#KA-52 Alligator

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undone jay
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Much of a better model to work with this time lol

cyan knot
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Amazing 🤩

cyan knot
cyan knot
undone jay
cyan knot
hexed roost
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W

undone jay
cyan knot
gritty ridge
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Starting off 2024 great

undone jay
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Must feed the community more helicopters

hexed roost
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All im saying, it has a camera and a co pilot seat, u could work with BGONE mod developer to make it so the camera can lock into targets and fire the lock on missiles, or switch to tow missiles

undone jay
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Eh maybe

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But missile in general are no go right now however mortar bullets seems to do a better job atm

undone jay
# cyan knot So how are you going to do the double blade?

So the way I’ve devised it is I didn’t sleep at all last night trying to figure out how I could l potentially use the tail rotor to act as a main rotor however the vanilla base game does not support having 2 main rotors on its own and it breaks so we work with what we have

gritty ridge
hardy apex
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What weapon systems will this have?

astral hatch
soft temple
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south kernel
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That is fire af

undone jay
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Me and mortalis have been in calls together the last week working on both our projects he’s mentioned in my contributions

soft temple
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Is this helo a shared project?

undone jay
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He’s working on something completely different.

glacial meadow
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Alligator

cunning patrol
undone jay
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Get ready for my new preview soon

magic cairn
undone jay
cyan knot
cunning patrol
soft temple
# undone jay

Did you already adjust the speed, since it's an attack helicopter?

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not slower than a mi-8 right T_T

undone jay
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Only goes 321kmh however it’s all around more versitile compared to others

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Apache goes 293 so take in consideration that yknow

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I retract my statement

soft temple
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oh, I'm all for it then; sorry for lack of knowledge

undone jay
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It’s actually quite fast surprisingly thing weights a bit though but yeah I’ll up its speed

soft temple
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Im pumped for some new hardware

opaque stratus
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My favourite helicopter finally coming to arma reforger🄹

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Will gear control work?

undone jay
opaque stratus
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Couldn't it be possible to perhaps use the one from the A10?

fluid python
hardy apex
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Id much prefer the mine explosions to the rpg explosions, I hope that’s possible šŸ¤”

cyan knot
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Dose the cannon work?

livid wyvern
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šŸ˜

echo palm
hexed roost
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I think co pilot controlled lock on missiles would be cool for now like hellfires.

There is a mod with them and I've seen them add it onto a bmp so it's definitely possible for future

signal violet
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Perhaps let the pilot use the auto cannons/rockets and the co-pilot use any guided armaments

hexed roost
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Yeah but as of rn until bohemia fix the script pilots can't use weapons

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The script used for weapons on helicopters controlled by pilots when put into the workbench just crashes the work bench all together

fluid python
signal violet
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You could do that too

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and yes, i too can fly šŸ¤

undone jay
hexed roost
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I can't wait.

hexed roost
undone jay
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36 hours of no sleep

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And before someone says my lights are broken.

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They just got a weird set up there’s so my under body lights

hexed roost
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Like if you had a multiple pilon helicopter you had pilot controlled dumbfire rockets but the co pilot could use lock on guided ones

jolly urchin
undone jay
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The weapon slot components are all messed up for pilot fired missiles and or weapons.

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The base vanilla game is supposed to add MI8 rocket pods soon so when that comes out we’ll have an easier job of doing that as for now I’ll see what I can do about my 30mm and nose cannon

hexed roost
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I have a bad feeling they will be broken until BI add the rocket pods

undone jay
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Which I may resort to using mortar bullets which snow owl was telling us about in another discord

hexed roost
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Yeah that would probably work, oh and btw the mod I mentioned a few messages up would have to be controlled by co pilot in he camera cos u look at a vehicle hold the lock button down and it takes like 3-4 seconds to lock before it will track and that is basically impossible as a pilot

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But on a better note, maybe u should go to bed😭

clever siren
undone jay
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I’ll give it a shot after I get the whole body sorted out

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Still need to fix my hit box which I’m horrible at in blender and then I need to separate my glass and a couple other things like the turret

clever siren
hexed roost
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Okay but seriously bro, if u haven't slept in 36 hours go to bed this mod only just got added to the showcase like we don't expect this shit instantly go sleep😭

hexed roost
clever siren
undone jay
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Rigging is what’s annoying

