#no-wow-discussion

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spice thistle
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You say X thing has y bad things

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People reply that Y has nice things

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No more

wary gate
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Normally I would retaliate with something but I feel like no matter what I say it's gonna be dogpiled on

spice thistle
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Iam not trying to be rrude

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Just

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genuinely curious

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Like what fuels you?

timber crag
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If the problem is everyone else, then introspection is time.

wary gate
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I just think they could definitely do a lot better

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I know older games have strong female characters

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but there hasn't been anything of late

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the closest was 13 and Lightning wasn't even a good character, just strong

spice thistle
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I ask

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Why does a game does forcefully have to have female characters to be a good series?

neon hinge
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I meeeeaaaaan

spice thistle
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Like

neon hinge
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50-50 yknow

wary gate
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Because diversity is important

neon hinge
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It's not that it has to

spice thistle
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It can also doesn't have males and be good

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Eh

neon hinge
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It's just that it feels weird if it's just males always

timber crag
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Well I do think we need more female leads. Gaming has been largely SWM-led for a LONG time.

spice thistle
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It's important but forced diversity is stupid

urban kite
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14 straight up has a fuckton of strong female characters

dreamy helm
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Forced diversity isnt good

urban kite
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15 has the same

heady solstice
spice thistle
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Likeee

urban kite
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13 had the same, 12, 11, 10, 10-2

wary gate
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because not having them is kinda misogynistic

timber crag
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There's no such thing as forced diversity tbh.

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Not in gaming.

wary gate
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because if you only have strong male characters

spice thistle
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That's a stupid way of thought

wary gate
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and no strong female characters

timber crag
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There's bad writing for diversity, but you can't force something that's an analogue of IRL.

wary gate
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then you're essentially saying females can't be strong

spice thistle
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Why is wrong with a story written with male characters that are strong?

wary gate
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because if they could then they'd be there

urban kite
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final fantasy is a series known for having the whineiest and bitchiest fucking male characters in all of gaming

timber crag
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Diversity is a fundamental fact of existence.

spice thistle
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Uh...

wary gate
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nothing

timber crag
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Nothing at all.

wary gate
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it's not a one or the other

spice thistle
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Like why do you have to think that?

timber crag
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@ Makore

wary gate
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What we want is both

urban kite
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and that exists

heady solstice
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^

spice thistle
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I mean

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When a story series is like stablished to have a norm

timber crag
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Kata is saying that female characters are also good for representation in a massively SWM dominated space. It can't be 'forced' if the vast majority of the space is one thing. That's just diversity.

heady solstice
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you keep saying there isnt any but they give you examples and you shrug them off

spice thistle
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you just don't change it, I am not talking about FF

heady solstice
wary gate
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Marc

heady solstice
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Kata

wary gate
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KataToday at 4:15 PM
I just think they could definitely do a lot better
I know older games have strong female characters
but there hasn't been anything of late
the closest was 13 and Lightning wasn't even a good character, just strong

spice thistle
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It would be like of a sudden Samus becomes weaker against a male character in Metroid

urban kite
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right but again, we give examples and you shrug them off

heady solstice
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b r o t h e r

spice thistle
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And suddenly they want to make her a wimp compared to a new male character

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That would be stupid

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Unless it's for a good reason and not a bad one like in Metroid other M

heady solstice
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but there hasn't been anything of late
@wary gate

spice thistle
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when she got PTSD with Ridley for one

timber crag
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I do think we need more good female characters in gaming, as well as LGBT representation, but I think there has been some good examples of both in recent times. People hate TLOU2 but it had both and imo was super good.

spice thistle
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When she never got traumatized before

timber crag
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There just needs to be more of it.

spice thistle
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I have a feeling that

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it's more about the felt of a forced something, trying to suddenly add something in a bad way

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Bad as

dreamy helm
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Can we move away from this political topic please?

wary gate
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most of the female characters in the latest final fantasies have been side characters

spice thistle
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Not giving a fuck about the story

wary gate
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it's not politics?

heady solstice
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dyre what

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?

dreamy helm
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It id

spice thistle
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Uh

dreamy helm
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Is

heady solstice
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????

spice thistle
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It's not

wary gate
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how is it politics?

heady solstice
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its not lmao

wary gate
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???

spice thistle
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Like this has been talked before

wary gate
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that's like saying race is political

spice thistle
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Like ages ago

timber crag
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It's not really politics. If you're against LGBT representation you're wrong, not political.

spice thistle
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If you don't like the topic there are other channels

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Ezpz

urban kite
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in XIV a lot of the females are bigger than the player character (despite the PC possibly being female but MMO)

timber crag
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Same for female representation.

spice thistle
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Alisaie

neon hinge
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@dreamy helm bruh

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lmao.

spice thistle
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besto character

timber crag
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It's a standard conversation to have and especially relevant these days.

spice thistle
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Aye

heady solstice
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ryne

spice thistle
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If you think it's political then ur bad

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you should be ashamed of yourself

wary gate
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look, if you find the topic uncomfortable that's ok

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but don't label it as politics please

timber crag
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I enjoy female characters a lot, tbh. It gets kind of boring seeing spiky-haired male protagonist being heroic 24/7.

