no-wow-discussion

[spring heath]

and nods toward the whole thing of us using aether in the first place

[spice thistle]

Different shields and such

[wary gate]

I think that's what I have such trouble with

[spring heath]

that's why we can do these things

Like - Garleans can't

[wary gate]

because it feels like it went through a machine

[spring heath]

they can't utilize aether

[wary gate]

it comes off as very literal and pretentious

[spring heath]

I don't mind it

[spice thistle]

They can't

that's why they use magitek

But

[spring heath]

it gives everything that flavor of character

[spice thistle]

they have big bufff bodies

Why do you think mister samurai boy was like

[spring heath]

I just don't think everything has to be uniform

widen vocabulary, fuck it

Give me wrods to learn/get used to

wow

words*

Shut up Mak

[spice thistle]

"A garlean body taht can use magic, that's unfair"

w-

what did i do

[spring heath]

I thought you were gonna make fun of my typo

[spring burrow]

lol

[spring heath]

You have to admit, it's something you'd do

[wary gate]

anime

you know how like

you go through an anime

and at the end the characters are gods travelling through space?

but at the beginning it was a lil kid with a sword?

[spice thistle]

i mean

id but

[wary gate]

it's like the end visits the beginning

[thick fulcrum]

I dunno if that many actually scale that high

Feels like an Evangelion thing

[wary gate]

that's a good way to summarize my issue

WHY CAN'T YOU JUST ASK IF I HAVE THE FUCKING MANDIBLES?

[spice thistle]

Because Ul'dah people are assholes

[wary gate]

wait

[spring burrow]

uldah is all greedy bastards

[wary gate]

the story has literally stopped

because my gear isn't good enough?

[spice thistle]

wh

What's up

[spring burrow]

huh?

[spice thistle]

Let me check

Uh

screenshot?

[wary gate]

I have to present myself for inspection

[spice thistle]

w

[spring burrow]

oh the quest where it wants you to be wearing gear

[spice thistle]

Don't they give you the gear you must wear

[spring burrow]

because stuff is gonna kick off

[spring heath]

Oh yeah you just need something of 'level' 5 and up in the main slots

[wary gate]

ok I equipped the leather wrist bands they gave me and apparently that's good enough

[spice thistle]

You can

[spring heath]

yeah

[spice thistle]

Also visit the markets

[wary gate]

how would I know that?

[spice thistle]

Ok ok so

When they require you to reach x level

Be prepared to be beat up

[spring heath]

unlike WoW, vendor gear is actually useful

[wary gate]

I hate to keep being negative, but having the story grind to a halt just because you don't have good enough gear is, to me, bad design

[spice thistle]

Or they care for you

[wary gate]

the player will figure out whether or not their gear is good enough

[spice thistle]

And then complain that the quest is hard

like how it happens on WoW when a certain quest is overtuned

[wary gate]

then they'll go get better gear

[spice thistle]

They prefer to not risk it

Be sure than being sorry

[wary gate]

honestly, these developers sound terrified of criticism

[spice thistle]

...

[spring burrow]

...

dude

[spring heath]

People are going to complain one way or the other

[spring burrow]

youre in the base game

[spice thistle]

No no

Jhock

I can actually explain why

Ok Kata

The reason of why?

Is because they failed already

[wary gate]

There is more to that comment than just what I am currently experiencing

[spice thistle]

You are playing the 2.0 version of the game

1.0 was bad, extremely bad

Horrible

unplayable even

[spring heath]

Dude people had a fit at the start of the housing revamp because plots were so expensive and actually called for YoshiP - who basically saved the entire fucking game - to resign

And he considered it

[spice thistle]

There is a reason the community cares for the game

[spring heath]

Like, Japan is an incredibly different culture from ours and we have to keep that in mind when it comes to how they design their stuff too

[spice thistle]

YoshiP might be one of the best game directors ever

People actually

love this man

He had to be called to save the game and have done it in a good way

[spring burrow]

YoshiP is a saint

[spice thistle]

Compared to WoW where

The comunity hates the dev

[thick fulcrum]

Ironically, YoshiP studied wow's gameplay on the rework of the game, didn't he?

[spring burrow]

did he?

[spice thistle]

Yeah no

He didn't

He really dind't required it considering it's not his first game

[spring heath]

You realize a lot of how gear works in XIV is based off Wrath's systems, right?

[spice thistle]

I realize the bad system of Wrath coming in raid loot

[wary gate]

how do I move the uhh

[spice thistle]

The only thing I didn't like from WoW was Wrath's raid loot

[wary gate]

whatever it's called

[spring heath]

I... I miss the Wrath methods

[wary gate]

the like threat thing

[spring heath]

uhhhh

[spring burrow]

the enemy list?

