desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 11:06 AM

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considering that you've asked the question here, then yes. 😉

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 11:07 AM

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cool

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https://puu.sh/te7oI/4d3b54b557.png do pictures work here

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 11:08 AM

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links do

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 11:08 AM

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ah

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 11:10 AM

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So, what issues are you having?

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 11:10 AM

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well those are my specs, i use blastcore phoenix, i got particles and shadows high , 1920x1080 fullscreen, no aa&pp enabled, max 1k view distance, no clouds no pip etc

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i get issues with lags on zooming in on weapon, general stutter when fast turning , and i wont get over 40 fps for some reason

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nothing else but teamspeak and razer cortex game boost is running

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 11:13 AM

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1st rule of Arma is dont compare it to others ("But I get 60+ FPS on xxx")
2. There is nothing wrong with 40 FPS on Arma, many people dont even get that.

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Now, is the lag in MP or SP?

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 11:14 AM

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MP i mostly play invade&annex or on our realsim server (which lags alot more but thats because of tons of mods)

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 11:16 AM

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Unfortunately alot of that is not related to your PC, but everything in the MP environment. Things like distance to server, connection, poor scripts server side, poor server performance/management, etc.

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 11:16 AM

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no we all use the same mod pack , its just alot of it i guess

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 11:16 AM

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Also, an SSD REALLY helps "smooth" things out

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 11:16 AM

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so

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i should move the game from my hdd to my ssd ? i only have 120ssd and arma is kinda big

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 11:18 AM

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I'll put it this way, you'll definitely notice the difference. The other important thing is to consider removing some "bloat" from your server. Less is good. Use only whats necessary.

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Avoid the "but we have LOADS of HDD space on our server, lets just load all the cool mods" mentality

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 11:20 AM

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i didnt make it ;P

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 11:21 AM

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Saw a server the other day with a stupid amount of mods (much > 20) and the comments were "Arma is crap". No mate, youre running too many mods... lol.

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 11:22 AM

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our mod pack is 25gb

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 11:22 AM

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which mods? Sometimes mods conflict with each other.

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RHS and CUP were a notable example (think thats been fixed though)

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 11:24 AM

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uhm the biggest are ace cba cup sma stui tfr , i have not much knowledge of these things

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adding to that i use blastcore dynasound and enhanced soundscape

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 11:25 AM

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thats a bit redundant isnt it?

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2 sound mods?

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 11:26 AM

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i read somewhere they go well with each other

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 11:26 AM

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I'd recommend you test for yourself to see if things improve when one or the other is disabled.

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Also, biggest mod doesnt equate to causing problems.

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 11:27 AM

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aight first things first

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how would i go on about moving the game to ssd in the right way ? i already have a steam library on the ssd , can i just copy it in ?

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 11:29 AM

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tbh I'm not sure. I just deleted mine then reinstalled it.

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 11:39 AM

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do you think realtime virus protection is something that puts additional lag when the game is loading something ?

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i run sophos home, it says there "checks and protects you in real-time from malware ANY time a file is accessed"

cobalt ginkgo Jan 7, 2017, 11:40 AM

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I run Sophos too I dont think its affecting the games at all

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if concerned add Arma3 folder to exclusion list

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 11:41 AM

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yeah good point

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but otherwise sophos is really good

cobalt ginkgo Jan 7, 2017, 11:41 AM

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I run the older version with no web UI, got it from an ISP its ok

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its premium not home

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 11:42 AM

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i dont know about premium

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 12:24 PM

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so

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i backed up my game through steam, deleted the local content / renamed the old folder , and installing it on ssd from the backup

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that should work

fallow remnant Jan 7, 2017, 12:30 PM

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worth noting that you have an AMD FX CPU

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so temper your expectations

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They unfortunately don't perform as well in games as Intel CPUs do.

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 12:31 PM

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well fortunaly they are 300% cheaper for close to the same specs

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fuck intel and their trademark pricing

fallow remnant Jan 7, 2017, 12:31 PM

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"same specs" on paper sure.

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Actually not even on paper, it's a different design

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Anyway, argument isn't over the price - I just meant to answer your question 😃

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 12:32 PM

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the last time i used intel it was a pentium 2

fallow remnant Jan 7, 2017, 12:32 PM

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well, okay 😄

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 12:32 PM

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if i wanted to buy the intel in the same range as my amd i wouldve paid 300 instead of 150

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and im not okay with that

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so i stick with amd 😉

fallow remnant Jan 7, 2017, 12:33 PM

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Actually you could have paid 180

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And got an i5

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And for gaming it would have been better.

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 12:33 PM

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i dont argue with that

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im just saying i dont agree with overpricing and therefore i did not choose them

fallow remnant Jan 7, 2017, 12:34 PM

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Well, that's your call, but just letting you know what's limiting performance in Arma 3! 😛

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 12:34 PM

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i think its more the issue of hdd tbh

fallow remnant Jan 7, 2017, 12:35 PM

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that will contribute too, sure.

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 12:35 PM

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my hdd is from 2009 and might be slow

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so ill try the ssd and see how it goes

fallow remnant Jan 7, 2017, 12:35 PM

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But A3 is very sensitive to CPU and memory bandwidth too.

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So

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That.

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At least Zen/Ryzen is around the corner

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 12:36 PM

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?

fallow remnant Jan 7, 2017, 12:36 PM

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AMD Zen?

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New AMD CPUs

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They call it Ryzen now, though.

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https://techreport.com/review/31105/amd-crests-summit-ridge-with-ryzen-cpus

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 12:37 PM

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well i upgraded the whole thing end of last year so i will not upgrade for another year or so

tall temple Jan 7, 2017, 2:54 PM

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Can someone help me with optimizing ArmA 3 so it doesn't stutter crazy? I watch other people playing it and they don't stutter.

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 2:55 PM

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Does it stutter on Singleplayer?

tall temple Jan 7, 2017, 2:55 PM

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Yes :/

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And I don't feel its my graphics and or CPU

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I have a pretty well off computer.

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 2:56 PM

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define "well off"

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and what are your settings like?

tall temple Jan 7, 2017, 2:56 PM

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As in I have a i7-4790k with over 4.32 GHz and a 1080 GTX Founders

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They're mid to low range, I've been testing different things and stuttering persists so far.

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 2:57 PM

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HDD or SSD?

tall temple Jan 7, 2017, 2:57 PM

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HDD, I haven't had the money to get a SSD for writing data

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Yet at least

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 2:58 PM

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if you'll look at the responses above, you'll see that I mentioned how SSD's "smooth" things out. They really do.

tall temple Jan 7, 2017, 2:59 PM

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Yeah, I realized, so SSD is likely the cause because the drive can't handle the large rendering pool?

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 2:59 PM

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Also, Arma is not like other games where you can Max out your settings and think everything will be fine, it wont.

tall temple Jan 7, 2017, 2:59 PM

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I know that

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 3:00 PM

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partly. Its more than likely a combination of factors.

tall temple Jan 7, 2017, 3:00 PM

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ArmA 3 is extremely rendering intensive and has a lot of generation going on

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I program mods and server code for a server, its really randomized material intensive for stuff like bullet drop which has to be calculated in real time and things of that matter.

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What is just weird is with low settings

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Its still stuttering is all

fallow remnant Jan 7, 2017, 3:01 PM

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yeah stuttering is usually related to HDD

tall temple Jan 7, 2017, 3:01 PM

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And I was wondering if the HDD was the possible cause of such

fallow remnant Jan 7, 2017, 3:01 PM

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And then RAM

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But mostly HDD

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 3:01 PM

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if you set it too low, everything drops to the CPU iirc.

fallow remnant Jan 7, 2017, 3:01 PM

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since the engine keeps loading assets as you move around or zoom in

tall temple Jan 7, 2017, 3:02 PM

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Would it still be fine if I bought a 256 GB SSD then just had my processing through the SSD and my storage on my 1TB HDD?

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And I should be fine with RAM I have 16 GB DDR4

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 3:03 PM

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I have a 3rd gen i5 and a gtx 970, I dont stutter. Its all about finding the right balance. I have my OS on an SSD and I have Arma on a separate SSD, everything else is on HDDs

fallow remnant Jan 7, 2017, 3:05 PM

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i have the same storage config^

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Or well, at the moment i'm running it on a 128GB SSD that has both my OS and Arma, because laptop.

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 3:07 PM

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My laptop is almost identical to my Destktop (3rd gen i5, no 970 obv.) but with a 500GB SSD

tall temple Jan 7, 2017, 3:09 PM

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Well 256 is like 60-80 bucks which is why

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 3:10 PM

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Yeah, having Arma as a hobby is never cheap.

tall temple Jan 7, 2017, 3:17 PM

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60-80 bucks is pretty cheap

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For what SSD used to be

desert isle Jan 7, 2017, 3:27 PM

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its all relative. If you dont have 60-80, its expensive.

earnest heart Jan 7, 2017, 4:48 PM

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FWIW there's a '64-bit executable' on dev branch that anecdotally's been cutting down on stutter, but unfortunately no ETA on when it comes to stable branch 😦 but if you don't mind some gigs' download (I have no idea how many in your case) you can give it a go

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 5:08 PM

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https://puu.sh/temmp/96f8112c37.png now whats this error supposed to mean

uncut trellis Jan 7, 2017, 5:26 PM

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where did you get it from?

fringe salmon Jan 7, 2017, 7:22 PM

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hello some one there?

sharp phoenix Jan 7, 2017, 7:28 PM

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Hey we get random crashes with our Gameserver:

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2017/01/07, 20:11:11 5e35e040# 779404: invisibleman.p3d REMOTE: Getting out while IsMoveOutInProgress

Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 01464E46

fallow remnant Jan 7, 2017, 10:01 PM

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well...today while mission testing 3 of us got memory related crashes

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very random

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i myself did not

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something like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/104982724762157056/267380619552620545/unknown.png

fringe hamlet Jan 8, 2017, 1:17 AM

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@sharp phoenix, you could try the applicable possible solutions listed here https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Unusual_process_exit#0xC0000005_-_ACCESS_VIOLATION

bronze obsidian Jan 8, 2017, 2:24 PM

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Does anyone have any tips on adjusting the joystick inputs? I am using a steam controller. When I try to fly a helicopter, the cyclic inputs are halved vs those of the keyboard. Starting on autohover, I can raise the nose about 12.5 degrees initially with the joystick, but the keyboard will skyrocket to 25 degrees initially

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The same scaling applies for rolling.

cinder pewter Jan 8, 2017, 5:09 PM

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@bronze obsidian yes, bind cyclic to both axis of your joystick. for some reason this is what solves the problem on my hotas warthog

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i.e axis X+ and axis X- to cyclic up, and the same to cyclic down

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it will mark as red as in a double bind, but it will work as you wish probably

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it has to do with arma having really weird joystick compatibility

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i.e if you don't use the same 0-255 values that arma has conceptualized for every joystick out there, then you're screwed

bronze obsidian Jan 8, 2017, 6:22 PM

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How do I go about doing that?

lost fjord Jan 8, 2017, 7:32 PM

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Anyone else have trouble toggling GPS?

