#no-wow-discussion

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wary gate
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epic came in and said "if you want this game you have to come to us"

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I shouldn't have to go to walmart to get the latest legend of zelda

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I should be able to buy it from whoever the fuck I want

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it'd be fine if it was Epic made games

urban kite
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And you can 🙂 (after 6 months)

wary gate
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but these are big titles

alpine summit
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But you're not losing anything from using epic games. Hell if you're really that peeved about it just set up steam to launch the epic launcher, you can then use the steam UI in any game it's really not a big deal

wary gate
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that's not the point

urban kite
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I shouldn't have to jump through hoops for it.

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The same thing you bash steam for being "annoying" with, you then defend with EGS

alpine summit
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I read big tities and honestly my mental state is deteriorating quickly I've been up for 11 hrs

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I need schleep

wary gate
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I don't want to support a company who's idea of competition is to force a monopoly on certain products

alpine summit
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They're doing the opposite

wary gate
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no

urban kite
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But they're not

wary gate
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they literally force a monopoly on certain games

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saying you can buy them later

urban kite
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I cannot play this Total War game without going through Epic for a whole year

wary gate
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if you don't wanna go through us

spice thistle
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It's not about spending money on Epic, it's about them having you to get it for free

alpine summit
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They're giving you another option and incentivising your choice to use their free product

urban kite
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But its not another option

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its the only option

wary gate
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even for what was that one game?

alpine summit
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For 6 months

wary gate
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uhh fallout in space

urban kite
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for 6 months, yes

deft vapor
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Epic builds a dam around a gametitle, and only opens it to people they say "ok" to

wary gate
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that's not an incentive

deft vapor
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that's the problem

urban kite
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I am forced to wait 6 months to have a CHOICE

wary gate
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that's a fucking ultimatum

alpine summit
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That's not a problem tho if their launcher is free. Just use steam and epic. It's big brain time

wary gate
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mate

spice thistle
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It's not big brain

wary gate
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how can you keep

urban kite
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What if I like steam? What if I want it on GOG? Or anywhere else?

wary gate
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missing the point

alpine summit
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Mate

fallen nexus
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the logic used here is hilarious

spice thistle
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Thing is

deft vapor
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but why should I use an additional launcher because the people who made that launcher locked the product(s) away from others

spice thistle
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Epic is having it for free, but not on Steam even if I have to pay for it

wary gate
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I DO NOT WANT TO SUPPORT A COMPANY WHO FORCES A MONOPOLY ON CERTAIN PRODUCTS THAT ORIGINALLY HAD NO RESTRICTIONS

fallen nexus
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Because that's how it works in the business world @deft vapor

alpine summit
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I get your point but it's null if there's no actual wall preventing you from buying a game

fallen nexus
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@wary gate there is no monopoly

urban kite
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But there is, in many cases

wary gate
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there is a monopoly for 6 months on this total war game or whatever

alpine summit
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Thulm to the rescue 😭❤️

fallen nexus
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you clearly don't understand the definition of monopoly

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no, there's exlcusivity rights, not a monopoly

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ever heard of playstation?

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they've done this for years

wary gate
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the exclusive possession or control of the supply of or trade in a commodity or service.

alpine summit
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ITS A FREE LAUNCHER. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT TO OBTAIN THE PRODUCT. 🙂

fallen nexus
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oh, and nintendo

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oh, and apple

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oh, and microsoft

wary gate
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except that's their own products

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they commision them

alpine summit
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Think you see Fortnite's latest cinematic? Give it a watch they went after apple by the testes

wary gate
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no?

fallen nexus
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and you don't think they're not getting a cut from the game sales? epic is actually HELPING developers more than hurting them

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they take a much smaller cut than steam

wary gate
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they're trying to get people on their side for specifically breaking apple's policies

fallen nexus
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as a developer, epic is a godsend and they actually give a fuck more about customers than you think

urban kite
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Yes, and they pay for the sales / free games etc

wary gate
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this is a longterm plot by epic to cause turmoil that didn't exist before

fallen nexus
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Hold on. Apparently I need to school someone on this again.

urban kite
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They've done away with their exclusivity shit (for the most part)

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After however many years of backlash, at least

alpine summit
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they commision them
@wary gate this is a common misconception. Just because you publish the game does not mean you "commissioned" it. A lot of times it's agressive practices that only hurt consumers and developers by forcing developers into publishing contracts that reduce their ability to have creative freedom. You ever hear of Halo and Destiny?

wary gate
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if I could buy it on epic, or steam, or ubisoft, or ea I'd be fine with it

spice thistle
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I meaaan...back in the day Nintendo had other companies to do their games and then get the rights to publish them on their consoles

lost plinth
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oh

fallen nexus
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So.. you're issue is that you don't want to use Epic Games then @wary gate?

spice thistle
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I think the issue here is that Epic has a free exclusivity for 6 months

urban kite
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That was the main point, yeah

fallen nexus
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Again, there's no issue with that.

alpine summit
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But it's not true exclusivity against the consumer, because epic launcher is free

wary gate
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Epic Games policy, their strategy of forcing sales onto them because no one else is allowed to sell it does not sit right with me

spice thistle
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I mean

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Playstation does it

fallen nexus
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I don't see folks up in arms over not being able to play Nintendo Switch games on their PC.

urban kite
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It's timed-exclusivity, it's still dumb and needless; they're just bullying around with money.

fallen nexus
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"Nintendo has a monopoly on Nintendo Games"

wary gate
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these aren't epic games

spice thistle
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...Isn't that what gaming usually is?

wary gate
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these aren't even epic published games

spice thistle
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I mean neither were some games of the past

fallen nexus
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Again, Epic is actually helping developers in this case @urban kite

alpine summit
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Y'all are really pressed about gabe losing some loose change so people who are less fortunate can afford new games without hurting developer income?

spice thistle
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They were just publishing it under franchises

urban kite
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Sure, I know they're taking the 6-month hit in sales and all that

fallen nexus
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Steam was destroying devs income with a mandatory 30% tax.

