AH-64D Apache

[final lintel]

The AH-64D, also known as the Apache Longbow, is an advanced attack helicopter used primarily by the United States Army. It is designed for reconnaissance, close air support, and anti-tank warfare.

The AH-64D features a tandem seating arrangement for the pilot and co-pilot/gunner, with both crew members sitting in armored seats and protected by armored glass windshields. The helicopter is equipped with advanced avionics and weapons systems, including a Target Acquisition and Designation System (TADS) and a Pilot Night Vision Sensor (PNVS) for enhanced situational awareness and target acquisition in day and night conditions.

The AH-64D is armed with a 30mm M230 chain gun mounted under the nose, as well as a variety of missiles, rockets, and bombs.

Overall, the AH-64D is a highly capable and versatile attack helicopter that has proven itself in numerous conflicts around the world. Its advanced avionics and weapons systems, coupled with its speed and agility, make it a formidable weapon on the battlefield.

Pretty obviously still a work in progress but here you go!
Made to be a direct counter to the Mi-24 this beast will most likely Level the playing field.
So far only Hydras and the 30mm chaingun function.

[wintry gulch]

is the irl apache capable of locking gunner turret at a ground target? I vaguely remember something like this

[deft oriole]

Fucking awesome 💪

[final lintel]

It has an inertia based system but does not have a contrast lock, Unless it is targeting using the radar

[hushed grail]

Is this on the workshop yet or still in heavy development?

[wintry gulch]

oh ok I might have confused it with something like a drone camera, there was a white square at the center or something and seemed to stay pointed when the vehicle was moving

[final lintel]

The sight is stabilised

[hushed grail]

I'm at work so I can't check. Is this still too WIP to release or is the base version with the chain gun and hydras out?

[wintry gulch]

the gun is not 360 rotation right? limited similar to the hind

[final lintel]

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/5CCCC1DFB9C93581-AH-64DApache

[final lintel]

Correct it does not rotate all the way around
Technically the sight on the front acts as a targeting system most of the time but the gun can also be slaved to the gunner or pilot's helmet

[wintry gulch]

sounds like an interesting project getting that to work

[final lintel]

Yea...
It's not super necessary

[wintry gulch]

well the helmet stuff is probably not of much value but gun stabilization is important for the gunner not to lose their mind

although tbh displaying some form of hud on a helmet/camera in general seems like it's just a UI layout

[fringe hedge]

Fucking awesome its finally here can’t wait to see it in game!!!

[sacred wharf]

Very nice Mr. Strider! does the camera have some form of zoom function?

[final lintel]

No zoom on vehicles still

[sacred wharf]

Darn, still nice to see a chaingun on a helicopter! In the description you mention gun stabilization, have you done this by calculating the rotation then ''applying'' it to the gun in reverse?

I heard that it would be a tad janky in MP ut its better than trying to deal with some people's flying XDDD

[final lintel]

No stab atm

[sacred wharf]

I see love the work though

[spiral berry]

Holy crap man, your just a straight up powerhouse, from one mod to the next your an absolute legend and i dont know how you do man, keep up the amazing work dude because this shit is 🔥👍

[final lintel]

But it's HEDP so it is quite hard to miss
Plus this thing flys very stable

[spiral berry]

Im gonna have to fly this thing when i get my feckin arma working

[sacred wharf]

She's sexy ain't she

[fringe hedge]

I noticed tht and I love it

[fringe hedge]

Very my good sir

[sacred wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/loving-it-ishqbaaaz-karan-khanna-ib-gif-13829656

[jovial flicker]

It's beautiful 😍

[dawn hornet]

^^^

To be fair if there’s no genuine stabilisation you could just set the zoom to 1x to make it relatively easier to identify and engage onto targets

[wintry gulch]

there's a couple ways you can try to stabilize it via script

zoom not working in turreted weapons is really weird

[final lintel]

If you are out of the sights your character will look at where the gun is pointing

[dawn hornet]

So if you’re on the gunner seat and you look at something in first person it will aim there?

[void oak]

Damn.

Great job to everyone involved 🔥

[final lintel]

As long as you are not free looking
It's more like you can move the turret without aiming down sights

[dawn hornet]

Damn, i didn’t expect that to be added so that’s neat, great stuff as always

[final lintel]

It looks like AI can shoot the gun as well but they are pretty bad shots

[fringe hedge]

Lmao

[final lintel]

Realistically the big things that I need to do are textures, damage model, and screens

[dawn hornet]

What if you set the AIs accuracy at high?

[wintry gulch]

it doesn't matter, AI is just bad at firing turrets right now

are there plans for trying to stabilize turrets in any of the vehicle mods? land and air

[final lintel]

I would like to but I am not very skilled at programming in reforger

[wintry gulch]

it feels like at some point it'll come into vanilla seeing as there are already toggles and dropdowns for it, just not functional

I had a look at zoom in vehicle optics and it seems like such a weird bug, the FOV information is all there but the camera doesn't react to it at all, this rustles my jimmies

[clever rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-its-beautiful-gif-14598256

[icy horizon]

It’s about time for this thing ngl

[final lintel]

It's low key completely broken and unbalanced already
If I end up adding hellfires in the future you best bet the enemy team will need some sam sites

[spiral berry]

Question mr strider, is there any plan to still continue on HMAS Adelaide

[final lintel]

What's wrong with it/What do you want done with it?
I'm taking some time to go back to my old mods to fix them

[spiral berry]

I was just wondering because i thought there was going to be another version where you can drive it is all, but by all means take your time no need to rush, you've been doing a great job with all these vehicles recently👍

[fringe hedge]

So if u delete and place a new one it keeps the old lights in the same place causing the server to lag

[final lintel]

Thanks, I can fix that

I really really want to get the whole interior modelled so everyone can go and clear it

[fringe hedge]

Yea I added a bunch a cargo containers one OP to add different experience for my guys but like Reapingvulture said no biggie at all these new vehicles are badass homie 🫡

[scarlet coral]

Is this out now?

[thorn rampart]

tbf i feel like the bmp is now a sam site lol

[fringe hedge]

Facts

[wintry gulch]

shooting helicopters with tank cannons is my favorite arma thing so I'll be doing that a lot

[scarlet coral]

@torn badger my beloved

[final lintel]

Honestly the biggest thing I fear in a apache is the BTR 82A

[wintry gulch]

one downside to attack helicopters is the very short view distance

[thorn rampart]

never fear a man who has nothing to lose

[final lintel]

I would argue the view distance is longer than previous titles

[torn badger]

@final lintel I love you

[wintry gulch]

even if your view distance is 5000 (max), enemies on a server won't render beyond 600 m by default

[final lintel]

Does increasing the server view distance cause issues?

