Simple Female Uniforms / Head / Hair

[rich edge]

So some people have been asking for a stand alone version of Darkgru's GI Jane so I made a simple pack containing some uniforms sculpted to have a more feminine figure. At the moment it includes one head and a couple of hair options.
I plan to add more stuff to it as I find the time to do it like civilian clothing (cold war and modern), ideally more heads, hairs and other uniform options.

This is really a very simple mod, it's literally just a chopped head that hides the base game head and I haven't even gotten around to properly weight paint the different face bones, but it gets the job done.

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/647B32B1810EEDC4-DarkgruFemaleOperators

[plush smelt]

Nice mod

[true vine]

Thank you so much

[fleet cliff]

Oh that awesome! 😄👍👍

[dreamy axle]

Yes

[fleet cliff]

Does the body change to female or randomly change body from male and female character like ToH characters? 🤔

[rich edge]

They're just sculpted uniforms, nothing is automatic here.. so it's basically just putting on pieces of gear. I don't have the brains to do what other geniuses here do... But the good thing is that the uniforms need to be made regardless.

[fleet cliff]

Ooooh! Still look awesome tho 😄👍👍

[dreamy axle]

Were gonna need more body models to remake dayz in reforger

[restive canopy]

So where the female mod and is an optional thing at the respawn screen to choose male and female

[vernal delta]

I Love!
Thank you Elisa!

[peak osprey]

Looks really cool!

[paper condor]

Nicely done. Made a newsitem about it on https://www.arma4base.com

[rich edge]

Dunno, that's for the smart people in here lol

[white garden]

This is great Elisa, but you should respect the maximum head sizes recommended by Reforger. There is a file called HeadSize_Template.fbx that you can use to correct your head to make it more compatible with caps and helmets.
https://github.com/BohemiaInteractive/Arma-Reforger-Samples/blob/main/SampleMod_NewCharacter/Assets/Characters/SampleCharacter/HeadSize_Template.fbx

[rich edge]

Thanks Jove, I might actually make slightly deflated versions of the head so they fit better with base game hats. Wasn't a problem until now since I made this to be compatible with the stuff we use in darkgru but since this is standalone it makes more sense now.

[white garden]

Well @rich edge, I confess I was trying it on and I liked what I saw, but when I tried on the clothes and hair I realized that you weren't following the limits that Reforger sets.
You know, deep down I'm interested in the compatibility of our models.
For the clothes it's a similar thing, because for example if you dress the shirt, a piece of the waist disappears and it becomes transparent.
My recommendation is just to sculpt those parts a little bit and then everything will fit with everybody, it will look nice mixed with RHS clothes and others.

Let's say that these blue lines are the parts of the body that are made invisible... so you must adjust your models to these parts if you are going to hide them.
For example the boots or the shirt.
And on your trousers, the waistband is a bit wide and wide even for the men's model.
If you adjust all this more to the format that Reforger proposes (you can do it simply by using the sculpt in X symmetry to move and adjust everything) you will gain a lot of compatibility.

Thanks and sorry for my “speech”...

[rich edge]

I see what you're saying and it's something I tried to do at a certain point (which is the body I think Zelik still has but I'm not sure). So your feedback is greatly appreciated. No need to apologise for the long text haha.

In this very case, we could say this is just a "female clothing" pack and not a female body model. In the future when I add more things to it, the reforger body will be literally hidden and replaced with sliced pieces of the female body I'm using as reference.

In this pic for example, the base body is not being used except for the lower arm portion. The pants hide the corresponding base model parts and the top hides everything but the lower arms, hands get hidden by the gloves. And I plan to do the same for things like tops that "show some female skin".

It's basically a workaround and not really a final solution for the main problem.

Same thing will happen for this for example. Goth girl outfit being a meme/old proof of concept

[white garden]

that's a great idea, although it has a problem, and that is the skin color. maybe if you use the name of the body material, the body will get the color of that part, although not being the standard body either, anything could happen.

[rich edge]

You are right on that one. Normally I don't face that issue since if I get a non matching skin I just reload the kit in Bacon Loadout Editor, but indeed, I have to give some thought about people who want to use it without it.