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Epic said "Hey, we will do 10%"

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That was that.

urban kite
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But the point is more that if I personally don't want to use the EGS, I am forced to wait however long they paid for

wary gate
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I have no trouble with that

neon hinge
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“Sony and Microsoft both provided me with personal contacts that I can pitch ideas to. They also provide contacts to pitch things regarding marketing [...] so if I have an idea for a cool promotion I can at least talk to someone about it,” Hicks explained. “Additionally, they do everything they can to provide each game with a nice chunk of store visibility at launch.”

Steam does not offer the same level of care.

“Valve has none of this,” Hicks continued. “They stopped giving everyone a personal contact, the amount of banner support you get at launch is based off title popularity so nothing is guaranteed, and I have no one to pitch marketing ideas to. If they’re going to be completely hands-off and redirect smaller developers to a message board for any type of support issues ... yeah, that’s not worth 30 percent to me. Honestly, they do as much as itch.io does and itch takes 10 percent for a default percentage!”```

https://www.polygon.com/2018/10/19/17959138/steam-valve-developer-support-pricing-reviews article from a couple of years ago, but still relevant
Polygon

Valve likes to take a cut of sales, but it doesn’t like to be responsible for the store

spice thistle
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Same with PS4 and their games?

neon hinge
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Seemed relevant

spice thistle
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Haven't you met the amount of people that want to play Bloodborne on PC?

wary gate
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I have trouble with the fact that I don't have a choice where to buy certain games for periods of time

spice thistle
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But can't?

fallen nexus
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Thanks @neon hinge -- super relevant

spice thistle
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Or Nier Automata

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It's the same here

neon hinge
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NieR is on Steam and consoles

spice thistle
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Nier Automata was a PS4 exclusive before

alpine summit
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Epic said "Hey, we will do 10%"
@fallen nexus not to mention steam adopted Apple's $100 fee policy per submission rather than a lifetime policy, while refusing to grandfather those who already paid the $100 before the change

fallen nexus
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Oh yeah, that too.

spice thistle
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Why do you think it's sucks on PC unless you have the mod

urban kite
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Bloodborne on PC or anything like that isn't the same at all. We don't know IF they are coming to PC or not, we're just suddenly told.

fallen nexus
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Fuck small developers who probably can't even pay rent with their app, right?

spice thistle
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Dark Souls too

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Heck

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Halo back in the day

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Was an Xbox exclusive, Horizon Zero Dawn

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The list goes on and on

wary gate
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I don't have trouble with any of that

alpine summit
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Bro I want my $100 back 😭

spice thistle
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Then why do you have troubles with Epic?

fallen nexus
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Then you're contradicting yourself, Kata.

spice thistle
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They are

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doing it

wary gate
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I have trouble with the practice of forcing people to buy certain games on their store and everyone else has to wait

spice thistle
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....

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That's what has happened all the time

fallen nexus
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There's no forcing you.

neon hinge
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?????????????????????

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Bruh it's PC

fallen nexus
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They are not holding a gun to your head and forcing you to buy it.

spice thistle
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It would be worse if they were entirely exclusive

wary gate
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If I want to buy this new total war game or whatever

fallen nexus
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You can wait like everyone else and buy it on Steam in 6 months.

wary gate
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I have to go through epic

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I have no choice

spice thistle
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Or wait

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I mean

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Epic is giving it for free

wary gate
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this conversation isn't gonna go anywhere

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I'm out

spice thistle
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Kata you just

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outplayed yourself here

neon hinge
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You're basically saying that it sucks for games to not release on NDS because you don't want to be forced to play on PC

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Except it's even worse because them launchers are free

spice thistle
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Like you sometimes make no sense

fallen nexus
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Yeah, being butt-hurt about a particular game and then claiming "you don't have an issue" will generally cause folks like me to call you out on your shit.

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But hey, that's just me.

lost plinth
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thulm not shitposting? this is new

spice thistle
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Ban them for being noobs Thulm

fallen nexus
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I'm a software dev for a living.

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I live this daily.

alpine summit
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Makore has switched sides 😎 gj thulm

wary gate
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I don't have an issue with them being good to devs

spice thistle
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I mean

wary gate
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That I have 0 issue with

spice thistle
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I don't care

fallen nexus
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Then shut the hell up about it lol

spice thistle
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I just came for the drama

wary gate
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i was never talking about it?

fallen nexus
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I mean holy hell.

wary gate
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???

fallen nexus
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You are running in circles.

wary gate
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mate

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I never brought it up once

spice thistle
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Kata just stuck to the topic

fallen nexus
main dirge
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if I had enough time for everything, I'd learn little C# coding to make something cool in Unity

spice thistle
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As they always do xD

wary gate
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I only ever spoke about the practice of forcing people to come to them to buy certain games

urban kite
fallen nexus
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oh, and if want to throw apple in here too

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here's my statement from my work's slack

alpine summit
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I will be fair and say my only issue with epic is their history of mistreating their own devs, but that's mainly an industry issue due to anti union policies within the industry

neon hinge
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EGS isn't doing that though Kata, them devs are 🙂 You know what? Because it brings them moooooooooooore money than doing it on Steam