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They have zero personality uniquity half the time.

spice thistle
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Yeah

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I enjoy female characters too

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I enjoy both male and characters

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As soon they are written correctly and for the story of it

wary gate
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some of the best selling games in recent memory have had female protagonists

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such as horizon zero dawn

spice thistle
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Zero Dawn was great

north verge
wary gate
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nice

spice thistle
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But I didn't play XV a lot

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but apparently the male characters were very bland

wary gate
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but it's so rare to have well written female characters who actually advance the plot and effect the story

timber crag
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i honestly didn't like Horizon Zero Dawn narratively but if I had to point out a game I really enjoyed with a female lead, it'd be the A Plague Tale: Innocence lead

urban kite
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its not rare at all

timber crag
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strong sister helping her young brother to survive

spice thistle
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Let me rewrite what Kata said

urban kite
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especially in final fantasy

wary gate
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who isn't just some side character

urban kite
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yes??

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ESPECIALLY in final fantasy

spice thistle
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It's rare to have well written characters lately with all the gaming being flodded by Shooters

wary gate
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No

spice thistle
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Im looking at you battlefield V

timber crag
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Ehh, you can't really equate that to a historically underrepresented demographic.

dreamy helm
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I wanna rephase.

wary gate
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There isn't a single woman in the FFXVI trailer

dreamy helm
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I just meant it is a very charged and decisive topic.

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that can go south quickly

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is all

wary gate
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there's 1 little girl

dreamy helm
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I dont hold any opinion towards the topic I just see it being decisive is all.

urban kite
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and that decides the entire game?

timber crag
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I think it's fine as long as it stays civil. If people start with the ad hominem it should probably stop immediately.

heady solstice
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bro

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shiva is literallly

wary gate
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No, but I genuinely don't expect them to just add one in

heady solstice
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there

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wdymmm

spice thistle
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Shiva is scary

dreamy helm
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I liked shiva

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Ive always liked shiva

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cool as fuck character

spice thistle
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Is that a fucking

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UGH

urban kite
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like i'm sorry but you can't just shun an entire series because One fucking trailer didn't have a single pair of tits in it

wary gate
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She's just a summon? and oh dear gods her outfit is... revealing

urban kite
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you cannot use that as a basis for an entire series

neon hinge
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There isn't a single woman in the FFXVI trailer
There's one lol

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I saw some Luna-like character

timber crag
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I don't honestly think the sexualization of women is as big of an issue as people point out. The very same happens endlessly to men in all forms of media because attractive, strong characters are easy to enjoy.

wary gate
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There's no sign of any female characters you might be able to play or
have in your party, sorry

urban kite
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because its a teaser

heady solstice
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k dude

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this is literally

neon hinge
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The only sing of playable character is mr edgy man lol

heady solstice
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the first fucking

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teaser

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dude

neon hinge
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And we know it won't be just 1 dude

dreamy helm
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thats so nitpicky kata

neon hinge
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so fuck off

timber crag
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Take it easy, Marc. Also Int.

urban kite
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its the tiniest hint of the game

wary gate
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The only women I see are like... "we take care of the children"

timber crag
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You're gonna kill the convo super fast.

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If it can't be civil, we can't have it.

dreamy helm
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this is what I meant lmao

timber crag
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Mhm.

heady solstice
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kata are we watching the same teaser?

dreamy helm
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feel like everyone blocked me just cause I didnt wanna see problems

wary gate
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oh and the one lady in black who appears to be an actual lady

timber crag
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It's obnoxious that some people are physically incapable of having civil conversations with people they disagree with.

urban kite
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"an actual lady"

wary gate
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y'know... like nobility

spice thistle
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so what's not an actual lady?

wary gate
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a noble lady

dreamy helm
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well the moment I said something people disagreed with I got told to shut the fuck up

native burrow
spice thistle
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Oh you avoided that bullet

wary gate
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the female version of lord

neon hinge
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@timber crag It's just.. so frustrating cuz Kata is like, always the same bs

heady solstice
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elegy tbh its obnoxious that you keep complaining about things no one cares about

dreamy helm
wary gate
heady solstice
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thats just my opinion though

wary gate
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good ashe skin

heady solstice
spice thistle
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That's what I meant with my question INter

neon hinge
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Ok MAkore

native burrow
timber crag
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elegy tbh its obnoxious that you keep complaining about things no one cares about

Dyre cares about it.

wary gate
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meh, who cares about lee sin?

timber crag
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If you think it's obnoxious, I apologize.

neon hinge
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just ignore Marc Elegy

spice thistle
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y u no care about my boy the carry?

neon hinge
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it's better that way

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xD

heady solstice
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wow inter

spice thistle
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marc is a hoe

heady solstice
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i simp for you

spice thistle
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disregard him

heady solstice
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and this is what i get

spice thistle
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You haven't donated

timber crag
spice thistle
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tf you talking about

heady solstice
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i donated 3k

timber crag
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sad cow

heady solstice
spice thistle
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you must donate a ps5 now

dreamy helm
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I mean I have a pretty good grasp of what "general" channels can handle in public servers, elegy. XD

native burrow
wary gate
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But my point is, it's a fucking fantasy world and they could easily do a lot fucking more to diversify their games than they are.

urban kite
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THEY DO

neon hinge
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That, we can agree

wary gate
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Sett continues to be hot regardless of the skin

urban kite
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YOU JUST DONT LISTEN

dreamy helm
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THEY HAVE MAN

native burrow
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Also voice duo

wary gate
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LIST EVERY BLACK CHARACTER

native burrow
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Duo

urban kite
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ONE single teaser trailer IS NOT a good basis

native burrow
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Dio

wary gate
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IT STOPS REAL FUCKING SHORT

dreamy helm
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Hrothgar

spice thistle
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WHY DO YOU WANT EVERYONE TO BE BLACK

native burrow
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Anime?

