'more options'
#no-wow-discussion
fresh osprey
A few exciting additions are the lifespan toggle (dinosaurs no longer die of old age), cash level toggle (decide how much cash is available to you), various difficulty settings (dinosaur variety, rating, guest count, and economics), feeder resupply toggle (no more pesky ranger jobs!), and power toggle (no power stations or power requirements needed, as well as no power outages).
versed pebble
well the main part is a ton more missions for the three company parts
fresh osprey
but that doesnt fix any issues
versed pebble
and who knew a TRex would live happily with 6 Dilophosaurs...
versed pebble
not one spot of trouble from them, not the triceratops in teh next paddock, utter ballache
TRex usually like to be alone
now the indominus ate anything that came close 😄
fresh osprey
i mean
i think alone means like - similarly sized predators
its like humans vs rats
theyre on different levels
fresh osprey
biggest flaw with those movies is T-Rex giving any fucks about humans
we wouldnt be prey
versed pebble
funnily, she survived too
fresh osprey
back then they assumed T-Rex was a hunter
and even then, he would hunt things that are actually viable food sources
versed pebble
this was great
fresh osprey
its just like humans dont eat rats because its inefficient
does the episode go to talk about a real trex vs the movie one?
versed pebble
yeah, loving the new dino science coming out about them, the computer models are relaly making a difference huh
ruby minnow
And yes Peach I do have MHW.
fresh osprey
not to mention the awesomeness that is baby tyrannosaurs aka nanotyrannas
versed pebble
but hey, still love Jurassic Park
ruby minnow
and yes it is so fucking weeb.
versed pebble
haha
fresh osprey
i love jurassic park too
i do not love the game
its disappointingly lacking in management gameplay
ruby minnow
I would need your thingy to PM ya
Oh wait which game JP game Peach?
Genesis, The telltale game, etc
fresh osprey
evolution
ruby minnow
I just made a t-rex and unleashed it on a heavily populated park and then released the raptors to deal with the t-rex and then released a bunch of dilo's to deal with the raptors and you can see where I was going with this.
versed pebble
yeah Peach, totlaly get SM when it's on offer
fresh osprey
i plan to
versed pebble
it was on sale last week
fresh osprey
yeah but im currently broke
versed pebble
tell me about it
I need to buy the new Tomb raider next week too
cos Square Enix have three press departments, US, EU and Japan... I'm registered on EU, but NA is the ones handling it of course 😦
fresh osprey
i enjoy the video you linked
but i dislike the lack of talking about how T-Rex was a scavenger
versed pebble
Kyle Hill is great, those Because Science videos are some of the best things to come out of Nerdist
fresh osprey
and probably wouldve ignored you in the first place
ruby minnow
I fully believe it's worth the full price.
Having only bought it 9 days ago and raked 106 hours on it
spring burrow
MHW is so much fun
earnest shell
having enough fun in wow for now
versed pebble
all the MHW chat in here 😄
ruby minnow
Glorious PC gaming master race
amber lantern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrLhrRMyPMA this is where tortollan quest originated from
paper kraken
“Dolly and Dot are my best friends, they pull my wagon through dunes of sand. They’ve got big teeth and they like to eat ...”
versed pebble
:O
Batman: The Animated Series premiered 26 years ago today!
God damn I'm old...
spice goblet
how old are you?
vagrant solar
Too old ?
spice goblet
he's at least 7 years older than me
versed pebble
39
spice goblet
oh nice
earnest shell
0+++++++
gaunt notch
cat on keyboard? looks like something my cat likes to say
lost plinth
sigh I'm gonna need to update my CPU one of these days
probably not for a while though cause I'm not gonna be home for a few months
spice thistle
I just asked for a refund of PuBG
versed pebble
good luck
spice thistle
Im gonna try an buy something better later
ruby minnow
Mon Hun World is a good investment
spice thistle
I had bought a lot of games for the pc
versed pebble
spice thistle
Might buy Splatoon 2 tbh
fresh osprey
MHW is bae
lost plinth
yeah CPU really feels the pain on MHW
20fps with stutters on low
GPU ain't even at 50% though
ruby minnow
Oh yea no. You can't play that game like that.
fresh osprey
I mean
I have a amd fx 4350
Mixed settings
It does pretty acceptably
Though I do have an rx 480
It is a cpu hog, but it can easily be made to run on lower rigs
Turn of volume rendering
Off
That’s the big one
versed pebble
Twitter
ruby minnow
fresh osprey
Oh n
No
Not Burt Reynolds
That’s two people
Celebrities always die in 3s
....
😢
cold grove
Smokey finally caught the Bandit, was a helluva ride though, and a legendary stache too
ruby minnow
I think its more surprising that Wildstar was still alive.
versed pebble
beat me to it peach, not surprised by that news at all
versed pebble
I find it amusing, my old station manager laughed at me for sticking with wow for work when Wildstar was superior... yeah, who's laughing now
fresh osprey
when wildstar went f2p, i knew it was gonna die eventually
im honestly surprised it took this long
versed pebble
me too
sad to hear Defiance 2050 hasn't actually improved on what was bad in the first version...