[spice thistle]

The enemy list?

[wary gate]

this thing

[spring heath]

Oh

[spice thistle]

Ah

the class bar

[spring burrow]

oh the job meter

[spring heath]

It's in the HUD stuff now

[spice thistle]

It's called Oath Gauge

[spring heath]

so pull that back up and you can move it

[spice thistle]

Yeah

It's basic rn

But

later on its gonna become pretty

[spring burrow]

yeah it gets a bar and wings

[spice thistle]

It was blue last expac

[thick fulcrum]

https://imgur.com/gallery/ahX7Q

[wary gate]

is Paladin like prot paladin in wow?

[spice thistle]

Ye

[spring burrow]

yes

[spice thistle]

Well

[spring burrow]

you get a shield throw

can heal

[wary gate]

ok how do I switch jobs

[spice thistle]

it's not as main used like shield

[spring burrow]

have you done the level 10 job quest yet

[spice thistle]

Uh you need to reach level 10 on the job, then you will be able to change

By

[wary gate]

I have

[spice thistle]

switching weapon

Ok so go to another Guild

[spring burrow]

also Kata if you switch classes, they will not be the same level as your current class

[spice thistle]

You have monk and thaumaturge on Ul'dah

Monk is pure dps

[spring burrow]

every class levels seperately

[wary gate]

wait

[spice thistle]

Thaumaturge is caster

[wary gate]

so your character does not level up?

[spring burrow]

nope

classes level, not you

[spring heath]

You level jobs, not you

[wary gate]

well not it just feels like a sunk cost fallacy

[spring heath]

J 2 fast 4 me

Uh

I mean you do you?

It's all optional

[spring burrow]

I can type decently fast

[spice thistle]

kek

[spring burrow]

Yeah taking another class is optional

[spring heath]

I also tabbed back over too late fo rit to be an even race

[spring burrow]

lol

[spice thistle]

Like this

[wary gate]

also, with abilities like fast blade, riot blade, shield bash, and fight or flight, an ability called "total eclipse" feels so out of place

[spice thistle]

Yeah

not gonna lie

[spring burrow]

Lol you should read the gunbreaker ability names

[spice thistle]

Paladin names are

oof

[spring heath]

Completely optional madness

[spice thistle]

Keen edge

brutal shell

solid barrel

[spring burrow]

mainly the aoe spells

[spice thistle]

GNASHING FANG

SAVAGE CLAW

WICKED TALON

JOHN FUCKING MADDEN

[wary gate]

what

[spring heath]

You ok there Mak

[spring burrow]

JOHN FUCKING MADDEN

[wary gate]

what

[spring burrow]

its a meme

[spring heath]

idk Kata

I'm lost too

[spring burrow]

ok so theres a meme of how to play X in xiv

and for the burst phase the maker puts John Fucking Madden

[spice thistle]

Ok

[spring burrow]

Since its the part of the rotation where it gets fast

[spice thistle]

Let me find it

[wary gate]

see, the explanation doesn't work because I genuinely don't know what that is

[spring burrow]

burst phase?

[wary gate]

no, john fucking madden

[spice thistle]

Ah

[spring burrow]

oh

[spice thistle]

That's because its old meme

[spring heath]

It's a sport thing

[spice thistle]

It's about the old player john madden

[spring heath]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

or is it

idk

idc

[wary gate]

I am now more confused

[spring burrow]

old mem

meme

thats it

[spice thistle]

ok let me get it a

Flowchart

[wary gate]

what is thaumaturge?

[spring burrow]

mage

black mage to be specific

[wary gate]

well I know what a thaumaturge is

[spring heath]

It's what teiflings can do

[wary gate]

irks me that they'd use that name though

wait this game has tieflings?

[spring heath]

😔 No

[thick fulcrum]

A shame.

Tieflings make everything better.

[spice thistle]

AH THERE WE GO

[spice thistle]

there you have

THat's a flowchart

[wary gate]

I can't even read it

[spring burrow]

yeah I cant read that either

I know its for GNB though

[wary gate]

ok

so I opened it in a tab

and zoomed in

and I can't read shit

[spice thistle]

im sorry

[spring burrow]

lol

[wary gate]

king of the hill is one of the greatest cartoons ever made

Makore

am I reading a rotation

or the bloody afghan war war powerpoint?

[spice thistle]

yes

Take these with a grain of salt

they are not meant to be used as real rotations

[wary gate]

well it's unreadable as well

[spice thistle]

It's more like

just fun

[wary gate]

and if that reference is lost on people

[spice thistle]

For context

[wary gate]

this was a slide shown to the actual US Military to describe the afghan war

[spice thistle]

Higanbana is a dot of 60 seconds

THAT'S ACTUALLY

*JOHN FUCKING MADDEN

[wary gate]

"meant to portray the complexity of American military strategy"

ok how do I choose a different job?

that isn't monk or thaumaturge?

