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oh wait a sec, ARR Yda's outfit is the entire outfit in one slot?
that's depressing, I wanted the legs
uh, I can't do mouse5+1?
i don't want her improbable shorts
only ctrl and shift as modifiers?
Yeah you can't
That sucks
I don't think so at least
@neon hinge mouse buttons cant be combod
I know you can do mouse buttons alone tho

I have alt combos
Yooooo they have a gotetsu outfit
yeah but I have 1 left hand and 1 right hand
Oh wait yeah that's clean
gotetsu pepega
pressing control 4 is just...
the gotestu outfit HAT tho
hard
g o s e t s u
i use my palm to hit control then hit a numba
you know what the trick is to pressing CTRL without moving the hand? @neon hinge
idk
Downside is it's not dyable
or I'd've gotten liberator for Sholi ages ago and made it black
I'm tall boi with my long fingers so I can press everything on my keyboard with 1 hand if I wanted to
@hardy forge no
my pinky is my ctrl, shift alt button
I can press all with one hand it's just way slower
i'd only get the ARR urianger outfit to make dumb memes
uwiangwer
whoops
Fuck that ss
@neon hinge you put your pinky on the shift button,then bend your pinky finger like you're closing the hand,and that's how i press CTRL without moving the entire hand
ez
I have it saved lmfao

oranger
yeah that's impractical
Is there nothing for brave new urianger or is that an actual item?
Well
its very practical for me,it's certainly ultra quicker than moving the entire hand down
cause i wanna say urianger's ShB is an actual glam item but i'm unsure
||That one is for the AST at level 80||
Oh duh
I probs still have my wow mouse somewhere
I'll just use that if needs be
Lina
Lyda
something
spoiler alert,lvl 60 DRK job armor is the Tsundere sid's armorset
nice spoiler dude
xD uwu e.e
u.u
i remembered her name sounded comically like ala mhigo
yes
ali and alphi have literally the same body model do they not
doesn't ali have all of 2 outfits
they're your age monte
i forget
dont be surprised
Oh no no she uh
I mean yeah
she has 3 right? not counting the dumbass flight suit from ARR?
doesnt she wear the same thing as alphinaud in arr?
ye
ye
oh yeah she does have 3
ugh can someone post one of the lines discord uses for spoiler tags
yeah they both wear the same thing, then they both change in HW, then idk if she changed again
i don't have one on my keyboard
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i forgot she got a new one in ShB
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yeah
also if the DRK story keeps ups like this,i'm going to have to call the ||FBI on sid||
alphi same but idk if you can count his ShB
cause that's just serge casting
ShB alphi looks like brd hat child literally lmao
that is odd actually
alphi gets shafted with existing assets for his outfit but ali gets unique
look what i found @empty swallow https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328992407645454337/713894812440330280/20200523_093006.jpg
lulz
i am a meme reposter e.e
||also i gotta say, that first scene where ali appears in ShB and sees you while jumping off a tower||
||i fully expected her to absolutely eat shit on the landing due to the surprise||
but i suppose ali isn't the comic relief punching bag of the two
proceeds to comically fall face flat on the ground
did you see that sweater he was in the first meeting
funny
@spring burrow made that for hat child a long long time ago
little did i know alphinaud fucking stole my look
tomorrow jhock will ask who pinged him
I'm right here
lol
i wonder if minfillia's hairstyle would suit hat child
I'm pretty damn sure she'd rock the twins' hairstyle which is why i'd absolutely buy that
is it actually possible to be the same height as the twins
Are they tall or smol?
pretty sure lalas can't be tall enough, and hat child is min height and still has about 3 inches over alphinaud, minus hat ofc
Ali and alphi?
they're like
yeah eboy and egirl
about 130cm
they're literally 16
Male miqo max height is still like, 162cm
they're literally the second shortest race
over lalas ofc
lizard girls are shorter
...which is funny cause I'm sure I remember X'hrun being imposingly tall
wow how unexpected that person that wanted to talk with me in private in a remote place ambushed me
Is x'hrun like, max height or is he artificially taller?
and yeah i did some more of drk
||Sid has that little streak of wholesome through the edge just like every fuckin sonic OC ever||
||i'm not sure which I hate more, raw edge or trope confirmation||
so fem au'ra would be the ones on same height as the twins theb
*then
cause i'm pretty sure min height fem aura is about 4 inches shorter than hat child
man lmfao ||Thancred disappeared for the whole expac I completely forgot he was here, and now he just appears before the assault and I'm like OOHHHHH right||
i gotta say
||i intensely dislike dark theme Thancred||
||i much prefer light-theme thancred||
HW boi you mean?
yeah I really couldn't be bothered especially during the whole Antitower fiasco
wait
dark theme thancred's hair
- The included hairstyle will be made available at the aesthetician when playing as a male character.
well fuck you too then
i just want hairstyles for my precious heckin hat child
alright time for the fun times, I wonder what's gonna happen
I got a trial, dungeon and probably a bunch of cutscenes to go through
uhhhhh
The finale
royal menagerie?
Ye
RIGHT
OH BOY
nah i'm gonna stop you immediately, and I mean immediately clowning yourself
immediate clown pogging
first mechanic is a water wave thing on a side
stand next to it
or get yeeted hard
EVERY TIME i do royal menagerie that causes a wipe cause 5+ people die
'oo i always forget about that'