spice thistle
man i honestly suck at this game, kirby air raid
unreal bluff
Hi all. Yes NCsoft are a dumpster fire. I signed a petition to save WildStar but I don't hold onto much hope. Just gonna take so many screenshots I give myself carpal tunnel
I should make a GoFundMe. Will anyone support me? I want to go to Korea and open the NCsoft executives' windows in their expensive high-rise apartments and turn a Varmint Vac on reverse to blow a dozen or so canada geese right into their living spaces
fresh osprey
you wouldnt be able to get the geese there
and they likely own houses
executives are very wealthy
also, they had every reason to shut down wildstar
i understand you liked the game
but you cant overlook the obvious fact that it was a commercial failure
and a company doesnt have any reason to be sentimental, but they have every reason to do everything they can to please investors and increase profits
supporting a game that isnt bringing in profit, and might even make you look bad (especially in Asia where standards of success are very different) just isnt an option
thats how you lose your job as an executive
Carbine Studios failed not just with WildStar, but with several internal projects
the end result, is not surprising in the least
I realize the above sounds cold - I am not trying to invalidate your feelings about what is happening, I am just stating the most likely logical reason behind the decision to shut down the studio and end the game
unreal bluff
@fresh osprey it's not just WildStar, it's the failure of NCsoft projects in general for years
unreal bluff
well, I have a bunch of WildStar WIPs I could post here…
versed knoll
Lineage 2 is really the only thing ncsoft gas going for them. The mobile game is still going good to I guess.
tawdry pulsar
Happy Friday everyone! Wishing you all a really good and happy day! 🌞 🌸 🌟
And as sad as it is that Wildstar is sunsetting, it was kinda.... to be expected. I had lots of fun playing it at release, it was a very nice game, with great humour, amazing housing, and lots of good ideas!
versed pebble
😄
torn thorn
Looks like a woman on the last one
also
Anyone knows any decent rap and electro/pop/rock mashups?
I really love them, but good ones are so rare
Here's the examples
torn thorn
ember ferry
Watch Ali A
torn thorn
So you're saying it's complete shit?
spice goblet
so you're saying it's not?
spice goblet
^
spice thistle
If you think its complete shit, that's up to you
unreal bluff
spice goblet
what
unreal bluff
I am both the writer and the artist
"Haha I can do whatever I want without worrying about casting actors, lighting sets, etc." "AAAAAAH I HAVE TO DRAW IT FML"
fresh osprey
Adhara
Ncsoft isn’t failing
Carbine studios was and did
So ncsoft is shutting them down
It’s the most logical conclusion
unreal bluff
they are failing because of NCsoft's poor decisions
NCsoft from their offices in Korea set unrealistic sales expectations, and when the games can't meet them (surprise surprise), NCsoft goes "welp it's your fault time to shoot you like an injured horse"
which is why WS is the last NCsoft game I will ever play
I want to see NCsoft go down in flames just like I want to see EA go down in flames
I am a gamer and I vote with my wallet
neon hinge
Interesting
shrewd wave
hey does anyone have like a small freeze in the character selection screen when just logging in? ever since patch update this has been happening
fresh osprey
Except wild star went free to play before ncsoft bought them right?
I’m fairly certain they bought carbine for their assets
Not for the devs or games
It’s why their valuation was enough to be considered an expense and why wildstar wasn’t listed as a game with income since their quarterly 2016 reports
dark aspen
Reminds me of those two bosses from Ahn'Qiraj
glad reef
astral belfry
Anyone here wants to be...friends? I've got no one to play with on US realms (alliance) and I usually do older raids for mogs and what not, achiev hunting & mounts/pets. Gets kinda lonely 
torn thorn
@astral belfry sorry, but you should type that in #group-raid-us
astral belfry
Ah oops, ty :)
spice goblet
i'll be ur friend, @astral belfry but I can't promise I can help with WoW
tawdry pulsar
HAPPY SATURDAY guys! Wishing you a great day! 🌞 🌸 🌟
spice goblet
versed pebble
ikr 😄
unreal bluff
spice goblet
Sup thots
unreal bluff
giving myself permanent nerve damage from tendonitis that's what
screenshotting aaallllllll the armour, weapons, and cosmetic stuff in WildStar
unreal bluff
yes
Finished writing the script for a 1st WS fancomic, working on the art for it now and the script for its sequel. I have no intent of sunsetting my comics. Just the opposite, in fact. I’m gonna Pirates of Dark Water this shit, write my own ending, and die on the hill of my headcanon.
tawdry pulsar
Hey guys, is there any place where to share some content creation, such as videos? Or is it forbidden on this Discord?
spice goblet
#no-wow-discussion unless it's on-topic or obvious advertising/ promotional content
if it's advertising/ promotional content, you need to ask staff
spice goblet
cause xbox sucks
deft vapor
so, uh... Slay the Spire... simple but addictive
I've set myself into an endless challenge mode where enemies have triple the normal HP.... still killing it
lost plinth
Well I played that Budget Cuts game on VR
would've been nice if someone told me that a whimsical stealth game turns into a survival horror on the last level
why does this always happen when I get popular games. I even fell for DDLC when it was new and that one fucked me right up
spice goblet
NOICE
solemn trail
Made a map as if Elwynn returned in BfA for whatever reason
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/9e9iak/im_back_i_made_the_four_surrounding_zones_of/
timber crag
@solemn trail WoW. Nice Freaking Map!
solemn trail
Thanks @timber crag !!
earnest shell
wow, I really need to check out that software hehe
obtuse gust
Monster Musume Crossover - WoW Demon Hunter, Cathyl the Minotaur (art by HowXu) https://www.deviantart.com/howxu/art/commission-Cathyl-763259500
solemn trail
Restored Plaguelands map! Finally done!