[spice thistle]

You have to go to other places like Limsa or

Gridania

Limsa for Arcanist, Marauder and Rogue

[wary gate]

rogue?

[spice thistle]

Gridania for Lancer, Conjurer and Archer

rogue

daggers

stealth

and a little fast shit

[wary gate]

what does that turn into?

[spice thistle]

Ninja

[spring burrow]

when you get to a certain point in the story, you'll travel to the other two starting cities

and you can get the other classes from them

[spice thistle]

Uses ninjutsu and stuff like that

Katon, Futon

Weeb stuff

[spring burrow]

summon a fire breathing frog

[spring heath]

Do you ever read something that you could swear would be trolling but realize they're probably being completely unironic

[spice thistle]

Yes

I read Marc

[spring heath]

https://twitter.com/Anarchamor/status/1289400856731766785?s=20

🍞 🌹High Prince of Anarchism🍀✿👽☭Ⓐ (@Anarchamor)

I don't let turning these authoritarian titles into cutesy vetsions. Let those belong entirely to kink and other LARPers and start being freaking people instead of just Label of Authority https://t.co/s94ExCgfUN

Twitter

Click for full message

[wary gate]

me dad is me dad

I'm not gonna call him

I'm not gonna say his actual name

[spice thistle]

I dont understand

[wary gate]

because it's hideous

they want stuff like

mom, dad, cousin, grandpa, etc. to vanish

[spice thistle]

I call my dad father and never by his name

Because respect

[wary gate]

they find it dehumanizing

[spice thistle]

What

[spring heath]

Apparently it's controlling and authoritarian to call people by how they're related to you instead of their actual name?

[spice thistle]

how is family dehumanizing

[wary gate]

because you're calling someone by their title

and not who they are

[spice thistle]

Are those people stupid?

It's not a title

[wary gate]

yes

[spring burrow]

I called my dad dad

[spice thistle]

It's like a cute nickname

[spring heath]

But that's still who they are to you and vise versa

like

????????

[spice thistle]

Like

[spring heath]

and not even that

like

cousin?

[spice thistle]

I would never call my parents by their names

[spring heath]

is kinda like dude in Hawaii

[spice thistle]

mostly because they would beat the shit out of me if I do that

Ogod

Ok so

Wolf, Jhock

[spring burrow]

yo

[spring heath]

suh

[spice thistle]

Have you done Eden Verse?

[spring heath]

nope

[spring burrow]

ye

not savage

[spring heath]

I haven't touched it

[spice thistle]

Damn

[spring burrow]

its so good story wise

[spice thistle]

Eden 8

with the birbs

you see the platform

[spring burrow]

8?

or 7

[spice thistle]

Yesterday a friend tricked our blm to fall by moving around the ledge

7

and being like

[spring burrow]

oh no

[spice thistle]

"God damn it they added invisible borders"

And i moved almost fell and was like

"Oh, they actually did"

[spring burrow]

lol

[spice thistle]

And the blm goes and falls

[spring burrow]

omg

youre evil

[spring heath]

😂

[wary gate]

so

how do I get to limsa?

[spring burrow]

you'll travel there later in the story

after you complete the "Ul'dah story"

[wary gate]

wait how long is that?

[spice thistle]

What quest are you on?

[wary gate]

way down in the hole

[spring burrow]

ok so youre about halfway done with the uldah story

[spice thistle]

9 quests to go

[wary gate]

great...

also, I admit I don't really know what's going on

[spring burrow]

then you'll travel to the other two cities and see what they're about

[wary gate]

cause I try to read the text

[spring burrow]

and then your adventure really kicks off

[wary gate]

but then like, it's so much text

[spring burrow]

tbh, the city starting quests are not as important

[wary gate]

that says nothing

[spring burrow]

the only person you should keep in mind is Thancred

[spice thistle]

Ok so

Kata

[spring burrow]

and what you do with him

[spice thistle]

the moment you kick off from the city

It's when you start to do dungeons

[wary gate]

wtf is this

[spring burrow]

housing

player housing

[wary gate]

I have to go that way to get to a quest

[spring burrow]

oh just pick a ward to go to

[spice thistle]

Ah that's not important ut just anyw ard

....

