no-wow-discussion

[north verge]

yea they always stole my pencils, but i put them in my mouth so they got germs

[meager vale]

like, social anxiety ?

[north verge]

that and selective mutism plus alot of stress

[timber crag]

I'm still friends with several people on the spectrum

[north verge]

new fiddlesticks gif

oh no is it not loading

dang it

[meager vale]

I don’t even know how to loads gifs on discord lol

[north verge]

mines still loading hope it dont break

my pfp i made a gif is of warwick

[lost plinth]

https://youtu.be/Lin_rdw82HE well nobody saw this coming

[north verge]

there it goes

[meager vale]

Oh shoot wth is that

[lost plinth]

what the eldritch horror or the post from wayward

it's funny cause lego mario will haunt your dreams

what's also funny about lego mario is it seems to have a bluetooth button

so uh

mario, play gucci gang

[north verge]

its Fiddlesticks new model

from League of Legends

[lost plinth]

oh league

[north verge]

I dont play it but I absolutely love the characters

[meager vale]

Gucci gang 😳

[north verge]

And designs

[lost plinth]

reminds me of what they did to Faust for the new GG compared to the old one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_KXBchFCC4

in the last two GGs he was just using mild body horror/physics comedy

now he's horrifying

[north verge]

never heard of that

[lost plinth]

oh guilty gear's great

[lost plinth]

not the easiest of FGs

[north verge]

why cant WoW worgen look like warwick

w h y

yes ik those are enginered pumps in him but remove those

thats good worgen model

[lost plinth]

i need to play more guilty gear tbh

i got decent at one character then settled into a 'we take those' attitude

despite the fact I can't input a 623 on a controller OR a keyboard to save my life

there was about only two things I couldn't do, which was 623 input with May's command grab and uhh

any of Ramlethal's combos cause she has too many moves and too many buttons to push

and you wouldn't think it'd be too hard to remember names of moves that a character yells when performing them, but damn it is when there's 16 of them, they're all in Latin, and half have a variant if sweetspotted

only problem with guilty gear is it's the sort of game that tends to wander into 'glorified and rampant anime tiddy' sometimes

[timber crag]

Guilty Gear is a ripoff of Blazblue

[lost plinth]

thing is

i have a sort of cut-off point of 'too anime'

for some reason GG falls the right side of it

blazblue does not

admittedly yes this may sound contradictory considering GG basically has 'breasts and assault rifles - the character'
https://www.fightersgeneration.com/nf7/char/elphelt-guiltygear-xrd-stance.gif

[north verge]

ima steal that

[lost plinth]

i mean

if you want the rest

https://youtu.be/scAw2YxwZEM?t=60

[timber crag]

You havent seen Litchi aka the Boobie Lady?

[north verge]

no

aw shit shes hot...

[timber crag]

Shes so jiggly

[lost plinth]

imean

baiken

exists

[north verge]

i dont know

anime

T - T

[timber crag]

Blazblue is a series of fighting games made by arc system works

[lost plinth]

Oh jeez yeah she is just some odd combo of Bayonetta and Mai

And Guilty Gear is uh... a series of fighting games made by arc system works

[timber crag]

The most recent game is a 4 way crossover with Persona 4 Arena, Under Night Rebirth, and RWBY of all things

Recently added Arcana Heart, Senran Kagura (yes, this game...) and Akatsuki Blitztank (you can play as a giant ass tank)

[lost plinth]

right yeah the only ones I know of that are Persona cause i love persona

and Senran kagura and i wish i didn't

is that an actual franchise

i thought it was just uhm

anime tiddy

[timber crag]

RWBY was to honor Monty Olum (who was a fan of Blazblue)

[lost plinth]

i vaguely know rwby as the one with the protagonist that kinda looks like a more vanilla Ryuko

[timber crag]

Also speaking of Ryuko, Kill la Kill if is a thing...

[lost plinth]

played maybe the beta, can't remember

not the sort of fighter i'm good at

plus heeey sanageyama existed

as did jakuzure

[timber crag]

Too bad it scored lower then Jump Force of all things (seriously, Kill la Kill was an amazing anime)

[lost plinth]

wha

jump force sucked mad ass though

[spring burrow]

it did lol

[deft vapor]

i swear i'm ok, and not hyped for bl3 (on steam)

[spring burrow]

Oh right the game was epic games exclusive

[neon hinge]

yeah turns out having money is good for devs X)

[fresh osprey]

b/c clearly epic is evil

/s

[spice thistle]

I mean

you have to be blind to trust in epic

[neon hinge]

What

[spice thistle]

Rite peebs?

[fresh osprey]

(is clearly a joke)

XD

[spice thistle]

You know what isnt?

Not knowing what to buy rn

I want to buy a ps but we are so close to Sony directs

[fresh osprey]

AC:NH and Doom Eternal

[neon hinge]

I might get eternal

Liked the first one even the negative review it got from me

Too many crashes are just too many

[north verge]

https://im.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-1-70b2267205d1.gif

[fresh osprey]

crashes?

[north verge]

i ruined warwick

hate me plz

[fresh osprey]

it never crashed for me

[north verge]

UwU

[neon hinge]

yeah

[fresh osprey]

were you running it on a computer that couldnt run it?

also when did you last try?

maybe its better now?

its a really good game

about 13 hours

[neon hinge]

60fps all ultra like usual

[fresh osprey]

last played?

[neon hinge]

yeah

[fresh osprey]

yeah, try again

maybe try high vs ultra?

