MES - Middle Eastern Structures

[jade herald]

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/662D4D48EBB10146-Modularbits
tiny mod (for now) that you can use to do any size building for your maps . you can read more in mods description i hope you enjoy it and i hope it will be helpfull making some amazing locations on your maps !

there are some stuff that is missing like pillar not having bottom polygon but that piece should always be in the ground or in the connector piece so i hope you dont hate me on that , i plan to do more pieces of diffrent type so you will be able to do stuff like office buildings , shopping malls , more modern factories , maybe airport terminals and skyscrapers .

here i was messing around with some stuff that you can do.

[lilac wave]

This looks great I am excited when map modders add these your their maps even better if u can put it in gm too just in their own category if u get it 🤔 ☺️

[dim smelt]

@remote egret good for the map

[jade herald]

I dont know how to do that for now , maybe in future

[hallow dirge]

The brick texture on the big gates pieces is aligned vertical, this looks wrong to me 🙂

[jade herald]

Ye i know im still beginner ill try to fix it 😂

[autumn mural]

Is this for GM or those making map?

[jade herald]

For mappers for now

[autumn mural]

Okay nice

[jade herald]

still wip but usable

will be more , and better quality , each building i do gets better , this last little house is the last and i think it looks better than tese 4 prevoius ones

[winter spindle]

This looks fantastic

[jade herald]

Thanks there will be fixes and updates since i learned to add these basic object's

Later i will improve them as i learn more

I forgot to put arma terrain core dependency

[jade herald]

Some pics of the map im working on with these models

[left owl]

Looks incredible

[jade herald]

Thank you , its not gonna be soon so dont be hyped for now , on the other hand i will add nore models my plan is to have atleast 30 diffrent models , but who knows maybe even more.

Right now im on a business trip and its on pause for 10 days

[hexed kettle]

Where is this map supposed to be set, looks awesome

[jade herald]

Syria / lebanon and iraq but id say its more afghanistan than iraq because of these hilly regions

When this map is released i wish some server would do authentic syrian conflict in 2014 with zu trucks and t55s and other old vehicles

[jade herald]

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/662D4D48EBB10146-Modularbits added some more stuff

All the buildings i did so far

[pallid elm]

Has anyone made a map with this?

[jade herald]

im not sure , but im making one , there are pictures up in the chat

[jade herald]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[jade herald]

some more

MES - Middle Eastern Structures

i guess it is better to call the mod this way since its only gonna feature buildings for middle east.

i will probably remove the modular parts , also since this will be only middle east , i will do other regions too so the people wont need to download one huge mod just for the map , who knows how big this will be so i will split it into couple mods

[jade herald]

if anyone is making map with this , post it here im very intrested to see how its going

[left owl]

Have you made any updates to yours?

[jade herald]

a little bit

[left owl]

Looks great, cant wait to fight there

[jade herald]

yea me too , but it need alot of work

[jade herald]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[jade herald]

Have to fix this one , it has invisible face that is blocking movement , its so annoying when that happends

[pseudo escarp]

Nice, will use it for Fallujah

Can you make L shapes Buildings like the T shape?

[jade herald]

Sure

Do you have some refrence images?

[jade herald]

redid this building like 8 times .. and finaly got it right

[jade herald]

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/662D4D48EBB10146-MES-MiddleEastStructures Updated the name with those new buildings , one big corner building is empty for now

[pseudo escarp]

No idont have xd but its the same T Shape With L shape version

And will be cool if u add some buildings with gardens inside them, like they are open

[jade herald]

Yea , i probably can just bad no ideas

I updated the mod yesterday im not sure how man buildings there are? Like 17?

@pseudo escarp can you post some pic of map with these buildings?

[pseudo escarp]

Im using some of the buildings in a market area rn

[jade herald]

what yall think if i do some non enterable ones , because if you make a big city with all these enterable fps will not be good at all

[jade herald]

new one

also made this wall as a prop

[craggy ridge]

that wall is tuff

[jade herald]

Ik 😂

Can stop small arms , non destroyable

[jade herald]

add these cable lines

[jade herald]

this or the above one for texture?

[craggy ridge]

babove is better but both would be nice

[jade herald]

I kept it like this on second , but you can in your map change it , all the textures are in modular bits folder , just type .emat

[craggy ridge]

okay do you know when the map will be released?]

[jade herald]

Its not gonna be soon i dont like to give people hope too early , map right now is like 10% done , untill i hit atleast 90% completion it wont be out.
And even then if i feel satisfied with the result on 90% i will see if its good for release or not

Maybe just maybe i could do the raw environment and release than update from then on

[craggy ridge]

okay

[jade herald]

here are some pics but as you can see its very empty

im still not satisfied with amount of buildings i did , i need more buildings like , police station , tv station , airport terminal , hospital ,school , prison and so on

but these type of buildings will require a bit more work since they are gonna be bigger

[jade herald]

this one came out interesting

[craggy ridge]

these look very good

[blissful echo]

these look great, keep up the good work

[pseudo escarp]

Hey brother, can u make a Villa?