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Anime?

wary gate
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I DON'T HOLY FUCK

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BUT YOU KNOW HOW MANY THERE ARE?

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2

dreamy helm
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I don't think you realize

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most of FFXIV is based off uh

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European cultures

wary gate
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Who gives a fuck?

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it's a fantasy world

neon hinge
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ffxiv has cats so that's not an argument really

wary gate
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there literally are not rules

dreamy helm
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true

native burrow
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Lalafall is the master race

neon hinge
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Lalafall?

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Ah

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Falafel

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yes

timber crag
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You can't claim that diversity is forced when a game is 99 percent the majority demographic people and folks want representation for their demographic.

wary gate
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^

urban kite
native burrow
heady solstice
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it is also kind of

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a fucking

urban kite
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from 2014, so its a little outdated

heady solstice
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japanese game

urban kite
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but there's more than "2"

timber crag
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Black people live in Japan xD.

wary gate
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I hate that they made Brand sexy

heady solstice
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yes but they're pretty rare

dreamy helm
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not that many

heady solstice
wary gate
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it doesn't matter

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none of that matters

dreamy helm
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and I know racism/xenophobia is common iirc

wary gate
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it's a fantasy game

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you can do whatever the fuck you want

heady solstice
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yes it is a fantasy game

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made by

dreamy helm
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the japanese

heady solstice
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a japanese

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game

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company

wary gate
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that's not an excuse

spice thistle
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I mean

timber crag
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It doesn't matter if it's rare. Their game is a worldwide phenomenon catering to a worldwide audience.

wary gate
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you can't just wave away this stuff by saying "it's just how they are"

timber crag
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America doesn't only make games about Americans.

heady solstice
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also id say there is a good majority of people who are black in ff14

spice thistle
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All the gyr abanians

timber crag
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majority

no

native burrow
heady solstice
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yes

spice thistle
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no

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wait

timber crag
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There is an East Asian analogue and a Middle Eastern analogue.

spice thistle
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isn't that the robot girl?

timber crag
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Everyone else is white.

neon hinge
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I like how we are all talking about X and goyut just spamming their shit meanwhile lol

spice thistle
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Whats wrong with it?

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I am mexican and I don't feel bad that there aren't yellow skinned people

urban kite
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raubahn is white now?

spice thistle
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So?

native burrow
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Wait what?

spice thistle
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Mexicans have yelloish skin color

heady solstice
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yep macho

timber crag
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There's nothing wrong with it, but there's also nothing wrong with people advocating for their demographic to be represented.

heady solstice
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raubahn

wary gate
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I can't believe that some of the best representation in video games comes from fucking world of warcraft at this point

neon hinge
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makore

heady solstice
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is now white

native burrow
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But I am yellow skin

heady solstice
neon hinge
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you ain't yellow

wary gate
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also GW2

neon hinge
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you're brown

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fucking idiot

heady solstice
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^

spice thistle
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that

wary gate
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but no one remembers GW2

heady solstice
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i think mak is uh

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color blind

spice thistle
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Brown

native burrow
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Can’t help it when I’m Asian

dreamy helm
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cause GW2 is trash

timber crag
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I can't believe that some of the best representation in video games comes from fucking world of warcraft at this point

it's pretty surprising tbh, but good

spice thistle
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I mean

neon hinge
spice thistle
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WoW had to be almost canceled if it wasn't the case so

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new expac?

heady solstice
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wow does not have good representation

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give me a fucking break dude

spice thistle
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When there was a color selector since FF1.0?

urban kite
spice thistle
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What the fuck are you smoking Kata

urban kite
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clearly white

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btw

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but we'll ignore it

dreamy helm
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FOR ALA MHIGO

spice thistle
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Sloppy

dreamy helm
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SLOPPEH

heady solstice
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macho why are you posting 2 white people fighting?

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?

dreamy helm
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literally the best character in ffxiv

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isnt white

urban kite
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almost like an entire fucking section of the game is based around WHITE these people

heady solstice
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yohoho

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gayass ball car

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tbh

urban kite
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but we'll ignore that

spice thistle
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Liberation is fucked up guys

heady solstice
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gaius is now

dreamy helm
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cause it fits his agenda/opinion/argument

heady solstice
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white

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:)

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sorry idiots!

dreamy helm
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or just ignorance

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one of the two

spice thistle
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or both

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Kata decides to be ignorant when the situation is fit and then shrugs it off

heady solstice
wary gate
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dyre

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gw2 is great

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you shut your mouth

dreamy helm
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fucking make me

wary gate
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how's n'zoth?

dreamy helm
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I gave my opinion that I am allowed to have

spice thistle
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no

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Look if we are shutting Kata down everyone is shutting down

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As the local opressed mexican im telling you this

heady solstice
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i am an oppressed mexican and puerto rican

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i am more oppressed

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sorry idiot!