[neon hinge]

Wut, the game had been out for 3 years back then

[fresh osprey]

could be a bug with your specific combo setup

like your PC and the game settings

every PC is different

its worth playing through all the way

its great

[neon hinge]

I finished it lol

[fresh osprey]

OH

ok

[neon hinge]

I said I liked it e.e

[fresh osprey]

well Eternal is in a different engine

so hopefully no crashes

[neon hinge]

Tho the music was better when repleaced with anime music

🚪

[fresh osprey]

idtech 7 vs idtech 6

[neon hinge]

Hope so

I have a better computer now as well

Not that the previous one was bad

But 🤷‍♂️

[hardy forge]

i realized only a week ago that my main pc still has a CPU from 2012

thats why my laptop was smoother xD

[lost plinth]

decided to buy myself a spare 3ds to hack for birthday

bought a 32gb SD card along with it which is a fun upgrade from a 2gb one it comes with

[hardy forge]

but Y

[lost plinth]

felt like it

./shrug

[maiden jackal]

how do people draw swords every day ._.

[neon hinge]

decided to buy myself a spare 3ds to hack for birthday
yay

n2dsxl are good ones

[north verge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/645738078920507395/688392501518008392/fiddlestixEdit.mp4

@meager vale this is you

[meager vale]

@north verge lol I was asking what that was yesterday! that looks awesome

[north verge]

ah i must of missed u asking

its League of Legends, and the character is remodeled Fiddlesticks

[hardy forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328992407645454337/688462619924758546/WhatsApp_Image_2020-03-14_at_18.25.04.jpeg

[lost plinth]

i've had neither of those

i have plenty of TP and uni hasn't cancelled

[spring burrow]

TP is gone everywhere here

Thank god we had extra to begin with

[fresh osprey]

Well the crazy people will keep it and the resellers are gonna look stupid, because amazon isn’t letting them list it

So it’ll be back on shelves in a week, maybe 2

[lost plinth]

i'm expecting the usual run on petrol and stuff next

honestly

[timber crag]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/fhb5e4/coronavirus_specific_gpu_projects_are_now/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[spring burrow]

🤔

I ain’t clicking that

[timber crag]

Its for folding

Hello, I am a newbie to wow and I really want to learn about it, but I don't know if it's worth it, like are servers still full of people and are they still playing normally or just sitting afk in some kind of inn. And how much would it take to learn most of the things in wow and get to level 60?

[spring burrow]

#retail-wow is better for this question

Wait you said 60 are you wanting classic or battle for azeroth wow

[spice thistle]

Fucking

[timber crag]

Where should I start?

[spice thistle]

México canceled classes from March 20 to Apr20 on all levels

[lost plinth]

right so

[spring burrow]

Dang

[lost plinth]

if you're playing CLASSIC

60 is cap

if you're playing current

it's double that

[spice thistle]

That ruins my plans to get the virus and spread it to my bois

[lost plinth]

and yes, the game is still very much played

@timber crag

[spice thistle]

snaps fingers

[spring burrow]

Mak wtf

[spice thistle]

What?

Don't tell me you won't do that to the bois if you had a flu

[lost plinth]

i mean

no i wouldn't

[spring burrow]

Not really

[spice thistle]

Boo

[timber crag]

So should I start classic or current wow?

as a newbie

[lost plinth]

literally up to you

[spring burrow]

Well thats a whole other question

[lost plinth]

classic is WoW as it was in 2006

[spring burrow]

They’re two separate games

[lost plinth]

if you want a somewhat more technical but vastly less polished game

go classic

if you want more content and more thought out design, but somewhat less complexity

retail

classic wow was the sort of game where some classes were just unplayably bad

and the content was frankly a LOT easier

[timber crag]

and how much time approximately takes to learn most of the things in wow? For example I learned about League Of Legends every champion and basic lore in like a year or less

[lost plinth]

erm

i'd say definitely less than a year

[spring burrow]

Uhhh

[lost plinth]

a lot of things don't really matter

[spring burrow]

Lore is kinda fucked in wow at the moment

[lost plinth]

short answer would be uh, https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nobbel87

[timber crag]

I know that WOW is way bigger and diff game than LOL, but I just gave like an example

[lost plinth]

if you watch basically everything Nobbel has made

then congratulations you know all the lore

[timber crag]

+1300 vids ._.

[spring burrow]

I mean, they’re both old games that have some retconned lore but its still in game cause logic

[lost plinth]

the ingame providing of lore is a bit fucked due to a few chronology errors because of new content overlapping older content

and the fact a lot of formative lore is in the old Warcraft RPGs

since World of Warcraft is far from the first installation in the franchise

[timber crag]

I kinda want to start from the beginning of WOW and I guess I would need to go with classic, but as someone mentioned earlier, current wow is less complicated

[spring burrow]

Well

Yes and no

Classic is “hard”

Cause its old and jank

[timber crag]

But isn't it where everybody started playing it?

[lost plinth]

well

no

[spring burrow]

No

[lost plinth]

in the current version of wow you start from level 1

current wow is just a couple of decades newer in terms of content and development

chronologically, you do not need to start with classic

[timber crag]

Quick question and I know that I can look up it in google, but one of my friends had WOW 3 when it got released and I don't know what they meant by that, because one thing that came into my mind is Warcraft 3

[lost plinth]

besides the zones that got updated, current wow has the content that classic did

Yeah Warcraft 3

There were a few strategy RPGs of the Warcraft series

in the like, early 200s

*2000s

[timber crag]

Yeah, but he said wow 3

[lost plinth]

then he's a prat

[timber crag]

Did he meant like an expansion or smth

[spring burrow]

World of Warcraft is the sequel to Warcraft 1-3

[lost plinth]

nobody calls expansions wow 3

he'll have meant warcraft 3 and accidentally abbreviated 'warcraft' to 'wow'

[timber crag]

oh okay

[lost plinth]

i'm 100% sure on this cause THAT's an easy mistake to make, but nobody calls expansions wow 2-7

but yeah Nobbel is a great channel that I'd honestly recommend referring to when you want to know about 'a certain thing'

[timber crag]

I wish that I would have known about wow when it was released, instead playing LOL

[lost plinth]

and really you don't need to know about optimal playstyle techs for your class before max level

[timber crag]

Like I dont even know if it's possible to learn everything or at least more than 65% of the game for a newbie

in this time

also is it worth to play Warcraft 3 before wow?