that or arms length
Alright, I'm gonna go get some food and prepare for everything that comes now
Oh wait shit monte do you know what active time maneuvre does
Nah, it's cool I can clown myself and the mentor in group will tell me you're an idiot and leave group or tell me what to do
I don't really mind lol
fair lmfao
aight brb need food
here it is tho: ||when it says active time maneuvre, it means quicktime event which requires you to mash||
||spamming spacebar on kbm will suffice||
i'd warn you about the mechanic immediately after but you're a drg you'll figure it out

i cannot get over this pfp from one of our fc
especially since his status is 'you fool, i'm summoning the hoes'
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oh yeah that's kinda sad
And I assume it's a dungeon, right? xD
mhm
guess I'll watch some starcraft whilst I kiwi..
I'm enjoying the game so far
the story has me hooked enough
I'm in Prae on my Omen since this 4 year old laptop functions better than my new MSI because yay faulty hardware
can u call msi or smth?
He didn't buy the warranty
Welps~~
u could try formating and reinstalling windows
tho if it is hardware issue..
I did thta
why is always some rando that doesn't cast their loot?
@lost plinth WAIT NO IM AT THE PART YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT YESTERDAY

||THANCRED NOO||
aaay got new weapons
WHY CAN'T I COMMEND THOSE THAT LEAVE
the supp carried us with instructions but I can't vote for them because of dumb game design
Yeah, only completers get comms
that's frustrating
miqote earrings are nice
I've almost my bag full
should I sell the items?
Got rid of 90% of my stuff xD
That's... different
I kinda like them
ppl still play video games?
No
Well
No Titan Slaughter for my monk
Maybe for the next class ๐
Any recommendation? ^^
NIN
mhm
Honestly I'd just start going from the top down if you wanna fill em all out anyway
That also works for me
|| ***S T O R G E *** ||
he hot
He is
Besto bro
And yeah I've started Gladi
I'll tank with my face for a while
probs rdps next
Did I dream that classes get exp bonuses if they're not the highest level of the character?
Tis true
So I've a whetever X% bonus til 35 right?
yes
I've suggested that looms give an additional % based on how many 120s you already have on the account
well
max levels
Sup
I have no quests as gladiator
Like, I did the quests on Thanar as Puglist
So now Gladiator don't have them
Thanar is Thanalan btw
Hunting Log for your fresh class
Levequests
Other regions
Levequests are unlimited?
||inb4 vauthry is a lightwarden and hes gluttony or sum shit||
||>:3c||
uhm, rested exp is per-class?
Then I really ran out of it ๐
wow wow wow hold on this is different from monk
I see Gladiator is effectively a Warrior
Glad goes into Paladin
Warrior I said
Lol
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wait until you get your resource bar
It has dishminising returns
Another one hits 80
grats lass!
The facet stories are so good

Noice
isn't it a lot?
Hm?
The buff for the news
I guess I'm not noob enough
Ris be like 'Excuse me, sir, you are speaking to a bard.'
i fucking hate|| ranjit ||so much
i have to redo this whole 40 minute duty because of him

anyone that studies law or is a lawyer?

