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empty swallow
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like dudee

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that mount is BiS, I wanted it for free

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I don't care much for the rest tho

lost plinth
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oh wait a sec, ARR Yda's outfit is the entire outfit in one slot?

spring heath
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Yeah

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Cid's is too

lost plinth
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that's depressing, I wanted the legs

neon hinge
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uh, I can't do mouse5+1?

lost plinth
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i don't want her improbable shorts

neon hinge
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only ctrl and shift as modifiers?

empty swallow
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Yeah you can't

neon hinge
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That sucks

empty swallow
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I don't think so at least

hardy forge
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@neon hinge mouse buttons cant be combod

empty swallow
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I know you can do mouse buttons alone tho

heady solstice
hardy forge
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only shift and control i think

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can be combod

empty swallow
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I have alt combos

spring heath
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and the boots are basically the same

lost plinth
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Yooooo they have a gotetsu outfit

neon hinge
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yeah but I have 1 left hand and 1 right hand

lost plinth
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Oh wait yeah that's clean

empty swallow
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gotetsu pepega

neon hinge
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pressing control 4 is just...

lost plinth
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the gotestu outfit HAT tho

neon hinge
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hard

empty swallow
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g o s e t s u

lost plinth
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gose

heady solstice
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i use my palm to hit control then hit a numba

lost plinth
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Oh

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yeah

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how long have I spelled that wrong

hardy forge
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you know what the trick is to pressing CTRL without moving the hand? @neon hinge

empty swallow
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idk

spring heath
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Downside is it's not dyable

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or I'd've gotten liberator for Sholi ages ago and made it black

empty swallow
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I'm tall boi with my long fingers so I can press everything on my keyboard with 1 hand if I wanted to

neon hinge
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@hardy forge no

empty swallow
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my pinky is my ctrl, shift alt button

lost plinth
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i do like the lyse shoes

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might take that

neon hinge
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I can press all with one hand it's just way slower

lost plinth
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i'd only get the ARR urianger outfit to make dumb memes

empty swallow
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orange

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is there another urianger outfit I don't know about?

heady solstice
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uwiangwer

lost plinth
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whoops

empty swallow
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Fuck that ss

hardy forge
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@neon hinge you put your pinky on the shift button,then bend your pinky finger like you're closing the hand,and that's how i press CTRL without moving the entire hand

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ez

empty swallow
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I have it saved lmfao

heady solstice
hardy forge
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oranger

neon hinge
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yeah that's impractical

lost plinth
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Is there nothing for brave new urianger or is that an actual item?

spring heath
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Well

hardy forge
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its very practical for me,it's certainly ultra quicker than moving the entire hand down

lost plinth
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cause i wanna say urianger's ShB is an actual glam item but i'm unsure

spring heath
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||That one is for the AST at level 80||

lost plinth
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Oh duh

neon hinge
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I probs still have my wow mouse somewhere

lost plinth
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Like brd's is renda-rae's

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and dnc's is whats-her-name's

neon hinge
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I'll just use that if needs be

spring heath
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Lina
Lyda
something

hardy forge
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spoiler alert,lvl 60 DRK job armor is the Tsundere sid's armorset

empty swallow
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nice spoiler dude

lost plinth
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not nashmeira is it?

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Ranaa

hardy forge
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i mean,it was kinda obvious

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it was going to be his armor

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xD

empty swallow
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xD uwu e.e

hardy forge
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u.u

lost plinth
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i remembered her name sounded comically like ala mhigo

empty swallow
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holy shit alisaie is skinny

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she's a twig dude wtf

hardy forge
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yes

lost plinth
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ali and alphi have literally the same body model do they not

heady solstice
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literally the same as alphy

empty swallow
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idk

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but I just saw her not wearing the whole big garb and she's a twig

lost plinth
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doesn't ali have all of 2 outfits

hardy forge
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they're your age monte

lost plinth
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i forget

hardy forge
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dont be surprised

heady solstice
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yeah she has 2 outifts

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iirc

lost plinth
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Oh no no she uh

empty swallow
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I mean yeah

lost plinth
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she has 3 right? not counting the dumbass flight suit from ARR?

heady solstice
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doesnt she wear the same thing as alphinaud in arr?

hardy forge
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ye

lost plinth
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ye

heady solstice
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oh yeah she does have 3

lost plinth
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ugh can someone post one of the lines discord uses for spoiler tags

empty swallow
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yeah they both wear the same thing, then they both change in HW, then idk if she changed again

lost plinth
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i don't have one on my keyboard

empty swallow
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|

heady solstice
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i forgot she got a new one in ShB

hardy forge
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|

lost plinth
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ta

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||one for HW, one for SB, one for ShB||

heady solstice
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yeah

empty swallow
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why would you spoiler taht

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pepeja

hardy forge
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also if the DRK story keeps ups like this,i'm going to have to call the ||FBI on sid||

lost plinth
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alphi same but idk if you can count his ShB

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cause that's just serge casting

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ShB alphi looks like brd hat child literally lmao

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that is odd actually

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alphi gets shafted with existing assets for his outfit but ali gets unique

hardy forge
spring heath
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lulz

empty swallow
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Too late

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I saw it like 3 times today boomer

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gotta up your game

hardy forge
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i am a meme reposter e.e

lost plinth
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||also i gotta say, that first scene where ali appears in ShB and sees you while jumping off a tower||

