#MANW: Steel Rain 1924

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strange ridge
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New year. New thread.

About: Steel Rain is a WIP total conversion mod for ARMA Reforger - now competing for MANW.

It borrows strong gameplay elements and direction from the top down MMO Foxhole, but retools them for the first person perspective and the strengths, scope and scale of Reforger/ARMA 4.

We would love your feedback and thoughts as the project moves along. Public support helps keep us motivated. 😊

Main Links:
Our old development thread can be found here https://discord.com/channels/105462288051380224/1277604415813193749
Design Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13p3aOpRuJ4XrF7Kd7GaAJ1oIO2DYR5Aind0qVAlW_Qc/edit
Asset List: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qPFVjB4z9QYX1kBla_VO_7OcNY58Mqxitcy7BKp_i-A/edit
Master Idea List: https://github.com/orgs/Citizen-Group/projects/15

Join our discord for day to day updates https://discord.gg/Xgwf5XKK4y

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haughty summit
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Will have 2 mods ?, 1924 and 1942 ?

strange ridge
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MANW: Steel Rain 1924

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Good catch. Failed multi-tasking.
Image dump begins below of highlights from our first 6 months.

grave sentinel
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Now this looks sick

strange ridge
oak vault
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I can't wait for trucks

warped tinsel
odd rose
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This is peak

sinful herald
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own models or from foxhole?

rose cobalt
sinful herald
rose cobalt
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Own Models

strange ridge
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Nothing's coming from Foxhole, except for ideas. Else I would be looking at a lawsuit.

rose cobalt
grave sentinel
strange ridge
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Yeah, that's something we're trying to balance. Obviously we're leaning way more to realism than Foxhole is, but at the same time trying to make it more of a video game - which means distortion and amplification.

But I'm more focused on dedicated colour and silhouettes then oversized parts.

strange ridge
grave sentinel
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Looking very cool 👍🏻

strange ridge
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Baby steps. Ever forward until dawn.

wicked violet
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This looks awesome wishing you all the best

strange ridge
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Thanks. Hopefully some skilled scripters come my way and we can accelerate. Right now my (Reforger Coding) skill level is setting the speed, which isn't fast 😛

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For those interested in the behind the scenes, this is a peak at the complexity of the base building I'm working on at the moment: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lq7yfJbMExnR2kGBT6iqKr-S8FheDUOuTADQXXblwXo/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs
Steel Rain - Building

Building This document is a WIP to help document and breakdown the complexity of a base building system. Better details on building gameplay can be found in ; the focus here is development. This document has drawings that are only visible in light mode. Overview Defenses and bases are needed to...

fossil trellis
strange ridge
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Video is workbench, the game will be MP only.

fossil trellis
strange ridge
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Are you using a custom map? because you need to setup a ton of things me thinks - This is conflict arland, so most of the mess is already set for me.

fossil trellis
strange ridge
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Bulit into workbench/the game, yep

fossil trellis
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man someone really needs to make a tut on how to add buildable compostions lmao

strange ridge
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Its not to hard. Don't feel like typing it all up atm. But you need to make the object, link it in a "outline" config file, and edit another config file to display it in the list.

fossil trellis
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freeroambuilding?

strange ridge
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Faction based Ent List of what is displayed in thier freeroam.

fossil trellis
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is there a bohemia wiki tut on this?

strange ridge
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Unknown. I just figured all this out by brute force.
The only other thing that needs updating is the game module that exists for the campaign map. It will have to be updated to use your modified config.

fossil trellis
strange ridge
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There's only two major entities, You got to look at the hierarchy of the stuff that's in your game world. And then it'll be a component in that big one. I'm away from my computer for the night.

strange ridge
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A lil infographic on map wording

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cinder hazel
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Foxhole Arma Reforger, fascinating

strange ridge
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ARMHOLE Reforged. Getting there day by day.

grave sentinel
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‘Armhole’ sound kinda like an arma specific insult to me for some reason

cinder hazel
strange ridge
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First look 👀: COL Bi-Plane fighter. The Sophi.

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oak vault
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HEY ARMHOLE! (Directed at nobody)

fathom citrus
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I’m gonna be a rat in that

strange ridge
prime hamlet
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That's very interesting!! Have you considered some MOBA elements? I think they have many concepts that could apply to a conflict style game mode. Like main battle lanes, secondary missions in between (jungle) and the character progression along the match.
It doesn't look like your're going that path, but there might be some elements you could benefit from.
Best of luck!

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How long do you plan for each match to take?

strange ridge
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A neat thought regardless. Generally the way the battles play out in Foxhole, Is that there's an established front, and then you have about three pathways at "roadblock"/choke point (which just leads to another choke point or roadblock)

Eventually you have to slam into one of these blocks, but once you break that block then you get to choose if you're going to go left right or middle. Momentum, morale and impetus is super important, and being able to keep up the logistical grind determines the conflict more than anything.

Psychologically it is traumatizing to fight in the same 12 in of ground for 8 plus hours - but if you can do it, the battle can be yours to win.

With a more open map like Reforger has with Everon, People can just go around obstacles - It's the same problem they had in World War II with Mobile warfare. Anyone that's static... You just drive around them, isolate them, and move on.

So going back to the original point, there's kind of like lanes. There's the main fight. Then there's these side fights (partisans, deep recon) and then there's the back line, keeping it all together, rest and non-combat "lane"

Suffice to say they'll be something for everyone. I just hope we can get this mod out before we all die of old age 😁

prime hamlet
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I used to play Foxhole a lot

fathom citrus
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Will there be cheese props?

fathom citrus
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But in all seriousness will you add bolt action guns??

prime hamlet
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Can't wait to scroop in Reforger xD

strange ridge
strange ridge
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@prime hamlet:

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strange ridge
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Cloud Surfing!

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warped tinsel
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Are you doing real ww1 afterall? Hence iron cross

lament ore
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@fast jasper

strange ridge
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Just getting objects in and prototyped before we put any polish and details.

fossil trellis
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Who models these things, everything looks awesome!

dense furnace
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foxhole arma? nice

strange ridge
naive peak
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@strange ridge Curious why the 1924 theme? The way I see it, the value of this mod will come from the gameplay/code. Setting it 100 years ago gives you 100x more work for little added value compared with keeping the Reforger art/setting.

strange ridge
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Reforger is a FPS at heart, we could reskin everything in a few months and it could be pretty much every time period including future space.

You are correct that the value comes from the code. The art and the setting, while considerable effort is required, isn't the most time consuming part - at least when it comes to putting it in game. I don't expect that we have to do too much work to make it feel like World War I.

That said, to get to your question of why, It's because it's a simpler era. In a real modern combat we're hosing each other at almost kilometer ranges. Video games however fake it, and push us down to super small draw distances (<800m) and thus engagement ranges. When in reality we can see well over 50 km.

So by having simpler weapons, and simpler times, It fits more naturally the closer engagement ranges. It makes them more human-centric, infantry centric combat as well

turbid idol
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I am definitely gonna be following this mod, I have been asking for WW1/Interwar Refrogger for like two years

Also, FOXHOLE MENTIONED RAAAAAAAHHHHH

void forge
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Lovely to see the progress MANW is making

strange ridge
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Thanks. Base buildings is going to be the hardest challenge yet. But we're making progress on all fronts.

strange ridge
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Small update: Armoured Cars have been started. 3D team is still cooking while scripting tries to break the building code. Building code will bend the knee eventually.

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grave sentinel
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Is there anything you’re allowed to share on the infantry weapons that will be featured?