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It worked in the prologue but after that it never worked.

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I've tried rebinding the keys and still same result.

fallow remnant Jan 8, 2017, 11:08 PM

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@lost fjord what do you mean, the GPS minimap thing on the HUD?

bronze obsidian Jan 9, 2017, 12:07 AM

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@cinder pewter how do I go about binding both axis to the joystick

lost fjord Jan 9, 2017, 12:13 AM

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@fallow remnant Yes

fallow remnant Jan 9, 2017, 12:46 AM

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@lost fjord Right Ctrl + M works for me, never had a problem with it.

Oh wait, do you mean you were playing single player, and it worked in the prologue part of the campaign, and after that it didn't? If that's the case then you probably don't have a GPS equipped (check inventory). And if you do have it equipped, then idk 😐

lost fjord Jan 9, 2017, 1:02 AM

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I press Right Ctrl+M worked in prologue then after that never worked.

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Yes I have a gps

cobalt ginkgo Jan 9, 2017, 1:18 AM

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mission might have showGps=0; param on

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Description.ext#showGPS

lost fjord Jan 9, 2017, 5:02 AM

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I play King of the Hill, people in there can toggle it on just for me it wont work for some reason.

cobalt ginkgo Jan 9, 2017, 5:06 AM

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Options > Controls and check keybinds.. also it might not work in some of the vehicles, but on foot should

lost fjord Jan 9, 2017, 5:13 AM

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I tried rebinding, tried on foot and in vehicle still wont work for me.

cobalt ginkgo Jan 9, 2017, 5:22 AM

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hmm try reseting your profile

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set it all to default

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if that wont work then might want to delete your player profile, shut the game down and delete the entire folder in Documents > Arma 3

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( make a backup of it first! )

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Note that it will delete all your missions if there were any you made and all the stats/game saves

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campaign progress* might be reset aswell

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once you delete that run the game again and it will recreate those folder and setup your profile again, and video settings and chit... yeah must do it all from point blank

lost fjord Jan 9, 2017, 5:26 AM

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ive tried fresh installs

cobalt ginkgo Jan 9, 2017, 5:26 AM

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fresh install of game wont remove profiles

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thats why it get back no matter how many times you reinstall it

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http://i.imgur.com/ljqo1tb.png

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see that? Uninstalling the game wont remove it, so when you reinstall all settings are there

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OR

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dont delete it but create NEW profile ( new player name )

lost fjord Jan 9, 2017, 5:30 AM

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Ohh yeah i forgot about profiles

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Yeah I'll try a new profile see if that fixes it or delete existing ones, I've got a backup of my main profile.

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yep still

uncut trellis Jan 9, 2017, 1:50 PM

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Just to make sure you have the gps item in your inventory?

paper forum Jan 9, 2017, 3:12 PM

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You know that when your driving over 145km/h, roads will disappear on the GPS?:-P

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Is that on purpose?

uncut trellis Jan 9, 2017, 3:13 PM

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Might be that Arma is not designed for highspeed driving.

paper forum Jan 9, 2017, 3:13 PM

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Then don't make vehicles drive faster :D

fringe hamlet Jan 9, 2017, 3:13 PM

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The mini-map zooms out as the player's speed increases.

uncut trellis Jan 9, 2017, 3:13 PM

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Vanilla or mods?

paper forum Jan 9, 2017, 3:14 PM

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Vanilla

uncut trellis Jan 9, 2017, 3:14 PM

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if its the zoom out then thats an engine thing

paper forum Jan 9, 2017, 3:14 PM

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I don't know if its zooming out though

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Will check it tonight

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You can easily try it with the hatchback sport

fringe hamlet Jan 9, 2017, 3:20 PM

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The mini-map zooms out as the player's speed increases.

Once the speed goes past a certain point then the map zooms out so far as to not show minor roads.

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Same thing occurs when opening the main map and zooming out. Minor roads are only shown when zoomed in close.

paper forum Jan 9, 2017, 3:21 PM

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That's a pitty

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I thought main was also disappearing for me

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But thanks for explaining :-D

fringe hamlet Jan 9, 2017, 3:23 PM

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👍

uncut trellis Jan 9, 2017, 3:41 PM

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Arma isnt exactly a racing game. Even though they made the karts dlc.

fringe hamlet Jan 9, 2017, 3:42 PM

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Which started out as an April fools joke.

blissful bramble Jan 9, 2017, 3:53 PM

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and alas, the karts don't do 100+ kph

fallow remnant Jan 9, 2017, 4:56 PM

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It's still kinda weird to do that though

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Maybe it makes sense on some level

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But it seems more to provide a unified system

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In which case they should probably split it into zoom levels for infantry/vehicles/aircraft

uneven solar Jan 9, 2017, 5:35 PM

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anyone fammiliar with the A3Launcher not bootin the game up? i have tried evertything i can think of but when i try to load into a server its as if the launcher isnt commmunicating with the game itself to initiate start up.
Thanks in advance.

soft acorn Jan 9, 2017, 8:05 PM

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can anyone tell me what sMerS is in the netlog?

fringe hamlet Jan 10, 2017, 1:15 AM

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@Fuel#4176, for context could you paste the line it's on with code formatting?

still thunder Jan 10, 2017, 2:01 AM

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People i'm having serious problems on multiplayer of arma 3, in every server, doesn't matter if it is with 1 or 2 players, the game just lags like hell on earth and i don't know what to do, i tried literally everything and got no solution. Pc specs: gtx 760 2gb, I5 4440 3.5ghz, 8gb ram. My singleplayer is very clean in graphics, i can use veryhigh with 60fps + someone can help me?

sharp phoenix Jan 10, 2017, 2:11 AM

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What kind of servers are you joining? Do you have an SSD? Can you check the RPT's ?

still thunder Jan 10, 2017, 2:15 AM

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I'm a brazilian so...

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But even in 80ping servers in brazil i have to put on low settings, and even that i get low fps

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30fps flopping

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no ssd and what is rpt?

fringe hamlet Jan 10, 2017, 2:19 AM

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what is rpt?
See https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Crash_Files#Arma_3

still thunder Jan 10, 2017, 2:23 AM

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oh thanks 😄

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yeah i caan check it

sharp phoenix Jan 10, 2017, 2:25 AM

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But 30 FPS is quite normal

still thunder Jan 10, 2017, 2:26 AM

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but even on low settings is chopping

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starts to freeze

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when i zoom in in an area starts to freeze

sharp phoenix Jan 10, 2017, 2:34 AM

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Did you check the RPT files? How big are they for example had friends having problems because disk.io was killed during rpt log spam

still thunder Jan 10, 2017, 2:49 AM

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all rpt 2mb

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all that arma archive is using 233mb

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but rpt only 2mb

fringe hamlet Jan 10, 2017, 3:24 AM

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An arma3.rpt that's 2 MB is pretty big.

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Try using the -noLogs startup parameter. https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Startup_Parameters

still thunder Jan 10, 2017, 3:37 AM

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no no

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the rpts are like 50kb + 70kb

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i just have calculated the amount of usage

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and i'm using nologs too, even with that nothing changes

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using this parameters: -noLogs -enableHT -hugePages -world=empty

fringe hamlet Jan 10, 2017, 3:40 AM

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What version and branch of the game?

still thunder Jan 10, 2017, 3:52 AM

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Stable version

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1.66.0.139586

fringe hamlet Jan 10, 2017, 3:52 AM

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-hugepages
Profiling Branch only
Enables hugepages with the default memory allocator (malloc) for both client/server (https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/160288-arma-3-stable-server-166-performance-binary-feedback/?page=74#comment-3130011)
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Startup_Parameters#Performance

still thunder Jan 10, 2017, 4:02 AM

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so download profiling branch and

uncut trellis Jan 10, 2017, 4:12 AM

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that will probably limit your server selection

fringe hamlet Jan 10, 2017, 4:13 AM

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Profiling branch does not affect the ability to play on multiplayer servers. That would be the development branch.

uncut trellis Jan 10, 2017, 4:14 AM

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alright my mistake. carry on! 😄

still thunder Jan 10, 2017, 4:26 AM

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Sorry about my delay haha, stopped working discord

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So, i have to download only profiling branch? Client and server, and change them into the arma 3 folder?

still thunder Jan 10, 2017, 6:43 AM

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So... no much help.... :/

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helped with at leasdt some of the shooting lag issue

soft acorn Jan 10, 2017, 10:02 AM

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@fringe hamlet ```
2416.833: Ch(63):sMerS(2146917902,3323,5,1348)

full swan Jan 10, 2017, 2:23 PM

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Hey guys, I'm getting an obnoxious error with my P drive

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MakePBO keeps returning issues with "Permission denied" when trying to compile our modification

paper forum Jan 10, 2017, 2:34 PM

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Is there any log?

cobalt ginkgo Jan 10, 2017, 2:35 PM

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is P drive mounted? pboproject path pointing to P drive?

faint dawn Jan 10, 2017, 2:40 PM

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Is Arma still open?

cobalt ginkgo Jan 10, 2017, 2:58 PM

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☝🏻

full swan Jan 10, 2017, 3:13 PM

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hm

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well the LAUNCHER is still open

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let me close that

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/193787197550231552/268396991342444545/unknown.png

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there is the error

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still happening

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MakePbo: Building entries:...
$PBOPREFIX$ : configuring
CfgCLibLocalisation.hpp : ignored or merged
CfgCLibModules.hpp : ignored or merged
config.cpp scanning config.bin.cfgPatches...
ok
config.bin: 'Permission denied'
config.bin
In File P:\pr\PRA3\addons\PRA3_Server\config.cpp: Line 21 Cannot write to file

Generalised lintcheck error


Press the ANY key

faint dawn Jan 10, 2017, 3:19 PM

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Yep

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This is broken.

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(btw.: #arma3_config might be the better place)

cobalt ginkgo Jan 10, 2017, 3:21 PM

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config.bin?

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odd entry never seen config.bin while packing in the logs

full swan Jan 10, 2017, 3:26 PM

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@faint dawn broken?

faint dawn Jan 10, 2017, 3:32 PM

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It was a "joke". Just pointing out the obvious 😛 (still: you might get more help in #arma3_config )

full swan Jan 10, 2017, 3:32 PM

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oh

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lol

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okay

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I'll ask there

fringe salmon Jan 10, 2017, 9:11 PM

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Alrighty. (Hi Bluedrake), I have an issue where I can hear ALL of my sounds perfectly at the volume they are supposed to be. But... whenever I'm in FIRST PERSON, the sound of my gun shooting is super quiet. The sound of the bullet hitting the door/ground/metal is louder than the gunshot, so much so you can't hear the gunshot.

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It's only for firstperson.

toxic horizon Jan 10, 2017, 11:51 PM

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Hello, so i have a server. But when you are far away, you can't hear the other guys. There is this annoying noise. And when you get closer to eachother, the noise is gone??? 😃 [TaskForceRadio]

desert isle Jan 11, 2017, 12:16 AM

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@toxic horizon sounds like a task force radio (TFAR) problem

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@fringe salmon are you using any mods?

toxic horizon Jan 11, 2017, 12:17 AM

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It is, it's for everyone we are running 0.9.8 And all cups.