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||i fully expected her to absolutely eat shit on the landing due to the surprise||

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but i suppose ali isn't the comic relief punching bag of the two

hardy forge
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proceeds to comically fall face flat on the ground

lost plinth
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if it was alphinaud

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that would happen

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that would absolutely have happened

hardy forge
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did you see that sweater he was in the first meeting

lost plinth
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funny

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@spring burrow made that for hat child a long long time ago

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little did i know alphinaud fucking stole my look

hardy forge
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tomorrow jhock will ask who pinged him

spring burrow
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I'm right here

hardy forge
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lurking in the shadows

spring burrow
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lol

lost plinth
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i wonder if minfillia's hairstyle would suit hat child

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I'm pretty damn sure she'd rock the twins' hairstyle which is why i'd absolutely buy that

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is it actually possible to be the same height as the twins

neon hinge
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Are they tall or smol?

lost plinth
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pretty sure lalas can't be tall enough, and hat child is min height and still has about 3 inches over alphinaud, minus hat ofc

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Ali and alphi?

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they're like

neon hinge
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yeah eboy and egirl

lost plinth
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well yeah, actually about 4 foot 5

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if you consider hat child

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if not a bit shorter

neon hinge
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You're speaking in a language I don't follow

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D:

lost plinth
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about 130cm

neon hinge
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I think I set my cat to tallest XD

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That's.. very small

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Like, child size

lost plinth
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they're literally 16

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Male miqo max height is still like, 162cm

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they're literally the second shortest race

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over lalas ofc

spring heath
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lizard girls are shorter

lost plinth
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...which is funny cause I'm sure I remember X'hrun being imposingly tall

neon hinge
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wow how unexpected that person that wanted to talk with me in private in a remote place ambushed me

lost plinth
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Is x'hrun like, max height or is he artificially taller?

heady solstice
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level 77

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ez

lost plinth
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and yeah i did some more of drk

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||Sid has that little streak of wholesome through the edge just like every fuckin sonic OC ever||

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||i'm not sure which I hate more, raw edge or trope confirmation||

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so fem au'ra would be the ones on same height as the twins theb

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*then

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cause i'm pretty sure min height fem aura is about 4 inches shorter than hat child

empty swallow
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man lmfao ||Thancred disappeared for the whole expac I completely forgot he was here, and now he just appears before the assault and I'm like OOHHHHH right||

lost plinth
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i gotta say

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||i intensely dislike dark theme Thancred||

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||i much prefer light-theme thancred||

empty swallow
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HW boi you mean?

lost plinth
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ye

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that shit sucks

empty swallow
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yeah I really couldn't be bothered especially during the whole Antitower fiasco

lost plinth
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wait

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dark theme thancred's hair

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  • The included hairstyle will be made available at the aesthetician when playing as a male character.
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well fuck you too then

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i just want hairstyles for my precious heckin hat child

empty swallow
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alright time for the fun times, I wonder what's gonna happen

lost plinth
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nothing fits

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what're you on?

empty swallow
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I got a trial, dungeon and probably a bunch of cutscenes to go through

lost plinth
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uhhhhh

empty swallow
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The finale

lost plinth
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royal menagerie?

empty swallow
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Ye

lost plinth
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RIGHT

spring burrow
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OH BOY

lost plinth
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mechanic check

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i gotta say this

empty swallow
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no spoilers

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I like to find out

lost plinth
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nah i'm gonna stop you immediately, and I mean immediately clowning yourself

empty swallow
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immediate clown pogging

lost plinth
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first mechanic is a water wave thing on a side

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stand next to it

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or get yeeted hard

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EVERY TIME i do royal menagerie that causes a wipe cause 5+ people die

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'oo i always forget about that'

empty swallow
lost plinth
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that or arms length

empty swallow
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Alright, I'm gonna go get some food and prepare for everything that comes now

lost plinth
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Oh wait shit monte do you know what active time maneuvre does

empty swallow
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who

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what

lost plinth
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uhh

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you want help on how to not clown yourself step 2

empty swallow
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Nah, it's cool I can clown myself and the mentor in group will tell me you're an idiot and leave group or tell me what to do

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I don't really mind lol

lost plinth
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fair lmfao

empty swallow
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aight brb need food

lost plinth
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here it is tho: ||when it says active time maneuvre, it means quicktime event which requires you to mash||

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||spamming spacebar on kbm will suffice||

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i'd warn you about the mechanic immediately after but you're a drg you'll figure it out

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especially since his status is 'you fool, i'm summoning the hoes'

neon hinge
neon hinge
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oof

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this questline

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To the Haukke Manor

empty swallow
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oh yeah that's kinda sad

neon hinge
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And I assume it's a dungeon, right? xD

spring heath
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mhm

neon hinge
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guess I'll watch some starcraft whilst I kiwi..

