Arma Reforger - Extra Attachment Slots

[candid lodge]

Wow okay, how did you do that

[unique bane]

This system will single handedly make modding weapons and armor a thousand times better

With things like dedicated NVG slots

[young imp]

Please! Let this be the norm!!

[nocturne tartan]

I tried to do the same but with more slots on the left

[raw lotus]

Very neat indeed

[modest fiber]

@nocturne tartan I can probably do that actually could keep all default on the right and add new ones to the left

[shy otter]

lets go

[modest fiber]

Can't split them because it's a grid.

That's as good as it gets

[plucky hedge]

This will be incredible once dropped. I am assuming it will be a similar design to attachment compatibility as a dependency for other mod authors to implement?

[raw lotus]

@willow valve

[willow valve]

Holy sheet

[young imp]

Im ecstatic

[willow valve]

Can't wait for this to be a dependency of everything

[young imp]

Drip drop around the clock my G

Imagine customizing your own plate carrier too

[modest fiber]

This is for an entire framework i'm working on. i'll probably release a standalone version of the character and if I do it will be under the No Derivatives license as to keep others from breaking it. There is too much stuff that has to be overwritten. So once released as a standalone it will be as is, no changing what the slots are for and all that. Otherwise if Modder A uses slot 6 for NVGs and Modder B uses slot 6 for Dogtags and then Joe Schmoe uses both mods on his server the one that's loaded last is the one that works correctly, rendering the first one useless.

[shy otter]

once @modest fiber and people start creating stuff people need to read the mod description and see what thing will go

[modest fiber]

Quick update

After a quick test it seems that every slot could be a "storage compartment" Here I tested with 5 just to see what happens

[willow valve]

I can't wait!

[lyric wasp]

Exited for this to come out especially for gas masks stuff like that

[young imp]

A shemagh for the neck area

[modest fiber]

So i looked into it today, and a second column is gonna be a bit trickier to get working because the core scripts only do things based off row. So this is gonna take more time to get working than originally planned.

[young imp]

Take your time G
We'll be waiting patiently

[lyric wasp]

👍

[modest fiber]

Okay, it wasn't as hard as i thought it was gonna be. Got it done last night in like 20 minutes. Thought I broke the watch / bino slots but apparently they don't work with drag and drop by default. Only way to equip those is using the action. Anyway. I need some input on slot types. Some are gonna exist regardless of input because i need them. The others are up for debate

Head - Balaclavas/Bandanas
Eyes - Glasses/Goggles
Ears? - Headsets, earplugs
Face - Masks, Gasmasks
Neck - Dogtags, Scarves
Extra - Armbands, clan/rank patches
Extra2 - whatever you want really 
Waist - for attaching toolkits, medkits and holsters
Gloves - Duh

[plucky hedge]

Waist - Belts/Holsters?

[modest fiber]

That'll work.

basically rigs for, waist/thighs

[plucky hedge]

Yea my thoughts.

[modest fiber]

i'm also already working on a holster setup as well

[plucky hedge]

Roger

[modest fiber]

I currently have an input set to "holster" the weapon, gonna work on it after this. Basically it will look for PointInfo and place the weapon in that location when holstered

probably use a component for simplification

[plucky hedge]

Will an offset be possible?

[modest fiber]

from the little experimenting ive done it seems so

[plucky hedge]

Nice, be curious to see how this pans out

[modest fiber]

Pistols can be holstered by default fyi, there is just a setting ticked that makes them not show

@plucky hedge Need something for the last slot

[nocturne tartan]

What about more than one extra slot?

[modest fiber]

example of usage

[nocturne tartan]

So armband + rank patch or 2 armsbands

Or like all extra slots and you can combine everything how you want to

[modest fiber]

everything successfully attaches and such

[unique bane]

You think its ready? I cant wait for when we can use this framework in loadout mods

[modest fiber]

@unique bane I'm gonna release this char as a standalone. Then just use it as a dependency for my framework. Then anything made for this character will work for my framework by default.

Icons aren't the greatest. but they can be updated easily.

[unique bane]

Id love to see RHS, vergys, Exe's, and all those dudes mods have this level of customization

[modest fiber]

Apparently this Thread is already being talked about in RHS

I have to take some screenshots but after that i'll publish

[unique bane]

Hell yeah!

[modest fiber]

they are already using my tank class, which im not to fond of. There is no way in hell they're getting this without using it as a dependency

[unique bane]

Sounds fair enough to me

[modest fiber]

Published

@plucky hedge

[plucky hedge]

Will pick it up after work and see how I need to go about things.

Great work mate, I had a try at something similar and failed to epic proportions.

[modest fiber]

I included prefabs for every new attachment slot

Just gotta drag and drop in your xob files

well inherit from the prefab.

Change name and weight and such

[plucky hedge]

Righto

Prefabs based off main skeleton or specific bone offset?

[modest fiber]

Prefabs for the items, with the correct slot defined and such. I can add some working examples if needed. I didn't include any of the assets i made, as to keep the mod small

[plucky hedge]

I am happy to experiment, any pressing issues will post back and ask the question 😉

[candid lodge]

So anyone is able to use this as long as its a dependency?

[split pulsar]

Yes

[candid lodge]

Awesome

may actually get me to get back to reforger modding now

though i gotta work out how adding things as dependent and using these slots wokr

[split pulsar]

To set as a dependency, download the mod, then when creating a new mod, you select it as your dependency.
https://i.gyazo.com/60dbbcea20285d4bc0721cf4e1d8145e.png

[candid lodge]

Ah, its that easy, gotcha lmao

[plucky hedge]

@modest fiber Little bit of feedback. Working so far for me, only issue is in first person view, any face/head attachment slots, fail to use the parametric setting.~~ I'm going to see if I can simply use the same workaround we were using on the NVG, duplicating a helmet, then changing loadout type to your new attachment point and see if that works. Will let you know how it goes!~~

This method didn't work for me. I am going to try one last thing and if that works will post what I did.