What is that

[wary gate]

I just keep running into these little things that bug me and they compound

why is everything so... complicated?

and now I leave

I don't know what the point of that was

[spice thistle]

To unlock the goblet

I didn't really do that until

Later

[spring burrow]

it was the housing online quest

[spice thistle]

but housing is a mess

[spring burrow]

yeah dont really expect to get a house tbh

housing is abysmal to get a plot

[tepid totem]

What game is it?

[wary gate]

why would I care about housing?

[spring burrow]

ff14

[tepid totem]

I know that WoW is the only MMO that doesn't have good player housing.

[spring burrow]

wow has none

[wary gate]

swtor just gives you a house

for free

[tepid totem]

Unless you could somehow call Garrisons player housingl.

[spring burrow]

garrisons are not housing

WoW has no true player housing

[wary gate]

garrisons were actually the response to player housing

[tepid totem]

While the houses in the games I own of ESO and SWTOR are actual houses.

Where you can customize stuff.

And it's nice.

[wary gate]

they didn't want it to just be a house

[spring burrow]

I love my ff14 house

[wary gate]

they wanted the housing to matter

and have an effect on gameplay

[spice thistle]

Swtor has good housing

[spring burrow]

I like swtor's housing too

the homes are all really cool

same with ESO

[spice thistle]

FFXIV is just

too much

Like

I mean i suck

[wary gate]

I think I'd rather be playing swtor if I'm honest

[spice thistle]

I suck at decorating

[spring burrow]

I do want to gte back into that, I had so much fun with the trooper

[wary gate]

yeah fuck it

I'm redownloading swtor

[spring burrow]

lol

its actually on steam now

[spice thistle]

At least something works in steam

[wary gate]

I have the game downloaded

but it's not updated

how do I add it to steam?

[spring burrow]

its in the store

but if you get it on steam it'll want you to reinstall it

[wary gate]

it just wants me to redownload it

[spring heath]

Me, halfway through Qarn as AST: oh yeah I can use cards in this one

[spring burrow]

Are you farming Qarn for somthing?

[spring heath]

for levle 41

level

cuz I'm not touching Cutter's Cry

can't make me

Then I'll move on to Stone Vigil

[wary gate]

you know those virtual youtubers?

I don't understand them

you have the ability to be whatever you want

pure creativity at your fingerprints

and they all decide to be shitty anime girls

[spice thistle]

...whistles innocently

Yeah

uh

what a waste of time

[wary gate]

entirely

[spice thistle]

nodnod

[wary gate]

I get if you don't wanna show your face

[spice thistle]

i mean

it's working for them

They have audience

[spring heath]

I'd prefer if people just didn't perceive me at all

[wary gate]

can't say I understand it

[spice thistle]

I think it's funny

Mostly when

E-girls complain about it when Vtubers get more income than them

[wary gate]

I can understand

[heady solstice]

I hate v tubers

[thick fulcrum]

I have never seen them, what videos do they even do?

[heady solstice]

How is inter supposed to get money with these virtual chicks running around

[wary gate]

because, as much as e girls are not for me, they do actually put in work

[heady solstice]

[wary gate]

they play video games

[spice thistle]

The vtubers?

[thick fulcrum]

Oh like just Let's Plays?

[wary gate]

literally lets play channels

[spice thistle]

play videogames ye

yeah

[wary gate]

but instead of a real person

you are watching an anime girl

[spice thistle]

With a cutesy voice and such

[wary gate]

and every single one I've seen are incredibly fucking annoying

[heady solstice]

I can see the appeal for like

More adult content

[wary gate]

it's not though

because there are competent lets players

these people just put on an anime girl avatar

[heady solstice]

Well uh

It kinda is

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projekt_Melody

[wary gate]

...

what the actual fuck

[heady solstice]

Welcome to the future kata

[wary gate]

I'm sorry but what is chaturbate?

[heady solstice]

Uh

[thick fulcrum]

😬

[wary gate]

it sounds inappropriate

[thick fulcrum]

It does.

[heady solstice]

Like pornhub and twitch mixed

[spice thistle]

Oh i remember that drama

[wary gate]

that kind of thing should not be on twitch

[spice thistle]

It's

a websited

[heady solstice]

Yeah

[spice thistle]

Website

[heady solstice]

That's why it isnt

[spice thistle]

The drama was

[heady solstice]

It's on chaterbate

[spice thistle]

the vtubers were taking over

[timber crag]

it's it's own website.

[heady solstice]

Yeah

But its Vtuber hentai basically

[timber crag]

still technically they lost their jobs to automation, just before the rest of us

[heady solstice]

[timber crag]

the anger was just, to a degree

they made it petty over time

[wary gate]

I get it

because sex workers actually put in a lot of work

and these are just anime avatars

[spice thistle]

yeah

[wary gate]

also who the fuck would want to jack off to a fictional character?

