ok ok
#classic-wow
idle kite
oblique folio
Why is everyone so adamant that people do not talk to each other on retail WoW?
maiden river
They won't talk as much as they did in real classic
oblique folio
won't is different from don't
idle kite
well.. cuz you dont really need to unless you are doing hc or mythics
maiden river
Who needs to talk to find Mankriks wife when you can check wowhead
idle kite
lfr or normal is really no point in talking
oblique folio
You should attend my guild raids then
no one shuts up there during our normal progression
maiden river
I think he means pugs
oblique folio
I already addressed pugs
maiden river
Ppl talk in guild runs
fair karma
'Get your ass out of the fire George'
idle kite
lol
oblique folio
you don't need to hold a consistent conversation to get raid mechanics out
maiden river
Odd groups go right...
oblique folio
Plus if you already put the plan out before the pull, why repeat it and distract people during the fight?
idle kite
ok
oblique folio
Which also may interrupt the tanks as they call out for swaps
oblique folio
Which wing is currently out?
idle kite
actually not sure... the 2nd one?!?!
how many does this tier have?
3 or 4?
found out i still have a token available
need to use it when that drops
back in my day blizz would give out 7 days free comeback gifts
now... nothing 😦
oblique folio
Why not get into a real progression guild and prove yourself wrong on people not being social in this game? :x
instead of being content on just LFR
idle kite
dont really have the time... and dont really want to get too burned out on wow until classic drops...
damn work is taking up all my time
oblique folio
Well hey, you are the exact type of person LFR is geared towards
idle kite
ironic... if you dont work you dont have money to game, if you work you dont have time to game... the endless loop of annoyence
so true
fair karma
I mean
You can buy time with gold
So the game can be your job
idle kite
lol
yeah... and food... just gone sit cuz my spirit is soooo high
old purepwnage pun
oblique folio
Enjoy still not having that time during classic and no way to see the end game content of it.
maiden river
No time for play
idle kite
oooo im going to sleep like 2-3 hours a night when that drops
prob will take my laptop to work and play there as well
need to scratch that itch
maiden river
Enjoy getting fired
idle kite
:))
maiden river
It's just a game, play when you can, don't make your life difficult
idle kite
all things eventually come to an end
its just a transition job... it blows
really need to find something better
ooo well... im out.. talk to you guys later.. peace
oblique folio
twas a bit unnecessary there Mak.
ebon dock
I wonder if blizzard will screw up classic
grizzled juniper
cant screw something that was born liek dat
oblique folio
Classic was already broken as a game from the start. So you can't really break it even more. @ebon dock
acoustic lynx
green folio
Wow
You don't have to experience end game content. You are not entitled to see the content. You buy the game for the Journey not to have instant access to everything
Also Classic is not screwed from the beginning either. Just because you believe it's the most "broken game" does not mean it's actually broken. Plenty of people believe live is broken
grand citrus
the 'not entitled to see the content' argument is fair
but what was the figure on how many people ever saw naxx?
as I recall it was below 10%. that is a bad thing. there is such thing as taking it too far
oblique folio
@green folio I see you're one of the gatekeepers who will state that people should be punished for having jobs and no time to actually raid despite wanting to see that end game content.
Also, Vanilla WoW was a legitimately broken game. Just because you refuse to acknowledge it doesn't change the fact that not only did the game have to get remade from the ground up in the middle of its lifespan, but that certain classes and specs legitimately just didn't work.
Also, LFR doesnt' grant instant access to everything. Nor does LFD. It's baby level gear that gets you to at least see the bosses and content you're missing out. If you believe this shouldn't exist, then well. I refer to my first statement. It has nothing to do with entitlement.
unique quail
@oblique folio LFR LFD would be fine if they didn't have gear specifically for the LFR version. And if it wasn't individualized loot instead of the way it used to be.
oblique folio
I have no idea what your complaint is exactly.You'd wait an extra 2 months just to get all the LFR gear when you could have the heroic version of it all?
As the LFR wings don't open up all at oncelike they did in Cata and MoP
and they're not entirely useless to do like in WoD
unique quail
It's not a complaint
it's an opinion
i just liked it better that way and enjoyed it more
oblique folio
A complaint is an opinion. They're not mutually exclusive.
In which, I still don't entirely understand what it is your opinion is about.
Are you missing how it was in WoD?
oblique folio
So you don't want to continue playing the game and continue to earn stuff on your main?
oblique folio
So then. What's the issue exactly? I personally don't mind the Mythic+ group of peeps existing when all I do is raid.
unique quail
but i do it because i've invested around 12 years of my life into this game
unique quail
Why are you so passive aggressive?
unique quail
can't we have a conversation without you saying things like "you're not special." when did i ever say i was.
fair karma
Lol
Progress is a good thing. I don't understand people who don't like improvement.
oblique folio
You wantd to make yourself be special because of your time investment
unique quail
No i was using it as context for my opinion
oblique folio
That you shouldn't have to deal with all this extra ways of getting gear. that you're entitled to it.
oblique folio
I didn't actually.
unique quail
i play it out of love for the lore
oblique folio
I didn't once ask why you kept playing
unique quail
"So you don't want to continue playing the game and continue to earn stuff on your main?"
oblique folio
I simply asked if you wanted to stop playing. As without Mythic+ and mythic difficulty, you hit an end
unique quail
you type faster than i can get my answers out
oblique folio
you no longer play and earn..
unique quail
Exactly
unique quail
No i don't want to stop playing wow
unique quail
what do you mean hit an end?
oblique folio
You no longer have any upgrades waiting for you.
No more gear needed.
Nothing left to progress
unique quail
i get the newest xpac get max level get whatever i can out of the story. and hop back on just to do first tier raids.
and then i stop till next xpac
i haven't really delved into the expansions since WotLK
oblique folio
So what changed then? Why hate on Mythic Diffculty raiding (Which btw, Mythic difficulty raiding is literally old Heroic raiding from Wrath of the Lich King. Also knownas Hard Mode.) and mythic+ which allow you to keep earning gear and progressing a main character?
unique quail
i LOVE the warcraft lore. I really just play retail now to feel part of that world.
All i really care to say is that i miss the community aspect of wow
oblique folio
And that's fine, but the community aspect hasn't disappeared. It's evolved.
unique quail
old community aspect
maiden river
Community here, how ya doin?
unique quail
It's evolved into shit imo
oblique folio
We're in discords now, communities in game, guilds, etc. It's up to each of us to want to uphold it rather than it being forced down our throats like some massive cock.
maiden river
That's hurtful
unique quail
and i don't mean the people playing it are shit
unique quail
I think i'm miscommunicating what i'm trying to say
I see what you mean and i agree
oblique folio
You miss the community aspect of the game. I imagine that means talking in the various world chats in each zone.
unique quail
about the community evolving
there are different platforms that you can join in on their community
oblique folio
The world defense chat actually mattering for PVP and such.
unique quail
That's not the whole point but that fits in with it
maiden river
Emo DH not helping when alliance attacks my dock is World Defence
unique quail
I liked that servers weren't merged. and when you still couldn't fly in azeroth
that's why i like classic and tbc
the most anyway..
maiden river
I don't think RP servers are merged
oblique folio
Servers not being merged I can understand.
and yea the RP servers are only merged with each other or not at all. So those still exist.
unique quail
I just miss that you could log in and there is that one guy on the server who's the master enchanter that everyone knew, etc. You know what i mean?
oblique folio
I do. But that hasn't disappeared on say, my server of Drenden.
maiden river
Buy enchantments from AH
oblique folio
There's quite a few trusted names for professions. Hell, on RP servers there's actual competition and business espionage.
unique quail
And i think that implementing flying in anywhere but outlands was a mistake
oblique folio
IMO
Flying was a mistake
in general.