[jade herald]

what sort

just give me refrence and ill try

@pseudo escarp

[pseudo escarp]

Smth like this with dome on top of it

[jade herald]

aight ill try this

[pseudo escarp]

Thx

[jade herald]

this willa is huge

i made ultra low detail for distant Lod so it doesent kill fps so much

the best lod has 41.2k faces and 58k vertices witch is not that crazy should be fine for most people , that big building from vanilla has 120k

[jade herald]

the gaps that you can see trough in this building doesent matter since this lod loads when you are far away

let some light in

this building is so huge it can littleraly be its own capture point

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1465059848998879376/1466403030135214091/image.png?ex=697c9dbe&is=697b4c3e&hm=2739112391b5afae68139a16ca6211ce4d700323b5141148aa5ac55d54338e0f&

Did these too

[jade herald]

this is a substation , i made police prefarb but there is also empty one with only doors and windows for custom stuff

[jade herald]

forgot to add door on the roof 😄

[jade herald]

we goin strong 💪

more to come

had one "test" building sitting

so i made her into ruin like the other one

[craggy ridge]

these destroyed buildings are cool

[jade herald]

made these AC props that can be glued on to add detail

only problem is that both sides have same texture i made a mistake but since its only gonna show only one side it aint game breaking , also its like super low detail i think it has 32 polygons on lod 2 and 60-70 on lod0

[pseudo escarp]

Cool man❤️

[signal gazelle]

@jade herald keep it going

[jade herald]

im gonna make another folder in mod with all the buildings that feature only doors and windows and some basic details , w/o furniture , so yall can use it for big cities

[jade herald]

new big Embassy building , empty

[jade herald]

..

[pseudo escarp]

Very nice

[pliant tiger]

Dude holy crap!! I've been hoping for someone like you to make updated structures for arma like jbad in a3. The future of ME maps is looking very bright with this!!

[jade herald]

Dude thank you , i want to create a mod that somewhat reminds people of jbad but with new stuff, all these models are made by me personaly and there will be more

[frail meadow]

How heavily do your buildings effect performance in comparison to Vanilla ent?

[jade herald]

Buildings are jokingly small comparing to vanila , you see this big building above , it has like 15k polygons and if you take a look on that prefabricated apartment from vanila that big one , it has 120k polygons , my models are nothing to crazy , right now they have good enough detail and texture , but im planing to one day work one new textures and it will make them even better , im dont have much expiriance with uv maps and substance painter im hoping i can either learn that or find someone who would put the time and do textures. I also will make all these models have destruction and other little things that standard objects should have , i experimented yesterday with destruction but it needs alot of tweaks since there are diffrent sizes of models so each requires its own destruction ruin model and effect

There are some buldings that i did furniture for but i switched to empty buildings just an exterior and interior doors and windows and details , so people can use it in bigger cities and if you want to have furniture you can just create a prefabs of furnished buildings and thats it

There will be more models of houses and buildings because this amount now is good but its still gonna be repeated alot in building map , so i want to give people veriety to work with

[jade herald]

Try it and tell me your toughts

[pliant tiger]

With all the compounds you're making, I can't wait to try your map!! Imma just say it'll be out maybe towards the end of the year just to be safe?! Doesn't matter if not regardless we gotta wait for it

[jade herald]

Oh you will have a blast , but its not gonna be yet , i wish i can tell you when its gonna be good enought for release but thats not soon

[unique shadow]

How big is the mod?

[jade herald]

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/662D4D48EBB10146-MES-MiddleEastStructures

[jade herald]

New T-shape

can be connected too

[lilac wave]

Can u GM place?

[craggy ridge]

would crash the server

[jade herald]

I didnt yet worked on gm support

[jade herald]

the difference between new and old

[jade herald]

some props . will be more

[jade herald]

can be conected too

[hallow dirge]

All these building looking very cool and atmospheric! Do you think those clothes could be animated, so they move in the wind?

[jade herald]

they probably can but im not that good in modding 😄

[wraith loom]

Cool

[jade herald]

this building can be used for multiple things i named it shop but wit a little bit of work can be made into police station or something else

[tulip depot]

Some of these look very familiar or similar to the ones in Arma 3. I always wondered are you able to convert Arma 3 stuff into Arma reforger?

