MD500 - LittleBird

[dense prairie]

MD500 - Civilian and Military variants

The MD500 mod has been released. This mod currently includes MD500 base with multiple civilian skins, as well as combat variants. The mod is still very much work in progress, but waiting on some things was taking forever and we wanted to get this to the public. Very aware of the inability to reload pilot controlled vehicle mounted weapons as well as the inability to animate their magazines. We hope a fix for this is implemented in the near future.

[late sparrow]

Okay this is epic

[civic dome]

The wait is over the bird is here hoorah

[viral robin]

https://media.tenor.com/iXQSOPYm1zUAAAAM/little-bird-firing.gif

[late sparrow]

Testing it rn, lets goo

[dense prairie]

It's still very WIP

Only way to reload at the moment is to land, delete, and replace the whole helicopter.

[primal bane]

Is there perhaps a way to trigger a refill via an action when near say a crate? I don't know how Reforger code works but I know that was possible in 3.

[dense prairie]

There are ways to script that I'm sure. Just need time. The reloading and magazine animations issue has just been a hold up for the whole mod for far too long.

[primal bane]

Have you tried asking Strider? His vehicle has reload ability?

[dense prairie]

We will have both M134's firing at once soon enough as well. It just requires we completely remake the animations and setup for them, so it got back burnered.

[primal bane]

Not trying to be a pain. Would try to help if I had a clue.

[dense prairie]

The LittleBird does not work like a turreted vehicle. It's a pilot controlled weapon system. Weapons are slotted to the vehicle, not turrets.

Also, Strider is a part of Project Redline and had a major hand in this.

[pale ledge]

Any plans for a little bird variant with the seats on the side?

[dense prairie]

Look at the 2nd to last photo above.

[pale ledge]

my bad didn’t see that 😅, looks awesome.

[pale drum]

Now on for Russia
Do a HinD, that'll work as both transport and support for the Soviets and would be an amazing addition to any modded server

Can't wait until RHS dabbles into the US side of things and adds vehicles to each respective faction for their mods

[dense prairie]

The A2 hind isn't worth working on. If someone provided a decent quality model we could do it, it's just not currently worth the expense.

[lucid birch]

awesome thank you and your team.

[pale drum]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/mi-24-helicopter-fce189423b6c4c179b178eeea77a82a4

Would this suffice? Has a suitable interior, just needs seats modeled into it

I'm unsure exactly what qualities might be lacking from this model or need to be added, other than the obvious weapons incorporated into the model itself that may need some tweaking, so you can add empty states for rocket pods and stuff

I myself am not very familiar with coding and 3d modeling, but I know a HinD when I see one and this sure looks like a decent quality HinD - even has an interior

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/mil-mi-24

This one is textureless and has the side doors open, meaning you don't even have to model a door opening or an animation for one. Players can just jump in one like you can the Stryker

[dense prairie]

That is not a quality model. Trust me when I say you will not find one that isn't hundreds of dollars.

[pale drum]

Will it suffice for Reforgers needs?

[dense prairie]

No

[pale drum]

Damn

[late sparrow]

Im sure if yall set up a patreon, Discord server etc you could reach the necessary funds needed

[dense prairie]

Strider has one, but it's not exactly something that can get shared around here.

[pale drum]

I know some dudes willing to pay

And I myself am willing to put a little bit of money in a pot to see cool things in the fun shooty vehicle game

[late sparrow]

Perhaps open up a discord and then go from there

[pale drum]

A centralized Arma modding discord might be a necessity at this point, so verified modders can more easily share their work around if they choose to

[dense prairie]

Besides that, I think the current direction he's going is onto tracked vehicles, so he is focusing on that. The Helicopter stuff Is kinda in limbo till more gets sorted by BI.

[pale drum]

Sourcing funds to buy a HinD model from Strider sounds like chump change tbh

Enough people are willing to fork up money for cool stuff that it could get done in a week at this rate

[late sparrow]

^

[pale drum]

Hell, if youre lucky you might get enough money from it to pay a week or twos bills so you can grind out programming

[lucid birch]

Instrument light not turning on at night or active, rockets are showing when you shoot them. Blackhawk rolls really bad when on the ground parking break button is not working.

[rigid topaz]

The rocket magazine animation is a bug on Bi's side

[craggy quail]

Rockets staying in the air in multiplayer is the same bug that does it with 40mm gl rounds?

In singleplayer I didn't see rockets remain in midair

[rigid topaz]

The new wheel implementation seems to have broken the handbreak

[lucid birch]

Yes

[craggy quail]

Also, the game has no UI of any kind for pilot weapons yet?

[late sparrow]

If they implement a rudimentary form of crosshairs around the general location as to where the rockets would land in the cockpit then maybe yeah but a working weapons HUD? Doubt

[pale drum]

Shouldn't be too hard to mod in and activate it by wearing a helmet

[craggy quail]

how do pilots aim those IRL? HUD on your helmet?

[rigid topaz]

A mark on the glass

[pale drum]

There are helmets designed for that but those are very, very modern, and very recent

[late sparrow]

Usually fighter pilots have those i think

[pale drum]

Yeah

[odd pivot]

@dense prairie I could kiss you

[merry quartz]

Just do a cross with a sharpie on the glass

[odd pivot]

Night stalkers just fired em at a known range them make were they land on the glass with a Grease pencil I belive

[stoic yew]

This is really nice, can't wait to see this in a proper op

[dense prairie]

Shout out to anyone good with the sound system in reforger that could help clean up the engine setup. That and animations.

[late sparrow]

Our milsim group may do one today with it, looking forward to it

[solid rapids]

Likewise
It'll be top notch

[solid rapids]

You legend
Props to you and the redline team on a good well done. Loving the airframe so far. 👏🏾

[odd pivot]

So maybe it's cuz I'm on console but do the mini guns not work?

[craggy quail]

they do work for me, you have 4 weapons to cycle as a pilot but there is no UI indicator which weapon you're on

[odd pivot]

Yeah I just figured it out, but thank you

[merry quartz]

What button?