[wintry gulch]

the 600m network one? well, it takes a little longer for players to spawn, and potentially lower end machines need to care about tracking more things

but overall I would be interested in testing an extreme value on one of my servers

there's also the thing where the view distance (the non-network one) is different between xbox and pc and you might end up with situations where pc players can shoot xbox players from positions they can't be seen (assuming the item is loaded on network)

[spiral berry]

By chance are you ever going to plan on adding like a hud for pilots and gunners, so like in first person when you enter pilot, co pilot, gunner seat ect, a HUD appears telling you where middle is and maybe crosshairs and all that fancy stuff

[thorn rampart]

its just a very danger close mission then lol

[final lintel]

I would like to but have no clue how to

[wintry gulch]

I'll do a view distance stress test over the weekend and see when performance degrades, xbox series s folks are especially welcome (drop me a dm if you'd like to help)

[fringe hedge]

Rn we’re waiting on the weapon system update from the devs them self bc it adds it base game

[spiral berry]

Ight

[final lintel]

When was this announced?

[wintry gulch]

its on the roadmap, one of the later milestones

[spiral berry]

Just hooe that second major update comes around june or before is all because they taking a while to finish this current major update

[final lintel]

Can't read that but I'll trust

[fringe hedge]

Well TBH there not following the milstones any more

[spiral berry]

Oh what?

[fringe hedge]

The next update be should destruction system or the revive system

[fringe hedge]

The milstones

[spiral berry]

Ok, just kind of wished they stuck to the milestone system because that was simple

[fringe hedge]

Thts arma 😭

[final lintel]

They are keeping everything that is in the milestones

[fringe hedge]

Yea there just not following the path pretty much adding what they want atm and what’s available

[thorn rampart]

i want ma ambulances

[torn badger]

Are the avionics gonna work in the future? @final lintel

[final lintel]

Yes

[scarlet coral]

Are you excepting kisses?

[final lintel]

No, too risky

[fringe hedge]

😭😭😭

[torn badger]

Strider making my dreams come true

[fringe hedge]

Facts homie just keeps dropping mod after mod. He is indeed a mad scientist 🫡

[spiral berry]

Da feck🧐

[final lintel]

I honestly hope it's AI driving

[fringe hedge]

AI driving is gonna be scary TBH

[final lintel]

AI BMP3

[torn badger]

AI Apache

[fringe hedge]

Bro don’t even tht Shi would be terrifying

[spiral berry]

Right like when this coming man

[scarlet coral]

Hugs it is

[final lintel]

Ai helicopters crashes when I enable it

[fringe hedge]

🗿🗿thts just woah

[final lintel]

Oh also base game helicopters so I can know what I am doing wrong

[torn badger]

Hopefully they get released this year

[fringe hedge]

Yea I figured tht it’s help alot of modders bc it adds the script base game same with the helicopter weapon system

[fringe hedge]

It will give it like 2 months. It’ll buff out

[torn badger]

I’m praying for that update 🥹

[fringe hedge]

Same it’s gonna open so more doors for modders to make different things / add different things

[dry dagger]

please do not derail this thread as well

[fringe hedge]

Aye sir 🫡🫡

[torn badger]

@final lintel was the model expensive?

[tender quest]

Sick

[final lintel]

Around $80

Not too bad
The textures didn't work tho and I had to texture it

[wintry gulch]

80 bux with interior?

[final lintel]

Yarp

[wintry gulch]

wtf

[fringe hedge]

Sheeeeessh I wouldve paid u $300 for a model bruh

[wintry gulch]

I don't know where to post this but I have about $160 worth of credit on cgtrader if anyone needs a discounted model (it only covers up to 30% though)

[final lintel]

The model I really wanted was exorbitant in price and had a editorial only license :/

[gritty grail]

Can they not be used if they have the editorial thing cause I was looking at a model that has it

[final lintel]

That is correct
If you really want the model you could message the creator and ask them to sell it under another license

[wintry gulch]

there's a chance they might switch it, I've spoken to a couple creators that didn't even know the license

[gritty grail]

Alright I probably won't buy it but good to know for in the future

Or I might ask him to switch it. It was a very nice model and only 30 dollars

[bronze snow]

The BMP is now a fat juicy target for the Apache

[tender quest]

I need help for the CH-53 pavelow 😂

[umbral river]

amazing, i’ve been waiting for this

[wispy vale]

ye

[distant ravine]

👍

[trail socket]

All I need is the AH-1S lol

[sharp sable]

AH-1Z?

[trail socket]

I like the cobras better

[sharp sable]

I feel like for the Cobra you could use the AH-1Z and get away with it, but since there are so many modern marine Milsims the Viper is probably in higher demand

[vital lily]

on dcs they added an image auto track feature for the ah64d (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG2fRltdpaw&ab_channel=Matt"Wags"Wagner) since they tend to be a quite accurate simulator, id say you can allow yourself to add this feature too

[clever rivet]

Will this be added to the hind?

[fluid goblet]

If you ever need close ups in the interior of one, hit my line. Lol @final lintel

[trail socket]

Yeah my unit is based in the 90s so we would use the S

[solid crow]

Not always 🚧 you have to read the editorial license language as some editorial use allows for free asset usage as long as no monetary gain is had. 60%+ of editorial licenses allow this usage

The term editorial use scares people away yet would probably fall under proper usage for the model

[tall sable]

not sure if this has been reported yet but getting out of the gunner seat your items sometimes drop to your feet

[unkempt geyser]

Thank you for the contributions to the Reforger community.

[sharp sable]

Strider do be based

[willow torrent]

[cobalt wedge]

This thing is a monster 🚬

[clever rivet]

Another w handed out to strider

[gritty grail]

What mod are you using to get the lights so nice in the hangar shit is beautiful

[final lintel]

That’s just base gams point lights

[gritty grail]

Damn looked like relight or sum

[dawn hornet]

Just to clarify, im 99% sure the last photo is real 😂

[gritty grail]

I'm talking about the original pic that one above is definitely real

[vivid creek]

@final lintel is the ammo for the AH-64 the same as the dragoon 30mm?

[lethal hedge]

It shouldn’t be the AH64 uses HEDP or HEI, the dragoon uses HEI-T or dart rounds

[final lintel]

I have not yet added the ammo to the arsenal

[unkempt geyser]

Feels good.

[sharp sable]

Damn that’s some high flying @unkempt geyser

[green fox]

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/7AJV3PRW4D

I recorded this a week ago, I don’t know how the AI did it but they (tried to lol) returned to where I placed them on the carrier.

[south pollen]

When it is very bright in game it is very hard to see threw the glass inside the cockpit

[stoic ridge]

They don’t crash the entire game anymore?