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/9efg6y/the_plaguelands_have_been_restored_in_battle_for/
versed pebble
hey guys, our artist just posted the speedpaint for our wow BfA game of the month artwork if any of you wanna have a look
It's not a station video, but the artists
unreal bluff
lol someone told me about a gifmaker and now I'm having way too much fun
spice goblet
what game is that
unreal bluff
WildStar
spice goblet
nice
tawdry pulsar
Thank you @spice goblet for your answer!
spice goblet
wat
tawdry pulsar
it was earlier today, but you kindly answered a question. so thank you!
spice goblet
ok
neon hinge
@timber crag don't send ref links please
neon hinge
I can, but you can too
sick vine
Not on mobile, doesnt seem so. Can't find the option 😁
versed pebble
click and hold the post for the menu
sick vine
I was clicking and holding on the wrong pixel... My fault!
spice thistle
How come that the remasters, with all the graphics, seems to lag behind the originals?
fresh osprey
What do you mean?
spice thistle
Sometimes, when retexturing and adding new assets, the remasters seem to unintentionally get rid of the atmosphere of the game, I'm watching this on GoW Ultimate Edition
onyx wren
I don't see any of my picture posts until like 12h later because no data
Or anything in this chat, really
ruby minnow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOUBvzmizA0 @spice thistle step your game up.
spice thistle
nani
spring burrow
Oh shit I remember that video
versed pebble
damnit, Redbubble removed out game of the month WoW art for copyright reasons... damnit
onyx wren
verbal cradle
versed pebble
gutted IGN beat wowhead to it
I'd have to repaint that diablo statue
meh, not relaly missing anything in there
crisp turret
waiting on a faction change....=/
versed pebble
dunno if thats appropriate Queen... but I think the <@&299347348847329281> will decide
fallen nexus
WHO DARES SUMMON ME
naive pecan
fallen nexus
Don’t post things like that.
torn thorn
what's wrong with it?
fallen nexus
It doesn’t really have a place here?
torn thorn
¯_(ツ)_/¯
fallen nexus
My go-to rule is that if I wouldn’t allow it on our site forums, I won’t allow it here either.
naive pecan
Yup i'll back up Thulm here, that type of content is just not needed. Can also be a pretty sensitive topic. No need for it to be posted.
spice goblet
wait, what was it
obtuse gust
torn thorn
@spice goblet a girl streaming from her phone, showing off her gun, accidentally shoots phone, stream freezes, chat laughs
spice goblet
oof
torn thorn
Ye, lol
versed pebble
so, while doing my show, just tidying up some music folders... I think I'm good for a while on music huh?
who needs spotify huh 😄
spice goblet
wat
deft vapor
Well, I guess that's a way to guarantee you don't have repeated songs
versed pebble
yeah
the software weights tracks too, so the more it gets played, the less often it'll come up
deft vapor
huh, neat
versed pebble
shame the developers are idiots, but ho hum
deft vapor
Well, so long as it works and does what it's supposed to, that's good enough.
That's not to say improvements, where possible, aren't welcome.
versed pebble
yeah, wanna get our tech team built and make our own
kindred flare
hey do you guys think this game will be any good? thoughts? https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Geffin
spice goblet
No
kindred flare
why not?
deft vapor
I thought Crysis was the "Benchmark: the Game" meme
kindred flare
:0
spice thistle
How 2 benchmarl
versed pebble
Ashes is good from the Alpha build I played so far, but the community, if their official discord is anything to go by, is TERRIBLE
here you go
neon hinge
@deft vapor yeah, too. But that ashes of the singularity is also heavy on load so I've seen people use it
tame stump
@safe sable @latent lance @storm agate
Not sure if any Wowhead Staff has watched this yet but here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHHKi-IYvvE&feature=youtu.be
safe sable
😮
latent lance
ooo
spice thistle
hmm yo lone, is it illegal to stream from an emulator?
safe sable
Illegal no. Is it against Blizzard's ToS? yes
(aka, can you lose your wow account? yes)
spice thistle
not brozzard games
spice thistle
Ye
safe sable
I think it is a gray line
spice thistle
I read that its okay if you have the thing in physical
safe sable
but most people streaming, specially old games, probably do from emulators
yea, that's what people usually post on rom websites, that you can only download if you have the physical game
but I never saw anywhere unbiased posting about that
so take it with a grain of salt
spice thistle
ah
versed pebble
hey Mak, I believe it is fine, as LONG as you OWN the originals, same as having a personal rip of a CD or DvD, for personal use it's fine
the copyright is fuzzy, but rule of thumb, don't waste your time with nintendo
spice thistle
It's not like i want to monetize stuff
is just a casual stream for friendos that are sadistic pieces of fack
versed pebble
here you go, the full legalese with TL;dr
https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/3vods0/are_roms_legal_to_stream/
however, this still holds up til the replu changes of course...
https://twitter.com/JohnBscv/status/400037895819362306
https://twitter.com/TwitchSupport/status/400038351908007936
https://twitter.com/JohnBscv/status/400038900229349376
Twitter
Twitter
Twitter
now, there is a TOTALLY legal way to do it too...
Buy one of the newer retro consoles that can play the actual carts, THEn, you can stream totally legally
versed pebble
what sort of monster would do this to windows 10...?!?
timber crag
I liked windows 98
timber crag
guys
I need help from a tech savvy
I go from 80 FPS on world content to 15 in raids
where should I start the troubleshoot?
neon hinge
@timber crag What are your antialising settings?