[craggy quail]

same button you use to cycle weapons in BTR turret, whatever that is on your xbox or pc

[rigid topaz]

We tried to get the ui to work to no avail
I think it's something to do with it being a pilot compartment

[craggy quail]

is it different than the compartment of the BTR turret?

I guess it is as it even displays as gunner in something like GM hover

[late sparrow]

Question, the mod is server compatible right? Only asking to double check

[rigid topaz]

should be

[late sparrow]

Ok thank you

[dense prairie]

We can get basic vehicle info to display, but weaponinfo and vehicleweaponinfo do nothing when active.

[merry quartz]

I’m sure you’ll figure it out 😈 CHAD HELI!!!

[left thunder]

lets go

[solid rapids]

They work
RB to switch unless your RB button is 🅱️roken

[craggy quail]

I like destroying the littlebirds with RPGs because they drop BTR tires when they explode

[stoic yew]

Got to play with the little bird in an op, very very nice.

[craggy quail]

it appears the doors on the side are made of glass as well

[stoic yew]

Hearing that thing buzz around and knowing someone somewhere is no longer having a good day is cathartic

[subtle tapir]

SO THIS WORKS JUST LIKE THE DAYZ ONE. I LOVE IT

Good job Redline team

[undone gorge]

So i played around with the Little bird for a few hours with my group, had a blast and i can already imagine the CAS support I’ll provide them during ops.

Bugs/Glitches:
The rotors when you start the chopper begin and then they slow down and turn the other way before the heli takes off.

The camera bugs out sometimes when flying in third person (Changes positions, snaps into weird places before going back to normal)

Possible Improvements:
The only main improvement id suggest is a target sight for the miniguns and rockets, to make it more accurate when firing.

I can understand the switching between the rocket pods because you can’t reload them but for the mini guns it would be cool to shoot both at the same time (Id understand if there was an issue with this)

Other than those there aren’t anything else I’d suggest or glitches to report, but overall amazing mod i had a alot of fun while mucking around and can’t wait to use it more extensively in the future

[undone gorge]

If anything else i notice I’ll be sure to report it here

I i also got to mention when you shoot the rockets, the rockets become visible in the air and stay static there (visible to everyone unless everyone who sees it leaves and rejoins the server)

Aswell as maybe a little bit more speed to the little bird

And the audio for the miniguns sometimes bug out when in third person and go silent or the sound comes in and our in bits (Reusing the blackhawk again for other things i might of missed) In first person the audio is fine

[bold tundra]

https://www.patreon.com/SpaceStrider?utm_campaign=creatorshare_fan

Oppsss……

[pale drum]

that first one is actually a real world optical illusion
The blades spin so fast that it looks like theyre going backwards when theyre not

[undone gorge]

No like in the blackhawk mod it starts up then the blades slows down after it reaches a certain point. Then they turn the other way before taking off

[subtle tapir]

Some brief freezing when firing rockets.
First Person can bug out on PC when firing man canon (Head shaking but functional)

[undone gorge]

I noticed this aswell

[fossil oracle]

Amazing great stuff

[neat nacelle]

The rockets are more like a bombing run the come from below the heli also the pods are not there just one rocket …. I know it’s a WIP just giving feed back and the Deceleration of the helicopter when landing seems to be off and the rockets do cause a brief frame drop / freeze THANK YOU FOR RELEASING THIS AWSOME BIRD 🥹🎉

[solid rapids]

I may have a note to add albeit great work overall on the functionality and design

The little bird tops out at 100-115 km/h and im unsure if this was intended.

Some character clipping issues for pilot seat when wearing certain gear resulting in exposed limbs/ joints.

Lastly, I'm also unsure if this was intended but when landed pilots are unable to look left/right, at risk of tipping the airframe unless holding down the collective

[cosmic tinsel]

Yeah that's a small problem with the black hawk as well when landing

[summer lake]

Yall.... Absolutely beautiful 🙌🙌🙌🤤

[native thicket]

holy crap, thank you for your time to create this model for free

[neat nacelle]

I feel the camera angle in the pilots seat is to far to the right maybe move back to the left alittle and the camera angle in the rear seats have clipping issues

[craggy quail]

is the speed display broken or does this really cap out on like 120 km/h

[subtle tapir]

It caps early, it would cap like IRL but at 175km

[craggy quail]

also is it indestructible?

oh nevermind, it needs quite a few rockets

[craggy quail]

Function: 'EOnContact'
Stack trace:
scripts/Game/R3D_HeliBlades.c:36 Function EOnContact
  SCRIPT    (E): NULL pointer to instance
Class:      'R3D_HeliBlades'
Entity id:4611686018427405842

lots of those in the logs

[merry quartz]

I’ve noticed if another little bird hits it on the top the bottom one explodes

It’s crazzzzzyyyy

[dense prairie]

Collisions in the helicopters are wonky. They can faceplant buildings without a scratch but will have full on meltdowns if touched by other vehicles.

[dense prairie]

Well take a look tonight. They heli script for rotor damage should have been turned off when we did it to the Blackhawk.

[uneven spoke]

Finally managed to fly the helicopter and I had a few points of feedback:

-As others have said the helicopter feels really slow

-Some kind of sharpie mark on the window of the AH-6 would really help out a lot for aiming.

-The mini guns are really laser beams, maybe add a tiny amount of spread to them

-It’s too easy to accidentally fire off more missiles than you intend to by accidentally holding the fire button a fraction of a second too long

-Destroying the Helicopter spawns BTR wheels for some reason

Really awesome to have another helicopter in the game now guys. Great job

[zinc mica]

Great mod!

Only i think would be cool to add a remote controlled camera with light projector for co-pilot?
Maybe a blue police version of helicopter that may find a place in future RP servers.

[pale drum]

Light projector would be nice for night time

[rigid topaz]

like a spot light?