It should never have been introduced into the game
unique quail
I mean it made sense for outlands because of the world design for the area
in a way
oblique folio
You can design the world differently for lack of flying though.
unique quail
but i agree
oblique folio
Is my point
unique quail
i don't think that flying should have been implemented either
maiden river
I liked when mage utility was usefull
oblique folio
But at the same time
I do really enjoy beingable to zip around old content
¯_(ツ)_/¯
unique quail
well yeah because now you have it lol
oblique folio
I like the pathfinder system they came up with.
It's keeping hte world alive for most of the expac and then you can zooma round it when the world just becomes irrelevant.
unique quail
yeah
my biggest complaint with retail is that there really isn't enough time to do everything before the next xpac comes out
oblique folio
2 years is both a lot of time and so little isn't it?
unique quail
and as someone who is working on 100% All The Things.. this bothers me xD
I
I'm a completionist
maiden river
Maybe complete pathfinder and you get no daze
unique quail
i wish they'd implement progressive servers
oblique folio
Honestly I don't want that. Rather, what I want was a tested theory for some old private servers that are defunked now.
You make your character in an old Vanilla server, transfer it up.
unique quail
What's that?
oblique folio
You can choose what expac to keep a character in.
unique quail
yeah that's what i mean. And when you're ready and if you want you can switch them to next xpac
oblique folio
Which is what Everquest does IIRC
maiden river
Would stay in tbc
unique quail
If only pandaria didn't have pandas cries i miss the warrior pvpv
i despise pandas lmao
as a playable race
maiden river
Who likes pandas
fair karma
Pandas are valid and people can fight me on that
maiden river
They are, I just don't like them
desert verge
they'll be extinct soon enough
oblique folio
they've been in this games story and lore since 2002.
maiden river
Chen appeared in rexxar campaign back in the frozen throne
maiden river
^
maiden river
Pandas have cool lore
plucky glade
Pandaria will always remain my favorite worldspace
idle kite
pandaland.. the last exp i raided seriously... damn that heirloom garrosh grind... good thing it was a cool fight
wind shoal
might be stupid question, but anyone knows anything when classic comes out ? as it was mentioned that comes out this summer, but then i have some weird memory of something coming out in march. But that might be just my imagination tbh.
low wedge
not anytime soon
green folio
@oblique folio Don’t brand me as anything thank you very much.
oblique folio
Then don't brand me as anything.
green folio
I never did?
oblique folio
Sorry, your entitlement comment towards me when nothing really entailed that felt it was more aimed at me.
Labeling me as entitled. In a conversation with someone else.
green folio
I never labelled you as entitled. You chose to label yourself as that
oblique folio
I'm not hte one who brought hte term and tagged someone into the conversation.
So.
green folio
I just said that nobody is entitled to experience all the. Content, you don’t buy the game to instantly have all the gear
oblique folio
You don't instantly get gear though. At least, not in the conversation I was having.
and I wasn't stating that anyone IS entitled to getting to that contentin the conversation eitehr
green folio
You took it to a personal level and I tagged you so that would understand that you can’t just label people.
oblique folio
You're the one who wanted to tag me in the first place :v
In which, you do fit your tag so far. Since it sure sounds like you would want to tell people who do buy the game aren't allowed to experience all of it for whatever reasons they end up having in real life.
green folio
I did just then but not from my pervious comment. You tagged me and called me a gatekeeper
You are allowed to experience all of the game
oblique folio
But you just said we're not entitled to it.
green folio
People just need to put more time into it throughout the year, like spread out over time. Rather than very quickly all together
You’re not entitled to gain instant access to everything
That has been my point from square one
green folio
But alot of people assume when they buy the game they should
oblique folio
We haven't stated that. or even brought tha tinto the conversation
so why shove that in?
green folio
We were talking about people getting into raid content?
green folio
Ah I see the confusion
I was referring to the earlier conversation where Nax was mentioned and that. Not everyone will experience it.
Even so, my comment was still on topic to Alexxi thing
oblique folio
Honestly, now that I put some real thought into it
most people should getinto Naxx
and get instant access to it
cuz people get carries
green folio
Why?
oblique folio
There's no artifical gate oftimefor when Naxx is relevant content
since the reason that Naxx was so barely touched was because BC was coming out literally a few months after Naxx was released
green folio
That is why Naxx will most likely have higher than 10% of people going through it in classic
oblique folio
Correct. Most people will have access to it I wager.
green folio
Also with carries I will never understand why people buy their way into content.
oblique folio
In addition to things like Wowhead, the internet being so much more accessible, better communication programs, better computers, better understanding of the game mechanics
They're the ones who just want to buy everything rather than earn it.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
green folio
Or why people will sell it, well I do know why they sell it but I think it’s wrong
If you put in the time, no matter how many months/years you will be fine
maiden river
WTS Naxx 700g
green folio
You will get there
maiden river
I agree
oblique folio
Cuz things are "so much more difficult" back then.
green folio
elisits*
oblique folio
They aren't really elists anymore. they're just the pros.
green folio
They’re not so much more difficult in terms of mechanics
maiden river
The mobs were more difficult to beat though
green folio
^
oblique folio
Yea
green folio
They just hit harder
oblique folio
mechanical difficulty
maiden river
Actually had to use polymorph
maiden river
Pull 3 mobs in world and you ded
green folio
Like killing a mob 1 level higher than you is hard
maiden river
3 Lvl 13 mobs can kill a lvl 17 player
oblique folio
That's not an opinion. that's a hard fact backed up by numbers
Now arcanes situation I can understand a bit better and even accept
but a level 49 not being able to kill a level 50
that's just stupid
maiden river
I'm not sure how op lvls are in PvP though
oblique folio
BUt it's not. The difference is backed up by hard data
As a level 49 character, you are effectively less than 1% less powerful than a level 50 character.
green folio
But it is, no matter how hard you argue
green folio
I am hearing you, you’re saying that numbers = fact
oblique folio
You're not though
maiden river
A lvl 50 mob if it gets close to you as a lvl 49 mage can take out half your health
oblique folio
That's more understandable arcane
green folio
If the world was like that then we would have problems
maiden river
You can still kill it
green folio
Anyway cya
oblique folio
Did he just say that if numbers = fact then we would have problems?
maiden river
Idk, was a bit confused, just stating what I know
green folio
I meant numbers as in people not stats
my point was that if people all agree on something. It does not make it a fact, it is only a popular opinion
oblique folio
But my point I was bringing up wasn't some collective opinion on the matter.
idle kite
des shhhh... stop bulling the man 😂 naxx is only for uber turbo neckbeard nerds. perioud. 😬
😂
which i am a proud member off.. maybe... not really.. just have the beard
spark moat
When comes classic
hexed finch
summer
idle kite
so who will roll what come classic? and what region? me... pala for ret but will prob heal/tank EU... you guys going for hibrids as well or the tax is too high?
idle kite
uuu nice pick. fastest lvling class and solo farming goodness. i just am too lazy to focus on the pet happiness mechanic... its really annoying
idle kite
why ashenvale?