[timber crag]

...

did you really ask this question

[spring burrow]

excuse me??

[timber crag]

on the internet

[heady solstice]

Kata

[spring heath]

I think we're crossing into rule 1 content

[spice thistle]

Yeah

But

if you really want an answer Kata

[heady solstice]

[spice thistle]

Aproximatel

[timber crag]

it really was a silly statement KEKW

[spice thistle]

86% of the total population of earth

[wary gate]

...

disgusting

[heady solstice]

[spring heath]

News Flash: Humans are pretty disgusting.

[heady solstice]

[spice thistle]

imean are you really one to judge

[wary gate]

they know they're not real, yeah?

[spice thistle]

miss getting aymeric and brochefaunt

i'd put a pepe

[spring heath]

I birthed a couple humans, humans are gross.

[timber crag]

Look, in today's world, it's better than buying dinner, meeting friends and family, going through possible abuse, no arguments, no awkward moments.

[spice thistle]

but im poor

[wary gate]

Makore

pronouns

please

[timber crag]

Just, fantasy at your fingertips without the commitment

[spice thistle]

Katakuri

[heady solstice]

Kata what

[spice thistle]

I wasn't talking to you

[spring heath]

Kata, the Miss was at me

[heady solstice]

He was talking to wolf

[wary gate]

ah

[spice thistle]

Stop assuming everything is about you

[heady solstice]

[spring heath]

Unless you wanna jump fictional bones, too

;P

[spice thistle]

nye he he

boie

insert good ol rub meme

[spring heath]

Nah though in seriousness

[timber crag]

I mean, there's quite the few to make the pick from ngl

[wary gate]

you were referring to me not a moment before

[heady solstice]

Look I'm not gay or anything but I'd smash aymeric

[spring heath]

There's much more disgusting things to be revolted by than any vague attraction to fictional characters

[spice thistle]

Ah well

[heady solstice]

True

[spice thistle]

Turns out Wolf came out there and i was like

"wait

"didn't she say about my bois before"

[spring heath]

I came out where?

I have a migraine again

[heady solstice]

Came out here

[timber crag]

Maybe we're the disgusting ones are us, and the machines are here to save us

from us

[spice thistle]

I mean

if with machine you mean

[timber crag]

insert x-flies theme

[spice thistle]

2B

[timber crag]

MHMM

Good shit

good shit

[spice thistle]

nyeh he heh

[spring heath]

[spice thistle]

HISS

yoko taro knows what he is doing

[wary gate]

wait

[wary gate]

you can't fly in silvermoon?

[timber crag]

no

not ever

[spring heath]

No

Never have been able to

[spice thistle]

Because you would see

the big hole

[timber crag]

different map compared to revamped Azeroth

[spring heath]

Don't talk about Halduron like that

[wary gate]

no wonder no one ever goes here

[spice thistle]

...

Except in RP realms

[heady solstice]

See the silvermoon C U B E TM

[spice thistle]

Where Silvermoon is the main hub

[timber crag]

They put Halduron in charge of the City revamp.

?

[spice thistle]

Lor Themar is a noob

[thick fulcrum]

Hm

Speaking of Silvermoon

[spice thistle]

He is also Urianger

[timber crag]

At least he's got a lady now

[heady solstice]

True

[spring heath]

And Fenris

[heady solstice]

True

[spring heath]

swoon

[spice thistle]

Who did he got again?

[wary gate]

nor eversong woods?

[thick fulcrum]

anyone else think the velfs are gonna mess with it?

[heady solstice]

Thal

[spice thistle]

I don't remember

[timber crag]

He needed it man, and he earned it

[spring heath]

No

[spice thistle]

Ah the high arcanist

MAN

[heady solstice]

Yes

[spring heath]

Eversong/Ghostlands
Azuremyst and Bloodmyst

all unflyable

[heady solstice]

M A N

[timber crag]

Poor Thalyssra too let's be real

[spice thistle]

He got himself a nice ||mature|| lady

[heady solstice]

[spring heath]

Rommath?

[thick fulcrum]

Stuck on TBC mapping

[heady solstice]

M a t u r e

[spring heath]

Did you really forget the mage's name?

[spice thistle]

F for my boy Rommath

[thick fulcrum]

Ehhh, Thal has story issues

[spice thistle]

First he got almost killed by Jaina

[heady solstice]

Fuck rommath

[thick fulcrum]

Rommath is just so tired of all the BS

[spring heath]

I would

[spice thistle]

now he egts forgotten

[thick fulcrum]

Hey now

[timber crag]

Rommath was going to be Archbishop Bene

[spice thistle]

Wolf pls

[thick fulcrum]

What'd Rommath ever do? @heady solstice

[timber crag]

it would had been a better story fr

[spring heath]

😂

[thick fulcrum]

@timber crag disagree

[spice thistle]

Aymeric, Brochefant and now Brommath

[thick fulcrum]

Belfs have too few characters as is

[spice thistle]

Who's next

[timber crag]

He's useless in my eyes

[thick fulcrum]

and it would've been just as out of left field

[timber crag]

both him and Halduron

[spice thistle]

That one blood mage from the Kirin Tor circle?