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The kilometers, are 5km

desert isle Jan 11, 2017, 12:18 AM

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Best to ask the developer of TFAR don't you think?

toxic horizon Jan 11, 2017, 12:19 AM

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Well that sounds complicated....

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Thought some of you guys might had the same problem

fringe salmon Jan 11, 2017, 12:19 AM

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No, I'm not.

desert isle Jan 11, 2017, 12:20 AM

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It is always best to ask the developer of a mod than the "random public" lest you get an incorrect answer.

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@fringe salmon no mods and no steam workshop downloads? Pure vanilla Arma?

fringe salmon Jan 11, 2017, 12:25 AM

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Yep

desert isle Jan 11, 2017, 12:29 AM

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That is odd.

fringe salmon Jan 11, 2017, 12:31 AM

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I know!

vocal lantern Jan 11, 2017, 12:32 AM

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Which weapon? and DLCs?

desert isle Jan 11, 2017, 12:33 AM

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^

fringe salmon Jan 11, 2017, 12:39 AM

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apex

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And all

vocal lantern Jan 11, 2017, 1:05 AM

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👀

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well that is not normal.. few thoughts that come to mind. positional soundfu fail (ie.. speaker setup wrong perhaps (missing center channel)), number of sound samples (move it up/down, check), and umm... verify the install via steam if you haven't.

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probably do steam first if not done alraedy.

cobalt ginkgo Jan 11, 2017, 1:32 AM

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But when you are far away, you can't hear the other guys.

And which radio do you use? Are you aware that personal radios have limited range? TO hear a player on the other side of the map you need Long Range Radio - LRR, handelds have limited range, 5km most, and terrain can affect its signal. If you are behind a hill signal will degrade, etc... read the ... manual

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on top of all that there are radio channels and frequencies, so make sure you all use same channel and frequency

feral brook Jan 11, 2017, 2:21 AM

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Is there any way to unbinerize a mission file without opening and resaving?

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Made a mission a year ago, changed mod packs, no longer have the mods, want to salvage the mission, but it's binarized.

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I've tried sifting through it and every time i change anything it breaks the file.

chrome thicket Jan 11, 2017, 12:12 PM

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@feral brook I dont think so. I guess if you wanna experiment you can make a copy of the binarized mission,rename it into config.cpp, use cfg converter from arma 3 tools and see what happens. Im guessing since the game reads both files binarized its possible that its the same binarization

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But im not expert or anything so i dont know what will happen

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I got a question to ask guys/ I've been working on a WW2 mission using Ace, IFA3, Len SS packs,TFAR and some other small mods. The trouble im having is with the editor. when i made the mission file the first time and ran it in single player it all worked fine. Then what happened is that i added some simple tasks using task modules and after that i was no longer able to test the mission. If i started it in single player my camera would just be in the sky looking down at the ground just like when you dont have a player character. If i try it in multiplayer,on a lan server,after i select the role and start the mission,after it loads i would just get that normal pop up window saying "Mission failed" and get returned to the lobby. Has anybody experienced this before and/or knows what the issue might be and how to fix it? Be aware, I do have a player and other playable characters. Also,the mission works in singleplayer if i try to control a non playable character (Right clik on it> Play as the character).

wise barn Jan 11, 2017, 12:20 PM

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#arma3_scenario @chrome thicket

chrome thicket Jan 11, 2017, 12:21 PM

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This is a trouble with the editor tho because any other mission i tried did the same

wise barn Jan 11, 2017, 12:22 PM

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anyway the best place to hope for an answer

chrome thicket Jan 11, 2017, 12:23 PM

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k

feral brook Jan 11, 2017, 2:27 PM

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@chrome thicket you dont have a unit set as 'player' so the game doesnt put you in one when you start sp.

chrome thicket Jan 11, 2017, 6:06 PM

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@feral brook Thats the problem,i do

feral brook Jan 11, 2017, 6:16 PM

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The unit isn't like in the air / ground or any other reason why it would get killed immediately?

neat mica Jan 11, 2017, 6:31 PM

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I've had a spawning player crushed by being too close to an object or spawning vehicle

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but it sounds like the only thing he changed was to add some modules

feral brook Jan 11, 2017, 7:40 PM

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Remove modules, see if it fixes it.

desert isle Jan 12, 2017, 8:12 AM

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and then its only "extra crispy"

rare sand Jan 12, 2017, 3:06 PM

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my firend has a issue (when ever he starts arma3 his audio disaperes ) he has a logatech G35 and is using the software if thats any help ? (he has lots of logitech items)

fallow remnant Jan 12, 2017, 5:02 PM

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is it a USB headset?

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Maybe the game isn't detecting the change in audio device in that case

rare sand Jan 12, 2017, 5:11 PM

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its usb (so is mine and it works fine(

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only thing is i dont use logatehc software (crap as it as)

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but during my testing i had the logatech software and its fine on my end

fallow remnant Jan 12, 2017, 6:01 PM

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i don't know then

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i have a cheap logitech USB headset too

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works fine

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but for example if i plug it in or unplug it while the game is running then i lose sound, as the game doesn't change audio devices

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So i'm assuming it's something related to that

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but apart from that i don't know, he could try uninstalling logitech's software.

ebon venture Jan 12, 2017, 7:22 PM

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im getting errors lately with DXGI and i have the newest drivers installed and it "can" work if i spam the play button in the launcher a few processes of arma 3 are oben then run at 17k and one that runs normal but its super anoying

tiny current Jan 13, 2017, 5:58 AM

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MYSQL-PHP QUESTION
hey how can i order my query by a sum of a array with multiple numbers ?
this is my query:

$sql = "SELECT * FROM players ORDER BY playtime DESC LIMIT 10";

and the playtime is for example this: "[3117,526,1921]"
now i want to sum the numbers inside the array and order it by that
every number in that array is for a faction (west,independent,civilian) in minutes

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 9:32 AM

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Hello! noob editor here. I'm having a problem with a template I made, it's not loading properly when I uploaded it to a multiplayer server. it goes back to the mission selection screen after it flashes a blank role selection screen for like, half a second. How do I fix this? Thanks in advance. 😃

fringe hamlet Jan 13, 2017, 9:37 AM

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@blissful python, could you please post this template?

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 9:38 AM

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@fringe hamlet like, the PBO file?

fringe hamlet Jan 13, 2017, 9:38 AM

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"I'm having a problem with a template I made,"

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 9:40 AM

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oh, template is not the proper word, I guess. it's a mission file, sorry. was trying to make a mission file through eden, I tested it there and it worked just fine, but when I converted it to PBO and uploaded it to a server, it doesn't let me select a role and just goes back to the mission selection screen

fringe hamlet Jan 13, 2017, 9:41 AM

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In this mission, did you check "player" or "playable" on any man?

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 9:42 AM

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I selected 'playable' on all characters I placed (24 of them)

fringe hamlet Jan 13, 2017, 9:51 AM

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Okay. Could you take a look at the arma3.rpt (client) and arma3server.rpt (server) files and search for any errors or messages that appear, @blissful python.

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 9:52 AM

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got it, checking now. thanks!

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hmm.. most of the error files i noticed go like this: 16:26:21 Error: Bone cheek_lf doesn't exist in skeleton OFP2_ManSkeleton

fringe hamlet Jan 13, 2017, 9:59 AM

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Any results for Mission file:?

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 9:59 AM

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16:26:18 Error: Bone slot_backwpnl doesn't exist in skeleton OFP2_ManSkeleton

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hmm.. I don't believe there are any

fringe hamlet Jan 13, 2017, 10:14 AM

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Does the folder and file structure of the mission look like the following?

mpmissions\missionName.mapName.pbo\mission.sqm

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From the Arma 3 Server root directory.

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 10:18 AM

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yes, that's what it looks like

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plus a file called description.ext

fringe hamlet Jan 13, 2017, 10:41 AM

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Not sure what else to ask. Might be easier if I try it on a server, if you're okay with uploading the mission that is.

cobalt ginkgo Jan 13, 2017, 10:45 AM

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#arma3_scenario >>

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your issue is most likely broken mod

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 10:53 AM

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@fringe hamlet sure! you want me to send you the mission file? it has quite a few mods on it though
@cobalt ginkgo yeah, I figured the same thing, but I swear I tried uploading an earlier version of this to the server and it worked fine. added a few vanilla assets, re-uploaded, and now it's broken. I just started messing around with the editor, so..

cobalt ginkgo Jan 13, 2017, 10:54 AM

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server and client rpt is your friend

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any problems there, mission will likely not work

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 10:55 AM

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rpt is you ONLY friend

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 10:55 AM

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but they all look too... technical for me. haha

cobalt ginkgo Jan 13, 2017, 10:55 AM

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error: or warning:

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= problem

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 10:56 AM

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your second best friend: pboProject

cobalt ginkgo Jan 13, 2017, 10:56 AM

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lines after mission loading are releavant to mission all before it is mods and the game

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can pboProject pack missions?

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 10:56 AM

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yes

cobalt ginkgo Jan 13, 2017, 10:56 AM

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oh.. I got older version it cant

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 10:56 AM

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but you need P set up

cobalt ginkgo Jan 13, 2017, 10:56 AM

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😄 yeah

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 10:57 AM

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are we allowed to post screenshots here?

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 10:57 AM

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if hot babes involved, yes

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 10:57 AM

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lol no. more technical stuff

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xD

cobalt ginkgo Jan 13, 2017, 10:57 AM

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NSFW allowed

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it wont embed however

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 10:58 AM

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oh yeah, no embed button :p

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but here

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http://imgur.com/a/Dv2Vk

cobalt ginkgo Jan 13, 2017, 10:59 AM

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aww is that your private mod?

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 10:59 AM

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nothing maks debugging better than an animated hot girl dance gif saying "uuhm honey, you're missing a ; in line 12986"

cobalt ginkgo Jan 13, 2017, 10:59 AM

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its bricked

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whatever is your model its missing model.cfg or is broken

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 11:00 AM

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^i wish debugging was that fun.

@cobalt ginkgo I have one private mod, yes

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 11:00 AM

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you're trying to repack binarized animations.

cobalt ginkgo Jan 13, 2017, 11:00 AM

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busted 👏🏻

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 11:01 AM

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so this mission file is broken then. lol

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 11:01 AM

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no, not rly

cobalt ginkgo Jan 13, 2017, 11:01 AM

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no your mod is

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 11:01 AM

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launch the mission and c/p the last rpt to pastebin.com

cobalt ginkgo Jan 13, 2017, 11:02 AM

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well good luck but Id say remove the broken mod first from the server and from the mission and try again

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and then do what Chris said.. gotta run 🏃🏻

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 11:03 AM

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yeah, i'll try to do some cleaning up on the mission file and re-launch the mission. if it still crashes, I'll put it on pastebin

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 11:03 AM

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do it in current state. i'm interested in what you have atm

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 11:03 AM

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copy.

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@cobalt ginkgo thanks for responding 😄

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@wise barn here you go http://pastebin.com/ZHFr0HxN

fringe hamlet Jan 13, 2017, 11:15 AM

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@blissful python, guess not after all if there are mods.

