ FOREVER!!!! Now for a poem, written by me and performed by ...
I'm beyond ready for tomorrow
Less than 12 hours until character name reservation limit is lifted.
More servers as well if I remember correctly
Yep.
Even Old Blanchy is getting her own server!
shouldnt the new servers be up right now?
it is only 26 so no π
Anyone playing on Herod Alliance dm me
anyone knows what the main English EU server will be
One with the highest queue
Will EU get to play 4 hours before the US realms?
It sounds weird since EU always gets their stuff 12 hours after US
I might be confusing them, since I dont know the 12 hour time thing
Nevermind
Its global
countdown however points to EU 12 at night. Might be a coincidence or the best fitting time
maybe 1, depending on the country to live in
it is 12 for austria, switzerland, germany etc. . . .
which I suppose is something in the morning to NA
Wasnt it 3pm for us
3pm for California, 6pm for New York, Midnight in France.
10 hours til the Great Login Server Freeze!
oh ... btw ... for the alliance!

Totally wanted to sleep in today... Up at 5:30 π¦
Hey, I've never played wow but still want to try classic with some friends. Any important things to know? Also which race and class should I play? My 2 friends are orc warrior and troll priest
- depends on if you want to find success ?
-> yes : watch one of the "how to level up/ be successful/ plan your routes/ set priorities in wow classic" videos
-> no : just go ahead, play and have a good time.
-classes depends, yes, racials were probably more significant back then, but (at least for me), still not a deal breaker. I think dwarf priest looks ugly af, will role night elf. Is it optimal? Hell no! Do I enjoy the game more that way? definitely!
ok
. . . oh but in any case, save up for the lvl 40 mount π
no matter if casual or not, having a mount will boost your enjoyment level significantly
Just after 11pm in Sydney. Name/character reservation restriction to be lifted at 3am, which is in about 4 hours. Going to get some sleep.
If you log in an hour before launch, won't you get disconnected after half an hour?
And have to requeue
Yep
you'll need to requeue not long before, otherwise yeah, you'll time out on the login screen
8hrs for classic btw
π¬ as european i wont even bother logging in before 6am
How bad do yall think que times will be
Launch day.
I joined pvp server
Im looking forward to ganking ppl in low lvl areas
It will be glorious. Im gonna roll a mage first though.....probably should have started with a rogue to gank
Character creation limitation will be lifted in 2.5 hours.
So you can make one then.
Eh, i wanna roll with a mage. Never played a mage
I just play ele shaman on current wow
@white jungle What is glorious about ganking low lvl people?
I find it enjoyable
So you find ruining other peoples experience enjoyable?
Not ruining. Its a pvp server
Yes, but how exactly is one shotting low level people proper PVP?
Im sure i will be ganked. But i dont mind.
You know what they say about gonkers
kills oposition makes his server 1sided
It doesnt ruin my experience
Yes but when you gank lowbies it ruins their experience
What eu servers is everyone playing on?
RP all the way.
MMO-Champion.
Realm ? @sturdy trench
There's only one RP realm in EU. Can't remember it's name right now.
Only one in NA too