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Steam has a lot of good but it's also taxing

wary gate
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like... mate, y'all kept changing the topic and then assuming I was on that topic when I was still talking about the previous topic

fallen nexus
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hi, my name is blake

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or thulm

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take your pick

spice thistle
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I mean

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Just take the L kata

alpine summit
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BA-LAKAY

fallen nexus
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yes

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thanks key and peele for that

lost plinth
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marc that is

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absolutely brutal

neon hinge
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TBQH Epic not wanting to pay the 30% apple tax seems pretty dumb XD It's a locked platform, they're 100% allowed to ask you 90% if they wanted to. If you don't want to pay the apple tax, don't be on Apple 🤷‍♂️

alpine summit
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Atleast people don't call you "Gangnam" 😭

fallen nexus
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Apple is going to lose in court over this today

heady solstice
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wtf happened

heady solstice
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how

fallen nexus
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The issue here is that you cannot force a mandatory 30% tax per your ToS and then under-the-table, play favorites with others and make them exempt from said 30% tax.

alpine summit
urban kite
neon hinge
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Yeah we agree on that T

fallen nexus
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You either make everyone play by the rules, or you make no one follow them.

neon hinge
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And Epic is playing that card on court then?

fallen nexus
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Yep!

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It's in the court documents.

urban kite
neon hinge
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Well, I sure hope they don't mind Fornite not being on the AppStore for the next 3 to 5 years then lol

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Because courts are fucking slow

fallen nexus
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Not with this it won't be

neon hinge
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Really?

fallen nexus
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This will be quick (and probably) painless.

urban kite
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and this all came out within like.. 8 hours or less

neon hinge
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I thought Qualcom vs Apple lasted like, a decade

urban kite
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epic knew apple would pull this shit

fallen nexus
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Yeah, but Qualcomm vs Apple was cut-and-dry either.

urban kite
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and had a 60 page complaint ready

wary gate
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I feel like Epic is grandstanding

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and I don't know why they are?

urban kite
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'cause they can

neon hinge
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Kata please shut up thanks

fallen nexus
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To stand up for those who don't have the voice (or money to)?

heady solstice
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Pepega ah yes general-offtopic where i get all of my gaming lawsuit news

fallen nexus
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Epic is one of the only gaming giants that has the revenue to take on Apple.

alpine summit
urban kite
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?

heady solstice
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wow gandem

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do you think everyone with the letter m in their name is the same person?

fallen nexus
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I've said my bit for the day.

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That was fun.

urban kite
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i link a post giving it a tl;dr and i'm doing something bad now?

alpine summit
neon hinge
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EGS is good to the PC industry because it will bring some contenders to Steam's, I really don't want to call it monopoly, monopoly

fallen nexus
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I say this, and the app I work on is featured on the Apple App Store front page atleast once a week.

neon hinge
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uPlay, Origin, etc

fallen nexus
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Fuck Apple.

neon hinge
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Are too small, too "their own games"

heady solstice
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@alpine summit you pinged macho

neon hinge
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Bnet launcher is like, irrelevant to Steam

main dirge
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what's up with letter M

urban kite
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and also their own games

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which isn't an issue, since.. it's their platform, they do what they want

alpine summit
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Ummm you good homie? I pinged you in response to you and used the quote feature to ping macho

heady solstice
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hmmst

main dirge
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also apple doesn't really care about all of this I'd assume

urban kite
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but why ping me

heady solstice
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im too tired for this PeepoCry

alpine summit
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but why ping me
@urban kite It's the discord quote feature 🤷‍♂️ and yes I'm pinging you to make a point. Sorry for both pings homie

spice thistle
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Im just looking at Thulm doing a 2v1

heady solstice
wary gate
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No like... idk. It feels like Epic is being really smarmy. Like they know they've put Apple in a corner and it kinda makes me like them less. Like... it's possible that Amazon asked Apple if they could sell movies and TV without the cut, they communicated it and worked out some deal. We don't know if Epic did the same or not. If they did and Apple said no then they specifically undermined them and are acting like the victim. Idk, maybe I'm wrong but that's what I see.

alpine summit
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Big brain

urban kite
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but the point was me linking a thread about what was going on so I don't see what the comment was about

heady solstice
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@urban kite It's the discord quote feature 🤷‍♂️ and yes I'm pinging you to make a point. Sorry for both pings homie
@alpine summit you can remove the ping

wary gate
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then why didn't you?

heady solstice
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to make a joke kata

urban kite
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i'mgonna shit in marc's tea

heady solstice
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i dont drink tea

urban kite
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you will.

wary gate
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heresy

heady solstice
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tea is the cowards coffee

alpine summit
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I was more resounding to the tweet, sorry if I offended

urban kite
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even the TWEET wasnt anything like that

alpine summit
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I'mma go drink beer and eat burritos with my frat bros

heady solstice
alpine summit
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I'm sorry macho 😔

urban kite
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AA

alpine summit
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You wanna come eat borritos with my frat?

heady solstice
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YOOOO

urban kite
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i had pizza earlier, I'll steal a beer instead

heady solstice
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no kapp gandem???/

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fr fr fr ur frat seems like they have some drip

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all 📠 no 🖨️

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you feel?

alpine summit
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no kapp gandem???/
it's pronounced Pi Kapp 😤

heady solstice
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no 🧢 ????

urban kite
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no billed cap???

heady solstice
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@empty swallow frfrfrfrfrfr

alpine summit
heady solstice
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no kapp?

alpine summit
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Extra kapp

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My pledge class was literally kappa

heady solstice
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damn gandem u kinda got some drip