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I'm enjoying the game so far

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the story has me hooked enough

spring heath
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I'm in Prae on my Omen since this 4 year old laptop functions better than my new MSI because yay faulty hardware

neon hinge
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can u call msi or smth?

spring heath
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He didn't buy the warranty

neon hinge
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Welps~~

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u could try formating and reinstalling windows

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tho if it is hardware issue..

spring heath
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I did thta

neon hinge
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Figured

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ah man

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hw issues are never fun

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oh

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that was fast

deep bluff
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IM SUPER CONSTIPTED RN

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smh

neon hinge
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why is always some rando that doesn't cast their loot?

heady solstice
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@lost plinth WAIT NO IM AT THE PART YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT YESTERDAY

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||THANCRED NOO||

neon hinge
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aaay got new weapons

spring burrow
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OH MARC IS THERE

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OH BOY

heady solstice
neon hinge
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the supp carried us with instructions but I can't vote for them because of dumb game design

spring heath
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Yeah, only completers get comms

neon hinge
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But we did complete

spring heath
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Ohhhhhhhh people who dip out

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yeah

neon hinge
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All the 4 of us

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yeah

spring heath
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that's frustrating

neon hinge
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It's ???

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W H Y

heady solstice
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bruh

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this game is baiting me

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wtf

neon hinge
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aaaah

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I got earrings

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I love them

spring burrow
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miqote earrings are nice

neon hinge
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I've almost my bag full

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should I sell the items?

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Got rid of 90% of my stuff xD

spring heath
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Oh, yeah

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PvP bars are odd

neon hinge
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I kinda like them

deep bluff
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ppl still play video games?

spring heath
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No

neon hinge
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Well

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No Titan Slaughter for my monk

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Maybe for the next class ๐Ÿ˜„

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Any recommendation? ^^

spring heath
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NIN

neon hinge
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ninja?

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That's rogue?

spring heath
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mhm

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Honestly I'd just start going from the top down if you wanna fill em all out anyway

neon hinge
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That also works for me

heady solstice
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|| ***S T O R G E *** ||

neon hinge
spring heath
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He is

spice thistle
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Besto bro

neon hinge
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And yeah I've started Gladi

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I'll tank with my face for a while

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probs rdps next

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Did I dream that classes get exp bonuses if they're not the highest level of the character?

spring heath
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Tis true

neon hinge
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So I've a whetever X% bonus til 35 right?

spring heath
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yes

neon hinge
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That's cool

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Blizzard could take a couple notes

spring heath
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I've suggested that looms give an additional % based on how many 120s you already have on the account

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well

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max levels

neon hinge
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I'd love that

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So, problem

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@spring heath

spring heath
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Sup

neon hinge
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I have no quests as gladiator

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Like, I did the quests on Thanar as Puglist

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So now Gladiator don't have them

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Thanar is Thanalan btw

spring heath
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Hunting Log for your fresh class
Levequests
Other regions

neon hinge
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Levequests are unlimited?

spice thistle
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you has levequest allowances

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Maximun of 100

neon hinge
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Okay

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100 seems a lot

heady solstice
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||inb4 vauthry is a lightwarden and hes gluttony or sum shit||

spring heath
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||>:3c||

neon hinge
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uhm, rested exp is per-class?

spring heath
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Nope

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It's all shared

neon hinge
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Then I really ran out of it ๐Ÿ˜„

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I see Gladiator is effectively a Warrior

spring heath
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Glad goes into Paladin

neon hinge
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Warrior I said

spring heath
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Lol

neon hinge
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๐Ÿ˜‚

spring heath
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Well, Glad is like WoW Warrior

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turns into Paladin

spice thistle
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wait until you get your resource bar

neon hinge
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xDD

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bash stun is op

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as a stun

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since stuns interrupt bosses seems rather strong

spice thistle
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It has dishminising returns

spring heath
neon hinge
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grats lass!

spring heath
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The facet stories are so good

heady solstice
neon hinge
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I get 130% unrested

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So 130% from my lvl35 and 500% from rested? o_O

spring heath
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Noice

neon hinge
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isn't it a lot?

spice thistle
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Give me a

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General screenshot

neon hinge
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dis?

spice thistle
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no no

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like

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a general screenshot of your whole UI

neon hinge
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It's pretty vanilla

spice thistle
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Well

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you don't have road to 70

neon hinge
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Hm?

spice thistle
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The buff for the news

neon hinge
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I guess I'm not noob enough

spring heath
heady solstice
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i fucking hate|| ranjit ||so much

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i have to redo this whole 40 minute duty because of him

timber crag
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anyone that studies law or is a lawyer?

heady solstice
neon hinge
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That's big.

spring heath
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So

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I might possibly tentatively have 'solved' my problem

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potentially

spring heath
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Capping my FPS through the NVIDIA control panel

neon hinge
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Huh.

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Instead of doing it ingame?

spring heath
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Yeah

neon hinge
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That's odd.

spring heath
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Which.. I couldn't find that anyway

neon hinge
spring heath
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BUT so far so good and I also haven't been getting the flickers

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but it's only been a few minutes, so

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too early to bet entirely on the solve

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Ah

neon hinge
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oh

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it's storming ingame

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that's why there're lighthing flashes

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that's nice

spring heath
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I really dig the weather in XIV

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but I also love weather in WoW

neon hinge
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may be nice

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but it's annoying me xd

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and I'm sleepless

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so flashing is not nice right now

spring heath
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Ahhh that's fair

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Ok, it's been an hour on high settings with no crash

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I still need to try WoW, but

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I kinda wanna mark this as a success

spring heath
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heavy sigh

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It errored again

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suppose this is as good a time as any to go to bed

neon hinge
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oh no

hardy forge
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then @spring heath so the problem is still persisting?,you talked about flickers