What was his name

[timber crag]

they need to do something with them I swear

[spice thistle]

uh

hmm

This boy

[thick fulcrum]

Aethas?

[heady solstice]

Aethes?

[thick fulcrum]

God Aethas is the worst.

[spice thistle]

That became a boytoy for an harpy

Yeah

[heady solstice]

Fuck you sarm

[spice thistle]

Aethas

[heady solstice]

Blocked

[thick fulcrum]

Such a milquetoast.

[spice thistle]

F for my boy

hey you better respect homeboi Aethas

[heady solstice]

B l o c k e d

And reported

Dont fucking diss my boye aethas

[spice thistle]

DONT TILT

[thick fulcrum]

Aethas has NO CONTROL over the sunreavers

they do shady shit under his nose 24/7

[spice thistle]

Well considering they almost got killed

woudl you

[timber crag]

The Sunweavers are barely the Sunreavers anymore

[thick fulcrum]

Yeah they are kinda purged multiple times.

RIP sunreavers.

disband em, make better group

[timber crag]

No, they merged after the purge and still suck

[heady solstice]

Like method did

[timber crag]

Gottem

||knife-ears|| amiright?

crazy folk

[thick fulcrum]

Merged?

with who?

[timber crag]

Silvermoon as a whole again

in MoP

[thick fulcrum]

They... weren't ever separate they were always an arm of silvermoon's magisters, they were just the ones stationed in Dalaran.

[timber crag]

well either way they went home

and stayed

[thick fulcrum]

Until legion

😒

[timber crag]

Oh yeah that happened

[thick fulcrum]

JUST GIVE THE HORDE ITS OWN MAGIC CITY BLIZZ

[timber crag]

a few years past, a few elves got roasted

I see no issue

bring the boys back in town

oh they did that too

[thick fulcrum]

Suramar doesn't count.

[timber crag]

It somewhat does

[thick fulcrum]

Most of the city is still phased for hostile mobs

[timber crag]

admit it

[heady solstice]

#retail-wow get the fook outta here

[thick fulcrum]

Fiiiine

[spice thistle]

AHAHAHA

[timber crag]

shoot dawg

do it

DO IT

[heady solstice]

ILL FUCKING DO IT

[timber crag]

do it

I D-double dare yo ass

[thick fulcrum]

Dowhat?

[heady solstice]

[timber crag]

Pull out two, I see how it is

[heady solstice]

💥

[timber crag]

...Shiiiiiit.

[spice thistle]

Now quick turn back into ffxiv topic

[heady solstice]

[spice thistle]

Getting Wow Gcd here

Is doable

[timber crag]

FF bad

[neon hinge]

wow is perfect

[spice thistle]

You just need a monk

[thick fulcrum]

Uh... FFXIV needs playable seeq change my mind.

[spice thistle]

4 stacks of lightning

And a lot of skill speed

[heady solstice]

Wow is perfect if you're a mentally handicapped 3 month old

[spring heath]

Can we not

like

Just stop it

[timber crag]

like what

[spice thistle]

Did you just insult inter you dumb nut

[timber crag]

like what

shit am I glitching?

[spring heath]

Anyway so I was running AST in Qarn because I like to Suffer and because my AST roulettes kept syncing me down all the time I forgot I could use cards there until halfway

[timber crag]

Need better internet

[spring heath]

and then I kept flubbing my casts

[spice thistle]

Oh please

[spring heath]

At least I got two pity comms

[spice thistle]

Just do tam tara

[spring heath]

Noh

[spice thistle]

Ez pz

Or palace

[spring heath]

Oh

Wait

I can't even do palace yet

[spice thistle]

4 runs of palace is one level and a-

[heady solstice]

What

[spice thistle]

what

[heady solstice]

How

[spring heath]

Because my AST is level 38?

[spice thistle]

...

[heady solstice]

Wolf

[spice thistle]

Wolf

It's 1-59

[spring heath]

What

[heady solstice]

You can do palace at 1

[spring heath]

OH

[spice thistle]

1-60

[spring heath]

PotD

[heady solstice]

[spice thistle]

Ye

[spring heath]

no one calls it fuckin Palace

[spice thistle]

Not Wanderer palace

...

