#This is being cooked up
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whats the point of making yet another vehicle that will not get the same level of attention as vanilla vehicles do? why not help strider with interiors for his tanks, darkgru seem to use them a lot
I dont think i understand what you mean?
We are not obligated to help strider
we are switching to a 100% DarkGru mod list we will be replacinng striders Vics on our servers
Well. Gonna hope this vehicle will get full interior just like vanilla
Maybe
Its alot of work for our 3D modelers
just dont see a point for yet another reskin of m1
any difference except model? Not really
Let them make what they wanna make, who cares lol
Is this just a reskin
And are you guys gonna make more Russian stuff
For those guys
what obligation do they or anyone have to help other ppl with their work? and callin it a reskin is kinda crazy is the RHS tank a reskin but with some modifications for an interior? why didnt you guys help with the striders interior
dont want to start drama. but will asnwer with: we're busy with actually finishing our own stuff
No offense but I don’t care what you and your entire dev team of 10+ years is doing. We’re happy doing what we’re doing with our couple guys. That are doing this for fun for our community. No need to try to come in here and assume we won’t do this or that.
just to specify, im not trying to say "dont do that". Its always up to you. What im trying to say here is, lots of people would be happier if they get less content, but that content is more detailed
Well the alternative is a 4GB mod and growing that we simply don’t use much out of. So we have to do what we think is best your more than welcome to critique but let us actually make it first
dude came into this thread to get a reaction out of you just ignore the trolls
tank looks dope
Thanks man!
never understood the argument "its just a reskin" that would mean all of the content on the workshop is "reskins"
The community would love your Night Vision system being separated from the rest of your mod.
And your vehicles.
from my knowledge the T14 didnt have an interior for months
"game ready" my ass 
Sadly it is. 90% of mods use 3MDA assets lmao.
99% of things are technically "reskins". My M4 is a reskin of an M16. RHS AK74N is a reskin of the AK74. And it's fine. Nothing wrong with that. Dog water complaint.
Technically they are not unless everyone is using the same exact model. You can have 20 different JPCs but if measurements are different among the models then its not a reskin.
So, dog water rebuttal
M4 is not an M16. Same platform but how can you call them the same? They are not.
and yet toxic called a completely different tank from a different country a reskin of the american abrams
Yeah bro posted an M1 model didn't they
Haven't seen that version of an M1 before but I am not a military guy
Leopard 2A 
M12A
I'm an expert and it looks like an Abrams to me, trust me
Marksman pulled a pro Hollywood move to make a Leopard using the body of a Abrams
It's a nice Abrams model bro
if he puts on some ERA itll become a t72
Call it Abrams as a joke
Abrams Reskin v1.32™️
I believe the presumption toxic made was that it'd just be a reskinning of the Abrams into a Leo2a7 which I wanna say that may not be what happens but alotta vehicle mods atleast from my eyes as just some guy are basically just random vanilla vehicles with a different skin
I am not saying all of them are, I'm saying there are more vehicles out there using models of other vehicles but functioning like vanilla ones, such as "black hawks" with the exact same speed and feel of the UH-1H
It has nothing to do with it being a reskin or not. Bro just jumped on the easiest/closest opportunity to be unsupportive.
I'm not sure that was the intention
I hope not. Looks like it was, perhaps unintentional.
I think toxic's point was that what would be better than 300 ok-ish mods with minimal real details there were like 30-ish mods with fully done interiors and details
Im not even backing toxic up in any way. Being Canadian im excited to see a Leopard 2A in game. I was just talking about retextures and models oversaturating this workshop in general.
Oh is that the Canadian Leo? I thought it was a 2a6 or 7
Leopard in general
My fav tank
Ok but why would you assume that something someone posts will automatically not be a quality mod? Like, how do you know?
Like why is this topic even a thing? Someone was excited to post something they are working on, I am happy to see it and I want them to see it through, no complaints from me at all
Me personally it'd be cool but I feel like one day all of these mods of tracked things are gonna be raptured the same way all the redline helos did
If not then sweet
Either way I doubt the goal was argument
Seems like people are too ready to argue these days
Then again I've only been in the arma community for two years now so maybe it was always like this
I’m basing it off the 2A6M
But there is basically no difference between that and the others
Besides some exterior things
Ain't the gun different between the 2A4 and later variants? Or did I hear wrong
Yea I meant the 2a6 models
2a4 to 2a5/6 are basically an entire different tank
The difference between the 2a5 to 6 is the gun
And some interior things
How does anyone find the time to finish a mod of same quality as a vanilla vehicle?
Consider if you have the skills in modelling, sound, animation, design etc, it might take 8 to 10 weeks full time work with an efficient workflow.
Probably took BI longer than that, and would take modders many hours more.
If a kidder has the same skill level as the BI employee they could probably do it faster. Modders have the privilege of working longer hours if they have the time.
I guess it happens sometimes, but that kid is soon likely to use those skills to start a business and/or get a job in the field, and then not have the time for mod making.
Having the benefit of a whole mod team with years of experience. Most my guys have like jobs and stuff so it’s hard to fully dedicate. But I mean it’s no secret they have guys with experience or they just pick up any modder that can like Vergy/ or punky etc.
