Thumbs are fatty and not long
#no-wow-discussion
versed pebble
well, I think we can all agree that the Duke was just way too damn big right?
spice thistle
Jaguar
And not the worst controller
The worst might probably be
Cdi controllers
versed pebble
spice thistle
Inhad the bad luck of playing Zelda on the CDi
versed pebble
yeah, like Nintendo and SEGA, the console had variations for each territory
versed pebble
you so young...
spice thistle
Doesnt mean I didnt play the games before them :p
versed pebble
I do kinda miss the megadrive years
spice thistle
You mean
versed pebble
life was simpler, but I was more bored
spice thistle
The Genesis does what Nintendont?
versed pebble
hah yeah
spice thistle
And then got bodied when the Snes came
versed pebble
nah man, it was awesome, Virtua Fighter and Sonic CD
versed pebble
spice thistle
You had the greatest songs
Which one of them became my favorite
We had the shitty sonic boom song
versed pebble
love that Micheal Jackson did teh Sonic 3 & Knuckles soundtrack
spice thistle
And you had the greatest you can do anything
versed pebble
oh and the 32x had the first pc quality version of DOOM aswell
spice thistle
Ehh
versed pebble
my mum's face when I started playing that 😄
versed pebble
oh god, I forgot they made a karaoke unit for it too 😄
spice thistle
Can you imagine doom without music
versed pebble
`The 32X version of Doom was published by Sega and released on November 21, 1994. The game features 17 maps from the first two episodes but none from the third episode and hence lacks the BFG9000, although it is documented in the manual and a cheat code can give the weapon to the player. Unlike most console ports of Doom, there are no console-exclusive maps. This version also has no multiplayer mode.
Due to poor use of the YM2612 FM synthesis chip in the Sega Genesis, this version's soundtrack is noticeably inferior to that of other versions. Many sound effects are also missing. As with the Jaguar version, the levels have been edited and the game does not feature the Cyberdemon, Spiderdemon or the Spectre (however, unlike the BFG9000, they are not mentioned in the manual). There is also no way to save games, although there is a level select option that allows the player to start on any of the first fifteen levels.
If the player cheats while playing or uses the level select option, they will not see the real ending to the game and instead be presented with a DOS prompt (C:>) after completing level 15. The game manual incorrectly states that the game will then warp the player back to level 1 to try again without cheats, which doesn't happen.
Like in the SNES and Jaguar ports, circlestrafing is not possible in this version due to the use of a "strafe on" key rather than separate left and right strafe keys. `
but it was still awesome
spice thistle
Ye
versed pebble
wow, it looked massively inferior too 😄
fun to think, two years later we were playing Quake
spice thistle
Mhm
versed pebble
memories huh...
obtuse gust
buoyant cloud
Guys how do I make details reset after every pull
versed pebble
trading for what?
timber crag
Trading in general i dont have the time to Farm right now so im bound to crafting
Alchemy/blacksmithing/enchantment and inscription are my main professions
versed pebble
solemn trail
Made map of Northern Kalimdor :D
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/9g60ez/ive_been_making_ek_zones_so_now_its_time_to_give/
ruby minnow
You sir are very talented. I love it.
wind jewel
versed pebble
Do You Want To Know More?
spice goblet
....yes
glad reef
versed pebble
dayum
spice thistle
snek sheeding?
versed pebble
yeah, thats so satisfying to watch
spice goblet
spice goblet
Nice
merry plover
bronze seal
spice thistle
I like the sound of those clips
neon hinge
@bronze seal mute giveaway, mark as read, unmute, mark as read, close Discord
Try that
Is usually what works for me
lost plinth
I like how most fancomics online have just made Isabelle and Cloud best friends in Smash since they're next to each other in the art
lost plinth
/shrug if the Internet find something that can be vaguely cute/lewd/made to be so/all of the above, that's all it takes
but seriously what is this game where Isabelle can fight Snake and Ridley
ruby minnow
what is this game that Kirby can devour Ridley
ruby minnow
floofy dog ears and a lot of weird fetish stuff
if the internet is anything to judge
lost plinth
Isabelle's stand out move atm for me seems to be the outrageous grab
I'm not too sure whether the stop sign is a taunt that was scripted with sonic or an actual move
I like how she has her different seasonal costumes too
fallen nexus
lost plinth
Tbh I'm probably gonna charge my 3ds and play animal Crossing again
it's been too long
fallen nexus
I bet you won’t do it.
lost plinth
is this reverse psychology kinda shit to make me play animal crossing
my village was the absolute shit
ruby minnow
I still need to hunt down a very angry and murderous pickle and rip out its kidney stone so I can make a better version of my axe that sometimes transforms into a sword to catch fire and explode.
ruby minnow
yea the Deviljho gems just aren't dropping
lost plinth
Didn't really play since they added it
I expected it to look more threatening than it did
lost plinth
Like, Nergigante. Evil looking boi. Odogaron, evil looking boi. Deviljho? Just a real aggressive pickle
ruby minnow
You should see the earlier versions of Murder pickle then
cuz this is his most "angry"
lost plinth
Kulu, a boi that is more threatening than it has a right to be
lost plinth
kulu was the rock chicken wasn't it
ruby minnow
yes
lost plinth
I get confused with the triple-hyphenated ones
ruby minnow
Tzizi?
versed pebble
never could get into Animal Crossing, wife tried too and couldn't
lost plinth
tzizi, electric blue boi and rock chicken
ruby minnow
nah he just takes a picture of you
and then eats you cuz that flash is amazingly bright
ruby minnow
Tobi
fallen nexus
lost plinth
ah yeah, not a triple hyphenated one
ruby minnow
Also Nergigante is the bane of my existence.