oblique folio
That's the only thing I want out of classic.
oblique folio
I just want my old night elf areas so I can just get to have a taste of what it was to actually love a race that had teeth.
idle kite
i really want to get corrupted ashbringer on my pala and walk like a boss in SM and see that scenario play out
oblique folio
wolf knows what I'm about
idle kite
and maybe thunderfury and sulfuras... everything is pala weapon
fair karma
Before they got fkin defanged
idle kite
but maybe thats just me 😂
fair karma
Heh
oblique folio
not excited about going back to the old models.
fair karma
Yeaaaahhhhh
I'm gonna make my original crew just cuz I can but I don't know how much I'll actually play, much like you
I miss that pre-cata content but do not miss that pre-cata look
Ah man
Seeing Auberdine again
oblique folio
that's going to be great.
fair karma
Plz rebuild Auberdine in Live, Blizz
Please please please
oblique folio
Seeing the maybelesbiancouplemaybenot sentinels again
fair karma
😭
oblique folio
The gay was to powerful to kill so they had to get deleted
oblique folio
Canon right there.
unique quail
Hello! Anyone on?
oblique folio
I mean yea.
oblique folio
not really
maiden river
When could i buy classic and does that need a game time too?
unique quail
@maiden river Classic doesn't have a release date as of yet i don't think. But it will require a subcription to play
The sub will go along with retails sub. They will be together.
maiden river
So if i buy normal game time to nows wow, is classic gonna get time too?
unique quail
well if you get retail game time now it wont give you classic
you're gonna have to wait for classic to release @maiden river
maiden river
Yeah i understand that one
maiden river
Thanks bro
unique quail
np
In the meantime, if you're trying to play vanilla, Search google for Elysium wow.
Free alternative until blizz classic
@maiden river
unique quail
No problem. Just a suggestion. I'm playing Elysium and i'm having a blast. BFA got boring for me
maiden river
I don't think it's a advertise, it's just a suggestion for getting ready to classic
oblique folio
that is exactly what advertising is
faint tapir
^
idle kite
and not getting burned out on pservers before classic is even released is even a more important point in not going the pserver way right now
its just a few more months... dont spoil it for yourself
hexed finch
You forgot that most people that started in the last 2 expacs have 0 patience
thorn canopy
Advertising the dodgiest private server as well somehow makes it even worse 
faint tapir
maiden river
@hexed finch Ehhhh, that's me btw
bright root
Eeeew, pservers still arent in perfect condition.
For example blizz devs said on meeting with elysium guys: your onyxia Flame is totally wrong, its not how u think etc.. Soo.. Loot of things and theorycrafting small changes to count
hexed finch
also i have personally observed on elysium in particular
that a lot of quality of life things
are intentionally left out of the game/not coded
and some things are just coded like ass like some sidequests
bright root
And im also interested what happend to "vanilla pservers" after classic will be released.. Just for curious
hexed finch
well,i guess broke people will still play them?.or people who already have invested too much time
if blizzard do classic the right way the sub will be worth it over the free pservers
just for the improvements and overall stability etc
thorn canopy
I think the best part of Classic servers for me is not having to deal with dodgy dev teams (see the Elysium/Lights Hope drama as reference)
fading scaffold
@thorn canopy Exacly , No one shall log one day just to find that the realms are offline for no reason. Unfortunately I've lost two accounts of private servers just because of greedy drama like the Elysium one 😢
oblique folio
It wouldn't be for no reason tho.
fading scaffold
Hey guys are there any predictions for the launch day for the legacy servers ?
thorn canopy
They'd keep Classic servers running until the plug was pulled on WoW overall, which is a very, very distant time away from now
idle kite
july 16th... going to stick with that one
thorn canopy
There's a belief that it'll be July 16th, but nothing official - just a bit of speculation going around
fading scaffold
Hmm, but what is the origin of this rumour ?
thorn canopy
oblique folio
Some person on some forum somewhere extrapolating that because the trailer showed a name of a famous player who did something on july 16th in Classic
bright root
@idle kite back to your question.
Im aiming to 39 enha, roug, maybe drood fot STVietnam .. And 29 sham.. And also lot of 1/5/9/10 twinks.. Maybe some lvl of paladin. Propably 9 and bullying Razor Hill.
1lvl troll hunta one/two shoting ppl in elvin 🤔 FeelsAmazingMan 
And main propably feral or ehna as 60 both for dps/offtank or 5man tanking and utility char
idle kite
lool a lot of twinks... you master twinkerer😂
bright root
I just like be different ;D same with mains.. Unpopular stuff
smoky yew
Will 2 hand enh be a thing. Or was that earlier times
bright root
Early was op and WF can proc from WF proc :D But not in 1.12..but still i can see that fun when 1/2 HP cloth just dissapear ;) and will play it no matter what.
smoky yew
I thought 1.4 is when they changed that ;\
bright root
Dunno when, but sure not work like proc from proc from proc to proc 😂 in 1.12
But still it will be fine.. And sure blacksmithing for axe via thorium brotherhood for that sweet debuff for casters.. And hand of justice :3..and i will love 39 IK beast twink
smoky yew
How funny would it be if classic isn’t actually a standalone. Instead it is the next retail expansion. We are going back in time to fix all the shit we messed up because Azeroth is already screwed. #collusion
marsh blade
Anyone know how we can use classic tooltips for our own site?
vernal kettle
Classic Tooltips work, just make sure the subdomain is pointing to classic.wowhead in your URL's and not www.wowhead
cerulean briar
Wow didn’t know there was a speculated release date
cerulean briar
Idk that doesn’t seem like a coincidence
grand citrus
release dates have been rumoured for years
unless I've missed something, there's literally no factual basis
idle kite
well its been rumoured for a long time to be released in 2025 to 2075... its more specific that the date popped out within the promised summer timeframe. the ones before were jokes... this one is plausible at least, thats why people lean on it so much
could be wrong 100%... but its a possibility of being the actual date
hexed finch
even the person who wrote the wow diary book(and worked on actual vanilla) but isnt working at blizz anymore,estimated a 2020 release
idle kite
i know johns 2020-2021 release assumption... but thats based on old ways of creating games... thats why we are actually getting it sooner then that... cuz the workstyle is more streamlined
but seeing as he hoped for a 2 months fullfilment plan on the wow diary kickstarter rewards and still not having gotten it... he prob is not the best to take into account when time frames are discussed. no offence john if you are reading this... but its the truth
and the main part is... its fun to speculate possible hidden easter eggs.
but yeah 3 to 5 months still to go most likely
hexed finch
well,he does express all the details of WHY the 2months fulfillment hasnt worked out
idle kite
hopefully we get more info on the specific date soon ( not soon TM as blizz pointed out) cuz i need to plan my vacation around that date. hopefully i can take the whole month or at least 3 weeks out of the total year vacation days
hexed finch
i ge a kickstarter update from him like 2 times a month
idle kite
i get them too..... saddly still no book. prob mine got lost in the mail system
hexed finch
one person said that his book arrived in time at the post office,and then got stuck there in the mail system for 2 months
xD
idle kite
thats why i hate national mail systems... they suck cuz they rely on customs personel taking their sweet ass time check the packeges.
i got a monitor from south korea on ebay... if got from south korea to my country in 2 days since i placed the order... got stuck in customs for 4 weeks
it got from one continent to another faster then packages get from town to town and the damn customs screwd me over
so i can understand the issue
but it still sucks and i am frustrated that i still have not read the book 😣
hexed finch
well,i only buy stuff from either amazon or trusted sites in my country
so i dont get these problems e.e
idle kite
at least with the monitor i had a tracking nr so i could see where it was
smoky yew
Do you think going 2h enh in classic will be fail? I don't remember exactly when it was no longer realistic to do that patch wise.
bright root
No, i dont say that.. Its still good and fun.. But u must play well for being accepted for raids.. Same as retry and another hybrids..