[young imp]

Good luck man

[plucky hedge]

Alright, so I can't get it to work, using the workaround I suggested above, doesn't work, creating a custom slot using the standard headcover loadout slot as a base, didn't work.

If I pu the earpro on as a slot in the headgear as a locked slot, it hides correctly, but if as a standalone swappable item, it doesn't hide in 1st person. I'm going to see if the way bacon showed me (hiding the mesh itself when changing camera - on in 3rd, off in 1st), but not idea how that will turn out.

Keep in mind, this is only an issue on head items, so glasses, masks, microphones on headsets etc are visible. Unknown if repairable unless Bohemia change out how it that parametric system works (adding a way to hide specific items with a toggle or something similar). For now, I'll have to keep the headgear as one piece (I unfortunately don't know if there is a way to only have some slots usable or not).

[plucky hedge]

Alright so using an old script bacon sent to me a while back from the NVG to hide 1st person, it works, but hopefully only a temp work around.

@proud oak Do you mind me sharing your hide/show script on camera switch in here, maybe Zelik can utilise it in his base mod? Or work something similar in as he seems to like scripting and digging in code as much as you?

[proud oak]

I found this idk if that was the one

[plucky hedge]

Yeah that is the one I went back and grabbed again as a test

[modest fiber]

You'

You've missed something. Because I included a script that autos hide anything on head, face, or eyes slot

Just tested and works fine for me

[plucky hedge]

Hmm.. I inherited your ear clothing, changed to my mesh.xob and it is visible :/

Earpro not hiding for me, the material is set up to hide and hides if set to a set slot on the hat itself. I have literally inherited from your mod EarsClothing prefab, then changed the xob for worn, item and mesh object to my item, model visible on 1st person. Am I missing something? @modest fiber

[plucky hedge]

Ohh you said head, face or eyes, not ears?

[modest fiber]

Oh I see. I only hide head, face and eyes

[plucky hedge]

I just saw that bit, sorry

[modest fiber]

I can update for ears after work

I figured people would want to see mic booms on headset and such

[plucky hedge]

No problem at all chief, I will continue on my merry way. So far it works perfectly for my ballcap, oakley sunglasses and peltor comtac 3s, working my way through splitting everything up.

Looking over my shoulder left or right looks a bit weird, if folks are happy to see their boom mic I won't ask you to change it man. I just didn't know

[modest fiber]

Na you're right

First person does some wonky stuff

I'll see if I can find a work around to hide mesh parts and not the entire mesh

[plucky hedge]

Yeah, the downside of the camera not being inside the head, means it rotates with an offset to the head mesh, resulting in weirdness

[modest fiber]

If you need other prefabs to help without having to create them lmk

I added one for jackets yesterday after I published

[plucky hedge]

The basic slots should work as per old setup still correct?

[modest fiber]

Yeah

[plucky hedge]

Awesome.

[modest fiber]

@plucky hedge Ears slot objects should now hide in first person.

[raw lotus]

@civic shell

[proud oak]

do the items from those slots save as part of arsenal loadout?

[shy otter]

^

would be neat

[modest fiber]

Currently no because I have no need for arsenal loadouts but I'll look into it

[modest fiber]

Or maybe they do? There is no ref that i can see that chooses what slots to save. It just seems to save the loadout. So i'm guessing they save by default. Maybe @plucky hedge can test this for us.

[plucky hedge]

Once I finish putting their new mod build together, 3rd rangers can test and let me know, then I can let you know. If nobody else does one in the meantime.

[modest fiber]

I don't mess with conflict or arsenal stuff so I don't really know how to test this tbh lol

[modest fiber]

Also, as soon as i figure out how to do it properly, i will have Extra and Extra2 slots both inherit from a parent class and the char will have 2 slots from said class. Allowing anything that's uses Extra and Extra2 to be used in either of the slots.

[modest fiber]

That seems to not be able to happen, the determining is done engine side it seems.

[proud oak]

open up gm arland and save loadout at arsenal box

but you'll need to spawn in using a spawn point instead of a character created by workbench for it to work

[modest fiber]

@proud oak They save correctly

[proud oak]

epic

[modest fiber]

Yeah pretty sweet tbh

[modest fiber]

@plucky hedge

Do we want something like this?

@unique bane@young imp Input please

[unique bane]

That will make modding SO much easier for helmets and stuff, having a dedicated position fixed to them where NVGs and Goggles and stuff can slot to

[young imp]

This is very helpful
Would allow for preferred NVG colors and types! Great work 👏🏾 and thank you

[modest fiber]

like this, I could write a default input for toggling the nvgs. and use proc anim to animate the model. This also get's rid of having to have a model for worn and item models for nvgs.

[young imp]

If this could be standardized, future nvg models could work with this for sure

[plucky hedge]

I would definitely look at it if you did it. I just did it the way I did it as a workaround

[plucky hedge]

If you can figure out a way of doing it, and having a bone that can animate the goggles up and down, or whatever is happening, all the power to you mate because that is what Greg is still to this day figuring out a MP compatible method.

[modest fiber]

https://vimeo.com/815461904

@plucky hedge

Easy Peasy

In this situation i was testing with an action

I can just change it to an input and it'll work the same

[plucky hedge]

That is the easy part. My question is how is it attaching to the skeleton of the character. Are you setting it's position to the head bone of the character?