It's hell to fight him with a greatsword.
lost plinth
It took me a long time to figure out tzizi flash is a frontal cone
I thought it was a facing thing
ruby minnow
Although I will say this
Pickle's Turf War with beasts like Odogaron is just perfect
He slams into it, bites around it's torso and just carries it around like a weapon
and then tosses it at you if you run away
fallen nexus
More Rainbow Six Siege talk is needed.
lost plinth
Turf wars that my active target loses were my favourite thing
ruby minnow
Pickle and Bageljuice's turf war is also great.
ruby minnow
It's like a b-52.
lost plinth
Oh that thing
ruby minnow
he drops down little scales that can explode. So when he's in his turf war with Pickle, he's just dropping them all over the place so there's explosions everywhere and pickle always wins but his head takes like 50% of it's break limit
he also dive bombs you like any true asshole invader monster
lost plinth
Sigh I just remember a gif of someone annihilating a kulu's head with a hammer
and it was so satisfying to watch
ruby minnow
Tzizi's is more satisfying
if you break their head twice, their little flash
doesn't work
but they still do the animation
lost plinth
Yeah that kinda made me sad
Then it decided to break combat and leave locale when I was maybe 2 shots from killing it and that made me mad
ruby minnow
HA
that's why I dont hunt outside of missions/investigations.
unless it's like a tempered monster that pops up
spice thistle
I wonder who else Nintendo is going to kill
ruby minnow
whatcha mean
spice thistle
Dont you know their bloodthirst?
They have killed Mario and megaman in the Ridley trailer
ruby minnow
It's smash
spice thistle
Then they killed fucking luigi
ruby minnow
they come back
lost plinth
Isabelle killed Tom Nook's hopes and dreams
Stupidest thing I've seen all week was a sort of fanmade Geno trailer
Where they sort of slowly unpixelate his old model
and then it turns out to be sans in a Geno costume
lost plinth
I like the idea of very-nearly echo fighters
spice thistle
Imagine
lost plinth
Like Ness and Lucas and Villager and Isabelle
lost plinth
I do remember someone doing an 'aaactually' saying Lucas never knew PK Starstorm for his final smash
lost plinth
I don't know anything about Earthbound so I can't comment
ruby minnow
I dont know much about the new smash since the only one I played was Brawl on the Wii.
spice thistle
Lucas knew a pk attack in steroids
But not starstorm
That was the girl that shows up in his new final smash
lost plinth
Paula
spice thistle
Ye
lost plinth
So I guess the change to his final smash sort of explains it
spice thistle
Watch a new character being from diablo
lost plinth
inb4 Tracer
spice thistle
Inb4 tracer as overwatch for switch teaser
lost plinth
The Isabelle reveal in turn with AC Switch was well done
Even though if you wanted AC it was 'Yayyyy fuck it's smash. wait yayyyyyy'
versed pebble
umm... what?
primal acorn
?
teal cargo
spice thistle
Oh gods no
neon hinge
Eurobeat 👌
teal cargo
lost plinth
pancake can you cease the heresy
neon hinge
I'm not sure if that art is 100% SFW
neon hinge
Don't please 🤣
I won't delete the pic since I think is not nsfw but it's really borderline 🤣 don't cross it 🤣
versed pebble
my artist did this one a few months back, I have a print of this :D
ruby minnow
what the fuck is wrong with you all
dark torrent
That Shrek/Malfurion shipping is something I cannot ever unsee
spice thistle
All ogre now
ruby minnow
Monster hunter
spring burrow
I say breath of the wild
Unless you want multiplayer stuff then splatoon 2
Octo Expansion is highly recommended to get with it
ruby minnow
Monster Hunter World is on Switch
spring burrow
Generations Ultimate is
World isn’t cause they were making the game before the switch was even announced
versed pebble
fresh osprey
its requires way more power than the switch can put out
but the next mobile MH will probably be on switch
hopefully as some kind of mix between world and gen ultimate
because world is great, but lacks monster variety
neon hinge
Nintendo can talk anything they want about them being different, but having to miss great titles or having to play them on streaming just because the hardware is subpar...
fresh osprey
and ultimate controls are just very clunky compared to world - not to mention the lack of UI stuff
i mean, yeah hardware is inferior
neon hinge
I'd like them to make their consoles a bit more powerful
fresh osprey
but it allows for mobile play
fresh osprey
i wouldnt trade being able to take my switch with me for more power
neon hinge
I would, since I already have a 3ds and I honestly barely play outside
neon hinge
sure
fresh osprey
nintendo doesnt need to make a graphically powerful box
two other companies already control that market
neon hinge
It wouldn't hurt them tho..