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it could be related to the issue i had about VFX showing as black squares

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and if theres too many squares(VFX errors) it gives directX crash

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i might have some big brain ideas that could be solutions,hit me up later if it persists

empty swallow
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I Bonte this claim

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How's this chat doing

neon hinge
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Sleepy

empty swallow
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I left you all hanging when I got to the end of 4.0, and as an update I have absolutely done nothing to move on from there, took like 20mins in queue for the trial and just went to bed instead

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Yeah I was woken up early today

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my neighbors thought it's a good idea to get some work done on their house at 9am

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so here I am

neon hinge
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I'm waiting on amazon

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For some foodsies

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I'll sleep later

empty swallow
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ah you're the anti house player

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No leaving house even for food

neon hinge
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That's called Hikikomori

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Anyway, got monk to 35 earlier

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And I started with my gladi

empty swallow
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nice

neon hinge
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He's up to 20 now

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it's fast

empty swallow
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How are you leveling

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sidequests

neon hinge
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Levemates

empty swallow
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ahhh

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There's a buff behind the scenes too when leveling classes below your highest level class

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so they get more xp

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So like my DRG is gonna hit 72 today, and any class I level below 72 has an xp buff

neon hinge
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I get 130% extra exp

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630% or so when rested

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It's a bit busted

empty swallow
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You have the road to 70 or whatever?

neon hinge
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Mak said I don't

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So idk ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

empty swallow
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It's a buff

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you can see it if you have it

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if you don't see it you don't have it

neon hinge
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I only have the buffs I give myself

empty swallow
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That thing gives extra xp till you get to 70 too

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They usually give it on some realms that need players as an incentive

neon hinge
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Laracroft has queues

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20-30 players

empty swallow
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It's funny, people who started around the same time as me on the same realm have the buff but I logged in at the wrong time or something and didn't get it

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Yeah same with Odin

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like 30 player queues consistently

neon hinge
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Anyway I'm with levemates because I don't want to go to limsa or gridania and just steal the quests from the classes that start there lul

empty swallow
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no more uldah sidequests?

neon hinge
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mhm

hardy forge
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levequests are basically repeatable worldquests that give a little xp

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i know i used them too to lvl in the free trial xD

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but generally you use PotD to lvl

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but you need 3 other ppl for that

neon hinge
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levemates are kinda nice on exp actually

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it now started to slow down

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after lvl17 aprox

empty swallow
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you can do potd solo?

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whut

hardy forge
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technically you can do potd solo

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but it's like trying to solo a dungeon yourself,really not recommend-able,especially if you're lvl 1 in PotD

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also i just realized that in E8 raid, "if you dont turn around when ||she changes clothes|| you get stunned"

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damn SE at it again

empty swallow
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ok savage raider

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relax with your naked

molten sequoia
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wowhead

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more like

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wowdead

empty swallow
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it's early dawg

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we're not all aussies

molten sequoia
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7:30pm

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it's prime time for me

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my pc should be ready in the next couple days ๐Ÿ˜Š

hardy forge
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noice

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and yes,the US bois dont come out until like 5pm in the afternoon

empty swallow
hardy forge
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lul

empty swallow
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LOL

hardy forge
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helm looks noice

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is it Estibois armor?

empty swallow
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idk but I think it's shit

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I liked the HW set minus the helm, but this

hardy forge
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i mean,a lot of sets look like shit on lala

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lets be real

lost plinth
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@empty swallow you see now why i forgot entirely lmfao

empty swallow
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I doubt it's looking good on aynthing dafire

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Yes emu GWcorbinTopKek

lost plinth
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plus like no off but on a lala it kinda just looks like

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a regular drg wearing that armor melted in the sun

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not helped by the armor having weird asf colours

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70 sets were hit and miss anyway

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RDM's is fly, brd's is fly, drg's sucked ass, sch's sucked ass, i never liked smn's anyway, i can take war/pld's or leave it i have my glams already

hardy forge
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all of SCHs suck ass because they're 4 different flavors of "university graduate"

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smn are hit and miss,some are kool,some arent

neon hinge
empty swallow
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@hardy forge thank you for repeating the same sentence

hardy forge
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you're welcome ๐Ÿ…ฑ๏ธonte

empty swallow
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that was an hour and a a bit in queue

neon hinge
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dps is fun

empty swallow
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I think it's just the trial is kinda shi

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cause I sat in queeu for like 30 last night

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then slept

neon hinge
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I haven't slept

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TT

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I'm waiting on food

hardy forge
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ouch

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food hasnt come yet?