spice thistle
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no u

dreamy helm
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oof

wary gate
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I am literally the least opressed a human can be

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I am privileged as fuck

heady solstice
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i am also irish so i am oppressed by the british

spice thistle
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Yes

heady solstice
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i win again!

spice thistle
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And you got a simp

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So

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Your opinion is as invalid as Marc's parses

dreamy helm
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are you actually irish?

wary gate
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hence why I feel the need to use it to voice the issues that are plaguing media

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and the world

dreamy helm
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what does marc parse?

heady solstice
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yes dyre

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i am the grey god

dreamy helm
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noice

spice thistle
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His own ass

heady solstice
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ill have you know

urban kite
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kata i can promise you now, being completely fucking wrong about your arguments isn't going to help put forward a good case

dreamy helm
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wait like 5 generations down from migration irish or like actually irish?

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cause im the former )=

spice thistle
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You can't try to voice people when people don't really give a fuc

heady solstice
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i mean id assume immigration irish

spice thistle
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I remember someone in another server trying to have a voice for mexicans in the old snes games

dreamy helm
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isnt that technically uh

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whats the word

spice thistle
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And I simply technically said

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"We don't give a fuck about representations"

dreamy helm
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condescending to act offended and whatnot for others?

spice thistle
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It's like that drama with Mario Odyssey and the mexican sombrero

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everyone but the mexicans were offended

urban kite
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the implication that these people need "saving" or that they need someone else to speak for them is pretty offensive, yes

heady solstice
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wow its almost like people get offended for other people when they arent offended

timber crag
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One mexican not caring about representation for mexicans doesn't invalidate another mexican wanting representation for mexicans. Don't be disingenuous.

heady solstice
wary gate
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I love my sombrero

spice thistle
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Well Elegy

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As a mexican with a mexican feed

wary gate
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you shouldn't get offended for others

spice thistle
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With a mexican page that has like 130k followers that didn't give a fuck

wary gate
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not unless they themselves are already offended

spice thistle
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I can really tell you

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stfu

timber crag
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Anecdotes aren't arguments.

heady solstice
wary gate
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Miles being in the new spider-man is such a big deal

spice thistle
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Mexicans don't get offended by silly stuff like white americans

wary gate
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it's actually nuts

spice thistle
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Like the narcos movies?

urban kite
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its not nuts, he's a boring fucking spiderman

spice thistle
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Is he?

urban kite
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extremely

spice thistle
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I didn't read the comics

heady solstice
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i mean

spice thistle
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What does he do besides being Peter Parker's replacement?

heady solstice
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i dont think its such a big deals

urban kite
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makes one joke

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and then he's just spiderman in harlem

heady solstice
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theres been hispanic spider men lmao

urban kite
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i'd be more impressed if it was a well written spiderman, sure

spice thistle
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Wasn't there one called Juan or something?

heady solstice
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man_2099

Spider-Man 2099

Spider-Man 2099 is a fictional superhero appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. The character was created by Peter David and Rick Leonardi in 1992 for the Marvel 2099 comic book line, and is a futuristic re-imagining of his namesake created by Stan Lee a...

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1992

wary gate
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dude his new costume

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is fucking sleek

native burrow
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I thought spider man was dead since marvel and Disney happen

spice thistle
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Nah

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Spider Man is strong

heady solstice
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but yeah i wouldnt consider miles being spider man a big deal

dreamy helm
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the comic licenses marvel has always had

urban kite
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if he was a good fucking character then i'd care more

heady solstice
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true

urban kite
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but since his entire character is "he's black" then i don't care

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because people can't just write good characters anymore

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it has to be "he's gay" or "she's trans"

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and its fucking boring

heady solstice
spice thistle
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Watch out Macho

urban kite
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no i see the typing already

spice thistle
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You are going to get jumped by the SJWs

heady solstice
spice thistle
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But I agree

native burrow
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I am ok if the character gay but at least write some god damn good story

urban kite
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if they just made actually good characters then i wouldn't care

dreamy helm
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I actually agree with macho on this

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thats my biggest issue with this kinda stuff its very shoe horned in at times

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look at

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Doctor Who

urban kite
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female? fucking sick, lara croft, samus, etc; great fucking characters and well made

spice thistle
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Making characters that are "Gay" "Trans" "Special man" or "just woman" AND that's it

dreamy helm
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They ruined it completely

spice thistle
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Bored

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boring

native burrow
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Spider-Man as a black man

dreamy helm
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Doctor who doesnt exist anymore

native burrow
urban kite
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i've played as faceless blobs with more personality than some of these characters

native burrow
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Who doctor

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Wasn’t the female doctor who a let down

dreamy helm
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you have no fucking clue

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lmao

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it was so bad

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and somehow they made it worse

spice thistle
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so bad

latent plaza
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Wait is someone saying Miles Morales isn’t a good character D:

native burrow
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Oof

urban kite
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He's not great

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He's "okay" at best but god

dreamy helm
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they went and retconned and deleted 60 years of lore

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just on a whim

native burrow
#

That a fuck you to the fan

latent plaza
#

I loved him in Spider-Man PS4, and Spider-Verse was great too

urban kite
#

Spider-verse was probably the only thing I've seen that I actually enjoyed him in, I'll give you that

#

I've not played the PS4 game, comics just paint him as.. fucking bland

latent plaza
#

I know about that, yeah.