fresh osprey
its a bad commercial strategy to try and compete with microsoft and sony
it would hurt them
neon hinge
Not to compete
fresh osprey
there is less space
neon hinge
But to make them a bit more powerful
It was rumoured time ago that the dock would have like a second cpu or something like that
fresh osprey
more power without being unique would mean being mediocre
neon hinge
I wish that went true
fresh osprey
and putting a cpu in the dock, would mean undocked games would run like shit
neon hinge
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Not like you can play Re7 everywhere
You need an internet connection
A stable one
fresh osprey
i have a PC for that
fresh osprey
also, stuff like rainway and such
being able to stream your gameplay from a powerful device to a mobile one
but like
if you want a powerful gaming device, you have to give up mobility
neon hinge
That's why I said on the dock ^^"
fresh osprey
nintendo decided to go for as strong as possible while filling in an empty market
the home console market is already extremely comptetitive
powering the dock up would make the switch a home console
neon hinge
Either way, we can agree they fucked up in the game cards, right?
fresh osprey
nah
neon hinge
How no?
fresh osprey
you can make bigger cards
versed pebble
I'm all for always on internet connection games if they have fun co-op, otherwise wtf...?
neon hinge
Game manufacturers afaik are having some issues with the gamecards because they're limited in GB
fresh osprey
they have a bigger cart, it costs slightly more
devs dont want to make less money
the bigger cart costs more because of the cost of the components
thats not nintendo's fault
its a result of general demand for storage components
as time goes on, the bigger carts will become cheaper
its not a perfect solution, but what other choice was there?
neon hinge
I think I've to remind ya that Nintendo official MicroSD cards are twice as expensive
fresh osprey
yeah, thats official branding for any stuff
neon hinge
Compared to good microSD cards like Samsung's EVO and SanDisk's Ultra
fresh osprey
just buy a regular card
i have a samsung microsd in my switch for extra storage
they arent charging devs a certain price for SD cards
theyre charging consumers, yeah
but if i buy an official xbox sd card or whatever, its also going to be overpriced
name branding is a rip off for tech stuff
fresh osprey
thats not what im saying
fresh osprey
im saying the cost for consumer vs cost for dev are totally different
neon hinge
I know what you're saying
fresh osprey
the 'official sd cards' for switch that are sold to consumers have a massive markup
the ones devs use are not set by nintendo
unless nintendo is physically publishing for you
neon hinge
Show source or else I'll disagree
fresh osprey
you are saying hundreds of devs send their games to nintendo to have them made in their factories
fresh osprey
and that they pay nintendo to do that
neon hinge
I'm saying they pay a fee to use the gamecard
fresh osprey
then what are you saying?
neon hinge
That Nintendo provides
fresh osprey
no, they pay a fee to have games on the switch
thats the whole switch tax thing
all consoles do that
its just that nintendo's tax is larger
fresh osprey
and that, in addition to having to use microsds, which are more expensive, compared to disks
fresh osprey
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-03-10-why-nintendo-switch-games-are-ending-up-more-expensive
its literally more expensive because sd cards are more expensive than disks
so they opt for the smallest card size in order to keep their profit margins similar to disk-based systems
fresh osprey
in what way?
if you mean a game thats been out on another system for longer and is cheaper, duh
neon hinge
I mean old nintendo games too
fresh osprey
like ports?
yeah, they are charging full price because for 90% of people, those are new games
they can get the money
neon hinge
¯_(ツ)_/¯
fresh osprey
so they charge for it
fresh osprey
thats capitalism
neon hinge
So yeah, not buying from them
I've been disagreing with N's pricing policy for a long time
spice thistle
Nintendo gave up power for utility for a long time since the gamecube failed
"Failed" in terms of sales, but that small cube was really powerful
fresh osprey
the carts literally arent their pricing policy
neon hinge
What do you mean with that?
If you mean the gamecard topic from before is not the same for me
spice thistle
I'm replying what you were arguing about console power
Like way back
Nintendo gave up trying to being a console with a lot of graphical power
They instead, try to revolution the genre of video games with every console, motion controllers of the Wii, which was dragged to the Wii u with more utilities with the dual screens, 3d gameplay with the 3ds and now hybrid console with the switch
And moving into the cart thing, most of the games that are AAA are really small compared to third parties
And if storage is a problem
Split the game
Like they did with doom
They put the single player mode in the Cart, with Multiplayer being a side download of the Eshop
primal fulcrum
Hello
night lark
random mantle
for Zandalar you can name Voldun as Conan Exiles
junior sparrow
What would Zuldazar and Nazmir be?
lost plinth
so... I got this doorstop for my room, it's shaped like a sheep. just fluffy, full of beans, looks like a sheep.