Do you also have low FPS in legion or BFA forests ?
neon hinge
Wow
neon hinge
Let me log in
neon hinge
Try reducing Particle Density, SSAO (On Graphics) & Multisample Alpha-Test, MSAA (advanced)
brittle wing
random mantle
ruby minnow
I'm disappointed @random mantle I expected ear rape as a literal 1.5 million turtles made it to the water.
versed pebble
A🐢turtle🐢made🐢it🐢to🐢the🐢water🐢!
novel tiger
I saw it
spring heath
What got deleted? o.0
ruby minnow
My post.
novel tiger
His message. Bot has deleted it because message had too many emojis
deft vapor
versed pebble
?
ruby minnow
neon hinge
It's to prevent spam, sorry about that ^^"
ruby minnow
Nah no worries
novel tiger
versed pebble
I copy/pasted WoW's facebook post 😄
deft vapor
I don't get how that is too many emoji's when Lone's post has 1 more...
versed pebble
no spaces in mine
deft vapor
I guess that makes sense... and that too.
ruby minnow
Bias
versed pebble
pay to win
deft vapor
WoWhead next EA confirmed 
versed pebble
yeah Inter, not watched WW in months, my sub goes elsewhere sorry
neon hinge
I guess is less likely for a premium user to spam emojis
versed pebble
but $1 a month for ad free, hell yeah
neon hinge
In a harmful way I mean
yeah dw
I just remember you used to be twitch sub, that's why I said it
Each own has it's interests 👌🏼
Oh, Origin has BF1 premium pass free
spice knot
hey guys whats the best way to get 50k gold on a dead server without ah in one day with 2 chars
spring heath
Sell pets
Otherwise? shrug
Get super lucky with a mount drop from BfA and sell it
spice knot
how many gold do raid farming gets you
spring heath
Depends on the raid, really, but I'm not sure. It's not something I track when I go farm
Usually I go for mog or mounts, so
spice knot
Me too, I was thinking of farming every cataclysm and pandaria raid but I heard they were nerfed
ruby minnow
You won't get enough with just 2 characters.
spice knot
and draenor raids aswell
ruby minnow
they were nerfed ages ago and pre-nerf they didn't make you that much.
spice knot
spice thistle
I heard bias
versed pebble
hmm..., ok, it would seem my router is borked... pretty sure this is wrong 😄
pallid fulcrum
versed pebble
bloody hell Bungie...
Everyone that got raid gear early from that exploit is allowed to keep it, cos Bungie admit it's their screw up
versed pebble
damn that hurricane barreling down on US east coast looks rough
sorry to those in it's path...
deft vapor
Disco-nade, looks cool
versed pebble
thats cool
sullen nymph
badass!
versed pebble
hey @fallen nexus are you in the path of the Hurricane?
fallen nexus
Yes I am.
versed pebble
stay safe dude, you evacuating or is the disconade for Florence?
ruby minnow
spoken like a true floridian
quasi zodiac
He has the high ground so he doesn't have to worry
quasi zodiac
Working till 8 with my best friend woop woop
lost plinth
Oh cool, who?
Denmark or something?
The problem with companies like EA and Activision
is they're absolutely unrepentant
ruby minnow
I think its Belgium
all things considered
@spice thistle which one
I think it's Belgium but it could be Hawaii
spice thistle
Belgium
I dont get loot boxes
Why add them into a game if you have already cash
Like
Make the gamers work for those rewards
ruby minnow
The reason is this Mak.
It's not actually about rewards
or whatever jargon anyone spews
spice thistle
Loot boxes is the reason of why people where whining about Allied races
lost plinth
Because companies are not satisfied with having lots of money
They want all of the money
spice thistle
Why is that better than make a requeriment for x thing
lost plinth
Like, take Destiny 2
it's been getting better with this but it's still unforgivable
tons of good looking shit people would work for
paywalled
spice thistle
I think those companies need to stop making videogames
spice thistle
I dont get why are you defending it
lost plinth
Like you're trying to paint this in the worst possible light. the fact that some companies like EA will milk every available thing is well founded and obvious
lost plinth
Activision patented a damn system to misguide people into buying lootboxes
ruby minnow
Indeed. and they should be punished, FOR THAT SYSTEM.
ruby minnow
You want to know why Lootboxes are placed into the game? Like the legitimate unbiased opinion?
spice thistle
Let's read your legitimate unbiased opinion
ruby minnow
Games are getting more and more expensive to make and maintain. A single player game is bought only once. No matter how much time is spent playing that game, the company only recieved 60 USD from the person playing. Whether they played it for 1 hour or 1000.
Eventually, thanks to the overinflation of the US dollar, companies start to take a hit and massive losses on making games versus making money
You can actually see this in other venues of the vast open market we're blessed in.
onyx wren
I have entered mountain time zone
spice thistle
And do you think that's a valid reason for those companies that are big af?
lost plinth
sub costs. expansion packs. cut down on the scale of games/manpower.
ruby minnow
Yes. It's a 100% valid reason. A company must make money and keep making money.
But here's the issue:
spice thistle
It's not a valid reason when the final product you are delievering is an overglorified shit, vris
lost plinth
Loot boxes and the gambling inherent is fully unnecessary and thoroughly inexcusable
onyx wren
lost plinth
There are other methods to keep cashflow throughout a game's life
spice thistle
Which is what EA has been doing along Ubisoft and Activision
ruby minnow
I see I won't get my points in
spice thistle
Lootboxes arent the way
ruby minnow
This is why I wanted to check out as soon as we started shoveling everything else around.
lost plinth
You can't just complain you're being suppressed when a counterargument is presented
spice thistle
We dont see the big AAA doing lootboxes
ruby minnow
It's not a counter argument, I'm not allowed to get my word in.
The moment I post 1 thing you rebuttle it by a thousand other things
and yes Mak
Yes we do
Literally. Overwatch.
Overwatch had lootboxes and it was perfectly fine.
There was no rage about it
spice thistle
Blizzard is a piece of shit of company that copies game styles
lost plinth
because lootboxes were earned fucking easily
ruby minnow
there was no hatred towards blizzard.
spice thistle
And makes progress games just for the sake of their money
spice thistle
Overwatch had been always a shit tho
ruby minnow
Let me point out the reason we hate lootboxes.
lost plinth
Companies that introduce lootboxes that are either impossible to get or stingily given out and encourage gambling are the scum.
ruby minnow
Battlefront II. They locked their progression system behind the lootboxes.
lost plinth
See: destiny 2.
spice thistle
And it will ever mark it
ruby minnow
That is what started this whole topic to begin with.