urban kite
#

but thats a whole other shitshow anyway

latent plaza
#

I think Spider-Verse really carved out Miles as a real character

urban kite
#

maybe the game will be better, I dunno, it showed off fucking NOTHING on how they're writing him

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other than "he's black, he's spiderman and he does spiderman stuff"

heady solstice
#

bruh the game is just

#

infamous 3

spice thistle
#

I might just

#

Well

#

I hope they can give us demos

#

But I am buying Demon Souls and Final Fantasy XVI

#

just imagine FF XXVIII

dreamy helm
#

I am buying Cyberpunk 2077

urban kite
#

yeah I dunno, I hope the spiderman games good; heard nothing but good things about the first one so

dreamy helm
#

what

timber crag
#

But Karens speak gibberish and they get infected every second they try speaking

wary gate
#

man...

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why can't white people cook?

dreamy helm
#

thats bullshit

wary gate
#

my dad's eating unseasoned frozen chicken, frozen fire roasted corn, and hot sauce

urban kite
#

i'm worried about where this clearly racist comment is going but

dreamy helm
#

Im eating a frozen burrito that I steamed then seared on all sides on a griddle

spring heath
#

I can cook just fine thank you very much
I know how seasonings work

#

No, butter is not a seasoning

dreamy helm
#

LMAO

#

the kitty wanna make bread

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meow

wary gate
#

obviously I'm being hyperbolic

#

but holy fuck I don't think I've ever been to a white person's house and had good food

urban kite
#

you're just being openly racist at this point

dreamy helm
#

ARE YOU GUYS BREADY?!

wary gate
#

not gonna bother with saying I was just kidding but it was a joke regarding how my father literally seasons nothing

spice thistle
#

Nice coming from the person that doesn't like these kinda jokes

dreamy helm
#

on another note

#

I made myself sick to my stomach

wary gate
#

I never said that?

#

What

dreamy helm
#

I ate a huge ass bowl of banana pudding

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and I regret it

wary gate
#

Why do you keep doing this?

dreamy helm
#

cause I hate myself I guess

urban kite
#

whats an ass bowl

dreamy helm
#

I fucking knew someone would say that

urban kite
#

lmao

wary gate
#

man, this child invoker skin is weird

dreamy helm
#

I wonder if I eat another burrito if it would help my stomach

wary gate
#

how much water have you drunk?

dreamy helm
#

uh

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I dont think any today

wary gate
#

that'll do it

peak verge
#

Kata are you black?

cursive tree
#

Lol

wary gate
empty swallow
#

haha yes

#

😂

#

👌

wary gate
valid horizon
#

cause we europeans know what seasoning are well except british people

oak pelican
#

Where is the Crawfish?

dense trout
#

i don't think Canada or Mexico would like being grouped into "NA cuisine"

dreamy helm
#

yes

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How about

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we just drop this

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xD

dense trout
#

lol

oak pelican
#

requires and awnser about the lack of crawfish in that video 😦 (just kidding)

dreamy helm
#

well

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crystal has hinted heavily where they live XD

oak pelican
#

Oh gods I WISH

dreamy helm
#

oh

#

welp

oak pelican
#

I'm stuck in land locked alberta 😦

dreamy helm
#

where is alberta

#

isnt that canada

oak pelican
#

.....

dreamy helm
#

IM TIRED

oak pelican
#

yes

dreamy helm
#

ok I though so

valid horizon
#

the amount of butter and the little amount of seasoning in that food is a crime

wary gate
#

excuse me

#

the fuck is that food network recipe

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WHAT IS ALL THAT BUTTER

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it's not the worst boil I've ever seen'

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but holy fuck my arteries

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ew autochess

dreamy helm
#

such a judgemental person

wary gate
#

ew a banana

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jk bananas are good

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but not banana flavoring

valid horizon
#

my first tft with that set was a moonlight dusk team

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and I won it

#

lvl 4 units are op

timber crag
#

We Swedes make damn good food

wary gate
timber crag
#

So I sold my Streamdeck XL to a guy who is going to use it for his Church. I never really thought to use it for teaching or whatever you know? It’s more versatile than I have it credit

mellow raft
#

Xd

dreamy helm
#

Im jealous

#

Its too warm here

oak pelican
#

it's been a nice ...well what Minishu has

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My sorta weather!

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just needs some thunderstorms ❤️

empty swallow
#

<@&299347348847329281>

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tf goes through some people's heads I swear GWcorbinTopKek

burnt topazBOT
#

dynoSuccess oimanush#5488 was banned | trolling/racism

urban kite
#

Aint even a busy channel

hardy forge
#

ouch

oak pelican
#

awww did I miss a troll? 😦

neon hinge
wary gate
#

rise looks weird

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somewhere between world and traditional

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I hope it goes back to being difficult

#

Personally.... stories 2 looks better

#

never thought I'd say that

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dude I remember shaman king fondly

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so I went back to read it

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is is booooooooring

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what?

neon hinge
#

😂

hardy forge
#

pog

earnest abyss
#

i just can't NOT share the level of this fail...
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-09-17-capcom-says-devil-may-cry-5-special-edition-wont-come-to-pc
https://twitter.com/PatStaresAt/status/1306408688593272835

Eurogamer.net
Capcom says Devil May Cry 5 Special Edition won't come to PC
Pat Stares At SuperGiant Roguelikes (@PatStaresAt)

So I spoke with folks at Capcom, the PC version of DMC5 is only going to be receiving Vergil as DLC, and won't be getting the SE version Legendary Dark Knight Mode, Turbo Mode, Raytracing support etc. Wtf.