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Especially when workbench and blender are 2 different apps that you have to keep bouncing to. That’s what makes modding annoying. I learned the workshop before blender and now I wish it was the other way around.

clever siren
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yeah, the workshop is way easier to understand, more contextual while blender you have to watch thousands of tutorials and install plugins to be able to do anything. also there are outside pluggings that make rigging characters and vehicles easier. you have to convert from .blend to .obj tho I think

echo palm
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Well with the old helicopters didn't people make there on script for pilot rocket pods

clever siren
soft temple
undone jay
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Hit box is good now šŸ¤™

soft temple
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Fun thing is that I can 100% hot swap like i did in battlefield 4, due to auto hover 😈

hexed roost
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Hot swapping in bf 4 was so op

naive forum
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this mod is already available in the workshop?

hexed roost
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Doubt it, only started being made 2 days ago

undone jay
slim hazel
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cool

undone jay
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Mod is live for people to try out (it’ll be labeled as an extra Huey somewhere in gm unbeknownst to me šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø) lol

worthy sleet
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Really liking it so far. Do you plan on making the avionics work at some point?

signal violet
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Tried it on private GM, all works pretty well until i choose to switch weapons while in the co-pilot seat. It crashed me twice while doing so

undone jay
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I’m aware only use the gunner seat not co pilot (co pilot technically doesn’t exist)

signal violet
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i think i saw two options on the co pilot seat, let me double check

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When i sit down, it appears

undone jay
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I know, gotta remove the option

opaque stratus
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Copilot can actually control it which is funny

undone jay
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Yeah it be like that

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Alligator goes it’s actual irl top speed which is 317 KMH may drop that down a bit

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Arma 2 had it at 227 but even then that’s still fairly fast

cyan knot
# undone jay

Will the gun be shooting the 30mm cannon later? And will have stabilizer?

south kernel
south kernel
cyan knot
still meteor
south kernel
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Shooting a 30mm auto cannon from a helicopter isn’t easy lmao

cyan knot
south kernel
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Nothing to do with the war, it’s just they don’t develop the same technologies as the us or other countries. Nothing to do with the war lmao.

cyan knot
south kernel
undone jay
clever siren
clever siren
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modern aircraft have incredibly advanced fire control systems and optics. it's not Vietnam anymore why tf would you assume Russian helicopters don't have a stabilizer for their guns?!

cyan knot
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See what I mean šŸ’€

clever siren
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brother... dampeners are literally just for recoil mitigation

south kernel
cyan knot
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KA-52 is as good and deadly as a Apache, and has the same ability what the Apache can do but they Operate differently in there ways but they are both modernized with everything you can think of

clever siren
clever siren
south kernel
south kernel
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I can’t find any information on a stabilization system for the KA-52 so this conversation is useless unless you’re a Russian pilot willing to leak military documents.

south kernel
# undone jay

Is it possible to put the bmp cannon on the right side of it with a more limited view since irl it uses the literal bmp cannon

still meteor
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If you look closely you can see a man on the left gear

bright summit
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I will test again but apparentely when I try to change the gun from 7.62 for 30mm the games crashes

still meteor
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Yes it will

bright summit
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ok

opaque stratus
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Plus you can very much put a stabiliser on a helicopters main gun as all modern helicopters such as the ka52 have it. If they didn't the main gun would be abit pointless wouldn't it? Cmon use your head

undone jay
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Vihkr is what you’re referring to

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When pilot gun control comes in the UPK will hit different

hexed roost
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I have found a weird bug, when in gunner seat if you press rb to switch wepons it automatically crashes the game

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So it switches weapons to nothing so u can't shoot and then game crashes

south kernel
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The main gun of the bmp2 is in fact a auto cannon 🤔

south kernel
undone jay
hexed roost
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šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

south kernel
undone jay
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Press it

undone jay
hexed roost
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Not yetšŸ‘€

south kernel
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If they’re no missiles add gunpods blobcloseenjoy

hexed roost
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Get in the gunner seat and press shoot lmao, the reason there isn't missiles yet is because the components for pilot controlled weapons is broken and cannot be added to helis without crashing the workbench

south kernel
echo palm
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@undone jay does this work in conflict

undone jay
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I ain’t even gonna answer that