And whenever I want to close my door, I just kinda kick it out of the way
I've had it for like 8 months
And just now I've been hit with the thought that it did nothing to deserve this, why am I such a horrible person
I feel really guilty for kicking the sheep and I don't know why
ruby minnow
I mean.
gaunt notch
i want one
spice goblet
how did drorith become staff
ruby minnow
All things considered, I do hope he does a good job here.
ruby minnow
I do have my doubts. All things considered of our history.
spice goblet
same
spice thistle
Har
neon hinge
¯_(ツ)_/¯
versed pebble
gotta love that green eyed monster to someone that got a job huh
good luck Drorith
spice thistle
One of the members became really popular due how he auto memed himself, and pointing out some bad stuff happening sometimes, always replying "Be thankful I dont have mod" or when things were really shitpost, he always said "Ban" and somehow the poster got banned, that until the owner gave him mod, needless to say, the group became a good place with him as the most active mod
I wish many locks to dro
(hopefully he gunna ban those certain individuals that just take this place to whine and treat others like shit when called out)
ruby minnow
and hopefully he does better than his last mod job
spice thistle
Oof
I would be afraid if Des was mod
Tho, since I have been here, I have been getting a charm for the people of the spoiler channel
Minus Ryz
ruby minnow
I don't abuse power tho
versed pebble
I'd leave Makore
onyx wren
Sup
Finally home
Was gonna make some food but someone stole most of our food
Yet none of our valuables...just the food
spice thistle
I was being sarcasm
I dont know a lot of things about des enough to judge him
Heck, months ago I thought des was a girl
ruby minnow
I still could be.
versed pebble
you mean G.I.R.L.'s?
Guy In Real Life?
neon hinge
haha
spice thistle
Lel
Its going to be like mu friend
"You thought I was a girl? I can be with some drinks and fake hair"
But ye, to judge someone based on an internet interaction is blind
ruby minnow
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Me and Peach go head to head often
but hey we still play Mon Hun together and have fun
onyx wren
I judge my brother based on internet interaction 👌
neon hinge
deft vapor
spice thistle
Is it wabbit season?
spice goblet
yes
but also
apparently it's wabbit killer season, except, the killer is the wabbit
deft vapor
the moment when you spend 3-4 hours watching a stream when you should be sleeping due to already messy sleep schedule..
neon hinge
I should be sleeping
I'm watching Marble Olympics.
I.. Like it
Commentary dude has great voice
And he's good at it
spice goblet
is his voice like bob ross?
spice thistle
Mi pc shut down while I was playing doom at max
versed pebble
we just finished watching Hell in the Cell, now watching Mick Foley's look back at his career
spice thistle
I Havent seen wwe since 2012)
versed pebble
my otehr half is a huge fan, I'm old school
versed pebble
😄
versed pebble
Well damn, this is blowing Xeon out of the water and straight into the orbit of Jupiter
https://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/122222-amd-7nm-64c128t-epyc-benchmark-leaks/
versed pebble
?
spice thistle
Did you have laserdisks back in your day?
versed pebble
I remember them, yeah 😛
my dad loved new tech like that, I guess thats where I getmy early adopter bug from...
but yeah, he had a lazerdisc player, damn that thing was huge
oh how things change...
versed pebble
hmm...
https://www.pcgamer.com/amazons-mmo-new-world-shows-off-its-diverse-locations-in-new-screenshots/
this could either be quite interesting, or incredibly boring
neon hinge
It looks so....... generic
versed pebble
yeah, lets hope theres more to it
it does look gorgeous though
Haunted 17th Century setting sounds interesting, but yeah, it could be super boring
versed pebble
right, see yuou guys next week, unless I'm bored at the hotel
timber crag
ruby minnow
Oh hey sokka's voice actor is in the new netflix show
random mantle
gaunt notch
free, what happens to all the products you cook
spice thistle
DO THE MARIO
fresh osprey
FYI dragon prince on Netflix is so good
ruby minnow
Im watching it now
fresh osprey
It has writing where if you are an adult, it is still very enjoyable
fresh osprey
It is unfortunately pretty short
ruby minnow
I giggle at that
fresh osprey
I imagine it’s so short because it takes time to animate and they don’t know if it will succeed
But I think it’s doing well, so hopefully season 2 isn’t too far away
ruby minnow
this show really is great.
quasi zodiac
I just finished what's up with some friends yesterday and it's pretty alright.
quasi zodiac
Hmmm 
fresh osprey
Actually, Scottish elves are the 2nd or 3rd most common type of elves
Only beaten by LOTR wood elves, and fantasy high elves with those snooty accents
Wild elves with Scottish accents are pretty common because it’s essentially a fantasy interpretation of the Scots
I like her though. Great accent
It’s not too thick, so she is still fully understandable, but it’s thick enough where you can enjoy it
She is definitely my favorite character
quasi zodiac
Amaya takes the cake for me
random mantle
It gets sold @gaunt notch
gaunt notch
oh good. i was hoping it wasn't thrown out or anything
random mantle
Only when it's not good
spice goblet
Aren't they all refreshed daily?
random mantle
not at schools
in a bakery yea
stuff usually lasts for a few days
things with fruit get a touch up with new fruit on it
whip cream stuff get redone aswell
spice goblet
o ok
spice thistle
Error 37
spice goblet
Error 404: Point Not Found
onyx wren
Error 808: Error 404 Not Found
gaunt notch
oh thankyou for reminding me i need to sort out why my netflix isn't working 
ruby minnow
zucc is such an amazing man
obtuse gust
versed pebble
well you say that Mak...
https://kotaku.com/the-nintendo-switchs-online-service-has-some-weird-deta-1829117459
this hotel is SUPER boring
neon hinge
TL;DR not all games allow cloudsave and you have to check in every fortnight to keep playing NES games
I can't really read it right now
But that's what I did read last days about it
spice thistle
Weird details?