[pale drum]

Yeah

Spotlights and laser designators are common sights on little birds

[cosmic tinsel]

Yeah could we get a dot or something to help aim the guns

[pale drum]

Hover in spot, shoot a rocket, sharpie the glass where the rocket lands

[cosmic tinsel]

How would I do that to a tv

[pale drum]

Not you

Although on that note, CSGO players do that often
They'll draw a dot on their monitor with paint so they have a cursor

[cosmic tinsel]

Lol sorry I'm a bit of a dumbass😂

[late sparrow]

You’re gonna constantly change the dot since its not zeroed/sighted in for every distance. Not to mention the rockets are not directly under the pilot so it will always be off centred

You’ll be better off just learning it through experience imo

[cosmic tinsel]

Still the dot would be useful to give a rough estimate off of

[odd pivot]

With about 3 hours under my belt I have the rockets down I can get a second if not first round impact

[late sparrow]

A general location at a certain range yes, close range you’ll really need to add more dots for sure

[vestal ice]

I noticed bots don't engage the little bird. Try place a helicopter with your soldier inside. Bots will call for enemy on sight but won't shoot. At least I tried this and that happened

[keen lava]

Can confirm this.

[rigid topaz]

I always forget to set up the target points for AI, that's my bad

I'll make sure to get the ai to beam the pilot in the head every time

[craggy quail]

yea but since we're talking about making it be a bullet magnet it'd be dope if the bullets worked

or maybe make the vibranium coated one a separate vehicle

[foggy ice]

God please no.

[dense prairie]

Update inbound.

v1.0.1
-Center of Mass adjustment
-Vehicle physics adjusted to increase top speed
-Added vehicle info HUD to 3rd person view
-Adjusted pilot seating position
-Increased the mla for rocket spread
-Decreased particle count for rocket effect
-Fixed AI not firing at helicopter
-Added R3D_VehicleComponent to clear log spam

updates coming to CORE as well adjusting M134 dispersion. I'll push that next.

[solid rapids]

Awesome
Thank you for the update(s)

[dense prairie]

workbench has been on "Publishing" for forever. I'll leave it for a bit longer and hope it works.

[keen lava]

Do you plan on adding a crosshair? No pressure but i just thought it would be easy to add a mark on the glass. I have no experience in model making so dont take any offence.

[late sparrow]

The camera is a little off to the left and it feels a lot more harder to aim with any of the armaments in my opinion. Feels a lot heavier to fly too

[craggy quail]

do rocket explosions have sounds now? I didn't have a chance to check yet

[dense prairie]

None of the updates have pushed, so everyone is still using the initial version. Hopefully something gets fixed tomorrow. Both the Blackhawk mod getting pushed from the US East Coast and the LittleBird mod getting pushed from the West coast, on two different accounts, are having issues publishing.

Sweet Baby Jesus, workshop is showing v1.0.1 now. Just updated. But my workbench still says "Publishing, please wait".... Do I kill it? Decisions decisions...

If anyone is able to use the newest version, let me know.

[late sparrow]

For the Blackhawk? Yeah im using it, the wheel issue is gone

[late sparrow]

^ what I’ve gathered from the latest Littlebird update

[primal bane]

I had the same issue recently, then eventually I got an error on the console log on the workbench, but the mod uploaded fine etc for all to use. So weird. I'd kill it and take a note of the version being one up on your workbench or it will error when you upload another update that it exists already.

[dense prairie]

Thanks, just killed it.

[lucid birch]

We can use it but the camera angle is wired also shooting the minigun and rocket kick me back and forth from Frist to 3 person, head is clipping chough the top of pilot seat.

[dense prairie]

xbox or PC?

[lucid birch]

xbox

[dense prairie]

That makes more sense. Getting reports that don't match what we see, but none of us have xboxes.

[pale drum]

Back left seat has minor clipping issue, my head goes through that aluminum beam right in-between the two rear passenger seats

[lucid birch]

but reset server to see if it will still be the same because it added a extra Hud for the the bench little birds.

[dense prairie]

Any xbox user tell me if right trigger is usually the switch between first and third? That should be the weapon fire action.

[pale drum]

I heard last night that the right bumper swaps weapons

[lucid birch]

No it the right thumb stick to go in and out of 3rd and first. and the right bumper to switch weapons.

[pale drum]

Bumper is the shoulder button, trigger is the big one, for those PC players who didn't have good childhoods and don't know what a controller looks like

[tawny plaza]

Trigger is to shoot, bumper is to swap weapon

[late sparrow]

The camera is off centred. Its off to the left in first person and third person. Armaments are fine but a little harder to aim with now but its got to do with the camera issue for sure (Xbox user)

[bright sorrel]

@late sparrow Yeah, I've been experiencing the same thing. Also Xbox.

[fierce pumice]

I’m having an issue with turning on instrument lights

I don’t know if that’s a mod issue or a me issue though, but other than that I’m loving the mod awesome work

[bright sorrel]

Example of the bug, its the same angle 3rd person.

[late sparrow]

Found a glitch. You always die when you’re on the benched MD500 if you sit on the bench at the first lefthand side next to the co-pilot

[tawny plaza]

What on takeoff?

[neat nacelle]

Xbox issues : pilot position in pilots seat isn’t straight and way off To the right and seems some clipping issues as well as you can’t turn instruments on only landing lights

[late sparrow]

Anytime

[solid rapids]

In addition, we noticed that when going into copilot and moving to pilot, you can no longer turn your head

[dense prairie]

I know people play on both, and people would complain about being singled out, but if we had user flair like reddit with either "xbox" or "PC" this would be so much easier.

[solid rapids]

User flair?

[fiery brook]

so regarding that "shifting" to right bug - i also encountered this when testing ah-6

but it was on PC

[rigid topaz]

The seating position is just off

[pale ledge]

it would be cool if we could take the doors off the armed littlebird, also flying in third person is kinda odd because the camera is a little off to the side now

[hazy nimbus]

If you’re having a problem with the little birds rocket pods disappearing I narrowed it down that ashyl’s “better vehicles” mod is the cause. Idk why it is but deactivating it fixed the rocket pods.