Capping my FPS through the NVIDIA control panel
Yeah
That's odd.
Which.. I couldn't find that anyway
BUT so far so good and I also haven't been getting the flickers
but it's only been a few minutes, so
too early to bet entirely on the solve
Ah
may be nice
but it's annoying me xd
and I'm sleepless
so flashing is not nice right now
Ahhh that's fair
Ok, it's been an hour on high settings with no crash
I still need to try WoW, but
I kinda wanna mark this as a success
oh no
first https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1257164625184841729 but why tho
Check out my new keyboard!
It's just got 7 switches and a button. You know binary, yeh?
Just enter the binary value of the character you want to type, and then push the button. Nothing could be simpler! https://t.co/AmCzHj55dK
3082
11630
then @spring heath so the problem is still persisting?,you talked about flickers
it could be related to the issue i had about VFX showing as black squares
and if theres too many squares(VFX errors) it gives directX crash
i might have some big brain ideas that could be solutions,hit me up later if it persists
Sleepy
I left you all hanging when I got to the end of 4.0, and as an update I have absolutely done nothing to move on from there, took like 20mins in queue for the trial and just went to bed instead
Yeah I was woken up early today
my neighbors thought it's a good idea to get some work done on their house at 9am
so here I am
That's called Hikikomori
Anyway, got monk to 35 earlier
And I started with my gladi
nice
Levemates
ahhh
There's a buff behind the scenes too when leveling classes below your highest level class
so they get more xp
So like my DRG is gonna hit 72 today, and any class I level below 72 has an xp buff
You have the road to 70 or whatever?
I only have the buffs I give myself
That thing gives extra xp till you get to 70 too
They usually give it on some realms that need players as an incentive
It's funny, people who started around the same time as me on the same realm have the buff but I logged in at the wrong time or something and didn't get it
Yeah same with Odin
like 30 player queues consistently
Anyway I'm with levemates because I don't want to go to limsa or gridania and just steal the quests from the classes that start there lul
no more uldah sidequests?
mhm
levequests are basically repeatable worldquests that give a little xp
i know i used them too to lvl in the free trial xD
but generally you use PotD to lvl
but you need 3 other ppl for that
levemates are kinda nice on exp actually
it now started to slow down
after lvl17 aprox
technically you can do potd solo
but it's like trying to solo a dungeon yourself,really not recommend-able,especially if you're lvl 1 in PotD
also i just realized that in E8 raid, "if you dont turn around when ||she changes clothes|| you get stunned"
damn SE at it again
it's early dawg
we're not all aussies
Ok they saved the dragoon questline for SB instantly, nice
7:30pm
it's prime time for me
my pc should be ready in the next couple days ๐
now kith
lul
@empty swallow you see now why i forgot entirely lmfao
plus like no off but on a lala it kinda just looks like
a regular drg wearing that armor melted in the sun
not helped by the armor having weird asf colours
70 sets were hit and miss anyway
RDM's is fly, brd's is fly, drg's sucked ass, sch's sucked ass, i never liked smn's anyway, i can take war/pld's or leave it i have my glams already
all of SCHs suck ass because they're 4 different flavors of "university graduate"
smn are hit and miss,some are kool,some arent

@hardy forge thank you for repeating the same sentence
you're welcome ๐ ฑ๏ธonte
dps is fun
I think it's just the trial is kinda shi
cause I sat in queeu for like 30 last night
then slept
ouch
food hasnt come yet?
but also
why are eating rightbefore sleep
do i smell fucked up sleeping schedule
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no, I bought amazon
And I'm waiting for it
Bought 100โฌ worth of instant noodles
So I have enough til winter
Oh so that's what action time manuveur is
And my sleeping schedule was already fucked lol
did you mash successfully
Haven't you realized I always wake up at 4pm cest?
monte ngl your challenge is live long enough to lb3
imagine eating only instant noodles for an entire season O.O
poor pizzaland me cant even fathom that thought
I mix them with other stuff
imagine being dafire
thanks nook,appreciate it
Plus the spicy is good
Hmmmm
has been a long time since i've seen the ayaya emote
Somewhat successful trial
0 wipes, but I died once
I realized too late that I had to mash, even with my macro which spams left click I was too alte
monte is bad
Rip
i didnt even know what active time was,but since i've played a lot of other games that presented it that way
Still got to lb3 tho and did all the mechancis right
Ngl what always kills me on shinryu is the tail has broken only one platform under it
But not the other
So I tunnel vision and fall through it
yo it's everyone's favourite garlean megachad
there's many times where i doubt that i'm conventionally funny at all and that was one of them
?
it took me a moment to get the joke
I still haven't got it
i was like "if you wanted to make a rebus,you should have put them all into the same picture" @lost plinth
issa wrap
probably accurate
F benos
I swear someone posted this already
every day
day 657: shake shake, shake shake a shake it
i have such a number of clowns here blocked now #retail-wow starts to look hella weird sometimes
line spamming from discord 
he's such a bro
I have everything muted except OT
wtfff
||What did Elidibus look like that scared the mfin emperor
||
I bet it's something to do with shadowbringers