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 11:16 AM

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you are clearly running some fucked up mods

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 11:16 AM

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yeah, there's quite a lot in there @fringe hamlet haha

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 11:16 AM

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17:44:17 Conflicting addon BaBe_EM_Anims in 'babe_em\c_anm_em\', previous definition in 'babe_em\c_anm\'```

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 11:17 AM

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will try removing mods and and re-launching. I think I know exactly which ones

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 11:17 AM

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BaBe_EM_Anims is most likely causing the bone errors

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not just most likely, im pretty sure 'bout that

blissful python Jan 13, 2017, 11:19 AM

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alright, I'll remove that one, see if it works. 😄 thanks!

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 11:26 AM

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strange thing is, i can't seem to find those conflicting mods in your mod string... are they burried inside another mod?

slow abyss Jan 13, 2017, 11:29 AM

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You mean the "PHIL"? It's probably the AFP (Armed forces of philippines)

uncut trellis Jan 13, 2017, 11:31 AM

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BaBe is BadBensons right?

slow abyss Jan 13, 2017, 11:31 AM

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yeah, enhanced movement

uncut trellis Jan 13, 2017, 11:31 AM

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ah EM

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makes sense 😄

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 11:36 AM

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EM?

cobalt ginkgo Jan 13, 2017, 11:37 AM

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no ahem ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

uncut trellis Jan 13, 2017, 11:40 AM

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BaBE_EM = Bad Benson Enhanced Movement

cobalt ginkgo Jan 13, 2017, 11:41 AM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=333310405

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 2:22 PM

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okayyyy

vocal lantern Jan 13, 2017, 2:23 PM

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😆

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 2:24 PM

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Looks good tbh, haven't heard of it before. Where is the downside? 😄

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 2:25 PM

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i keep getting kicked for signature check timed out can some 1 plz help me

vocal lantern Jan 13, 2017, 2:25 PM

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👀

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runs away to the coffee maker...

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 2:29 PM

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already has his coffee

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@sour sentinel
either you have the wrong keys, or you are running mods that are not allowed

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 2:30 PM

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or your network connections is wayyy too slow (speed = banana).

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 2:34 PM

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how do i know if i have to wrong keys? and how do i fix it

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 2:34 PM

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check your rpt and update your mods

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 2:36 PM

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whats an rtp

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rot

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rpt

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 2:37 PM

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it's some sort of rash dump

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*crash

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if something goes wrong it's gonna be logged there

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 2:37 PM

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*logfile

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 2:38 PM

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👆

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 2:44 PM

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i c it

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what am i looking for in it

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 2:45 PM

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error messages

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 2:48 PM

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i c the error messages know what?

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 2:49 PM

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what?

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 2:50 PM

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now sorry i just woke up im a little out of it

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i c the error messages what do i do now

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 3:09 PM

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Bone doesn't exist in skeleton OFP2_ManSkeleton

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its the same thing over and over for different parts

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 3:20 PM

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search for "sign" <- ? Maybe? An Idea?

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Therefor: What kind of Server you wanna join?

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 3:22 PM

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exile

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 3:24 PM

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Have you installed exile?

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Is it activated in the A3-Launcher?

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Does the Server need other Addons?

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 3:24 PM

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yes

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 3:24 PM

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to what?

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 3:25 PM

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i installed exile and its in a3 yes the sever needs other addons

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theres a ton of messages like this in the rtp

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18:13:12 Error: Bone nose_tip doesn't exist in skeleton OFP2_ManSkeleton

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 3:28 PM

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ignore them

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For the rest of the addons -> Look for their Downloads, download it, install it, if you got further probs -> You better move on their Teamspeak =}

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 3:29 PM

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whats the link?

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 3:30 PM

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the fuck do i know?! oO

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http://www.google.com

Search the world's information, including webpages, images, videos and more. Google has many special features to help you find exactly what you're looking for.

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oO

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 3:32 PM

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i cant even play mp without mods

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 3:33 PM

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KingOfTheHill without mods

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 3:33 PM

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cant

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 3:37 PM

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c/p your last rpt to pastebin.com

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 3:38 PM

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inb4 "Whats pastebin"
http://pastebin.com

Pastebin

Pastebin.com - #1 paste tool since 2002!

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 3:40 PM

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c/p your last rpt to pastebin.com
i'm thinking of creating a key macro for that phrase 😂

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 3:41 PM

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😄

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 3:44 PM

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i did

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 3:45 PM

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and where is the link to your paste?

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 3:47 PM

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file:///C:/Users/Fredo/AppData/Local/Arma%203/arma3_2017-01-11_18-03-04.rpt

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 3:47 PM

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seriously?

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 3:49 PM

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lmfao

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 3:49 PM

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ok... again...

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open your rpt in an editor

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copy all

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paste it on pastebin.com

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post the link from your paste on pastebin.com here

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 3:51 PM

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http://pastebin.com/hFH0vPGS

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 3:57 PM

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this rpt is two days old

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i need your latest

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 3:57 PM

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lmfao

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 3:58 PM

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also, what's the server you are trying to connect?

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 4:00 PM

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that is my latest

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 4:01 PM

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So you say, the last time you played was on

Current time:  2017/01/11 18:03:06``` ?

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2 days ago?

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 4:02 PM

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the last time i tryed ima try to connent and send you that the 1

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 4:02 PM

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If you want any help, give the information that are needed, otherwise you will be treated as troll and ignored.

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Yeah, i am out then.

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 4:05 PM

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http://pastebin.com/EgVzeZLd

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sorry thats the newest

cobalt ginkgo Jan 13, 2017, 4:07 PM

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15:51:46 addons\a3.pbo - unknown

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verify integrity

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 4:08 PM

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From yesterday? Are you sure?

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 4:08 PM

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yes

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 4:08 PM

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15:56:24 Malformed data received. Setting default server data.
15:56:24 Malformed data. Total count differs. expected: 2, got: 3. serverip: 1298531676, serverport: 2303```
whats that Oo

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 4:09 PM

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ok... delete ALL rpt files
start vanilla arma
connect to an offical server
close the game
post the rpt again

cobalt ginkgo Jan 13, 2017, 4:10 PM

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disregard my last... seem like its same for me too 15:18:38 addons\a3.pbo - unknown

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 4:10 PM

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doing it now now

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 4:26 PM

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http://pastebin.com/6X4KwBLe

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 4:27 PM

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lemme guess... it worked?

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oh and btw... KotH is not an offical server

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 4:30 PM

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i didnt work i still got kicked

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 4:31 PM

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what error message came up?

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 4:31 PM

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it just said you have been kicked

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 4:33 PM

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does this happen on an offical server too?

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i mean no KotH / Exile / life bullshit

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also no wasteland and whatsoever

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 4:34 PM

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ima try

faint dawn Jan 13, 2017, 4:40 PM

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He started with Addons (my bet)

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 4:55 PM

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it works fine

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 4:56 PM

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ok, in this case your game is all right.

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from now on the server admins need to help you

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to be sure verify your game via steam

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this also includes the mods afaik

sour sentinel Jan 13, 2017, 4:58 PM

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i did

wise barn Jan 13, 2017, 4:58 PM

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then try again connecting to your fav server. if there are still errors, contact the server admins / communities

fringe salmon Jan 13, 2017, 6:21 PM

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http://puu.sh/tl87V/09aef3636b.png

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where did my arma3.exe go o7

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Oh well i can open it through the folder

timid wyvern Jan 14, 2017, 3:17 AM

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Hey guys and gals. I was recomended this channel by someone after recently getting issues while playing arma. I mainly play Wasteland mod by Sa-Matra, have been playing arma since the Beta. Never had any problems. But recently (basically after New Year) i have been running into massive crashes in game. I appear to be the only on running into this that i have seen.

Basically the game still runs, (textures go to almost 8-bit!) but the FPS goes right down to the 4-5-6 mark, and then will completely crash computer the only way to exit is to actually restart PC.

I was told I should switch to the profiling branch and try the performance binary. ( I have no idea what all that is/will it help?)

Can anyone recommend what to do?

I'm also using Bitdefender... I've had other games/programs which do not get along well with Bitdefender for some reason so thought I would mention.

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i have pictures of what happens in game, but i'm abiut to fall asleep here so i'll post in the morning if thats allowed on here.

brittle pumice Jan 14, 2017, 4:37 AM

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same prob

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after every possible solutions

uncut trellis Jan 14, 2017, 4:41 AM

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Many have had troubles with latest graphics card drivers. Have you guys tried older driver versions?

brittle pumice Jan 14, 2017, 4:42 AM

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We thought it might be that

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but we had an guy using older driver but still getting that prob

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actually two

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And i know it since i watched theirs on Teamviewer

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So driver not the prob

desert isle Jan 14, 2017, 7:49 AM

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What you guys are experiencing is what the community are referring to as the "3 FPS bug"

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https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/195444-possible-fix-for-the-3-fps-drop-issue/

Bohemia Interactive Forums

Possible fix for the "3 FPS Drop" Issue

There is a potential progress on the issue some players are experiencing (drastic performance drops which only a game restart fixes). We have reports from s...

brittle pumice Jan 14, 2017, 11:16 AM

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Seen this done this not helping 😦

uncut trellis Jan 14, 2017, 2:23 PM

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does it crash without mods?

timid wyvern Jan 14, 2017, 2:46 PM

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haven't tried without mods. but according to the people on the WS discord no one else has had this problem

uncut trellis Jan 14, 2017, 3:13 PM

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Then it is likely its something to do with your computer/hardware/windows/other programs than the game

woven walrus Jan 14, 2017, 5:11 PM

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Anyone know anything about ace3?

wise barn Jan 14, 2017, 5:19 PM

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what do you wanna know?

woven walrus Jan 14, 2017, 5:21 PM

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I'm having trouble with climbing

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I get the can't climb here message on objects that I can see my squadmates climb no problem

wise barn Jan 14, 2017, 5:22 PM

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if it's a bug i suggest speaking to the devs
https://slackin.ace3mod.com/

woven walrus Jan 14, 2017, 5:24 PM

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I can climb ontop of things that are about waist height it's really weird.

fringe salmon Jan 14, 2017, 7:54 PM

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why does arma has to be so fucking retarded

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16g ram 8g video 4g 8core cpu , everything on low, get below 30 fps

desert isle Jan 14, 2017, 8:09 PM

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Arma favours cpus with higher single core performance rather than one with a lot of cores. Secondly, if you're running everything on low, you're pushing everything to the cpu rather than the gpu.

fringe salmon Jan 14, 2017, 10:17 PM

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honestly i have no clue how to fix to playable fps

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i think i tried everything so far

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someone with good pc knowledge able to go into a private session with me and try good settings for my spec? including parameters and whatnot

cobalt ginkgo Jan 14, 2017, 10:20 PM

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is it AMD based PC?