[jade herald]

they may resemble but i made them all , i take inspiration form squad , project reality and jbad

and also yes , you are able but its not alowed to convert from arma 3 now , i dont know the reason , i just know you are not allowed to do it

[wraith loom]

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TOPG

[valid quartz]

Is there a way to turn off grass? Love the buildings but 1st floor looks like this:
🙁

[jade herald]

Dont put it on grass, put pebbles or dirt where you want to put house

[pliant tiger]

Will you be making any barricade props for environment and fortification purposes ?

[jade herald]

What type?

Give me a picture of what you think

[pliant tiger]

I'll try to find some references, probably like some of the one's in six days when you fortify the interiors

[jade herald]

More to come!

[nocturne delta]

hey @jade herald 👋 , can i open you a dm to ask you something?

[jade herald]

sure

[valid quartz]

If you click the Clutter Occluder in the MeshObject, it auto removes the grass it is placed on. :3

[jade herald]

oh nice

lemme guys see your maps with this mod im very intrested to see how you integrate them and if i can get some inspiration for something new

[valid quartz]

I'm using ScenarioFramework to make missions with your buildings (on existing maps), So please also think about us poor mission makers :D.

We do not have access to terrain tools to remove grass and so on, but your buildings are awesome.

(we can make partial navmesh, so AI can navigate your buildings as well)

[jade herald]

ye , i will see about that navmesh , because collider is very weird , if you put buildingfireview you have good set up , when you shoot at building there are particles coming out of bullet holes , but you cant drive car inside , and the only collider that works for both partciles and vehicles is buildingfireviewNoNavmesh witch makes ai unable to go trouhgt them , im very annoyed buy this , i mean there is a work around if i split model into different groups so the floow where vehicles will be able to move i need to cut that and make it different colider ....

im thinking if i put pavement or concrete blocks on the drivable area , like garages and some other shops

[valid quartz]

As long as the AI do not shoot us over walls, and we do not fall over the floor, your buildings will be awesome. Stationary AI is also deadly. If they cannot go up the stairs from ground level to 5th floor, well. So be it. Still clearing them will be awesome.

[jade herald]

we played yesterday on some server that hosted the new fallujah and it worked normaly , i also played GM and i spawned like 100 bots and they acctualy go inside buildings and hide there , and peek around corners

so its a big trade but i will look into workaround for vehicles

i mean , i really think its still early in arma reforger for everything to be good enought , i mean its already pretty good , much better than arma 3 in some areas , but i just hope they can make a system that will do that envProbe and soundProbe inisde buildings based on model geometry so people wont need to do 2 separate models for that stuff

[valid quartz]

It is pretty good, don't worry, best buildings I have seen. The grass is easily fixable in tools, so it can be done. But I have to make an over-write of every prefab. No biggie, buildings are awesome. And you said Ai works pretty well. It is good in my book.

[jade herald]

ye , every model i do is getting better and better , but there will be the time when im gonna pause with modeling and focuse on doing the components to all the buildings , like that rplcomponent , worldsubscenecomponent and others to make them good and this about the grass that you told me is pretty good info to know , thank you

but anyway back to modeling

[wraith loom]

This is Fier!

[blissful echo]

Don't forget the SmartAction AI components ❤️
https://youtu.be/WQd_TquXpjE

[tulip depot]

I wish some of these are in arma 3. There’s isn’t much high quality stuff it has to offer middle eastern wise

[jade herald]

well there is Jbad

[jade herald]

Maybe in future i dont have that much time to spend on one building

[jade herald]

I mean each building to do this

[wraith loom]

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[left owl]

Looks amazing

[jade herald]

‼️ ‼️ ‼️ there will be major update because yesterday we found a major problem , and i will need you all to replace all old buildings with new , i will show you how to do quick with ease ‼️ ‼️ ‼️

‼️ ‼️ ‼️ basicly damage system was not setup and buildings were not pulling configuration from base template ,
now all of them will pull and destruction will be off for a period of time till i get time to play around that .‼️ ‼️ ‼️

if you know anyone who uses to mod tell them the news , since i cant @ anyone here

All old buildings will stay for a month , so you all have time to replace it before i remove broken ones.

[jade herald]

update out , forgot to add embasssy and 2 ruined construction models will be tomorrow , for now replace all the existing ones with new ones , there is folder "USE_THIS_new_buildings and use objects only from there

i saved a reminder of ones that are missing , will fix that tomorrow , also i need to reconfigure at what distance different LODs load

[coarse jewel]

Which map is this ? Looks very cool

[jade herald]

map im working on

[jade herald]

thoroughly testing reworked buildings

[coarse jewel]

No glazing but if you launch your map it will break numbers because im from the ME and every time someone does a GWOT map it's either Mud huts or skyscrapers. Hats off to you sir 👏🏼

[jade herald]

Well i dont know if i should release at this state i litteraly dont have any playable area right now

All these areas are not complete , maybe if i get 8x8km area playable for conflict gamemode i might release and update map from there

Map is 900sqKm

[coarse jewel]