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but also

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why are eating rightbefore sleep

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do i smell fucked up sleeping schedule

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๐Ÿค”

neon hinge
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no, I bought amazon

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And I'm waiting for it

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Bought 100โ‚ฌ worth of instant noodles

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So I have enough til winter

empty swallow
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Oh so that's what action time manuveur is

neon hinge
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And my sleeping schedule was already fucked lol

lost plinth
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did you mash successfully

neon hinge
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Haven't you realized I always wake up at 4pm cest?

lost plinth
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monte ngl your challenge is live long enough to lb3

hardy forge
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imagine eating only instant noodles for an entire season O.O

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poor pizzaland me cant even fathom that thought

neon hinge
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I mix them with other stuff

hardy forge
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there is too much food to eat just instant noodles

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<-<

molten sequoia
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imagine being dafire

hardy forge
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thanks nook,appreciate it

neon hinge
#

Plus the spicy is good

empty swallow
#

Hmmmm

hardy forge
#

has been a long time since i've seen the ayaya emote

empty swallow
#

Somewhat successful trial

#

0 wipes, but I died once

#

I realized too late that I had to mash, even with my macro which spams left click I was too alte

molten sequoia
#

monte is bad

lost plinth
#

Rip

hardy forge
#

i didnt even know what active time was,but since i've played a lot of other games that presented it that way

empty swallow
#

Still got to lb3 tho and did all the mechancis right

hardy forge
#

when shown a button and a bar

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i knew i had to click

empty swallow
#

I was too busy focusing on ||Shinryu||

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aight sec cutscene

lost plinth
#

Ngl what always kills me on shinryu is the tail has broken only one platform under it

#

But not the other

#

So I tunnel vision and fall through it

#

yo it's everyone's favourite garlean megachad

#

there's many times where i doubt that i'm conventionally funny at all and that was one of them

neon hinge
#

?

lost plinth
#

it's uh, not zenos yae galvus my dudes

hardy forge
#

it took me a moment to get the joke

north verge
neon hinge
#

I still haven't got it

hardy forge
#

i was like "if you wanted to make a rebus,you should have put them all into the same picture" @lost plinth

empty swallow
lost plinth
#

probably accurate

north verge
#

if anyone wants to smile here u go

lost plinth
#

F benos

empty swallow
#

I swear someone posted this already

hardy forge
#

it's been posted at least 4 times

#

by the same person

#

e.e

lost plinth
#

every day

empty swallow
#

I wonder if ||Fordola goes poof||

#

I guess I'll skip the credits and find out GWsetmyxPeepoEvil

neon hinge
#

You guys have to learn to use this Block function

#

is pretty neat

north verge
#

day 657: shake shake, shake shake a shake it

lost plinth
#

i have such a number of clowns here blocked now #retail-wow starts to look hella weird sometimes

north verge
#

line spamming from discord sadkitty

empty swallow
hardy forge
#

i dont even have #retail wow

#

its muted

empty swallow
#

I have everything muted except OT

hardy forge
#

eradicted the problem at the source

#

ez

north verge
#

lol

#

dafire brainhead brainhead1 brainhead2

empty swallow
#

wtfff

#

||What did Elidibus look like that scared the mfin emperor GWseremePeepoThink||

#

I bet it's something to do with shadowbringers

empty swallow
hardy forge
#

indeed

lost plinth
#

so uhhh

hardy forge
#

smn opener is ez

#

you repeat the same action/rotation,3 times,one with ifrit/garuda,then bahamut,then phoenix

lost plinth
#

yeah it's just a uhhh ruin III, assault I (energy drain 3D), assault II (devotion DWT), assault I (enkindle), ruin III (fester 3D), ruin III (deathflare bahamut)

#

easy

#

now let's try it again and try not to fuck it up this time

#

i can do the bahamut rotation

#

oddly

#

you have your bahamut, then you ruin IV akh morn fester ruin IV, ruin III x2 ruin IV akh morn, ruin III ruin IV swiftcast ruin III bahamut fucks off

#

simple right

empty swallow
hardy forge
#

@lost plinth maybe you're being a little too strict with yourself here

neon hinge
#

yeah

#

just do 1234

lost plinth
#

monte, rule 1 of storytelling

neon hinge
#

and repeat

lost plinth
#

nobody dies offscreen

#

ever

hardy forge
#

Except that time

lost plinth
#

aha yeah

hardy forge
#

When ||papalymo|| died

lost plinth
#

the greatest student

north verge
#

dat beard

lost plinth
north verge
#

i like it

empty swallow
#

@lost plinth I'm gonna be honest ||I thought yotsuyu lived, but like we saw gosetsu literally alt+f4 so I"m confused how he lived||

hardy forge
#

@lost plinth
The big things you have to care about,
Is 3:

  1. you ALWAYS get2 bahamut/phoenix laserbeams off
  2. you ALWAYS have egi assault on cooldown
  3. you never reach max stacks of ruin4(and thus cant earn anymore)
#

Anything else is flexible

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Because the rotation vs training dummy isnt the same as a high mobility boss

#

Thats one of the classic blunders

empty swallow
#

woah why the mega jump in ilvl

#

Questing gear is 280 and poetics gear is 390

hardy forge
#

Because poetics gear is "catch up"

#

Its the highest ilvl you could get when it was current i think,aka last raid lvl of gear

empty swallow
#

I don't remember it being that high of a jump from questing to poetics in HW

neon hinge
#

my ilvl is 25

#

๐Ÿ˜„

hardy forge
#

If i remember right poetics from HW are 260

#

@neon hinge you'll get there xD

lost plinth
#

ok tho dafire i gotta say

#

now i practiced my smn

#

i absolutely fucking DUNKED on this balmung smn in grand cosmos jesus christ

#

@hardy forge gotta understand your free weaves too i feel

#

like i'm always hitting ruin III into egi assault

#

bio is free too

#

past that it's just Hat Child: The Clipping Strikes Back

hardy forge
#

I keep my egi assaults and aetherflow things for when i have to move

#

Making sure they're always on cooldown

lost plinth
#

mm see i disagree, i think if you're maximising your gcd usage and weaving time

hardy forge
#

Obviously if we are saying "top dps big D dmg turret better than a BLM"