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frfrfr

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no Kapp

urban kite
wary gate
empty swallow
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@heady solstice on a stack dud

heady solstice
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uh

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they forgot the hotdog juice

deft vapor
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marc
s
h
u
t

urban kite
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frfr

empty swallow
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AY YOU STILL GOT A STICK IN THERE YO GWseremePeepoHappy

heady solstice
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YOOOOOOO

spring heath
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why are yall so weird

urban kite
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frfr

spice thistle
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FUCK LETS GO

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500 head set

urban kite
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go where

neon hinge
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why are yall so weird
They are too young 👶

main dirge
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chicken noodle soup TriDance

spice thistle
spring burrow
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So wtf did they change with the msq roulette dungeons

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Prae feels exactly the same

urban kite
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Different. 🙂

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i don't think they changed anything with it

spring burrow
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They claimed they did change something about them

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Maybe its only for people actually on the quests for them

spring heath
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They have more work to do for those before it goes live

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So for now Castrum and Prae are as-is

spring burrow
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Oh gotcha

alpine summit
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no :Kapp:
@heady solstice lmaoooo

main dirge
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laugh tale pog

spice thistle
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Doing Seat EX

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its fun

urban kite
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Seat EX huh..

wary gate
neon hinge
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No politics please

spice thistle
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Kata

main dirge
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rina

lost plinth
urban kite
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uh oh

deft vapor
spice thistle
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fake news

urban kite
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is that the google play store?

lost plinth
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i'm going downstairs to get popcorn

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i shall check on my phone

urban kite
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You can still install Fortnite on Android, however. Epic itself points visitors to its website, where they can either download Fortnite through the Epic Games app or via the Samsung Galaxy Store on Samsung devices.

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yeah it's just the google play store that's banned it

spice thistle
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that is

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indeed the gplay

urban kite
spice thistle
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Probably because i downloaded it

urban kite
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ah maybe, even the ios store has that for fortnite

lost plinth
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play store

urban kite
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so now we can weed out the fortnite mobile players 😏

visual ember
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lost plinth
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@visual ember Were you given permission exactly to repost this what seems like every week?

visual ember
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@lost plinth Yes!

lost plinth
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mkay, fair enough i guess

urban kite
neon hinge
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Where are the shots?

urban kite
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the joke is apple trying to replace fortnite with madden

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as if they're anywhere close

spice thistle
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madden madden madden

lost plinth
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john fucking madden

spring burrow
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Finally did Puppet's Bunker

spice thistle
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Aaaand?

spring burrow
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That second to last boss

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good lord

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also the flight unit boss

spice thistle
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And the final boss?

spring burrow
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the music was good as always

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yeah uhh that was nightmare fuel

lost plinth
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@heady solstice do you still have a couple of my maps?

lost plinth
spring burrow
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oh youre queuing for pvp

lost plinth
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i've been queueing feast and like

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i might as well cap marks for the mount

urban kite
wary gate
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Cloud Tifa is a cowards ship

lost plinth
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all this for a drop of fckin clout

spring burrow
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BAHAHA

lost plinth
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like this is a bit of a bruh at this point

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cause

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one does not simply magic out an 80 page lawsuit in under an hour, this was a calculated shot for a response and they got it

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why they're going so hard on inciting a message to send idk

urban kite
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yeah no, the whole apple thing was completely planned out

neon hinge
lost plinth
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either they only looked to bait apple into giving them an inroad to call them out on their shit and it's all gone even more tits up

urban kite
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i don't think trying to radicalise a bunch of kids that play your game is clever but

lost plinth
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kiddies playing forkknife won't bother abt this

urban kite
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well they had the big event in-game is the thing

lost plinth
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that's how it always is

urban kite
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and they had a hashtag ready to go with it

heady solstice
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@lost plinth nope

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mailed them all to you

urban kite
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think some dumbass with a twitter account that plays fortnite aint gonna jump on the #freefortnite wagon?

heady solstice
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unless you sent me more

lost plinth
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huh

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i did send you more after the first lot

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but not for a few days

neon hinge
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You guys overstimate the value of the hashtag lol

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It's a court case, not a twitter battle

heady solstice
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i can mail them tmmrw

urban kite
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sure, but it's pressure

lost plinth
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kk

heady solstice
urban kite
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its obviously not gonna suddenly make google go "oh shit"

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but it affects public opinions

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gets people talking and looking all this sorta shit up and then they see "oh wait, google was the bad guy all along?"

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that type of shit

spice thistle
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Should I tag Thulm again :v?

lost plinth
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i stand by my point that the ingame event won't matter shit

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kiddies will play their forkknife and not care

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what they've done however is put it into the wider media

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drama channels, minor journalists tech channels are now all over it

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and that's the sort of tea they want

heady solstice
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ahem

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Y A A S S I S T E R

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T H E T E A

lost plinth
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commits minor battery on screen

urban kite
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crulty

spice thistle
#

I mean

#

If we do apple as a gaming company

#

Yes they suck

#

but

#

Apple sucks too as a normal company so

#

kek

urban kite
#

i was gonna say, where don't they suck

spice thistle
#

In the past

#

They were the company to make cheap personal computers a thing

#

well

#

"cheap

urban kite
#

somethings gonna burst either way

spice thistle
#

And the first smarphone too so

#

And the ipods

#

Yeah

#

the only one I would say

#

They are doing a stupid thing

#

Is with google

#

You don't really want to mess with google

lost plinth
#

that's their hashtag?

#

fucking #freefortnite?