[dense prairie]

He made the rockets and rocket pods, so I'm sure it's something simple we can figure out.

[bold tundra]

I would imagine being able to have your weapon out while on the bench is something that is not possible for now?

[rigid topaz]

Might have to wait for arma 4 for that

[undone gorge]

Got some bugs with the new update
Bugs:
Camera angled to the right more (Will provide pics) in first and third person

When you take off the rotors spool up then slow down then you take off then mid-air the rotors turn the other way and spool up again as your flying.

The audio for the Rockets and Miniguns are still wacky in third person (going in and out of sound)

Opinions/suggestions

I still think for the little bird with the weapons a sight should be added.

In my opinion the speed update made it really fucken fast, not sure if its meant to be that fast but its very fast.

The miniguns fire at the same time (both) instead of switching between them.

(Not sure if intentional or not) The maneuverability seems more sluggish with the new update and you have to yank more for the helicopter to move to that position. Like it takes longer to turn when full speed and when you tilt it forward its a struggle

Pictures:

[rigid topaz]

The speed it realistic.
The rotor effect you see is just because we don't have blur yet. It's the rotor speed matching your fps/refresh rate making it look like it's going the wrong way
I feel like the miniguns firing at the same time is a good thing?

[craggy quail]

its like watching recorded helicopters, was waiting for someone to complain about it

[undone gorge]

For the miniguns i meant like have both of them fire at the same time instead of just firing the one and then switching to the other

[late sparrow]

So right now when you switch it goes left pod, right pod, left gun, right gun (then back to the start). Perhaps you could add an option at the end to fire both rocket pods and then another to fire both miniguns.

[undone gorge]

Yeh thats what im saying. The rocket pods i understand because you can’t reload them

[odd pivot]

Maybe its just me but with the pov shift it seems harder to aim

[late sparrow]

I agree

[odd pivot]

The flight model changes are also interesting takes more skill, due to tail being less responsive but makes it harder to do cinematic landing but I maybe the only one who cares

[solid rapids]

Absolutely. Even using your imaginary black dot as an aiming assist helps very little

[odd pivot]

Thats what I did before but the shift has got that all messed up, seems like the guns don't aim at the same spots anymore

[solid rapids]

Seemingly so
Hopefully in the future we can get an increase to the minigun ammo count so we can micro adjust with peace of mind. Spawning in multiple little birds for the duration of one op can be a bit of a pain

[bold tundra]

I like having it spawn in, acts as if you are rtb for reload. Can gm rearm it? I haven’t tried that yet

[left thunder]

remember guys the little bird used a hellcat motor with this recent little bird update

[uneven spoke]

Disagree, that’d make it cumbersome to switch from rockets to your guns. I say use the coupled guns and bump up the ammo capacity instead

[solid rapids]

Unfortunately you can't. Even checked if it could be reloaded via backpack utility or ammo storage. No 🎲

[uneven spoke]

As a side note what distance do the mini guns converge at?

[solid rapids]

It seems they're supposed to converge at 500-700m
Or so it seems in game

And if there is going to be bullet spread in the coming future, i wonder if this would change

[craggy quail]

I like sticking smoke grenades on the little bird and doing a little colorful airshow

[rigid topaz]

The bullet spread was updated to the realistic real world values

We also wanted to add reloading but since you can’t press the reload button you cant replace the magazine in the gun correctly. I might take another go at it

[left thunder]

i hope u can figure it out

[rigid topaz]

I might have figured it out

[devout vector]

@rigid topaz Just a few questions if you have the time as your probably swamped with other request... Any plans to put a Black dot on the windscreen like pilots do IRL Or do all the guns still have a different aim point? also one last question/request will there be any possibility you'll add the old OH-6 paint scheme for this as it would be a more correct version for us non SF/Modern milsms? I've added some examples below..

[left thunder]

maybe disable the seat’s inside the helicopter for the benches littebird

https://tenor.com/view/extraction-little-bird-military-helicopter-gif-13892235

[late sparrow]

No need tho?

[left thunder]

U can only have 6 people on a little bird or it be heavy

[late sparrow]

It wouldn’t be tremendously heavy

[subtle tapir]

None SF never use the AH6 anyways nowadays. They use V22s, CH47s and UH60s irl

[subtle tapir]

I promise, the lift to weight ratio allows for the 2 man crew and 6 passengers irl with no problem. You wont even see the rotars struggling like they would for max tonnage

[left thunder]

has been done before? irl

[subtle tapir]

Yes

[pale ledge]

i think the seats in the back should just be changed and instead have 3 seats on each bench, it can be a hassle getting the prompt to get in the back if there’s already people on the bench

[dense prairie]

Why remove functionality when we could just adjust the action point for the back seats?

[solid rapids]

The seating is fine imo
As long as people know where to sit and get seated appropriately. They can also move over.

[rigid topaz]

The dot has already been added internally, as well as moving the seating position inward

[subtle tapir]

I was honestly baffled and people kept asking for it

[dense prairie]

Just watched a review video of the LittleBird and i saw the rockets firing straight down for the first time. No idea if it was XBOX or PC version. Can anyone on PC let me know if their rockets shot straight down instead of forward?

[safe elk]

Hey sorry for asking but since the update has the little bird been updated? Is it safe to run publicly?

[dense prairie]

Not sure what you mean by safe? There was an update a couple days ago.

[safe elk]

Ever since the update recently it breaks alot of mods and I was just wondering if it was updated since

[cursive wind]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[dense prairie]

Ahh, yeah, will get with Ashyl on that.

[undone gorge]

Is it just me or like whenever the little bird or blackhawk gets added to the servers mod list it doesn’t work. The server just straight up doesn’t show up

[subtle tapir]

Its your cache, my entire unit has both installed and we have no problems on the server

[shadow edge]

Did you find a fix ?