#

Obviously you're going to do everything instantly

#

But if we're talking actually doing mechanics and NOT losing any damage while moving

#

My strategy works best

#

Unless you like floor pov that is

lost plinth
#

i mean my strategy's indirectly the same

hardy forge
#

You cant press things while you're moving if you already used them all up in the opener

lost plinth
#

if you consider your rule of thumb on paper is hardcast ruin III>egi assault (tri-D fester) hardcast ruin III

#

's not like they've got a very long cooldown

hardy forge
#

Some mechanics have you moving for a lot,so having more than one on hand to use is good,

lost plinth
#

's to the extent i'd much prefer squishing potency into my GCDs and keeping it rolling than saving those tools for movement alone

#

Oh truw

#

that i don't disagree

hardy forge
#

Obviously if boss doesnt have muh movement,you're going to bust it all in the opening

lost plinth
#

but basically for my opener and bahamut I'm stood still for about 3 ruin III casts from pull til bahamut fucks off

#

then you have some whatever filler time

#

then phoenix is obviously free movement in its entirety

hardy forge
#

With my strat,since you're always having them on cooldown(aka always ruin4s ready and at least 1 egi assault ready)

#

You are not wasting any cooldowns

#

Just postponing the dmg like a dot

lost plinth
#

ye

hardy forge
#

But the damage should be the same as the burst

lost plinth
#

i'm a brd my guy dead GCDs are a sin to me

#

ah well, if i can utterly dunk on balmung smns in expert roulette, i'm happy

#

(and also kinda dunk on the tank, half a full enmity bar is scary)

stable rain
#

looks like a lot of FF14 players here - I was thinking of taking a break from WoW and giving it a try, but I was reading that an upcoming patch is going to overhaul the starting experience, which I've heard is one of the worst parts of the game

#

is it worth waiting for and any idea when it will be out?

tough escarp
#

FF14 is a nice side activity for wow players - it's true.

stable rain
#

I'm just tired of everyone in wow being so competitive and obsessed with numbers and crap. FF seems like a more wholesome experience that has a lot more than just raids and stuff (Meaningful profs, housing, etc.)

#

also getting tired of being an altoholic as well and FF14 seems to address that lol

neon hinge
#

I've honestly never have issues over numbers on wow

stable rain
#

I guess my issue is just that Blizz gives so much information about things that players use to make the game less enjoyable. Things like raider.io, meters, simming, etc.

neon hinge
#

Just.. don't use them?

stable rain
#

I don't

#

well I use meters

#

but I'm saying that your experience with the game is largely based around those a

tough escarp
#

yeah - using meters can cause this issue

#

I have never heard anyone complain about doing less damage than another player that didn't use meters

neon hinge
#

idk man unless you're actively doing high end content nobody really cares about your numbers

stable rain
#

are you talking about WoW or FF? Because that is not my experience at all. I've played this game since and vaniilla and you can't escape it imo.

neon hinge
#

WOW

#

I've played for 7 years

tough escarp
#

people just tend to be very competitive it seems
but then they compare themselves to other players they shouldn't compare themselves to

stable rain
#

All I'm saying is I'm looking for an experience where being competitive doesn't filter down to all levels of content

#

I don't mind their being competitiveness and I enjoy it to some degree, but I don't want to have to think about it all the time

#

that's mainly why I'm interested in FF

neon hinge
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

tough escarp
#

like if another player has the best on slot corruptions they expectedly do a lot of extra damage
and when you compare a player with less optimal gear to them they will do bad
but instead of comparing themselves to lesser equipped people
people for some reason explain the game is at fault for them doing low damage and get frustrated

lost plinth
#

@stable rain not so much the starting experience for FF

#

more so the gauntlet of 100 consecutive fetchquests in the post-story of the basegame that don't really matter for story

neon hinge
#

nice

#

I wonder how the F did ARR even manage to revive the game lol

#

if they're still now fixing shit from it

lost plinth
#

because 1.0 was a dire game

neon hinge
#

yeah but 2.0 is like

#

No QoL at all

heady solstice
#

Way better than 1.0

empty swallow
#

Nothing is wrong with ARR

#

@neon hinge I dare you to type that Vanilla had QoL, or TBC

crystal junco
#

ARR HYPERDANSGAMEW

neon hinge
#

Vanilla checked some boxes way better than ARR xD

#

And Vanilla is from 2004

empty swallow
#

๐Ÿ‘‰ ๐Ÿšช

neon hinge
#

ARR is from 2010

#

One would expect a bit of QoL already added

#

Also, we're not on ARR anymore

empty swallow
#

like what

neon hinge
#

We're on ShB

empty swallow
#

and have the WoW expansions improved the early game experience?

#

They only made it faster to get through so nobody sees the glaring problems

neon hinge
#

I mean, wow legion/bfa doesn't have 58-60 grind like vanilla had

#

I was complaining that I found odd that they're still QoLing out some ARR stuff, like a fetch msq that does nothign

empty swallow
#

They're just removing quests that are part of the later cycle which don't really add much, but were patch content

#

you realize the quests are mandatory yes

#

so they're improving them

#

WoW has nothing mandatory really lmfao

#

people are speedleveling with minimal quests

neon hinge
#

Yeah, that's great

empty swallow
#

So you'd rather they remove the need to do content than fix it?

