#simulate_conversation is bringing none in rag

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ivory tigerBOT
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AI-generated Answer for jvini6832

Short answer: rag_retrieval_info is null when no RAG retrieval occurred on that turn. In simulate_conversation you’ll only see rag_retrieval_info populated if the agent actually retrieved chunks from the knowledge base for that message. The API schema shows rag_retrieval_info includes chunks, embedding_model, retrieval_query, and rag_latency_secs; otherwise it may be null. (elevenlabs.io)

Checklist to make RAG populate in simulate_conversation:

  • Enable RAG for the agent: in the agent’s Knowledge Base settings toggle Use RAG, or enable it via API in the agent config. (elevenlabs.io)
  • Ensure documents are RAG-indexed and eligible:
    • Indexing happens automatically after adding docs when RAG is enabled, but you can trigger/inspect indexing with Compute RAG index and RAG index status endpoints. (elevenlabs.io)
    • Documents smaller than 500 bytes are not indexed (they’re only used in the prompt), so they won’t produce rag_retrieval_info. (elevenlabs.io)
  • Check RAG settings if retrievals are too strict: in Advanced, adjust Maximum document chunks and Maximum vector distance so relevant chunks can be returned. Overly tight settings can yield no retrievals. (elevenlabs.io)
  • Ask a KB-relevant question in the simulation: craft the simulated_user_config prompt (or use partial_conversation_history) so the user’s message clearly targets content in your knowledge base; otherwise RAG won’t trigger and rag_retrieval_info will remain null. (elevenlabs.io)
  • Verify you’re hitting the correct endpoint and inspect the returned turn objects for rag_retrieval_info on the turns where retrieval should occur. (elevenlabs.io)

References:

  • Simulate Conversations guide (example showing rag_retrieval_info: null; Pro Tips) (elevenlabs.io)
  • Simulate conversation API reference (response shape) (elevenlabs.io)
  • Test/Invocations API (explicit rag_retrieval_info fields: chunks, retrieval_query, rag_latency_secs) (elevenlabs.io)
  • RAG docs (enable toggle, indexing behavior, doc size rule, advanced settings) (elevenlabs.io)
  • Compute/inspect RAG index endpoints (elevenlabs.io)

If you’ve done all of the above and rag_retrieval_info is still null, please share the agent_id, an example simulated_user_config prompt, and

quiet tusk
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but, when we test in platoform, always the rag is triggered. Why not in api?