That is why other games who's lootboxes are perfectly fine are being tared and feathered.
lost plinth
So Destiny 2, it puts lootboxes with enough content to be unobtainable over the time period freely in the game over Christmas. Right or wrong?
spice thistle
Look, I will be always be against lootboxes
ruby minnow
We are villainizing a practice that can be handled perfectly fine because 1 company treated it poorly.
spice thistle
And that's because I always preferred making some effort for those stuff in game
ruby minnow
That's the thing Mak. You did that in overwatch
spice thistle
No Vris, you arent understanding and went directly to another point
lost plinth
Paid loot boxes are gambling with a pretty face on it and are inherently never welcome in video games for me.
ruby minnow
You didn't have to spend a dime on it's lootboxes
lost plinth
I'm happy with giving some money to a game I like and wish to support if I know what I am getting.
ruby minnow
Literally the system you described of earning things and doing it over time
lost plinth
No but y'see, take a game like Destiny
ruby minnow
was in Overwatch
spice thistle
Overwatch doesnt count because there is literally nothing rewarding in the game
lost plinth
Overwatch has lootboxes but the lootboxes are easily and freely obtainable through gameplay.
ruby minnow
Emu even said it's just gambling
spice thistle
They should be just obtainable through gameplay
ruby minnow
blizzard has that model, or you can just buy the boxes, as extra revenue
Again
I'm trying to explain
lost plinth
There are lootboxes, and there are lootboxes with the scum mitigated.
lost plinth
we're trying to present a fucking counterargument lol
spice thistle
Which is easy against lootboxes for paid
ruby minnow
The only point I've gotten to make is that BFII started the hate of Lootboxes, a legitimate system that can be handled legitimately.
lost plinth
if a game will have lootboxes, that's shit. I don't agree with it. However if they make them easier to get through gameplay I will hate it less.
ruby minnow
but because 1 company screwed the pooch, we're villainizing it
spice thistle
What stops the rest of scummy companies from doing so?
ruby minnow
Dunno if you've noticed it
THE MARKET
If sales tank, they won't do it a second time. Companies don't like wasting their money.
lost plinth
It is a terrible and unnecessary practice that so often leads down a slippery slope and has no place in the gaming industry. But it's so ingrained now it's never gonna go, so now there's just different levels of shitbaggery
Lootboxes in a game are an awful practice. Bottom line. It's what a game does to mitigate it that saves it.
Battlefront 2, did nothing. It was lampooned.
ruby minnow
sigh
lost plinth
Overwatch, for example (I hate the game in general idc) made them easy to obtain.
lost plinth
Destiny 2, locked the cool content away and lied to players about obtaining them freely.
ruby minnow
is that lootboxes were disliked but generally accepted. Until Battlefront II locked their progression system behind that.
lost plinth
There's a 1-10 scale on scumminess surrounding the practice.
ruby minnow
THEN this whole controversy around them started
and companies that are completely innocent are getting punished.
lost plinth
BF2 started the debate on their necessity for real.
spice thistle
Blizzard is all but innocent
spice thistle
In all terms
lost plinth
Before that, people did 'oh it's got lootboxes, sigh oh well'
ruby minnow
I'm not explaining it again
spice thistle
It's not about the lootboxes that they implemented
ruby minnow
Literally
lost plinth
A problem can exist for a long time before someone gives it a face and a name to rally around.
spice thistle
Blizzard in general is bad
ruby minnow
We're not getting through to each other
I personally don't like them, but as long as it's cosmetic only w/e
lost plinth
sigh what was this argument even about originally, cause I don't think it was just 'lootboxes are bad mkay'
ruby minnow
let the whales fuel the games I love
ruby minnow
That was my final point
spice thistle
And put lootboxes
lost plinth
The bottom line of lootboxes is they always take away from a game. However they can be worse, with the obvious examples being the prime examples.
ruby minnow
You two can make yours and we can end this
spice thistle
Your final point doesnt have to be absolute
spice thistle
That be your final opinion for some reason but honestly if you cant handle to make a game and put lootboxes in it
I think it's time for just pack stuff and move away
lost plinth
tbh I don't really know how long you two were going at it before I got here but really there's only so much time I'm gonna waste on persuading internet strangers so yeah
spice thistle
I agree with you Emu
lost plinth
cause at the end of the day it's really not gonna change anything
and in the most pleasant way, I don't really care what most of you all think
spice thistle
Yeah, the scummy companies will get their lootboxes and we cant do anything
I suppose that's the future of gaming
lost plinth
./shrug if the vocal minority continues to be so that'll probably be the case
vocal pressure will never outweigh $$$$
spice thistle
They will end putting games without anything to unlock by your own terms
And place lootboxes for shit that in the end wont help you but you will still do that
ruby minnow
I see we're still on this
lost plinth
I'm trying real fucking hard not to be
spice thistle
/shrug I just hope EA gets sued hard, that's my last word about the topic
lost plinth
I spent a good few years of my life being unable to have the last word and it was pretty damn shit, would not recommend.
actually
lost plinth
no, unable to not have the last word sorry
plus at the end of the day gamers will be numbers to large companies, as is the inevitable case with companies everywhere
spice thistle
sigh this why I keep my old reliable as my priority even if it doesnt have those high end graphics those scummy companies cheer about
ruby minnow
For me, I'll let them pass unless it's actually inhibiting your progression.