[lost plinth]

it's absolutely possible

and uhm

if you want to, but honestly the lore points are available in video form

there's no pressing need to actually PLAY it

[timber crag]

and what happend to Warcraft 1 and 2? Or it doesn't matter because you can learn everything about it in warcraft 3?

[lost plinth]

no, 1 and 2 are just further back in lore than 3

it's chronological, Warcraft 1, warcraft 2, warcraft 3, wow

[timber crag]

Okay, I will start in currrent wow (not classic) and might look a bit into warcraft 3

[lost plinth]

that is probably the soundest option

have a link https://discord.gg/GQthmx

[timber crag]

Is there any tips for character creation and servers?

[lost plinth]

ahm

creation = literally do what you like

servers = literally do what you like but I'd probably recommend a medium to high population one

not deserted, but not full

you may also want to do some googling to check the faction balance on the server

[neon hinge]

actually

I disagree

[timber crag]

what about their types? pvp, pve and there was one more i think

[lost plinth]

although tha'ts not too much of a thing anymore

[neon hinge]

Servers do have recommendations

[lost plinth]

it's PvE and RP now

[neon hinge]

RP servers are good if not the best for learning

[lost plinth]

pvp servers = dead concept

tbh it's equally as chill to learn on pve servers

if you're not actually out to RP there's negligible difference

[neon hinge]

Uhm

Might had been my experience then

[timber crag]

I have a couple servers in mind, but Idk if they are still good, Turalyon and Argent Dawn

[lost plinth]

potentially

ahm

you EU based?

or US

[neon hinge]

that sounds EU

[lost plinth]

yeah

[timber crag]

I am eu, but I don't really care which region I will play

[lost plinth]

well you should cause uh

you can't change

[neon hinge]

Cause that^

[lost plinth]

and expect atrocious ping if playing US

[neon hinge]

I've been playing 7 years on us

ping is not a problem

[lost plinth]

so uh, going on as 'being EU'

[neon hinge]

problem is raiding from 5 to 8 am

[timber crag]

I have played other games on US and the ping was actually not bad

[lost plinth]

turalyon is - ouch inter - is literally a realm where new players are directed atm

[neon hinge]

yeah and wow has a good anti lag system

[lost plinth]

and argent dawn is a major RP server

[neon hinge]

EU then

[lost plinth]

so turalyon would be a sound pick

(if it doesn't recommend you go there anyway)

[timber crag]

what is a role play server? like what do people do there? as pvp I suppose that there people go pvp mostly, for pve people go for raids/dungeons mostly

but what about RP?

[lost plinth]

hm

RP servers are as much pve as basic pve servers are

with the addition of RP communities

so it's basically a PvE server with RP tagged on

not compulsory and you can ignore it, but be expected to deal with it if you're not inclined

[lime crystal]

They also don't shard in with other servers so basically, you get the same people all the time around you.

[lost plinth]

yes, also that

[neon hinge]

Oh?

that's neat

[lost plinth]

a lot of the time realms are smashed together so zones are populated

but RP realms will never go outside RP realms

[timber crag]

I might to to turalyon, but I might go to other servers if there is a recommendation

[lost plinth]

in absence of any better ideas, turalyon is a pretty good one

[timber crag]

I dont need to be in turalyon or argent dawn, but these servers were where my friend used to play

that is all I know, and I don't know about other servers

[lost plinth]

well honestly game would likely recommend turalyon now

let me check if it still does

[neon hinge]

having friends ingame is cool

[lost plinth]

yep still does

[timber crag]

over 20 chars, jesus

dont tell me that all of them are maxed

[neon hinge]

are new players servers good tho? 🤔

[lost plinth]

oh uhm lol the 16 on my home server are

[neon hinge]

I kinda like mid/high pop

[lost plinth]

the other lot are just for farming purposes cause the realms were quiet when i made them

wait uh

scratch that

[rotund shard]

No, new player servers are shit lmao

[lost plinth]

14 are

[neon hinge]

yeah that's what I thought

[timber crag]

I mean most of the games newbie servers are boring af when you are experienced player, but idk about wow

[lost plinth]

the other 2 are just for dumb names friends asked me to reserve

[rotund shard]

Same applies

[neon hinge]

Is just that they're not populated

You don't need to go to a server with queues

But a mid high might be better

[rotund shard]

New player realms are flagged as that just to try to get more people playing on them

[lost plinth]

yeah azjol-nerub/quelthalas is mid-high

is why i'm there

[rotund shard]

You absolutely don’t want a new player realm, cause they’re usually lower than Low pop.

[neon hinge]

I used to play on quel'thalas 👀

[lost plinth]

(guess why the population figure is obscured by 'New Players)

[neon hinge]

US-LATM

[rotund shard]

Also the economy on NP realms is awful, as is the amount of endgame.

[lost plinth]

QT is apparently an abysmal server for US or so i've heard

[timber crag]

Turalyon seems to have higher horde population, also what is the diff between horde and alliance, I know that they are two diff sides, horde is bad guys and alliance is good guys, but does it matter at the end game?