#

oh fucking diddums

#

they literally gave apple a loaded gun to shoot them with and now they want people to cry for them

urban kite
#

lmao

heady solstice
#

whatever gets more players to get peer pressured into buying cosmetics

urban kite
#

bro you buyin the ipod skin after this?

heady solstice
#

broooooo

#

fr fr fr

spice thistle
#

what if this is just

#

just that

#

marketing

heady solstice
#

i do be buying the stormtrooperfortniteavengers skin doe doe tbh tbh

#

fr?

spice thistle
#

Like

lost plinth
#

yo guys tune in for forenore season 6.12

#

headass

spring burrow
#

Should we remember that Samsung made a phone that was literally marketed to play fortnite

#

And now you cant play it on that phone

lost plinth
#

probably why it's still on the galaxy store

#

is it not?

heady solstice
#

as much as i love samsung that was kind of a headass move

spring burrow
#

Oh it might still he on the galaxy

spice thistle
#

It came first to Galaxy Store

lost plinth
#

anyway idc, i've never played fortnight and i blame it in a large part for the ever thickening floating layer of scum on the genepool that is generation z, and I fully mean to keep it that way

heady solstice
#

uhm

#

emu

#

its fortnite

#

you fucking idiot

#

you fucking bastard

lost plinth
#

i k n o w t h a t s t h e j o k e

#
  • l a u g h*
heady solstice
#

yeah well its actually fortnite

lost plinth
#

oh fuck off bot

#

fckin forenore headass

heady solstice
#

bruh

#

tbh

#

how is fortnite still around

#

shouldve closed 14 days after launch

#

smh

lost plinth
#

lul

heady solstice
lost plinth
#

are we the ascians

heady solstice
#

this is the worst possible shard

lost plinth
#

because this fucking next generation is acting pretty brainless

#

oh god do i have to identify hat child as gen z

heady solstice
#

god

#

im just fucking

#

vibing to the SoS theme

lost plinth
#

it makes a pleasant change from mem mis

#

'what's the music here, is it just turns up insatiable? yeah. turns off'

heady solstice
#

when i go back to wow the one thing ill definitely hold onto is the sound track

lost plinth
#

okay i need to write a single line for hat child's character profile

heady solstice
lost plinth
#

-does not play fortnite

heady solstice
#

hat child is a fortniter emu

#

you cant run from it

lost plinth
#

no

#

she is blessed

spring burrow
#

Oh y’all I forgot to tell you the shit I had to put up with in Puppet’s Bunker earlier

#

A few of the dps in my alliance ganged up on a healer for their damn rez macro

spring heath
#

What was the macro

wary gate
#

balance is so much fun on ptr oml

heady solstice
#

ew wow talk

wary gate
#

oh wrong channel mb

heady solstice
#

rageeepoint_right_rage🚪

spring burrow
#

“Youre wasted space lying dead on the floor <target>”

#

Was the macro

spring heath
#

Lol

#

I meeeeeean

heady solstice
#

are they wrong though?

spring heath
#

I would laugh

spring burrow
#

I thought it was hilarious, the monk thought otherwise

heady solstice
#

||also i think answers refers to the ascians in the lyrics||

spring burrow
#

Hmmmm

spring heath
#

I think.the monk needs to open their Chill the Fuck Out Chakra

heady solstice
#

Now open your eyes while our plight is repeated
Still deaf to our cries, lost in hope we lie defeated
Our souls have been torn, and our bodies forsaken
Bearing sins of the past, for our future is taken

#

thats just my theory though

urban kite
#

a game theory

heady solstice
#

yes

#

a video game thought

#

if you will

spring heath
#

Video Game Thot?

#

I don't see Emet anywhere

heady solstice
#

wdym

spring heath
#

I feel like it's fairly obvious

heady solstice
#

in the trial?

spring heath
#

I'm calling Emet Selch a thot

heady solstice
#

how dare you

spring heath
#

do it

#

do it I dare you

heady solstice
#

2 blocked messages

spice thistle
#

DID YOU SAY

#

ANSWERS?

heady solstice
#

no

#

i said questions

#

but also mak am i just dumb or does my theory make sense?

spice thistle
#

...are these two mutually exclusive?

heady solstice
#

maybe

#

maybe not

spring heath
#

snerks

dense lava
#

So, topic of discussion.

#

Marilyn Manson covers are friggin’ amazing.

spring heath
#

Usually

dense lava
#

My favorites are his covers of Personal Jesus, God’s Gonna Cut You Down, and Tainted Love.

#

My most favorite though? Personal Jesus.

lost plinth
#

i have different raise macros, though I don't tend to use most of them

#

one says damn x, you got the whole squad laughing

spring burrow
#

I use class specific ones

dense lava
#

Nice. Lmaoz

lost plinth
#

another is I bless the {Raise} down in Africa, raising x

spring burrow
#

My AST one is a yugioh joke

lost plinth
#

another is the skyrim meme

spring burrow
#

I’ve seen that one

lost plinth
#

and my rdm one which mak knows just says 'Raise macros aren't funny. This one is, though. Laugh'

spring burrow
#

Lol

lost plinth
#

I saw a very fucking specific yu-gi-oh one the other day

#

Referencing focus as enemy target, player target, and player job

spring burrow
#

My god

dense lava
#

I never really knew how to have a target’s name in a macro. Same with target whispering someone.