[spring heath]

Don't come at me, assholes

[spice thistle]

WELL I DO

[heady solstice]

[spring heath]

NO ONE NORMAL CALLS IT PALACE

PALACE IS WANDERER'S PALACE

[spice thistle]

I'm savage

Ror

[spring heath]

POTD IS POTD

[spice thistle]

So go do it

[spring heath]

I don't wanna

[spice thistle]

DO RUNS

...

[heady solstice]

Wanderers is WP

[spice thistle]

It's better than Vale

Trust me

[heady solstice]

Smh

[spring heath]

I'm doing vale with my squadron

and Darkhold

[spice thistle]

Masochist

[spring heath]

Pugs are more masochistic than halfbrained AI

[spice thistle]

But are they halfbrained

When they can get a boss from 100 to 0 in 7 seconds

Just spam click engage

[spring heath]

Yeah Squadrons are actually pretty great so long as it's not Halatali

Me: No, get out of the - NO COME BACK THERE'S ANOTHER SPRITE - NO STOP GOING BACK TO THE BOSS HE'S STILL ON FIRE

[spice thistle]

Hatali hard

Or rust

[spring heath]

Rust?

[spice thistle]

... Cod meme

You wouldn't get it

Here have a tonberry knife

[spring heath]

I thought about buying that as a reward for getting CUL to 80

https://store.finalfantasyxiv.com/ffxivstore/en-us/product/626

[spring burrow]

the knife is for the offhand tool just a heads up

[spring heath]

I know

[spring burrow]

so you'll rarely see it

[spring heath]

Yeah

But it amuses me

[spring burrow]

ok

[spring heath]

and it's only 3 bucks

[spring burrow]

its funny yes

[spice thistle]

I like the tonberry story

[spring heath]

It's sad

[spice thistle]

Actually the story of the fourth-

...

[thick fulcrum]

OH What's the Tonberry story?

[spice thistle]

Fifth?

[thick fulcrum]

pulls up chair and blanket.

👀

[spice thistle]

I need a second uh

Wolf jhock

[spring burrow]

yo

[spice thistle]

The fourth calamity was allagans right?

[spring burrow]

uhh

[spring heath]

The machai cursed the Ampador because they were power hungry douchebags

so Tonberries used to be lalafell

[spice thistle]

Ampador and Nym

[spring heath]

NYM my bad

[spring burrow]

the fourth calamity ended the allagan empire

[thick fulcrum]

[spring heath]

Nym are the now-Tonberries, right?

[spice thistle]

Ye

It's sad

The Nyms didn't do anything bad

They were just scholars that liked to be sailors

[spring heath]

Listen there's a lot of Powerful Civilization Being a Dick and Wiping Out 'Lesser' and Often More Peaceful Peoples

[spice thistle]

But fucking Mhach

Had none of it

No they pulled their black mages out and was like "keep summoning voidsent"

[spring heath]

(voidsent are essentially demons)

[spice thistle]

And Ampador with their white mages

Using all the aether of the land to heal themselves

So the Mhachi send a plague to Nym

Turned everyone into Tonberries

Meanwhile all this mess

[spring heath]

Tonberry

[spice thistle]

Of black Magik and white Magik awoken the elements

Elementals

[thick fulcrum]

So cute

[spring heath]

Elements got fuckin pissed

[thick fulcrum]

little stabby seal buggers

[spice thistle]

And they were "Oh boy you are in for world of trouble"

[thick fulcrum]

So fulla rancor

[spice thistle]

Got rid of Mhach, Ampador and Nym

[spring heath]

[spice thistle]

This was the fifth calamity

[spring heath]

That's literally what the curse is called

The Rancor drives them to kill and stuff

[thick fulcrum]

Curse of Rancor?

Huh neat, they kept that mention from the other game?

[spring heath]

That's what FF does

[spice thistle]

Aye

Recurring themes

Then for the sixth calamity

HOH boy

Blame Nael Van Darnus

She was trying to bring the moon down for her lover

Literally

She brought the moon down

[thick fulcrum]

You'd think after the first few calamities they'd get their act together o.O

[spice thistle]

But turns out the moon was a prison

[spring heath]

It's the Asscian's fault

[thick fulcrum]

raises hand.

[spice thistle]

For a big angery dragon

[thick fulcrum]

Why did their lover want the moon

[spice thistle]

I'm just joking here about that

The real reason was Nael wanted to

[thick fulcrum]

Awhh

[spice thistle]

Crash the moon against Eorzea

[thick fulcrum]

Not gonna lie, that seems like not a great idea.