Oh and there is one game that we completely missed
Fallout: Shelter.
It has lootboxes that aren't just cosmetic and no one has even pointed to them
spice thistle
Do we count that shit?
ruby minnow
Lootboxes are lootboxes
spice thistle
No but do we actually acknowledge that game?
ruby minnow
It's a game made by a triple A developer and is released on console, PC, and mobile
So why wouldn't we?
spice thistle
I dont see why a "game" with that genre and "gameplay" should be considered
That kind of thing should have been limited to mobile
ruby minnow
It's a SIMS styled game
and we hated Sims for its lootboxes
why aren't we doing the same for Fallout: Shelter?
spice thistle
I just dislike SIMS in general
ruby minnow
Like now this is just a double standard I've found because I only just realized that Shelter did the lootboxes thing as well. But no ones seen it as a bad thing.
ruby minnow
It's a game. Why wouldn't it be considered a game?
spice thistle
Why acknowledge shit ?
lost plinth
Tbh I'd have counted Shelter if I even knew
Didn't it sorta stick around for a month and fall off the radar entirely
ruby minnow
granted that shelter tosses it's lunchboxes at you like a machine gun
lost plinth
I'll take your word for it tbh
ruby minnow
Nope. It got so popular that it had to be released on console and PC.
ruby minnow
It's not even a shit game lol
lost plinth
I'm surprised cause I tend to rate how much lootboxes ruin a game on 'how much is my enjoyment impeded by them'
silver elk
anyone know how to find out how many 120 tanks there are in game?
ruby minnow
Nope
lost plinth
besides /who probably none
otherwise guildspam would be a lot worse
that's another thing I despise. random guild invites.
ruby minnow
but yea. There are games that are hugely popular with lootboxes that we just kinda ignore. This is like the whole DLC deboggle all over again.
lost plinth
...d'you mean debacle
spice thistle
DLCs are okay as long they arent in the fucking disc
lost plinth
mk ¯_(ツ)_/¯
ruby minnow
but yea. Remember that time? Where people were up in arms over the "TO MUCH DLC WE WANT FULL GAMES" and then shit all over games like Mass Effect that gave you actual content in its DLCs that affected the main story as well as improve the overall gameplay?
where the real issue was on games that locked the story behind its DLC
lost plinth
Like in some cases, if what I am buying is plain and obviously stated to me and I get what I buy, I'm generally ok with it
Take Destiny 2, you can boost a character for the new DLC
ruby minnow
Oh so like what blizz does
neon hinge
I like ME DLCs. I would like them more if they weren't DLC but just something included though
lost plinth
since I want to see everything, my response was 'oh that is useful and you even gave me a free one, thank you'
spice thistle
Things with DLC
ruby minnow
I mean we'd all prefer that Inter, but I still happily bought those DLC.
ruby minnow
It is content that is downloadable.
neon hinge
But yeah, at least mass effect were sidequests
spice thistle
Expansion
ruby minnow
They are named properly.
lost plinth
DLC is a bit more of a broad one, since it can constitute 1hr of meaningful content or 20hrs
neon hinge
I guess expansión is used for bigger dlc packs
ruby minnow
and games that did get expansions as "DLC" they still called em expansions
spice thistle
And for me they were okay if they really added a bunch of things when the game is starting to age
But now if you have a game where the DLC weighs more than the game itself
neon hinge
Problem with dlc is with companies like frigging paradox games
lost plinth
it's also a bit tricksy cause companies can either define 'DLC' by their own standards or end up with them defined by others
spice thistle
And then we have multiplayer DLCs
lost plinth
Like for example we know pretty much what to expect from a WoW 'dlc'/expansion
ruby minnow
And to point out: there are games like Sins of a Solar Empire that recieved its DLC as full on expansions.
neon hinge
I dislike game-mechanics gated behind DLCs. Like, mechanics you can use on non-DLC content
lost plinth
Like D2 Curse of Osiris
lost plinth
Curse of Osiris was a total slap in the face cause it was underwhelming content, very largely tilted towards lootboxes instead of actual playable content, and at a time where we honestly feared as much
neon hinge
D2 as in Destiny 2?
lost plinth
yup
ruby minnow
should probably say Dest 2 or something
neon hinge
I see
ruby minnow
cuz D2 to a lot of us is Diablo 2
lost plinth
and was really the final nail for the franchise for a lot of people, me being one
neon hinge
I kinda asked just in case
lost plinth
ah yeah, ofc
neon hinge
Diablo was pre dlc era tho so I could just guessed Destiny
lost plinth
I played destiny in my years off from wow so lexicon is kinda mixed
neon hinge
(I know it has an expansion)
ruby minnow
the nail in the coffin for the franchise for me was Destiny 1.
Before any of its expacs came out
Four hours of a campaign, Dinklage or not, was unacceptable
spice thistle
I played the demo of it when it first released
neon hinge
I was never interested on destiny. Tried the beta of 2 when was available and didn't like it so nothing to do here for me
And 1 was on consoles so no
spice thistle
I thought it was interesting until someone told me that most of the story was off game or something like that
ruby minnow
I was a big halo kid so I was excited to see what Bungie created after Halo.
lost plinth
eh, Destiny 1 ended up on a neutral level of respect for me tinging on 'some' because it was a shitshow that got better in a big way, which I can sort of recognise seeing as it was from a company with little experience in that specific field
ruby minnow
I don't. I really like what 343 has done for everything that isn't labeled "Halo 5: Guardians"
neon hinge
Only played Reach
spice thistle
And part of the history made me cry
ruby minnow
Doom.
spice thistle
Reach was really good of you dont count it was a big retcon
ruby minnow
It wasn't that much of a retcon.
neon hinge
I can't know that 😂
spice thistle
Eh so so, but they nailed it
neon hinge
Sometimes playing single games of a franchise is good
lost plinth
Destiny 2 however was unforgivable as A. the first few expansions were unarguably tilted towards lootbox content and B. it took approved game mechanics from the previous game and fucked them/removed them
ruby minnow
it just filled that gap
spice thistle
The first halo was really different from all other FPS
neon hinge
You like them whilst missing why they're bad (like, a rip-off of a previous one)
spice thistle
For first you could only get 2 weapons compared to the bunch of weapons other games were
ruby minnow
Halo was an altered Quake clone.