[tender quest]

@final lintel flies like an absolute dream

[umbral river]

prays for an auto hover mode that would be so dope

[torn badger]

Hovering isn’t hard

[umbral river]

i know but hovering perfectly without drift is

[torn badger]

Just gotta get comfortable and know how the airframe handles

[hushed grail]

It's easiest to do it with the Apache by far

[final lintel]

New rivets

[torn badger]

@final lintel looking good bro

[final lintel]

Changelog:
Added MOAB

[hushed grail]

Added what now
Dont tell me you strapped a bigass bomb to the apache

[umbral river]

jesus MOAB

[gritty grail]

Yeah doesn't that thing have to be c 130 delivered

[final lintel]

Real changelog:
Added rockets and chaingun ammo to arsenal
Added rivets
Reduced file size
Improved TADS material
Improved colliders

[gritty grail]

It would be sick if they added a moab to game master fx

[wintry gulch]

I'll add more powerful explosions when you can actually destroy things

[umbral river]

should add like bombing runs and gun runs to game master fx that would be dope

[wintry gulch]

no plans for that

[hushed grail]

Think you can make the HinDs rockets available in the arsenal?
Maybe the little birds too, if its not already?

[final lintel]

It's planned

[left pewter]

What’s a MOAB?

[hushed grail]

Massive Ordinance Air Burst
Also nicknamed the Mother of All Bombs
It is the single, largest explosive known to man, short of a nuclear weapon

And now they jury rigged one to an apache

[left pewter]

I can’t seem to see it in game?

[hushed grail]

Whats the difference between the Longbow and the Mk 1 variants?

[gritty grail]

Nuke

[tender quest]

I think it was a joke

[hushed grail]

Dead Server*

[left pewter]

I was thinking that at first

[fringe hedge]

U done added a big ass bomb??

[final lintel]

It was a joke.

[hushed grail]

^

[fringe hedge]

Damn bruh

[fringe hedge]

Can’t be doin me like tht. But imagine lmao

Also will the screens on the inside ever work like legitimately?

[final lintel]

Its British
Built in tea kettle and roundel on the tail

[hushed grail]

I see, apart of the British pack?

[final lintel]

Hopefully

[solid crow]

@final lintel is there any chance of reducing the yellow dirt/ sun glare glass material for better forward views out of cockpit. I think that glow is supposed to simulate sun glare but unfortunately it’s on the whole time and across the entirety of the glass instead of a reflection

Is this targeting system not feasible for the gunner position in the 64?
I know this is something completely different but something like the system that is used here could be epic for the Apache gunner
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M_nqrYWkeIg

[distant ravine]

He's going for clu targeting

[solid crow]

I should have said “a similar targeting system rather than “this” targeting system.

[fringe hedge]

@solid crow if u read from the beginning it’s been stated it’s gonna get a different weapon system in the future

[distant ravine]

Would it be the gunner who guides the missile?

[fringe hedge]

It guide it’s self

Hints ATGMS

[distant ravine]

My b I meant that as in he shoots it

[fringe hedge]

The ATGMS would be fired by the pilot

The gunner only use the 30mm attached underneath the Apache

Bc IRL the ATGMS would be fired from the pilot

[distant ravine]

That makes sense, I was just curious if the gunner would be given more weapon control

[fringe hedge]

It really depends to TBH you also have to figure that the gunner really only can shoot the gun underneath him

[distant ravine]

Yeah, sorry I'm just used to playing battlefield and the gunner could shoot atgms in that game

[fringe hedge]

Well it’s also battlefield the game when u can jump out ur plane shoot a RPG at someone then jump back in ur plane

[distant ravine]

¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[twilit yew]

The AH-64D Apache attack helicopter has a two-seater tandem cabin. The pilot (PLT) is sitting in the back, co-pilot/gunner (CPG) is in the front. Their cockpits duplicate most of the on-board instruments. Both of them can also perform almost all the duties of the other crew member, although this is usually the case in emergency situations. In practice, the CPG only pilot the machine when the pilot is incapable of doing so, e.g. due to sustained wounds. The pilot operates the 30mm gun and Hydra unguided missiles, and the CPG operates the Hellfire guided missiles and the TADS target identification and targeting system, as well as the FCR radar.

[distant ravine]

Oh shi so I was not necessarily wrong

[fluid goblet]

Not quite, pilot is more focused on getting birds on target and using rocket systems, the copilot uses the non-fixed free control target systems IE, the 30 mike and the hellfire

[fluid goblet]

So close but not quite

[scarlet coral]

@final lintel what’s up with the dirtiness of the cockpit? Very hard to see at times

[final lintel]

Part of it is the model and part of it is just me needing to optimise

[vivid creek]

@final lintel I am hoping the FGM-148 Javelin gets straightened out, because it would set up nicely for hell fires and the like.

[grim mica]

Hey so I just uploaded the apache for my server to 1.0.2 and now the server won't start with memory leak crash. I put it back to previous version and it's fine anyone else having that issue?

[fringe hedge]

Works fine for my server

[final lintel]

I may still have some missing texture issues that I need to sort out

[grim mica]

Could you possibly dm a pic of the mods on your server just so I can narrow down which mod is conflicting because this is the second mod that is having issues on my server with vehicles

[fringe hedge]

I personally don’t do the mods my modder does I jus know it doesn’t crash’s the server

[grim mica]

Lol well could you maybe get your modder in touch with me?

[fringe hedge]

@final lintel for some the 30mm does not reload even if it has ammo in it.

[final lintel]

Are you using the ammo for the apache or the ammo for the dragoon?

[fringe hedge]

For the Apache

[versed island]

This was probably already mentioned, but the nose is super heavy

Making it nearly impossible to take off without flipping over lol

[spice kite]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[versed island]

Yeah, it seems to been fixed or something. But yeah, I’ve also noticed it whilst landing

[fringe hedge]

So it says it has ammo but when I reload it won’t just makes reloading sounds

[final lintel]

Changelog:
Fixed turret reloading

[final lintel]

Seems the update failed, attempting to remedy

[scarlet coral]

Kiss?

[torn badger]

Ayo

[scarlet coral]

You can get in on this too

[queen musk]

wow we got an Apache now, nice!

[mighty garden]

Is there Ammo in the ammunition/ U.S Arsenal box??? I can only find the ammo for the 30mm on the JLTV and dragoon.

[fringe hedge]

I believe it’s toward the end

[mighty garden]

It's not their for me I don't the the 30x113m M230

[fringe hedge]

🤔 hmm have u tried other arsenals maybe?

[mighty garden]

Yeah i did, didn't find it, maybe one of my mods are conflicting with it????

[fringe hedge]

Could be do u has RHS

[mighty garden]

Yeah I have RHS enabled

[fringe hedge]

I found they mess with alot of are mods

[mighty garden]

I hope that's not the case cause it's annoying to have the GM spawn us a new heli everytime the 30 runs out of ammo

Gonna test it rn, disabling RHS to see if it will be there

[fringe hedge]

It was pretty annoying my air crew guys were bitching a lot lmao

[mighty garden]

I don't blame them lol I rather resupply the helicopters than have the GM spawn a new one

[fringe hedge]

Same with rockets I can have them RTB for a resupply. It just gives them a more realistic experience

[mighty garden]

Yeah, I disabled RHS and it's still not in the box so I don't know what it is

[fringe hedge]

Interesting

[mighty garden]

I'm just gonna wait and see what space strider says maybe he know or something idk

[fringe hedge]

Maybe hopefully u can get it fixed

[mighty garden]

Yeah

[grim mica]

Ok so I removed the little bird from my server and was able to update the apache

[final lintel]

Something would be overwriting it

[mighty garden]

For the ammo to show in the arsenal???