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The mod just came out last night it’s still WIP lol not right now lol

hexed roost
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In future we might see gunner seat controlled lock on anti tanks using BGONE but as of right now all we have is what is in the mod, give the man some time the mod came into wip a few days ago and poor vape went with 36 hours no sleep working on it for us

south kernel
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I want to be the A-10 of helicopters šŸ’€

hexed roost
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He said before there will be multiple versions in the future with different weapon systems just give him time, he still hasn't finished his other project fully yet but it's almost done

undone jay
south kernel
hexed roost
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They are eventually

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First big update adds guns second big update adds missiles to the Huey

south kernel
hexed roost
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Yeah

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So the second part of this update we had called air assault or something adds
-ai driving
-ai commanding
-mortars
-new wepons
-two new vehicles
-guns to the helis
-hand held flares or gl flares
-supressors
-scopes

Next big update called final strike adds
-electrical grid to everon and arland
-basic destruction engine for structures
-hq role
-rockets for helis
-explosives like ieds

  • LAV-25
    -civilian outfits

Sorry that this isnt related to this chat

south kernel
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Gonna for sure have people trying to capture electrical stations or defending them

opaque stratus
hexed roost
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Yeah, I use darker nights mod in my server so being able to turn off an entire towns lights is gonna be so good

south kernel
opaque stratus
south kernel
hexed roost
south kernel
hexed roost
opaque stratus
undone jay
hexed roost
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Realistically if we lucky BI will fix it. If not we will have to wait until rocket pods are added and there is no telling how long that will be.

echo palm
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@undone jay hey I just downloaded it and I'm in my own gm I can't seem to find it

undone jay
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It’ll look out of place in the gm menu that’s how I find it

echo palm
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How do you roll these out so fast

torn shadow
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Just want to say great job with this, keep up the good work

echo palm
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This is what we really need šŸ˜‚

south kernel
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Could you ask him for that tech and have it put on your helicopter, then have the gunner control the missiles

south kernel
undone jay
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Because I’m not going to add someone’s dependency just for it to break and then I complain about it for a week and then finally fix it then they fix there’s then I add it back and then it breaks again

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I watched a ton of people go through that exact scenerio and just give up

grim karma
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Will the Ka-52 have ejectable seats and AIM-lock laser missiles?

south kernel
clever siren
cunning patrol
glacial meadow
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Alligator

undone jay
gleaming cloud
hexed roost
undone jay
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Gonna make this a feature call it self inflicting rounds

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KNOWN ISSUES WITH THE KA-52:

  1. Gunner Seat Showing up with Co Pilot Seat (Co Pilot is fine to use and is good)

  2. Gunner Seat does not have a correct exit feature causing player to be animation locked in place unable to exit vehicle.

  3. Pressing ā€œVā€ (Change Weapon) will result in a Personal Crash (Not server crash)

  4. Blade Hit Box Does not exist past 1m

  5. landing Gear tends to face weight towards the nose of the aircraft.

NOTE: Helicopter is all around fine for server use and is alright more features will come out and more Russian Military Based livery’s will be added (Grey next)

Also I have a whole bunch of different Weapon models I can attach to the hard points down the road for different variations too (or when they add pilot boom boom support), also the NOSE TURRET IS TEMPORARY to give it physical fighting capability the gunner seat will go bye bye and turn into a camera operated seat down the road and sensor ball will be added back.

grim mesa
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I may just be stupid but I can't find it in game master

hexed roost
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@grim mesa modeled as a Huey in the gm list, ain't got the right name or picture

grim mesa
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K

fluid python
undone jay
fluid python
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Exactly for once we can have something russian better then the Americans

undone jay
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There’s top speed and then there’s safe speed

fluid python
undone jay
fluid python
undone jay
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A falcon can go 389kmh straight down (the bird)

fluid python
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It was pretty much classified as a Jet at that point

fluid python
undone jay
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Yeah if you take that heli anywhere near 380 you’re going to die

slow cargo
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@undone jay when I go into game master to check it out it doesn't appear any idea why?

undone jay
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It’s a Huey that’s out of place in the menu

slow cargo
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Should I go to all then?

undone jay
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Can’t see it in ā€œVehiclesā€ filter go to ā€œAllā€ yes

slow cargo
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Yeah still not seeing it

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Bruh I'm getting excited asf and I can't find itšŸ˜žšŸ˜ž