And will be tuned.. Not like fresh vanilla when WF proc procing from proc to another proc
Then blizz added 2/3 sec internal CD
Btw 39 rogue can have tidal charm.. Another stun for his Arsenal to terrorise STVietnam
granite mesa
Morning, Ive been trying to decide what healer to go in classic, cant decide between druid, shaman/holy paladin or if i should try out priest. I need a 2nd opinion. I like all 4 healers, but since I never played a healer in vanilla I cant really make up my mind.
shrewd solar
You know what made classic so classic
You could get lost in the world
It was unexpected
idle kite
if you like spam healing get pala... if you want more tactical healing get priest... if you like crapy healing pick druid... if you like to be totem dependand go shamy
idle kite
did you play in vanilla? or on a p server(even though it doesnt count)? you max bring 1 or 2 for the buff,combat rez and inervate.. cuz the heals are not that great. even in 5 mans you will have a harder time with a druid.
they are there more for the utility spells not the heals
its rare to find such a good player to top the charts with a druid
idle kite
lol
granite mesa
@idle kite when I started vanilla I played a hunter up until mid/late tbc, that's when I first started to main healer until now. never touched private servers
Hmm so dudus were that bad, that's a shame.
granite mesa
I don't think paladins weren't that bad, I remember them being buff bots tho when they had a duration of 3min before they fixed that
hexed finch
holy paladins are even worse,since theres no plate gear with intellect
e.e
also "tank" meant automatically "protection warrior" in vanilla
just like how LFR means freeloot now
granite mesa
That I know. I wasnt sure how healers were in vanilla. Gonna be interesting tho. If my man decides to join me in the vanilla world. I am most def going healer and if not, I am not gonna go with a hunter again, although they have the easiest time. Just sucked that you had to spend so much on ammo and pet food. Lol might as well try something else.
hexed finch
i believe theres some academic study somewhere where females are more likely to choose healers or "support" roles more than males
but i might be misremembering
granite mesa
This is a fact
I am dreading the lbrs spam for the key to ubrs lol
Great source of gold tho
hexed finch
i believe one of my fondest memories of vanilla was actually achieving one full run of Blackrock depths in one session
jesus that dungeon took hours
hexed finch
cough dire maul cough
hexed finch
i have proven that a 2man group of prot warr and a priest/sham/decenthealer can do questing no problem up to 60,
but i,as a person who is not a masochist,would rather not self-inflict incredible pain of inconvenience again
granite mesa
I level in healing specc since tbc
hexed finch
also,we got classic news boiz,sorry to interrupt your statement,lady.
https://www.wowhead.com/news=290629&webhook/staggered-classic-content-update-six-phases-up-from-four
granite mesa
Gonna be interesting to see if I can pull it off in vanilla, because it's more interesting that way
Ohoo
bright root
Noice.. They really hear us..
hexed finch
🤔
smoky yew
I’m going priest and being the Power Infusion bot
idle kite
yup really nice news right there... hope we get more info like this soon.
idle kite
hmmm seems odd how frequent classic news comes nowadays... kinda every 5-6 days or so. are we that close to the release or is the hype train starting a little too early. hope its all for good and the release comes sooner rather then later.
green folio
I just think they have answers now. While before they were figuring things out
thorn canopy
Any thoughts on if we’ll get a bunch of Classic news (alongside the Warcraft 1 and Warcraft 2 on GoG announcements) at PAX East, or is that too optimistic?
idle kite
prob not
green folio
Maybe not on Classic, but possibly WC1 and 2
pulsar inlet
Is this true?
pulsar inlet
Sorry I didn’t see that
vagrant cove
I want it to be just how it was back then. Id be ok if they fixed all bugs. Also hope they dont allow heirloom gear.
granite mesa
@crude stone Hunters would rejoice
crude stone
lol
granite mesa
I mained one in vanilla, I can say that I never had alot of gold due to ammo + pet food
OH and the moments you forget to restock and run out of said ammo
idle kite
hahaha... ammo. what about locks and their soul shards that took up bag space cuz it would not stack and needed to actually kill mobs in a specific way to get them.
hexed finch
druids with seeds
priests with other reagent for levitate i forgot
paladins with seals
granite mesa
Warlocks and hunters I think had it worse. The reagents for the other classes weren't to expensive. Hunters also had to feed their pets lol
maiden river
Rune of Teleportation
bright root
#fishingsavemypets
quartz dome
I had fishing exclusively to feed my pet. Generally.
bright root
Its also great source of incom gold.. Chunk and stuff from wreckages on AH (bolds, learher etc) can help on first char
dusty knoll
i have a, maybe, a stupid question, the discipline Priest work in PvE in Vanilla or just is for PvP?
idle kite
well you kinda do half disc half holy for pve... no point in going full holy... the angel form after death is pretty useless
so i guess it does kinda work
teal walrus
The most efficient builds were almost always mixtures; there was no clear cut disc/holy/shadow back then like there is now. Like for leveling a 'holy' priest, you'd typically first take 11 in shadow to begin with to have more mana. Or, if you had several druids in the raid around at least Naxxramas/AQ, only one could be efficiently hotting anything, and the rest were basically just dispel bots, so for dispelling, you'd go 30 points in feral and only 21 to resto to have a bigger mana pool. You'd still be called a resto druid, though, and hang out with healers 😃
thorn canopy
Tbh I quite like how you’re not tied to your spec in vanilla so much as retail - it always bothers me when I’m playing a mage and can cast only frost spells (especially if I get frost locked), although I get why specs evolved so much overtime
bright root
Ye, in vanilla u play CLASS not spec
thorn canopy
Yeah, feels better for the whole class fantasy thing to me as I don't see why a mage would only be able to cast frost spells
grand citrus
Priest works a bit better in that respect
teal walrus
I agree. I can understand the reasons they changed things, but I still don't like it as much as the old way.
torn radish
Yea you can create your own hybrid spec with talents, which gives you more creativity
grizzled juniper
Cant believe people are crying over the usage of 1.12 AV in a game based on 1.12
idle kite
well i guess they are "crying" cuz there wont be those long 24+ hours games cuz its in the patch that you can kinda just rush the bosses and be done with it.
maiden river
Was there anybody that actually enjoyed those stalling fests?
