M240 Weapon System - Project Underway

[tepid canyon]

I've kept this one in showroom as it's not in a release state and is separate to my currently underway DarkGru Operators. Questions here in this thread please.

[faint briar]

Your doing good ass work man

[novel tide]

What does it sound like currently? Or is it still using vanilla sound

[proper dust]

Can't wait for this

[pseudo egret]

Looks amazing

[tepid canyon]

Currently no firing audio is implemented, so default PKM.

[native crow]

aussie 240 before gta 6

[north bronze]

Awesome

[timber temple]

As long as you actually run with the damn thing. Idk why people who never carried m240 talking about “🤓 it’s a heavy weapon” mofo I carried that gun in the Marine Corps 🥹 it’s heavy but still light enough to run with , under heavy fire! might not be the most fun experience but you get my points!! The m60 was heavier than the m240B , and the m240L , so please allow us to run with it ❤️❤️🙏🏾

[tepid canyon]

I had no plans to stop you running with it, do the vanilla LMGs stop you running when it's equipped? I will adjust movement speed while ADS but a small speed decrease while running to simulate the extra weight would make sense would it not?

Were you keeping pace with the riflemen with the 240 when you were in the USMC? Legitimate question.

[timber temple]

Oh of course not, 😂 but I ran my ass off when it came being udner fire!! Truthfully it’s a fitness thing. Full kit with fresh and full boxes..it’s a pain,, when you let some rounds go much better! Truthfully it’s not so bad . Even with a sling! And I agree! I wish we could simulate the weight with the ammo, that’s the biggest issue

[timber temple]

Compared to Marines humping a Mk19, or mortar tube or plate! Or even watching them hump Javelins! I’d much rather have the 240 the most cruel thing 😂 (while it don’t apply to me) they used to give the shortest dues the 240!!

[timber temple]

For me the issue is, when people made the other 240 mod on the workshop you literally can only speed walk with it. No matter if it was empty ! I think a small decrease is perfect 👍🏽 and I love your take on it

[tepid canyon]

@timber temple When it drops, I will expect your feedback for it, feel free to send me a dm with anything you can think of that might help me with the mod, video, images, details. That kind of thing.

[coral mortar]

Bruh on active for a Lil I had to carry the saw with 800 rounds and a Carl G I hated my life lucky it was only for 2 weeks

[timber temple]

Sounds good brother!! Sorry for the late reply been a long day!!

[tepid canyon]

Progress update:
Player animations for erect reloads are done, not shown in the video but there is also a custom rack bolt animation as well.

Still need to fix the magazine not following the hand despite the relations in Blender, will keep working on that. The timings on the weapon animations are not matching as they were set up with the pkm animation timings, easily fixed once the playeranims are finalised.

Overall progressing nicely while also working on Darkgru Operators.

Still alot of work to do. Quick shoutout to @copper bear for his brief tutorial on NLA editing, life-saver while we wait for the official BI tutorial for advanced anims.

[copper bear]

I've had issues with my constraints not properly transferring to my exported animations. It's probably something I'm doing wrong on my end. But currently my solution has been to make my animation with constraints. Then bake that animation into a new action. This action is what I will export. I can then disable/hide my constraints, make sure it looks like I want it to on the new action and export that.

Feel free to reach out with questions. No guarantees I can always help but might be something I've encountered

[timber temple]

One thing I never ever seen a video game do, is looking down or away when the character lifts the feeding tray! In real life, if you’re not careful that spring can shoot straight into your eye and kill you

[north bronze]

What spring are you reffering to?

[timber temple]

The drive spring or recoil spring

[north bronze]

I need a picture

Ive shot an FN MAG before but I cannot for the life of me recall that spring

[tepid canyon]

Erect reloads done and synced to the weapon components and hand movements, prone player reloads (slowed it down to see how it looks overall) are done except for the bolt racking and weapon component sync up and tweaks. Getting there. Slowly but surely.

[faint briar]

Killing the game bro

[north bronze]

How exactly would that spring pop out when you open the tray? Its held in by the buttstock

[timber temple]

its not lol

youre confusing it for a bumper spring

you know that CLICK CLACK sound

yea its that

but dont believe me? go to a US base and try look at an m240 feed tray after shooting it and see if someone dont drop kick you LOL

[north bronze]

no Im talking about the drive spring

this

where is the spring you talk about?

[timber temple]

yea the drive spring can literally shoot into your face if not careful

they also warned us about that

thats why when you look at the Marines

we look away temporarily when relaoding the 240b

[north bronze]

what you are referencing can only happen during dissassmbly not reloading

https://youtu.be/9zhPShoAkQ0?t=46

timestamped

[timber temple]

they would still make us do it, just in case , as well as to make sure theres nothing caught in the tray! all possibilities but I get what you're saying. Im just saying, we were always made to do it

[north bronze]

thats silly, you only lift the feed tray because you need to visually verify that the chamber is clear, making you look away when lifting the feed tray is contrary to purpose

[tepid canyon]

Maybe it's look away initially then get up to inspect. I am a civilian 100% and just like watching the 240 in action so that's my reason for making the mod. I will do my best to represent it as accurately as I can, depending on my overall skills etc.

I am making good progress and will pause for now to continue work on Darkgru, may do some more 240 work this week, if not after Christmas.