[spring heath]

Ok now in full disclosure, Dalamud was a 'moon' but there's a primal in it
And something primals do in XIV is enthrall people to their cause
and Dalamud's primal did just that to Nael

[spring burrow]

Nael was fucking crazy

[thick fulcrum]

Seems that moon prison had a leak

[spice thistle]

Yeah so when the moon was

Close to Eorzea

Bahamut came out, the dragon

And blew everything to pieces

Like the cataclysm but with cooler effects and a nice song

[spring heath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xOOFCltZuc

[spice thistle]

Nael was killit but there was aught to do with the moon

[thick fulcrum]

Shiny.

[spice thistle]

The seventh calamity

Hasn't happened

Yet

[spring heath]

We're in the Seventh Umbral Era iirc

[spice thistle]

Yeah

[thick fulcrum]

Clearly that's when Yukes open a portal and come to exact their terrible vengeance for not being included in the game from the start, as they should have been.

[spice thistle]

The seventh umbral calamity would have been the black rose killing everything

[spring heath]

Yi

[spice thistle]

If not because crystal husbando

[thick fulcrum]

And now yall are jumping to different dimension layers right?

[spice thistle]

Yeah

Well

Technically it's the same

[spring heath]

One

Me, still tearing up at this cinematic

[spice thistle]

God if I was to explainwhy the shards and all

I mean I would like it

Since it's easier to explain

So we know about the First calamity

But not the second and third

But we know that miqo'te started to appear around the 3rd

[spring heath]

It hurts more knowing their stories too ;-;

I only have the tank one left to do

[spice thistle]

And it's mentioned that the cat race of ffxi

Is the predecesor of the modern miqo'te

I wonder if the world of 11 was destroyed with the third calamity

Ah yeah

The job quests

The tank one is the saddest one

[thick fulcrum]

What's with the magitech tanks in the cinematic?

Garlean?

[spice thistle]

They are the XiV Legion from Nael, yesh

They all died

[spring heath]

Garleans, the segment of the army going against the Eorzean Alliance

[spice thistle]

I don't blame garleans tbh

[spring heath]

Nael was there technically against order, wasn't he?

[spice thistle]

Ye

He/she was a mad nut

OK Nael is a mess

[spring heath]

The Ascian Influence

[spice thistle]

Maybe bahamut

But ye

[spring heath]

Well Nael was a dude in 1.0 iirc

[thick fulcrum]

RIP that magitech city

[spice thistle]

Wolf Nael in the coils was like

"Wait this is not my body"

And urianger was like

[spring heath]

Well the Ascian lead Nael to be influenced by Bahamut

[spice thistle]

"Nael was a man not a girl"

[spring heath]

Yeah

[spice thistle]

And then in 5.1

"IM NAEL VAN DARNUS"

slimy cute garlean waifu

[spring heath]

Omg

[spice thistle]

What

Nael is pretty

[spring heath]

I don't remember actually seeing Nael in 5.1

[spice thistle]

...

[spring heath]

but also

[spice thistle]

whispers innocently

[spring heath]

Depressing but pretty

[spice thistle]

LOOK

CHANGE OF TOPIC

Ampador?

[spring heath]

I need to decide what I'm doing

logging out of XIV or doing one more dungeon

[spice thistle]

I'd say rest

Also if you really want to know where does she appesr

Let me kno

[spring heath]

I mean I'm caught up to MSQ

I just don't remember her being shown

[spice thistle]

Did you do ruby weapon?

[spring heath]

Oh

Nah

[spice thistle]

Y no

[spring heath]

Cuz

[spice thistle]

Ruby weapon is very easy

[spring heath]

ur very easy

jk jk I had to

it was there

[spice thistle]

How dare

[spring heath]

💙

[spice thistle]

But ye

[thick fulcrum]

Damn FFXIV is so pretty.

😭

[spice thistle]

You are missing a sad story Wolg

[spring heath]

I'll get to it

[spice thistle]

About Baelsar

[spring heath]

I clear everything eventually

[spice thistle]

Gaius I mean

Also everyone in my FC is gay for him

I don't even

[spring heath]

I meaaaaan

he could get it

[spice thistle]

Nl

[spring heath]

😏

[spice thistle]

No wolf you need to stop

You already have 4

[spring heath]

Listen

XIV is a boyfriend/girlfriend dating story

[spice thistle]

If only we could

[spring heath]

gives me way more food than WoW does

WoW with its

MALFURION WHERE ARE YOU

[spice thistle]

There are many girls I'd date there

And protecc

I'd protecc

With my life

Nanamo

Her smile is just

[spring heath]

She's the real treasure of Ul'dah

[thick fulcrum]

Wolf Harem Channel.

[spice thistle]

I honestly cried like a bitch