fringe salmon Jan 14, 2017, 10:20 PM

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yes

cobalt ginkgo Jan 14, 2017, 10:21 PM

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join the club

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it favors Intel / Nvidia lots

fringe salmon Jan 14, 2017, 10:22 PM

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favouring and not in favour but playable should be little different

cobalt ginkgo Jan 14, 2017, 10:22 PM

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30 fps is good for arma if thats MP framerate

fringe salmon Jan 14, 2017, 10:22 PM

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its not good

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its unplayable :/ atleast for that kind of build

cobalt ginkgo Jan 14, 2017, 10:23 PM

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well thats your opininon, the reality is that you wont get stable 60 in all possible scenarios

fringe salmon Jan 14, 2017, 10:23 PM

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id be happy with fucking 40-50 but no 20-30 on LOW

cobalt ginkgo Jan 14, 2017, 10:24 PM

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low/ultra makes little to no difference to me

fringe salmon Jan 14, 2017, 10:24 PM

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https://puu.sh/tmsJJ/baf08a6f9c.png

cobalt ginkgo Jan 14, 2017, 10:24 PM

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I have quite old PC and I get 20-30 too, and its AMD

fringe salmon Jan 14, 2017, 10:24 PM

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game on ssd and everything

cobalt ginkgo Jan 14, 2017, 10:26 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNbpeWyKlUo

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try that but hes got Nvidia might help though

fringe salmon Jan 14, 2017, 10:28 PM

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well amd has different options and i dont know what these do

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https://puu.sh/tmsYp/33e0ee63e2.png

cobalt ginkgo Jan 14, 2017, 10:33 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/arma/comments/2goq2z/the_way_i_fixed_my_arma_3_performance_problems/

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can try that one also... but you need to mess with BIOS

fringe salmon Jan 14, 2017, 11:01 PM

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my bios does not have that option, i can only disable 2 cores at a time, core 3-4 , 5-6, 7-8

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Performance problems cannot be fixed.

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If it is the mission at fault.

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Or the servers hardware at fault.

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@fringe salmon

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If this is singleplayer something is wrong

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i unparked my cpu

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wonder if that does something

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so right now a server with 50 people gets me 30 fps with around 30 guys around me

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but i feel like the game loaded up faster

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out in the field with a squad of 12 i get 35fps on autodetect settings

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if i put settings a bit lower i get around 45 , so i think unparking cpus def. helped here

fallow remnant Jan 15, 2017, 1:44 AM

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@fringe salmon aren't you the person with an FX CPU

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i gave you the answer last time

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switch to intel

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or wait for Ryzen

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You don't even need to play with things on low

fringe salmon Jan 15, 2017, 1:45 AM

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i also said i wont update for another year

fallow remnant Jan 15, 2017, 1:45 AM

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Yes

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but

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then there's not much that can be done

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Set Object view distance to 2000m or less

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Set overall to 8000m

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Set object quality to high

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Set everything else to max

fringe salmon Jan 15, 2017, 1:46 AM

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well if someone is asking for help with settings you dont go and just say "amd is shit buy intel be good"

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thats not helpful at all

fallow remnant Jan 15, 2017, 1:46 AM

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But that's the source of your problems

fringe salmon Jan 15, 2017, 1:46 AM

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its still not helpful

fallow remnant Jan 15, 2017, 1:47 AM

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I can't help that, the situation is such.

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You asked for someone with good PC knowledge etc

fringe salmon Jan 15, 2017, 1:47 AM

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i dont know if its the situation or your general hate for amd

fallow remnant Jan 15, 2017, 1:47 AM

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WTF

tawdry hawk Jan 15, 2017, 1:47 AM

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hi guy i hosting a server and want to see if ppl can log onto it

fallow remnant Jan 15, 2017, 1:47 AM

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Where did that come from?

tawdry hawk Jan 15, 2017, 1:47 AM

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server name is deadman_art

fallow remnant Jan 15, 2017, 1:48 AM

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I mean
I'm even saying consider AMD's Ryzen

fringe salmon Jan 15, 2017, 1:48 AM

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attitude gets attitude back is all im saying

fallow remnant Jan 15, 2017, 1:48 AM

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I don't understand you at all.

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There's no attitude here.

tawdry hawk Jan 15, 2017, 1:48 AM

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it not a hate for amd it just the game dont play well with amd

fallow remnant Jan 15, 2017, 1:48 AM

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^

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I've even given you suggested solutions.

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You asked for help regarding hardware, that's all I can say about hardware.

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I've listed some settings that can help you, scroll up

fringe salmon Jan 15, 2017, 1:49 AM

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there is millions of people playing with amd , you dont just say to everyone go buy intel because you are a intel fanboy, i asked for help with settings not with hardware

fallow remnant Jan 15, 2017, 1:49 AM

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Max everything else out.

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Lol

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k

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That's as much time as i'm going to spend on this then.

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Good luck.

fringe salmon Jan 15, 2017, 1:49 AM

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k thx bye 😉

tawdry hawk Jan 15, 2017, 1:50 AM

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any oen have any good links on server and how to host them

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i have a server running i want to see if someone could log into it

fringe salmon Jan 15, 2017, 1:51 AM

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might wanna give the server admin channel a try

tawdry hawk Jan 15, 2017, 1:51 AM

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i can log in but want to see if some one from out side my net work can

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o ok thanks mate

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kinder new

balmy cargo Jan 15, 2017, 6:38 AM

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AMD is FAR better on a budget. I personally will ALWAYS go with Intel but that is just a personal preference because I have had good experience with it in the past

fallow remnant Jan 15, 2017, 9:34 AM

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Depends on what you do with it. But #hardware_vs_arma

fringe salmon Jan 15, 2017, 12:51 PM

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oh well, i unpared my cpus and i tweaked a bit in my windows and i can get actually a kinda ok looking playable vrsion

cobalt ginkgo Jan 15, 2017, 6:25 PM

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keep in mind that core parking wont work well for quadcore amd... tried it myself and its a no go

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funny that it makes no difference at all 2 or 4 cores it runs like crap in MP

silk canyon Jan 15, 2017, 7:14 PM

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anyone know a fix for the FPS drops to 5-9fps/ugly graphic and crashes after it?

16:19:58 DX11 error : CreateTexture failed : E_OUTOFMEMORY
16:19:58 DX11 error : CreateTexture failed : E_OUTOFMEMORY
16:19:59 DX11 error : CreateTexture failed : E_OUTOFMEMORY
16:19:59 DX11 error : CreateTexture failed : E_OUTOFMEMORY
16:19:59 DX11 error : CreateTexture failed : E_OUTOFMEMORY
16:19:59 DX11 error : CreateTexture failed : E_OUTOFMEMORY
16:19:59 DX11 error : CreateTexture failed : E_OUTOFMEMORY
16:19:59 DX11 error : CreateTexture failed : E_OUTOFMEMORY
16:19:59 DX11 error : CreateTexture failed : E_OUTOFMEMORY
16:19:59 CreateTexture failed : w = 2048, h = 2048, format = BC3_UNORM, err = E_OUTOFMEMORY.
16:19:59 DX11 error : CreateTexture failed : E_OUTOFMEMORY
16:19:59 Virtual memory total 4095 MiB (4294836224 B)
16:19:59 Virtual memory free 281 MiB (295378944 B)
16:19:59 Physical memory free 6823 MiB (7154970624 B)
16:19:59 Page file free 19707 MiB (20665102336 B)
16:19:59 Process working set 3301 MiB (3462172672 B)
16:19:59 Process page file used 3070 MiB (3219156992 B)
16:19:59 Longest free VM region: 4194304 B
16:19:59 VM busy 4017020928 B (reserved 159830016 B, committed 3857190912 B, mapped 548855808 B), free 277815296 B
16:19:59 Small mapped regions: 21, size 90112 B
16:19:59 VID: dedicated: 2086338560, shared 3994036224, system: 0, max: 1771765760, used: 1589350400
ErrorMessage: DX11 error : CreateTexture failed : E_OUTOFMEMORY```
out of the .rpt file

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nvidia gtx770 used

uncut trellis Jan 15, 2017, 7:25 PM

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Have you tried lowering your graphics settings? Seems that you are running out of memory soo are you running some extremly heavy mod set or something? Lots of higres textures and stuff like that?

silk canyon Jan 15, 2017, 7:42 PM

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i use the same graphic settings since more than 1 year. happend first time after last patch.

cobalt ginkgo Jan 15, 2017, 8:32 PM

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thats a memory leak wait for BI to fix

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or report with crashlogs at feedback.bistudio.com

silk canyon Jan 15, 2017, 10:30 PM

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allright, thanks so far @cobalt ginkgo @uncut trellis

fallow remnant Jan 15, 2017, 11:46 PM

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We've been dealing with low client FPS a lot, people get higher FPS in single player than MP...like, 40+ fps in SP vs 15 fps in MP

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Especially Tanoa

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And the server's running at 30+ fps (usually 40+)

swift quest Jan 16, 2017, 1:40 AM

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anyone having issues with battleeye not updating today

zealous otter Jan 16, 2017, 2:01 AM

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I have not developed stuff for Arma 3 in over a year, anyway I started up my project again, however every time I launch a dedicated server my Arma crashes with the error of saving profile data, even my Steam crashes. Any ideas?

wooden idol Jan 16, 2017, 5:50 AM

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@zealous otter ensure your files are proper with an app_update <id> validate (steamcmd)

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also, looks like i should be playing singleplayer on the dev branch... hmmm 😃 http://i.imgur.com/b6m2eks.png

brittle pumice Jan 16, 2017, 7:30 AM

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i might have found a possible solution for the 3fps bug or the potato graphics bug

wise barn Jan 16, 2017, 7:30 AM

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Ok?

brittle pumice Jan 16, 2017, 7:31 AM

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try using the compatible mode and set it to windows vista service pack 2

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several members of my group members says it fixed it

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but needs to be tried out

brittle pumice Jan 16, 2017, 7:51 AM

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i am skeptical if it works out

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but since other solutions didnt work out hope this works

neat mica Jan 16, 2017, 9:54 AM

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@brittle pumice Seems like BI are getting closer to tracking down the problem, Dwarden says it appears to have something to do with badly written scripts in mods

tiny imp Jan 16, 2017, 11:04 AM

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yep but that's just one thing i know about while there might be other similar triggers

neat mica Jan 16, 2017, 11:23 AM

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having a trigger should at least help to find the root cause

dapper elk Jan 16, 2017, 2:16 PM

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Nobody knows a solution - i stopped playing A3 months ago due to that memory crash

stable thunder Jan 16, 2017, 5:37 PM

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So how do i fix that bug with the randomly not working scope zoom?

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....

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Are you guys sure BI is a game studio and not just an elaborate trolling group?

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Where is the kickstarter with the goal to buy BI and fire everyone?

faint dawn Jan 16, 2017, 5:40 PM

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👉 🚪 👈

wooden idol Jan 16, 2017, 7:46 PM

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yo @fringe salmon ☝ there's the door, i found it

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there ya go

meager crow Jan 16, 2017, 11:01 PM

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yo does anyone know a solution to keep me from getting kicked from everyone online server? Even when i dont have any mods installed and when i do its for the server

fringe salmon Jan 17, 2017, 3:25 AM

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@fringe salmon Are you a programmer? Do you know how to program? Any kind of language?
C++
Python
C
Objective C? etc?