It had a decent story, interesting designs for its aliens, and it was engaging
so people stuck it out for 2.
lost plinth
I never played halo I can contribute nothinggggg
ruby minnow
All while it had that Quake charm for its multiplayer of "OH CRAP HE GOT THE POWER WEAPON RUUUUUUUUUUUUN"
or if you got the power weapon
neon hinge
I see
ruby minnow
"YEEEEEEEEEEEEES HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OVERKILL TIME"
spice thistle
"Run bitch run"
ruby minnow
it even had its own version of the kill streak announcer from Quake
lost plinth
Meanwhile Forsaken has a lot of people kinda poking their head round the door because Bungie fixed Destiny 1 into a vaguely good game in the second year
spice thistle
HOLY SHIT
neon hinge
Quake frag videos are entertaining tbh 😂 there ends my quake knowledge btw
spice thistle
Or was it UT?
I played Quake Champioms
Sadly my connection always gets fucked when I play a fps
No idea why
It happens the same on OW
And in Diablo 3 I cant even log in
neon hinge
I get random disconnects on ow too
ruby minnow
but yea. that's why Halo's multiplayer is so large. A lot of Quake fans who had no more Quake to play and wanted something new but mimic'd Quake
lost plinth
I want to swap to Destiny on PC but A. suspicious if it'll run and B. no progress transfer
neon hinge
Stopped actually playing rankeds because of that
spice thistle
Nah, for me it lags and never dcs me
ruby minnow
I tend to just not play those games because I think my computers power box doesn't work anymore.
neon hinge
And just for ow
ruby minnow
Well, laptops power box anyways
neon hinge
Which is even worse because I can't troubleshoot
spice thistle
Just risk it
lost plinth
I'm never touching overwatch again. Got to Masters with my mates on xb1, sustained it for 2 seasons, took a break to play other new releases and realised how much of a toxic hellhole it was
spice thistle
There are games I touch once and never touch again
lost plinth
I can't play it for enjoyment any more
ruby minnow
I only ever played for the arcade stuff.
spice thistle
Fortnite was one, PUBG was other
ruby minnow
and the six bastion strat
neon hinge
I found myself last week installing Starbound after 5 years (yeah people, I was a beta tester of it when the first beta came out) and I frankly enjoyed it
spice thistle
BF5 just made me sad because I will never like Battle royale
ruby minnow
Starbound huh?
lost plinth
On one hand I want to see what Fortnite's all about. On the other hand I don't want to be a normie/associate with 8yr olds
spice thistle
So I gave up with some games and instead just play old games
neon hinge
And NPC annoy me heavily
neon hinge
I tried fortnite. I didn't like the construction theme / gameplay
lost plinth
I had beta testing for ESO... did that end up good or something?
neon hinge
So un installed it
lost plinth
Remember it being lampooned on release
neon hinge
Just wish pubg was as good coded as fortnite is
ruby minnow
I just play Mon Hun.
spice thistle
I tried guild wars 2 and didnt
ruby minnow
that's my MMO
lost plinth
I play a bit of MHW but I can't get into the multiplayer
lost plinth
and none of my irl friends play
spice thistle
I would buy stuff for the Switch if they werent expensive in here
ruby minnow
Mon Hun World is so much better than the 3DS
neon hinge
"Starbound huh?"
That sounded like "Woah, that's a name I haven't heard in years" 😂 😂 😂
ruby minnow
it's 100% worth the 60 bucks
lost plinth
like, all the times I've used SOS flare on MHW I get some reassurance that some people are more braindead than me
spice thistle
And most of the indies there are just 2d
spice thistle
2d pixel art
neon hinge
Oh OK
lost plinth
Starbound is sort of like terraria but also not
ruby minnow
I looked it up
lost plinth
Similar style
neon hinge
It's a Terraria reskin
ruby minnow
looked a lot like uh
neon hinge
Imo
ruby minnow
F.T.L.
spice goblet
For Azeroth
ruby minnow
I had to quit FTL because I was very addicted to it
spice thistle
What to heck
ruby minnow
Rogue-likes are my bane
lost plinth
Now FTL is a game that'll be fucking timeless
neon hinge
But it's based on Terraria anyways
lost plinth
Y'know what I like? Guns of Icarus online.
neon hinge
It has a roguelike mode though
Starbound I mean
It's just regular hard-core mode tho😂
lost plinth
You get 4 people and an airship and go and fuck other people's airships up
neon hinge
You die, you stay dead
lost plinth
It's lit
unfortunately the game is almost entirely dead
Which is a shame cause games with much worse and lax development get more players
meanwhile Guns of Icarus has pretty solid and passionate devs and gets like 100 players worldwide
neon hinge
Interests are hard man
lost plinth
I've been in games before where the devs take one side and say 'ok if you beat us we'll gift you a cosmetic off the store'
neon hinge
I gotcha anyway
spice thistle
Gun of Icarus
lost plinth
hah yeah
spice thistle
I have that game in steam
spice thistle
never played it becfause i cant get to play it
neon hinge
And sleep
lost plinth
Do you have 'Guns of Icarus' or guns of icarus online/alliance?