It's easy to rig the animation, the hard part is rigging it to animate while attaching to the head. As you can't have additional bones so it ended up being done as a fixed slot inside the helmet prefab.

[modest fiber]

The only way for it to work is to have the slot it resides in on the helmet attached to the head bone.

[plucky hedge]

Yup and unless you figured out a way, you can't put on and remove slotted items on the fly ingame.

[modest fiber]

You can. that's how the flashlights work when inserted into the jackets (equip action does this, no drag and drop apparently)

In this situation, i'll override the pickup action for the nvgs, check to see if there is a slot it can attach to, and if so attach it, otherwise just pick it up.

The video was demonstrating a replicated animation, I thought thats what you were referring to when you mentioned greg.

[modest fiber]

https://vimeo.com/815502362

@plucky hedge

Changeable NVG in a slot on the helmet.

I got distracted with other shit but, in this test. It just attaches to slots for a "flashlight"

prefabs and such were just thrown together

Like I said, Easy Peasy. what i don't like is the fact that they don't equip to slot when dragged

i'll have to dig around some more when i get time to make drag and drop work correctly

[plucky hedge]

I will wait for you to break down that, I can see it slots in on the fly, not having drag and drop could become interesting, does the anim still work once equipped?

[modest fiber]

I have to get around to the input stuff for that, but can't you toggle the flashlights while their equipped to the chest already?

I may be thinking of another game. Either way, tomorrow after work i'll implement the input stuff and test the animations.

Should be no problem though

[modest fiber]

Also, I just did a quick test to see if i could hide the nvgs in first person and yes, i got it to work as intended. So even if the animation doesn't work at least we can hide the nvgs.

[modest fiber]

https://vimeo.com/815885369

@plucky hedge

@spring sleet

[spring sleet]

Gonna check that

[plucky hedge]

Is that swapping or animating when toggled?

[modest fiber]

animating

[plucky hedge]

I am getting ready for work or I would check it out myself.

[modest fiber]

I haven't updated

having a weird issued trying to publish

[plucky hedge]

Work in peer tool for MP?

[modest fiber]

yeah replication works

[modest fiber]

https://vimeo.com/815938170

[plucky hedge]

Will this be coming as part of your extra attachments and requiring Greg's nvgs still?

[modest fiber]

yeah and no other requirements

Somewhere along the lines my action listener stopped working on client. I just gotta fix that and it will be done. Not sure what caused it to break. Im looking into it

[plucky hedge]

Roger

[willow valve]

I have seen this however I haven't read alot, is it possible to have something be in the extra attachment slots that isnt attached to anything? For an example a nvg in the extra attachment slot even though you are wearing a boonie with nothing attaching the nvgs?

[plucky hedge]

Yep. In current build, I have the nvg dummy and active, can both be equipped in a slot, regardless of helmet/hat/bald Eagle.

[willow valve]

This may change the game in forms of making unit mods! Thanks for the info you modders are doing god's work for this community

[plucky hedge]

Just gotta keep in mind he is trying to set up an NVG attachment slot, that can be animated etc. Fingers crossed he gets that side of it working.

@modest fiber any luck on that front yet or still dramas when dropping?

[modest fiber]

@plucky hedge It's doing some wonky stuff for no apparent reason. Stuff that was working stopped, and new weird things started to happen.

I'd like to avoid adding a component to the character but i may end up having to

[proud oak]

are you sure you're not testing it in the bermuda triangle?

[plucky hedge]

Let me know how you go, in the meantime I will keep it as two nvg, one dummy, one active, that folk swap between when wanting to turn them on but keep the cool factor of having them deactivated, annoying but it works for the meantime lol.

I am sure Greg would be interested in your workaround if you get it going, it's holding up his stuff when the item gets dropped as well.

[modest fiber]

Okay, so not sure wtf was causing it to be wonky. I got it sorted.

The only thing i have to do now, is some logic to set/reset the effects when the character removes the helmet or nvgs from the helmet

[modest fiber]

Okay, it's sorted now

[plucky hedge]

Will definitely fire up and check it out when/if I get on my rig tonight to work on mods.

Great work man.

@spring sleet in case you aren't following along.

[plucky hedge]

Is this NVG stuff on the build on the workshop?

[modest fiber]

No, like I said before weird issues trying to publish. I'll work on getting that fixed sometime today. I may just remove the mod and try to reupload.

[plucky hedge]

Oh, your last message was sorted now hence my asking mate, sorry

[modest fiber]

No worries

I may reupload and change the name actually

[modest fiber]

@plucky hedge Update pushed

[willow valve]

Can't find the mod in #enf_showroom or #1049297536617291827, what's the ID for the vehicle editor mod?

[plucky hedge]

Uh.. wrong thread??

[plucky hedge]

Will have a look in a bit mate. Just walked in from work and got errands to get done before the wife gets home.

[willow valve]

I can't find it lol, I know zelik made it so figured I could ask her instead

[modest fiber]

I'm a guy

[willow valve]

Are you a freeguy?

[modest fiber]

Idk what that even means

[willow valve]

Don't worry bout it, do you know where the thread is for you vehicle skin editor?

[modest fiber]

I don't but when I get off work I can send you the GUID

Or you can uninstall and reinstall, then sort by modified date and it will be the top one.

[willow valve]

Sweet

I have no clue what any of this means but yeah sure 😭

[modest fiber]

I also rename all of my gproj files. So you can tell which is mine

[modest fiber]

@willow valve 5A9CE3D14925E936

@plucky hedge Shall I add weapon holsters next?