[white garden]

I have ergonomics problems of this kind every day when I open Blender... hahaha. 😉

[rich edge]

By the way, I'm not disregarding anything of what you're saying. I think what you propose is the professional way of doing it. I'm just hitting the problem from a more simple approach. This is literally what got me into modding lol.. you have no idea how much I've learnt just by messing with the stupid female model idea.

[white garden]

Just a detail and I won't bother you any more...
The _NMO, you are doing them one point wrong. The Red and green channel is the NORMAMAP, the BLUE is the METALLIC and the alpha OCCUSSION.
Normally you will see that the _NMO textures have a yellow color, and it is because the blue is normally black, few metallic details on a body or clothing.
You should check that in your _NMO.

[rich edge]

A head size comparison with the base character sample btw.

[white garden]

I applaud that, this modding thing is personal growth and even more addictive than the game itself.
You are doing a great job. 🫡

[rich edge]

Do you mind if I pick your brain in DM's about this? Getting the right channels in export from substance painter is something I've been struggling with a bit.

[white garden]

of course whenever you want...

[rich edge]

haha for real... I have like 600 hours in enfusion (not counting the blender side) and another 600 in the game itself

[white garden]

I think your head is oversized by using it as an object and not as part of the body. Because if that comparison were correct, your head would fit the hats.

[white garden]

You don't know how I understand you... And more being one of mine, not many people are interested in creating “heads”.

[fleet cliff]

It perfect! 😄👍👍

[fleet cliff]

I used the US armed forces mods it fit well!

[rich edge]

has anyone tried it with RHS? I don't think the helmets should be an issue at least... and the head is just that lol.

[dreamy axle]

Has anyone thought of making a normal civilian clothing mod

[fleet cliff]

I might give it a try when I get home from shopping 😄👍👍

I'm pretty sure it will work with uppercut mods too! 😁

[fleet cliff]

Yup it works well with the RHS status quo too!

[rich edge]

I love Vergy's clothing so much lol.
Okay so I might need to add some boonies and stuff that are sized a bit bigger and not clip like the base game ones.

[fleet cliff]

Aye awesome, can't wait to see more later! And more female heads too!

[pure cedar]

@outer brook after all those years, why it is not a vanila standart? 🙂

[outer brook]

After all those years, you should know not to ping Devs. It's 1am here.

It's not in vanilla because in Reforger we had bigger problems to solve. I'm also not so sure if keeping female body mesh with same size and proportion as male one is good idea. Yes, it allows reusing clothes which is big saving but it is probably not the quality we'd like to have in vanilla.

[pure cedar]

oh sorry for the ping dude! was not thinking that the ping will ya hitting in your after worktime - i was thinking you will see that in the office. no bad intentions ya! :) in future i use @devs again. 🖖

secondly thx for the reply! what bigger problems, rolls well for now from my viewside here. ;) But jeah okay i got your point! i also understood or let me say i believe that the needed focus on quality you and we all would like to have in vanilla is time consuming aspect of it - but is that hard to build it? okay extra clothes and stuff, but i would think the arma female ultra fanbase would hype and deserve it! :) <3

ah and with "..after all those years.." i mean the whole arma series. no front. ;)

[rich edge]

Yeah it would basically mean developing a whole line up of clothing meshes and what not. I can't model clothes for shit (for now at least) so I just make do with some sculpting which is not ideal, but really adding female bodies entails a lot of work.

[fleet cliff]

Keep up the great work on modding!! 😄👍👍

[pure cedar]

you tried a thing that the devs not even publicly touched! great work! sad that you had to mod it, thx for the work!! ❤️

[fleet cliff]

I tried your female head mods with the uppercut mods and it fit well! Except I have to use the US arsenal since there none for uppercut atm

[noble gulch]

We do have UNSC Arsenals

[fleet cliff]

I mean for that female head mod

[rich edge]

Finally settled in Tokyo so I can get back to this.
Still a lot of work ahead but I'm working on some civvy fits. Most likely won't be customizable at first because matching them, fixing clipping and stuff is a royal pain in the ass. But they will probably suffice for people who want to have female NPCs moving around. These clothes will also eventually work if I ever move on to a more advanced body.