[subtle tapir]

Uninstall and then reinstall your mods. Thats an arma issue not a Little Bird one

[devout vector]

Yes but for the in game time frame the Black MH-6 "Little Bird" is specific to SF especially the one with benches. The Basic version the green OH-6 "LOACH" was available to the US army as a whole at the time was used for Scouting and as a forward observer Aircraft.

Also anyone else having issues adding Both the UH-60 & MH-6 to their server's? It keeps going in a reset loop if we try...

[solid rapids]

Looping while download (97% stall?) Or trying initiate the download

[devout vector]

Its after we add it to the server files not the workshop itself... It makes the server go into a restart loop for some reason when we try to add them both in.

[dense prairie]

do you get a server log?

[hazy nimbus]

I see that better vehicles got an update is it compatible with this now?

[devout vector]

It’s fixed now they both work together.

[mental radish]

Would the combat little birds controls being switched to guided by mouse be considered?

[rigid topaz]

Only if they add that functionality to the base game

[left thunder]

i think have a gun sight on the combat little bird will help people aim better

[uneven spoke]

This has been stated multiple times that it is being added

[left thunder]

ok i didn’t know that was brought up my fault

[craggy quail]

can i make the most meaningless bug report?

[dense prairie]

can I choose to address it? 😛

[craggy quail]

yes

I noticed grass flattens under helicopter even when the helicopter is 200 meters above ground

[dense prairie]

Will take a look at what we can do with that before we push the next update.

[rigid topaz]

That’s a we can remove it indefinitely
Or keep it until they add heli’s

[craggy quail]

also does the helicopter not clear when you do delete destroyed entities as GM?

[stoic yew]

No you gotta manually delete it, atleast from my experience

[craggy quail]

oh ok this might be more important than the grass stuff then

[rigid topaz]

I don’t know why it doesn’t clear..

[craggy quail]

when AI shoots at random into the sky it's a bug with them not seeing the helicopter target in the correct place? they sometimes dump 10 mags into a position the helicopter was flying 1 minute ago

[rigid topaz]

The AI seem to struggle to update the hit position on fast moving targets

[craggy quail]

fair

[left thunder]

there storm troopers

[dense prairie]

R3D MD500 Littlebird has been updated to version 1.0.2
Patch notes:

v1.0.2
-Added fuel tank
-Added fuel consumption
-Added misc sounds
-Added weapon inventory
-Added windscreen aiming mark
-Added minigun and hydra ammunition to blufor arsenal
-Adjusted LAU pods separated in inventory
-Adjusted inventory view of pod and rocket magazine
-Adjusted engine startup sounds
-Adjusted vehicle sound volume
-Adjusted flight physics
-Adjusted seating positions closer to center
-Adjusted lift max speed
-Fixed shutdown sounds
-Fixed rocket pods```

Give the update about 15 minutes. It was flying for the first 20%, but it's not only up to 25%, so it's going to be a few minutes.

[pale drum]

🔥 ❤️

[left thunder]

how do u reload on controller?

[rigid topaz]

You drag a magazine into the weapon from outside of the vehicle,Magazines should be in arsenals

[dense prairie]

v1.0.2 Known issues:

Engine startup plays on loop
Centering helicopter is too difficult
Grease pencil mark disappears over water```

[craggy quail]

BTW did the rockets get explosion sounds yet?

[rigid topaz]

Do they not have them?

[craggy quail]

don't think so, at least they didn't last time I tried it out

[mental radish]

Bacon is now a hydra artillery piece

[craggy quail]

got an idea...

[craggy quail]

[mental radish]

Boom boom boom goes the enemy, he's airborne

[uneven spoke]

Standard bacon activities

[frozen quest]

Any chance on getting the ability to fire both miniguns at once?

[sour tulip]

Mostly no

[terse kindle]

Any way to add functionality of passengers on the side of the aircraft (on the benches) able to fire their own weapons while sitting in the helicopter?

[cursive wind]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[uncut latch]

I just pulled it of😂pls fix

[atomic socket]

It’s a feature

[rigid topaz]

Yea, don't do that

[stoic yew]

Went through a whole op where someone did that, they used the rockets as a suicide bomb multiple times

[tacit elk]

Does anyone know how to switch what weapon to fire on console. Is it possible?

[agile jewel]

For me I have to press RB

Not sure if it’s different for anyone else but it’s RB for me on the Stryker too for example

[tacit elk]

Thanks

[vestal ice]

Hello, I've found an issue with little bird mod...
Note THIS HAPPENS WITH EVERY POSSIBILE EXAMPLE on XBOX SERIES X.
I've tested,
ONLINE
OFFLINE
ARLAND
EVERON
MODDED MAPS
WITH MULTIPLE MODS
WITHOUT ANY OTHER MODS

The result is always the same, when Project Redline - MD500 is activated some vehicles don't show flames when catch fire.
They do make sound and they do start loosing armor, but flames aren't visible.

Hope this is helpful

[rigid topaz]

I can look at it

[craggy quail]

noticed this crash today when the vehicle (blades?) was spawned in my game after I connected to a server