[lost plinth]

uhm

[rotund shard]

People hit max, wonder why they can’t find a good raiding guild, then transfer off cause they realised lol

[lost plinth]

horde players would like to know your location

[rotund shard]

There are no good or bad guys @timber crag

[lost plinth]

Horde aren't bad guys, except to the alliance

they're outcasts

[rotund shard]

It’s all a kinda muddy grey area

Both factions do bad things

[lost plinth]

*just blizzard's writing is a little bit shit and tends to MAKE them bad guys

[neon hinge]

HORDE IS GOOD GUYS

[rotund shard]

Both factions do good things

[lost plinth]

but regarding endgame

[timber crag]

I have only watched wow movie and it seemed that horde were bad guys, and I dont know a lot about sylvanas, but she seems to be a total bi*ch

[lost plinth]

they're both the same, unless you're the absolute bleeding edge world-first-aiming gang

in which case horde racial abilities are a bit better

The Warcraft movie is uhm

[neon hinge]

the wow movie didn't really have the horde

[lost plinth]

Warcraft 1/2 time

yeah

it's WELL before the horde

well

the horde as is now

the warcraft movie was more about the 'marauding bloodcrazed orcs me smash' phase

to put it very lightly, they kinda got out the marauding bloodcrazed phase like a bad hangover and started attempting to exist peacefully

[timber crag]

I dont know how long all of you have been playing wow, but when a newbie finish maxing his first character, in what real they usually are? (I dont know if alliance and horde are called realms)

[lost plinth]

however it is quite hard to exist peacefully when you've razed half the human population

[neon hinge]

they both share continents

however it is quite hard to exist peacefully when you've razed half the human population
oi

[lost plinth]

amiwrong

[neon hinge]

IDK are you??

[lost plinth]

no

[neon hinge]

FROG YUOU

[lost plinth]

bite me

[neon hinge]

Let's talk vanilla a bit Billi

Continent East Contenent West

[lost plinth]

cough explain vanilla

[neon hinge]

East has trhe capital of the horde, West has th capital of the blue humans

[lost plinth]

...blue humans

[neon hinge]

But both have other cities, from the other faction

[lost plinth]

gtfo

[timber crag]

It might be personal question @lost plinth but how long have you been playing wow, and have you been playing any other games as long as wow? For example I have spent thousands and thousands of hours into League Of Legends and Team fortress 2

[neon hinge]

But in reallity ingame you generally just co-exist on the high level zones

[lost plinth]

erm

[neon hinge]

I played wow for 7 years

[lost plinth]

i've been playing wow on and off for about 10 years

[neon hinge]

give or take 2500 hours

[lost plinth]

hm

Destiny 1 came close

warframe comes close

sims

but does sims count

[neon hinge]

WOW>Overwatch for me

in hour count

[timber crag]

I mean I have played lol since it got released, but when I started NOLIFIN'G it comes after around 2-3 years after their release

[lost plinth]

haven't played overwatch in years lmfao

[neon hinge]

I used to play league in 2010 or 2011

[timber crag]

Overwatch was my first game that I played on battle.net, I had pre-ordered it and it was fun, but over years it started to get shit and I often would do big breaks from it because it would be unfunny to play

mostly because of the community and how often you would play the same map

[lost plinth]

largely same

me and friends hit mid to high masters reliably and it stopped being fun

haven't played about since they added Moira i think it was

[timber crag]

does wow had similar experience? Like it was good, but then it got fucked by with classes balancing and community or smth like that

[lost plinth]

nah

people who stan classic might have you believe it, but in a balanced view the game has improved in quality over time

[neon hinge]

masters whew

[timber crag]

I am kind a waiting for OW 2, but I will guarantee that I wont spend same amount of time like I spend in ow (1)

[neon hinge]

I'm dia on support

Plus all the hours untracked from arcade because indie company

[timber crag]

So back to wow, I am going to start in turalyon (atm) and what most common starter classes/races are? Btw is it worth to join a guild for a newbie?

[neon hinge]

any class any race

[timber crag]

Inter how long have you been playing ow?

[lost plinth]

the most pick-up-play classes are meant to be hunter warrior paladin but really just anything works if you can learn it

[timber crag]

I have been playing it since beta, but still havent reached over 200lvl, because it would get boring so quick lul

[neon hinge]

Since beta yeah

[lost plinth]

and races is literally pick what you want

[neon hinge]

I didn't rank in S1 and S19 only

cuz s1 was too new and S19 burnout

[lost plinth]

and guild finder is a thing that exists

y'all on season 19?

it has been a while...

[neon hinge]

We're on 21

xD

[timber crag]

In wow community I mostly see hordes and blood evles and sometimes night evles, what's up with that race?

[lost plinth]

jesus fuck

Well uhm the thing is

people like elves

there's really not much more to it

[neon hinge]

THEY'RE HOTTER

[timber crag]

I tough they had some kind of interesting lore or smth

[neon hinge]

Horde are ugly unless you're into them lul

[lost plinth]

and blood elves are the most conventionally attractive horde race yeah

[neon hinge]

nah

they're just hot

[lost plinth]

the lore is interesting but

yeah

[timber crag]

as a newbie I havent seen much of the classes or races, but default and naked human race woman is kinda hot

[lost plinth]

i mean basic rule of fantasy is if you give people elves people will lewd the elves

[neon hinge]

Do you want to play with lore from before or play and learn the lore whilst playing?

[lost plinth]

most people i know's attitude towards humans in wow is 'why would you do this when you could be x'

[timber crag]

Even tough I see a lot elves in community hub, but in youtube I see a lot and I mean A LOT dwarves

is it the same reason that people just like them or they have something special?

[lost plinth]

funny cause humans are the youngest race in warcraft lore by a good couple of millenia

uhm

dwarves racial IS good but

really race picks are largely preference-based now

since the racial abilities don't change a lot

like for context, the racial abilities generally have a passive and a usable ability

[timber crag]

I have played a lot of guild wars 2 and there are asura races that are dwarves basically, but they have a very good thing that they can be so small and it's easier to parkour in game

[neon hinge]

Tauren tank is best

+1 stamina

totally op

[lost plinth]

like, night elves get 1% bonus crit chance in the day and 1% bonus haste (cast speed) at night

[neon hinge]

that's stupid lol

[lost plinth]

and an on-use ability that stealths you so long as you're stood still

[neon hinge]

Game barely has stuff that matters on the time slot

[lost plinth]

dwarves on-use ability removes all bleeds, poisons, and magic I think

and their passive is so unmemorable i can't remember it

i mean that's just base races, lightforged draenei gets an orbital cannon and if that isn't 'unlockable race' in a nutshell idk what is

[neon hinge]

oh right that exists now

[timber crag]

I know that raids are kinda most popular thing in wow (I may be wrong), but when I will be good enough in game I want to be useful for guild and do raids. So what do you think about resto/ele shaman (race still unknown, probably dwarf or human)?