meanwhile this dude is living a simple life
indeed
smn opener is ez
you repeat the same action/rotation,3 times,one with ifrit/garuda,then bahamut,then phoenix
yeah it's just a uhhh ruin III, assault I (energy drain 3D), assault II (devotion DWT), assault I (enkindle), ruin III (fester 3D), ruin III (deathflare bahamut)
easy
now let's try it again and try not to fuck it up this time
i can do the bahamut rotation
oddly
you have your bahamut, then you ruin IV akh morn fester ruin IV, ruin III x2 ruin IV akh morn, ruin III ruin IV swiftcast ruin III bahamut fucks off
simple right
NOOOOOOO WAYYYYY
@lost plinth maybe you're being a little too strict with yourself here
monte, rule 1 of storytelling
and repeat
Except that time
aha yeah
When ||papalymo|| died
the greatest student
dat beard

i like it
@lost plinth I'm gonna be honest ||I thought yotsuyu lived, but like we saw gosetsu literally alt+f4 so I"m confused how he lived||
@lost plinth
The big things you have to care about,
Is 3:
- you ALWAYS get2 bahamut/phoenix laserbeams off
- you ALWAYS have egi assault on cooldown
- you never reach max stacks of ruin4(and thus cant earn anymore)
Anything else is flexible
Because the rotation vs training dummy isnt the same as a high mobility boss
Thats one of the classic blunders
Because poetics gear is "catch up"
Its the highest ilvl you could get when it was current i think,aka last raid lvl of gear
I don't remember it being that high of a jump from questing to poetics in HW
ok tho dafire i gotta say
now i practiced my smn
i absolutely fucking DUNKED on this balmung smn in grand cosmos jesus christ
@hardy forge gotta understand your free weaves too i feel
like i'm always hitting ruin III into egi assault
bio is free too
past that it's just Hat Child: The Clipping Strikes Back
I keep my egi assaults and aetherflow things for when i have to move
Making sure they're always on cooldown
mm see i disagree, i think if you're maximising your gcd usage and weaving time
consider this
Obviously if we are saying "top dps big D dmg turret better than a BLM"
Obviously you're going to do everything instantly
But if we're talking actually doing mechanics and NOT losing any damage while moving
My strategy works best
Unless you like floor pov that is
i mean my strategy's indirectly the same
You cant press things while you're moving if you already used them all up in the opener
if you consider your rule of thumb on paper is hardcast ruin III>egi assault (tri-D fester) hardcast ruin III
's not like they've got a very long cooldown
Some mechanics have you moving for a lot,so having more than one on hand to use is good,
's to the extent i'd much prefer squishing potency into my GCDs and keeping it rolling than saving those tools for movement alone
Oh truw
that i don't disagree
Obviously if boss doesnt have muh movement,you're going to bust it all in the opening
but basically for my opener and bahamut I'm stood still for about 3 ruin III casts from pull til bahamut fucks off
then you have some whatever filler time
then phoenix is obviously free movement in its entirety
With my strat,since you're always having them on cooldown(aka always ruin4s ready and at least 1 egi assault ready)
You are not wasting any cooldowns
Just postponing the dmg like a dot
ye
But the damage should be the same as the burst
i'm a brd my guy dead GCDs are a sin to me
ah well, if i can utterly dunk on balmung smns in expert roulette, i'm happy
(and also kinda dunk on the tank, half a full enmity bar is scary)
looks like a lot of FF14 players here - I was thinking of taking a break from WoW and giving it a try, but I was reading that an upcoming patch is going to overhaul the starting experience, which I've heard is one of the worst parts of the game
is it worth waiting for and any idea when it will be out?
FF14 is a nice side activity for wow players - it's true.
I'm just tired of everyone in wow being so competitive and obsessed with numbers and crap. FF seems like a more wholesome experience that has a lot more than just raids and stuff (Meaningful profs, housing, etc.)
also getting tired of being an altoholic as well and FF14 seems to address that lol
I've honestly never have issues over numbers on wow