[stoic ridge]

How do u reload the 30mm? I’ve loaded the ammo into it but it shows an empty magazine

[hushed grail]

Turret inventory, not the trunk

[final lintel]

I don't think the update to fix it has been pushed yet
I kept having issues uploading

[stoic ridge]

I put in the trunk

[grim mica]

Is the update going to allow the little bird and apache at the same time on the afghan map?

[dawn hornet]

The Apache works well in the afghan map, the stryker and little bird doesn’t seem to

[willow torrent]

server i play on has all helis on afghan no problem

[ornate edge]

I use the Hind, AH-6, Black Hawk, Apache, and Chinook and they all work fine no issues at all on Afghan

[wintry gulch]

when the heli is on fire it does not damage the crew, right?

[cobalt wedge]

Same here, all of the helis seem to work pretty well with each other

[tropic trout]

Can you add a sight for apache pilot @final lintel

[final lintel]

It does 2 damage per tick

[final lintel]

I would need to figure out a way to do the helmet mounted sight

[scarlet coral]

Greatness is upon us

[tropic trout]

u could just add like holo sight like on planes to the dashboard area

[tropic trout]

like in wt @final lintel

[ornate edge]

Maybe that could be a helmet added to the 3rd Ranger pack? Apache helmet

[final lintel]

Changelog:
Added Decals
Fixed turret reloading
Reduced Hydra magazine weight

[brittle schooner]

Amazing stuff that you have done with the choppers. Thanks! I understand evertyhing is WIP, but I got curious to ask. I'm flying with a stick (with x360ce) and the gut feeling is that the helos are too light (or the engine is OP). The Apache and other big choppers react as quickly as the Little Bird which feels unnatural. Is there a way to increase the weight and affect the flight model due to the weight increase?

[daring juniper]

Hi there. Great job @final lintel !
I have discovered one thing that I would like to share with you: When an AI is used as a gunner, he always aims way too high.
In MH60, the Gunners always shoot very exact.
I play on Xbox and have experienced this in the local GM.

[wintry gulch]

I wouldn't worry too much about AI in turrets, they are not very good with it yet

there's an issue with both detection and aiming, so some changes to AI need to happen in the future

[umbral river]

wanted to see if there would be a way to add tick marks to the gunner seat reticle? the range on the gun is amazing but it’s guess work after a certain point

[serene plume]

Stabilise the 30mm cannon or add some sort of stabilisation

[fringe hedge]

There isn’t any stability yet bc the script doesn’t work until it’s added base game

[serene plume]

Ah alright fair enough

[wintry gulch]

in my experiments the biggest issue was lag in multiplayer making the turret a little choppy anyway, the question then is if "somewhat" stabilized is good enough for now and worth the time

[hushed grail]

clip of what you mean?

[wintry gulch]

vehicles tend to stutter in multiplayer when moving, and then so does the turret, even if it's trying to stabilize

[hushed grail]

I see

[umbral river]

i feel like i said previously, if possible, an auto hover where the aircraft is completely stable mid air would reduce this at least from a hovering standpoint

[serene plume]

Apache updated

[wintry gulch]

but here's the thing, is a stuttery but more stable turret better than not stabilized at all?

[sage hull]

Just hover the acft. It’s not that hard to get a goof enough hover for the gunner to shoot. Although hovering is not the best idea with the AA and players with rockets. But you can solve that by masking and unmasking

[umbral river]

not sure how many times i have to state this, yes it’s not hard i understand that but it’s also a major feature of the apache not to mention it’s nearly impossible to hover without drift

[sage hull]

Being able to hit trim and hover the bird by itself is not one of the major features. It is a feature but not a major one. And when I do hovers their pretty close to prefect granted their will be drift but not that much and so little that the gunner won’t notice

[final lintel]

I'm not adding it until it is official implemented

[umbral river]

sometimes i forget just how perfect you are Oskar

[sage hull]

I think this is our first time meeting?

[ornate edge]

It’s not that hard to hover it lol, yes auto hover is a thing but it’s not that hard to hover it

[sharp sable]

Either way it’s not something he said no to, strider is just saying it’s not within the engine yet and there are probably better things for him to work on with the Apache for the time being, so we’ll just be stuck with what Bohemia allows until some major updates

[sage hull]

Work on the model please 😩

[cobalt wedge]

I mean, the Apache damn near hovers itself already

[south pollen]

Just a skill issue

[torn badger]

Skill issue

[umbral river]

pretty sure you guys can’t read

[south pollen]

It’s just a skill issue🤷‍♂️

[umbral river]

take a video of someone hovering with zero drift

continuing to comment dumb things like this to bait me honestly won’t work, i’m not really interested in your opinion, i’m interested in making suggestions to make this game better. have a good one little buddy

[crisp mantle]

It’s not really that hard to hover in the Apache(at least with a controller)

[cobalt wedge]

I mean, YOU as the pilot control drift

Sorry the whirly birdy doesn't fly for you lol

[tender quest]

@final lintel did your Apache come with a flight helmet?

[final lintel]

No, it would be from R3D core

[tender quest]

Oh nooooooo

It broke MP anyone that wears it, it deafens Audio for everyone in server

[final lintel]

We are working on fixing the audio issues
It’s fixed internally

[tender quest]

That doesnt seem to help anyone externally it would seem

[willow torrent]

Just wear aussies for the time being

[tender quest]

It’s a big mistake when ya know it a conflict server

[final lintel]

It was something we could not test without posting it very easily

[tender quest]

Ah yea that sucks then I probably should have not updated it then lol

[shy tendon]

How do we reload the chopper on xbox

[sharp sable]

Replace it

[final lintel]

You should be able to put one of the magazines from the arsenal into the turret inventory
Rocket magazines are also there and can be placed in each pod
All magazines should be carried in a backpack

[shy tendon]

Thank you Strider.

[serene plume]

@final lintel You fix the redline core mod?

[final lintel]

Should be fixed

[serene plume]

Sweet

[wintry gulch]

how do you aim the rocket pods? are there no aiming instruments for the pilot?

[final lintel]

It’s helmet mounted sights
Something I need to figure out

[serene plume]

Also very blurry on the inside

[dawn hornet]

Perhaps as a temporary fix add a red dot/Holo/Any sight for the pilot and have the rockets converge to a certain distance.

Heres an idea i drew up. The left two pods would rely on the left and middle line and the right two pods would rely on the middle and right two lines

[sharp sable]

What helicopter cockpit is that?