[lost plinth]

no human shaman

so drop that

[timber crag]

why is that?

[lost plinth]

the benefit with current wow over classic

is everything is viable

[neon hinge]

Honestly? If you want to be useful you'll end up like the not emu

[timber crag]

another thing that I know is that humans are main race for pvp

[lost plinth]

Some races can't be some classes

[neon hinge]

With 10000 characters

[lost plinth]

that ain't true inter lol

Humans are decent for pvp cause THEIR on-use racial breaks stun effects

[neon hinge]

okay not 10000

but 10 mayhaps

[lost plinth]

i mean every class gets an ability to break stun effects in pvp

[neon hinge]

I didn't because I'm the best player on US

[lost plinth]

and I think humans' is on the same cooldown AS that for balance

[neon hinge]

But there's that

(I play druid so I could be anything)

[lost plinth]

plus humans' passive ability is 10% bonus reputation gains which kinda pays for itself

[neon hinge]

that's nice^

[lost plinth]

i do wish i had that sometimes

but like I do like having an orbital cannon so

we take those

[neon hinge]

xDD

[lost plinth]

i wonder if

[light's judgement]

[thin basalt]

Light's Judgment

Live 8.3.0

[lost plinth]

Ooh that still works

that'd have been useful to remember a while ago

[Every man for himself]

[thin basalt]

Every Man for Himself

Live 8.3.0

[neon hinge]

That'd be the definition of Orbital Cannon quite yeah

[Insane in the membrane]

[timber crag]

I have played a lot of ow/hearthstone and approximately 50hours of diablo 3, one thing that is common in these things and I dont know if it would help somehow in wow is that, in ow competitive I like to be a support, in hearthstone mostly or even only I play mage and in diablo 3 I have played mage and archer. So is there any connectivity to wow?

[thin basalt]

Insane in the Membrane

Live 8.3.0

[neon hinge]

Das meeeee

Nah

I mean, it depends

[lost plinth]

archer is hunter and we ain't support

[neon hinge]

WOW has casters (eugh) and instant spells (yasss)

[lost plinth]

mage is... mage and they ain't support

[timber crag]

I like to be useful so I mostly go support, but I don't really enjoy it, I as well like to be able to stand and fight alone if needed so I often go mages in rpg games.

[neon hinge]

they ay dps

[lost plinth]

mage and hunter are literally pure-DPS clases

[neon hinge]

I hate healing in wow, I main Ana in overwatch

I loved tanking in wow, I mained DH in Diablo 3

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hollow flower]

Real deal

[neon hinge]

Ain't clickin that

[timber crag]

Most youtubers seem to be playing priest dwarves, are they common or just another player preference?

[lost plinth]

oh and if you expect WoW demon hunters to be the same as Diablo demon hunters, good luck

[neon hinge]

WOW doesn't really get a lot of translation from other games, because of its gameplay

[lost plinth]

Hm, dwarf priests USED to be very very good but this is classic

now they're just another race-class combo

like all the others

because ooooof

...does this work for classic

[Fear ward]

c'mon bot try hard

[neon hinge]

xDDD

[lost plinth]

it's given up

w/e

[timber crag]

so it race and class doesn't matter, but I must not go human ele/resto shaman

gotcha

[lost plinth]

Human shaman literally does not exist

[neon hinge]

Some races just don't have classes

yeah

[timber crag]

oh

I forgot about that

lol

[lost plinth]

Not every race can be every class

[timber crag]

Yeah, I remember that now

[lost plinth]

For alliance shamans you have draenei, dwarves and pandaren

[neon hinge]

In case of doubt, tauren can be shaman 👀

[timber crag]

Is shaman dwarf a thing?

[lost plinth]

yes

[neon hinge]

yeah

Their totems are as big as them

kinda fun to watch when you're PWNING THEM

[lost plinth]

humans can be everything except shaman, druid, demon hunter

[timber crag]

wtf is pwning?

[lost plinth]

dwarves everything except druid and demon hunter

uhhhh l33t gamer speak from the fuckin' 2010s

[timber crag]

and what is up with death knights? I dont know much about them but they seem super cool

[neon hinge]

😂

[lost plinth]

riiiight death knights are more related to the Lich King expansion

[neon hinge]

yeah but don't worry about them, they're levelwalled

[lost plinth]

there's also lich king stuff in warcraft 3

[neon hinge]

They're melee

[lost plinth]

basic plot setup, undead supersoldiers

[neon hinge]

With uh, disseases and buffs and stuff

IDK how they work anymore

[timber crag]

I have played a lot of hearthstone and know some of the characters from wow, but not many

[neon hinge]

But I started on wow with them

[lost plinth]

that were evil til they kinda went 'yo wtf'

[neon hinge]

Well, no

It's more complicated than that Emu xD

[lost plinth]

it really isnt

when you get down to it

[neon hinge]

They kinda were controlled

[lost plinth]

yeahhhhh

[timber crag]

I know how lich king looks and that he is an a-hole for trying to gain control over heroes

[lost plinth]

there's videos on it

lot more to it than that

but like

yeah

[timber crag]

If I will get very hooked up with wow, I might be spending 5 hours a day and mostly everyday, but I could say at least 5 days a week, how long it would take me to lvl up to 60?

[lost plinth]

hm

[neon hinge]

a day or two?

[lost plinth]

to 60 yeah

[timber crag]

nani

[lost plinth]

but like

in current wow

that's halfway

[neon hinge]

If you now what you're doing yeah

[timber crag]

I know it's not the highest lvl in current wow

[neon hinge]

They have redced the exp requirements

cuz leveling sucks

[lost plinth]

i'd say a day or two is aspirational

certainly a week

[neon hinge]

As new player?