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If not you have no RIGHT to judge BI on their game. They work with what they have.

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As Dwarden said a complete re-write is out of question.

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Sure it's not multi-threaded etc. But the engine is partially, multi-threaded.

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Not all of it, but some.

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@tiny imp I stumbled on one of those "badly written script problems myself"

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I flooded the RAM of the game using too bigger arrays

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accidently.

tiny imp Jan 17, 2017, 3:34 AM

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check #perf_prof_branch another one of the leaks shall be dead now

earnest heart Jan 17, 2017, 6:12 AM

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As Dwarden said a complete re-write is out of question. Not least because of how much community content would presumably be rendered incompatible by a complete rewrite...

wise barn Jan 17, 2017, 6:54 AM

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@AgentFluffy99#5883
Check your RPT file for errors.

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Go to

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C:\Users\YOUR_USERNAME\AppData\Local\Arma 3

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and open the last file with an editor.

tawny vapor Jan 18, 2017, 3:29 AM

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Hey my doods

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So, I have an SSD drive with the Arma dir and a couple of mods on it, but the majority of my mods are on another harddrive, and I'd like to have the launcher default to keeping the workshop mods on the HDD and not the SSD, but they are going to the SSD

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Can't do much with only 5GB of space on an SSD

wooden idol Jan 18, 2017, 3:37 AM

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are your mods being stored in a steam workshop folder, or in the arma folder?

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if they are being stored in a steam workshop folder, symlink it out to the other drive

tawny vapor Jan 18, 2017, 3:57 AM

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It's as if half of them are on the HDD and some are on the SSD

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@wooden idol You know the hidden !Workshop folder? There's one of those on each directory, Arma's and then the folder on the second drive, and some are in arma's and some are in teh other one

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Very strange.

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In the Launcher, the "Legacy Steam Workshop mods location" is on the second drive.

tawny vapor Jan 18, 2017, 5:33 AM

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So, figured it out, just need to reselect the folder I want in the move option again, then it moves all mods back there. Not the simplest, but oh well.

wooden idol Jan 18, 2017, 6:33 AM

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maybe theres a command line switch for the launcher that will do that for you

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so you could make a shortcut on your desktop to open it but run that automatically

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though i guess you'd hope you don't have to do that ever again

fringe salmon Jan 18, 2017, 8:20 AM

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Hello, "Legacy Steam Workshop mods location" works only on Legacy mods.

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All other mods have directory junctions inside !Workshop folder to an actual location where Steam downloads them. Steam always store the mods on the same drive as the game. Due to a bug on Windows 10 that breaks junctions between two disk drives (or partitions), Launcher primarily uses junctions in the !Workshop folder in Arma 3 (but if I'm not mistaken it maintains the junctions in the "Legacy Steam Workshop mods location" to maintains compatibility with the old behavior - if possible).

wooden idol Jan 18, 2017, 2:38 PM

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so just create a symlink and be done

fringe salmon Jan 18, 2017, 6:35 PM

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Is there any confirmed way to fix the infamous 3fps/5fps bug?

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 7:10 PM

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@tiny imp nobody gives a fuck about perf branch, stop rolling out bugged patches and get some actual quality control.

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you're breaking the game for everyone all the fucking time, this is utterly unacceptable

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I blame the governments. Sellings this kind of quality should put people in jail.

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Our society lost any sense for qualty i'm afraid.

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The game isn't fine, the game had and still has massive issues people are just accepting/working around in lack of alternatives. But now BI is increasingly breaking peoples gameplay with bugs that can only be a result of lack of testing, and breaking compatability with established content.

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You kidding? Takes less than 5 minutes after a patch to spot at least one obvious bug.

quaint jewel Jan 18, 2017, 7:19 PM

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How should you detect something in quality control that only happens to few players after they released the update to "millions" ? No one I ever played with has experienced the 3fps bug more than once

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 7:20 PM

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@quaint jewel I have 3 friends. We didn't play arma for a few weeks, just picked it up again and we all 3 encountered the bug withhin minutes.

quaint jewel Jan 18, 2017, 7:20 PM

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And thats not how game developement works... Quality control can't find all the issues millions of players might have or cause by hardware problems or by their way to use/missuse the game

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Weekly coop 10-40 players 40GB of Mods

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 7:20 PM

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Thats just bullshit. On every single ArmA patch in the last 1+ year i spotted a bug in less than 5 minutes. That just doesn't happen on other games ;^3

quaint jewel Jan 18, 2017, 7:21 PM

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several Hours every week/session... Then do it.. call BS.. But thats just how it is

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We sometimes have issues of fps dropping to about 15 after a few hours but we know thats caused by missbehaving Mods we are using

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 7:25 PM

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I got 3 guys laughing at me in TS because i just told them that "only few people" have problems ;^3

desert isle Jan 18, 2017, 7:25 PM

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6 hours straight 2 weeks ago, no 3 FPS bug

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 7:26 PM

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@desert isle oh noes! we're being targeted by an AT missile! quick -FM- deploy the smoke screen!

desert isle Jan 18, 2017, 7:26 PM

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Custom missions on Icebreakrs terrains

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When I get to my PC I can give you the mod list

quaint jewel Jan 18, 2017, 7:28 PM

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What kind of Arma are you playing? Mods Missions playercount?

desert isle Jan 18, 2017, 7:29 PM

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As Dwarden mentioned, some of it is down to poorly written scripts.

quaint jewel Jan 18, 2017, 7:29 PM

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I'm Playing Milsim with all custom non-vanilla loadouts a ton on Modded Maps with tons of scripts of all the Mods we have and.. no issue whatsoever..

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 7:29 PM

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Why you guys so focused on that one bug? There is plenty to choose from.

quaint jewel Jan 18, 2017, 7:30 PM

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How could playing heavilly Modded Arma not cause it but Vanilla do...
I only got the 3fps bug once.. In Vanilla King of the Hill about a year ago

tiny imp Jan 18, 2017, 7:31 PM

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@stable thunder yet, nobody provided reliable reproduction steps for the 3FPS bug ...

faint dawn Jan 18, 2017, 7:31 PM

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🍿

tiny imp Jan 18, 2017, 7:31 PM

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not in the BIForum not in the Feedback Tracker not here not on Reddit ... w/e

faint dawn Jan 18, 2017, 7:32 PM

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Today? It is.

tiny imp Jan 18, 2017, 7:32 PM

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@fringe salmon i didn't said anything like that ... but it's not simple to fix something you can't re-create internally in first place

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 7:32 PM

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@tiny imp don't be so picky. Just launch ArmA, i gurantee you'll encounter at least one bug. Just fix that one instead.

vocal lantern Jan 18, 2017, 7:33 PM

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👀

quaint jewel Jan 18, 2017, 7:33 PM

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Arma is not like other AAA titles that are done and get sealed before release and for which about 30% of developement time is spent on QA.. Arma is constantly evolving constantly getting changes...

tiny imp Jan 18, 2017, 7:33 PM

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for example, i've had no 3fps ever ... on my box ... while i had gazillion other issues including those most of you never knew they even existed 😉

vocal lantern Jan 18, 2017, 7:33 PM

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nor have i, or about 100 other people i can account for..

faint dawn Jan 18, 2017, 7:34 PM

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Same goes for my Mods, they never had that Problem.

quaint jewel Jan 18, 2017, 7:34 PM

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I rarely encounter anything that i would call a "bug".. There are some translations issues or "bugs" caused by bad usermade scripts.. But else... Sure there are bugs but i only encounter them rarely

tiny imp Jan 18, 2017, 7:34 PM

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@stable thunder same , i never said there are no bugs or will be no bugs ... the more ongoing improvement, increased complexity and older game engine is the higher chance of something going wrong

faint dawn Jan 18, 2017, 7:34 PM

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Then its time to burry RV and make space to Enfu 😉

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 7:35 PM

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@tiny imp Just tell me you internally started over writing a completely new engine.

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because there is no chance to salvage this

tiny imp Jan 18, 2017, 7:35 PM

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and what you think Enfusion project is for ? but that's to be seen in years time

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new engine aren't appearing each summer under trees ...

desert isle Jan 18, 2017, 7:35 PM

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@fringe salmon Abramia, ACE3, CBA_A3, All the CUP mods, FAP_Units, Duala, Lingor, Panthera, StHUD

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 7:35 PM

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Have you tried looking under trees?

tiny imp Jan 18, 2017, 7:36 PM

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sry @stable thunder but i ninjaed you 😃

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we squashing bugs as we can,when we can, if they found ... can't fix everything at once either ...

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 7:37 PM

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Oh don't apologize to me.

tiny imp Jan 18, 2017, 7:37 PM

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just for fun, try count all fixes in all patches since public Alpha (it's enough you count those in published changelog)

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 7:37 PM

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Would you count drops of water in a bucket if i told you i just removed a bucket from an ocean?

tiny imp Jan 18, 2017, 7:38 PM

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so you spilling into ocean complaining about the bucket content ?

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not gunna change much either

vocal lantern Jan 18, 2017, 7:38 PM

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😄

tiny imp Jan 18, 2017, 7:39 PM

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or it's like the throwing stone into sea and complaining the waves aren't visible due to existing waves ...

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@fringe salmon no doubt about that, that's why we/i searching for it...

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as i explained before i didn't expect the fix for detach in #perf_prof_branch to be the 'silver bullet'...
it wasn't the bug we all seeking for yet again it stabilized lot of servers/users

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but it gave another possible types of problems to be searched ... maybe there is another command with similar issue

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the more often it was called the more it overloaded the netcode leading to performance issues and memory leak

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thus in the end crash

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leak is over time, it don't care about how often, just more often means sooner it reach the treshold of can't allocate more and out of memory happens, crash follows

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it's like rupture in dam full of water, from moment it happens it only gets worse with time

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the key is find what cause the rupture (often even finding the moment when the rupture appear isn't enough)

desert isle Jan 18, 2017, 7:45 PM

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I seem to recall not too long ago someone was poking fun at my old school ways of killing all non-essential programs/processes, maximising free memory.....

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 7:45 PM

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If rethoric makes you feel better, okay. I got 20+ people in my steam friend list who played arma a lot and everyone stopped due to frustration about the absolutely insane amount of game breaking bugs and incompatabilities to popular content.

quaint jewel Jan 18, 2017, 7:46 PM

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And I have half a dozen of Arma groups with 10-50 members that never experienced these game breaking bugs or incompatabilities. If this information makes you happier

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 7:47 PM

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@quaint jewel pardon me, you're lying.

tiny imp Jan 18, 2017, 7:47 PM

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wish i could list you all games i'm frustrated with ... so many bugs everywhere ;)

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 7:47 PM

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I'm a sucker for early access alpha rubbish, trust me ArmA is high up on a short list.

vocal lantern Jan 18, 2017, 7:47 PM

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moves jcd one coloum to the right..

tiny imp Jan 18, 2017, 7:47 PM

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there is difference in the approach, either you trying to get bugs fixed and doing something about it ... or not ...

quaint jewel Jan 18, 2017, 7:48 PM

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Who tells me you are not lying? ^^

desert isle Jan 18, 2017, 7:51 PM

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I would honestly like to see a modlist and game mode comparison of those who have these issues.