#

I just wish there wasn’t a character limit on macros.

heady solstice
#

T% iirc

dense lava
#

Huh.

urban kite
#

%t

heady solstice
#

yeah that

lost plinth
#

problem is with that if you have a /wait line and are snappy with your retargeting it can call your next target instead of your actual cast target

#

So I did a map group

#

Gamblers lure had a seacloth in

#

They managed to score 4 seacloths

#

I did not win it

#

Easiest 6mil gil I've ever missed out on

heady solstice
spring burrow
#

I already love the dwarf tribe questline

#

You get to be a bartender

lost plinth
#

spoilers, i'm a day behind

spring burrow
#

oh shit mb

#

its a flavor thing, you could miss it entirely

lost plinth
#

so i'm told

#

i've seen someone popping off that it's RNG to unlock a minigame

#

but yeah i rank up tomorrow

#

Also black mage in pvp is kinda fun

#

you just kinda look around for anyone getting remotely focused

#

xenoglossy them

#

they take 60%

#

and then die

wary gate
#

are scholars good dps?

heady solstice
#

whos gonna tell kata

spring burrow
#

sure

#

Scholar is a healer Kata

wary gate
#

ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?

spring burrow
#

Yes

lost plinth
#

scholar has pretty obnoxious aoe dps

spice thistle
#

Unless you kill your fairy

lost plinth
#

on trash

spring burrow
#

I hate scholar's aoe

lost plinth
#

It does average dps, tending on above average if you manage your resources really fucking well

#

Because your resources are very finite and you need them for healing as well as chunking damage

spice thistle
#

There is

#

A new page with rambroes

#

i think

#

its just graha tia complaining that he wasn't with the wol fighting

heady solstice
spice thistle
#

Like it's actually very

#

What's the word

#

it's not cringy

#

wholesome

heady solstice
#

Tbh

#

Graha tia as a character is just wholesome cringe

wary gate
hardy forge
#

damn,there was some quality drama yesterday

#

and yes,kata,SCH is a healer

#

also the raise macro i remember someone having is "floor tanking is for DRGs,dumbass"

spice thistle
#

ei daf

hardy forge
#

i was doing the books for the gaebolg on my DRG too before my sub ran out

#

my DRG being level 60 surely didnt help me soloing xD,so i needed some aid

spice thistle
#

Im getting some gil from them but goods

#

The next phase is just gil ded

#

And the final phase before the weapon change is just

#

spamming world of dankness

#

or ifrit

hardy forge
#

i dont want the full weapon tho,i think i was going to stop at the blue glow part,which was the step after the books

spice thistle
#

Im stopping at the full glow

#

because gods the design for the zeta weapon is ugly for me

wary gate
spice thistle
#

god, two days have passed from the patch and i can remember how everyone in my fc were just collectively crying

hardy forge
#

noice

#

5.4 is last patch of the expac right?

spice thistle
#

2 more to go

#

we are at 5.3

wary gate
hardy forge
#

right,so eureka2.0 part one later in 5.3,then you get 3rd part of edenverse,2nd part of eureka2.0 and whatever else in 5.4

#

and then you get 3rd part of nier,3rd part of eureka2.0 in 5.5

#

@spice thistle ??

spice thistle
#

Part 3 of edenverse ya in 5.4

#

then 5.4 acts also as the introduction for the new expac

#

5.5*

#

fuc

hardy forge
#

so 5.5 is the prepatch basically

spice thistle
#

mhm

main dirge
#

I'm eating my lollipop so fast it burns

dense trout
#

search torsion on Google, get mildly NSFW medical condition in sidbar (not relevant to search history). Thanks Google

main dirge
#

that's not a lollipop

dense trout
#

no comment

spring burrow
#

5.5 will probably be 3rd wing of nier

wary gate
#

Wtf is that

spring burrow
#

My chocobo wearing armor I made it

#

modeled after a trial boss

hardy forge
#

i dont like the ball of pink,it unsettles me

wary gate
#

I don't like chocobos

spring burrow
#

yeah the orb is weird

wary gate
#

I think they're ugly

spice thistle
#

das it

#

now time for me to sleep

lost plinth
main dirge
#

is that a HEARTLESS

#

durururu du du duuuu du du du du duuuuu
(castle oblivion fight theme plays)

lost plinth
#

so the next step of the relic weapons is datamined via cmtool

#

and they look fire as absolute shit holy hell

main dirge
lost plinth
urban kite
#

Illegal!!!!!

lost plinth
#

fite me

#

also unironically my line would be 'prove it' so /shrug

heady solstice
main dirge
#

do you eat as

#

lala

#

or as miqo'te

#

a pretzel

heady solstice
main dirge
#

this staff looks yum

heady solstice
#

Are you ok?

#

How many drugs are you on?

main dirge
#

if it looks as shard would it taste like ice

#

I have tea

heady solstice
#

Ok

lost plinth
#

apparently some people are saying it might end up being a male only glam cause it doesn't always look right on female chars which i couldn't tell cause my hat child is flat as a board anyway

main dirge
#

so you're saying your miqo'te is male?

heady solstice
lost plinth
#

what crack is 88 on

#

and where can i get some

heady solstice
#

True

#

Who is your dealer 88?

deft vapor
main dirge
#

I just saw anime character eat dough and spit out of nose ramen noodles

heady solstice
#

What the fuck are you saying?

urban kite
#

same thing as every other day

#

absolutely nothing

main dirge
#

It really happened

heady solstice
#

88 look at what you're typing before you post it

main dirge
#

also I'm not 88

neon hinge
#

oh, the train

main dirge
#

ye the train

#

sogeking animation was hilarious

empty swallow
#

Ah yes

#

the train chef

main dirge
#

why sfx of him shooting sounds like pokeball release

empty swallow
#

idk check the credits and see who the sound director andy was

#

go write a letter to them

main dirge
#

👀

hardy forge
lost plinth
#

this is horrific already

spice thistle
lost plinth
empty swallow
#

aight ima fuck with u

#

on a stack

heady solstice
#

@hardy forge did blu but not nin

hardy forge
#

get shreked

lost plinth
#

g'raha uses cooldowns if you make him pull walls as tank

#

that's it

heady solstice
lost plinth
#

he's officially better than most players on every single role

#

he uses caster LB on trash

#

spams holy as healer

#

and uses CDs as tank

heady solstice
hardy forge
#

the mans ||ressurrected himself|| what did you expect

#

only the best AI for the guy

heady solstice
#

||he didn't die tho||

hardy forge
#

currently watching the new questlines from 5.3,just so i can comment on the spoilered content xd