[willow valve]

Thank you

[modest fiber]

@willow valve No worries. If you need any help lmk

[plucky hedge]

Absolutely, have at it

[plucky hedge]

@modest fiber Did you create your nvg independently of the NVG by Greg? Looking at your stuff and I am seeing similarity but none of his mod so I was curious

[modest fiber]

@plucky hedge I only looked at his mod to see how he implemented the grain effect. The rest is all custom.

As far as setting the effects to the camera. There is only one way to do that from what I found and he did it the exact same way.

[modest fiber]

@spring sleet What are your current issues with your mod?

[spring sleet]

Only the problem with the animation

[modest fiber]

it just doesn't sync?

[spring sleet]

yeap

when weared

[modest fiber]

Are you using an RPC?

[spring sleet]

no i need to learn how to use them

[modest fiber]

    [RplProp(onRplName: "onRotationUpdated")]
    private bool m_bIsRotated = false;    
    
    
    
    //-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------    
    [RplRpc(RplChannel.Reliable, RplRcver.Server)]
    protected void RpcAsk_Rotate(bool isRotated)
    {
        if (isRotated == m_bIsRotated)
            return;

        m_bIsRotated = isRotated;
        ToggleAnim();
        Replication.BumpMe();
    }

Top is a variable that only the server can alter.

bottom is a function that runs on server

[spring sleet]

ToggleAnim(); is the exec of the anim i presume

[modest fiber]

    private void ToggleAnim()
    {
        if(m_bIsRotated == true)
        {
            m_SignalManager.SetSignalValue(m_iRotationSignal, m_fRotationValue);
        }
        else
        {
            m_SignalManager.SetSignalValue(m_iRotationSignal, 0.0);
        }    
    }

    void Rotate()
    {
        if(!m_CanRotate)
            return;
        
        if(m_bIsRotated == false)
        {
            Rpc(RpcAsk_Rotate, true);
            SetCameraPPEffects();            
        }
        else
        {
            Rpc(RpcAsk_Rotate, false);
            ResetCameraPPEffects();
        }
    }

Function used to ask to animate ^^^

    [RplProp(onRplName: "onRotationUpdated")]
    private bool m_bIsRotated = false; 

this is a variable that has a function that runs on client

    private void onRotationUpdated()
    {
        ToggleAnim();    
    }

it runs this

So when Rotate function is called

it asks server to "animate"

server then alters the bool value

[spring sleet]

so i need to rewrite a part of my code

[modest fiber]

Not too sure as i didn't look at it other than to see how you did the grain effect

but anytime you wanna fix it i'll help

[spring sleet]

For now i only use KeybindPressed() to activate my nvg so i need to transfer that into a proper variable to exec it in KeybindPressed()

like
Start() exec in KeybindPressed()

[modest fiber]

On KeybindPressed(), I assume is your input to toggle?

[spring sleet]

yes

[modest fiber]

Also do players have to turn it off before removing it or they keep the PPEffect?

[spring sleet]

no its automatically turn off when drop

[modest fiber]

Oh nice. I did a bunch of stuff using a script invoker to detect if it was removed.

not too fun tbh lol

[spring sleet]

just use "OnItemRemoved" in "SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent"

[modest fiber]

anyway, In KeybindPressed(), you would ask the server to animate the object, have it animate on server then it would call onRotationUpdated() which would have it rotate on client

You're using a component, so i dont think you'

you'll have to do like I did and give the player ownership of the object

[modest fiber]

Holstering Progress

[plucky hedge]

The old M-ninetydoodle

[modest fiber]

@plucky hedge To bad we can't fire weapons from script like other arma games

imagine a game mode with unicorn guns lol

On a positive note

I can more than likely get holstering of weapons to work

i may or may not get it to work with the quick slots

But since i already override the character i may be able to

Just gotta look at all my options

[willow valve]

Does that mean possible primary holster?

[unique bane]

You mean a sling

[willow valve]

Not particularly

[plucky hedge]

A primary holster.. like a sling. I haven't seen a primary weapon holster in a game apart from westerns for lever actions etc.

[spring sleet]

how do you check "m_CanRotate" ?

and "m_bIsRotated" isnt updated

[modest fiber]

I'll start with pistols, then do rifles

[modest fiber]

https://vimeo.com/818016865

Not the results I want but hopefully i'll figure it out

[lyric wasp]

Very cool

[plucky hedge]

Looking forward as always to this one as well

[modest fiber]

From all my testing there doesn't seem to be a way to force guns to hand unfortunately

Also it doesn't work with rifles for some reason

Have to do more testing to figure it out

[young imp]

Don't stress too hard G

[proud oak]

nah bro work harder never give up

[lyric wasp]

Failure is unacceptable

[modest fiber]

@proud oak thanks for the confidence boost

[modest fiber]

https://vimeo.com/818867275?share=copy

Well I got it to work with rifles

[proud oak]

epic

[modest fiber]

@proud oak still not sure why i can't actually switch to the weapon after

[modest fiber]

Updated to include holstering of rifles and pistols. may add more later. Currently only one holster per type (rifle and pistol). Added keybinds

currently "," for primary and "." for secondary. XBOX players have to set their own keybinds until i get some input on what would be the best to use.

[lyric wasp]

Will we eventually get multiple holsters so I can carry 20+ handguns like this

[modest fiber]

@lyric wasp All of this will change when BI adds their own holster stuff, there are classes that already exist that will be used at some point. So I don't wanna go over the top just to have it all be useless.

[plucky hedge]

Will check it out this afternoon after I do some errands. Good work bud, as always.

Any way these can be put in the xbox quick radial menu?