The only thing I don't need from it are cloud data
And no Intervention
you are wrong there
The NES games that come with Switch Online can be played offline for up to seven days.
neon hinge
I said fortnight :/
versed pebble
I think the main issue is it's trying to be XBL or PS+ without the matching ability
spice thistle
I don't see how it is trying to be XBL or PS+
spice thistle
"give"
spice thistle
You can't play the games of the XBL gold without a sub
And in either case, most of the games XBL gold give are meh
versed pebble
i dunno, been some blinders on both XBL and PS+
spice thistle
Nintendo never announced that they would give away games of the switch either
versed pebble
but they're a bonus for subbing, the sub is for server usage, just like an MMO
spice thistle
To think that they would do that is to be really off from the head
I don't see the issue
Not expensive either
It's just an online service
versed pebble
spice thistle
One year of the NSO is cheaper than a WoW month tbh
fresh osprey
They’re still charging for mediocre cloud saves, and an online service that is literally p2p
spice goblet
Error 605: Cloud save not found
fresh osprey
Like - cloud saves don’t work in the games where you spent so much time and want cloud saves.
spice goblet
Ayy
fresh osprey
No splatoon 2 or Pokémon
Their excuse being cheating - even though cheating in splatoon is already a problem
It’s essentially an excuse to not have their largest games have saves in the cloud
It’s bullshit
They are charging $20 for a service with a bunch of exceptions and no actual servers - they are literally charging for letting your switch connect to a different one
Ps+ and XBL both are supporting actual servers
spice thistle
Both of those started like the Switch did tho
versed pebble
with cloud save syncing
neon hinge
PS3 started free, with optional PS+ for extra games or idk
I guess it had autoupdates too?
versed pebble
no, but it's 2018, if Nintendo are offering a 2004 equivalent service, thats still a bit shit
neon hinge
Nintendo has been failing at online services since the term "online" became a thing :/
spice thistle
Even if their servers didn't have any lag when the PS3 And X360 had?
versed pebble
they hate online full stop
spice thistle
Eh, not really, after all they were one of the first doing online stuff with the first consoles
For all we know the nes virtual console can expand into snes-64 and probably gamecube
But apparently cloud save was that important for everyone
Or the fact that you could use gold nintendo coins to get the online service
versed pebble
can we all agree this is definitely one of Arnies best films?
spice thistle
Mhm
fresh osprey
Nintendo isn’t using any servers tho
Like - literally none
It’s all P2P
it’s why splatoon will never be an esport
spice thistle
And is that bad?
fresh osprey
It’s why almost all smash tournaments are local
Yes P2P sucks. If you are far from the people you are playing with, it leads to desyncs and rubberbanding
In games like Mario kart, smash and splatoon, where split seconds matter, P2P is unacceptable
spice thistle
Have you played MK8 Online?
spice thistle
I don't have any issue with the online, and even in worldwide
fresh osprey
It depends on where the other players in your thing are
If they have a fast connection to you - no problem
If they don’t, you or they could be fucked
And again
Charging for P2P which literally requires nothing on Nintendo’s end is bullshit
They are charging something for nothing
spice thistle
Yes but the time to whine was before, peach
fresh osprey
Now is the time to fight with your wallet
fresh osprey
Don’t buy the service and their online games will fail
If the amount of people in splatoon drops by huge amounts, it will kill the game
fresh osprey
I know it isn’t expensive
fresh osprey
But I’m not paying a single cent for bullshit practices
spice thistle
You do you mate
fresh osprey
Right now it’s 20, next time it will be 40
spice thistle
You will be the one not playing stuff
fresh osprey
I don’t play many online games
spice thistle
And honestly
fresh osprey
Main interest for me is cloud saves
spice thistle
It's ridiculous is how people whine for a service of a company that is new to this
fresh osprey
I would be willing to pay for that if they weren’t also trying to blackmail me for P2P gameplay
spice thistle
And don't say it isn't
fresh osprey
Majors
Makore
A huge company isn’t going in blind
They’re just run by idiots
There’s two other services out there doing what they want to do
fresh osprey
But instead Nintendo is trying to reinvent the wheel
spice thistle
And worse
fresh osprey
Again
spice thistle
XBL used to fall in their begginings
fresh osprey
They started as shit ten years ago
neon hinge
MakoreToday at 2:37 AM
It's ridiculous is how people whine for a service of a company that is new to this
It's 2018
They're a billion-dollar company
fresh osprey
Nintendo can look at failure of other companies
neon hinge
They're late at this [Mario] party
fresh osprey
That’s like saying it’s ok for a modern mmo to not have quest markers
Because they’re new
spice goblet
"Of a company that is new to this"
Uh, what
neon hinge
And they're not new
fresh osprey
Even though it became standard 10 years ago
neon hinge
Wii had online
fresh osprey
^
Wii had some actual servers
They are being cheap lazy motherfckers
They are blackmailing for P2P
And they are blocking their largest games from cloud saves to essentially not need to spend any money
They are charging $20 for what costs them maybe $2
Maybe
And again, the nes games are mediocre, and they won’t even say what the ‘special deals’ are - and the service is about to launch
It’s bullshit
neon hinge
Is not really about how much they price it tbh
fresh osprey
Defending it is wrong
neon hinge
Is more why they price for that
fresh osprey
Even if it was $5
The principle of blocking P2P online behind a paywall is garbage
And cloud saves should work on everything or nothing
spice thistle
And what if they add it later on?