I guess my issue is just that Blizz gives so much information about things that players use to make the game less enjoyable. Things like raider.io, meters, simming, etc.
Just.. don't use them?
I don't
well I use meters
but I'm saying that your experience with the game is largely based around those a
yeah - using meters can cause this issue
I have never heard anyone complain about doing less damage than another player that didn't use meters
idk man unless you're actively doing high end content nobody really cares about your numbers
are you talking about WoW or FF? Because that is not my experience at all. I've played this game since and vaniilla and you can't escape it imo.
people just tend to be very competitive it seems
but then they compare themselves to other players they shouldn't compare themselves to
All I'm saying is I'm looking for an experience where being competitive doesn't filter down to all levels of content
I don't mind their being competitiveness and I enjoy it to some degree, but I don't want to have to think about it all the time
that's mainly why I'm interested in FF
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like if another player has the best on slot corruptions they expectedly do a lot of extra damage
and when you compare a player with less optimal gear to them they will do bad
but instead of comparing themselves to lesser equipped people
people for some reason explain the game is at fault for them doing low damage and get frustrated
@stable rain not so much the starting experience for FF
more so the gauntlet of 100 consecutive fetchquests in the post-story of the basegame that don't really matter for story
nice
I wonder how the F did ARR even manage to revive the game lol
if they're still now fixing shit from it
because 1.0 was a dire game
Nothing is wrong with ARR
@neon hinge I dare you to type that Vanilla had QoL, or TBC
ARR 
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ARR is from 2010
One would expect a bit of QoL already added
Also, we're not on ARR anymore
like what
We're on ShB
and have the WoW expansions improved the early game experience?
They only made it faster to get through so nobody sees the glaring problems
I mean, wow legion/bfa doesn't have 58-60 grind like vanilla had
I was complaining that I found odd that they're still QoLing out some ARR stuff, like a fetch msq that does nothign
They're just removing quests that are part of the later cycle which don't really add much, but were patch content
you realize the quests are mandatory yes
so they're improving them
WoW has nothing mandatory really lmfao
people are speedleveling with minimal quests
Yeah, that's great
So you'd rather they remove the need to do content than fix it?
Like I'm all for criticisms of games, but to say there's no QoL is pretty weirdchamp
Like I seriously dislike some of these dungeons in ff14 compared to WoW because they're all basically done with a pull all the way to boss, nuke trash, nuke boss format
I mean, if the quests are mandatory just for the sake of them being mandatory eh
You already heard me complaining about having to pause questiong because I need to do a dungeon
And that complaint is not the games fault, you had a queue time that was a bit long
It's kinda of a pause for a boring dungeon with some nice cinematics
It's to introduce players to dungeons
ofc it's gonna be a boring easy dungeon
xd
seriously man
some dungeons have story tied behind them
yeah
And those are nice, when it's the story time and not the "okay, let's spend half a minute clearing this pack of mobs so we can continue with this mandatory tutorial"
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So you'd rather skip? go buy one
idk
The only criticism I have for ARR and the only one I see as valid for a "new" game experience is that it's pretty slow to get through
And they're making it faster by removing some of the requirements for some quests and like the needed amounts
You don't want QoL, you want to speedrun
hope nobody is clowning themselves

@neon hinge you know what the solution for "i was getting invested then they made me wait half an hour for a dungeon" is?
play a healer(and to a lesser extent a tank)
ez
you get invested in the story,they tell you to do a dungeon,you click on the dungeon,
instant 0.1second queue timer
boom,straight into dungeon without downtime