[deft oriole]

☝️is that reforger? ☝️

[dawn hornet]

I just took any pic of an AH-64 cockpit online and slapped my sight idea on it. I believe its from DCS

[deft oriole]

Haha i wasn't sure
Having the apache cockpit looking like that would be fucking epic

[solid crow]

Literally just put this in a fixed position where rocket will converge as a temporary fix till proper scripting let’s us do more-

All we need is a temporary fix and it would be as simple as the unguided indicator there I posted and it would fix everyone’s issues

Put some “HUD” glass on the area you want it to show and it’ll be good enough till we get the means to do helmet hud going

[wintry gulch]

you can definitely do actual HUD type stuff in the game or at least I'm 99% sure you can, but something basic like this is enough for a start

[clever rivet]

Wouldn't it be like a laser? It has some sort of effect where it shows where the point of impact is?

[wintry gulch]

you can do it a couple ways:

• UI on your screen similar to how your ammo counter works - it's just a UI/layout widget
• UI projected onto a 3d model such as a helmet visor or something that is in front of your face, sniper scopes work this way - they project a GUI layout on the glass of the optic, so do the same thing but on something like a floating visor etc

[ornate edge]

Theoretically couldn’t the Red Line helmet be made to where it can take an attachment being the weapon sight similar to a physical weapon in the game? Then it would work just like a regular sight. Could be wrong I’m no coder lol

[wintry gulch]

not really, but you can make the turret aim where you are looking if that's what you mean

[ornate edge]

Nah I was just theorizing if you could make the helmet take attachments and code the gun sight as a scope for the pilot but disregard that if you can’t

[wintry gulch]

unfortunately attachments on clothes are cursed, but you can fake it in other ways with the same perceived end result

[tropic trout]

Like NVGs?

[wintry gulch]

current modded NVGs are a post process effect so not really applicable

[sharp sable]

I think the floating visor would be the most practical, probably less likely to bug with other things, and you could just set it to be associated with being in the pilot seat as some kind of condition

[wintry gulch]

yep, turn it on when "engine starts"

[twilit yew]

There is a Monocle that you could utilize if it helps

[dry dagger]

there is no issue in terms of knowledge with how the real system work, but how same systems can be encoded/scripted/modeled ingame…

[twilit yew]

Ok I'm just the kid with absolutely no knowledge on how to fix the car looking in the engine compartment cause everyone else is

[wintry gulch]

eh you don't really need to make it 100% like the real thing, don't need to make it DCS-level too

[fringe hedge]

I just want a decent aiming point or a working HUD for the heli

[sharp sable]

I think adding the helmet as a seperate object for the sake of the hud would be problematic if you were wearing it outside of the helicopter, sounds like the kind of thing that would Spaz out the server

[dry dagger]

arma3 levels would suffice :))

[final lintel]

What was done in A3?

[sharp sable]

I think arma 3’s kind of just looked like BF4

[weary turtle]

This was in some Pawnee Little bird CAS, i still find funny the marker on the cockpit window

[dry dagger]

https://youtu.be/RXxB0A85bmY

[final lintel]

oh joy

[dry dagger]

the separate ah64d mod took it a whole lot further

https://youtu.be/G7itb8aH-b8

[sage hull]

Any thoughts on adding flechte rocket?

Would be cool to have a 4 to 12 flechte load for two pods

Although I guess their isn’t a way to choose individual loaded rockets. But having one pod for flechte will give the pilot more targets in a ground engagement till missile are worked out

[wintry gulch]

those monocle things look pretty fun

[sage hull]

Their called IHADS

they are really funky to look threw but you get used to them

[wintry gulch]

I like how the a3 one is just a jpeg

you can do the same thing in reforger

[pulsar hollow]

This isn't gonna be a war thunder case right??? Lmaooo

You ain't showing anything classified as cool as that'd be lmaooo

[sage hull]

No I know what I can and can’t show

[pulsar hollow]

Lol okay I was just making a joke, about war thunder thanks for what ya do man got a pretty bad ass job. Maybe we can get together sometime an I can be your gunner and you can show me a trick or 2

[fluid goblet]

That’s far from right

[solid crow]

If your referring to the indicator you are correct it is showing to the right of center but I needed a clear view of said indicator to show lol

[fluid goblet]

Bro it’s still not right, there no heads up display on the Apache, you look through the optic and the optic has the display on it, it’s not like a F-35 helmet display

[solid crow]

Did you gloss over my post saying it would be a temporary fix and that it’s not on the actual aircraft and it would help temporarily till the helmet HUD is a thing cause I’m thinking that’s probably what happened here and some reading was not done.

[sage hull]

You in Alaska?

Are you a yankee?

[fluid goblet]

Sadly and yes @sage hull

[fluid goblet]

Fair point but still, if you know where the rockets hit from the pilot seat, does it really need one that’s half assed? Also It’s a rocket, it’s quite difficult to miss your shot.

[solid crow]

The short answer is yes for so many people besides myself. Kudos to your piloting and aiming skills but your not the norm since a lot of us would love some sort of temporary if possible hud or targeting system.
I can’t imagine any Apache pilot saying “you know what my hud is down on this CAS danger close scenario I’ll just wing it” lol

[dry dagger]

it's a WIP asset

[fluid goblet]

^

[dry dagger]

it will be worked on (most likely) and improved upon, and depending on how the author wants to deal with it (proper HUD, made up marker/collimator etc) you will get one or another option, no reason to argue over it

[solid crow]

Not at all arguing here simply responding to someone who tagged me thanks boss 🤘🏼

[solid crow]

Not sure where this was misunderstood or taken as if it wasn’t understood lol
Just stating ideas for temporary solutions and had to respond since I was tagged by someone who didn’t even read my post all the way through lol

[dry dagger]

these sort of temp solutions might not be what the author would want to do. I understand these sort of post, but generally speaking a mod author is more aware than its users in regards to the limitations and bugs of his addon (especially one that is heavy WIP)

and since there is no actual heli model made and encoded by BI to figure out some of these things, there is also a matter of trial and error and figuring out how to do certain things

[solid crow]

For sure boss I’m with you on this journey your laying out I was just offering like MANY others temporary options to try IF they wanted to.
The efforts made to make this mod work are substantial and very appreciated. Let’s not make a issue where there never was one is where this should have ended but I was just replying to a post I was tagged in so your barking up the wrong tree here and I’m going to end it at that 🤘🏼

[fringe hedge]

@solid crow for my best piece of advice to aim for now if u have a gunner with u use his kem light on his helmet to aim and if u don’t have a gunner use the windshield wiper then aim to the right 2inchs

[solid crow]

Good advice I’ll pass that along to people struggling with sighting for sure! Thanks for the input 🤘🏼

[fringe hedge]

No problem homie

[sage hull]

I just Launch enough rockets to carpet bomb the whole area other than that my gunner takes care of more precision aiming. Those 30mm can disable any vehicle even the bmp

[fluid goblet]

Can’t miss if there isn’t room to miss👌🏻

[twilit yew]

Point blank rocket is still a rocket

[fluid goblet]

Missile?