fresh osprey
Their nonsense about cheating is just that
They had an entire fucking year
They delayed a ducking yer
Year
They delayed a year - if it was going to be added, they would’ve done it
They chose to exclude these games to save money for something that already costs them near nothing
spice thistle
Because dedicated servers are free
neon hinge
P2P is
fresh osprey
THERE ARE NO DEDICATED SERVERS
P2P is not a server
It’s a console connecting to another console
And both are acting as the console and the server
There is literally no cost
They are charging for literally a permission file
It’s fucking blackmail
Pay us or we lock you out of online
There is no defense for that
versed pebble
and c'mon, needing to use your mobile phone for the voice chat? in 2018...?
spice thistle
They might have their own reasons?
fresh osprey
Are you really trying to defend the voice chat app?
versed pebble
c'mon Mak, you know I respect you, but c'mon
spice thistle
I haven't used it tbh
fresh osprey
Fortnite has built in voice chat, which means the switch can support it - the issue is it requires dedicated servers
neon hinge
Makore
spice thistle
But I say that they might have their own reasons
fresh osprey
Nintendo doesn’t want that
fresh osprey
They don’t want to spend money
That’s their reason
They want $20 from you for fuck all
spice thistle
Yes, and it's bothersome to hear other people when you are in a 40v40
In the end you still use Discord so
fresh osprey
By putting it on your phone, they are pushing the server cost to your cellular data
Discord wants access to the switch
Nintendo won’t let them
neon hinge
mrpeach774Today at 2:47 AM
By putting it on your phone, they are pushing the server cost to your cellular data
I mean
spice thistle
But they are forgetting the Switch isn't a multi-process thing
fresh osprey
It’s literally them trying to make as much money by doing nothing
neon hinge
if you're playing online
You're either on wifi or ethernet
MakoreToday at 2:47 AM
But they are forgetting the Switch isn't a multi-process thing
fresh osprey
I’m not saying it’s expensive inter
neon hinge
Sorry?
spice thistle
Multi-process like the Xbox One or PS4
neon hinge
Are you telling me that a phone can be multiprocess but a switch can't?
fresh osprey
I’m saying they don’t need to spend money on servers because cell service functions as a server
neon hinge
Even tho they run similar cpu?
neon hinge
And I'm saying that your phone would be using your wifi instead of it's cell data
spice thistle
Im with intervention with that part
fresh osprey
Yeah but still, your phone sets up the server
versed pebble
the switch is as multipurpose as the other consoles, one of my team as using it tongiht to listen to my show
fresh osprey
^
spice thistle
Multipurpose no, multi process like the XO or the PS4
versed pebble
where as, the PS4 and XB1 can both stream, do voice chat, game and keep your friends happy at teh same time... yeah...
teh Switch CAN do it, the SOFTWARe holds it back, cos Nintendo are stuck in 2004
fresh osprey
^
spice thistle
I know the software holds it back, and that's what I am talking about
fresh osprey
But that’s Nintendo’s choice
spice thistle
For now, and if they want to change it in the future it can, or not change it at all
neon hinge
But it' has already been delayed for over a year
fresh osprey
they had the chance to change t though
neon hinge
When do they want to change it?
fresh osprey
They delayed the service
spice thistle
When the Xbox one was shit in their first year?
fresh osprey
And added nothing
Dude
They can literally look at why other services failed
And improve on it
But they didn’t
versed pebble
nintendo could have paid new staff to jump ship from other companies, make a handheld, portable game system that could literally rival the other consoles.... they failed
fresh osprey
They spent a year doing nothing
versed pebble
they failed at simple business
spice thistle
The 3ds still owns the Portable territory tho
versed pebble
hell, look at how they treat streamers/youtubers
versed pebble
but the Switch is trying to replace the WiiU and 3DS at the same time
spice thistle
shrugs For me they can go do some real work rather than live from views
versed pebble
Nintendo have been the Emperor of portable gaming for 20 years and they blew it
neon hinge
... @spice thistle Being a full-time youtuber is a real job. Most of the big ones even hire people to help them
spice thistle
Like they do, did the same with the Virtual Boy, the Gamecube was a failure
neon hinge
Is not up to you to decide what's a job and what's not.
versed pebble
<--- real job
neon hinge
Is up to whatever the people doing it, on individual level, decide to say
Also, an actor is not a real job either
They're just making faces in front of a camera
spice thistle
It's my opinion and...from what I have seen in twitch/youtube
neon hinge
(That's how silly what you said is)
neon hinge
Saying that youtuber/twitch is "not a real job" is exactly the same than saying an actor/actress, like Viggo Mortensen, is not a real job either
Because their job is the same: Entertain
versed pebble
I'm honestly shocked you think that Mak
spice thistle
Anyone can be a youtuber/twitch, with no real preparation at all and just try/fail
neon hinge
Anyone can be an actor or singer too
spice thistle
I'm sorry Lone, but that's my thought
neon hinge
If you have natural talent?