we're back in action,and for today's praetorium adventures episode 19:
is the game ever gonna be just a buy without monthly payment?
incredibly unlikely,however you can "monthly payment" with the ingame currency
how
how much gold
and it pays for 1 month of playtime
for a token
1 wow token/month?
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how u supposed to get that?
nope
there is no wow token for classic,only modern wow
i did the new one to lvl 20
well,i can tell you that 112k is really kinda cheap for a token
i told you the prices get higher with more demand
and go down with less demand
i remember the prices went up to 500k per token when the current expansion launched like 2 years ago
how long would it take u to get that much gol
that is a very little amount of gold
for a lvl 20?
the standard ยฃ40 one?
i dont have the details at hand,
however you might want to look into the
woweconomy discord
for gold-making strategies
what if i dont have enough gold?
do i just have to pay?
thats shit if i go on holiday or somewhere
well you can stockpile gold
wym
a lot of people in that discord have millions of gold
can people give u gold?
also yes,through trade
if you find someone willing,though begging isnt going to get you places
yeah
you cant trade gold as a starter account tho
u mean on the free one?
ye
yes
oh yeah ik
the two shibes conversing ๐ค

from lvl 20 to what level do u think i could get in a month?
would i have enough gold?
easy
just leveling wont give you enough gold
in a month?
thats why i suggest the woweconomy discord
at 110 you could maybe try to farm raw gold from dungeons
nah bad idea
that sounds boring
better try crafting mats
the thing is: you wont get your month for free,either you pay in effort by farming gold,or you pay with money
its as simple as that
thats shit
yeah
almost every mmo has that system
theyre literally focused on grinds and doing the same content over and over
its a game tho
blizzard is one of the very few mmos that gives you the chance to pay with ingame currency
u buy it u have it
yes
they need to pay for servers etc
only singleplayer games are buy and own
every game i have is online and not monthly payed
ok
thats free to pay
but do you have an mmo that isnt pay every month?
you play free,and then there is a store attached to it
theyre all filled with microtransactions
where you buy boosts
or local multiplayer
^
Think of an MMO more as a gaming service
if they have servers, theyre either filled with microtransactions
or they dont actually have servers
^
any game thats free to play HAS a store
or pay once with servers
no one is running a charity here
cheers anyways boys ima head out this shit aint for me
returning to our normally scheduled program
You have to pay to play on XBox or PSN servers for most games, which is why there's PS+ and XBox gold or whatever it's called
That's how MMOs are too
think of it like this ...
wow is like buying cable tv. you buy the sub to get cable yeah you HAVE it but its not activated until you pay it.
praetorium followup
Lol
the first message was "hippity hoppity on my way to break gaius's property"
i will eventually have to do a folder of names like wolf
Lol
@spring heath hows the problematic laptop doin xd
how y'all like EU times deserted eulmore
he got isekaid
imagine playing on US servers in EU times
I haven't gotten out of bed yet
limsa's also relatively ded
I got a little more than an hour of flawless playing last night before it fatal errored again
hes on eu
It 11am here
Nice prime time
Hey guys new anime show coming call "rant a girlfriend"
This is very questionable on the whole another level

Lol
@heady solstice fun fact: there is actually where you can rent a girlfriend in japan
Service
It is also mention in pensona 5 game
But then again how weird if you order that and it turn out your teacher doing this job part time
rant like complain about them? 
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and we're back with the praetorium saga episode 20:
Well i hope your day not fright

@hardy forge btw wouldnt it be faster to have a party of blue mage and 5 min speed run vale dungeon?
well you see
aurum vale is not good xp
and im trying to lvl DRK
AND get the event tomestones
at the same time
big brain
If you're looking for content to speedrun that'll give you the MOST Tombstone in a short period, here's the best dungeon.
What you'll need:
1 Tank (NOT Blue Mage, too squishy.)
3 DPS (Pref at least 1 Blu Mage, more if you can get them)
AoE Sleep Spell (Blue or Black Mage)
BLU...
Ok i see
I thought you need to have a quick farm on those item
And not worry about leveling up your job
There are 0 blue mages at 80
blus stop at 60
It suck i can blow myself up by spamming

we got this beautiful ballerina
instead of ganon dorf,it's ganon Dork,because it's ganon dorf(skintone matches) in a dorky ballerina outfit
also fashion leader
first bad stick of RAM ive seen in 25 years
any piece of hardware can be "bad" or "go bad" due to infinite circumstances,the fact you havent seen one in 25 years
is testament to the strict quality control
and ram's lack of moving parts and quite low power consumption
tested for 3 days just to prove it was the DIMM
was so hoping there was a driver issue to explain the bsods since thats the likely cause but no :(
we got sweet sensation over here @spring heath
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