[twilit yew]

fixed due to pendantic-ness

[fluid goblet]

Lol fair enough

[fluid goblet]

Agreed, and then you add 18 more😂

[final lintel]

I want to add the correct sighting but I am unsure it is worth the development time as I am busy with plenty of other things

[scarlet coral]

Kiss?

[fluid goblet]

If you ever need proper info ask me or @sage hull , we know our stuff with that.

[tropic trout]

bro is the reason reforger is alive

[dawn zephyr]

Not only him, don’t forgot the rest of the modders who contribute to making reforger playable

[sharp sable]

You could always put a simpler version of the Apache hud (similar to like BF4 or arma3) in as a placeholder until you decide to revisit

[wintry gulch]

I hope it doesn't sound too harsh but I guess I don't understand why give people weapons they can't really aim, other than this I am loving the mod (also note I am not requesting or demanding a hud or anything like that, my complaint is just aiming the rockets)

[shy tendon]

I've been using the crossbeam to aim.

[lethal hedge]

Do people really find it that hard to aim? Personally i just think it’s a skill issue

[wintry gulch]

it's more like if you take away ironsights and optics from a rifle - it wouldn't make the rifle impossible to use, but wouldn't you prefer one that has optics or irons?

[dawn hornet]

He just wanted a reason to say skill issue lol

[lethal hedge]

Yes I understand that but at the same time your using 70mm hydra rockets, pin point accuracy isn’t always needed, plus one taking time to familiarise oneself with the airframe your using would help a lot instead of hoping into a helicopter an moaning about not being able to aim, it does take skill to use and personally I like that.

[ornate edge]

No one is moaning about not being able to aim, I agree it’s fairly easy to aim but would you prefer a half finished product or would you prefer a completed Apache with its real life capabilities to the best we can get? That’s what people want not a matter of skill or no skill we want a complete Apache and Space Strider is doing a incredible job at trying to make this thing as best as it can be for us

[sage hull]

Okay so I’m guessing when you do a gun run in to a target you can always hit your target first go and don’t have to walk your rockets in? You do danger close mission all the time and are never close hitting Allies? Their is a reason people put sights on things. Just cause you can drop all of your rockets out of a pod onto one area and disable a vehicle doesn’t mean it’s a good system

[sage hull]

I also Know strider is currently revisiting his other mods to work other things out but the point of this form is to give feedback to the mod creator and in doing so helping him make the mod better

[copper wigeon]

Bacon tried approaching to collaborate a system from all of your testing and knowledge?

[cobalt wedge]

The modder fan base is heating up. Let the guy do what the guy does. You don't get a perfect polish first try

[grim mica]

I'm on console and I will just say that I'm happy to just have these mods perfect or not. Like I'm stoked to even be able to play arma instead of watching it on YouTube

[copper glacier]

@final lintel
So I know that the Apache was built as a counter to the Mi-24V. But since they are built for 2 completely different roles in real life…..

Next helicopter be Mi-28? Lol

[zealous jackal]

Afaik they're pretty similar in roles but one is just newer

[dawn hornet]

Isnt the Mi-28 coming in the helicopter update later on down the road

[crisp mantle]

Nah the mi-8 is

[copper glacier]

The Mi-8 transport heli is. The Mi-28 is too new of a helicopter to be added to base game. Plus it’s an attack chopper

[copper glacier]

The roles for both helicopters is different. The Apache is meant for tactical ground support as a agile attack chopper. Where the Mi24 is a gunship, this means it is meant to clear an area, drop off a small team of infantry and then give them close ground support, where it will either then pick the infantry back up or RTB to rearm and grab reinforcement troops

[dawn hornet]

Oh my bad, i get those both mixed up

[copper glacier]

You’re good, if you ever played Battlefield 3 or 4 the Mi28 was the RU counterpart to the US Viper Attack Chopper

[dawn hornet]

No yeah i know, i get f’ed up by them in war thunder 😂😂

[final lintel]

The MI-24 is almost never used to deliver troops in real life
For the game's purposes they are close enough

[ornate edge]

If I remember right someone is already

Someone sent a photo of working on one at some point a while back

[wintry gulch]

arma reforger mod tools cannot be used for any commercial purposes, so it is not possible to pay someone to make mods

[dry pendant]

Oh i didn't know sorry

[solid crow]

Is a really really good tip for thier knowledge ok to give the person for their hard work? I’ve always wondered the grey areas for artists and these aspects.

[wintry gulch]

if someone accepts money from you for using arma reforger tools then they are breaking the license agreement

[solid crow]

But that’s not what the tip is for it’s for being awesome and donating their time for free to making cool shit.
The tip is to reward awesomeness not as a payment.

Ultimately I guess it’s all about wording in the end?

Like instead of a tip it’s a donation

[wintry gulch]

I only know what's in the license, do whatever you want (at your own risk)

[solid crow]

Totally get that! Sorry for derailing the thread

[grim mica]

That's interesting. One of my buddies actually already paid a guy to make a mod which tje guy hasn't yet made

[dry dagger]

you can pay someone to make a model, just like you can buy a model (license permitting) and use that ingame. You cannot pay for mods, because as previously said the tools are non-commercial - @grim mica

also continuing here #offtopic_arma

[ashen lance]

See, im not sure if you understand what he means by his statement. It's not exactly a NEED but a want for a complete apache system but none of which are neccessary to complete aviation responsibilities. You won't need to walk in your targets. Neither will one need to conduct danger close with friendlies being in immediate danger (communication is important.) If someone dumps for a single vic kill one may need recertification imho

[sage hull]

When you can’t aim and have to get a general area your not hitting your rockets first try every time on target. I only shot two to three but if you always hit your targets first go from just eyeballing it hats off you to. But ever good pilot I know we always have to fire one and adjust off that

[ashen lance]

I'm just saying as a fellow pilot, there are only 3 things that need to be accounted for that doesn't necessarily require a big adjustment for time on Target. It's entirely possible to hit in one shot as it's muscle memory but i understand where you're coming from.