How to find time? Do not start new thing before previous one is finished
you are right
show me some fully detailed and fully finished vehicles with working interior
except for strider vehicles
Doesn’t rhs have fully detail vehicles
T14
Bumerang to
so
the only good detailed vehicles is rhs
thats why im agree with toxic
Ohh and some of Aussie stuff to
The K-17 Bumerang is above & beyond any of the default vehicles. Many more features. I would love to see more like it.
It’s not just RHS that wants to make detailed assets, I have yet to even finish the model so before you start pointing fingers and saying things wait for the model and scripting to be done.
You guys assume that it’s only RHS that wants to make high quality things.
A or m?
M i believe
RHS does have the most detailed and functional vehicle in the game currently. But that should not be mistaken for what the community is capable of.
Literally nobody else in the community right now is capable of animating get in animations and scripting fully functional MFD's. Any sort of expectation of that level of quality when Bohemia doesn't even supply it is beyond reasonable.
If that's the argument being made. That's a huge ego trip.
Don't get me wrong I don't get out and talk to other modders much. I carry this stink around from the neanderthalic hate train "DARKGRU bad" which makes that difficult at times. But at most unless I'm speaking to Bacon I have yet to meet anyone outside of the RHS team who understands the Enfusion Engine and has the skill necessary to do things like this. (haven't met redline or space strider)
Most vics are striders, so what’s the plan then?
Or do you mean once you remake all of the vics you’ll put them on darkgru?
Make our own
Even if it seems redundant to do so
Like the Mi28 and abrams and bmps (in due time)
We cannot as a community of over 13k rely on modders that may not align with the same vision we have
If striders vics break tomorrow (hypothetical) we will be screwed and 13,000 players will be screwed
If everything is made by us they we don't have to rely on someone else
If something is broke we can go fix it immediately
Same with balance
Striders vics are not made well for PvP
There are alot of inconsistencys
I’ve had lots of issues with striders vics, I’m glad that there will be an alternative.
My brother in christ, im gonna place a bet that you wont be able to maintain all these vics, or even remake them from scratch
Also there is less then 9k total online in reforger, what 13k are you talking about
The 13k in our discord
And what makes you think that
Why does a mod team that's so well known and liked for thier stuff have to come over to me and talk smack
Please go find something else productive to do than worry what im doing
Whole lotta questions from a mod house, that isn't usually very good at been receptive to questions.
Why don't you create a modular version of Status Quo so people can download what they want rather than a load of bloat that maybe deemed unnecessary?
As a consumer of both mods, helping each other leads to better results for all.
Tribalism holds back all modders.
Especially on such a small project in the grand scheme of gaming, milsim's and modding, such as Reforger.
Why don't RHS help Stryder with his interiors?
Tfw the guy that models stryders vics is modeling DARKGRU vics rn
Excuse me we are not allowed to make money per BI TOS using there game.
no one is
So what do you reckon is the timeframe on getting your night vision system split off into a separate mod?
I like how toxic came over and voiced their own opinion and people decide to come in and air out their grievances with the whole of RHS
Never, we want our mod to be bigger then reserved xbox space, so no xbox users can download it.
What is timeline for actually getting something useful for community besides creating drama and making another copy of already existing mod? :)
I'm confused. So why are you touting about helping the community if you aren't interested in doing it yourself?
Because we have different views about making community better
And your views is isolating your mod so people are forced to use your entire mod if they want any part of your work despite systems like your night vision becoming a necessary staple
Your backhanded comment falls on its face here bud. If we have different views then that was childish and completely ridiculous. I truthfully have nothing but positive things to say about the work RHS does. I find it ridiculous you take the work you do and lock it to a growing mod that is already at a point where if you want a stable 128p server you're truthfully limited to about 2.5g of additional space.
But you keep being childish and disconnected from what the community asks for. I'll keep playing the game and listening to that to come back here and ask for the night vision to be split off.
Well, how come that on biggest community servers i see 50% of the people using only rhs stuff?
Also how come that we host full server every weekend with rhs and experience no problems?
Maybe you are the one who s wrong there? What if your opinion is wrong and not mine? We can play this game both sides
Ignoring what the community has been begging for you to do for 8 months is kinda silly man.
You are disconnected.
Begging? I dunno, havent seen any
You're stating you want to help the community while simultaneously ignoring what they've been saying.
But what turns out at the end? The most complicated mod in AR thats also one of the most stable ones?
Truly a miracle
Your mod has held our server offline at least 12 times this year.
It was definitely yours. You patched it out.
Thats the point. We patched it.
I don't understand why you are being so hostile and childish. I asked you when you plan on separating your night vision and you slap back that you hate Xbox players.
Feel like i derailed this thread a lil bit. Gonna go offline before i get bonked on head by a mod
I respect your opinion, but personally i find it wronf
You obviously don't otherwise you wouldn't have had a tantrum but you do you.
Lol, no Xbox users would kill AR.
Just seen this on reddit their right these guys are assholes😂
What a silly argument
I thought we were supposed to stay on topic about the mod at hand isn’t that what they preach all the time. Because this was way off topic lol
It's not 'preached' it's in the server rules