#

Like I'm all for criticisms of games, but to say there's no QoL is pretty weirdchamp

#

Like I seriously dislike some of these dungeons in ff14 compared to WoW because they're all basically done with a pull all the way to boss, nuke trash, nuke boss format

neon hinge
#

I mean, if the quests are mandatory just for the sake of them being mandatory eh

empty swallow
#

they're not

#

They're mandatory because it's a story game

neon hinge
#

You already heard me complaining about having to pause questiong because I need to do a dungeon

empty swallow
#

And that complaint is not the games fault, you had a queue time that was a bit long

neon hinge
#

It's kinda of a pause for a boring dungeon with some nice cinematics

empty swallow
#

It's to introduce players to dungeons

#

ofc it's gonna be a boring easy dungeon

#

xd

#

seriously man

neon hinge
#

They introduce players to every single dungeon of the game?

#

For what?

empty swallow
#

some dungeons have story tied behind them

neon hinge
#

yeah

empty swallow
#

most not some

#

There's tons of optional dungeons at max level

#

50-60-70

neon hinge
#

And those are nice, when it's the story time and not the "okay, let's spend half a minute clearing this pack of mobs so we can continue with this mandatory tutorial"

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

empty swallow
#

So you'd rather skip? go buy one

#

idk

#

The only criticism I have for ARR and the only one I see as valid for a "new" game experience is that it's pretty slow to get through

#

And they're making it faster by removing some of the requirements for some quests and like the needed amounts

#

You don't want QoL, you want to speedrun

neon hinge
#

You don't know what I want lol

#

I never said I was leveling slowly

#

So ๐Ÿคซ

lost plinth
heady solstice
hardy forge
#

@neon hinge you know what the solution for "i was getting invested then they made me wait half an hour for a dungeon" is?

#

play a healer(and to a lesser extent a tank)

#

ez

#

you get invested in the story,they tell you to do a dungeon,you click on the dungeon,

#

instant 0.1second queue timer

#

boom,straight into dungeon without downtime

heady solstice
hardy forge
high otter
#

is the game ever gonna be just a buy without monthly payment?

hardy forge
#

incredibly unlikely,however you can "monthly payment" with the ingame currency

high otter
#

how

hardy forge
#

there is a thing called the wow token

#

you buy the token with ingame gold

high otter
#

how much gold

hardy forge
#

and it pays for 1 month of playtime

high otter
#

for a token

hardy forge
#

it changes with demand

#

let me pull it up

high otter
#

1 wow token/month?

hardy forge
#

ye,1 wow token == 1 month of playtime

high otter
#

wtaf

#

thats such a scam

hardy forge
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

high otter
#

how u supposed to get that?

hardy forge
#

its very cheap actually

#

for modern wow numbers

#

are you playing classic?

high otter
#

nope

hardy forge
#

there is no wow token for classic,only modern wow

high otter
#

i did the new one to lvl 20

hardy forge
#

well,i can tell you that 112k is really kinda cheap for a token

high otter
#

im eu tho

#

225k

hardy forge
#

says 169k to me on the site

#

are you logged in

high otter
#

oh

#

i was looking at the pic

hardy forge
#

i told you the prices get higher with more demand

#

and go down with less demand

#

i remember the prices went up to 500k per token when the current expansion launched like 2 years ago

high otter
#

how long would it take u to get that much gol

hardy forge
#

that is a very little amount of gold

high otter
#

for a lvl 20?

hardy forge
#

for a max level

#

buying the game includes 1 month of play

high otter
#

the standard ยฃ40 one?

hardy forge
#

i dont have the details at hand,

#

however you might want to look into the

#

woweconomy discord

#

for gold-making strategies

high otter
#

what if i dont have enough gold?

#

do i just have to pay?

#

thats shit if i go on holiday or somewhere

hardy forge
#

well you can stockpile gold

high otter
#

wym

hardy forge
#

a lot of people in that discord have millions of gold

high otter
#

can people give u gold?

hardy forge
#

also yes,through trade

#

if you find someone willing,though begging isnt going to get you places

high otter
#

yeah

heady solstice
#

you cant trade gold as a starter account tho

high otter
#

u mean on the free one?

hardy forge
#

ye

heady solstice
#

yes

high otter
#

oh yeah ik

hardy forge
#

the two shibes conversing ๐Ÿค”

heady solstice
high otter
#

from lvl 20 to what level do u think i could get in a month?

heady solstice
#

i mean

#

prob 110 tbh

hardy forge
#

if you put a lot of hours into it

#

maybe 110 in like 4 days

high otter
#

would i have enough gold?

hardy forge
#

easy

heady solstice
#

no

#

youd have like

#

maybe 20k

hardy forge
#

just leveling wont give you enough gold

high otter
#

in a month?

hardy forge
#

thats why i suggest the woweconomy discord

heady solstice
#

at 110 you could maybe try to farm raw gold from dungeons

hardy forge
#

nah bad idea

high otter
#

that sounds boring

hardy forge
#

better try crafting mats

#

the thing is: you wont get your month for free,either you pay in effort by farming gold,or you pay with money