#

atm finished watching ||Sapphire|| weapon

heady solstice
hardy forge
#

well,||defrosted|| would be a better term

heady solstice
#

I mean

#

He's still there

lost plinth
heady solstice
empty swallow
#

kcool 😂

hardy forge
#

just found a female streamer who's also a WAR main

#

she sounds angry just from the voice

spring burrow
#

Whats her name? I might know her

#

Is it Shenpai?

hardy forge
#

no i know shenpai from when she streamed overwatch and then persona 5

spring burrow
#

Oh she also mains Warrior on Xiv

hardy forge
#

has 670 subscribers on her youtube account xd

ember patio
#

Any hungarians?

hardy forge
#

i dont think we got any

urban kite
#

no thanks i just ate

wary gate
#

man

#

I wanna talk about wow

#

but retail's....

#

retail ain't it

spice thistle
#

go dere

urban kite
#

wow sux

#

wow more like wow why isnt this game good

spring burrow
#

Retail chat sucks

wary gate
#

we know why the game isn't good

heady solstice
#

W omegaspanishlaff W

neon hinge
#

You could try to link the actual tweet sometimes

wary gate
#

I just copy the video

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

urban kite
#

i need the AUTHENTIC experience direct from his twitter

#

makes the video really pop that way when it won't load in discord and i have to go to twitter to make it work

wary gate
#

I use tweetdeck so idk how

urban kite
empty swallow
#

why is kirby devouring her

wary gate
#

honestly

#

even if it weren't kirby

#

I'd adore a pillow like that

urban kite
#

yeah its cute

wary gate
#

well also just like

#

having a cave pillow sounds nice

main dirge
#

just got some merch with mail

hardy forge
#

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM0F7YAtW4s&list=WL&index=28&t=0s|| spoilurz,but i heard ppl liked the last boss's theme in 5.3,so here's a musical analysis of it

Let's talk about the awesome final Boss theme for FFXIV Reflections In Crystal, a.k.a. latest Final Fantasy XIV 5.3 patch.
Y'all know what track I'm talking about: Amaurot Rock baby!
It played in the Seat of Sacrifice, and it blew us all away.
I took some time to analyze it f...

▶ Play video
heady solstice
wary gate
#

I love the way they edited this

main dirge
#

Concasseeeer

wary gate
severe river
#

world of warcrimes let's go

hoary tendon
#

Hey

#

Is ff14 worth playing

neon hinge
#

It depends

#

If you like it or not

spring heath
#

Well right now it's free to play until level 60 which puts you through base game and the first expansion

neon hinge
#

🤷‍♂️

#

Is it already updated?

spring heath
#

so that's a lot of time to decide for yourself if you wanna play long term

#

yeah it happened tuesday

neon hinge
#

Nice

hoary tendon
#

okay awesome I’ll try it out

spring heath
#

also the date of my fantasy emotional breakdown

neon hinge
#

MSQ?

spring heath
#

Me, crying for 4 hours and my husband calling me Midoriya

neon hinge
#

🌻

wary gate
#

sunflower is a very good song

#

looks at top comment fuck

hoary tendon
#

Downloading ff14 rn

empty swallow
#

another friend

hoary tendon
#

Yea

empty swallow
#

If you're a WoW player

hoary tendon
#

which I am

empty swallow
#

it's gonna be super slow early on, don't stop it

hoary tendon
#

ok

empty swallow
#

It's gonna be better

hoary tendon
#

I like your pfp btw 🙂

empty swallow
#

just early with the long gcd and no abilities it sux

spice thistle
#

oh no

empty swallow
#

I love my pfp too

#

oh no its makore

wary gate
#

I just...

#

I have no clue wtf is going on

hoary tendon
#

what’s your fav anime? @empty swallow

empty swallow
#

OP

wary gate
#

in the latest chapters of one piece

empty swallow
#

The latest one?

#

or the last few

wary gate
#

like

hoary tendon
#

my fav is prob hxh orrrrr

wary gate
#

there's so many twists and turns

hoary tendon
#

cowboy bepop

wary gate
#

im just like

hoary tendon
#

attack on titan is good too

empty swallow
#

hxh is my 2nd fav

hoary tendon
#

I love hxh

wary gate
#

he can't keep getting away with this

empty swallow
#

It's Goda dude

#

insane

hoary tendon
#

look at my pfp

#

Lol

#

I also have hisoka ones and one of gon and leorio

empty swallow
#

Killua is a great boi

hoary tendon
#

I deadass haven’t watched hxh in so long

wary gate
#

Orochi?