[willow valve]

Xbox players can't set keybinds

[plucky hedge]

So get the lads together, brainstorm a button, I personally feel radial menu would be a good way of doing it.

@modest fiber does the pistol not come out and return to the holster when selecting it like a player would with just a standard pistol position?

[willow valve]

No need to brainstorm lol we have like 2 pairs of keybinds left that won't interfere with anything

[plucky hedge]

Which are? You say that like us modders (who are all using keyboard and mouse) should already know this answer, which, personally.. I don't? Post them and maybe he can set them up

[willow valve]

I was trying to be funny lol myb

[modest fiber]

Currently it just switches. Still in the struggle finding a way to actually make them go back into the hand

[proud oak]

how you doin it? have a look at WeaponSelectionMenu.c it handles switching weapon

it appears to require the weapon to be inside a WeaponSlotComponent

[young imp]

Would LB + Up on directional pad work as a possible keybind?

[spring sleet]

Used by my NVG mod no ? Or it’s RB + Up

[young imp]

That's RB + UP

For brightness

RB+ right for activation

[modest fiber]

I've tried like a different methods with no luck. I'll take a look in a couple hours when I get off work

#enfusion_scripting message

That's the current setup

[plucky hedge]

That issue of not returning to the hand could be related to the events inside the weapon animation possibly? Inside the pistol player anims, there is showweapon and hideweapon events. Is that possibly the issue?

Or whatever they are called. I recall them from when I created the P320.

[modest fiber]

Not too sure. The weird part is im doing it exactly how it's done elsewhere in the scripts

[plucky hedge]

Unsure mate. Was just a thought given what I saw back then.

[modest fiber]

I feel like there is a scripted update, that's not happening for me.

[proud oak]

what about replication? server is in charge of inventory

I have some time over the weekend for mods so maybe I can try to figure this out

[modest fiber]

It all replicates correctly

[plucky hedge]

Any further luck with the holstering system? Currently it works, but to put it back in the holster (visibly) it needs to be dragged out of the standard character holster?

[modest fiber]

@plucky hedge are you talking about the character preview not "refreshing"?

[plucky hedge]

No I mean when you swap from the pistol to another weapon, it disappears back to the standard character holster which is invisible. To have it appear back on your actual visible holster, it needs to be manually dragged back in the holster slot. I am assuming that the default holster is overriding your scripted one?

[modest fiber]

@plucky hedge oh yeah, I haven't added the functionality for all the checks yet. There are 6-8 that need to happen and currently iirc I only do 4.

I haven't done any mod work this weekend as I have family I'm celebrating with

But I'll work on it sometime this week

[plucky hedge]

No worries mate, I was just curious if I'd broken something. Got my pack done so will be a good test of how well I put it together based on inherited items from your base dependency. Be curious how it all works out.

[modest fiber]

@plucky hedge I'll check it out when I have time.

I haven't gotten up with @proud oak to see if he can help. I unfortunately just didn't have the time this weekend I can probably put in a few hours today.

[plucky hedge]

@modest fiber Did you end up setting up a keybind for console for the NVG's?

[willow valve]

Could not the one that's in the gpng one work?

[plucky hedge]

It could, but he hasn't set it. I might see if it is possible to do one via my mod until he does one. Will take a look at that when I start my hotfix today.

[willow valve]

Sweet!

[plucky hedge]

I will plug my controller in to test it on my end before uploading.

[plucky hedge]

I have reached out regarding some issues in the NVG side of your frame work. Similar issues to Greg's before all his additional checks were implemented.

[modest fiber]

What's the issues with dying? Everyone's NVGs reset if one person dies or what?

[plucky hedge]

Little follow up.

Appears to be fixed when someone dies.

They mentioned them not being saved on respawn and needing to drop them on the ground and equip to have functional anims.

Just passing on the direct feedback/issues as I am made aware bud.

[modest fiber]

@plucky hedge Should be fixed

[plucky hedge]

Which thing? Goggles don't save if on the helmet on respawn. Will check if the anim works without dropping first

[modest fiber]

Now when you die you lose the nvg effect. So upon respawn you'll have to flip them down

[plucky hedge]

Ah roger that, I'll pass on the info, thanks

[modest fiber]

I actually implemented that right after the first fix and forgot to publish. Woke up checked discord, so I got up and pushed that update real quick. Going back to bed. Lmk if everything works correctly

[plucky hedge]

Seems to work for me on a solo GM in game. Having said that not respawning with the goggles stops it anyway I would say. Will let you know if any other issues arise, thanks.

About the luminosity increase/decrease, is that something you'd look into in the future?

[modest fiber]

Yeah no worries

[modest fiber]

Armor slots maybe

[young imp]

Armour slots as in armour plates?

[modest fiber]

Yes

gotta do some testing to see what im working with but it may be possible

[young imp]

Are you a legend?!

[modest fiber]

In fact, I am.

But seriously though.

I've tried everything that everyone has said to get clothing to not lose their colliders when attached to the player

So they could be used as armors

Nothing works

but I realized that, if you shoot the flashlight thats attached to the players clothing they can take more shots

So it should be possible to make plates that use the metal physical material and get some protection for the player

[proud oak]

or try to intercept damage when a certain item is equipped and half it or something

[modest fiber]

@proud oak I like that idea but for immersion id really like replaceable plates of different types

[proud oak]

I mean you can do it and just have the plates apply different damage modifiers

you can intercept damage to the torso only as well for example instead of in general maybe

[modest fiber]

Did you finally determine a way to intercept damage?

[proud oak]

I got some leads but I didn't test it yet, will try over the weekend

[plucky hedge]

@modest fiber

Any ideas what could be causing the crash? Reported to me, seems to point at your framework?