Don't rush it and don't give an ETA it will put you under pressure, complete the project and always use real life reference without unwanted pressure

[jade herald]

i dont rush anyting because if i do in the end it will not look good

but there will be one suprise soon , in couple days probably 😄

[jade herald]

‼️ ‼️ ‼️this is announcment to everyone , you have to replace all the old buildings with new from the folder "USE_THIS_New_buildings" . the old ones will stay in mod for a month so you all have time to replace all your stuff . ‼️ ‼️ ‼️

‼️ ‼️ ‼️Here is a quick and easy way to replace them ‼️ ‼️ ‼️
you need to select one object and old ones should have either "doorWin" or "empty" or just nothing , they all need to be replaced with ones from the folder "USE_THIS_New_buildings".

these ones on the picture have "WinDoor" thats the new ones , and if you are replacing old ones with new ones they have that on the end you are doing good .

[jade herald]

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/68957914EA45BA6C-ALHadra this is a little surprise !

[coarse jewel]

@jade herald is this only me or is someone else suffering from the same problem

[jade herald]

i had this for what ever reason

try redownloading

litteraly unknown bug

[craggy ridge]

so it dosent works?

[coarse jewel]

Lets just give it a try and don't rush in to conclusions

[craggy ridge]

ima look rn

[jade herald]

its some wierd bug , one guy downloaded it and it worked fine

this is his image he sent me so you see its all good

only wierdness he had is that orange trees but i guess its some mod he has

[coarse jewel]

Oh it's good very realistic layout compared to major ME cities but you should work on Ai navigation and pathfinding because it's very much non existent, very good stuff and keep it coming 👏🏼

[jade herald]

ye go to other page i said there is no navmesh

[coarse jewel]

Why ? Most milsims use Ai in their gameplay, and not to offend you but it simply wouldn't work without navmesh people don't like open fields and urban pvp

[jade herald]

well its made specificly for conflict , so navmesh was not priority

[coarse jewel]

Well it's your stuff but don't forget the navmesh i showed it to my friends and they loved it

[craggy ridge]

@jade herald did you join my server?

[jade herald]

but will be in couple days

[hallow estuary]

So no navmesh yet?

[jade herald]

not yet in couple days

i will do it

[hallow estuary]

Got it, thanks for the response 🫡

[jade herald]

Syrian? I think i did idk

[craggy ridge]

yes but will you be adding persistence for the map so it saves?

[jade herald]

Will have to see into that , i played around in gm and i had saves every couple minutes

Its first iteration , ill fix and add whats missing i upcoming updates

[craggy ridge]

okay thanks

[pliant tiger]

so will you and alosh make a map together in the future? I feel like diamonds would be formed if that were to happen

[jade herald]

Ye we help eac other , i havent mapped with him but i give him advice and he gives me

He have a small group of people who he works with on new fallujah and its gonna bi very good

[safe elm]

map name?

[wraith loom]

AL Hadra

[lilac wave]

This looks great man

[hallow dirge]

just had a first look at your terrain. Looking very good. Especially like the River!

[hallow estuary]

Venow do you have more small maps like Al Hadra planned?

I love the detail and the prefabs you have made

[jade herald]

i do

[hallow estuary]

Ill leave it at that i wont ask anymore questions lol. I want to be surprised 😂

[jade herald]

Im gonna start MES part 2 , since this one is ~500mb, i think in part 2 i can do even more stuff because i dont have to make new textures in it and can just pull from part one

[pliant tiger]

Not really important to me, but will any of these new compounds come furnished in the long run?
I would understand if not, it just means GM would have to build it and pray the server doesn't restart with all the progress they put in

[jade herald]

no furniture , people can make compositions with furniture easy

i put some basic stuff on , nothing too crazy

[jade herald]

im making Part 2 of MES so we have 2 mods to save size , i think i can fit more objects into this one since its not gonna include textures as part 1

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/68A2C605FC3B76A6-MES-MiddleEastStructures2

[jade herald]

there is a problem with missing textures on this part 2 , i forgot to update MES1

[jade herald]

Part 2

updated with this new stuff

[wraith loom]

Damm

[uneven dawn]

Whats in MES2 compared to just MES, is it worth using currently? @jade herald

[jade herald]

Its going to be part 2 of the structures

Im gonna keep the mods at 500mb , but part 2 will have more stuff since its not gonna feature textures like in part 1

[uneven dawn]

The railing on this building is bulletproof

[jade herald]

damn thats wierd lmao

[vital charm]

dude i gotta ask @jade herald where are you from ?

[jade herald]

new blender update broke the enfusion plugin , i dont know when its gonna be fixed or is it going to be fixed , until then these mods are on standby

[slow breach]

Why not just set blender to a lower version build? i keep mine on 4.2 official supported version for the plugin