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solid gazelle
- and 3. are clear and reason alone for us to take action (which we will). About 1.: What part of RHS is being re-uploaded in part of in whole that violates your rights?
tardy ivy
Not reuploaded but used.
This mod uses RHS patch system as base, which makes it a derivative content
solid gazelle
Also: This workshop item was not reported in-game was it (just checking for sanity)? The author is already banned from uploading. FYI
tardy ivy
nope, i wasn't able to report it ingame, because i couldnt find it in ingame WS
because, as i mentioned, uploaded as unlisted
solid gazelle
Oh, it is unlisted yeah, only works if you know the GUID 🙂
tardy ivy
ngl, entire idea of unlisted mods is what makes such stuff possible
solid gazelle
At the same time unlisted mods have virtually no reach (unless used on a popular server which publicly lists it by proxy so to speak). The mod has less than 90 downloads total. So there is also little damage done.
tardy ivy
well, because it was reuploaded literally 4 days ago :)
90 downloads for an unlisted mod in 4 days sounds like a fairly big number for me
solid gazelle
This mod uses RHS patch system as base, which makes it a derivative content
Ok, the way my question was stated was quite specific. Referencing it as dependency, while not re-uploading any of the referenced mods contents in parts or in whole is from a legal standpoint not a derivative. So that alone, even if you have an ND clause in your mod would not prevent them from also loading it on their setup this way. It will be explained in our upcoming blog post.
I explain that, because if you reported other mods for just that reason and expected action, it would not happen. We understand that mod authors do not want their content used in offensive/illegal scenarios, which is why on that aspect we aid enforcement.
I'll check with Mario how we deal with this and perhaps other uploads by the user, so it will be gone as soon as he could have a look.
tardy ivy
IIRC when mr @novel mason did his research last time, both inherit and override were counted as derivative contents
in any case, this mod violates multiple points from our part about derivative content. Altho i dont remember exact rules and pipelines for dealing with these violations
tardy ivy
in any case, this mod violates multiple points from our part about derivative co...
basically all of them at the same time, kek
solid gazelle
It only is if the resulting work contains significant portions of copyright-able material from which the original source could be identified. Scripts, configs have to be blatant copies to be one (as an extreme: re-uploading the whole file and only changing a few letters). Textures, models and sounds are also likely always a derivative, because its hard to create anything related to the original without also it being contained in the end result.
tardy ivy
well, if it uses our script as base, pretty much sure this makes it derivative
but rather than discussing it here, would be cool to have a link that points on methods and once again rules about dealing with it from BI
solid gazelle
Yeah I have no intend to discuss it. The blogpost is in legal department clearing, which is mostly done. it will explain it. I mention it now, because if you are hunting for violations in the mean time, you should know what to report and what we would not act on anyway.
quasi wraith
This was already banned 2 days ago