[modest fiber]

When is that happening?

[plucky hedge]

@earnest dagger Can you report further please

[frank thicket]

You can turn on the night vision by just holding right d-pad, and not Right bumper + right d-pad….

[modest fiber]

I didn't keybind any inputs for xbox

[frank thicket]

Ah guess that’s a bug for aussie then

[plucky hedge]

Not my mod causing it but been informed it was not my fault after all.

[plucky hedge]

Follow up for you.

Asked for list of mods, nothing in response.

[young imp]

That's pronto pack that has different NVG controls

[plucky hedge]

I don't know Pronto, sounds like we need it set on the base framework as we have it set ourselves and evidently.. resulting in one overriding another.

[young imp]

Agreed, it would make things easier via keybinds and accessibility

[modest fiber]

Just let me know what the keybind should be and I'll add it after work

[young imp]

RB + RIGHT DPAD works really well

Thank you very much

[modest fiber]

Updated

[young imp]

Perfect! Thank you

[plucky hedge]

I will put out an update today to remove mine from the TF mattock. It was only ever going to be temporary

[modest fiber]

Pushed an update to include some null checks (in most cases these should never return null but somehow they do anyway)

[muted iron]

Is there a list of mods which use the new slots somewhere?

[modest fiber]

Not that I'm aware of

@plucky hedge and @inland crescent both use it I believe

[inland crescent]

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/5D2406F10C2EB852-104thGreyWolfGear

[modest fiber]

@plucky hedge Updated

had to change one variable name and one function call

[plucky hedge]

Roger.

[modest fiber]

took 2 seconds

thank god

[plucky hedge]

I'm still working on my guns, but your mod being fixed will streamline my clothing mod hopefully 🙂

[modest fiber]

clothing mod will work out of the box since mine is updated. Unless you're adding in your own custom classes and such

then it might have to be fixed

[plucky hedge]

I've gotta rebuild the arsenal but yeah, should be pretty well good to go after that. Thanks for the update 🙂

[modest fiber]

@plucky hedge Unrelated but i have an almost complete survival framework with exactly 50 custom scripts and only had to update a single component.

totally mindblown

[plucky hedge]

Lucky bastard lmao

[earnest dagger]

Pics?

[plucky hedge]

@modest fiber I'm not sure if you know or if I am doing something wrong, getting a spam of script errors for "wearaction" on all the ZEL clothing slots and also can't get the animation to work on the NVG, not even your base NVG prefab is animating. Dropped and picked up multiple times on the workbench which used to fix it.

[modest fiber]

What errors?

[plucky hedge]

RESOURCES : GetResourceObject @"{26A9756790131354}Prefabs/Characters/Factions/BLUFOR/US_Army/Character_US_Rifleman.et"
WORLD : Entity prefab load @"{26A9756790131354}Prefabs/Characters/Factions/BLUFOR/US_Army/Character_US_Rifleman.et"
RESOURCES : GetResourceObject @"{836E7E39AAC5888B}Prefabs/Characters/Factions/BLUFOR/US_Army/Character_US_Base.et"
WORLD : Entity prefab load @"{836E7E39AAC5888B}Prefabs/Characters/Factions/BLUFOR/US_Army/Character_US_Base.et"
RESOURCES : GetResourceObject @"{37578B1666981FCE}Prefabs/Characters/Core/Character_Base.et"
WORLD : Entity prefab load @"{37578B1666981FCE}Prefabs/Characters/Core/Character_Base.et"
RESOURCES : GetResourceObject @"{37578B1666981FCE}Prefabs/Characters/Core/Character_Base.et"
WORLD : Entity prefab load @"{37578B1666981FCE}Prefabs/Characters/Core/Character_Base.et"

To start off

This as well

RESOURCES : GetResourceObject @"{B148C9D405986203}Prefabs/Clothing/ZEL_NVG_Helmet_Base.et"
WORLD : Entity prefab load @"{B148C9D405986203}Prefabs/Clothing/ZEL_NVG_Helmet_Base.et"
WORLD (E): Unknown keyword/data 'WearAction' at offset 2039(0x7f7)

The goggle effect comes on and turns off, just can't get it to animate which it used to on the prefab with no changes. I'm heading out but wasn't sure if it's my end or your mod after the .98 changes.

Night.

[modest fiber]

i thoroughly tested and everything works correctly on my end

[inland crescent]

Yea we have been getting errors as well

[split pulsar]

Have you deleted the mod and redownloaded it?

[plucky hedge]

I did, had to to even get into Workbench. Will keep trying later today, I hope I am not going to have to rebuild all my prefabs again. I inherit from Zeliks base prefabs so I would have thought they would carry over.

The NVG animation breaking in workbench on even his base prefab has my head scratching itself as he said his works @modest fiber

[young imp]

The CIA SAD NVGs mod uses Gregs NVGs as a dependency

Perhaps that could be a clue to a potential workaround

[plucky hedge]

Didn't think he ever got his NVG working properly on MP.

The issue is that I can't disable the NVG from Zeliks mod, without turning it all off - it used to work 100% but now stopped.

As said, will keep digging.

Zelik yours still work in your workbench and you get no errors when you preview and test it all on a scene in your world editor preview? I also noted that it no longer picks up the input in the script debugger like it used to so something is breaking somewhere. I will load in with just your mod in workbench and test further, if it works on just your mod, something in the inherited prefabs is breaking it all.

Will let you know @modest fiber

[spring sleet]

Only « issue » with my mod is animation I know how to fix it but I don’t have time for it. They are working in MP

[plucky hedge]

You know how to fix the animation now but don't have time to change it, got ya.