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urban kite
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Yup. Shit sucks

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Wondering if sony paid for exclusivity for a time or something

earnest abyss
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it's on XBOX too...

urban kite
#

Ah, then thats dumber

earnest abyss
#

like if it was only sony, i will always know who to hate... but now... i just out of words...

urban kite
#

We’ll get it later for $60 or some crap, no doubt

neon hinge
#

That's stupid, Capcom

urban kite
hardy forge
#

they saw game pass was too successful

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and wanted the cash

neon hinge
#

4€/mo was stupidly cheap though

urban kite
#

no it's just leaving beta, it's been known since release that it was going up in price eventually

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and it's being tied in with the new xbox console

hardy forge
#

@timber crag ^

cursive tree
#

What is this O_o

timber crag
#

why have i been @'d

hardy forge
#

halfjokes relevancy

timber crag
#

ooh minecraft

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LOL

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yeah i get your point lmfao

wary gate
random folio
#

Is wowhead down?

opal cloud
#

yes

random folio
#

Do you know for how long by any chance?

opal cloud
#

yes

neon hinge
#

After one piece

wary gate
#

one piece is ending in ~ 5 years

dreamy helm
#

20 years

neon hinge
#

nah, actual ~5 years

wary gate
elfin wagon
#

does anyone know someone that does character drawing commissions for wow chars? i've been trying to find artists but no luck

spring heath
#

I know many many many people

#

What kind of style are you after and what's your price range?

elfin wagon
#

something with this sort of style and idm the price maybe £100-£200

spring heath
#

I actually follow that artist

elfin wagon
#

does he do commissions?

spring heath
urban kite
#

their commissions are open

dreamy helm
#

Looks like thats a poggers right there

elfin wagon
#

it was fate 😄 lol

spring heath
#

They have a great style, hope you can snag a slot ^_^

timber crag
#

oh wow their art is pgood

elfin wagon
#

yep

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@spring heath thank you soo much ❤️

#

@spring heath messaged him, do you know how much he generally costs?

spring heath
#

I do not but there might be a price list somewhere, sec

#

here we go

elfin wagon
spring heath
#

Relatable

wary gate
wary gate
twin inlet
#

Hey 🙃

#

Anyone ply lightbringer?

dense trout
timber crag
#

What does that mean

hardy forge
#

the amount of news posts wowhead had posted

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regarding shadowlands

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i think

timber crag
#

Wow lmfao

dense trout
#

everything that shows up in the main news list

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unless it's already dropping them

#

idk why it says Shadowlands News

cloud dew
dreamy helm
#

nice

#

should send it to me

#

yes

cloud dew
#

i have the choice between 4k and 1440p/144hz still have no idea what i'm gonna main with this card

dreamy helm
#

144hz

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you know its better man

cloud dew
#

oof

#

kinda sucks i had to buy a new psu as well

#

using 1070 for almost 4 years
@main dirge same my man

dreamy helm
#

im on a 1080 SAD

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I gotta upgrade soon

cloud dew
#

gonna have to get a new 5 series amd cpu as well i'm affraid

#

the 2700x is going to bottleneck

dreamy helm
#

yep

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and a new board too

cloud dew
#

well, not on 4k

dreamy helm
#

true

#

144hz for sure

#

likely yes probably

cloud dew
#

yeh

#

ikr

hardy forge
#

1080...upgrade soon....you only play wow

#

are you sure about that

dreamy helm
#

I play other games too

hardy forge
dreamy helm
#

also 4k

#

so like

hardy forge
#

4k isnt a necessity

#

it's not like "you outright cant launch a game" without 4k

cloud dew
#

and a new board too
@dreamy helm not sure how necesary pci 4.0 is right now

dreamy helm
#

when you have a monitor that is 4k only yes

hardy forge
#

my monitor is 4K and does 1080p just fine

dreamy helm
#

Pretty sure you cant use the new amd cpus with the older boards?

#

it looks like shit cause its nonnative

cloud dew
#

Pretty sure you cant use the new amd cpus with the older boards?
@dreamy helm yesh, 5 series will be AM$

hardy forge
#

i dont see any major difference,it's wow afterall

cloud dew
#

AM4

dreamy helm
#

I notice it for everything

hardy forge
#

yeah series 5 is "new boards"

#

I notice it for everything
you're also numbers obsessed with spreadsheets for everything

#

so factor that in

dreamy helm
#

what

#

what does that do with anything

cloud dew
#

yeah series 5 is "new boards"
@hardy forge what, why? Same socket, no?

dreamy helm
#

no

#

also new chipset

#

that is incompat iirc

#

theres reasons why you cant use an old board with new cpus

hardy forge
#

AMD's answer to "why new boards" is that the chip on the motherboard "cant hold any more cpu data compatibility"