#

its as simple as that

high otter
#

thats shit

heady solstice
#

yeah

high otter
#

no game should have that

#

its a game not a rental movie

heady solstice
#

its a montly sub mmo dawg

#

idk what to tell ya

fresh osprey
#

^

#

wow isnt even the only one

heady solstice
#

almost every mmo has that system

fresh osprey
#

its literally a business model

#

it really sounds like you dont want to play an MMO

hardy forge
#

if you dont like paying every month,play another game

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

fresh osprey
#

theyre literally focused on grinds and doing the same content over and over

high otter
#

its a game tho

hardy forge
#

blizzard is one of the very few mmos that gives you the chance to pay with ingame currency

high otter
#

u buy it u have it

heady solstice
#

yes

fresh osprey
#

no

#

its an online game

#

specifically an MMO

heady solstice
#

they need to pay for servers etc

fresh osprey
#

only singleplayer games are buy and own

heady solstice
#

the sub pays for that

#

( and i guess to an extent buying shit on the store )

high otter
#

every game i have is online and not monthly payed

heady solstice
#

ok

hardy forge
#

thats free to pay

heady solstice
#

but do you have an mmo that isnt pay every month?

hardy forge
#

you play free,and then there is a store attached to it

fresh osprey
#

theyre all filled with microtransactions

hardy forge
#

where you buy boosts

fresh osprey
#

or local multiplayer

heady solstice
#

^

spring heath
#

Think of an MMO more as a gaming service

high otter
#

how is that free to play

#

i payed for them

fresh osprey
#

if they have servers, theyre either filled with microtransactions

#

or they dont actually have servers

heady solstice
#

^

hardy forge
#

any game thats free to play HAS a store

fresh osprey
#

or pay once with servers

hardy forge
#

no one is running a charity here

high otter
#

cheers anyways boys ima head out this shit aint for me

fresh osprey
#

ok

#

bye

hardy forge
#

returning to our normally scheduled program

spring heath
#

You have to pay to play on XBox or PSN servers for most games, which is why there's PS+ and XBox gold or whatever it's called

That's how MMOs are too

heady solstice
#

think of it like this ...
wow is like buying cable tv. you buy the sub to get cable yeah you HAVE it but its not activated until you pay it.

hardy forge
spring heath
#

Lol

heady solstice
#

whose property will he take next

hardy forge
#

the first message was "hippity hoppity on my way to break gaius's property"

heady solstice
#

no one's property will be safe

hardy forge
#

i will eventually have to do a folder of names like wolf

spring heath
#

Lol

hardy forge
heady solstice
#

thats Lord Dabbington the First to you dafire

hardy forge
#

@spring heath hows the problematic laptop doin xd

native burrow
#

@hardy forge i came across a username loli master

#

Once

lost plinth
hardy forge
#

he got isekaid

lost plinth
hardy forge
#

imagine playing on US servers in EU times

spring heath
#

I haven't gotten out of bed yet

native burrow
#

It morning here

#

How yall over there?

lost plinth
spring heath
#

I got a little more than an hour of flawless playing last night before it fatal errored again

native burrow
heady solstice
#

@lost plinth how tf is eulmore emtpy its 4pm

hardy forge
#

hes on eu

native burrow
#

It 11am here

hardy forge
#

marc

#

but his servers

#

are US

native burrow
#

Nice prime time

heady solstice
#

hmmst

#

its 4pm serber time

native burrow
#

This is very questionable on the whole another level

heady solstice
native burrow
#

Lol

#

@heady solstice fun fact: there is actually where you can rent a girlfriend in japan

#

Service

#

It is also mention in pensona 5 game

#

But then again how weird if you order that and it turn out your teacher doing this job part time

main dirge
#

rant like complain about them? LULW

native burrow
#

๐Ÿค”

#

My bad just woke up

#

Mix e and a

main dirge
#

รฆ

hardy forge
native burrow
#

Well i hope your day not fright

#

@hardy forge btw wouldnt it be faster to have a party of blue mage and 5 min speed run vale dungeon?

heady solstice
#

you assume that there is that many blue mages at 80

native burrow
#

Errr i dont think so

#

It sync

hardy forge
#

well you see

#

aurum vale is not good xp

#

and im trying to lvl DRK

#

AND get the event tomestones

#

at the same time

#

big brain

native burrow
#

Ok i see

#

I thought you need to have a quick farm on those item

#

And not worry about leveling up your job

spring heath
#

There are 0 blue mages at 80

hardy forge
#

blus stop at 60

native burrow
#

It suck i can blow myself up by spamming

heady solstice
hardy forge
spring heath
#

lawl

#

I love it

hardy forge
#

instead of ganon dorf,it's ganon Dork,because it's ganon dorf(skintone matches) in a dorky ballerina outfit

#

also fashion leader

dark whale
#

first bad stick of RAM ive seen in 25 years

hardy forge
#

any piece of hardware can be "bad" or "go bad" due to infinite circumstances,the fact you havent seen one in 25 years

#

is testament to the strict quality control

dark whale
#

and ram's lack of moving parts and quite low power consumption

#

tested for 3 days just to prove it was the DIMM

#

was so hoping there was a driver issue to explain the bsods since thats the likely cause but no :(

hardy forge
spring heath
#

Ooooooh

true lodge
#

Helloo

lost plinth
#

sup