That was what I meant by MP, I know you can turn em on and off etc but the animation was the only thing not working.

[spring sleet]

Last time I was working on it and it was on a good way so yes

[young imp]

Hey Greg, if you need any assistance for testing, I'm around and I'm sure the community wouldnt mind lending a hand on the console side as well

Future tense included*

[modest fiber]

@plucky hedgeYes everything on my side works fine

[modest fiber]

Actually it doesn't

Everything works fine in workbench

but i tried to load my mod up on a dedi and get errors pertaining to inheritance

as in, in modded classes the function don't seem to know about values in their predecessor

[plucky hedge]

OK, so hold until you know why? Have they changed the classnames or guid resulting in it breaking?

[modest fiber]

They've broken something

[plucky hedge]

Try pinging reyhard?

[modest fiber]

when modding the charactercamerahandlercomponent and overriding one of its functions

the function doesn't know about a variable in the original class

it also doesn't know what the typename auto is

though auto is used in vanilla code in a lot of places

[spring sleet]

Thank you if I need some testing I will let you know

[plucky hedge]

Any progress on this one?

[proud oak]

https://feedback.bistudio.com/T172052

same thing?

[modest fiber]

Nope. I don't get errors in workbench

Just when deploying a server

[modest fiber]

Well not sure exactly what is going on

as of today i can deploy to a server and not have any errors

[plucky hedge]

Then I have no idea. I load just your mod in workbench and not even your basic NVG animates. The console doesn't even show that the NVG signal is activating etc.

No idea why that is.

I will go back on tonight after work and delete your mod, reinstall it again and try workbench again.

I don't understand how you have no errors, yet my Workbench is throwing up console errors all over the place with just your mod on its own.

[modest fiber]

@plucky hedge are you busy atm?

[plucky hedge]

Literally getting ready for work.

[modest fiber]

damn

I was just gonna show you how everything looks on my end

[plucky hedge]

Short video of it would be all good as I can watch at work on break.

Gonna reinstall my game and workbench tonight as well as all mods, see if the issues persist on my end.

Sounding like it's just me with dramas.

[modest fiber]

@plucky hedge No need. Somewhere in one of the few updates i pushed trying to fix the other issues I lost my animations as well.

I think something messed up when altering the proc anim.

[plucky hedge]

I will anyway, I get spammed with errors on the wearaction. Still think it's my end on some of it.

[plucky hedge]

Hit me back if you solve it mate.

[modest fiber]

i don't quite know why the signal isn't getting found

[plucky hedge]

Did they change the way it calls to signals? I am not sure how, I know that Greg's anims work until you drop the helmet and then it stops working, so his call works until it drops. Not sure if that is somehow related to your issue post .98 but yeah.

[modest fiber]

Not 100 percent sure. I have to mess with it a bit more later on today.

[plucky hedge]

@modest fiber Any luck with your anims bud?

[modest fiber]

I have one more thing to try. And if that don't work then idk what the problem is

[candid lodge]

is there any way using your mod to add even more slots? out of curiosity

[modest fiber]

No my mod is released with a No Derivatives license. Meaning you can use it as a dependency but you can't modify the original contents.

[plucky hedge]

How did you go with your testing bud?

[modest fiber]

For some reason the function thats supposed to be called on the client when the rotation is updated isn't being called.

No one has got back to me as of why that might be happening since the patch

[plucky hedge]

If it's any help, it doesn't even recognise that the signal is happening.

Greg's fires to the signal, until you drop the helmet, then it stops recognising itself as well. Could be related but unsure. As said, may not be any help.

[modest fiber]

I originally thought that it wasn't getting the signal but it seems like it is from the prints I've used.

The rotation value for the signal is updating upon input

I may have only tested from server though

Maybe client isn't getting the signal. I've done so much testing what I don't remember that all I've done

[plucky hedge]

I have my prefabs, inheriting your prefabs, same as before .98 so anything you modify should update to me when I update the mod should it not?

[modest fiber]

Yeah

[plucky hedge]

@modest fiber
NULL pointer to instance
Class: 'ZEL_NVG'
Entity id:4611686018427400520
Function: 'ResetCameraPPEffects'
Stack trace:
scripts/Game/NVG/ZEL_NVG.c:169 Function ResetCameraPPEffects
scripts/Game/NVG/ZEL_NVG.c:136 Function OnSlotChanged
scripts/Game/generated/Components/InventorySystem/InventoryItemComponent.c:28 Function OnParentSlotChanged
Runtime mode

Not sure of steps to reproduce - apparently crashing random players - that's all the info I have mate.

[modest fiber]

Since there are animation issues and random errors I think I'm gonna completely rewrite the NVG entity

[plucky hedge]

Alright mate, will look forward to seeing your method/fix/rewrite whenever the time arrives.

[young imp]

Good luck Z

[proud oak]

any chance this is coming from this mod?

19:25:11.235 UpdateEntities
19:25:11.235  WORLD        : Frame
19:25:11.235   NETWORK      : PerformActions
19:25:11.235    DEFAULT   (E): InputActionManager @"ENTITY:4611686018427403214" ('SCR_ChimeraCharacter') at <4891.372070 28.599998 11767.998047> @"{26A9756790131354}Prefabs/Characters/Factions/BLUFOR/US_Army/Character_US_Rifleman.et" CharacterControllerComponent: Action: Trying to perform action CharacterAction_InspectionMode(-1) which wasn't queued

sometimes when we try inspecting a weapon we're kinda locked out of a lot of things after

[modest fiber]

I don't touch the character controller component

[proud oak]

hmm ok thank you

[proud oak]

Class:      'ZEL_NVG'
Entity id:4611686018427397338

Function: 'ResetCameraPPEffects'
Stack trace:
scripts/Game/NVG/ZEL_NVG.c:169 Function ResetCameraPPEffects
scripts/Game/NVG/ZEL_NVG.c:136 Function OnSlotChanged
scripts/Game/generated/Components/InventorySystem/InventoryItemComponent.c:28 Function OnParentSlotChanged

is this the correct thread to post this in?