[sage hull]

It’s not muscle memory unless you are actually flying the acft? And even tho with every real life Apache pilot I talk to the don’t even fly sometimes if their TADS are not working

[lethal hedge]

Black, Bro just doesn’t understand 🤷🏻‍♂️

[cobalt wedge]

It's not hard to pin point where on the screen the rocket will go after firing it a few times. At that point, it's a genuine skill issue

[lethal hedge]

Thank you for being very understanding

[sage hull]

Yeah that’s what walking your rounds in mean. I’m not arguing that. I’m saying a sight to know where the will go so your first shot is more accurate

[cobalt wedge]

No no, I mean you can just tell where the sight would be based off where the rocket normally goes. It's right above the metal framing in the top glass. They're sighted for that area, it's not hard to stabilize the heli or even tell how far left or right it'll drift based on movement. I didn't mean walk them in. I mean you can learn where the sight SHOULD be

[dawn hornet]

Long story short: Heli and the armaments are useful and useable but HUD with Rocket CCIP is cooler

[ashen lance]

Yeah we can settle with that statement

[rough sluice]

question, is there any current way to rearem the Apache

[cobalt wedge]

Yeah, it's just a pain for console players

[rough sluice]

I mean if you know how please teach me both ways if possible

[cobalt wedge]

You can open the inventory of the heli n place the respective ammo in its storage. It's got one for rockets, one for the turret

[dry pendant]

@final lintel I have a question for you

[dry dagger]

really? type the question, he’ll answer if / whenever

[dry pendant]

Ok what version of your us military equipment pack had the marine uniforms working

[willow torrent]

i don’t think he made any mods with us marine uniforms

[ornate edge]

Your probably thinking about Vergys military gear which has MARPAT or the RHS mod which has some MARPAT and CVC helmets

[dry pendant]

Nope

[ashen lance]

Strider doesnt make clothing as far as i know

[dry pendant]

Oh wait wrong guy simpler name sorry

[gritty grail]

That would be cool
Ypu should do a sawed off shotgun pistol for it

[fringe hedge]

@final lintel now u can slap rhe ATGMS on the Apache my brotha

[final lintel]

As said before. Just because it works on infantry does not mean it will work on vehicles

[fringe hedge]

Oh

[final lintel]

I still need to take a look at it all
I'll get back to everyone if I can get it to work

[fringe hedge]

Sweet

[wintry gulch]

this and other helos sometimes dont seem to play engine sounds

[cobalt wedge]

It's like it resets the audio to the startup

[final lintel]

It will be fixed with official helis

[wintry gulch]

I don't experience this with cars, what makes the heli sound silent?

[final lintel]

The sound file for the helicopter is dramatically different
Cars have a startup animation and don't need to show the props spinning so they require a different startup that does not have a delay

[tropic trout]

I like your funny words magic man

[wintry gulch]

I've noticed it happening when I join the server while a helicopter is already flying, it feels like something is missing in RplLoad but I didn't really look into it

[final lintel]

It's just the sound file having a delay on it

[wintry gulch]

oh, that's fair

[wintry gulch]

I don't know much about guns, should an AK be able to penetrate the bottom of the helicopter?

[dry dagger]

nope, neither 7.62 or 5.45

[wintry gulch]

ah ok I ask because I was able to delete a pilot by shooting at the front of the helo with an AK from under it (vanilla AK)

[clever rivet]

First time? Hinds had the problem for centuries

[wintry gulch]

I didn't even try shooting them with small arms before because I thought it's a waste of ammo

[clever rivet]

Hind can be penetrated by a 9mm lol

[final lintel]

The armor values should prevent it.. I have always had an issue with the armored glass, which needs another pass

[fluid goblet]

of an apache? yes, now if youre talking about go through the seat then no. both pilots seats are armor plated and it will stop up to high caliber 7.62x54R

[sonic raptor]

Hey space any chance you could make it for the gunner could fly n the pilot could shoot just in case I don’t know how hard that would be as I’m not a modder

[distant ravine]

you wouldn't have much control over where the bullets land

[tropic trout]

i mean i think it sould be possible to give the pilot a fixed gun

just point the thing forward and give the pilot the ability to shoot it but letting the gunner fly, kinda sounds unnecessary

[final lintel]

I can make it so the pilot can shoot but I feel like for balance reasons you should have two people in

[fluid goblet]

in reality it would be really difficult in game, also IRL Pilot will never use the gun, its a co-pilot job

[tropic trout]

it would pretty much be the same as shooting the rockets, but more consistent

[fluid goblet]

not so sure about that it'd be realy hard so see impact in the fixed forward position, the pilot wouldn't have any visual. also very un-realistic.

[vivid creek]

@final lintel I asked this question a few months back, but here it is again. Can the javelin missile from River X be some how made to work with the Apache as a hell fire?

[clever rivet]

If I am correct he’s working with ekudmada to do that wit his hell fire or cruise missile whatever it is

[worthy onyx]

When ADSing in the gunner seat there isn't a crosshair

[final lintel]

Uploading fix

[raven moat]

Sound can't be fixed?

[final lintel]

It got fixed

[raven moat]

really?

you're the best

[worthy onyx]

Something else I've noticed is that when on the ground the Apache seems to jitter around. It happens with the Blackhawk too ever since the wheels have been able to roll. Not necessarily an issue but thought I'd mention it

[vagrant notch]

Does this mod use the server authoritative settings? What i want to know is will it still get stuck in the air if you disconnect?

[final lintel]

no clue

[shy tendon]

Probably best to wait for the official support of rotary

[peak granite]

Wait since when did the Apache have its audio fixed @final lintel? Are the other helicopters fixed now?

[final lintel]

Chinook and apache are

[peak granite]

Do you know if the blade spinning issue has been fixed?

[final lintel]

I think, dunno

[peak granite]

I’ll test it later today

[vagrant notch]

Tested both of them in GM today and they work just like they should😀 BTW the Apache is a lot more detailed now and looks great, good job😀👍

Still need to test on a server to se if others can see the blades rotating and hear the audio

[static musk]

apache has sound!!!!!!! wohoooooooo

[peak granite]

Only spacestrider could release a massive update and just not announce it

[vagrant notch]

Chinook does aswell

[static musk]

yeaaah just checked it out!!!!! whooaaaa

[vagrant notch]

Thats exactly how i felt when i tested them earlier today😂

[ashen lance]

Man I'm missing out rn

Just wait till i get my hands on the chopper

[peak granite]

Can confirm they spin for other players (Chinook rn)

[vagrant notch]

Yeah can confirm both the Apache and the Chinook have working audio and spinning rotors for other players aswell

The Chinook however seems to be a bit bouncy while spinning up on the ground

Same with the Apache but less of a problem there, other than that they are great😀

[turbid plover]

The Apache ain’t starting for me

[blazing zinc]

RB+Y

[turbid plover]

Thanks

[left pewter]

@final lintel someone in another Disocrd posted this picture saying they just got in and it happened. Is this real?

[thin elm]

Plz be real

[worthy onyx]

There hasn't been a new update and I haven't found a keybind that might activate the HUD. Maybe a sneak peek at something coming later?

[clever rivet]

Gullible asf lmao

[left pewter]

Please quit yappen🙏

[wary onyx]

Bigger weapons

[final lintel]

Not real

[clever rivet]

Unless they will know my power

[peak granite]

Why would someone fake that then

[wary onyx]

Noooooooo

[peak granite]

Unless there is a mod for that now

[clever rivet]

People like to do stuff and hype stuff?

[stoic ridge]

It’s not

[worthy onyx]

@sleek sorrel Scroll up

[sleek sorrel]

Ahh thanks

[naive urchin]

I made it lol

[sleek sorrel]

Mod or fake, because if it’s mod we’ll say something if it’s a fake…

[gaunt dove]

It's a texture applied to the interior of the helicopter. It doesn't do anything and has no actual functionality.