hoary tendon
#

What’s the name of

#

Fuckkk

wary gate
#

was not expecting that

hoary tendon
#

I can’t remember hold up

wary gate
#

at all

hoary tendon
#

he was with

#

Gin and leorio

#

At the beginning

#

Shit

empty swallow
#

Kurapika

hoary tendon
#

Omg thanks

#

I knew it started w a k

#

I haven’t watched it in like 6 or 7 months

#

I’ve been watching one piece

#

And

#

Sao

empty swallow
#

Sao is absolute garbage imo

wary gate
#

also just like

empty swallow
#

same with most isekai

wary gate
#

that flashback took so long

#

Wano has felt like a lifetime

empty swallow
#

I mean the flashback was necessary

wary gate
#

yeah

empty swallow
#

I can't think of short flashbacks in One piece

#

xd

#

Oda loves them

#

Think of ||Big Mom's flashback||

wary gate
#

but I feel like we've been in Wano for forever

empty swallow
#

spoilering for mister/mrs 88

hoary tendon
#

tbh when I finished sao I wasn’t impressed

empty swallow
#

We've been in wano for about a year and a half I think kata

wary gate
#

Ok BM's flashback was highkey fucked up and depressing

hoary tendon
#

but I also wasn’t to disappointed

empty swallow
#

yeah it was really fucked

#

imagine how it would've looked like in a seinen

wary gate
#

remember crocodile?

#

he's supposed to be this all powerful like

#

emperor of the sea or whatever

#

that was so long ago what the fuck

empty swallow
#

crocodile was an emperor? GWseremePeepoHappy

wary gate
#

what was his actual rank?

empty swallow
#

Shichibukai

wary gate
#

That one

#

but he was this like... he's one of the strongest people in the sea

empty swallow
#

I mean I kinda feel like Oda nerfed him with the water weakness just for luffy to be able to beat him

wary gate
#

and that feels like a lifetime ago

empty swallow
#

Like he's in his domain in the sand as a logia sand user

wary gate
#

it makes sense, sand clumps up when wet

empty swallow
#

It's like Akainu being in a volcano

wary gate
#

I think why it all feels so long is there haven't been any breaks

#

since the moment the time skip ended it's just been at full steam

empty swallow
#

yeah since post TS he hasn't taken more than a 2week break at once

main dirge
#

Crocodile appeared way too early imo

wary gate
#

I mean in the story

#

there have been 0 breaks

empty swallow
#

oh

#

Yeah

#

It's kinda hard to have a break in the yonko saga tho

wary gate
#

like doflamingo feels like so long ago

#

because this saga is so long

empty swallow
#

Can't wait for the shanks arc tho

main dirge
#

idk yet much about doflamingo

empty swallow
#

||Elbaf poggies||

#

You'll know a lot 88

wary gate
#

I mean holy fuck mate

empty swallow
#

You have around 150 episode saga revolving around him

wary gate
#

we've gotta death with BM and mr. dragon

#

and it was a good fucking saga

main dirge
#

I remember years ago watching on yt flashback about him but can't remember any % of it

wary gate
#

that gave me even more fucking depression

empty swallow
#

I loved it cause I managed to binge it

main dirge
#

well, only thing I remember is there was fire somewhere, that's all

empty swallow
#

If I had to see that saga on my own week by week

#

I'd hate myself

wary gate
#

what was the manbaby's name again?

#

that shit made me die

empty swallow
#

@main dirge where are u at now

#

Done with water 7?

main dirge
#

slowly entering Enies Lobby

wary gate
empty swallow
#

you're about to get depression with a side of poggies

main dirge
#

it starts on 265 ep right?

empty swallow
#

The series is getting full shit seriousnow

heady solstice
empty swallow
#

I don't know, I'm not a wiki page

main dirge
#

e

heady solstice
#

f

empty swallow
#

g

wary gate
#

I hated that arc

heady solstice
#

h

wary gate
#

so much

main dirge
empty swallow
#

really?

wary gate
#

because it was a really good arc

main dirge
#

well I'm at 264 episode rn

wary gate
#

BUT JUST...

#

it's just more and more depression

empty swallow
#

One Piece is so great to me cause it's so serious with underlying meaning stuff

main dirge
#

TL Busta call

wary gate
#

also

empty swallow
#

@heady solstice when u watchin one piece brudda

wary gate
#

also uhhh the fucking

heady solstice
#

never

#

im not a weeb

empty swallow
#

wtf

wary gate
#

||the end of eneis lobby made me cry for hours||

empty swallow
#

!

wary gate
#

I would read it

#

it's such a good read

empty swallow
#

What about the war GWaobloChildPepeCry

#

You know the fucking part that I regret to this day, I was spoiled exactly what happens in it, and I still managed to cry like a baby

#

I wish I was never spoiled to just see how I would react

#

I would give anything to start one piece again without knowing it GWaobloChildPepeCry

wary gate
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||what about going merry? what about ace's vivre card? what about robin's acceptance that she wants to live?||

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I also knew what happened at the end, it didn't stop me from crawling into a ball and sobbing for hours

empty swallow
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the 1st one I actually have no idea why everyone got so sad over

main dirge
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yoooo 6th Opening

empty swallow
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maybe I'm weird xd

main dirge
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Going Merry still in 6th op

empty swallow
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HASHIRIDASE

wary gate
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||Cause Merry was like... part of the crew. The lengths they went through to get her, not to mention that she was alive, and then her funeral pyre just... fuck and she went out with a broken stern just to save them all? ahhhhhh||

empty swallow
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It's such a banger

wary gate
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I have never watched a single episode

main dirge
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agree, sounds nice

empty swallow
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I watched it up to spanish town

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then I ran out of episodes

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so I went to read

wary gate
empty swallow
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been reading since then

wary gate
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actual spoilers

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don't click if you're still reading/watching

empty swallow
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I love watching the one piece reactors

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idk why

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I like seeing people do the exact same thing for every scene

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To this day my favorite scene is Nothing happened GWseremePeepoHappy

main dirge
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I should see some too

empty swallow
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one of my favorites*