spice thistle
onlien
lost plinth
Cause there was a prequel singleplayer sorta game where you just stopped an airship from falling apart and shot NPCs
then they took the concept and made it a coop pvp
spice thistle
I didnt have the chance to try it because i can't make an account
lost plinth
huh
strange
it's been a very long time since I started it out so it's probably changed a bit
I tried one match recently and found out the hard way that ramming enemy ships head on got nerfed a bit
usually I just ordered everyone to get on the large forward guns, left the engine in full forward and went to the forward guns myself
and it mostly worked
spice thistle
I have a lot of multiplayer games
lost plinth
And yeah that's another thing
lost plinth
why everything gotta be multiplayer
Titanfall 2 campaign, God of War 4, Doom, all games with phenomenal singleplayer
spice thistle
I reserve single player for consoles
lost plinth
I could bring this back around to the fact that if you don't have other people to play with who are you gonna buy cosmetics to show off to but let's not go into that shall we
spice thistle
I have Rust too
obtuse gust
spice thistle
Love rust
Played the shit out of it along Don't Starve together
Another of the franchise I played was the Gears of War one
wtb good single player action game with character power progression in third person perspective with gud campaign, fantasy themed
spice thistle
...Only Soulborne?
But i mean, have you played Dante's inferno?
Like those
Played Darksiders 2 btw
i suppose skyrim might be one?
noble granite
Any1 knows why is this happening??
earnest shell
that's just a desktop background
noble granite
dont u see the big red arrow ?:p
neon hinge
Same :S
neon hinge
Except the blank rows on it
earnest shell
for example if I try to use my start menu calculator two times in a row it gives me a black screen till I try using it a third time
recent bug; it used to actually work.
versed pebble
well finally finished the Destiny 2 Forsaken campaign on stream tongiht...
marked improvement over the previous, but still generally lacking, with very little to make folks wanna go back, although good to "get your gun off"
some of the new gear looks sweet though, but totally not worthy of #transmog of course 😄
versed pebble
A funny bug that Bungie has yet to acknowledge involves the new Blind Well public event in the Dreaming City in Destiny 2 Forsaken. In the Blind Well, your team must clear a series of waves of enemies before fighting a boss. Each wave is on a timer, and you have to get a certain number of kills before progressing. One of the weapons you can use is an exotic fusion rifle called Telesto, which has a unique trait that lets it fire globs of purple goo that detonate after a delay. Due to what appears to be an incredibly weird error in the way Destiny registers enemies, Telesto’s exploding blobs count as enemies in the Blind Well. (!!) That means it’s possible for teams to use multiple Telestos to zoom to 100% for each round, effectively skipping straight to the boss.
versed pebble
indeed
ruby minnow
Gen G vs SKT T1 over in the League Championship Korea @spice thistle
versed pebble
oooh...
bye bye DC cinematic Universe, you were pretty crap...
https://twitter.com/TwitterMoments/status/1039883681295413248
soft comet
isn't henry cavill currently working on the netflix witcher series
that'd make sense as to why he left imo
versed pebble
yup
but the confirmation of him being out as Superman puts a nail in that film series coffin
and with Ben Affleck being back in rehab aswell
spice goblet
Ok but Henry Cavill as Geralt doesn't make me excited for the series. I'll probably put it off as long as possible
fresh osprey
That’s the best person we could expect as geralt
ruby minnow
the man will do it justice
fresh osprey
Someone who actually knows the character
spice goblet
Ok but he looks nothing like geralt
ruby minnow
While I do think he'll do it justice however, it'll certainly be a shock as my thousands of hours in the witcher trilogy of games has gotten me used to the grizzled hundred year old man Geralt
spice goblet
^
ruby minnow
Make-up does everythign
fresh osprey
Different subject - Apple conference about to start. I’m hoping for longer battery life and maybe the return of he headphone jack. I’m prepared to be very disappointed
spice goblet
Still doesn't do it for me, Des
ruby minnow
Understandable
ruby minnow
Indeed it will.
fresh osprey
But I think if the writing is good and the CGI is good, it’ll go well
timber crag
indeed
ruby minnow
Though to be fair there's a bit of a contest on if the books should be the current canon or not
since ya know.
The games are the most recent stuff and the author hasn't written any more books and the comics use gruff geralt
fresh osprey
Monster CGI really needs to be on point
If the monsters look bad, then the series will definitely struggle
ruby minnow
It is netflix so I'm not going to expect Spielbergian levels of CGI
but I think they can pull it off.
spice goblet
CGI is usually bad anyway
fresh osprey
Nah
ruby minnow
It really isn't
ruby minnow
Most of the time it's actually good. Just that rut of 2000-2010 that CGI was just really cheaply done
fresh osprey
And tbh, they said it’s about the character relationships
So there might only be one or two monsters
ruby minnow
Which is what the Witcher Games are mostly about.
ruby minnow
Characters and the world with combat fluffed in here and there.
fresh osprey
I miss Steve Jobs
ruby minnow
Honestly I hope they cover more of the Trial of Grass.
fresh osprey
Trial of Grasses? I hope so
I expect we are one tried and have the person die
Have one
ruby minnow
Since the rumor is that he show picks up where the books leave off, which is where Witcher 2 picks up.
spice goblet
Ok well it might be good but sometimes there's like no effort put into making the cgi stand out
I.e they're all carbon copies of each other in terms of emotion and personality but look different
ruby minnow
that is very true. But most of the time the CGI is well done that it does look life-like. If you aren't stopping yourself from beign sucked in and are specifically looking for the green screen effects
fresh osprey
I don’t think characters will be cgi