[timber crag]

but I know some people who said that they were spending A LOT of days just to get from lvl 59 to lvl 60 and they were farming ogres in some kind of blackrock mountain that I dont know anything about it

[neon hinge]

I'd even say 2 weeks ngl

[lost plinth]

without heirlooms

[neon hinge]

cuz you read the stuff

[lost plinth]

you're heavily confusing classic with current

[neon hinge]

that's vanilla

[timber crag]

who tf is heirlooms?

[lost plinth]

doesn't matter

[neon hinge]

stuff you buy with thousands of gold that unlock % exp boost after you unlock them

[lost plinth]

but yeah in current wow 59-60 is just another level

[timber crag]

so these players who spent days and days to get from 59 to 60 are wow classic players?

[lost plinth]

there's no getup like that now

yes

[neon hinge]

yep

[timber crag]

and what about wow classic and current map difference? Is blackrock mountain classic thing or?

[lost plinth]

nope

it's still there

[neon hinge]

well

[lost plinth]

well

hm

[neon hinge]

There has been the cataclysm

But overall is the same

[lost plinth]

yeahhh the 4th expansion

revamped all the vanilla game zones

[neon hinge]

"all"

[lost plinth]

updated the stories, the textures

well

most

[neon hinge]

Well, that maybe yes

But ACTUAL changes was...

[timber crag]

Is there any recommendation to buy smth in wow as a new player? Because currently I will be playing without expansion and memberships

[lost plinth]

just buying subscription gets you everything but the current expansion

[neon hinge]

Barrens, thousand needles, bottom left of west continent

[lost plinth]

so that's content from 1-110

[neon hinge]

Those were the biggest changes

iirc

[timber crag]

I might want to get membership because of the shop and other cool stuff, but I don't know if player (community) market/store is a good thing to buy things from

[lost plinth]

erm

there's no community store for like, actual £

[timber crag]

No, I mean with in game gold

[lost plinth]

oh

well

if you're only on starter edition you can only go to level 20

[timber crag]

Trade market or whatever it's called

[neon hinge]

gold

[timber crag]

yuck I forgot that

[neon hinge]

you can ignore it

[lost plinth]

just the subscription means you get all the expansion content except the current

[neon hinge]

yeah

and you get a month with buying the game

[timber crag]

but it might be a cool chance for me to try all classes or races to lvl 20 and then decide which one to max out

[lost plinth]

yep

that's the idea

[neon hinge]

That yes

[timber crag]

I dont know if you know guild wars 2/trove/tera and I might be missing other rpgs that I payed, but these three are the most time I spent playing

are there any common things between these three and wow?

[lost plinth]

[neon hinge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lost plinth]

many folks come from guild wars

take that as you will

[timber crag]

I havent played gw, only gw2

[neon hinge]

Same thing

[lost plinth]

plus the most obvious difference with classic and current is the graphics

[neon hinge]

vanilla orgrimmar was baaaad

xD

[timber crag]

again, I dont know if any of you have played LOL, but you both have played OW, I could imagine the community if LOL or OW would have some kind of rpg open world game

[neon hinge]

I always got lost there

[timber crag]

like holy f, how toxic they would be

wow community is so chill

and helpful

[lost plinth]

damn son classic wow dwarf on the right is goin through a lot rn

ps1 hagrid energy

[neon hinge]

haha

Everytime this dude tells me wow looks ugly I make a weird face

Cuz it might look a lot of things

but not ugly, not anymore

[timber crag]

I mean classic and current wow graphics are not so diff, it feels like watching 144p and 240p

[neon hinge]

What

[lost plinth]

people say wow is ugly?

huh

[neon hinge]

yeah man

[neon hinge]

Current wow xD

Even cata zones are amazing now

[timber crag]

what is this city? I might bee guessing that there is where tyrande is living or smth

[neon hinge]

From Legion

[lost plinth]

Uhh

Shockingly correct

[neon hinge]

I forgot the name

xD

[fresh osprey]

suramar

[neon hinge]

That

[lost plinth]

where tyrande lived ORIGINALLY

[fresh osprey]

close to correct

[lost plinth]

but like

before elven society split

[fresh osprey]

its sorta like a high elf city but like, split off for 10k years

[lost plinth]

yeah

[neon hinge]

Suramar in english, southofsea in Spanish

[fresh osprey]

and based around night

[timber crag]

what is suramar

[lost plinth]

that ^

[neon hinge]

the city

[lost plinth]

this's the actual night elf city

[neon hinge]

A bit dry

Might catch fire

but yeah

[lost plinth]

stop

[timber crag]

I have seen night elf and blood elf city where the new players spawn

they both look boring

[neon hinge]

Hey I'm just observing, the earth looks dry

[lost plinth]

not too far off

[timber crag]

but blood elf city is way better looking than night elf

[lost plinth]

they're both relatively quite old now

[spring heath]

It's objective

[neon hinge]

yeah

blood elf is from the first expansion

[spring heath]

Darnassus was fantastic

[lost plinth]

Silvermoon only looks that good because it's one of the two zones left that never got the revamp that allowed flying

it's much easier to look good when you never have to be seen from above

[timber crag]

In hearthstone I really liked c'thun and mevih/khadgar, I guess medivh/khadgar lives in storm_something city

[neon hinge]

That's actually true Emu

[lost plinth]

Uhm I'll find dalaran

[timber crag]

can anyone explain a bit about them?

[lost plinth]

gimme a sec

[timber crag]

c'thun/medivh/khadgar

[neon hinge]

Spoilers or spoiless?

[lost plinth]

there it be

well that's khadgar at any rate

[neon hinge]

dadghar!