15:37:54.665  ENTITY       : SpawnEntityInPrefab @"{CE2BCACA842B6D78}Prefabs/Vehicles/Helicopters/R3D_MD500/R3D_MD500_Black_Benches.et"
15:37:54.665   ENTITY       : Create entity @"ENTITY:4611686018427392915" ('R3D_HeliBase','Assets/Vehicles/Helis/MD500/mh6_Base.xob') at <9136.053711 104.279999 2154.310059> @"{CE2BCACA842B6D78}Prefabs/Vehicles/Helicopters/R3D_MD500/R3D_MD500_Black_Benches.et"
15:37:54.665    RESOURCES    : GetResourceObject @"{2E03BAD42B84CC96}Assets/Vehicles/Helis/MD500/data/anim/R3D_MD500.pap"
15:37:54.665     RESOURCES (E): Assets/Vehicles/Helis/MD500/data/anim/R3D_MD500.pap, RotationMake 13318: IOP connection to 7172 not found. Check the project
15:37:54.732  ENTITY       : SpawnEntityInPrefab @"{854D101CE3476510}Prefabs/Vehicles/Helicopters/R3D_MD500/Blades/R3D_MD500_Blades.et"
15:37:54.732   RENDER       : ----------------------------------------------------------------
15:37:54.732   RENDER       : ----------------------------------------------------------------
15:37:54.732   RENDER       : Rend: Fps:1000000.00 (0.00ms) | Present 0.00ms | Wait4GPU 0.00ms (graphical 0.00 + copy 0.00) | defrag 0.00ms
15:37:54.732   RENDER       : Rend: DP:0000 DPI:0000 DPR:0000 DPID:0000 Tri:00000 Vert:000000 CSRun:00|AllV:00x(00000) AllI:00x(00000) BegV:00x(00000) BegI:00x(00000)|TRes:0268
15:37:54.732   RENDER       : ----------------------------------------------------------------
15:37:54.886   ENGINE    (E): Application crashed! Generated memory dump: C:/Users/x/Documents/My Games/ArmaReforger/logs/logs_2023-05-23_15-37-16\ArmaReforgerSteam_2023-05-23_15-37-54.mdmp

[pliant cosmos]

what is the mod for the "SpecGru" aka. Rangers gear form from COD MW2 (2022)?

[uncut latch]

No idea

[hollow crater]

If you are talking about the gear in that photo.. thats the 7ID Mod

[pliant cosmos]

Has it really come to a time when the community manager doesn't hit you with a stick for using content (ripped models) from other games?

[minor jackal]

...nais, cheers for the report, will be taken care of

[pliant cosmos]

does that mean we still can't use ripped models from other games?

[minor jackal]

of course you cannot, what kind of question is that?

[pliant cosmos]

[minor jackal]

?

[pliant cosmos]

that is, even if the 3d model is in the public domain, but it is ripped from the game, then it still cannot be ported to the game?

[minor jackal]

read the EULA / TOS for reforger and workbench.
short version - you need to be the owner of said 3d model (be it via actually making that model, or buying that model from some renowned store - keeping the receipt is key if proof is asked of you)

the internet is filled with illegal obtained things (public domain is an overstatement here), it is still irrelevant

also if you wanna continue this go to #other_ip_topics - said modder has been permanently banned pending his content removal

[pliant cosmos]

is creating content about current military conflicts considered "offensive" or "objectionable"?

[latent sky]

Not a lawyer, or an admin, but I don’t think so.

I believe what that rule is really meant to encompass is NSFW content and shit. They just word it like that so they have the authority to effectively and legally remove content from the site

Besides, it would be pretty dumb if modern conflicts were in a magical “no touching” zone. The fact is that all war leaves someone pissed off, or grieving. We can’t just draw the line because it’s “too controversial”

[prime zenith]

I think that mostly means things like the hitler mod that got taken down

[pliant cosmos]

im just wondering if my mod will be removed if I add military vehicle of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on which the attributes of the invasion forces will be depicted

[latent sky]

Nope. Ur good

[minor jackal]

i would say that would be in a morally wrong and in very poor taste, but you do you

[tame vine]

@dense prairie variant w/ 20mm HE?…..

Instead of Mini-gun

[latent sky]

Just out of curiosity, how?

[minor jackal]

?

[latent sky]

How is it morally wrong?

[exotic smelt]

Any depictions of any ongoing or recent conflict is rather distasteful, especially one so controversial. There’s no reason why you couldn’t just use regular unmarked Russian vehicles. Furthermore, put yourself in the shoes of anyone currently in or effected by the war… it’s rather morally inconsiderate. Especially since there’s a simple option of making said vehicles without the markings.

Obviously making equipment from said war is really no issue but it’s so recent and ongoing that making markers that are in support of a side is really distasteful

But of course. You’re welcome to do as you wish, I personally don’t care too much however i must consider the feelings of those effected by the war!

[pliant cosmos]

we live now in a world where wherever you spit, you hurt someone's feelings.
perhaps I am a bad person, because I do not worry about the feelings of another person whom I do not know and whom I do not see, who may wish me harm, just because I was born under the wrong flag.
but worrying about the feelings of those whom we do not see and for those whom we do not know, for me it is comparable to attempts to limit our creativity, and after all, no one will appreciate that we have limited ourselves in some way.
no one will thank me for refraining from choosing the wrong side, they will still condemn me only for being born in the wrong place, for living in the wrong place, and for the fact that my flag is the wrong color

the discussion on this topic is certainly an interesting thing, but I don't think it can be discussed here

[minor jackal]

maybe you should try not to spit in the first place? does it do you any good?

also, you mention creativity, i personally see no relation between actually making the content and using it to depict a real life invasion where both parties have to suffer due to someone’s elses egos

if creativity is what you are after, feel free to make made up lore, made up vehciles of your choosing, scenarios, what have you.

also, for all intents and purposed this thread (partly because of me) has been derailed enough. There are other channels to continue this if needed

[pliant cosmos]

creativity is an expression of emotions, feelings, experiences, current political problems and so on, so I think such things take place, because I don't impose it on anyone.

[pliant cosmos]

I think we've already discussed everything that needs to be discussed

[rigid topaz]

Move it elsewhere

[odd pivot]

Hey I just switched over to pc can someone tell me the control to switch weapons on the md500

[uneven crest]

V if I remember correctly.