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Nvm I found itšŸ˜ but I instantly crashed as soon as I hoped in the gunner

slow cargo
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@undone jay when ever u enter the gunner seat and switch weapons you're game crashes

hexed roost
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Fuck me this chat thread makes me happy I don't develop mods

undone jay
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It’s fine all aside that gunner seat on exit and pressing v those are the only 2 bugs other stuff is on me I’m pushing an update tonight with the dials and gauges

hexed roost
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So how's to going on attaching a tank to the bottom with hellfire missiles and an ac130 to each of the propellor blades and the A-10 gau-8 to the front?

quick island
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What

round linden
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I’m assuming that we most likely won’t see any type of rocket pods on any chopper until they add them to vanilla chopper’s like they said they would in the future

round linden
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God I hope it comes soon because it wouldn’t be fun if we get the update in like 5 months

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Also I wondering if the front mounted gun for the gunner is going to ever feel like an actual front cannon of an attack chopper because I doubt the plan is to keep it as some buff PKM forever

jolly urchin
round linden
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Yeah I understand all of that I was just questioning it because it feels like the Viper mod has a more impactful turret against infantry than the KA-52 does but they could be the same gun for all I know but I really don’t know but it seems like they are completely different turrets

undone jay
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Then the weapons will be strictly pilot oriented the gunner seat is temp the front nose has sensors no turret

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The 30mm on the side will work which is that massive gun, and then I’ll add missiles but that’s only when

opaque stratus
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Will it clip through the heli or will it be restricted to what it can do irl

south kernel
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It should be restricted to what It can do irl because it’d be cursed if it wasn’t

stiff scroll
opaque stratus
quick island
opaque stratus
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Ka50 with extra steps

fluid python
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Will it be just like a strafing gun pointed forward or an actual moving turret?

undone jay
fluid python
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I’m a little slow be patient lmao

undone jay
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There won’t be a turret period on the alligator the front gun will go, the co pilot will be navigation and calculation

fluid python
undone jay
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I plan on adding drop to the missiles on the KA-52 so it can be used as volley artillery

gritty ridge
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Player model clipping through seat

midnight hinge
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@gritty ridge sending an image might help to clarify the issue.

undone jay
gritty ridge
undone jay
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Even striders used to do it.

dreamy panther
undone jay
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Yes

dreamy panther
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Ralian briefly talked about it with the blackhawk I'll ping you, might help

round linden
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I saw that @elfin garnet was able to get weapons like rocket pods to work for just the helicopter pilot and not the gunner and I would love to know what this information means for the future of the KA-52 and other attack helicopters in the future and if you don’t know what I’m talking about just go look at the spacestider showcase feed

echo palm
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@round linden what is there a video

fluid python
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(Obviously neither mine just snagged them from Space’s channel where it’s explained how they did it)

undone jay
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This will be updated soon

supple matrix
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šŸ‘€

hallow aurora
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Can’t wait for the update. Going to take a bunch of pictures/videos of this beaut doing gun runs

hallow aurora
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Vape, is it okay if I ask of the general ETA of the KA-52 overhaul? Sorry to be a bother, I just can’t wait to finally have an armed heli for the Ruski’s

slow cargo
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@undone jay why did u dip from ranger

undone jay
undone jay
hallow aurora
slow cargo
slow cargo
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@undone jay hey how's the mod going

slow cargo
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@undone jay anything on the mod?

round linden
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No need to update now someone already made a fix for it and added rocket pods

hallow aurora
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But the fix has a LOT of mods as a dependencies that do nothing. So the fix is kind’ve pointless for us players who don’t play on that person’s server

supple matrix
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Whilst the fix is nice, I agree with deadly it's pointless unless you play on those servers which imo is just a way to stratigicaly lock the fix to those servers to try and drive up the player count for a bit

hallow aurora
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There’s like exponential more mods that are ā€œrequiredā€ Ex: grey zone, a map mod, RHS, and a few others just for a fix?

undone jay
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I’ve been awol for a bit and someone updates my heli šŸ˜‚ good on them though I appreciate a temporary fix. But I will be back eventually just sorting out life right now and getting a place.

supple matrix
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Take your time man, life is more important

round linden
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A texture update would be nice to to make it look cleaner

undone jay
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The gunner seat was temporary just so everyone knows but I don’t know when I’ll resume progress