[north bronze]

Cant wait to see these guns in action <3

[tepid canyon]

The 3 variants will be relatively safe to use the same IK and reload etc, the L will be lighter than the G with a collapsible stock instead of fixed (aesthetic) and have slightly different components and adjusted textures, then the FMG 762 will be different again, lighter again but I plan to make the lighter weapon have the foregrip angle component like the real one, with custom model additions that might not be in the initial release of the mod as I am not sure how long they will take me to make from scratch.

The nutsack and 300 round ammo can is another thing I need to figure out.

[north bronze]

I’m assuming you meant 200 round can

Also what is the foregrip angle component?

[tepid canyon]

I see ammo cans stamped 7.62x51mm 300 round ball. If it's 200 all good.

Foregrip is folding apart from the bipod on the FMG 762. Look it up on YouTube.

[coral mortar]

You look away initially when clearing the weapon because rounds can get caught in the feed tray and cook off in your face. @north bronze

I've seen this happen multiple times

I have been a saw gunner for 3 years and I have shot and worked a 240 many times so I know what im talking about

[north bronze]

Now see that makes sense

[timber temple]

The hype 🙂

[timber temple]

Bro….i literally said that

[north bronze]

No you were talking about the drive spring

[timber temple]

@coral mortar ☠️it makes says when you say it, but this dude seems to not understand my engkish

[timber temple]

And im **still ** not wrong, I challenge you to test my bluff

[north bronze]

‘‘That spring’’

[timber temple]

^ I also said anything in the feed tray as well

Mr selective hearing

But hey 🤷🏾

Do your thing

[north bronze]

You literally didnt

[timber temple]

Im not arguing this my friend , you started this debate

[north bronze]

Yes because what you said was factually innacurate

The drive spring cannot hit you in the face when you lift the feed tray

[timber temple]

You’re still on this?

[north bronze]

No, there is nothing to debate

[timber temple]

And yes tf it can, anything , when you lift up that tray , if that weapon malfunctioned you’re getting it launched itnotctour face

You said yourself “well that’s silly” why wouldn’t you look away when reloading

BECUASE YOU HAVE TO if you like your face

[north bronze]

The spring that is connected to the BOLT?

Lmao

[timber temple]

Would you have preferred that Barney style ?

You know what imma call you Barney

[north bronze]

Ok lol

[timber temple]

You would have the been the type we dropped kicked for real but becuasd you think you know it all

You didnt even know you have to look away when reloading the weapon

But hey you shot it before right?

[north bronze]

Indeed

[timber temple]

I’m surprised you’re here with us with both eyes

[north bronze]

Rounds cooking off is not the same as a recoil spring

[timber temple]

My friend I literally said anything in that feed tray

ANYTHING

[north bronze]

You did not initially

[timber temple]

I said it wayyy before revan said anything

Wayyyyyy

Before

But hey

[north bronze]

I quoted your exact initial statement

[timber temple]

Today I recommended looking up m240b weapon failures

And tell me where that spring is going when it malfunctions

Good luck and that concludes ted talk

[north bronze]

Right here, you say, and I quote «that spring» not «anything on the feed tray»

[timber temple]

That was my initial statement and I love how you circumnavigate me explaining it further as to why it’s important ☠️

[north bronze]

And I have only ever talked about how your INITIAL statement is wrong

[timber temple]

a 300 ammo box would be legendary

[north bronze]

Now I would love for you to explain to me how the recoil spring is in any danger of hitting my face when I lift the feed tray

[timber temple]

Never ever really seen a difference between the Golf and the Light, all they did was shave a pound or two , removed the heat shield , and visually that Looks like it

I don’t know much about the British versions . I just assumed it’s the same system just with a shorter barrel?? Idk ☠️.

Sad days becuase the Marine Weapon Squad is slowly dissipating. While I love the idea of an entire squad running around with 100rd mags , it’s insane that they’d even consider the 240B being replaced . It does its job amazingly

But it’s like I said, I’m perosonally happy that you are going about this properly , becuase the weapon system while heavier than an m16/m27/m4 , it’s still light weight enough to sprint and run with, for short periods of time! What I **dont ** like about the current mod, and people in my unit complain about , is that they can’t sprint under heavy AI FIRE, which essentially makes the m240B useless as an in game weapon! Bohemia had the recipe correct the way they did the m60!

Only thing that would be icing on the cake I to have a tripod , deployable with it if you wanted

[timber temple]

Listen , let’s move on man

[north bronze]

B

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Btw @timber temple

[timber temple]

😫😫😫😫❤️❤️❤️

[north bronze]

Mhm

Picture of me with the FN MAG

[timber temple]

I love it bro!! 😫❤️

😂👍🏽😫 you got me cheesin

That winter camo looks sexy asf

So what separates the FN from the 240??

[north bronze]

Externally mostly just the muzzle brake, other than that I’m not sure

[novel tide]

I like this one more purely for the heatguard on it

[north bronze]

M240 heatshield is iconic

[timber temple]

😭 you tryna go into the arms business and resell already made guns LOL I’ll slap a rubber ducky on the end , and call it the m240D

We’ll be rich!!

[north bronze]

What?

[timber temple]

Maaaan that heat shield really does come in clutch 😂

Had a Marine grab the barrel like a dumbass , singed his whole hand 🤚

🧎🏾the ass chewing we got

Dude was coconut tbh

[north bronze]

No doubt

[timber temple]

well anyways love ya man ❤️ glad we cool

[north bronze]

Is the TA648 6x Machine Gun Optic planned for this pack aswell?

[tepid canyon]

Been multiple requests for it so it may.