[odd pivot]

Thank you

[craggy quail]

this is still a thing but I have no clue how to repro

23:26:03.956  RESOURCES    : GetResourceObject @"{CE2BCACA842B6D78}Prefabs/Vehicles/Helicopters/R3D_MD500/R3D_MD500_Black_Benches.et"
23:26:03.956   WORLD        : Entity prefab load @"{CE2BCACA842B6D78}Prefabs/Vehicles/Helicopters/R3D_MD500/R3D_MD500_Black_Benches.et"
23:26:03.956    RESOURCES    : GetResourceObject @"{E062556AFF434BCC}Prefabs/Vehicles/Helicopters/R3D_MD500/R3D_MD500_Black.et"
23:26:03.956     WORLD        : Entity prefab load @"{E062556AFF434BCC}Prefabs/Vehicles/Helicopters/R3D_MD500/R3D_MD500_Black.et"
23:26:03.956      RESOURCES    : GetResourceObject @"{88FAC3F123AD348A}Prefabs/Vehicles/Helicopters/R3D_MD500/R3D_MD500_Digital.et"
23:26:03.956       WORLD        : Entity prefab load @"{88FAC3F123AD348A}Prefabs/Vehicles/Helicopters/R3D_MD500/R3D_MD500_Digital.et"
23:26:03.956        RESOURCES    : GetResourceObject @"{6A71496BC5CE46C8}Prefabs/Vehicles/Helicopters/R3D_MD500/R3D_MD500_BASE.et"
23:26:03.956         WORLD        : Entity prefab load @"{6A71496BC5CE46C8}Prefabs/Vehicles/Helicopters/R3D_MD500/R3D_MD500_BASE.et"
23:26:03.956          WORLD     (E): Unknown keyword/data 'Position' at offset 13569(0x3501)
23:26:03.956          WORLD     (E): Unknown keyword/data 'Position' at offset 14097(0x3711)
23:26:03.973  ENTITY       : SpawnEntityInPrefab @"{CE2BCACA842B6D78}Prefabs/Vehicles/Helicopters/R3D_MD500/R3D_MD500_Black_Benches.et"
23:26:03.973   ENTITY       : Create entity @"ENTITY:4611686018427391092" ('R3D_HeliBase','Assets/Vehicles/Helis/MD500/mh6_Base.xob') at <4906.821777 58.099998 8936.874023> @"{CE2BCACA842B6D78}Prefabs/Vehicles/Helicopters/R3D_MD500/R3D_MD500_Black_Benches.et"
23:26:03.973    RESOURCES    : GetResourceObject @"{2E03BAD42B84CC96}Assets/Vehicles/Helis/MD500/data/anim/R3D_MD500.pap"
23:26:03.973     RESOURCES (E): Assets/Vehicles/Helis/MD500/data/anim/R3D_MD500.pap, RotationMake 13318: IOP connection to 7172 not found. Check the project
23:26:05.411  ENTITY       : SpawnEntityInPrefab @"{F99D6F8B160B6AC4}Prefabs/Vehicles/Helicopters/R3D_MD500/Blades/R3D_MD500_BladesTail.et"
23:26:05.411   RENDER       : ----------------------------------------------------------------
23:26:05.411   RENDER       : ----------------------------------------------------------------
23:26:05.411   RENDER       : Rend: Fps:1000000.00 (0.00ms) | Present 0.00ms | Wait4GPU 0.00ms (graphical 0.00 + copy 0.00) | defrag 0.00ms
23:26:05.411   RENDER       : Rend: DP:0000 DPI:0000 DPR:0000 DPID:0000 Tri:00000 Vert:000000 CSRun:00|AllV:00x(00000) AllI:00x(00000) BegV:00x(00000) BegI:00x(00000)|TRes:0220
23:26:05.411   RENDER       : ----------------------------------------------------------------
23:26:05.554   ENGINE    (E): Application crashed! Generated memory dump: C:/Users/x/Documents/My Games/ArmaReforger/logs/logs_2023-06-25_23-25-25\ArmaReforgerSteam_2023-06-25_23-26-05.mdmp

[dense prairie]

@versed lynx

[versed lynx]

That's definitely interesting. Thanks Bacon, will look into it asap

[craggy quail]

it's intermittent, I don't know how to repro it

[craggy quail]

also any chance you can have a look at being able to pickup the rocket pods?

[craggy quail]

I have this happening now on joining a server, so it seems it only happens during JIP/streaming?

Also, is there any word on making the helicopters clean up with garbage collection/entity clearing button? If this only happens for destroyed choppers the garbage collector would eventually remove the entity and people could join the server again

I wish I knew how to repro

[tame vine]

I just had this, and it's happening after a heli is destroyed on the map mod Kunar Province

[versed lynx]

This is interesting, thanks for the report and sorry for the delayed response. I am traveling right now and helicopters will be broken engine-side next patch, but we'll see if we can get it fixed for the future.

[wicked star]

So modded helicopter won’t be working till vanilla ones come out ? @versed lynx

[dense prairie]

Correct

[wicked star]

👍

[craggy quail]

unless someone else fixes them or makes new ones

[wicked star]

Wish them luck must be hella hard

[left thunder]

unless bi fixes the issue in a patch

[craggy quail]

what (in the game) is preventing anyone from making helicopters?

[left thunder]

idk what im hearing its a code

[craggy quail]

so make new code? it's okay if they don't want to spend time fixing it, but that does not make helicopters impossible

[left thunder]

i can already tell ur planning something with that

[craggy quail]

I'm not

[versed lynx]

Impossible to fix engine components, which the VehicleHelicopterSimulation is.
Unless you mean scripting physics for them. We won't be doing that.

You already know all that, just stating it for others here.

[craggy quail]

yeah exactly, it'd be a lot of work and then you get native helis and the effort is kind of wasted

[versed lynx]

We are working on script physics for other things though!

[sudden warren]

Hey, im trying to create a new CaH Map. Now i want to put the chopper on the map. No prob but how can i connect the gun to the chopper? I m a bit new in this because i ve used the vanilla stuff before. This is my first trial with a mod. Do i ve to drag the rack and the gun on the hierarchy on the left and then they are connected?

[sudden warren]

Ahhh, i m a bit slow. There is a AH 6 with an already mounted weapon system. i ve tried to use the civil ones before...