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and it's full

cloud dew
#

oh nvm, i've must of misread somewhere it would be AM4

dreamy helm
#

basically comes down to UEFI bios stuff

hardy forge
#

yeah the BIOS is too full to have any more cpus

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is AMD's answer

dreamy helm
#

since the uh chip on the boards is only 16mb

cloud dew
#

if it's a new socket then i'll better get a new board as well

dreamy helm
#

since thats all intel ever needed of course

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and boardmakers wouldnt upgrade the chip for AMD specially at the launch of ryzen

cloud dew
#

and faster memory lmao

dreamy helm
#

hopefully they will eventually upgrade to 128 Mb chips or something

hardy forge
#

remember intel,the one that makes you change motherboard for EVERY.SINGLE.CPU.THEY.PUT.OUT

#

great marketing

cloud dew
#

lmao

hardy forge
#

AMD released a ton of CPUs and they're all usable by motherboards after 2016

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ez marketing

hardy forge
#

duh,remember when people mass bought toilet paper and hand sanitizer

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to sell it for more

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and then government got on their ass

dreamy helm
#

this is legally fine here though iirc

hardy forge
#

check internet historian's vids @main dirge

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i wanted to dm you the link,but you got dms disabled

crisp prairie
#

So I was selected to be part of the COVID-19 vaccine trial group for Canada. The vaccine was apparently made by a Russian pharmaceutical company and I received my first shot this afternoon. I wanted to let you all know that it’s completely safe with иo side effects whatsoeveя, and that I feelshκι на самом деле, я чувствую себя немного странно. Путин лучший!

neon hinge
#

morn

urban kite
hardy forge
#

i'm good on the recommended settings

#

nice

spice thistle
#

ineed more ram

wary gate
#

Happy Mario Day

urban kite
#

its not march

wary gate
#

It's the 35th anniversary

tough escarp
#

boring

spice thistle
#

It's the 35th anniversary and they fucked it by not remaking mario 64 instead of a port

tough escarp
#

Imagine being older than 35 and caring about that piece of museum novelty.

wary gate
#

Not older than 35

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still bought it

hardy forge
#

@spice thistle it runs on an emulator

spice thistle
#

Ikno

hardy forge
#

not only do all 3 games run on emulator

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they even pulled artificial scarcity on DIGITAL COPIES

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which are infinitely produce-able

wary gate
#

Look, I can now play 3 of my favorite mario games on my switch, on the go

#

that's all I care about

hardy forge
#

you say that,but ONLY FOR 6 MONTHS

wary gate
#

No?

hardy forge
#

then you cant buy them anymore

spice thistle
#

While I am

wary gate
#

I bought it

#

what do I care?

spice thistle
#

A fan of nintendo

#

I really dont

#

like how they treated this

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Like it's Super mario all stars again

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A wii game

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Price of a AAA game

hardy forge
#

mak,people are saying "classic nintendo" it's like the 30th time they do intentional artifical scarcity

spice thistle
#

It was the rom of the SNES Super Mario All Stars

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Issue is going to be that after they remove it from the retailers

#

It's gonna cost a lot more to buy it later

hardy forge
#

just get it digital

#

from someone

#

know someone who has it

#

xdd

spice thistle
#

How to sell digital even

#

But what pisses me most if that they could have made it better

wary gate
#

Look, I'm not a huge fan of how they're handling this either, but I get to play freaking 64 and sunshine again and that makes me happy.

spice thistle
#

Super Mario 64 remake

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as a stand alone

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Then have all stars with Sunshine and the two Galaxies

urban kite
#

nintendo can always do better, but if people are gonna buy their games for $60 no matter what, why bother

#

no other game company in the world would get away with it

spice thistle
#

Because it's their mascot like

#

tf

urban kite
#

and that excuses it?

spice thistle
#

I meant as

tough escarp
spice thistle
#

You need to work on it

#

its your damn mascot

urban kite
#

oh right

spice thistle
#

Treat him like something cool

urban kite
#

but yeah, nintendo don't need to. People dislike how it's being sold and treated but buying it anyway

#

its how nintendo is

#

like some abusive housewife that'll whoop your ass all over and then "lol metroid prime 3" and they come crawling back

wary gate
#

Personally, I don't hate the idea of spending 30 on galaxy, 20 on sunshine, and 10 on 64 just to play them all on my switch. Not to mention it's apparently super expensive to get sunshine in the eu with prices of over 70euro. I'm just so excited to play mario again...

urban kite
#

£35

#

but that's also a testament to nintendo never actually lowering prices on anything

#

since galaxy still costs the same as a game released today

#

despite it being 9 years old

tough escarp
#

35GBP?

urban kite
#

for sunshine, yes

tough escarp
#

you're from the traitor EU nation?

urban kite
#

if you mean the only relevant country on that side of the planet then yes

tough escarp
urban kite
#

to be fair i'm not wrong, i don't consider ireland, france, portugal or spain to be worthwhile

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neon hinge
#

Bruh

urban kite
#

lmao

wary gate
#

I just get to play mario again

#

I'm so happy

valid horizon
#

HEY

tough escarp
#

the only thing worthwhile is Europe

hardy forge
#

no other game company in the world would get away with it
i mean sword and shield got multiple shitstorms and devs lying through their teeth multiple times