tiny nymph
classic fanboys, of course. dunno who else, 'cause I wasn't playing back then
maiden river
I played back then and I also experienced a few of these lengthy BG's.... Most if not everybody in chat was complaining about it taking so long to end
idle kite
but that bg has quests, mining and herbing nodes, pvp battles, bosses to summon besides the end boss to kill to finish the bg
if people just rush the end bosses the rest of the content is nulified
if you want to grind ranks av is not the bg.. wsg and ab is. if you want a long chill tug of war type place where any noob could contribut with something av would be for you
thats why the "fanboys" want that back
digital arch
It’ll be great raiding in Classic aswell. Starting in Molten Core with the tier 1 set
hexed finch
then you realize the height of difficulty for mechanics is "move away from group"
and the raids are easier than LFR difficulty,sure the fact elemental resistances are a big factor and one shot you if you dont have the gear is a valid point,but as a respectable raider you were expected to have that gear anyway
a big big portion of why vanilla raids were hard back in vanilla,could be split into 2 simple facts "people were very new to wow's style of MMOs" and "literally half the group was actual dead weight"
idle kite
so your point is... yeah dont have a variety of people, good and relatively bad mechanicly, stoic and funny, who talk all thr time and those that talk rarely cuz they are dead weight. yeah and i wonder why the current raid group is so abrasive and people are kicked from groups for the smallest mistake. it was a fun comunity of people that wanted to play together, not just min max to no end. sure in pservers those min maxing types of people really gather and do speed raid runs in 20min... but they are so few. the point that i wanted to make is... because of the leeway in skilled people needed, a bigger more divers group of people used to gather in raid groups, making things more fun cuz of random banter and funny situations.
hexed finch
i believe you're overexaggerating my words and have been only in pugs recently,banter and funny situations have always been there in raiding from then to now(if you are in a guild),and minmaxing is made only by mythic or top guilds(or some tryhard pugs),most guilds are just in it for the raid with guildies itself
idle kite
when a specific dude always dies to a specific mechanic it begins to be a meme... aaa so and so strikes again, or oo classic x situation etc. in oppose to again did you die, one more time and we find a replacement cuz you are dragging the group down.
hexed finch
i'm just saying that raiding as a system on its own,has grown a ton from what it was,and so "great raiding" isnt really an accurate metric since if you put the same exact group of heroic casual guild through molten core or a current raid,you will get the same banter and funny situations
idle kite
only in the end of legion and bfa i was not in a dedicated raiding group.. and more often then not things got really serious and close to breaking thr guild at specific boss walls
hexed finch
but molten core will be significantly easier
idle kite
so... i have been in my fair share of guild compositions... from social to hard core min maxy guilds
hexed finch
it sounds like your view is skewed by bad personal experiences,people got really serious and break the guild at boss walls in vanilla too
idle kite
the newer the exp... the harder it is one thr guild group
hexed finch
theres many bosses in vanilla that have the title of guildbreakers for a reason
you're saying things like they didnt happen in vanilla as well
idle kite
you got me there... but those usually are min maxy guilds from my experience
hexed finch
a problem that is only getting recognition now is that some "heroic casual guilds" get too fed on their egos and act like super serious tryhards when the reality is much worse
icy steppe
when will classic come out ?
idle kite
july 16th presumably... not really... maybe... no idea really😂
icy steppe
never tought i'd say it in my whole life
when will the very first version of wow
come out
bruh
maiden river
I m so happy i could cry
low wedge
Wtf
maiden river
Vanilla class race combos?
faint tapir
fun fact: There is actually a green checkmark under tauren rogue. It's just so good at stealth that you can't see it.
bright root
Yas, famous tauren rogue kick what stop casting and crush casters spine
idle kite
lol taurens as rogues... those need to he pretty big ass bushes for him to be able to hide behind. to me even orcs are to big to be a rogue....
tender viper
But Tauren are made of hide.
idle kite
lol
maiden river
Or maybe an optional classic progression with classic systems being constant
steep ridge
I hate the 'let's make every level 20, regardless of class, do a shadowfang keep run, and the level 50 blackrock depths run is the same. Why? The same complaint for some professions, you need a book to level your profession, let's force you to do a dungeon. Classic WoW never did that. Guilds are more or less dead now, they took so much off us
granite mesa
I miss the "community" side of things way back in vanilla, now its "queue, complete, leave" move on
cant wait for that to be a thing again, even with the sharding
trim ocean
Did you really make so many more friends then?
granite mesa
its not about making "friends" really
trim ocean
More talking?
steep ridge
It's more to do with guilds helping their members with stuff, organising raids or dungeon runs, things were done as a group and people who were higher level helped the newer players to find their feet more. But the quests were less hold your hand and nothing was taken for granted. A hunter didn't get a pet till level 10, and had to tame 2 others before their main one. I think one was a spider from what I remember for mine. Druids had form quests, the aquatic one was a pain, but the others were OK. You had to work for things and that made the game more enjoyable. People enjoyed the journey to endgame, rather than powering through and getting there. It was more about the questing and less about the lore
granite mesa
@steep ridge Yep pretty much
maiden river
Community in realms were better
granite mesa
you werent just a "number/member" in guilds back in the day
maiden river
Classes felt more unique
granite mesa
Yep
steep ridge
and the different talent trees meant you could specialise more you could pick and choose between the other talent trees as well as your own, and who decided to get rid of mark of the wild, one of the best druid buffs FFS
granite mesa
Yea I dont know why they would remove mark of the wild from druids
steep ridge
What’s the release date for classic do we have a date?
idle kite
nope
maiden river
Sometime between June - August I think
granite mesa
well from what it looks like its going to be a summer release
maiden river
What's spell batching?
granite mesa
its explained in the post in #latest-news-old from wowhead, with included bluepost
idle kite
the simple explanation is the spells are sent to the server in batches
grand citrus
cool and all but were you ever told to believe nothing you read on april 1st
grand citrus
i'm implying that there's a high likelihood that it's a fool's
coral pasture
Also nice, 10 days before my birthday
grand citrus
cause y'know it's april fools' day
coral pasture
Hey are you interested in WoW rp?
fickle juniper
idle kite
i hate april 1st... this shit needs to stop ... everywhere you look or anything you read on that day is useless or need to be wary about.
vernal kettle
plucky glade
If I play classic, I want one
cerulean briar
hexed finch
tru
maiden river
I wanna play warrior tank in classic, but i never played classic before. Should i try to download a server for trying it?
And should i use undead warrior or human warrior? I cant decide..
hexed finch
warrior is the only tank that exists in vanilla
so good choice
obviously undead warrior,the question doesnt even present itself
maiden river
Why? Any diffrence?
devout hound
So firstly, private servers are against the rules
So we can’t talk about them
Secondly, I never played classic. I tried the demo and hated it
devout hound
I didn’t start tanking until MoP and I really only know how to tank with Brew and Veng
If you want to play classic tho, Druid is always solid
They have 4 specs
And Druid quests for the forms were cool af
devout hound
I’m going to go back to the regular channel since I have this section muted. I don’t play those classes so I can’t help. Sorry 😐
bright root
Warrior tanking:
human>dworf>gnome/NElf
troll>tauren/orc>UD
Also in vanilla / classic is also furry tank a think ;) if u and your raid know what to do..
Drood is good for 5 man / offtank
Shaman/paladin 5man with frends its able too, but not in raids..
@maiden river
Find deep dive guide on YT from "TipsOutBaby"
maiden river
Thanks 😃
bright root
NP.. Im personaly interested in shamy tank 
maiden river
Shaman tank?
bright root
Sure.. That was a plan originaly ;) but they scraped it.. Shaman has a lot of utility and also talents for medicate dmg, improve Block, armor etc..
Shaman tanking guide from Defcam&MeldoronTV.. But isnt mainstream, its mostly just for 5mans with frends who know what expect and what to do.. Cuz shaman have still lack of armor and no taunt..
Same as prot pala, he can do it, cut cant shine in raids
maiden river
Can i ask something to you that's not about classic?