[lost plinth]

Medivh lived at Kharazhan

[timber crag]

hold up

[lost plinth]

well khadgar doesn't really LIVE anywhere he just kinda exists mostly

he probably does live somewhere

but

[timber crag]

dalaran looks almost exactly the same as dalaran in hearthstone

lul

[lost plinth]

he's there

Yeah probably

Kharazhan in WoW is mostly a dilapidated wreck

[timber crag]

ignore that text

[neon hinge]

yeah that's dalalag

[lost plinth]

and uhm this's where c'thun be

[neon hinge]

c'thun is the eyes dude?

[lost plinth]

look at those quivering bug pincers

[neon hinge]

I'm forgetting my story omg..

[lost plinth]

jesus christ inter

[timber crag]

I have seen and played like an hour or two with blood elf/night elf/worgen and I know a little bit about their starting city, but not much

[lost plinth]

c'thun is the uh

beeeeg eye dude

[timber crag]

c'thun is an eye

[neon hinge]

yeah

[timber crag]

with more eyes

[neon hinge]

the eyes dude

[timber crag]

tentacle

the source of the hentai

[lost plinth]

imean

[timber crag]

and is he a dude tough?

[lost plinth]

well insofar as it can be

yes

[timber crag]

and yes dude is gender neutral

[neon hinge]

it's something

[timber crag]

word

[neon hinge]

xD

I say dude because I'm half memeing

[lost plinth]

and tbh n'zoth had the eyeballs thing down pretty good

[timber crag]

I forgot the name of the pic below

[lost plinth]

this was literally the setting for a raid

[timber crag]

but I hate that guy in hearthstone

[lost plinth]

what, n'zoth

[timber crag]

he is way too powerful in hearthstone at least

[lost plinth]

ooh

yeah

[timber crag]

but can be easily countered with stuff like silence

dunno if it's revelant to wow

[lost plinth]

n'zoth doesn't have too much to ACTUALLY do with resurrection

same as yogg didn't have anything to do with instantly random-drawing spells to neck himself with

and c'thun was just one of those vaguely uncreative vanilla wow fights

[timber crag]

I guess since you guys have been playing a lot of wow, what classes does guild always need for raids, like they have a lot of dps but they lack tanks or smth

[lost plinth]

tanks and healers are probably obviously the more in demand but

like

[timber crag]

because I know that tanks have very big impact to raids and if they die, rogues come next to tank

[lost plinth]

um

no

rogue tanks = also wholly a classic thing

[timber crag]

by "rogues to tank" i mean, they can evade for what, 5s?

[lost plinth]

now if the tanks die you just kinda die

yeah but they can't get aggro though

so pointless

[neon hinge]

yeah

[timber crag]

I know it's up to me and I will still try all races because I dont have full wow yet, but in my mind I have these options/combos for classes/races. Ele/res dwarf or night elf, druid night/blood elf, priest dwarf, human mage

[lost plinth]

no night elf shamans

no blood elf druids

but besides that

[timber crag]

and if I recall correctly know only one thing that dwarves are good with mages because of their mana something?

[lost plinth]

erm

...sec

[timber crag]

or their crits

I dont know but they have something that goes well with mages

[lost plinth]

yeah they get 2% bonus crit damage but like

honestly debate the value of 2% over something else you might actually want to play

[might of the mountain]

[timber crag]

is it fun to play as priest in wow? because at least in hearthstone for me, priest is the most boring class

[thin basalt]

Might of the Mountain

Live 8.3.0

[lost plinth]

i personally find priest pretty boring but

i guess some people play it

[spring burrow]

I would not compare classes to their hearthstone counterparts

[lost plinth]

yeah

[neon hinge]

racials only matter if minmaxing for mythic

[lost plinth]

^^ that also

[spring burrow]

^

[neon hinge]

^

That's how true is it!

😂

[spring burrow]

Lol

[fresh osprey]

HS is pretty dissimilar to wow

[timber crag]

minmaxing for mythic...?

what does it mean

[spring burrow]

Yes

[lost plinth]

yeah as i said earlier, unless you're bleeding-edge top %s of players

[fresh osprey]

really only the characters are shared

[lost plinth]

race doesn't matter

[spring burrow]

The highest of endgame

[neon hinge]

dificulty of raids/dungeons

minmaxing is going for the best of the best combonations

Mythic is the highest difficulty

[lost plinth]

did you just say combonations

[neon hinge]

LFR/Dungeon Queue, Normal, Hero, Mythic

Apparently I did Emu

xD

[meager vale]

lol

[lost plinth]

worth noting mythic dungeons aren't really on par with mythic raids in terms of raw difficulty

[timber crag]

What I really hope to achieve currently is get hooked up with wow and get at least lvl 60 and I want to see blackrock mountain, but I dont know much about it, I know that there are a lot of ogres and dragons

[lost plinth]

mythic raids is the sort of sponsored-top 1% of players

erm

[spring burrow]

Uhhh

[lost plinth]

not so much ogres any more

there are dragons

[spring burrow]

Youre not gonna see much tbh

[timber crag]

I tough that blackrock mountain were the most common spot for solo xp farming

[lost plinth]

nope

confusing with classic again

[timber crag]

at least that was what I heard

[spring burrow]

Bruh what

[lost plinth]

it's just another zone on current wow

[meager vale]

Is sylvana killable in game

[lost plinth]

no

[spring burrow]

No

[neon hinge]

No

[meager vale]

No

[neon hinge]

And forget anything about black rock mountain xD

[timber crag]

why tho?

[lost plinth]

on classic, you'd be hitting 60 and then working to start raiding @ molten core

[timber crag]

isn't it special anymore

[neon hinge]

Because game is different

[spring burrow]

Cause its not relevant anymore

[lost plinth]

which WOULD require activity around blackrock mountain

however now

it's just a place

[neon hinge]

Activity?