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Playing Singleplayer and or Campaign?

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I dont want to sound too harsh with regards to Exile, but I hear nothing but problems

fallow remnant Jan 18, 2017, 7:54 PM

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For what it's worth we've not had the 3FPS bug, but performance does deteriorate over time. Some people even report ~30 fps on the server (and our server is overkill) but ~60 fps in SP

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We play vanilla

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Custom missions

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Some mods, actually, but server side/optional client side

desert isle Jan 18, 2017, 7:55 PM

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and by hearing, I mean I see lots of complaints from people who join the A3 Discord solely to complain of problems with Exile.

fallow remnant Jan 18, 2017, 7:55 PM

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F3, ASR_AI, ST UI, Tao folding map, some others. Only F3 Map markers run continuously afaik.

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(apart from ASR and ST UI)

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Most of our issues end up on tanoa

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Everyone's FPS ends up around 10

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irrespective of system config

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And server FPS is usually +40

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Whether it is coincidental that we start losing FPS because the game's been running for ~2 hours, or it's tanoa specific, don't know

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Some of us suspect that caching data between missions is partly responsible

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(it also seems to cause the now rare "helicopter noise" bug)

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 7:58 PM

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@tiny imp Steps to reproduce 3fps bug: 1. join 1944 koth server 2. wait 5 minutes. 100% success rate for 4 different players so far.

fallow remnant Jan 18, 2017, 7:59 PM

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But yeah, we've had times when everyone had to restart Arma and rejoin the session, because the game was unplayable for a lot of people

tiny imp Jan 18, 2017, 8:00 PM

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@stable thunder what you think we tried internally ... we can download community missions / mods too and join public servers ...

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anyway if you doing repros/tests now, do it on latest #perf_prof_branch or #dev_rc_branch (due the fact of way more bugs fixed in those than in main branch)

quaint jewel Jan 18, 2017, 8:02 PM

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Most People i heard of experiencing the 3fps bug did so while playing KoTH or Exile... So... It sounds like on of these cases where Quality testing can't account for people "missusing" the engine..
It sounds more like it is a Problem with The scripts of these game types...

@fallow remnant
Yeah my group also experiences these issues.. Sometimes after a few hours of playing we all did a collective game restart before continuing because everyone got down to 10fps.. But these issues stopped appearing about 2 months ago

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I am not trolling.. I don't know what they are doing.. But 90% of the 3fps bug seem to happen on such game modes.. Only my observation nothing else

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exactly

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 8:06 PM

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@quaint jewel ArmA lives of user created content. BI vanilla content is not worth mentioning for actual multiplayer gameplay. BI knows this and has kinda tried to accommodate this. You can't just say mods and scripts are "missusage" of the game when its what 99% of the people play.

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also scripts shouldn't be able to crash the game, the engine should be robust enough to handle that.

jaunty badger Jan 18, 2017, 8:08 PM

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scripts shouldn't be able to crash the game

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Dunno what this convo is about, but I thought it was funny to reply.

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(stop pinging me)

quaint jewel Jan 18, 2017, 8:09 PM

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I am not blaming user created content in general.. I'm just observing that most people have these issues on these gametypes and that they are heavilly scripted and that it's known that scripts can cause errors

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 8:09 PM

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sigh. maybe that was a slight overstatement, but a more robust error handling IS TO BE DESIRED

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yeah scripts can cause errors ... living can cause death ... tell me something new

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I still have to jump out of a tank if i'm a driver/gunner so the commander can deploy smoke. I still accidently place and blow up satchel charges instead of opening doors because the option glitches away lightning fast. I can't zoom my rifle scope if i turn my char in the wrong direction. Tanks still flip randomly ... just played 2 hours with 4 people and all of us restarted the game several times or had it crash so we had to re-launch and re-join the server and ALWAYS, really ALWAYS got 3fps bug withhin minutes.

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yawns

jaunty badger Jan 18, 2017, 8:14 PM

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The commander has to board the vehicle first

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Fix never

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 8:15 PM

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well

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we figured that out, but rumors has it "combat field repairs" exist.

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Also, very much occasionally, your game crash and after walking back to your tank under fire fo 30 minutes, vehicle boarding sequences loose their appeal.

jaunty badger Jan 18, 2017, 8:15 PM

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tanks flip randomly

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           /@_@_@_@_@_\
           \""""""""""/
(╯°□°）╯︵     \""/=====|

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 8:16 PM

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commy2 stronk

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tank weak

jaunty badger Jan 18, 2017, 8:16 PM

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There

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Family friendly tank dick.

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yw

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Tanks, missiles and rifles are basically phallic symbols.

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Just like rank insignia.

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 8:17 PM

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I find the casual nature of this discussion about male genital mutilation unsetteling.

jaunty badger Jan 18, 2017, 8:18 PM

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The more dicks you have on your uniform,

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the more important you are

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And if you're really important

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you get thicker dicks.

random quail Jan 18, 2017, 8:19 PM

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veinier, angrier

jaunty badger Jan 18, 2017, 8:19 PM

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I knew the engineer would understand me.

random quail Jan 18, 2017, 8:21 PM

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it's what i'm here for

jaunty badger Jan 18, 2017, 8:21 PM

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I'm here for the ____.

fallow remnant Jan 18, 2017, 8:26 PM

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The commander has to board the vehicle first

wow did not know this. Did know that repair trucks won't repair if the target vic has more than 1 player in it.

jaunty badger Jan 18, 2017, 8:31 PM

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The commander doesn't really have to enter the vehicle first

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It's more like

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Of all the units inside the tank

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The one that entered first has to be the commander

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The driver can enter first, but he then has to leave and reeneter while the commander is still in there

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The commander has to be the unit that is inside the vehicle the longest without interruptions.

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Or you install ACE and just press key 9

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Then it works anyways, lmao

fallow remnant Jan 18, 2017, 8:39 PM

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gg

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You'd think they'd make it such that the commander always owns the vehicle

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but no

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or at least, not require ownership to deploy smoke

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In our missions units are usually pre-mounted, and commanders are initialised first, so we don't run into this

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Although commanders do tend to dismount so...

jaunty badger Jan 18, 2017, 8:41 PM

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The driver always owns the vehicle

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well except from the turrets

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the turret guy owns the turrets

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It's a bug, fix never.

fallow remnant Jan 18, 2017, 8:42 PM

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Ah

jaunty badger Jan 18, 2017, 8:42 PM

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It's not essential for AL, so it won't get fixed. /s

fallow remnant Jan 18, 2017, 8:42 PM

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Probably should spam dwarden with the associated ticket then 😄

stable thunder Jan 18, 2017, 8:52 PM

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@jaunty badger AL?

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oh.

quaint jewel Jan 18, 2017, 11:11 PM

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Already fixed...

Okey... I started the Arma 3 Launcher once to try to join a Server because i have other Problems i may post in #server_admins later..
Now everytime i try to start Arma with my own Launcher the A3 Launcher just opens and sits there.. It's just ignoring the -noLauncher parameter.
No I've tried to add -noLauncher to the Steam command line.. And now It's starting Arma.. Arma exits and starts the A3 Launcher instead.. the A3 Launcher sees the -noLauncher parameter and starts Arma and exits itself.. Then Arma exits itself and starts the Launcher... Then the Launcher starts Arma and exits itself and endless loop of doom

Killed it in taskmanager and tried it again with my Launcher... Steam tells me Arma 3 tries to start with following parameters -skipIntro -noSplash -world=empty -mod=. I click OK arma3launcher.exe starts and exits again.. arma3.exe starts and exits again.. And Steam tells me again that Arma 3 tries to start with the same parameters
No RPT's created
It's quite entertaining though... All my friends are getting the Popup that i am playing Arma 3 about every 10 seconds... Thats quite good Advertising I'd say.
Arma was Launching just fine using my Launcher or Steam before.. I just started the arma3launcher.exe in the Game directory manually and since then that is happening
Restarting Steam fixed it now.... This was the weirdest bug ever.. I will never use the Arma 3 Launcher again I swear.

lime thunder Jan 18, 2017, 11:25 PM

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Only time I ever see the launcher is when I forgot to load Steam before trying to run A3. 😃

quaint jewel Jan 18, 2017, 11:26 PM

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Now to my next Issue... I am running a local vanilla Arma server on my PC and try to join with my Laptop over LAN... I can see the network packets from my Laptop arriving in Wireshark and Netlimiter... But the local Arma server is not responding to them...
I needed to debug a MP bug in my Mod 2 hours ago.. And till now i didn't even get my Laptop to connect onto my Server.
If my Laptop is the Host my PC can connect fine... But if my PC is the host it doesn't respond to network packets on port 2302. Both are running the same build of Arma.. 1.66.139586 1.66 stable. Also tried profv3 no difference

fallow remnant Jan 18, 2017, 11:26 PM

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Well, i use the launcher often enough, it's usually fine
AndI use swifty too, which bypasses the launcher, so that works fine too

jaunty badger Jan 18, 2017, 11:32 PM

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-noLauncher

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is kaputt and has always been

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Just delete the arma3launcher.exe

quaint jewel Jan 18, 2017, 11:33 PM

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I tried.. Then steam was complaining about not being able to find the application it was trying to start

jaunty badger Jan 18, 2017, 11:33 PM

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Click again. That message is a million times faster than the launcher snoozefest opening

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Should only happen once per PC start anyway.

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On the first try.

lime thunder Jan 19, 2017, 2:36 AM

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Firewall on the PC? What OS?

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@quaint jewel ^

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 6:26 AM

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Just as expected nobody responding @fringe salmon huh

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the arma 3 PR team?

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Is that a satirical group or something

tiny imp Jan 19, 2017, 6:33 AM

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you missed the secret moar FPS DLC for arma club members 😉

slow abyss Jan 19, 2017, 6:34 AM

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wasn't that included in the supporter edition? Glad I got it back then

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... no mods..

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no wait there is; Project Argo

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😃

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Isn't that a widely known bug by now? I haven't heard anyone denying it exists?

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even in vanilla

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 6:40 AM

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the majority of players use community created content, BI better get used to it.

slow abyss Jan 19, 2017, 6:41 AM

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oh, haven't seen anything like that stated by bi

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 6:41 AM

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why do you listen to people like that, ignore lists have been invented

slow abyss Jan 19, 2017, 6:41 AM

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you mean players? well, yeah there's idiots among us

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 6:45 AM

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Hmmm

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5 minutes of playing

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3FPS bug

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weird.

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1944 koth codefourgaming

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i guess koth is "heavily scripted content" isn't it

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yes of course.

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note: there is 2 (two) players on the server

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can't tell yet

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butt i just asked the other guy on the server

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and he gets it too

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it happens very reliable on these 1944 koth servers for me and my friends. like, 100% reliable after 5-15 minutes.