versed pebble
you realise you're saying all the wowhead staff and some of the volunteers aren't doing a real job right?
neon hinge
Try to be a youtuber / streamer
spice thistle
If the coat suits you?
versed pebble
*fits
spice thistle
Same thing
neon hinge
This convo has ended for me, I'll go back to do some more interesting things than debate about this
versed pebble
London fashion week would disagree
spice thistle
You do you, intervencion
versed pebble
right, do I spend over teh odds for a pint from the hotel bar, or just make a decaff coffee...
spice thistle
And you do you too, Lone
Even if I don't think good of streamers, I still wish you luck
fresh osprey
Dude, if someone is paying their bills doing a thing, that’s their job
That’s not something you get to have an opinion on
If you make money from something and that’s how you pay for things, that’s your job
Street beggar is a job in some places
Like - you literally don’t get a choice in this matter
If something pays money and it’s how you make a living, it’s your job
Prostitution is also a job
spice thistle
Shrugs Opinions are opinions, I am aware that it causes different reactions and all that stuff, but that's just me, if you look at it as a job and it gives you something to eat, go for it.
fresh osprey
You might not like it
You don’t get to have opinions about the definitions of words
That’s not how language works
versed pebble
oldest job in the world
spice thistle
Says who, peach?
fresh osprey
“
a paid position of regular employment.”
spice thistle
If you are pissed about what I said, that's you
fresh osprey
Merrim fucking Webster’s
The fucking definition of a job is regular employment
What that means is if you have a schedule and regularly get paid, you have a job
versed pebble
`opinion
əˈpɪnjən/
noun
noun: opinion; plural noun: opinions
1.
a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.`
Aka, you don’t get to have opinions about knowledge
spice thistle
Call me ignorant if you want
fresh osprey
Because that’s not defined by an opinion
You aren’t ignorant, you are factually wrong
versed pebble
Ignorant would be the wrong word...
`ignorant
ˈɪɡn(ə)r(ə)nt/
adjective
adjective: ignorant
1.
lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.`
Just like you can’t have an opinion on if the earth is round or if climate change is occurring
Facts don’t care about your opinion. They just are
versed pebble
but I would also say, saying it's not a job, in a fansite discord that uses that business model makes me wonder
fresh osprey
^
ruby minnow
Oh peach I finished off Mon HUns main story =D
spice thistle
Wonder what? If they are going to ban me just for saying that?
versed pebble
and frankly... https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-03-19-fortnite-twitch-streamer-ninja-is-making-usd500-000-a-month
ruby minnow
now setting up the sexiest charged blade set. I'll help if ya need.
the final fight is a doozy
versed pebble
half a mil a month? damn...
fresh osprey
Then I think I have to do xeno
ruby minnow
yup
fresh osprey
Again Makore, your opinions don’t change the definition of a word. You can go around saying “I think the word potato means oranges” but that doesn’t change the definition of the word potato.
spice thistle
And peach, no matter what you say, I am still going to think and stand on my ground about what I think
spice thistle
It seems to matter for you enough to make a discussion about it so...
fresh osprey
I’m trying to explain to you how opinions work
versed pebble
well thats not quite right peach, in fairness, he CAN think that, just like I have certain views on politics, religion, etc... even on some jobs, but hey
fresh osprey
Those are things that you can have an opinion on
And as I said, you can think them
But it doesn’t change reality
spice thistle
It doesn't change reality, I agree with it
fresh osprey
If I think potato means orange, it doesn’t change that potato means potato
versed pebble
oo be fair, i think vegan bloggers aren't relaly doing a real job... but then thats the same as what Mak thinks of games journalists
sorry, streamers, that is the real distinction here right?
spice goblet
What are ya'll screaming about this time?
onyx wren
keep calm and stare at this adorable bunny
fresh osprey
Jobs can be bullshit, but that doesn’t make them any less of a real job since they are a Source or income
versed pebble
Harry is sleeping, no one shout!
fresh osprey
‘That’s not a real job’ is more of a figure of speech than it is literally
So using it literally is not only incorrect linguistically, but incorrect logically as well
spice thistle
It is as easy as just say "It's different than that, but do you do mate"
versed pebble
like the dad that said 20 years ago, gaming isn't a job, go play football!
the irony huh
fresh osprey
Since if they are making money from said ‘not real job’ then it is by definition actually a job
onyx wren
peach, my fren, calm down with the big words
spice thistle
Making money from donations and partnership
versed pebble
so by that definition, do you think sports isn't a job?
genuine question, not criticising
onyx wren
you donut need to rant about how streaming is tEChNicALLy a job
onyx wren
sports as in like, nfl and that stuff?
versed pebble
Rugby finally getting contractually paid in the 2019 season here in UK, excited
spice thistle
What I was on about was career jobs
spice thistle
It has been, but where I live its "having a career job" or live in poberty (Mexico, yeah, call me from the third world or whatever you want to call me, idk)
versed pebble
Mexico isn't third world... well, unless you listen to the orange baby
spice thistle
It's a biased opinions of all, but even if they are on "decline" someone has to be medics, engineers, and those
onyx wren
makore
spice thistle
Which is what I am aiming for (System Engineering) And watching like...that streamer that win 500 a month
for just playing
It's kinda...you know
Depressing
spice goblet
@fresh osprey i can get paid for chores regularly, that doesn't make it a job
versed pebble
but Mak, the same was said about Footballers just a decade ago before streaming showed video games have a place
spice thistle
It's more a
versed pebble
`The 8 highest-paid soccer players in the world
Lionel Messi. Pay: $111 M.