Which tank class do you prefer for tanking ?
bright root
I dont play retail :D and in fact it doesn't matter now, when all classes are homogenised..
granite mesa
Warrior tanks are on the top, druids do work for tanking, but they are usually only offtanking in raids. I have never played a tank in vanilla, I am just going by my raiding/dungeon experience. If you are a druid, you will probably mostly be offtanking and be in the raid for that battle ress
bright root
If u are feral dps in classic u must play very well, with nonEZ rotation, have every piece of advantage what do u can (farm a lot of 2h maces from Gnomer, dont sell your feralhearth head etc), be able have "oh shit mod" for jump in bear and taunt when its needed.. But FIRST u and your raid must accept u are HYBRID and your utility for raid.. Battle ress, offheal, decurse, inervate. Etc.. Dunno if somebody spec in deep feral tank
hexed finch
Feral In Classic Is basically a scuffed Rogue with a Battle ress and a taunt
bright root
If u know how to play, u can really push dps charts..
But having one bag full of https://classic.wowhead.com/item=9449/manual-crowd-pummeler is just pain in ass :D
And also right timing power-shapeshift
broken olive
I did offtank as a feral in Classic. I still recall grabbing the dog packs in MC...
idle kite
you can actually pretty well main tank on druid even naxx bosss
in the last theorycrafting info
its not just an off tank
but i prefer pala tanking(going oom is fun)... yup i hate myself 😂
bright root
judgement of wisdom? 😉
hexed finch
You mean spending 99% of your time buffing the raid,until the main tank musters all his courage of not wanting the raid to wipe on a good pull,takes a ton of Pity on you,and lets you ""Tank"" for a bunch of seconds
Yea,its a no from me
👌
bright root
no idea how warrior main tank can "let paladin tank for few seconds" when paladins are tauntless 😄
maiden river
Should i try to play warrior tank in vanilla but i have no experience 
ocean wave
@maiden river certainly, if you have the confidence to go in pug or got a few friends / guildies its a good too go. there is lots of guides out there that can help you with rotations and such. 😄
teal walrus
The worst part of tanking in Classic is the waiting and helplessness. Most bosses were not tauntable, not in instances nor in dungeons. No matter class, the aoe tanking abilities were meager compared to what is now. So instead of the current 'bloodlust and blow all your cds' dps approach of most encounters today, dps and healers had to sit on their hands for a while waiting the tank or tanks to build threat on boss before doing much anything. And in 5 mans, unless you really overgeared the content, a lot of cc made everything easier.
idle kite
sorry... but thats just bad players. along the years new metas appared and now warr tanks do so much threat that everyone can dps to the max with almost no chance of overaggroing
as in... they tank naxx without a shield... actually dual wilding as fury and they keep everything on them
its pretty crazy
teal walrus
Well, that is at least how it was with all the groups I played with. "Wait for 3 sunders." We did Naxx (but not full clear, not that good).
idle kite
but your point is somewhat true come classic .. cuz that will be just the uber no lifers turbo neckbeards that do that... the rest will be normal threat sword and board d
teal walrus
And I am talking in terms of actual classic times, I have no clue about what some people can do on private servers now since I do not touch those
idle kite
yup... the theorycrafting from pservers is pretty crazy for all classes. i wonder how much of it will be accurate when classic drops
bright root
Furry&enha tanking is my goal
silent forum
being a really good fucking paladin healer like i had been back in the day that's my goal
maiden river
does anyone know the release date yet
idle kite
nope
potent hamlet
@silent forum I hear ya. I used to roll a baller Healadin back in the day for raiding. It was an awesome feeling to throw BoL and just FoL and NEVER running out of mana and keeping peeps all topped off.
rose trail
i need help
bright root
Just ask
maiden river
classic: 90% nostalgia 10% actual fun
change my mind
low wedge
its true
imagine all the hype comign on release
the queues the lag the disconects
week later half of them fucks off
cant wait to see all the tears being aaaa this is not classic bring back orignal vanila bla bla bla
😄
faint tapir
tribal hemlock
honestly: what's going to happen is that a lot of people are going to realize that what they've been used to playing on emulation is not legit classic.
since only blizzard has the 100% legitimate code, accurate loot tables, accurate spell multipliers, etc.
grizzled juniper
Inb4 "original classic suck*
tribal hemlock
lmao right?
thorn canopy
I don’t think Classic is just nostalgia but even if it was, what’s wrong with reliving nostalgia? There’s tons of games I get the urge to sit down and play for mainly nostalgic reasons
hexed finch
everytime some of my friends ask me about classic i'm like "i'm not that masochistic to go play it again"
the first time was more than enough
sacred eagle
I don’t think it’ll necessarily beat retail out, but it has the potential to at this point
More importantly, it’s an entirely different game - the two crowds aren’t remotely in the same pool
marble wolf
Eh, they overlap
sacred eagle
In that they're under the same genre and in the same written universe, yeah, but the actual gameplay elements and design aren't even apples and oranges anymore tbh
white dagger
Hi, does anyone have any idea how much wowhead approximately pays for good guides?
maiden river
¯_(ツ)_/¯
thorn canopy
grizzled juniper
what would this mean
weak sapphire
It's a beta build
grizzled juniper
when
weak sapphire
not too long ago
silent forum
im so exited for the beta of classic
velvet kernel
I don't expect to get the beta but i'm just excited we're at the point where the beta isn't far off.
junior pelican
there is another classic beta build huh https://i.imgur.com/oCXBnnG.png 30112 now 😃
silent forum
interesting
stark tangle
nnow where is the datamining?
sacred eagle
Hope there's more information on it soon, less worried about the date and more on whether it'll be open or closed
hexed finch
trim ocean
Nice
stark tangle
I'm hoping that anyone who was on the demo, will get it on day one.
I hope that's true.
quick cosmos
Imagine the amount of players on launch
You'd be unable to do anything
I think I'll wait
At least a day
sacred eagle
Man mode it day 1, assert dominance and tag everything first
minor pond
I suddenly feel myself being sick that day and calling in with an illness that will keep me out a whole week.
bright root
Funniest think is MC will be cleared in first 14 days be turboneckbeards degenerades ;D im glad im not a hardcore player / raider :D
And launch day will be not such terrible, cuz boring phasing.
cerulean briar
I saw tips new video of the screenshots from the beta and there was one of azshara crater
if azshara crater comes to classic i will NERDgasm
green folio
I don't think it will come out for awhile
people want to relive the original experience first
but they might add it after Nax
bright root
BigB will make added content only if it make HUGE profit and overcome retail.. But i dont think they do any of that. Like Azsahara crater, Dragon Isles etc.. Cuz thats a lot of work and invested money and totally diferent game in end.. More worth will be "classic TBC" imo..
green folio
Agreed. But in the case of Azshara crater it's a single BG. One BG which has a map already complete is alot less work then totally making a whole new island. Depends on the BG though
If it's as complex as AV then sure probably not but if it's a simple conquest isle sort of thing then I don't see why not
sharp pendant
A bientot entre ici et ailleurs les francophones!
hexed finch
dont think you can advertise here mate
grand citrus
<@&299347348847329281>
shy lake
Please don't promote other Discords within our Discord!
cerulean briar
Azshara crater seems smaller than AV
rapid wyvern
WoW [Release Assertions Enabled x64] [Build 30128 (1.13.2) (Apr 18 2019 16:56:01)] [MSVC 19.16.27027.1]
coral pasture
Credits..?