[sleek sorrel]

Better than what we have, would still download if it was real

[worthy onyx]

I hope you stub your pinky toe

[naive urchin]

It's in my mod

[sleek sorrel]

Oh

[left pewter]

What mod?

[clever rivet]

Will we see a hind Version once fixed?

[drifting solstice]

Maybe

[fluid goblet]

I can get a video tomorrow of a Real AH-64D IHADDS video and post it here see if its something that can be worked with. I got to Screw with the 30 anyways so i can take a video while i do it.

[left pewter]

What’s the mods name? Is it even released?

[fluid goblet]

Look up extraction, thats the mod. good luck getting it to work, its server locked

[left pewter]

Server locked?

[fluid goblet]

the mod will only work properly on his server

[left pewter]

Bruh…that’s some goblin shii

[drifting solstice]

I don't have all the answers the person at does have the answers is nomad so I suggest asking him

[copper wigeon]

Didn't think that was permitted??

[naive urchin]

It is not server locked

[tender quest]

I was just going through it they have some cool stuff

Saw the helicopter and some other custom vehicles and weapons etc

And ai and prefabs etc, decent size mod tho

[tender quest]

Just copy there mod list and it will work, hard to explain

[left pewter]

How do you find the list?

[tender quest]

Try to join there server

[drifting solstice]

I am glad you like the cool things we also appreciate some feedback is always welcome 🤗

[gritty grail]

I'm downloading now I'm excited to see this shit

[drifting solstice]

@gritty grail i will gladly give you a tour my dude just hmu

[gritty grail]

Sure the mod is 50% done right now so I will let you know when it done

[drifting solstice]

Alright

[gritty grail]

Are you in gamechat on the server or should I send a party inv

[drifting solstice]

I am in gamechat

[gritty grail]

Alright sounds good I will join in like 5

[gritty grail]

Alright I'm loading in now

[worthy onyx]

What was updated?

[ashen lance]

How would i be able to access the mod? Any pointers would be great

[final lintel]

Fixed textures
Reduced size
Re-built M151 rockets
Small sound changes
Added Turret stabilization
Reduced cannon fire rate and changed projectile to help server performance

[ashen lance]

Can't wait to test this

[wintry gulch]

does the stabilization component actually work on the helo?

[final lintel]

dunno
I don't really have anyone to test with and can't get peer tool to work

[wintry gulch]

roll axis probably doesnt, but if pitch and yaw work then thats already an improvement

in general it works better with SAV than it did before

[final lintel]

I mostly just wanted a core mod with scripts in it and figured I'd merge your stabilisation stuff
Hopefully it should add a nice difference to vehicles that do and don't have it

[carmine swan]

It does in fact was messing with it earlier and it's great, nice job

[carmine swan]

And yes only pitch

[ashen lance]

Im going to test. Restarting server to update

Enjoyed the reworked ammunition for the 30mm
The firing rate make it easier to burst effectively saving ammunition

[final lintel]

I changed it to be a bit closer to combat speeds instead of theoretical max

[ashen lance]

Great change imho

[lime light]

Should put in thermals for the gunner

[zealous jackal]

Small issue - no heat map

[lime light]

Damn

[zealous jackal]

Yeah making NODs work is one thing but making a whole heat map is different

[wintry gulch]

technically we don't have nods either

[dry dagger]

@void jacinth - wrong channel

[willow salmon]

hopefully someday we'll get functioning MFD and thermals

[fluid goblet]

The hells an MFD? an MPD?

[willow salmon]

Multi-Function Display
"Glass Cockpit"

[fluid goblet]

doesn't exist in the apache lol, MPD does though. basically mean the same thing though

[clever rivet]

I honestly wonder how a thermal script could be wrote. Simplest method I believe would be the way the jav did it and just essentially highlighted Vehicles while ads, yet there has to be another way that doesn't break the game

[dry dagger]

the JAV thermals are not really thermals either way. Proper IR is not possible yet - you would need to grab the information in regards to what gets hot and what not from some input. There is no input for thermals. A3 has a mix of terrain procedural input and thermal textures (32bit texture 4x grey channels used - https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Thermal_Imaging_Maps) for both vehicles and humanoids

[copper glacier]

Ohh, that makes sense. So simplistically no built in script for base game to show thermal signatures/textures = not able to make thermal optics...neat but also a bummer

Just out of curiosity, is it possible to make an optic that looks like a thermal but it only lights up players and vehicles?

[dry dagger]

i guess it could be possible to script it. That being said, i doubt you can have hot and cold areas in the mix.

[copper glacier]

Hm...ok, thank you for entertaining my thoughts 🙂

[wintry gulch]

yes, but it will look horrible for a couple different reasons such as changing the surface material for a character resets its animations

[nimble heron]

Is there a way to stabilize the 30mm

[stoic ridge]

Just have a pilot that flies steady good enough

[final lintel]

Apache gun uses the same stab that the tanks use
Should work fine

[clever rivet]

Gunner skill issue

[nimble heron]

Thx

[vivid creek]

Why do the helicopters move like hocky pucks on ice when landing or taking off?

[normal mesa]

try to figure that one out...

[willow salmon]

Wheel physics

[vivid creek]

@willow salmon so no brakes

[willow salmon]

The black hawk has brakes

You just can't set it permanently

They disengage when you get out, this causing the janky wheel physics to take over

[fervent burrow]

Will the mechanics be the same as vanilla helicopters, or will everything remain as it is?

[final lintel]

Everything will be in line with vanilla

[clever rivet]

I love how modders made a better keybind setup for helis then BI did themselves

Although to think about it BI doing it themselves it won't interfere with anything else

[willow salmon]

For the helicopters without pilot controlled armament, I don't agree, because I find great use in being able to independently look around without moving the aircraft (at least on controller) as well as not worry about accidentally yawing while pushing full collective

For armed aircraft, however, i don't even know what to think yet because they are gonna have to figure out how to put the weapons on unused buttons

[dawn hornet]

The collective pitch setup for vanilla by BI is tedious imo. I prefer the modded heli setup with an optional to hold down a separate button and then use the right joystick to look around and then let go of said button to resume control of the roll and pitch axis

[zealous jackal]

Personally I enjoy the ability to look around, the old modded system was finicky

[zealous warren]

Was kind of annoying when I’d try to turn on lights mid flight and just start plummeting, i like the new flight controls

[dawn hornet]

Eh i see what you mean. Il probably never touch controller again if it stays that way, il just wait for HOTAS allowance

[dry dagger]

nothing to do with this channel - use #reforger_feedback

dealt with

[normal mesa]

bruh

that's straight up a pufu moment

[dry dagger]

?

[copper glacier]

i dont understand either

[clever rivet]

.

[young ingot]

How dare you

[opal timber]

.

[clever rivet]

sorry 😔😰
I was just trying to revive the thread and see if the mod would be updated to 1.0

[woeful heath]

Then click follow?

[young ingot]

<3