Cristiano Ronaldo. Pay: $108 M. ...
Neymar. Pay: $90 M. ...
Gareth Bale. Pay: $34.6 M. Salary/winnings: $28.6 M. ...
Paul Pogba. Pay: $29.5 M. Salary/winnings: $25 M. ...
Oscar. Pay: $27.4 M. Salary/winnings: $25.9 M. ...
Wayne Rooney. Pay: $27 M. Salary/winnings: $22 M. ...
Luis Suarez. Pay: $26.9 M. Salary/winnings: $19.9 M. ... `
all out of work by 30
spice thistle
Biased view against those jobs that you can get without studying
versed pebble
now sure, i have 3 decades of journalism under my belt, but I could teach you how to do it and literlaly pay you, does that make it a job then?
spice thistle
And yes, it is a third world...or the part where I am where you cant be a streamer, analyzer
versed pebble
we live in a global economy Mak, you get the skills, they will take you to a new country if needed, hell, maybe even Murica
spice thistle
Informal job
Look Lone, it's nothing personal against ALL streamers, but...from what I have seen (Girl Streamers where the camera is focused on the boobs and you just keep feeding them money and scum like that) I developed a biased view, mostly against the part of just getting a kickstart for a gaming pc and just a sane/insane sense of humour to make people watch at you
versed pebble
oh, totlaly with you on tittie streamers
spice thistle
It's just...a biased thing against them
versed pebble
they ruin it for good streamers like Annie
thats not bias, thats genuine annoyance, totally with you there
tinged with sadness at the poor saps that can only think they are having a relationship with said streamer
neon hinge
I agree that they don't help to other female streamers too
But if it's allowed in Twitch/Youtube I can't do anything to it 🤷
Just... not support them
versed pebble
just like my other half reminds me the scrotty kids that broke into our 79yr old neighbours house and stole her insulin doesn't mean all kids are like that
neon hinge
wtf
versed pebble
yeah man, other half called me today while I was on teh train about it... so annoyed
spice thistle
And it's the same with what were discussing before with Nintento, although that is my pure fanboyism for a console where I was born. I know the service is shit and an insult, but if I support, is with hopes to have them realize what is wrong and not, even if japanese people are too closed minded (As we could see with no one of the japanese people coming for hype stuff and just Reggie instead) I am a stuborn supporter.
Back into the streaming is just annoyance against certain individuals. I didn't mean to insult you Lone, by the way, sorry if you felt like that.
versed pebble
didn't care more like
neon hinge
true
fresh osprey
@spice goblet if you are getting paid for chores and you are sustaining yourself off of that income, it is a job, but if you are living with someone else who is paying for everything it isnt a job since you arent using the money as income and for sustaining yourself
versed pebble
actually already have a chat lined up with our local police officer and councillor about the state of our area
"Carer" is a job getting paid to do chores
fresh osprey
^
versed pebble
being one, can confirm, i got paid to care for my other half for four years
fresh osprey
and again, career jobs are dying - the service sector is being automated
neon hinge
Working to be paid for "products" or "services"
That's complicated
I prefer to work for actual money
versed pebble
oh artists, thats a job too
neon hinge
Rather than for food
fresh osprey
most remaining jobs will be scientists, engineers, designers, and jobs that involve creativity
so artists, entertainers, sports too
versed pebble
I have been considering going and getting my architecture degree, incase teh business dies
fresh osprey
doctors can and will be replaced with robots
fresh osprey
knowledge of self and sentience =/= human
humans are also defined by their physical forms
if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it better have the internals of a duck, or its not a duck
spice thistle
I don't know man, I wouldn't never do an automated thing that goes into the internet
versed pebble
fun fact, do you know where the term "Hooker" comes from?
fresh osprey
makore, everything is being automated
fresh osprey
name a job
unless its in the small list from earlier - it is probably being automated
versed pebble
I relaly hope this is still being worked on...
spice thistle
I haven't seen a career job that doesn't have to do with inovation tbh
fresh osprey
considering last update was in 2015
idk
uh
doctors are a career job
hell, being a manager is a career job
being a chef
running a restaurant
spice thistle
Do you automatized food?
fresh osprey
its slowly happening, yes
spice thistle
gag
fresh osprey
food is just math and patterns
spice thistle
I still prefer homemade food
fresh osprey
a robot can statistically do a beter job because it is more consistent
versed pebble
fresh osprey
eventually automated and printed food will be the standard
versed pebble
it is homemade if the machine is in your home
fresh osprey
we arent there yet
spice thistle
Can it have the "human" factor?
fresh osprey
it will likely taste better
since what makes food taste good is a result of consistency, accuracy, and chemistry
neon hinge
Human factor is just a variable of imperfections
versed pebble
by "homemade" what doyou mean though?