tame vector
I just clicked the link, it's a album of multiable images it looks like
abstract copper
Anyone else going Monk when Classic launches?
undone sundial
..is monk even in classic? Since they came in pandaria?
velvet kernel
I know it’s a incredibly small chance but I’m hoping they finish the azshara crater bg for classic a year or two down the line after they’ve been done with all the phase roll outs
Mainly since the map looked Mostly done geometry wise back in vanilla
silent forum
azshara crater was pretty much done all they needed to do was add the bg parameters setup where the objectives would (not as easy as that) would be eady
oh and update the minimap as the minimap doesent really reflect its last development state
cerulean briar
I would love to see azshara crater
rose flicker
Ah, torn between playing a troll rogue (my very first character) or a priest, choices choices... the nostalgia is strong
maiden river
Im gonna no life an undead mage once the game comes out
Max level mage asap and then gold farming for days
sacred eagle
First Mage was Undead, was tempted but gonna prolly do Human or Gnome
plucky glade
Always go
sacred eagle
But friends and racials
cunning hill
Any alpha ??
velvet kernel
all we know so far is that its in internal alpha among employees.
I'm still praying that we'll get it at the start of summer and not like September 19th XD
gritty sequoia
there's no way they're dropping 8.2 and classic at the same time or in the same quarter
mid-july does seem realistic for classic though
hexed finch
Well,they said Summer release
bright root
But summer (as defined season) is 3 months long
maiden river
I hope it's late summer
austere scroll
any EU guild around that is taking classic players in?
maiden river
I just wanna make sure that I have a full week available so I can no life my mage lmao
maiden river
I’ll have to remember to stock up on arrows/bullets for my hunter, and food for the pet
austere scroll
hah. everyone is going full hardcore 😂
trail marten
Are there no recruitment channels for Classic?
trim ocean
Is there Classic to recruit for?
hexed finch
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/163050426126565376/573035151588720641/mhyv61ijkgu21.png reposted from #no-wow-discussion
^scarlet monastery btw
austere scroll
😂 well start with the shorty!
trail marten
@trim ocean it may not be out yet, but many guilds are already recruiting
maiden river
Looking for a friend/friends to play classic all day everyday | Grind pvp and 100% the game | I play 16+ hrs a day | Pm if interested
plucky glade
@maiden river Few people can no life these days. Might wanna ask Asmongold.
bright root
No life degenerades without job..
I wish i havent job, but still constant stream of muny for my bank acc..
(but not everybody can have army of neckbeards for paying mine bills)
white musk
uhuhhhhh
faint bluff
Please do not make ill judgements about people you do not know properly based on incomplete information. A little bit of respect and restraint would be most welcome.
lucid wigeon
@bright root Ah yes, because having a job is a necessary component to being a healthy human being. Work sets you free ! Or, just like it was written on Auschwitz's gates, Arbeit macht frei !
/s
austere scroll
work is good, it was good, it will be good. that's how everything around you has been built. 😃
not playing games btw
lucid wigeon
We are more than 7 billion on the planet, there is much more workforce than there is work. The conceptual idea of work for the community might be a good thing, but having a job isn't and shouldn't be a necessary component of making a normal human being.
Sorry, but jobs like "inspector of inspector of workers" and "pen sharpener of inspector of inspectors of workers" aren't useful job and the idea that everyone needs to work is stupid.
coarse nexus
But then how do inspectors of inspectors get sharper pens? :(
trim ocean
Robots?
coarse nexus
Doesn’t have the same heart that a human would put into sharpening a inspector of inspectors pen
eternal geyser
Work is pretty necessary for the human person, not just as an individual but also also as a member of the community. Work, however, comes in many different shapes and forms... physical and mental, philosophical and scientific, creative and concrete. What is important is utilizing your potential for yourself, your family, your community, etc. Constant leisure is nothing more than a waste of time. Life can't be about having the maximum amount of pleasure for oneself, if it was then we would be in an even worse state than we are already. There has to be a purpose to your life, not necessarily a "job", that is meaningful otherwise you are literally moving towards nothing.
lucid wigeon
I agree. I was not supporting leisure, good thing you made the distinction between a meaningful purpose and a job.
Still, thinking everyone should make a living out of a job and everyone who don't are "No life degenerades without job" is absurd.
austere scroll
well it degenerates without a purpose/plan/job
so gl!
bu t let's get back to classic wow 😄
eternal geyser
But the essay I just wrote (and didn't post)... it was beautiful.
But i erased it, because classic wow.
austere scroll
i'm a bit worried by the amount of work classic is gonna require. and the elitists 😃
eternal geyser
i'm not, but i have a group of friends i am playing with and we are all going to be pretty casual - my only goal is to get Anathema/Benediction AGAIN on my priest. My retail account has it, and I kind of want to relive that experience haha
austere scroll
that's a good goal 😃 haha
played a shaman, so I was stuck with healing, but now I would like to try a warrior, maybe a paladin.
i think they will have to downsize the 40m raids to 25, to make classic viable long term
eternal geyser
it depends on how stable the population is on each server, and how many servers they have- but i don't see them downsizing when their goal is to be authentic to the original experience. The changes they have made have been minor, that one is pretty huge.
trim ocean
I don't see them downsizing raids that much either
cerulean briar
Will wowtoken be in classic?
plucky glade
xD Thats a silly question
The sheer amount of outrage would be more than visible if Wow tokens would be available in Classic
grizzled juniper
considering how much gold would it give
cerulean briar
i think 100-200 gold would be a classic wow token
plucky glade
Lol no
No wow tokens in Classic. Im not much of a fan of classic and even I can see thats a recipe for disaster
austere scroll
oh yeah, the token, they know we might pay for farmed gold. i'm not sure how bad that idea is.
grand citrus
Tbh. Gold sellers/hackers will return in classic wow. Wow tokens were deadly effective in their intended purpose and that was killing gold sellers
bright root
i found complete list what do u need as gear, buffs, consumables, where what drop.. also spreat to phases.. not like all pserver bis lists where is just endgame list .. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10IV_3NEmZdhh8iQXrs2Ek77YyUJbjBMWO5UxIWLlZl0/htmlview?sle=true#
enjoy 😉
green folio
Not every pserver bis list is end game
Fair chance people like leveling in vanilla as well
and do research into that
austere scroll
yes, that's a very nice xp. but once it's done, one might also want to feel the pain of MC & BWL. 😄
empty garnet
Phase 7 - New Blood Elf & Draenei Races Added
Starting Zones. Alliance Shamans, Horde Paladins.
Phase 8 - Horizontal Progression Dungeons:
Karazhan (10-man) & Caverns of Time (5-mans)
Phase 9 - Arena System Added (Ruins of Lordaeron)
Caverns of Time - Hyjal (25-man), Zul'Aman (10-man)
Phase 10 - Dual Talent Specialization, Guild Banks.
Balance & QoL changes. Fresh Servers Launch!
Phase 11 - Arena Season 2 (Ring of Valor Added)
Caverns of Time - Culling of Stratholme (5-man)
Phase 12 - Free Character Copy to Fresh Servers
(All current phase or higher items will be lost)
Phase 13 - Season 3, Maintenance, Server Merges.