[plucky hedge]

Reported the same error back on the 20th but good to see it's not just me getting the issue.

@modest fiber In case you missed bacons post.

[modest fiber]

I went through a whole AttachmentSlotComponent transition just to find out that attachmentslotcomponents that exist on clothing don't have access to the worn models Pivot IDs

[muted iron]

Are there any mods that add armbands to the Extra slots yet?

[plucky hedge]

Will be in my upcoming mod pack for the enemy force and conventional forces for the final piece of Task Force Mattocks puzzle.

But apart from that I don't know.

[muted iron]

Ohh nice. You always make good mods.
I think armbands are really immersive and a great way to avoid friendly fire without nametags

[inland crescent]

ENGINE (E): Addon 'GreyWolf' dependency '5D0551624969C92E' can't be added

[modest fiber]

@inland crescent

[earnest dagger]

hey there so idk why it wont replicate tbh

[modest fiber]

That's the problem

I can't fix it if I don't know exactly what's causing it

I'm about to do a complete rewrite of the nvgs

Should get to start on that in the next couple of days

[earnest dagger]

Yea I wish I could give you a better answer but there’s not any easy way to say what we’re doing consistently cuz it’s just random stuff an DC’s but I’m seeing it constantly

[lime viper]

This is what i get in my crash report

[young imp]

Hey Zelik
Will your mod be compatible to attach RHS NVGs?

[plucky hedge]

Nope, we aren't permitted to add any of their code due to the licence they are using.

You want RHS stuff you have to use RHS stuff or make their mod a dependency to be able to utilise their stuff. Can't use any of their code.

I can't see Zelik adding their mod as a dependency, his mod is for modders to build on, would be counter productive to force RHS to enable their stuff.

[young imp]

Yeah that makes sense.
Very sad as it splits such great creations but it is what it is

[earnest dagger]

Is it even possible to “own a code” I mean surely they just figured out how to script it in the engine?

[plucky hedge]

In other words, no copy pasting their code, each person has a different coding method/layout. It's generally distinctive.

[modest fiber]

You can in fact "own code" the problem lies in something only working one particular way and another person figuring that out and doing the same thing

[earnest dagger]

That’s what I’m worried about

[modest fiber]

@earnest dagger what part in particular?

[earnest dagger]

It being the only way to code something

[modest fiber]

What are you talking about coding?

If a mod is doing something that you want to do that doesn't mean you can't do it. You just can't copy anyone else's shit.

For instance. The only way to for nvgs to work is to set a post process effect to the camera. And anyone is allowed to do that.l but, they can't rip apart my mod and steal my code in order to do so.

@earnest dagger I'm not sure what RHS does with their nvgs, what functionality do they have that's so great?

[earnest dagger]

Looks like there gonna have IR lasers functioning to there specific NVG’s and having IR strobes on helmets. Would love to have that stuff in my pack

[modest fiber]

I already thought about lasers, just haven't gotten around to it.

Thermal is kinda already possible. Just haven't gotten around to testing

As far as strobes go. You'd only have those render for players who currently have nvgs active

[earnest dagger]

Which is preferred

[proud oak]

you have ownership of the specific code you write, but not the idea that it executes, so anyone else can go about it in a similar way, just cant copy and paste the code

[plucky hedge]

@modest fiber Any update on the rework of your NVG animation system? Or the error spam?

[modest fiber]

I should actually get to start on the rewrite this week

[proud oak]

I noticed when right clicking a mag or whatever inside a dead character it will drop the item to the ground instead of going to my inventory, is this relevant to this mod?

[modest fiber]

Not that I'm aware of. I hadn't messed with that stuff.

[proud oak]

correct, it is a vanilla "feature" - when you open a container in its own lil inventory box, right clicking items in it will remove them to the ground instead of picking them up, sorry!

[modest fiber]

@proud oak no worries man

[plucky hedge]

@modest fiber Hey man, not sure if you are planning to update to the new stable build or if you're scrapping this mod (for your other framework you keep speaking about), if you could let me know your plans so that I know if I need to revert my mods to no longer use your mod as a dependency.

[modest fiber]

Character mod will be updated as soon as I get off work @plucky hedge

[modest fiber]

@plucky hedge I had to add one extra slot but update is pushed

[plucky hedge]

NVG helmets completely removed - scrapped it all completely apart from the scripts? Also noticed the holster sling removed?

[modest fiber]

Yes they don't belong in a character mod, will make an equipment mod.

[shy otter]

so i cant put my pistol in a hostler

[plucky hedge]

Not anymore. The scripts are still thre but they don't seem to communicate if the components are used in the prefabs. I had a quick go at enabling them again but no joy in my limited time I tried.

[plucky hedge]

@modest fiber Any idea on timeline for your 1.0 build?

[modest fiber]

As soon as I get off work

[lime viper]

Real wish it would come back with the old way it was but we know your busy. We appreciate all you do man thank you. We all appreciate you.

[modest fiber]

@plucky hedge Done

[plucky hedge]

Have you been having any progress on restoring your NVG and/or holstering? I think you mentioned about making a separate equipment mod but can't find the post about it