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I’m quite busy atm if anyone has any questions just dm me.

kindred lake
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Hey so, I think you should update the Mod description so that people can understand why it'd still in WIP, like even me before joining this discord I was wondering why it was still in WIP, cool mod tho

undone jay
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It’s in progress because I have a life outside of arma that’s the best way to sum it up lol

kindred lake
undone jay
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Plus if I go in and touch it it’ll screw everything up for the guys who made a ā€œfixā€ for something that wasnt really broken everything in the wip was intended even the buggy gunner seat it was temporary to give it a weapon that’s before pilot weapons got released back

kindred lake
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Most of the "Fix" just adds rocket to it, they didnt fix really anything

hexed roost
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Yeah and all of the "fix" mods require 5 fucking dependencys

kindred lake
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Fr

undone jay
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That’s because they try to privatize my work for their own servers which is fine it’s cool deters people but eventually yess I’ll fix this just updated almensk

thorny plank
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pleaseeeeee NOOO

undone jay
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Working on getting the mod in working order soon

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As for now mil misc is my step towards learning blender a little better so I can work on other projects, just a stepping stone

hardy apex
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This mod still exists meowawww

undone jay
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Updating now

undone jay
undone jay
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Yes the seamless control between pilot and co pilot is a thing I intended I don’t like locked controls or override this allows for quick decision making and flight training

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Obviously co pilot has no flight animation hes like your grandfather using his knees to drive while smoking some reds

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Aware of any current light issues. And aware of any flight issues. Rocket pods will be added soon. And yes I will change faction status to RU

undone jay
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NEW UPDATE IN 10 MINUTES much much better

undone jay
opaque stratus
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Will we see gear controls?

next mountain
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Never leave bro unsupervised while moding

undone jay
undone jay
# undone jay

this was an audio test do not use copyrighted sounds obviously

next mountain
opaque stratus
# undone jay

I cannot define the happiness I felt when they showed the ka52 in the trailer yet the game just flopped

supple matrix
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šŸ‘€

manic vault
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šŸ‘€šŸ™?

opaque stratus
quick island
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Oh yeah

tall sundial
grim karma
undone jay
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Eventually yes

grim karma
undone jay
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I could just switch the skids out for wheels if I switched the body id have to re do everything and rebuild it not that simple

grim karma
undone jay
vale sundial
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šŸ˜‚if only lmao

undone jay
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I’d have to have a script trigger system to blow off it whole bunch of animations and everything

vale sundial
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ETA.. arma 7

neon depot
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@undone jay Hey, man. Glad you got this up and running! Just wanted to let you know I see the faction for it is US Army and not Soviet on my server.

undone jay
undone jay
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Conflict menu fix is out

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@neon depot uploading now before I jump on star citizen thought I’d quickly nail it out of the way

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@neon depot what was the cost for the heli

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When trying to spawn it on helipad in conflict

neon depot
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it says 0 but i havent updated it yet

undone jay
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Update will be live soon. This is the new trait for it. Thing is OP so I’m keeping it as MAJ Spawn only

gusty grotto
lethal hawk
undone jay
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I can’t put missile pods on with the 30 it’s one or the other it’ll be a separate prefab

crimson cradle
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Oi

hardy apex
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Yeah he’s gonna be gone for a while so don’t try

dull slate
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#WentToGetMilk

crimson cradle
hardy apex
lunar gyro
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can put this heli to buyboard?

neon depot
lunar gyro
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To spawn in game in heli pad

neon depot
long zenith
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This thing still op

thick pollen
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I loaded the mod in server config, game downloaded it, can't see it at helipad in conflict or in game master. any ideas? It's happening to a few vehicle mods

solemn harness
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In order to be seen in the helicopter catalog, you need to add it to a country's vehicle catalog, you can do it on this workbench.

tacit ember
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removed from workshop @undone jay ?

undone jay
tacit ember
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dang, i just added it too haha, open to share why?

tacit ember
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understandable, thanks, excited to see whats to come brother @undone jay Hype

halcyon arch
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Will you ever update your KA-52 mod or will the project be forever lost?

undone jay
halcyon arch
lean zinc
undone jay
lean zinc
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It’s a mystery

drifting crest
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that wcs uses