#

and it still was the best seller out of all pokemon games

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

even mak bought it day one

urban kite
#

yes, the point is that they got away with it

#

and nobody else would

#

simply because its a nintendo product

hardy forge
#

nintendo's audience is children and manchildren

#

they could get away with murder

#

if they wanted

tough escarp
#

true

#

also dont let the brits get away with spitting in the face of all of EU

urban kite
#

it wasn't all of it

tough escarp
#

51%

urban kite
#

i'm sure you can tax it someplace else 😏

tough escarp
#

imb4 taxing brits in spain

#

smh

fair gyro
wary gate
#

IT COMES WITH ALL THE OSTS

tough escarp
urban kite
#

damn, imagine not being able to listen..

fair gyro
#

VERFÜGBAR

tough escarp
urban kite
#

cant admire such classics as "diggy diggy hole"

wary gate
#

wait macho are you deaf?

urban kite
#

god i fucking wish

fair gyro
#

lol

#

diggy hole is cool

#

this cover

tough escarp
#

I need to finsih this steak first

fair gyro
#

are you

#

literally watching steak

#

get cooked

urban kite
#

aden is an experience tbh

tough escarp
fair gyro
#

:I

tough escarp
fair gyro
#

looks like a piece of marble

urban kite
#

exactly

fair gyro
#

still

#

just watching it cook

#

is not fun

neon hinge
#

wagyu?

tough escarp
fair gyro
#

abroad in japan youtube channel has video of something like most expensive beef, or most rare

#

only avilable in this one specific place

neon hinge
#

That's what I said, yeah

tough escarp
neon hinge
#

Also that's what Doge shared

fair gyro
#

frie

tough escarp
#

I'm gonna fly to Japan and eat this steak

#

wtf

fair gyro
#

if I ever went anywhere, it'd only be for the food

tough escarp
#

I hope they got forks ... not gonna eat with tree branches

fair gyro
#

lol

tough escarp
#

smh

fair gyro
#

this guy can't use chopsticks

urban kite
#

me just grabbing handfuls of rice

fair gyro
#

lol

tough escarp
#

I was invited to sushi once

fair gyro
tough escarp
#

I ruined the evning for my friend

fair gyro
#

why

tough escarp
#

I snapped one of these sticks in half

#

using it as a spike

urban kite
#

ah

fair gyro
#

why snap in half

#

you can do that when they're whole

urban kite
#

using it like a two-pronged fork

tough escarp
#

it got a sharp end this way

fair gyro
#

or

#

just eat with fingers

#

it's sushi, it's finger approved

tough escarp
#

I'm German

#

we dont eat with fingers

urban kite
#

yeah but nobody says "you can use your fingers", you're just given foreign tools

tough escarp
#

unless it's chicken

fair gyro
#

you're german, you eat soup with hands

urban kite
#

ah yes, handful of soup please

tough escarp
#

wtf

urban kite
#

thank you for these third degree burns

fair gyro
#

welcome

tough escarp
fair gyro
#

are you saying you never eat with your hands

tough escarp
#

no - I did a lot .. but not this sushi shite

wary gate
#

sushi is literally meant to be eaten with your hands

fair gyro
#

is not shite

#

also it's finger apprioved

tough escarp
#

having fishy fingers .. nope

fair gyro
#

????

#

why you beinh weird doggy

wary gate
#

raw fresh fish isn't fishy

fair gyro
#

are you one of those people that don't like fish?

tough escarp
#

ok ... I eat steaks

urban kite
#

fish isn't fishy?

tough escarp
#

I donnu how you handle these rice and fish bundles ok

fair gyro
#

sushi is so fuken good man

wary gate
#

fresh fish does not smell or taste fishy no

tough escarp
#

I just snapped that tree branch in half and used it as a fork as they didn't offer cuttlery in this plce

fair gyro
#

:I

wary gate
#

Did they not even offer chopsticks?

#

cause you can east sushi with chopsticks

fair gyro
#

that's what he got

tough escarp
#

I got 2 wooden sticks

wary gate
#

Those are chopsticks

tough escarp
#

I snapped one

wary gate
fair gyro
#

they're called chopsticks, but you're not supposed to actually chop them

wary gate
#

Did no one explain to you how to use chopsticks?

fair gyro
#

no

#

I had to watch YT video to figure out

wary gate
#

I mean Doge

fair gyro
#

ah

tough escarp
#

I was sat there and it was a moving buffet

fair gyro
#

tbf

#

they can be hard to use for people who didn't grow up using them

tough escarp
#

what do I know?

fair gyro
#

still

#

fingers

tough escarp
#

I avoided fingers

fair gyro
tough escarp
#

I asked for a fork

#

and people loled at me

fair gyro
#

you can't eat sushi with a fork

tough escarp
#

so I was like

copper niche
#

ok theyre actually really easy to use doge

tough escarp
#

screw your sticks

#

I'm gonna make my own fork

urban kite
#

i gotta agree with doge here

copper niche
#

sushi is easy mode

fair gyro
#

fork will break apart the sushi, you're meant to eat the whole thing in one bite

copper niche
#

apperatives are medium

fair gyro
#

it's why they're bite sized

copper niche
#

noodles are hard mode

urban kite
#

gimmie a spoon then

tough escarp
#

I havent ever been invited to sushi since tbf

fair gyro
#

just order home

copper niche
#

umarusad 👉 👈

#

i can take u to a sushi

wary gate
#

I mean to be fair

fair gyro
#

take me instead

wary gate
#

instead of trying to learn