(No content, but keep playing as long as you want!)
hexed finch
🤔
empty garnet
Just something I came up with as an alternative to other proposals. I think TBC servers is a terrible idea.
hexed finch
you know you're deep in it,when you start making TBC phases before classic even came out
hexed finch
oof
empty garnet
it doesn;t affect vanilla at all. These phases would come years after launch
hexed finch
thats the point
empty garnet
My point is that getting TBC servers would split the community. Fresh servers, TBC servers, WotLK servers, where would it end before the community is spread so thin that it kills community like everything else they do with this game?
hexed finch
Honestly dont think thats a thing we should think about now
Maybe Classic doesnt do as well,
Maybe they dont do TBC servers
Etc
empty garnet
true
plucky glade
Progressive servers are a fucking great idea. fiteme
TBC and Wrath s servers would be dope. Not terrible in the slightest.
empty garnet
Sorry, but TBC was trash compared to vanilla. WPvP was dead. The world was dead unless you were leveling or gathering. Daily quests were boring as hell. All classic content was completely trivialized by TBC. It didn't expand the world, it shrunk it down
It was the beginning of the end. Only reason it kept growing was due to the viral nature of trendy games, just like Fortnite or anything else. Cata was just the final nail in the coffin
plucky glade
LMAO
Totally why the playerbase grew in TBC and didn't shrink
At least this guy opens his mouth and lets us all know hes a moron
empty garnet
Well there's also the fact that it was the second chance for people to really push the endgame, because a lot of people missed out during vanilla. TBC was a lot of people's first expansion, at least playing with any level of skill and actually getting to experience it, but it wasn;t a better game.
The ONLY thing TBC really has over vanilla is that more specs were raid viable
And I guess Arenas, if that's your thing
Anyway, attacking the person rather than the argument is a good indication that you've lost the argument
grizzled juniper
That's skye for you
bright root
Also dual talents are from wotlk..
And meh.. For "classic TBC" is time 2+yr after vanilla imo
gritty sequoia
@empty garnet BC was much more than making specs "raid viable"
if you want a good example of this, look at frost mages
maiden river
Ultimately, if anything brings me back to Classic, it’s a restored Azeroth
shell egret
that's a big part for me as well
shell egret
so if I start a gnome mage, and run my lil butt all the way to Teldrassil for NE starting quests, should I be able to get to exalted with Darnassus for the mount if I do all the NE zone quests etc?
grizzled juniper
There is always the way woth the cloth piec3s
vestal trellis
classic me daddy
silent forum
Paladin's are extreemly good in healing
idle kite
you ment to say dps and tanking... its ok, everybody makes mistakes 🤔 😂 👌
sage quartz
meant *
maiden river
who do i talk to about writing guides for classic in this discord?
trim ocean
Probably @vernal kettle
vernal kettle
@maiden river you should reach out via feedback@wowhead.com. Each interested party will be reviewed and contacted if we're interested. Thank you. Be sure to follow the instructions: https://classic.wowhead.com/news=291702/wowhead-is-looking-for-wow-classic-writers
idle kite
@vernal kettle anyway you guys can create a list of items available per classic phase?... you know, as devs said, patch 1.10 released items will be in specific phase and not before, etc. do you have any way of backtracking the exact time of release of specific items and corelate to the appropriate phase? just an idea for a good helpfull post.
novel scroll
Are they announcing date for classic in 30min ?
lime hamlet
August 27th ladies and gentlemen
lime hamlet
If it is challenging as people say then i'm hyped
novel scroll
It's closed beta. Whelp. Challenging = time invested.
BFA was release somewhere around that time right?
two weeks earlier. Oh well , time to quit school i guess
lime hamlet
I think Legion was released aroud the end of August as well
novel scroll
I guess it will overlap with new raid. Well at least for people that are going to progress on it.
That sucks
elfin dune
BOIS HOLY SHIT
frigid fractal
unborn viper
Hey all. Super interested in the content writing opportunities regarding classic. Sr. Tech writer here with 5 years experience. I sent my information over but had a few questions about the project. Anyone know who I should reach out to about that?
maiden river
You can send an e-mail to feedback@wowhead.com @unborn viper or send a PM to Sas148 on here.
unborn viper
I sent the email over already, I'll message Sas with a few questions I had. Thanks!
prisma knoll
Do we know when the Beta will be released
Atleast
which hour
Nvm
i'm an idiot
quiet pine
I have someone being utterly confused why "It takes blizzard so long to do classic"
And that it is "monstrously idiotic" to even test this
What do I respond to this lol
unborn viper
software is hard?
reverse engineering decade old codebase can sometimes be like unraveling a gordian knot?
novel scroll
I just don't understand why they need beta for it? I guess they want too see how many people are interested in it
turbid kite
Yeah it’s not exactly running a carbon copy of the past, they had to rebuild it in a lot of ways
turbid kite
you always have to assume "summer" means end of August with Blizz
bright root
@idle kite @idle kite
U are welcome https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10IV_3NEmZdhh8iQXrs2Ek77YyUJbjBMWO5UxIWLlZl0/htmlview?sle=true#
Complete spreadcheet phase by phase
idle kite
tnx but thats not what i was asking really...
what is listed there is the full loot table that the boss has and its position in the phase list
i wanted the specific item on a boss and when it is added to the loot table of that specific boss
aka bloodlord has x item but not y until phase 2 when y is added to the loot table
get it?!?!?
but tnx anyway
already knew about this doc
silent forum
Im am so hyped for the beta hope to actualy get in
normal path
when are beta invites going to be sent out?
lavish glade
Uh one question for the beta, how do you know if u got in is it an email or what
maiden river
@lavish glade you should see it in your launcher
robust sky
anyone else own one of these ?
neon token
Yep!
robust sky
found it in an old drawer in my house sadly someone ripped the front cover off 😦
silent forum
yep
vestal glacier
Oooh shiiiit we get tbc and wotlk aswell?
My life is complete
This is going to kill all pservers
Hell yea
bright vapor
when do we get beta invites
maiden river
Oof
lavish glade
so when are we commoners gonna get beta invites?
bright vapor
idk
ocean cipher
Just a reminder that actual beta codes aren't going to be sent, if you get selected for the beta it will be automatically added to your battle.net account.
bright vapor
how long is actiblizzard picking out people still for beta
ocean cipher
No idea
bright vapor
15 mins untill all people are picked i assume
lavish glade
im probably just gonna watch asmongold play classic while im waiting for a key
ocean cipher
Nobody is being sent a key, the beta will be automatically activated on your account
bright vapor
👆
lavish glade
Does anyone have beta yet?
torn vortex
cerulean briar
Wow collectors edition from vanilla goes for a lot of money
grizzled juniper
no
cerulean briar
It actually goes for thousands
maiden river
if i can see the classic installer does that mean im in?
half obsidian
Congrats @maiden river on getting in!
Make sure to give feedback on any bugs you see ^_^
half obsidian
We all do Vector but give it time. They will be adding more people as time goes on
maiden river
im so unprepared! i didnt think i'd get in right away i havent even researched what class i want to play
cerulean briar
What does it say in the launcher if you get chosen?
cerulean briar
ah
maiden river
Nice grats @grizzled juniper
vestal trellis
nah he tricked ya
maiden river
more than likely, 
but I figured I would say it anyways lol.
cerulean briar
Gz!
Wait so do people constantly get beta keys from now to a week or two before launch?
grizzled juniper
idk
vocal whale
Make sure you have the box checked in your pref for beta invites for classic
tawdry mural