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the guy on the server says it only happens in tanks

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and while i can't confirm that, i can tell you it so far only happened to me if i was inside a tank

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just subscribe to the IFA 3 lite mod on steam

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then filter with "1944" in the host and game mode king of the hill

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there is only 2 servers

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both produce the bug

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@fringe salmon i played with 3 buddies on that server yesterday and we all three got the bug multiple times in the period of 1-2 hours and then quit.

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I suspect tho it really has to do with tanks since we TRIED to use a tank as a team

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luckily for you there is a tank standing around, mysteriously nobody wants to use it.

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you need money/levels on koth to buy a tank, but if you need help with that just poke me.

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i'll now play while avoiding vehicles to cross check if that is the cause

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:15 AM

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Well

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But you are correct

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Sa-Matra still hasn't figured out team balance yet

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But basic math is complicated.

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2-4=-2

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negative players? sounds complicated

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but then lots of people have a negative attitude

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man

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shits complicated

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:18 AM

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ArmA 3 @stable thunder Was NEVER designed to run KoTH or Altis Life. Too many people too much traffic, too much stress on a very aged script engine.

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:21 AM

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i have 1000hr+ on koth without 3fps bug. checkmate.

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:21 AM

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@stable thunder Ever actually read ArmA 3's source code from the unpacked the data? from the ArmA 3 [Workdrive] ?

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The game itself, is made using the same scripting engine

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All the GUI, all the functions, all the character calls, all the scenes, cut-scenes all of it.

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Runs through? You guessed it SQF

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And?

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SQF, is Single-threaded

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:22 AM

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I know that. Whats your point? You want me to send a condolence card to BI or what?

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mmhm nice game just crashed.

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:23 AM

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KoTH arma 3 was never meant to run on that many concurrent players.

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As dslyecxi said, BI never anticipated that much, work the engine had to do.

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:24 AM

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http://www.gamegpu.com/images/stories/Test_GPU/Action/ARMA_III/test/a3_2560_intel.jpg

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http://gamegpu.com/images/stories/Test_GPU/Action/WATCH_DOGS_2/new/w3_intel.png

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http://gamegpu.com/images/stories/Test_GPU/Action/WATCH_DOGS_2/new/w3_amd.png

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http://gamegpu.com/images/stories/Test_GPU/Action/WATCH_DOGS_2/new/w3_proz.png

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http://www.gamegpu.com/images/stories/Test_GPU/Action/ARMA_III/test/a3_proz_u.jpg

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:24 AM

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That I've noticed appears to be related to the video-card.

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It can be stopped temporarily using the arma 3 cheat

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Shift + Numpad minus

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and typing "FLUSH"

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When I saw this bug occur it appear to initial flush the VRAM, reload all the data and reload all the LODs.

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Yeah is this happening on Tanoa?

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or Altis as well?

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Both?

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Yeah, had to have been that update with Apex, at Apex they did a lot of parallelisation for the audio-engine shaders

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:27 AM

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also happens on Staszow

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:27 AM

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And the parallax-maps

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That is probably one of the biggest issues

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Parallax-mapping is very stressful on RAM

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:28 AM

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You know, one would think that introducing game-breaking bugs you fail to track down and fix would lead to reverting to a previous, non-bugged version.

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Especially with that mandatory update policy of steam

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:28 AM

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https://arma3.com/news/arma-3-eden-update

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:28 AM

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Did i mention that forced updates through steam are literally mentally retarded?

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:29 AM

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@fringe salmon Firstly, I'd love to hear who the "usual PR guys" / "PR lapdogs" are.

Secondly, @stable thunder , you may be on to something with tanks, my group doesnt use them. I am bothered with the overall tack people take with "bugs" in general. I wonder thing like "How many people who complain about the 3 FPS bug run the latest perf/prof builds?" "How many server operators use the latest sever side builds?"

Quicksilver, I'm not sure if you were referring to me in the jab about Vanilla content/ official missions, but if you've ever had to troubleshoot anything in real life, you would know that you should start from the very beginning (or Physical layer depending on your perspective).Sadly, it seems that very few people who complain have actually tried to do that. Generally, what I see is people complaining, not giving any sort of meaningful feedback nor participating (not that they are required to) in any improvement processes.

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:29 AM

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@desert isle Definitely agreed.

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:29 AM

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@desert isle you might be shocked to hear that the vast majority of the arma community doesn't know what the perf/prof builds are and also don't give a shit.

tiny imp Jan 19, 2017, 7:30 AM

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there is reason it would really help to have some-what reliable repro instead of going on wild random guess of 'it happens sometimes to some, never to other and quite often to another group'

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:30 AM

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All the communities I suggested to run some server-dev builds on a small server

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they said NO!

slow abyss Jan 19, 2017, 7:30 AM

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Has anyone tried replicating the bug without soudn?

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:30 AM

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I said, but how are they supposed to find bugs 😦

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They need people running those perf-builds.'

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:30 AM

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@stable thunder and that is part of the problem

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:31 AM

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@desert isle no its not, the version people are automatically forced to download thru steam should work, they shouldn't have to go to discord where they're told to instal perf build.

tiny imp Jan 19, 2017, 7:31 AM

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overmodded, it would extremely help to get it on default game

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:31 AM

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yes.

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:31 AM

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overmodded? its one single mod

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:31 AM

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I saw it happen.

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On me.

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On modded.

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and un.

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:31 AM

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^

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:31 AM

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It only seemed to happen when I did this

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-maxVRAM = 4092

tiny imp Jan 19, 2017, 7:32 AM

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@stable thunder the basic approach is to get it on as least as possible content and simplified complexity of anything to maximum

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:32 AM

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Which the engine should just default to 2048 correct?

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2GB ? (32bit) ?

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:32 AM

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@tiny imp yeah but maybe you don't get reports about it on vanilla because nobody can be bothered with vanilla

tiny imp Jan 19, 2017, 7:32 AM

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you don't need use maxmem nor maxvram anymore ...

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:32 AM

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@stable thunder thats what brings me back to "start at the beginning" and with Vanilla content.

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The version you were forced to D/L did not come with I44

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:33 AM

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Vast majority of players doesn't play vanilla, so vanilla isn't a relevant usecase. If ArmA 3 only runs stable and bug-free in vanilla then its useless. Nobody wants to play vanilla campains over and over m8

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Thats like building an assault rifle and stating it only works in a cleanroom lab, if you get it out in the dirt you void warrenty.

tiny imp Jan 19, 2017, 7:34 AM

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i saw someone here claimed someone got it while just using 3DEN ... now that would be useful if it can be replicated

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:34 AM

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Your arguement was about what you you were forced to download, not community made stuff.

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:35 AM

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Where do I find the perf-binaries?

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to try out?

tiny imp Jan 19, 2017, 7:35 AM

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#perf_prof_branch see sticky (anyway we fixed another leak, not this one)

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:35 AM

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@fringe salmon #perf_prof_branch Pinned

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:36 AM

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@fringe salmon Oh no busy servers ain't vanilla, thats not a valid usecase. Sorry.

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:36 AM

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Try to keep your example straight

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dont muddle it up with facts

tiny imp Jan 19, 2017, 7:37 AM

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i've not seen the 3fps bug on KOTH servers i played, full EndGame and Zeus servers either ... but i may simply not be experiencing the leak for w/e reason

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:39 AM

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Youve never troubleshooted anything have you?

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"OMG, my tv wont tun on, it must be the end of the world" No, youve tripped over the plug and pulled it out of the wall.

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:42 AM

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I'm trying to reproduce 3fps on vanilla, but i'm having slight difficulties with my scope.

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:42 AM

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Would you ring up a mechanic then say my car wont work right without telling him the make/model/year/engine size/transmission type? NO. Would you then NOT give him a description of what the problem is and what is occuring when it happens? NO.

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:42 AM

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tries to find the transmission type of his ArmA installation

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a here it says, i got a 7 speed manual

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does this help?

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:43 AM

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Do you see the difference? I'm actually being productive. I'm explaining how troubleshooting works and how you can make it work for you.

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Yelling "Its broke" with no context is unhelpful.

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@fringe salmon I've never denied theres a 3 FPS bug.

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:46 AM

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@tiny imp In all honesty...

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Why.

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[] spawn { while {true} do { if (!isNull objectParent player) then { if (!isNull attachedTo player) then {detach player}; }; }; };

are people doing that anyway ^

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with no sleeps?

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Legitmate question.

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I have to re-iterate my dislike for WHILE {true} in that regard

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:48 AM

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Great Quicksilver, youve learned to identify that there is a problem between the Engine and the Transmission. Which is far more info than most who complain about the 3FPS bug.

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:49 AM

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@desert isle You've made too many unreasonable arguments in the past for me to take you seriously. Also any constructive attempt to resolve a bug has gotten me nothing but witty comments from Dwarden so ... yeah no.

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:49 AM

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The only time I saw the problem occur it was I&A's public tanoa server

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I was walking around at main base, and all of a sudden that 3 FPS bug decided to show it's ugly head.

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I do recall a large amount of things blowing up at base before.

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:52 AM

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its alright @stable thunder , youre not required to. But, in the end, I'm not experiencing the same issues as you. So, either I am extremely lucky or something that I am doing is not triggering it.

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@fringe salmon Go to the doctors and refuse to tell them what your problem is, I'm sure you'll leave there disappointed as well.

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:54 AM

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@fringe salmon You've got to remember, many of those types of server owners

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Have the brain the size of a peanut

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:54 AM

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Do you think Ford would if some guy off the street was making superchargers that were causing the engines to fail? I think not.

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:54 AM

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They can do their own profiling?

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:55 AM

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@desert isle Yes not playing the game so far has shown a 100% chance of not experiencing bugs.

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:55 AM

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^

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:55 AM

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Not directly, @fringe salmon but, I am unsure if BI is truly at fault in all of this.

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:55 AM

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now increment by 1

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increment by 1 and repeat until you find a problem.

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:56 AM

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I do recall doing something dumb myself, and can I blame bi for it.

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?

fading sequoia Jan 19, 2017, 7:56 AM

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I remember that like like over a year ago in dev branch, low fps bug was happening because of audio and it was easy to repro with big AI mission.

stable thunder Jan 19, 2017, 7:56 AM

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Your car analogy is unfitting btw. You can perfectly fine use a car drive from A to B and be happy without a supercharger. ArmA without user created content on the other hand, you will vastly reduce the amount of playtime you get out of it, and lots of players would be put off in the first place.

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:57 AM

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No, go back to your statement (Maybe BI should publish SITREP saying their engine is no longer as stable as it was, and to stop stressing the engine in modes like Exile, KotH, I&A, Tanoa, etc
If they do that I will withdraw my complaints and adapt 😉)

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:57 AM

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"publicVar" addPublicVariableEventHandler [{ [] spawn { while {true} do {/* stupid stuff*/ }; sleep 1; };

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Try that and see what happens

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:57 AM

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(Exile, KOTH, I&A)

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can you repro it in Vanilla?

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:58 AM

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I&A capped out at 1800MB one time.

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:58 AM

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with vanilla units?

fringe salmon Jan 19, 2017, 7:58 AM

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Yes

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Vanillia

desert isle Jan 19, 2017, 7:58 AM

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not you Geeky

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but why not?

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