[vestal ice]

hello!!! I've been having this issue for months. It seems that the little bird specifically hides flames for most of the vehicles in the game both vanilla and modded...

the vehicles will show as ON FIRE in the gamemaster description, but VISUALLY no flames will appear

[versed lynx]

Can you replicate this behavior with only R3D_CORE loaded, no other mods? Or does the MD500 specifically have to be loaded as well?

[vestal ice]

I utilize r3d_core a lot and does not generate this issue. It is related only to the MD500 I've also tested it with just the MD500 and I can confirm it is that mod alone causing this bug

[vestal ice]

I wish I could upload a video but I dont have nitro anymore... This screenshot shows that all russian vehicles have no issuesand they burn normally, the us vehicles on the other hand dont work very well when using the MD500 (only us trucks seem to show flames normally).

I've set fire to all vehicles to test this while using only md500 and of course its dependency, which we utilize very often even with other mods and does not give any issue

so it is 100% the md500 thats causing it

[vestal ice]

@versed lynx also this coming from the r3d_core
#enf_mods_feedback message

It is related to the jerrycan

[versed lynx]

Thanks, I will look into this when I get time. Hopefully this weekend

[versed lynx]

This is a known issue. The jerry cans work on non-dedicated servers but are broken on dedi. We will look into it when we have time.

[dense prairie]

Project Redline MD500 has been updated to Version 1.3.0
Patch notes:

v1.0.3
-Fixed broken material link on rotor collider
-Added missing JumpOutAction to compartments
-Fixed broken sounds
-Changed Network component to NwkHeliMovementComponent
-Fixed rpt spam from pap
-Fixed engine startup playing on loop
-Adjusted tail centering force
-Fixed aiming pip```

[kind flint]

Where you've been man, nice to know your back it again

[vestal ice]

Is this fixed???

[cosmic nova]

Is the sight in the AH6 ever going to change? Seems pretty inaccurate at the moment

[solid rapids]

Let's go!

[vestal ice]

this issue persist. How is that nobody is noticing it?????

[dense prairie]

It might have been fixed if you just added one more question mark.

[hollow crater]

Lmao

[primal bane]

What issue? I see a jeep and roflcopter

[rigid topaz]

The fire particle effect is messed up for some reason

[primal bane]

Ah my bad I couldn't tell from a still screenshot.

[bronze mural]

I know they just got fixed so no rush but is anyone else having issues with the helicopters glitching in the ground during engine startup? If so is there an eta on the fix or is it gonna be till the vanilla helicopters are released like normally planned?

[upper coyote]

until the vanillas come out

[minor shadow]

Hm

[wicked pumice]

Is the little bird getting an update with this 1.0?

[undone gorge]

All wocka wockas are, they are just redoing the flight model and controls to fit the vanilla ones

[wicked pumice]

Any update on the MD500?

[solid rapids]

Negatory

[foggy ice]

Will they make a version for 1.0?

[solid rapids]

They said they will just takes time as all helos need to be reworked. This will take time

[bronze mural]

Yeah prob gonna be a while, but will be worth the wait

[limber beacon]

@foggy ice there is a modded helicopter on the workshop similar to this

[frozen quest]

What’s it called?

[wicked pumice]

Huh?

What's the mod called

[wise river]

he's likely talking about this https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/5E98165FF6BC17A1-Ascendancy

[foggy ice]

just knowing that they won't drop the mod is good

[fresh bay]

Cant wait for this thing to re-release, it was my favourite helicopter before and I have no doubt it still will be, I also might have to make a loach reskin

[limber beacon]

Yes British Army Merlin for troop transport and Royal Navy Merlin’s for cargo

[ancient axle]

Its a wildcat brother

[limber beacon]

Correct wildcat, Merlin wip

[ancient axle]

Ohh really? Sorry man i had no idea they was doing a merlin my apologies

[celest schooner]

Will this be come out soon?

[fossil trout]

I hope it does

[obsidian sand]

This should be prioritized over the UH60 mod in my opinion

[gaunt grotto]

Yes

[sweet sigil]

hoping this returns

[solid rapids]

Hopefully this time itll be here to stay

[obsidian sand]

Does anyone have a little bird model they are willing to give up? I feel like making this mod come to life. I don't have money to pay for a model unfortunately

[fair dock]

Could it be you just came out of nowhere and fix every mod just cuz you want man truly a arma mod creator gift🗿

[glacial cedar]

anyone know if this is gling to re-release?

[cosmic nova]

Pretty sure you're talking about the wrong mod. There was a little bird mod that had a ripped model, but it wasn't Redlines.

The showcase on the discord was called MH-6 MELB but it's gone now

[minor jackal]

my bad you are right i stand corrected

[glacial cedar]

so this one might come out then?

[obsidian sand]

Maybe next year

[hard niche]

Maybe next decade

[glacial cedar]

i know theres one being worked on rn its in the workshop

[obsidian sand]

Until I find the time to figure out bones, colliders, and just rigging in general, its gonna be awhile

Its a shame redline can't just reupload theirs so other modders can work off of where they left off

[obsidian sand]

I've been looking at actual models of the little bird all over the internet and there aren't even that many good paid versions available

[glacial cedar]

ja, ive looked too and compared to other helicopters there arent very many abailable

[dense prairie]

Needed more work than I thought to be workable. Will take me another day or so.

[obsidian sand]

Oh you decided to make it functional again yourself? Sweet!

[spring relic]

Any update on this?

[fossil trout]

Fr

[fossil trout]

I guess not

[weak estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/someday-not-tomorrow-not-today-maybe-maybe-not-today-gif-2079436630128123994

[bronze mural]

https://tenor.com/view/growing-old-getting-old-grow-old-old-man-becoming-old-gif-17885988

[fossil trout]

https://tenor.com/view/movie-one-eternity-later-gif-7900643

[minor jackal]

!issuewarning 809947051039260682 779426522150731796 spam / offtopic in modding channel

[torpid sonnet]

Done.
whiskeyxcii#0000 now has 6 infractions.