That's a fucking cemetery lol

[meager vale]

cemetery lol

[lost plinth]

since 60 is not level cap

it's just a place to pass through

[timber crag]

aw, I really wanted to see it and I hoped that blackrock had some kind of special armor sets or something that I could keep until end game

[lost plinth]

when 60 WAS level cap

[spring burrow]

No

[lost plinth]

nop

[timber crag]

blackrock is kind a important to me because of my friend

[lost plinth]

i mean

[timber crag]

but I dont know anything about it

[lost plinth]

the place is there

[spring burrow]

You got fed some very bad info my guy

[meager vale]

advice for xD farm for lvl 70?

Xp*

[neon hinge]

just follow the quests

[lost plinth]

erm

just do quests yeah

[neon hinge]

I never did anything but quests

[meager vale]

I forget what the brackets are for pvp

[spring burrow]

Dungeons arent worth really

[neon hinge]

well, dungeons were worth because a combo

[meager vale]

I believe it would be 70-79

[lost plinth]

dungeon queue around that level bracket is abysmal

[neon hinge]

It wasn't just dungeon, it was always dungeon with a couple quests inside

[timber crag]

even tough I have played wow for couple of hours I already know that their quest system is yucky, basically

[spring burrow]

Play the game

[neon hinge]

Nah, it's quite fair compared to others

[lost plinth]

erm

[spring burrow]

Don’t assume

[neon hinge]

FFXIV had a whole lot more of walking

[lost plinth]

yeah that one don't make much sense chief

[meager vale]

sorry chief

[neon hinge]

Also, you want to be on several quests XD

cuz they usually go to the same places

And that's

Free real state exp

[lost plinth]

multitasking

[neon hinge]

Get 5 of this and kill 10 of this

Surprisingly, they're usually the same quest

cuz you need to kill this to get this

[timber crag]

I forgot about sub classes or whatever it's called, for example I played night elf mage a little bit and I used to go arcane mage, even tough everyone recommended fire mage.

[spring burrow]

Specs

[neon hinge]

Eh, play whatever you prefer lol

[meager vale]

I was night elf hunter

[spring burrow]

Or Specialization

[timber crag]

Is there any recommendations for priest/shaman/mage? like specs

[spring burrow]

Any of them

[neon hinge]

priest is heals so idk

But shaman any

[lost plinth]

really any

[neon hinge]

And mage any

I liked frost but I was trying to learn pyromage mid Legion

But I went back to my chicken cow

[lost plinth]

arcane is fairly powerful on leveling for reasons i wouldn't bother getting into but it does end up being a bit of a one-button wonder at endgame

as said before, the benefit of current wow is everything is viable

if you are good

you will see success

and there aren't many specs that will hard-carry you

insert demon hunter joke here

[neon hinge]

If you're not bad you'll succeed

Game isn't hard

[timber crag]

Alrighty, Imma go with turalyon server, ele/resto shaman (race still dont know) and will try to see if I will like him, then I will try priest

[lost plinth]

fair

[timber crag]

also what lvl recommendation is for blackrock?

[lost plinth]

if you wanna add me i think my b.net info's in my discord profile somewhere

[neon hinge]

I only really played 2 classes in 7 years even tho I tried all of them

[timber crag]

and how far is it from the starting cities?

[neon hinge]

blackrock... it's a raid zone so 59

[lost plinth]

uhm

[neon hinge]

From you as alliance? not that far

[lost plinth]

it's not really a raid zone

they're 40-60 for quests

[neon hinge]

am I confusing mountains?

[lost plinth]

idk what you're confuding

[timber crag]

what tf am I looking at emu

[spring burrow]

The map

[neon hinge]

don't show them that map omg guys

wait

[timber crag]

are you showing blackrock on the map, because I cant see shit xd

[lost plinth]

ignore pet level

[spring burrow]

Burning Steppes has Blackrock Mountain in it

[timber crag]

just curious what pet level is

oh okay

[spring burrow]

A whole other part of the game that’s optional

Basically pokemon

[lost plinth]

there's a system of 'battle pets' in wow which is literally scuffed pokemon and there is no other way of desctibing it

[timber crag]

oh I know that a little bit

[lost plinth]

wholly optional

[timber crag]

pvp but with pets

[lost plinth]

it's a collection-based thing

mostly pve but yeah i guess

[timber crag]

Idk why would they bother putting that in game

[lost plinth]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

it's a collectionist thing

why they add 500+ mounts in the game? see above

[timber crag]

last time that I have played wow was when some kind of circus thing was on

[lost plinth]

darkmoon faire. yep.

[timber crag]

there was a portal to it in human region

[lost plinth]

yep

[timber crag]

I spent some hours in that faire

[lost plinth]

first Sunday of every month for a week

[timber crag]

oh

well I was in it like 4-6 months ago

[lost plinth]

it's decent for leveling professions i guess, and it's decent for picking up a temporary XP buff

there's a few other rewards from there

[timber crag]

Is c'thun a raid boss?

[spring burrow]

An old one but yes

[timber crag]

Okay, thank you everybody for all the help and info

last unecessary question tough, what is the most ugliest and useless combination of class/race/subclass

[spring burrow]

Why?

[lost plinth]

erm

[timber crag]

just in case that I wont make that character

[lost plinth]

well

[timber crag]

because I might be trying a lot of random combinations and spec

[spring burrow]

Uhh

[lost plinth]

ha ha funny answer would be gnomes cause fuck gnomes but eh

really there isn't one?

cause then nobody'd play it?

[spring burrow]

Its a matter of preference

[timber crag]

gnomes? you mean dwarves?

[spring burrow]

No

[timber crag]

oh

[spring burrow]

Gnomes are a race

[timber crag]

I remember now

yeah

green shitbags

[spring burrow]

No

Those are goblins

[timber crag]

;-;

oh gnomes are the ones with techno stuff

[spring burrow]

Yes

[timber crag]

I have heard something that they irradiated their city and people to fight the invaders or some shit

that's it

[lost plinth]

not far off

[spring burrow]

Kinda yeah

[neon hinge]

Goblin are ugly

and dogs are just...

pets

[timber crag]

Goblin women have not bad boobs tho

[spring burrow]

Yikes