Since they will most likely clip with vests, I'll probz give them enough carry capacity for a couple of mags and light items but that's going to be part of the enfusion part of the work which I'm not looking forward to lol

I'll also add another head and a couple of hair options. Might ever retexture some stuff too. Who knows... I am kind of excited now that I finally figured how to bring Marvelous Designer models down to a usable in-game tri count.

[fleet cliff]

Oooh that pretty awesome!! And how Tokyo is like? 😄👍👍

[white garden]

They look great, beautiful work.
Remember, Elisa, you can also use the _deflated (the model changes when wearing a garment over it) model options when wearing vests.

[rich edge]

Thank you Jove! And yes, I know but doing it is a pain and I don't have the time for it right now haha. So I'll be slowly iterating towards it!

[rich edge]

I have been too tired and busy with scuool to actually enjoy it properly. But soon! Haha

[white garden]

Clever girl
I wish you luck in Japan and a great time! Thank you for your great contribution to the community. 🫡🇯🇵

[fleet cliff]

Awesome! Hopefully you will get the chance to enjoy everything! 😄👍👍

[void fjord]

Hi All, I've been trying to implement this for the ladies in our community as a base character but there is no basebody, am i missing something? is there a way to archieve what I am trying?

[fleet cliff]

There no female body for it I think

[void fjord]

ahh thats a pity, thank you for the quick answer

[fleet cliff]

You welcome but I might be wrong

[rich edge]

As Nicktolin said, there is no base body

Even if there was one, clothes would still need to be made for it. I have a full civvy clothing backlog but I just haven't had the time at all to do it.

[fleet cliff]

One day maybe? 🤔

[steady cipher]

I know this is strictly for women outfits. Are you ever interested in making male civilian outfits?

[rich edge]

I would, however, everything in reforger (and other games) is tailored to male stuff. It's really a matter of weight painting and re-rigging.

Reality is, there are several offerings already with that target in mind. If you're aiming for something else just let me know.

[steady cipher]

Okay I completely understand. Makes civilian outfits are rare as well

[white garden]

Military clothing is often similar to men's clothing when worn by a woman... It is a question of standard design that does not have much in mind the aesthetics.

[void fjord]

While the body rigging improves looks, it isn't always necessary to archieve reasonable female characters. A little less curves should fit the default kit.

[rich edge]

Fitting to the existing kit it's not really a problem.. that can be solved by using deflated models. Is it a bit of a pain? yeah definitely...
Are curves necessary? Not really... but I don't have the brain power to make a slightly smaller character, and most of the female users of the pack actually appreciate the curves (some have even asked for more lmao).

[fathom jolt]

Is there a reason why we can't put any items inside the uniforms?

[snow dune]

Teedees

That’s why

[rich edge]

That would be a me problem. I based the prefabs off vanilla game clothing so I'm not sure... I thought they had some storage space. I'll look into it and fix it if needed.

[rich edge]

Fixed capacity @fathom jolt Thanks for the headsup. I think it should be good enough

[fathom jolt]

Will test later on, thank you!

[terse harbor]

Any estimate on when these outfits will be released? NW

[rich edge]

I have 2 in engine but I'm working on a few weight painting issues which I don't like... Plus the retopo is not quite there yet. I'll do it eventually lol..

[terse harbor]

Oh nice, my wife loves playing Reforger and she even acts as GM in certain missions. She really loved your work — congrats!

[fleet cliff]

Done this this morning

[haughty lintel]

could you please possibly make or let me make it for you and u can upload it 👉 👈 its a camo from alien or maybe a jsdf camo like jentia regardless thxs for the stuff u do add ❤️

[fleet cliff]

That looks very similar to AUSCAM

[rich edge]

Maybe one day... tbh I haven't had any time to do anything whatsoever. I added a couple of crop tops that I made for fun some time ago, which lots of people begged me for them.
But aside from that I plan to make something more universal with the limited time I have. Retexturing it's not a big deal since I have all the ID maps for the assets I'm using but the short list I want to focus once I find some time would be:

• Civvy outfits (at least 4)
• Expand hair options (at least 2 more)
• Expand head options (ideally black and asian).
• Add a generic Russian uniform in a couple of color variations (I have a gorka that I need to retopo and retexture).

I'm just swamped though...

[fleet cliff]

Awesome!

[haughty lintel]

thats dope take your time if u need helpie i can always helps